WEBVTT 00:00:03.979 --> 00:00:07.240 Good morning, everyone, and welcome to this week's 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:10.080 episode of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla. I'm 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:14.320 Melissa. I'm Brittyn. I'm Justin. And we are 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.620 continuing our series to talk about the Beatitudes, 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:21.219 which is this sort of way that Jesus opens his 00:00:21.219 --> 00:00:23.640 sermon on the Mount, talking about all of the 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:26.899 folks who are blessed. And it's kind of a surprising 00:00:26.899 --> 00:00:29.920 list because it's all these people that we think 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:33.039 aren't actually. blessed aren't actually like 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:35.820 worth investing in or worth like replicating, 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:40.240 but Jesus is like, no, go do that. And today 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.859 we are talking about the Beatitude where Jesus 00:00:42.859 --> 00:00:46.240 says, blessed are those who hunger and thirst 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:50.960 for righteousness, for they will be filled. Now, 00:00:51.380 --> 00:00:54.679 again, we have come to one of those kind of churchy 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:59.340 words, which is righteousness. And there's probably 00:00:59.340 --> 00:01:01.600 lots of different ways of understanding righteousness. 00:01:01.700 --> 00:01:05.239 I think like in sort of broader culture, when 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:07.079 people hear righteousness, it like doesn't really 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.040 have a great sort of meaning or like association. 00:01:11.340 --> 00:01:13.780 I think like most often people will think of 00:01:13.780 --> 00:01:16.620 like self -righteous sort of people and be like, 00:01:16.620 --> 00:01:21.420 oh, you're like really judgy or something. But 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:23.400 I'm going to say that that's again is probably 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:28.739 not what Jesus is about here. So when we hear 00:01:28.739 --> 00:01:30.819 this word righteousness in the context of scripture, 00:01:30.859 --> 00:01:35.159 when Jesus is talking about righteousness, what 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:39.659 do we think Jesus has in mind here? I guess I 00:01:39.659 --> 00:01:42.079 would say that, you know, righteousness is one 00:01:42.079 --> 00:01:43.799 of those words that when I hear it, I kind of 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.299 like tense up because I'm like, I'm not righteous, 00:01:46.299 --> 00:01:48.120 you know, and it's like, what does that mean? 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.019 I believe that when Jesus is saying it, he's 00:01:52.019 --> 00:01:55.780 specifically referencing the fact that We need 00:01:55.780 --> 00:01:59.019 to kind of like get right with God and you know 00:01:59.019 --> 00:02:02.120 the first couple of Beatitudes is talking about 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.500 you know those who are poor in spirit those who 00:02:04.500 --> 00:02:07.640 mourn And now it's kind of like okay, so I am 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:11.180 poor in spirit. I am mourning I'm you know trying 00:02:11.180 --> 00:02:13.080 to be meek and I'm going through really really 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.020 hard things and Jesus is kind of saying you know, 00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:19.759 I guess it's kind of what pastor Rob had said 00:02:19.759 --> 00:02:21.900 a couple weeks ago about with the ladder analogy 00:02:21.900 --> 00:02:25.159 of Now it's kind of like you recognize your sin 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:27.439 you recognize that you're limited and you're 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:29.680 lowly you need God and now it's kind of like 00:02:29.680 --> 00:02:31.659 you're thirsting for something that only God 00:02:31.659 --> 00:02:34.840 can give you because As humans, I believe we're 