WEBVTT 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:05.360 Hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode 00:00:05.360 --> 00:00:08.480 of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla and today I 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.080 have a full house of students who are part of 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:13.880 our Discipleship Year program at Trinity, which 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:17.800 is this gap year program for those who are interested 00:00:17.800 --> 00:00:21.059 in just taking a year to dive into scripture, 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:23.879 to learn some practical skills and what it means 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:26.359 to work and to volunteer in a church and really 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:28.980 grow in faith and community together. And so 00:00:28.980 --> 00:00:31.399 I am excited to hear from all of these students 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:34.759 about their experience so far just started in 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:37.820 september um so we're just a few months into 00:00:37.820 --> 00:00:40.740 this and have lots more to look forward to um 00:00:40.740 --> 00:00:43.020 but yeah excited to hear about your guys's journey 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:46.320 so far um so maybe we'll start with some introductions 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:48.200 and i'll start over here do you want to just 00:00:48.200 --> 00:00:50.420 introduce yourself and say what made you interested 00:00:50.420 --> 00:00:52.640 in being part of this program yeah absolutely 00:00:52.640 --> 00:01:00.140 so i'm rylan and uh it started back um in the 00:01:00.140 --> 00:01:04.180 spring actually i I'm from a different background, 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:08.019 a different church background. And for Ash Wednesday, 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.739 my dad and I visited this church and really just 00:01:12.739 --> 00:01:17.280 loved the service. And like, I just really experienced 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:20.640 the presence of God here. And meeting Pastor 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:25.239 Robbins, talking to him, basically, I'm actually 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:28.180 not in a gap year. I'm in my second year of Bible 00:01:28.180 --> 00:01:32.619 college. And part of my college, we have, these 00:01:32.619 --> 00:01:34.739 placements that we do every semester and every 00:01:34.739 --> 00:01:38.280 year. So I had asked him, I said, Hey, I'm, I'm 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:40.879 a Pentecostal, but would you have me at your 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:44.560 church to learn from you guys? And, and he was 00:01:44.560 --> 00:01:47.859 open to it. We met, we kept talking and yeah, 00:01:47.900 --> 00:01:50.299 there were a few things that worked out. And 00:01:50.299 --> 00:01:52.959 one of them, I'd say like the main one was this 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:54.900 discipleship year program that he said, like 00:01:54.900 --> 00:01:56.939 this, this seems like the perfect thing to just 00:01:56.939 --> 00:02:01.060 jump into. So I honestly did not know much of 00:02:01.060 --> 00:02:03.819 what to expect, but I'm, I'll save my thoughts 00:02:03.819 --> 00:02:05.739 for later, but I'm, I was pleasantly surprised. 00:02:05.859 --> 00:02:09.199 Okay. Okay. Awesome. Yeah. You want to go ahead? 00:02:09.300 --> 00:02:13.740 Yeah. Um, so my name is Naraya and, um, the first 00:02:13.740 --> 00:02:16.819 time actually I entered this church was sometime 00:02:16.819 --> 00:02:21.020 in February I was visiting. Uh, and then I came 00:02:21.020 --> 00:02:24.080 in because one, uh, one of the members of the 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:26.729 congregation He's known as James here, but I 00:02:26.729 --> 00:02:28.810 know him as Richard. He introduced me and he 00:02:28.810 --> 00:02:30.289 was like, hey, why don't you go check out this 00:02:30.289 --> 00:02:33.250 church? And I was like, OK, cool. And then when 00:02:33.250 --> 00:02:36.590 I did, I got to talk to Rob and a few other members 00:02:36.590 --> 00:02:40.030 as well. And I remember praying, God, I can feel 00:02:40.030 --> 00:02:42.650 your presence here. Like, I would love to be 00:02:42.650 --> 00:02:45.650 a part of a church like this. And then a few 00:02:45.650 --> 00:02:47.750 months later, Rob reached out saying, hey, there's 00:02:47.750 --> 00:02:49.629 a DIY program. Would you like to be part of it? 00:02:49.710 --> 00:02:52.430 And one of the main prayers I had was. about 00:02:52.430 --> 00:02:54.930 being part of a community and like being able 00:02:54.930 --> 00:02:57.770 to serve because ever since I surrendered my 00:02:57.770 --> 00:03:00.009 life to Christ, it felt like very alone. I didn't 00:03:00.009 --> 00:03:03.729 have anybody to like lean on. And then it just, 00:03:03.789 --> 00:03:05.889 well, it became like a domino effect and God 00:03:05.889 --> 00:03:09.229 brought me here. Okay. Okay. Very cool. Awesome. 00:03:09.430 --> 00:03:12.370 Yeah, go ahead. My name is Daniel. I've been 00:03:12.370 --> 00:03:14.969 a member of Trinity Church for about over a year 00:03:14.969 --> 00:03:20.650 now. I was taking my year off, a gap year before 00:03:20.650 --> 00:03:24.310 starting university. And I was curious to learn 00:03:24.310 --> 00:03:28.610 more about Christianity, its customs, practices, 00:03:28.849 --> 00:03:31.250 traditions, when Rob recommended me the discipleship 00:03:31.250 --> 00:03:34.349 year program. So here I am. Okay, awesome. Yeah. 00:03:35.229 --> 00:03:38.770 Hi, my name is Christabel and I've been going 00:03:38.770 --> 00:03:42.770 to Trinity for like a year or two now. So actually 00:03:42.770 --> 00:03:45.689 Rob reached out and he was like, oh, we have 00:03:45.689 --> 00:03:48.849 a DUI program. But beforehand, I already knew 00:03:48.849 --> 00:03:51.770 about it because I had some friends or I had 00:03:51.770 --> 00:03:53.810 a friend who was already in the program that 00:03:53.810 --> 00:03:56.349 year. And she was like, yeah, it's good. I should 00:03:56.349 --> 00:03:58.289 definitely go for it because I was planning on 00:03:58.289 --> 00:04:01.849 taking a gap year. And yeah, so I ended up signing 00:04:01.849 --> 00:04:03.909 up. I talked to my mom about it. I prayed a little 00:04:03.909 --> 00:04:06.539 about it. And I was like, yeah. I'm here right 00:04:06.539 --> 00:04:09.360 now. Okay, yeah, very cool. Yeah, it's a need 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:10.939 to hear all of these different entry points, 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:12.800 right? Like, you know, whether you're sort of 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:14.439 coming to Trinity for the first time and not 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:16.300 really sure, you know, you've been around a little 00:04:16.300 --> 00:04:18.959 while. It's, yeah, this sort of leaning into 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.300 faith and community together. That's really cool. 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:25.379 Yeah, so what does the Discipleship Year program 00:04:25.379 --> 00:04:28.819 look like? What do you do on a regular basis? 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.959 So I know right now you're gathering on Thursdays 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:35.649 together. So what does that look like? Yeah, 00:04:35.670 --> 00:04:39.350 it looks like, uh, well, like how Ryland likes 00:04:39.350 --> 00:04:42.029 to call it is a mini Sabbath in the mornings. 00:04:42.149 --> 00:04:44.670 So we do gather together. We do a little bit 00:04:44.670 --> 00:04:46.930 of worship, a little bit of prayer, uh, before 00:04:46.930 --> 00:04:49.550 we jump into what we want to learn for the, like, 00:04:49.610 --> 00:04:52.069 there's a topic that we cover for the week. Uh, 00:04:52.269 --> 00:04:55.610 and it, we do like the, um, uh, what's the course 00:04:55.610 --> 00:04:58.529 of practicing the Sabbath, I guess. Yeah. It's 00:04:58.529 --> 00:05:00.689 a practicing the way. And then we talk a little 00:05:00.689 --> 00:05:02.949 bit of the Sabbath and everything and how, what 00:05:02.949 --> 00:05:06.269 that looks like and what, basically kind of disciples 00:05:06.269 --> 00:05:09.610 us into understanding how to walk with Christ 00:05:09.610 --> 00:05:13.089 and be with Christ. Okay. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. 00:05:13.189 --> 00:05:14.850 So what are some of the different topics that 00:05:14.850 --> 00:05:16.410 you guys are talking about and learning about 00:05:16.410 --> 00:05:20.490 together? Yeah. So as I said, yeah, right now 00:05:20.490 --> 00:05:23.839 it's the Sabbath, which is like. One of my favorites. 