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:36.919 not completely we're not righteous. We're only 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.439 righteous through God only through Jesus Christ 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.979 So I guess perhaps that's what Jesus is saying 00:02:42.979 --> 00:02:45.520 that now you're thirsting for God. You're thirsting 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:49.319 for righteousness So pursue that right? So there's 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.500 a sense of it's something whatever it is. It's 00:02:51.500 --> 00:02:54.580 something that we can't actually quite yet for 00:02:54.580 --> 00:02:58.439 ourselves. Yeah. What would you folks add to 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:05.319 that? Justin? Yeah. That sense of it's not something 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:09.020 you have. Right. Bonhoeffer makes this point, 00:03:09.139 --> 00:03:11.719 Dietrich Bonhoeffer, he says, like, that hungering 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:13.560 and thirsting for righteousness is the thing 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:17.639 that's being commended there. Right. Right. It's 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.960 kind of like that. What's that old Will Smith? 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:24.039 movie, The Pursuit of Happiness. Oh, yeah. Makes 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.560 that point like it's the pursuit of happiness 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:28.939 that you have the right, you know, in the States 00:03:28.939 --> 00:03:32.520 allegedly. Right. It's like you're allowed to 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:34.780 hunger and thirst for righteousness. Right. It's 00:03:34.780 --> 00:03:37.080 not like it's not Jesus saying, hey, blessed 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.180 are those who are perfect. Right. Yeah. Blessed 00:03:40.180 --> 00:03:41.800 are those that really want this stuff. Right. 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:43.500 So when you were saying like, I don't really 00:03:43.500 --> 00:03:45.939 feel righteous. Jesus is saying, well, that's 00:03:45.939 --> 00:03:50.340 good. Right. If you want that, then. You're golden. 00:03:50.580 --> 00:03:53.159 You're on the right path. Yeah. Yeah. Like a 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.800 recognition of what you need in your longing 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:00.300 for it endlessly. Mm hmm. Yeah. And I think the 00:04:00.300 --> 00:04:02.840 other thing that I was looking up the word itself. 00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.939 Yeah. It's interesting that I feel like it kind 00:04:05.939 --> 00:04:09.460 of it is it does act like this umbrella term 00:04:09.460 --> 00:04:13.400 to the Christian. Well, I guess what Jesus was 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:15.580 talking about in the beginning in those first 00:04:15.580 --> 00:04:19.180 other ones was kind of it capsules all of these 00:04:19.180 --> 00:04:23.279 these virtues or these this this way of being 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.959 that that Christ is calling us into. So it kind 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:29.319 of like it's like it acts like an umbrella, like, 00:04:29.459 --> 00:04:31.120 you know, but in order to understand what it 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.240 means to be righteous, you you need to understand 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:38.779 those other those other qualities. Sure. Yeah. 00:04:39.479 --> 00:04:44.879 Yeah, yeah, so then I feel like we've walked 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:48.079 around a definition Where we've sort of said, 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.740 okay, so it's not something we can get for ourselves 00:04:50.740 --> 00:04:53.319 It's something that we are working towards something 00:04:53.319 --> 00:04:55.600 that we're hoping for but what is this something? 00:04:56.519 --> 00:04:59.360 Yeah, like what what is righteousness? So like 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:04.350 when we look at How this word is used in the 00:05:04.350 --> 00:05:07.449 Old Testament, for example, it's very often paired 00:05:07.449 --> 00:05:11.370 with the concept of justice and this concept 00:05:11.370 --> 00:05:16.670 that It it's really about right Relationships 00:05:16.670 --> 00:05:19.389 in some sense both like like you were saying 00:05:19.389 --> 00:05:22.189 like right relationships with God But then our 00:05:22.189 --> 00:05:25.370 right relationships with God should lead us to 00:05:25.370 --> 00:05:27.870 want also right relationships with other people 00:05:27.870 --> 00:05:32.740 with the rest of creation as well Yeah. So what 00:05:32.740 --> 00:05:36.759 what does that look like then? Well, I could 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:38.920 I could talk a little bit about the words themselves 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.879 in Greek. Righteousness comes from. Well, the 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.540 English word righteousness is the translation 00:05:44.540 --> 00:05:47.600 of the Greek word Ticayasune, right, which could 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.980 be translated justice also. OK. Right. And same 00:05:50.980 --> 00:05:53.639 thing in Hebrew. The Hebrew word is called tzedeka, 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:56.439 which could also be translated justice. Right. 00:05:57.060 --> 00:05:59.000 I think when we hear the word righteousness in 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.519 our kind of religious context, it sounds like 00:06:01.579 --> 00:06:03.819 almost kind of like goodness. Like a righteous 00:06:03.819 --> 00:06:07.279 person is someone who does good things or is 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.980 virtuous or whatever. That's not really the sense 00:06:09.980 --> 00:06:14.300 in the original languages. Right relationship 00:06:14.300 --> 00:06:16.920 is a way to look at it, but it's kind of right 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:24.240 everything. Right? Sin is kind of disorder. Like 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.050 God created the world to be a certain way. Sin 00:06:27.050 --> 00:06:29.310 is sort of rejecting that way and deciding we're 00:06:29.310 --> 00:06:31.490 going to do our own thing. Right. And it's like 00:06:31.490 --> 00:06:35.730 things get off kilter. Right. So whatever you're 00:06:35.730 --> 00:06:37.370 doing, whether you're personally sinning, whether 00:06:37.370 --> 00:06:39.810 you're sinning against other people, you're violating 00:06:39.810 --> 00:06:42.310 sort of the way that the good way that God wanted 00:06:42.310 --> 00:06:45.810 things to be. So establishing righteousness is 00:06:45.810 --> 00:06:48.050 kind of putting things back in order. Right. 00:06:48.269 --> 00:06:50.329 Or setting things, putting things to rights, 00:06:50.410 --> 00:06:56.019 as they would say in Britain. So. So that's kind 00:06:56.019 --> 00:06:59.740 of it. So that fulfills the personal stuff. Like 00:06:59.740 --> 00:07:02.519 if I'm being a jerk to others, if I'm sitting 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:07.019 even in a personal way, I'm violating God's good 00:07:07.019 --> 00:07:09.399 order of things. And also if I'm doing violence 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:11.639 and oppressing other people, that's also not 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.360 God's intention. So when God promises to make 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.800 us righteous, He's going to fix things. Right. 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:19.379 He's going to fix us personally. He's going to 00:07:19.379 --> 00:07:21.000 fix our relationships. He's going to fix our 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.060 relationship with others, with the world, with 00:07:23.060 --> 00:07:26.699 God, God, self. That's what God offers us in 00:07:26.699 --> 00:07:29.519 Christ. Right. Yeah. That kind of righteousness. 