00:05:23.939 --> 00:05:26.860 I love the Sabbath. I'm a strong advocate. Um, 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:28.860 not because I'm super spiritual because it's, 00:05:28.860 --> 00:05:30.839 it's literally a lifeline for me. If I don't 00:05:30.839 --> 00:05:34.899 rest, it's just, things don't go well. Um, but 00:05:34.899 --> 00:05:37.920 yeah, I mean, we, so the first one, yeah, practicing 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:39.980 the way, so there's a book and then there's also 00:05:39.980 --> 00:05:42.839 this course that we're doing. Uh, there's like 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:46.120 so much that, uh, John Mark Comer has just for 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:48.500 free. Um, if you don't buy the book or if you 00:05:48.500 --> 00:05:51.399 do. Uh, but yeah, then there, we finished with 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.899 the scripture practice. So that was just learning. 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:56.120 It's the whole thing is kind of just like learning, 00:05:56.300 --> 00:06:01.139 um, in community together, like the basics of, 00:06:01.220 --> 00:06:04.439 of what it means to follow Christ from, but from 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:06.560 so many years, like looking from the early church 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.879 to today, all these different traditions and 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:11.459 perspectives. So it's like, it feels like just 00:06:11.459 --> 00:06:15.779 like a treasure chest of wisdom and, um, like 00:06:15.779 --> 00:06:18.600 just, yeah, it's, I'd say most of what it is. 00:06:19.100 --> 00:06:21.060 we have this outline, but it's, it's really just 00:06:21.060 --> 00:06:25.319 showing up together and doing things together, 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:29.079 which sounds so simple, but it's, it is night 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.319 and day difference when you're doing it. Like 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.139 I said, like I can just say for the first year 00:06:34.139 --> 00:06:37.819 or so of me following Christ, like a lot of these 00:06:37.819 --> 00:06:41.699 things I figured out with God, with my dad walked 00:06:41.699 --> 00:06:45.240 me through a lot of them, but like, it's so different. 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.720 Sure. So different. Even the basics of the faith, 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.399 just you start to realize how deep they are and 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.560 how rich they are when you have people alongside 00:06:54.560 --> 00:07:00.079 you. Sure. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. So that's sort 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.040 of what you're doing together Thursday mornings 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:05.439 and then Thursday afternoons and sort of on Sunday 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:07.199 mornings. Like what does that look like for you 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:10.319 folks? In the afternoons, we get our ministry 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:13.060 placements. I think we rotate every four weeks, 00:07:13.139 --> 00:07:16.120 right? Sounds about right. Four different ministries, 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:21.160 tech, worship, kids ministry, and online outreach. 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:28.060 Right? Got it right. It's great. Personally, 00:07:28.180 --> 00:07:31.899 I get to experience how it feels working in all 00:07:31.899 --> 00:07:34.839 these different environments and contributing 00:07:34.839 --> 00:07:40.800 to different parts of the church. How this whole... 00:07:41.370 --> 00:07:45.750 How these ministries work in synergy to kind 00:07:45.750 --> 00:07:49.949 of to make the church work, to sort of make it 00:07:49.949 --> 00:07:54.250 alive, if you will. And I'm enjoying that. Yeah, 00:07:54.269 --> 00:07:56.490 awesome. Yeah, it's also a pretty nice way to 00:07:56.490 --> 00:07:58.970 like help the community or like put yourself 00:07:58.970 --> 00:08:03.250 in there. Because along the line, like I just 00:08:03.250 --> 00:08:06.220 finished like two. placements now and so far 00:08:06.220 --> 00:08:08.500 it's like opened my eyes to see like how actually 00:08:08.500 --> 00:08:10.839 the church comes together like the importance 00:08:10.839 --> 00:08:13.699 of each role and every person and what they're 00:08:13.699 --> 00:08:15.980 doing when they come early in the morning to 00:08:15.980 --> 00:08:18.899 church like most of these things we just I just 00:08:18.899 --> 00:08:20.459 come to church and like oh it's nice that you're 00:08:20.459 --> 00:08:23.220 doing this but now like I really understand like 00:08:23.220 --> 00:08:25.829 it takes effort and it's like kind of like a 00:08:25.829 --> 00:08:27.689 way of saying like the love for the community, 00:08:27.790 --> 00:08:29.970 love for church, love for Jesus. Like we're ready 00:08:29.970 --> 00:08:33.009 to put up like our mornings and like just come 00:08:33.009 --> 00:08:35.250 and help and like just get to know each other 00:08:35.250 --> 00:08:37.750 and follow along and everything. Yeah. Yeah. 00:08:37.870 --> 00:08:40.149 You get to see church from a whole other angle, 00:08:40.190 --> 00:08:44.049 right? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So in the midst 00:08:44.049 --> 00:08:46.049 of all of this, obviously this is a year for 00:08:46.049 --> 00:08:48.929 you to learn and to grow. So what have been some 00:08:48.929 --> 00:08:53.409 of your biggest learnings so far? Oh, a lot. 00:08:53.490 --> 00:08:57.429 I don't think we can pinpoint one specific thing. 00:08:57.809 --> 00:09:00.210 But what's the first thing that comes out to 00:09:00.210 --> 00:09:03.370 you? The importance of rest, I guess, because 00:09:03.370 --> 00:09:05.889 right now we're in the middle of the topic. But 00:09:05.889 --> 00:09:10.429 it's only because we're in such a culture and 00:09:10.429 --> 00:09:14.029 a pace of work lifestyle where it's like everything's 00:09:14.029 --> 00:09:17.710 so fast. And we're all just trying to chase that 00:09:17.710 --> 00:09:22.179 dopamine kind of thing. and right now we're like 00:09:22.179 --> 00:09:24.779 okay we're understanding how we can implement 00:09:24.779 --> 00:09:28.080 that and like navigate our day -to -day and like 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.919 make sure that we do have that rest or like look 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.120 forward to that how do we prepare for that and 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.860 that that has like really made me understand 00:09:37.860 --> 00:09:41.039 the importance of slowing down and intentionality 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:45.200 and and of course even like the joy and the delight 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.590 of being in that dress sure yeah this is like 00:09:48.590 --> 00:09:53.230 so many parts also for me it's like um i started 00:09:53.230 --> 00:09:56.210 like habits now like meditation like scripture 00:09:56.210 --> 00:09:59.110 reading it's like most of these things i wouldn't 00:09:59.110 --> 00:10:01.629 normally do but now that i've seen like oh it's 00:10:01.629 --> 00:10:05.049 like a fun it's like a good way to like apprenticeship 00:10:05.049 --> 00:10:09.100 with god in a way and see like you can like normal 00:10:09.100 --> 00:10:11.659 lives i've seen like my life improving like i'm 00:10:11.659 --> 00:10:14.279 doing better at some things now like i'm actually 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:16.340 finding strength to do some things and like the 00:10:16.340 --> 00:10:18.659 days i take off rest and like i have my sabbath 00:10:18.659 --> 00:10:21.440 it's also nice to like just feel connected with 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:24.440 one and like just you and god in your own space 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:26.759 and you're talking to him and it's fun to like 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.759 also like we also learned importance of like 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:31.019 community how it's important to gather as one 00:10:31.019 --> 00:10:34.820 and like just God is one talk is talk all together 00:10:34.820 --> 00:10:37.299 and like just understand where our faith is leading 00:10:37.299 --> 00:10:40.379 us to at the end of the day yeah yeah for sure 00:10:40.379 --> 00:10:43.659 uh my big learning was even the mere fact that 00:10:43.659 --> 00:10:47.379 there are so many different practices in Christianity 00:10:47.379 --> 00:10:52.100 that I uh previously was not even aware of for 00:10:52.100 --> 00:10:56.120 example the many times mentioned Sabbath um the 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.840 