00:07:29.980 --> 00:07:34.040 Which then like makes it a really big sort of 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:38.660 all encompassing thing. Yeah. Right. That it's 00:07:38.660 --> 00:07:42.339 it's righteousness. that yeah, I'm hungering 00:07:42.339 --> 00:07:44.199 and thirsting for, I'm yearning for in my personal 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:46.899 life, but also just like in looking at the brokenness 00:07:46.899 --> 00:07:49.639 of the world around me and recognizing stuff 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.300 is not right. Exactly. And I think that kind 00:07:53.300 --> 00:07:56.120 of like as you grow closer to Christ, as you 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.459 grow your relationship with him, I feel like 00:07:58.459 --> 00:08:00.699 your hunger and thirst grows more because you 00:08:00.699 --> 00:08:02.800 start seeing more of the brokenness of the world, 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:05.839 more of the brokenness of yourself as well. And 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:08.699 you're just like. God like just make everything 00:08:08.699 --> 00:08:11.860 good like I can't you know there's so much pain 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:14.360 there's so much hurting there's so much unfairness 00:08:14.360 --> 00:08:17.060 and you kind of just like really want God to 00:08:17.060 --> 00:08:22.000 like make it right a little quicker but of course 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.639 his plan is always the best and I really like 00:08:26.639 --> 00:08:29.100 what Justin said about how righteousness is kind 00:08:29.100 --> 00:08:31.720 of like just everything you know being good because 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.129 I think that's Because God is righteous. He is 00:08:35.129 --> 00:08:37.929 good. He is everything good. And so in a way, 00:08:38.009 --> 00:08:40.470 it's kind of like we're hungering and thirsting 00:08:40.470 --> 00:08:44.629 for God. Yes. Good call. Sorry. No, no, no. Justin 00:08:44.629 --> 00:08:46.450 was really excited about that. That's it. That's 00:08:46.450 --> 00:08:49.289 exactly it. My elbow mic stands when I get excited. 00:08:51.470 --> 00:08:54.330 No, that's that's exactly right. Right. So it's 00:08:54.330 --> 00:08:58.090 and also you want to think about I mean, all 00:08:58.090 --> 00:09:00.210 the beatitudes about this reversal of fortunes, 00:09:00.289 --> 00:09:02.870 right? You think the poor are screwed. You think 00:09:02.870 --> 00:09:04.870 the meek are screwed. Jesus is like, no, no, 00:09:04.870 --> 00:09:06.129 no, those are the people that are going to be 00:09:06.129 --> 00:09:09.529 fine in the end. So you have to ask the question, 00:09:09.529 --> 00:09:11.029 blessed are those who hunger and thirst after 00:09:11.029 --> 00:09:13.590 righteousness, they will be filled. What's the 00:09:13.590 --> 00:09:17.049 incentive to not hunger and thirst after righteousness 00:09:17.049 --> 00:09:20.669 in the current age of the world? There are people 00:09:20.669 --> 00:09:23.850 that benefit from things not being just, from 00:09:23.850 --> 00:09:27.639 things continuing to be out of kilter. Right? 00:09:27.820 --> 00:09:30.080 And Christians or disciples of Jesus are the 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:34.679 ones who who opt out of that system. Right? And 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:39.519 say, I can see in the short term, it would be 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.740 really good for me to violate the rights of others. 00:09:41.860 --> 00:09:44.220 Right. And to look out for number one and to 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:46.980 look after my tribe only and all of those things. 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:50.539 But that's not where things are headed. Ultimately, 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:53.019 where things are headed is the kingdom of God, 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:56.360 in which God's will will actually become real. 00:09:56.700 --> 00:09:59.080 Right. And we'll have equity between peoples 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.159 and there'll be no more oppression, no more tears, 00:10:01.299 --> 00:10:04.799 all of that stuff. And if you sign up for that 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.240 now, again, like we talked about last week, you're 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.100 not going to fit in the system. Right. Which 00:10:10.100 --> 00:10:12.200 is this is all leading up to the final Beatitude, 00:10:12.379 --> 00:10:14.500 which is you're going to get persecuted. Right. 00:10:16.019 --> 00:10:19.559 Right. Preferring justice. Yep. Ticks off oppressors. 