scripture practice how many how many of them 00:10:59.370 --> 00:11:02.990 are in total like about nine yeah about nine 00:11:02.990 --> 00:11:07.870 okay um so that's definitely quite eye -opening 00:11:07.870 --> 00:11:11.649 for me that i was totally not aware of that and 00:11:11.649 --> 00:11:15.690 i think it for me personally it's very curious 00:11:15.690 --> 00:11:20.190 to dive in deeper into the christianity and learn 00:11:20.190 --> 00:11:25.210 about that as opposed to um just you know just 00:11:25.210 --> 00:11:27.490 checking things off the checks like i'm going 00:11:27.490 --> 00:11:32.330 to church check um i do something else check 00:11:32.330 --> 00:11:36.309 right this is a more of a of an opportunity to 00:11:36.309 --> 00:11:41.110 um open the heart more to to the christianity 00:11:41.110 --> 00:11:45.029 and to um to the practices that underlie it sure 00:11:45.029 --> 00:11:47.789 yeah and like bring your whole self into it right 00:11:47.789 --> 00:11:49.889 not just yeah like you said not just like oh 00:11:49.889 --> 00:11:53.409 i did it done but like seeing yeah how it it 00:11:53.409 --> 00:11:56.330 requires more of you and and like you said christabel 00:11:56.330 --> 00:11:59.230 that it sort of transforms in your relationship 00:11:59.230 --> 00:12:03.070 with God and yourself as well. Yeah. Yeah. If 00:12:03.070 --> 00:12:05.049 I could, I would love to add on to that. That's, 00:12:05.049 --> 00:12:07.809 it's so, there's so many good points, but yeah, 00:12:07.870 --> 00:12:10.789 like the checklist thing is a big one for me. 00:12:10.789 --> 00:12:14.049 Um, I think I'm very prone to like kind of seeing 00:12:14.049 --> 00:12:15.690 my relationship with God as these things that 00:12:15.690 --> 00:12:19.049 we have, I have to do to like, um, yeah, to, 00:12:19.149 --> 00:12:22.830 to measure up. But it's like, um, it, it, it's 00:12:22.830 --> 00:12:26.090 something I've really learned from this program. 00:12:26.210 --> 00:12:30.669 It's not treating these disciplines as the end, 00:12:30.730 --> 00:12:32.950 but like a means to an end that the point is 00:12:32.950 --> 00:12:35.370 always God. I'm loving God. I'm loving others 00:12:35.370 --> 00:12:39.070 is like basically, basically it. And it's just, 00:12:39.149 --> 00:12:42.549 it's been for me and I'm sure for many others, 00:12:42.590 --> 00:12:49.379 it's, it's helped me. be less intimidated with 00:12:49.379 --> 00:12:52.100 the idea of these disciplines and habits and 00:12:52.100 --> 00:12:53.759 yeah instead of seeing them as this whole list 00:12:53.759 --> 00:12:55.919 like this overwhelming it's actually breaking 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:59.340 them down and seeing like look some of these 00:12:59.340 --> 00:13:03.620 are gonna work better for some people sure less 00:13:03.620 --> 00:13:07.039 for others um but yeah that's been big and just 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.139 just one other thing has been on my mind it's 00:13:09.139 --> 00:13:14.360 like I've really really learned how much I have 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.200 to learn from other people. Like, and I, I know 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:19.480 it's like, it's the right thing to say like, 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:20.980 Oh yeah, we all got to learn from each other. 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.480 But like, like really it's, it's been humbling. 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.440 Like honestly, we're, we're all at a relatively 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:30.399 the same like stage of life. Um, and like, yeah, 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.220 just, yeah, just our different perspectives and 00:13:32.220 --> 00:13:34.700 where we're coming from. Like it's, it's, it's 00:13:34.700 --> 00:13:38.679 mind blowing when we, we catch ourself in our 00:13:38.679 --> 00:13:40.279 pride and just say like, Hey, I'm actually going 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:43.980 to humble myself and listen. And like, pretend 00:13:43.980 --> 00:13:46.659 maybe this person has something helpful to say 00:13:46.659 --> 00:13:48.419 and then it's like wow that's that's literally 00:13:48.419 --> 00:13:50.840 what i've been that's answered a question i've 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:52.960 had for months like sure i think yeah that's 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:55.659 been big for me yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah 00:13:55.659 --> 00:13:58.120 yeah that's a lot of really good really cool 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:02.820 learning lots of new sort of life transforming 00:14:02.820 --> 00:14:05.360 i think in some ways right yeah because it's 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:08.399 like i mean we've all come from such different 00:14:08.399 --> 00:14:13.889 um walks right and so to like finally like be 00:14:13.889 --> 00:14:17.149 together and like kind of reprogram our brains 00:14:17.149 --> 00:14:19.789 to understanding oh this is how it is it's not 00:14:19.789 --> 00:14:23.269 what we thought it was sure right which is which 00:14:23.269 --> 00:14:26.710 is very like it changes a lot of things for all 00:14:26.710 --> 00:14:29.289 of us personally yeah for sure yeah and it's 00:14:29.289 --> 00:14:31.330 kind of like a big thing for me too because i'm 00:14:31.330 --> 00:14:33.570 normally a person who like i like being by myself 00:14:33.570 --> 00:14:35.990 like i really didn't think that oh i'd need to 00:14:35.990 --> 00:14:38.299 like talk to people or something like that because 00:14:38.299 --> 00:14:42.120 i'm more of like a i want to say inverted person 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:45.340 like kind of like just in me and then just going 00:14:45.340 --> 00:14:47.139 through all this i kind of say like the importance 00:14:47.139 --> 00:14:50.120 of like meeting other people it's important it's 00:14:50.120 --> 00:14:52.179 just as important as listening to yourself too 00:14:52.179 --> 00:14:54.720 and like it kind of helps me in that position 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.360 of like oh i'm now feeling a little more better 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.899 when i'm with a group of people sure so yeah 00:14:59.899 --> 00:15:05.179 that's amazing yeah totally So when you think 00:15:05.179 --> 00:15:09.120 about your relationship with God, how has being 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.919 part of this program for the last few months 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:14.340 transformed that or enriched that in some ways? 00:15:15.659 --> 00:15:17.879 Yeah, what has that looked like for you folks? 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:20.820 I know, Christabel, you already sort of talked 00:15:20.820 --> 00:15:23.220 about this idea of like apprenticing with God 00:15:23.220 --> 00:15:25.379 and just thinking about that relationship differently. 00:15:25.620 --> 00:15:27.799 Yeah. Also, it kind of like my relationship with 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:30.820 God now, it's more of a, it's not more of a, 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:33.940 oh, I have to do this thing because, oh, I'm 00:15:33.940 --> 00:15:35.539 Christian. I just have to do it. Like it's an 00:15:35.539 --> 00:15:37.899 obligation. But now it feels more like something 00:15:37.899 --> 00:15:40.480 I want to do. Like I naturally feel like I should 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:42.740 do, like I should at least get time to like talk 00:15:42.740 --> 00:15:46.110 to him, meditate, pray, you know, as like. me 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:47.929 alone or with a group of people it's also like 00:15:47.929 --> 00:15:50.889 held me in like knowing what's important and 00:15:50.889 --> 00:15:53.190 having like a stronger faith in like god it's 00:15:53.190 --> 00:15:55.929 god himself and it's just great all around because 00:15:55.929 --> 00:15:58.389 i feel more connected spiritually physically 00:15:58.389 --> 00:16:01.970 emotionally and it's keep like it keeps me grounded 00:16:01.970 --> 00:16:05.029 especially now and like i'm about to go to university 00:16:05.029 --> 00:16:07.070 it's like this is going to be a little big change 00:16:07.070 --> 00:16:09.710 for everything so it's like i needed this relationship 00:16:09.710 --> 00:16:13.009 to be like to grow stronger in me yeah yeah for 00:16:13.009 --> 00:16:18.769 sure I think it's also like, I did mention that 00:16:18.769 --> 00:16:21.269 most of my Christian journey was very alone. 