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:24.820 Yep. Right? That's a good sentence. Yeah, I like 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:29.320 that. Yes. So there's a cost, right? Sure, totally. 00:10:29.340 --> 00:10:31.379 For these things. Totally. In fact, there's a 00:10:31.379 --> 00:10:33.019 book called The Cost of Discipleship, which I 00:10:33.019 --> 00:10:36.200 recommend by Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Yes, that may 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:38.100 or may not cover this particular topic. That's 00:10:38.100 --> 00:10:45.259 right. Yeah. Yeah, so then... Why hunger and 00:10:45.259 --> 00:10:47.019 thirst for righteousness? If there's gonna be 00:10:47.019 --> 00:10:51.580 a cost, if it's gonna not be great sometimes, 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:54.139 if it's maybe gonna get us killed because it 00:10:54.139 --> 00:10:58.379 got Jesus killed, why do it? It's like there's 00:10:58.379 --> 00:11:00.860 something that Melissa said that got me thinking 00:11:00.860 --> 00:11:05.460 about the perspective and it kind of made me 00:11:05.460 --> 00:11:08.620 think of like when you put on a new pair of glasses 00:11:08.620 --> 00:11:10.620 or when you get in like the right prescription. 00:11:11.230 --> 00:11:15.730 and you're finally able to see properly, see 00:11:15.730 --> 00:11:17.090 everything. Right. I think we kind of talked 00:11:17.090 --> 00:11:19.769 about this last week. And I feel like that's 00:11:19.769 --> 00:11:22.210 what righteousness is. And like if righteousness 00:11:22.210 --> 00:11:25.429 is for us to be righteous or to be considered 00:11:25.429 --> 00:11:28.529 righteous is to have this act of justification 00:11:28.529 --> 00:11:32.190 happen to us where we are made right with God. 00:11:33.429 --> 00:11:35.629 Now is like God giving us these new pair of glasses 00:11:35.629 --> 00:11:38.950 and we can see the world clearly. Right. And 00:11:39.340 --> 00:11:42.080 Once you've seen the world clearly, like, I don't 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.100 know anyone that, well, except for children, 00:11:44.139 --> 00:11:47.440 maybe some children, who refuse to wear their 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:51.259 glasses. But when you know you cannot see, you 00:11:51.259 --> 00:11:54.460 are going to long to correct that vision and 00:11:54.460 --> 00:11:58.740 to come back to the covering or the tool that 00:11:58.740 --> 00:12:02.039 gives you that. And that's what Christ offers. 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.259 Seeing things in not just a new way, but in the 00:12:05.259 --> 00:12:08.080 right way, the way that the world really is. 00:12:09.049 --> 00:12:12.409 the way that injustice really is manifesting 00:12:12.409 --> 00:12:16.450 itself on this planet. But also not just seeing 00:12:16.450 --> 00:12:21.169 all the wrong, but also seeing the goodness and 00:12:21.169 --> 00:12:25.289 the newness and what God is doing and will do 00:12:25.289 --> 00:12:29.929 and can do and wants to do through us and through 00:12:29.929 --> 00:12:32.960 the world. I like that. I like how you kind of 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:34.480 shifted it where we're not just like looking 00:12:34.480 --> 00:12:36.620 at the injustice, but also looking at the good 00:12:36.620 --> 00:12:38.779 in the world because there is good in the world. 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:40.860 There are those moments that you're like, wow, 00:12:40.899 --> 00:12:42.700 this feels really nice. I wish the whole world 00:12:42.700 --> 00:12:44.820 and every single day and second was like this. 00:12:44.980 --> 00:12:47.460 And I think, yeah, like once you get a taste 00:12:47.460 --> 00:12:49.940 of that, you know, that feeling and you get a 00:12:49.940 --> 00:12:51.840 taste of that righteousness through Jesus Christ 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:55.299 as well, you kind of like want more of it in 00:12:55.299 --> 00:12:58.850 a sense. I also will say I like the glasses analogy 00:12:58.850 --> 00:13:00.590 because it's kind of like once you see it, you 00:13:00.590 --> 00:13:03.529 can't unsee it as well. So I just thought that 00:13:03.529 --> 00:13:07.549 was really cool. Hmm. That's a good sentence. 00:13:07.830 --> 00:13:10.750 You can't unsee it. I like that. Jesus, once 00:13:10.750 --> 00:13:15.009 what has been seen cannot be unseen. Yes. OK, 00:13:15.110 --> 00:13:24.409 Trinity Burch. Yeah. I also think, I mean, so 00:13:24.409 --> 00:13:29.110 for people, Created in the image of god and god 00:13:29.110 --> 00:13:34.309 is righteous I think that there's just something 00:13:34.309 --> 00:13:38.070 innate in us that like Can see righteousness 00:13:38.070 --> 00:13:41.330 and just like know that that's the thing. Yeah, 00:13:41.330 --> 00:13:46.090 I think I think it's it's true people know What 00:13:46.090 --> 00:13:50.470 is right? Yeah At least to some extent it's gonna 00:13:50.470 --> 00:13:53.360 be screwed up. Yeah, I think that The challenge 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:57.480 is it sometimes seems not worth it. Yes. Right. 00:13:57.779 --> 00:14:00.139 It's like, yeah, I wish there was a world in 00:14:00.139 --> 00:14:01.820 which everyone was equal and we all loved each 00:14:01.820 --> 00:14:03.100 other and there was no oppressors, but that's 00:14:03.100 --> 00:14:06.440 not realistic. Right. Right. If you can't beat 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:08.399 them, join them. That kind of thing. It's like, 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:10.620 yeah, I want to be I want to live in the real 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:13.200 world. You know, it kind of reminds me. Can I 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:17.419 get political again? Of course. I'm sorry. The 00:14:17.419 --> 00:14:19.220 world is cool. OK, there's lots of different 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:21.440 views, blah, blah, blah. But here's mine. Yep. 00:14:21.610 --> 00:14:26.730 It kind of reminds me of some Christians liking 00:14:26.730 --> 00:14:30.950 Donald Trump because we tried being nice. Yeah. 00:14:31.549 --> 00:14:34.269 What we need is someone to be as big of a jerk 00:14:34.269 --> 00:14:37.090 to our enemies as they've been to us. Right. 00:14:38.309 --> 00:14:42.009 Right. Because it's pie in the sky thinking. 00:14:42.009 --> 00:14:45.409 Yeah. To thinking you can love people into agreement. 00:14:45.590 --> 00:14:48.220 You need a bulldog. Right. Right. And that's 00:14:48.220 --> 00:14:50.480 the temptation. We want goodness. Like, no one's 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.519 like, I want to be a jerk. Right. But they're 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:54.320 just like, hey, you've got to be realistic in 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:57.580 this world. Sometimes you got to not act justly. 00:14:57.580 --> 00:15:00.440 Yeah. To get the good results. And Jesus is like, 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.500 hang on. Have faith. Wait. Be patient. You will 00:15:04.500 --> 00:15:08.480 be filled. Just don't give up on this dream of 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:11.659 justice. Yeah. Yeah, well, and that sort of pairs 00:15:11.659 --> 00:15:13.740 perfectly like with what Rob's preaching about 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:15.820 today, which is this idea of loving your enemies. 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:19.620 And yeah, right. Like Jesus is saying, yeah, 00:15:19.659 --> 00:15:21.440 this is like not what you're going to be tempted 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:26.519 towards. Yeah. But this is the way it seems ridiculous. 00:15:26.539 --> 00:15:29.700 Yeah. Like your enemies trying to destroy you. 00:15:29.740 --> 00:15:33.059 Yeah. Why would you not fight back? Right. You 00:15:33.059 --> 00:15:36.250 know, and Jesus is like, sorry. I just think 00:15:36.250 --> 00:15:39.549 that's so interesting and I love that because 00:15:39.549 --> 00:15:42.750 yeah, you ask yourself like, why would I act 00:15:42.750 --> 00:15:44.970 justly or why would I even pursue righteousness 00:15:44.970 --> 00:15:47.690 if the world isn't doing that to me? And I think 00:15:47.690 --> 00:15:49.809 it's like, you know, when we say like, oh, like 00:15:49.809 --> 00:15:52.769 we forgive because Jesus forgave us. It's kind 00:15:52.769 --> 00:15:54.929 of like we hunger and thirst for righteousness 00:15:54.929 --> 00:15:57.450 because Jesus hungers and thirst for righteousness. 