00:16:21.549 --> 00:16:25.169 And so being finally like vulnerable with others 00:16:25.169 --> 00:16:31.190 who also want to grow and enjoy God and the Christian 00:16:31.190 --> 00:16:36.009 walk, right, has been super enriching, super 00:16:36.009 --> 00:16:38.830 enriching. And I feel like I'm finally somewhere 00:16:38.830 --> 00:16:43.830 like I can belong, right? Uh, and also definitely 00:16:43.830 --> 00:16:46.090 a place where I can finally serve because I have 00:16:46.090 --> 00:16:49.730 all this, this inept need to serve and like love 00:16:49.730 --> 00:16:53.389 and be growing together. And so now that it's 00:16:53.389 --> 00:16:55.929 there, I'm like, okay, I want to enjoy it a lot 00:16:55.929 --> 00:16:58.529 more. And I am a lot more grateful than before. 00:16:58.730 --> 00:17:01.730 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to sound like 00:17:01.730 --> 00:17:04.450 a broken record, but like the, the community 00:17:04.450 --> 00:17:08.380 thing that it's just like. the idea in the Bible 00:17:08.380 --> 00:17:11.000 of the body of Christ has become more and more 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.920 alive to me. And I feel like for so long, I just 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.900 didn't see, uh, I didn't see community done super, 00:17:17.980 --> 00:17:20.819 super well in the church. Like, um, this is not 00:17:20.819 --> 00:17:23.299 one particular church's fault. It's just like 00:17:23.299 --> 00:17:26.019 kind of the age where, and they were so individualistic 00:17:26.019 --> 00:17:29.359 and like my faith, my spirituality. But, uh, 00:17:29.539 --> 00:17:32.480 I, I don't know how exactly to explain it, but, 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:36.559 um, there's a lot of things like, obviously the 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.819 Lord will teach us on our own learning with him, 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.259 just reading his word and stuff. But, um, there 00:17:42.259 --> 00:17:44.720 is a big difference when we come together as 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:48.240 the body of Christ, that whatever it means, like 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:50.759 the, he's just here in the, in a unique way. 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.180 It's like, this is how it's meant to be. Like 00:17:53.180 --> 00:17:57.440 Jesus taught, he, he taught 12 disciples. Like 00:17:57.440 --> 00:17:59.880 he did this in a group. And I just think it's, 00:17:59.880 --> 00:18:01.319 it's just something about it feels so right. 00:18:01.619 --> 00:18:04.799 And it's, it's something. Yeah. I don't know. 00:18:04.859 --> 00:18:08.029 I, I can't exactly explain it, but another thing 00:18:08.029 --> 00:18:11.730 it's like the difference between, um, something 00:18:11.730 --> 00:18:13.789 my dad taught me, but it's really come alive 00:18:13.789 --> 00:18:16.470 in this, this, this program. It's like the difference 00:18:16.470 --> 00:18:19.069 between when Jesus says, come to me, you who 00:18:19.069 --> 00:18:21.470 are weary and burdened. He says, um, he said, 00:18:21.509 --> 00:18:23.670 come learn from me. It's like the difference 00:18:23.670 --> 00:18:26.130 between learning about, you know, you can show 00:18:26.130 --> 00:18:28.150 up on Sunday at a sermon, you learn about him, 00:18:28.190 --> 00:18:29.960 but. I think when we come together, we learn 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:32.779 from him and I don't know why that is, but I 00:18:32.779 --> 00:18:35.039 don't know if you guys know what I mean. It's 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:37.799 different. And, and a lot of that goes to Libby's 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:40.420 leadership. She's done a great job. And through 00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:43.380 her, like, I think we are learning from her, 00:18:43.380 --> 00:18:45.759 but also from, from the Lord. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.380 Yeah. There's something about creating that space. 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:50.819 Like Christ comes and fills in the space in between 00:18:50.819 --> 00:18:54.000 all of you. Right. Like, like in the, like, okay, 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:55.740 we're going to come together and like talk about 00:18:55.740 --> 00:18:58.859 Jesus, but. through our worship, through our 00:18:58.859 --> 00:19:00.759 prayer, through our conversation, we're also 00:19:00.759 --> 00:19:04.779 inviting Jesus into it, right? Sorry, but it 00:19:04.779 --> 00:19:06.940 reminds me of this one passage that says, when 00:19:06.940 --> 00:19:08.799 two or more are gathered in my presence, I am 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.480 there. So it kind of like emphasizes that when 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:14.960 you come to learn, not just about him, but you're 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:16.339 like, your intention is, oh, I'm going to open 00:19:16.339 --> 00:19:18.500 my heart to him. It's like, and that moment in 00:19:18.500 --> 00:19:20.400 that presence, it's like, he's there, you're 00:19:20.400 --> 00:19:23.099 learning from him. And like, he's using like 00:19:23.099 --> 00:19:25.940 our teacher Libby, she's amazing. He's using 00:19:25.940 --> 00:19:28.789 her to like, talk to each and every one of us 00:19:28.789 --> 00:19:31.170 like we all here we're all hearing the same things 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:33.009 but in our heart we're all feeling it differently 00:19:33.009 --> 00:19:35.269 like it's filling up spot like different spots 00:19:35.269 --> 00:19:37.930 for us like where we needed to be and so yeah 00:19:37.930 --> 00:19:41.789 it's like really amazing yeah yeah true and every 00:19:41.789 --> 00:19:44.009 like thursday somehow we always feel like the 00:19:44.009 --> 00:19:46.529 holy spirit just kind of like leading us through 00:19:46.529 --> 00:19:48.970 it and then we're all like sitting there going 00:19:48.970 --> 00:19:53.410 like wow god just did that which is really nice 00:19:53.410 --> 00:19:56.910 yeah that's awesome Yeah. What about for you, 00:19:56.930 --> 00:19:58.750 Daniel, when you think about like your relationship 00:19:58.750 --> 00:20:01.109 with God, how has that been impacted through 00:20:01.109 --> 00:20:03.730 this program so far? Oh, it definitely made me 00:20:03.730 --> 00:20:09.009 know more about God. Um, we naturally want to 00:20:09.009 --> 00:20:12.809 know more about people who loves us, who love 00:20:12.809 --> 00:20:15.650 us and God loves us. So why wouldn't we want 00:20:15.650 --> 00:20:17.730 to learn more about him? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For 00:20:17.730 --> 00:20:21.960 sure. For sure. What about your other relationships, 00:20:22.140 --> 00:20:24.440 like relationships with friends or family or 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.000 even like your own relationship with yourself? 00:20:27.099 --> 00:20:30.660 How has that been impacted through this program 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:34.460 so far? You think about what that looks like? 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:38.059 I know that there's probably this sense of being 00:20:38.059 --> 00:20:41.420 in community together that obviously like you 00:20:41.420 --> 00:20:44.059 four didn't know each other before this, really. 00:20:44.180 --> 00:20:46.920 So there's that introduction of new relationships. 00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:51.400 Yeah. What's, what's that been like? I think 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:53.400 it was family specifically, like once they got 00:20:53.400 --> 00:20:55.299 to know that, okay, I made the decision to join 00:20:55.299 --> 00:20:57.039 the DY program, they were like, oh, okay, you 00:20:57.039 --> 00:21:00.059 have a community, you'll be fine. Right. But 00:21:00.059 --> 00:21:02.579 as the weeks progressed and I would talk to them 00:21:02.579 --> 00:21:04.460 about like, hey, this is what I learned. Oh, 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:05.980 then, you know, we kind of like share scripture 00:21:05.980 --> 00:21:11.640 together. And I can see that, you know, with 00:21:11.640 --> 00:21:14.940 the DY program pouring into me a lot, it's been 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:18.880 I'm able to pour out a lot more to my family, 00:21:18.900 --> 00:21:21.579 my friends, and even my coworkers at my work. 00:21:21.980 --> 00:21:25.700 And that joy is kind of contagious. Sure. And 00:21:25.700 --> 00:21:28.140 that, that need to like learn and grow is also 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:30.200 very contagious. And like, Oh, okay. We want 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:32.059 to like learn a little more. We want to know 00:21:32.059 --> 00:21:34.900 what you learned this week. Right. And so, and 00:21:34.900 --> 00:21:38.779 then, and then like my parents, for instance, 00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:42.279 they've kind of had that seep into their own 00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:45.740 spiritual life as well. And it's kind of like 00:21:45.740 --> 00:21:48.700 the butterfly effect, right? And I can see it 00:21:48.700 --> 00:21:51.259 happen to my best friends as well because I'm 00:21:51.259 --> 00:21:55.119 being poured into spiritually. And I see that 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:57.259 even with my parents. So it's very fulfilling 00:21:57.259 --> 00:22:01.960 and enriching. Yeah, that's awesome. I think 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:07.019 one of the biggest things I think I'm learning 00:22:07.019 --> 00:22:10.140 that's helped a lot of my relationships is just 00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:13.319 learning the power of confession. And I don't 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.930 just mean like, Like we're not coming here confessing 00:22:15.930 --> 00:22:17.970 our deepest, darkest secrets or anything, but 00:22:17.970 --> 00:22:19.789 you know, there's, there's, as we're talking 00:22:19.789 --> 00:22:22.509 about Jesus, I mean, we're always going to be 00:22:22.509 --> 00:22:25.210 like, oh yeah, I'm not him. You know, we see 00:22:25.210 --> 00:22:28.150 all the ways we fall short inevitably, but just, 00:22:28.210 --> 00:22:30.369 you know, confessing kind of regular sin and, 00:22:30.390 --> 00:22:34.230 and also, but also, I mean like confessing weakness 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:37.509 and just confessing like this is where I'm at. 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.140 Um, it's not always just about confessing sin. 00:22:40.200 --> 00:22:42.059 It's like this, just being vulnerable with each 00:22:42.059 --> 00:22:44.240 other. Yeah, exactly. Just sharing, like, exactly. 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:48.079 Um, sharing like who you are and where you're 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:51.980 at. Um, it's really powerful. And it's, it, I 00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:56.019 think it's, it's often like we, there's maybe 00:22:56.019 --> 00:22:58.640 some pressure to either not speak up about where 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:01.269 we're at or. not maybe not ask questions that 00:23:01.269 --> 00:23:03.170 we might think like they're dumb questions, but 00:23:03.170 --> 00:23:05.750 like, I just think again, going back to some 00:23:05.750 --> 00:23:09.150 of the foundations of the faith and we're all 00:23:09.150 --> 00:23:11.329 having these things come up and like, we're just, 00:23:11.390 --> 00:23:13.210 I just feel like, I don't know if you guys would 00:23:13.210 --> 00:23:15.130 agree. Like it feels just so like real, like 00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:18.269 we're not trying to put on an act for anybody. 00:23:19.069 --> 00:23:23.170 That idea has really helped. Like it's important. 00:23:23.230 --> 00:23:25.890 It's overflowed into my other relationships where 00:23:25.890 --> 00:23:29.480 like I'm trying more and more to just, Just realize, 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:31.779 yeah, like I can just be honest with where I'm 00:23:31.779 --> 00:23:35.759 at and encourage others to do the same, like 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.559 almost take the lead. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Because 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:41.880 I think there's a lot of spaces, a lot of people 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:43.759 who are afraid to be vulnerable and like feel 00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:46.240 like they can't be honest or authentic. And so 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.900 when someone takes that step and it it opens 00:23:49.900 --> 00:23:52.539 up space for other people to be like, oh. Yeah. 00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:56.299 Nobody shot Ryland down. So I guess, I guess 00:23:56.299 --> 00:23:59.640 it's okay for us to like be real here. I see 00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:02.740 it as like a, a bridge almost. Cause you know, 00:24:02.740 --> 00:24:05.779 Jesus says like, come like that's the phrase, 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:08.680 like come, come as you are. Like a lot, I think 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:10.440 a lot of people, especially outside of the church, 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:13.180 but even sometimes maybe who are a part of the 00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:15.640 church, but feel outcasted. It's like, they just 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:17.599 don't know how to get from where they are to 00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:21.730 like. the ideal spiritual like sure you know 00:24:21.730 --> 00:24:24.390 we're never gonna reach that in this life but 00:24:24.390 --> 00:24:26.970 like still I I see it yeah exactly like you said 00:24:26.970 --> 00:24:29.230 it's it's kind of like a welcoming hand to say 00:24:29.230 --> 00:24:31.750 hey like there's more for you like there's more 00:24:31.750 --> 00:24:35.410 there is this abundant life and and freedom yeah 00:24:35.410 --> 00:24:39.289 yeah also for me like I'd like to say like relationship 00:24:39.289 --> 00:24:42.029 wise it's like me personally it's like helped 00:24:42.029 --> 00:24:45.349 me like most days feels like filler days like 00:24:45.349 --> 00:24:47.089 you're just going by and then everything feels 00:24:47.089 --> 00:24:50.289 slow and drowsy but recently like i've been like 00:24:50.289 --> 00:24:53.789 every day feels like something important has 00:24:53.789 --> 00:24:56.549 happened like just me being there like even if 00:24:56.549 --> 00:24:58.930 nothing greatly important happened i just feel 00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:03.140 like each day has so much value to it now now 00:25:03.140 --> 00:25:04.980 that like relationship with myself it's like 00:25:04.980 --> 00:25:06.839 i can feel like i'm being more like mentally 00:25:06.839 --> 00:25:08.920 healthy like i'm more healthy with myself now 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:11.740 sure i know how to like value my emotions now 00:25:11.740 --> 00:25:15.019 and i know when to like just stop for a minute 00:25:15.019 --> 00:25:17.880 i know when to take a breather when like i should 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.660 know when things are getting a little bit overwhelming 00:25:19.660 --> 00:25:21.700 i know how to handle situations with that i could 00:25:21.700 --> 00:25:25.339 just stop you know talk or like read or something 00:25:25.339 --> 00:25:28.079 and then it's like it's brought me to a place 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.599 where i'm like wow life is actually great guys 00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:34.599 it's amazing actually yeah yeah yeah yeah for 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.059 sure yeah anything you wanted to add to that 00:25:37.059 --> 00:25:40.480 to neil i would agree with christabel that um 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:44.140 emotions have definitely become much more structured 00:25:44.140 --> 00:25:49.079 and managed personally for me um i think that's 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:53.440 great yeah yeah for sure Um, so we've talked 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.079 about all of this learning, like for yourselves 00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.799 and for like your, your faith and your spirituality. 00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:01.500 What about like practical learnings? Like the 00:26:01.500 --> 00:26:03.740 things that you're doing in your ministry, what, 00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:05.400 what have you been doing? What have you been 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:09.599 learning in, in those ministry placements? Each 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:14.599 ministry has like a lot. And I know like I've 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:16.980 throughout my walk of like through education 00:26:16.980 --> 00:26:20.380 and stuff, I've learned a lot of things. but 00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:23.140 to finally kind of implement them, use them and 00:26:23.140 --> 00:26:26.259 then kind of like nurture it into getting something 00:26:26.259 --> 00:26:30.200 out of it. It's so nice. So for instance, my 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.339 first placement was with the children's ministry 00:26:32.339 --> 00:26:35.640 and I've worked with kids before, but to finally 00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.519 talk to them about God's love and then sit down 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:41.539 and make it like. understandable and as simple 00:26:41.539 --> 00:26:44.819 as it is because the gospel is just that simple 00:26:44.819 --> 00:26:47.900 it's so nice and then they're like oh okay we 00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:49.779 understand and like you know they're also trying 00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:52.400 to pay attention and like play the games whatever 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.319 it is but we're also like understanding the bible 00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:58.460 together in the simplest forms it's so nice and 00:26:58.460 --> 00:27:01.579 then the same thing with the tech team and i 00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:03.920 know with the tech team it was like i got to 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.890 learn like a lot of um the production side of 00:27:07.890 --> 00:27:10.029 it because I've always done post -production. 