00:15:57.549 --> 00:16:00.429 And it's ultimately his thirst for that, which 00:16:00.429 --> 00:16:02.659 led him to the cross because he could have. fought 00:16:02.659 --> 00:16:04.559 back at any point and been like, actually, I 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:07.779 don't want to do this. All of you can be damned 00:16:07.779 --> 00:16:10.059 to hell because like it's not my problem. But 00:16:10.059 --> 00:16:12.220 no, he actively took it on. He didn't fight back. 00:16:12.220 --> 00:16:14.379 So it's kind of like now that we're saying we're 00:16:14.379 --> 00:16:16.860 following Christ, we're imitating him. We have 00:16:16.860 --> 00:16:20.110 to kind of be like. He hungered and thirsted 00:16:20.110 --> 00:16:22.049 for righteousness for me, so I will hunger and 00:16:22.049 --> 00:16:24.730 thirst for righteousness for other people. But 00:16:24.730 --> 00:16:27.070 it's really hard to kind of choose that path 00:16:27.070 --> 00:16:29.750 though. And he like hungered and thirsted for 00:16:29.750 --> 00:16:32.049 it like to the point of death. Exactly, yeah. 00:16:32.250 --> 00:16:35.309 Because he trusted God to do that for him. It's 00:16:35.309 --> 00:16:37.870 like when Peter took out his sword to take out 00:16:37.870 --> 00:16:40.639 the people arresting Jesus. And Jesus is like, 00:16:40.779 --> 00:16:42.419 don't do this, right? You live by the sword, 00:16:42.500 --> 00:16:46.460 you die by the sword. I could call 10 ,000 angels 00:16:46.460 --> 00:16:48.360 if I wanted to, but I'm not going to do that, 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:50.259 right? Because I'm trusting God to bring this 00:16:50.259 --> 00:16:53.139 about. Yeah. It's got me thinking of the mode. 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.799 I know Rob talked about non -violence today, 00:16:56.980 --> 00:17:00.740 and I'm confident everyone's brain is going all 00:17:00.740 --> 00:17:04.819 over the place in that conversation. But yeah, 00:17:04.819 --> 00:17:09.519 like even within our current climate where there 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:13.740 are a lot of Christians who their mode of, I 00:17:13.740 --> 00:17:17.319 guess, what they think is being hungry and thirsting 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.539 for righteousness is very aggressive, very like 00:17:21.539 --> 00:17:25.099 take the bull by its horn and just go at it. 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:28.579 And yeah, like they're like Peter, just chopping 00:17:28.579 --> 00:17:31.000 off ears, slicing them left, right and center. 00:17:31.619 --> 00:17:36.000 And that is That is not what God is calling us 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.960 into. We're going to look at what is that posture 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:40.900 that we take in order to truly hunger and thirst, 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:43.980 like longing for the kingdom. And I get it. Like 00:17:43.980 --> 00:17:47.140 when you know, at least when you perceive that 00:17:47.140 --> 00:17:53.140 you have worn the glasses. Like you want, I've 00:17:53.140 --> 00:17:55.680 seen that a lot with like new Christians who 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:00.640 maybe the when you come into it, now everyone 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.259 around you is not. They're not seeing the world 00:18:03.259 --> 00:18:06.220 like you anymore. So now I need to I want to 00:18:06.220 --> 00:18:08.960 get them to, you know, figure it out. Yeah, like 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.660 come to Jesus. Don't you see this is the way 00:18:11.660 --> 00:18:15.299 and it becomes it becomes repulsive to many people. 00:18:16.220 --> 00:18:20.299 And in its extreme form, it can be very coercive. 00:18:20.460 --> 00:18:24.519 Yeah. Yeah. And dangerous. So like the mode and 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.980 Jesus is calling us into is it gets us back to 00:18:27.980 --> 00:18:33.130 those other Beatitudes and It reminds us that 00:18:33.130 --> 00:18:36.710 God did it anyway, right? He covered us anyway, 00:18:36.809 --> 00:18:41.069 even when we were in opposition to Him and would 00:18:41.069 --> 00:18:43.609 do it again and again and again and again, not 00:18:43.609 --> 00:18:45.529 because we figured it out as soon as He said 00:18:45.529 --> 00:18:51.049 it, but because He loves us. And that is, you 00:18:51.049 --> 00:18:54.529 can't force people to do that. Yeah, yeah. And 00:18:54.529 --> 00:18:57.960 I think that... sort of takes me