00:27:10.230 --> 00:27:12.410 Okay. So to finally like be behind the camera 00:27:12.410 --> 00:27:14.109 and be like, okay, this is how I could do it. 00:27:14.150 --> 00:27:16.109 And like, you know, what's keen? How is this? 00:27:16.670 --> 00:27:20.470 That's so cool. And then the last one right now, 00:27:20.490 --> 00:27:23.549 I'm on the worship team. I did get to do like 00:27:23.549 --> 00:27:25.809 a lot of readings. I did get to be in the practice 00:27:25.809 --> 00:27:28.549 with them as well. Like they have Thursday evenings 00:27:28.549 --> 00:27:32.079 as practice. And seeing the amount of effort 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.140 and then the quality that they're trying to bring 00:27:34.140 --> 00:27:37.140 back into the church and show it to God because 00:27:37.140 --> 00:27:40.299 they're like, okay, God gave us this. So we're 00:27:40.299 --> 00:27:44.119 giving this quality back. I love that. I love 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.339 that so much. Yeah. I think you were also doing 00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:50.460 some camera stuff. Yeah, for me, like each placement 00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:53.259 has like taught me something valuable, like for 00:27:53.259 --> 00:27:54.960 like the tech, because I started off with the 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.039 tech. It kind of taught me like the importance 00:27:57.039 --> 00:28:00.740 of each person and how it's important that as 00:28:00.740 --> 00:28:02.680 each person is walking together, like every how 00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:04.119 everything comes together, like the importance 00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:06.440 of like teamwork, the importance of like just 00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.619 being there and like having better communication 00:28:09.619 --> 00:28:11.619 because communication is important. We have to 00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:13.859 tell each other what to do. We have to like receive 00:28:13.859 --> 00:28:15.940 back feedback. And it's like. that's taught me 00:28:15.940 --> 00:28:19.180 like basically community teamwork, how that's 00:28:19.180 --> 00:28:22.000 important. Then for like, cause I just finished, 00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:24.880 like I was doing the outreach too. Kind of showed 00:28:24.880 --> 00:28:27.500 me like how it's important, like getting information 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:30.500 out there to like other people and how it's like, 00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.740 not just in the church where we have to think 00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:34.700 outside too. We have to know, like understand 00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:37.559 that, Oh, we're trying to reach out to like everyone, 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:40.200 the gospels for everyone. Right. And it's like, 00:28:40.650 --> 00:28:44.049 It's just amazing to see that and like to participate 00:28:44.049 --> 00:28:46.509 in that. It's like truly amazing. And now I'm 00:28:46.509 --> 00:28:50.509 with the kids, learned like patience. For sure. 00:28:50.769 --> 00:28:55.210 We'll do that. Exactly. And it's just. so much 00:28:55.210 --> 00:28:59.130 how you can see this little kids and when they're 00:28:59.130 --> 00:29:01.730 teaching about god and how like they're so into 00:29:01.730 --> 00:29:03.569 the lesson like into the lesson like you can 00:29:03.569 --> 00:29:06.069 see like the pure innocence in them and how they're 00:29:06.069 --> 00:29:08.549 like really excited to like know more about god 00:29:08.549 --> 00:29:10.490 they're like asking questions they're like oh 00:29:10.490 --> 00:29:12.769 he did this he did that and it's like they're 00:29:12.769 --> 00:29:16.029 so happy it's like trying to meet up with like 00:29:16.029 --> 00:29:19.009 it's trying to like show them how important god 00:29:19.009 --> 00:29:21.529 is and in that moment you also remember what 00:29:21.529 --> 00:29:23.970 it was like as a kid sure like hearing about 00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:26.309 this great miracles god did and like the stories 00:29:26.309 --> 00:29:28.289 and you're like oh this was the importance back 00:29:28.289 --> 00:29:30.809 then now that i'm teaching it i fully understand 00:29:30.809 --> 00:29:33.529 what i'm teaching sure so like yeah all together 00:29:33.529 --> 00:29:36.809 it's like amazing really yeah yeah for sure yeah 00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:38.869 what about for you daniel what's you've been 00:29:38.869 --> 00:29:41.950 learning and doing um from reading the scripture 00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:44.369 to hang out with the kids and teaching them lessons 00:29:44.369 --> 00:29:49.190 uh we're doing pretty much Everything. The technical 00:29:49.190 --> 00:29:52.230 side of the things, the production part, as Naraya 00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:56.230 mentioned, teaching the children, spreading the 00:29:56.230 --> 00:29:58.569 gospel, connecting with people outside of the 00:29:58.569 --> 00:30:04.130 church and those who watch us online. Every ministry 00:30:04.130 --> 00:30:07.230 has its own thing. And as I mentioned previously, 00:30:08.109 --> 00:30:11.309 the four ministries work synergetically to... 00:30:11.950 --> 00:30:15.569 to bring life into the church. And the discipleship 00:30:15.569 --> 00:30:21.230 here has shown me and keeps showing me all these 00:30:21.230 --> 00:30:26.690 different parts of the church system and how 00:30:26.690 --> 00:30:29.769 we can contribute in each part to keep it working. 00:30:29.930 --> 00:30:32.710 Yeah, yeah. And I like that, like synergistically, 00:30:32.849 --> 00:30:34.890 like they all work together and build on each 00:30:34.890 --> 00:30:38.289 other. Yeah. Yeah. Well, for you, Riley, I know 00:30:38.289 --> 00:30:39.990 you've been doing a lot of work in youth ministry, 00:30:40.069 --> 00:30:42.789 right? Yeah. So I'm a bit of a outsider here. 00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:48.250 No, not an outsider. So I got to do two placements, 00:30:48.250 --> 00:30:51.049 one with Kyla and then one with Libby as well, 00:30:51.069 --> 00:30:56.109 who does the music. But then I actually kind 00:30:56.109 --> 00:30:59.450 of opted out of this portion just because I'm 00:30:59.450 --> 00:31:01.750 also, yeah, like I said, I'm also a full -time 00:31:01.750 --> 00:31:05.579 student. So that's a lot. And I'm also, yeah, 00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:09.400 I am also a co -youth director here. So I, Mia 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.319 and I, we lead youth every Friday evening and 00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:16.299 then Sundays as well. After service, we, well, 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:18.680 after the message, we talk about it with the 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:23.220 youth. Yeah. But I, it's, it really is. Yeah. 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.720 That's been like amazing. I mean, talk about 00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.920 like, I guess, nostalgia. I'm talking to them 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:33.210 and I'm just like, wow. Like I was once. like 00:31:33.210 --> 00:31:36.690 you guys. And it's just, yeah, it's, it's crazy 00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:41.690 how much we have, like how much opportunity we 00:31:41.690 --> 00:31:45.470 have to, to love them and push them in the right 00:31:45.470 --> 00:31:47.849 direction when they're so young, right. Their 00:31:47.849 --> 00:31:50.829 minds are in hearts are so malleable and, and, 00:31:50.910 --> 00:31:53.890 um, there's so many, the world is working in 00:31:53.890 --> 00:31:56.529 the opposite direction, but yeah, it's, so there's 00:31:56.529 --> 00:31:59.970 that. And it's also, I, I really. I love that 00:31:59.970 --> 00:32:02.529 we've done this. Um, even, even if I only got 00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:05.089 to do about half of it because it's, it, it's 00:32:05.089 --> 00:32:07.529 totally like you guys are saying it's, it's all 00:32:07.529 --> 00:32:09.950 works together to make like you show up on a 00:32:09.950 --> 00:32:13.029 Sunday morning. Um, and you'll see, you know, 00:32:13.029 --> 00:32:15.190 the, the production, everything, and then the 00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:18.690 message and we take communion, but to see all 00:32:18.690 --> 00:32:20.930 the stuff that goes into that, that sure hours, 00:32:20.930 --> 00:32:23.210 the hours and the, the heart and the soul that's, 00:32:23.210 --> 00:32:25.930 that's poured into it. Um, it just helps you 00:32:25.930 --> 00:32:28.170 realize like, yeah, it's, you know, what's the 00:32:28.170 --> 00:32:30.109 scripture say? Like the hand can't save the foot. 00:32:30.230 --> 00:32:34.589 I don't need you. Like it, it actually, we actually 00:32:34.589 --> 00:32:36.789 need each other and we need every single member. 00:32:36.849 --> 00:32:39.789 So I hope like what it's been for me is an encouragement 00:32:39.789 --> 00:32:42.269 and I hope it is for, for all of us that like 00:32:42.269 --> 00:32:47.250 every member of the body is so precious and every 00:32:47.250 --> 00:32:49.809 person who maybe does show up on a Sunday and 00:32:49.809 --> 00:32:52.130 feels like, Oh, I want to serve, but I, I don't 00:32:52.130 --> 00:32:54.069 have anything to give. It's like, that's a lie 00:32:54.069 --> 00:32:58.460 from the enemy. Like come forward and, Like you, 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:00.859 you've been given a gift to give back to the 00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:03.519 church, right. To build up. So it's really beautiful 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:06.700 how, um, we had a ministry fair like a month 00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:09.299 or two ago where there's just, there's so many 00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:11.539 different ways that you can serve. Yeah. Um, 00:33:11.539 --> 00:33:14.519 which I love. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:18.650 sure. Yeah. So when you think about these last 00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:22.250 few months, is there one highlight that stands 00:33:22.250 --> 00:33:24.369 out to you? And one thing that's like, ah, this 00:33:24.369 --> 00:33:26.549 has been my favorite part of this program so 00:33:26.549 --> 00:33:32.660 far. One favorite part? Okay, let's start with 00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:35.359 one. See where we go. Anyone else can answer. 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:40.059 I have to think about where I can go. Well, for 00:33:40.059 --> 00:33:42.660 me, I'd probably say the whole teaching about 00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:45.460 Sabbath. Because I've heard about it before. 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.660 I've heard what it is. I know what it is. But 00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:51.859 now that I'm actually... They're teaching us 00:33:51.859 --> 00:33:53.759 about it and its importance. And they're going 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.220 into such a great depth where it shows you that... 00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.500 This isn't just spiritually beneficial, which 00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:02.519 is nice, but it's also physically beneficial. 00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:06.400 Like if you do this, it's like you're finding 00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:08.880 something in yourself that you're like, oh, this 00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:10.880 is amazing. I like this. I like the feeling of 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.659 like finally taking a break. And sometimes you 00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:15.139 don't even realize you actually need a break. 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:16.900 And then when you do it, you're like, oh, I guess 00:34:16.900 --> 00:34:18.920 I was only feeling anxious and stressed because 00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:20.739 of like I had so much going on. But now like 00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:24.269 I have. I've started to take a day to like not 00:34:24.269 --> 00:34:26.750 do anything and just be where I am. It's like, 00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:28.869 oh, now I know what I did wrong. I know where 00:34:28.869 --> 00:34:31.489 like this emotion is coming from. I know how 00:34:31.489 --> 00:34:34.070 to regulate it properly. And it's like, it shows 00:34:34.070 --> 00:34:36.590 you just how much, because even God himself had 00:34:36.590 --> 00:34:38.769 a Sabbath, like after he created the word and 00:34:38.769 --> 00:34:42.380 everything, like it shows you like. I just needed 00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:44.500 to take a break with God. I just need to take 00:34:44.500 --> 00:34:46.039 a break with my family. I just need to take a 00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.800 break with community, with myself. Like it's 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.760 just so important. And I think that's a very 00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.539 good key for me now and like a good highlight 00:34:55.539 --> 00:34:57.960 for me, especially most of us are like about 00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:59.719 to be students or we are students. It's like 00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:02.239 hard to like navigate resting and then study 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:05.280 and everything. So it's really just nice to know 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.599 that you should take a break. it's important 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.039 like for you physically mentally emotionally 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.159 just take that break speak to god speak to yourself 00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.699 know what you really want to do know where the 00:35:16.699 --> 00:35:19.300 problem is and then just let it go from there 00:35:19.300 --> 00:35:23.980 yeah for sure the learning environment and the 00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:27.239 environment the environment of practicing all 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.019 the christianity customs in uh in a small group 00:35:31.019 --> 00:35:37.829 is certainly unmatched um it is we are Certainly 00:35:37.829 --> 00:35:40.869 becoming more vulnerable with each other as we 00:35:40.869 --> 00:35:44.869 progress throughout our studies, our ministry 00:35:44.869 --> 00:35:48.849 placements. We become closer to ourselves and 00:35:48.849 --> 00:35:53.050 to God and to each other. And that's certainly 00:35:53.050 --> 00:35:57.170 one of the biggest advantages I find of doing 00:35:57.170 --> 00:36:05.110 this. As small groups are kind of more, what's 00:36:05.110 --> 00:36:08.059 the word for it? Close -knit? Yeah, that's certainly 00:36:08.059 --> 00:36:10.219 more of a closed -knit community rather than 00:36:10.219 --> 00:36:17.159 a big stage and a big crowd of people. Yeah, 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:24.320 for sure. You ready? Go ahead, Ryland. Go ahead, 00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:29.639 go ahead. I'm going to go very specific. Like, 00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:31.719 yeah, I mean, I keep talking all day about this, 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:35.219 but the scripture practice, the first, like, 00:36:36.399 --> 00:36:38.940 spiritual discipline. Um, we did, it's weird 00:36:38.940 --> 00:36:41.139 even calling it that it's, it was such a, such 00:36:41.139 --> 00:36:45.679 a gift to me. Um, we, we talked about, it was 00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:51.019 read, um, meditate, study and memorize. So for 00:36:51.019 --> 00:36:55.019 memorize, um, like I'm someone, I, I, I have 00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:56.579 a good memory when I'm interested in something. 00:36:56.659 --> 00:36:58.400 If I'm not interested, it's hard to remember 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.179 things. But so I, I, I've never struggled too 00:37:01.179 --> 00:37:04.780 much with, um, memorizing scripture, but I, I, 00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:06.699 most of the time it's just, I remember something 00:37:06.699 --> 00:37:09.920 I read, but trying to stop and memorize something 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.599 has, to me, it's just always felt like, oh, that's 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.420 just, that's so like, it's just felt off to me. 00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:17.579 Like, I'm just going to sit here and say something 00:37:17.579 --> 00:37:20.780 over. But the way that we've been taught to do 00:37:20.780 --> 00:37:25.179 it is like, he describes it as like, John Mark 00:37:25.179 --> 00:37:27.940 Homer describes it as, as like chewing on something, 00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:32.039 like slowly, as opposed to just like, like I 00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.340 do when I eat, I just eat so fast. But taking 00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:38.539 your time. So I this just a specific practice 00:37:38.539 --> 00:37:42.159 I'll share briefly. It was to pick a passage 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.780 of scripture to memorize. And then week by week, 00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.760 you choose two verses per week. And like, I just 00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:53.599 need to say this. I was so like, I was almost 00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.599 like insulted. I can memorize more than that. 00:37:55.679 --> 00:38:00.900 But it's actually so beautiful what God has done. 00:38:01.099 --> 00:38:04.039 I chose Psalm 139 to try to do the whole thing. 00:38:04.539 --> 00:38:07.639 But like just these, like you're just memorizing 00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:12.480 a few verses at a time and like just saying them 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.440 over and over again, the amount that God has 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:19.519 shown me and just that, like just saying those 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.599 over and over in my head and throughout the day, 00:38:21.699 --> 00:38:26.460 it's been like the most enriching thing in my 00:38:26.460 --> 00:38:30.960 life, in my spiritual life in general, like in 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.219 so long. So, yeah. And there's a lot of stuff 00:38:35.219 --> 00:38:37.260 like that that we're learning here where we're 00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:40.199 just, it's very practical, but you have no idea 00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:42.099 what's waiting on the other side until you just 00:38:42.099 --> 00:38:48.820 like, just go for it. Yeah. Jump on in. To add 00:38:48.820 --> 00:38:51.400 on kind of like about the chewing scripture in 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:56.719 a way, it just made me think about a passage, 00:38:56.780 --> 00:38:59.039 which will help me concise everything that I 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:03.880 want to say. you know, the part where Jesus goes 00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.960 like, Oh, if a son asked the father for bread, 00:39:07.099 --> 00:39:09.599 which father would give them a stone? Right. 00:39:09.659 --> 00:39:15.940 Right. And so it's like, I'm in this DIY program. 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.679 I'm finally understanding how to not like his 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.280 perspective, like father's perspective. but also 00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.679 how to delight in the fact that he wants to bless 00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:29.159 us so much. Yeah. And also like how to enjoy 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:33.619 his presence a lot more and just, yeah, just 00:39:33.619 --> 00:39:36.199 that part. I'm just going to leave that as that. 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.679 That's the passage in that. No, that's beautiful. 00:39:39.019 --> 00:39:42.610 Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, this is so great to like 00:39:42.610 --> 00:39:44.449 hear all of these different thoughts and like 00:39:44.449 --> 00:39:46.650 glean all of these little bits of learning and 00:39:46.650 --> 00:39:49.130 like, yeah, just to see how God is obviously 00:39:49.130 --> 00:39:53.050 at work in each of your lives and in this ministry. 00:39:53.750 --> 00:39:56.550 So if there's folks who are watching or listening 00:39:56.550 --> 00:40:00.639 and thinking, well, I want to do that or. Maybe 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.219 there's folks who are listening and thinking, 00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:10.239 well, that sounds cool for that. What would you 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.340 want to say to folks to sort of encourage them 00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:14.639 to think about this a little more? Just do it. 00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:20.480 Yeah, Nike. I feel like at first it might seem, 00:40:20.619 --> 00:40:23.320 oh, it feels, oh, it's nice. I'm sure it's nice 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:25.320 to have people to communicate with. And they're 00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:26.880 probably like, oh, but maybe I don't have time 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.340 for it. My advice would be like, it's worth it 00:40:30.340 --> 00:40:32.699 trust me like there's this thing we learned um 00:40:32.699 --> 00:40:35.940 anamkara something like that called a soul friend 00:40:35.940 --> 00:40:41.280 where i feel like if you just do it you will 00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.320 find your soul friend you will find your soul 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:46.360 people actually where you can just like this 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:48.579 like they're going to lead you through a lot 00:40:48.579 --> 00:40:50.539 of things like they're going to help you out 00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:52.420 through like maybe it's something you're going 00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:55.179 through financially emotionally like something 00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:57.500 you just want you just need to get it out there 00:40:57.500 --> 00:41:00.059 they're like these people are going to help you 00:41:00.059 --> 00:41:01.500 like they're going to be there they're going 00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:03.519 to have your back when you stumble a little bit 00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:05.079 they're going to tell you oh you stumbled we're 00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:07.380 going to push you back up again and it's just 00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:11.000 a great way to like find faith because in a in 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:12.920 the world we're leaving it now it's like so easy 00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.599 to like have your fate like wither away slowly 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.260 but like in this setting group setting we're 00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:21.820 in right now it's like kind of like watering 00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:25.280 that plant to like help you grow more and it's 00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:27.280 just really nice like just do it like just come 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.679 do it try it out and see for yourself like it's 00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:33.480 amazing yeah give it a try you miss all the shots 00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:36.000 you don't take well there you go just go for 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:42.230 it there you go see for yourself Cool. Well, 00:41:42.289 --> 00:41:44.809 thank you so much, folks. This has been a really 00:41:44.809 --> 00:41:47.010 encouraging conversation and really great to 00:41:47.010 --> 00:41:48.769 just sort of get to know each of you a little 00:41:48.769 --> 00:41:53.769 bit better. Yeah, and so grateful for your stories, 00:41:53.769 --> 00:41:56.210 for your authenticity and vulnerability here. 00:41:56.849 --> 00:41:59.670 And thank you for tuning in to this week's episode 00:41:59.670 --> 00:42:03.090 of Trinity Talks. I hope that you are also able 00:42:03.090 --> 00:42:05.989 to find spaces of community where you can learn 00:42:05.989 --> 00:42:08.530 to follow Christ together. And I would love if 00:42:08.530 --> 00:42:10.670 you find that here with us at Trinity, whether 00:42:10.670 --> 00:42:13.869 you are part of a life group here, part of our 00:42:13.869 --> 00:42:17.250 congregation, or if you are 18 to 25 and want 00:42:17.250 --> 00:42:19.809 to try this program as well, you can check out 00:42:19.809 --> 00:42:21.670 the Discipleship Year program on our website. 00:42:21.829 --> 00:42:23.989 And we'd love to get in touch with you about 00:42:23.989 --> 00:42:26.469 that. And we will see you again next week.