back to one 00:18:57.960 --> 00:18:59.740 of the places that we started which was like 00:18:59.740 --> 00:19:01.940 that we don't actually have the righteousness 00:19:01.940 --> 00:19:05.859 and so like as hard as I might try like I can't 00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:10.200 actually force it right like I can't I can't 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.680 I just like can't set things right and I can't 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:16.619 make people see it in a particular way um it 00:19:16.619 --> 00:19:18.960 has to come from God yeah well that's the point 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:22.119 of the they will be filled right passive construction 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.680 right that's something in Greek and Hebrew called 00:19:24.680 --> 00:19:27.970 a divine passive Because they don't want to say 00:19:27.970 --> 00:19:30.410 God's name. So you put it in a passive construction. 00:19:30.529 --> 00:19:32.690 You will be filled really means God will fill 00:19:32.690 --> 00:19:37.190 you up. Love that. That's cool. And I think it's 00:19:37.190 --> 00:19:39.109 like, you know, even just like the conversation 00:19:39.109 --> 00:19:41.309 about today's current political climate, there 00:19:41.309 --> 00:19:44.069 are a lot of Christians who are kind of like 00:19:44.069 --> 00:19:46.849 rooting for, you know, the bad things to happen 00:19:46.849 --> 00:19:48.309 to people and they kind of want to see that. 00:19:48.329 --> 00:19:51.339 So sometimes it's like. Are we hungering and 00:19:51.339 --> 00:19:53.579 thirsting for righteousness? Are you hungering 00:19:53.579 --> 00:19:56.559 and thirsting for vengeance? And I think sometimes 00:19:56.559 --> 00:19:58.900 like we do get filled with anger and we kind 00:19:58.900 --> 00:20:01.279 of rely on ourselves and those feelings instead 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.720 of giving it to God and we're like actually God 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:06.319 like I want to see that group of people or that 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:09.099 person Go through really really negative things 00:20:09.099 --> 00:20:11.859 because of XYZ and it's like well, that's not 00:20:11.859 --> 00:20:15.059 righteousness. That is vengeance Also, I don't 00:20:15.059 --> 00:20:18.099 think hungering is the right term back I don't 00:20:18.099 --> 00:20:22.039 know what the term is, so. Okay. Starving. No. 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:23.400 Oh, yeah. I don't know, I'm just saying. I'm 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:26.940 just pushing it. I'm pushing the envelope. Yeah, 00:20:26.980 --> 00:20:31.920 there was an article I read that says a better 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:33.900 translation for this might be, blessed are those 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:37.079 who are starved for justice, which I think is 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.259 an interesting way of putting it. Like, I think 00:20:39.259 --> 00:20:43.859 the hunger and thirst of this feels really interesting 00:20:43.859 --> 00:20:47.809 to me because... I mean, generally speaking, 00:20:48.190 --> 00:20:51.130 like, we all know what it feels like to be hungry 00:20:51.130 --> 00:20:53.910 or to be thirsty. Now, there are different extremes 00:20:53.910 --> 00:20:55.690 of that that we may or may not be able to sort 00:20:55.690 --> 00:21:00.069 of feel. But we know, right? Like, I know I have 00:21:00.069 --> 00:21:03.069 been hungry and I, like, want a particular thing 00:21:03.069 --> 00:21:05.869 or even maybe not a particular thing, just something, 00:21:06.269 --> 00:21:11.390 right? And so there's this, like, it's a very 00:21:11.390 --> 00:21:17.200 bodily state. And I think that There is a sense 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:21.400 in which When you put the glasses on when you 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.819 like see the world as it is And how it could 00:21:25.819 --> 00:21:30.779 be it can become a sort of bodily state of like 00:21:30.779 --> 00:21:34.859 yearning for Righteousness. Yeah in the very 00:21:34.859 --> 00:21:37.980 same way that we yearn for food and water We 00:21:37.980 --> 00:21:43.180 can yearn for like God to do something Yeah with 00:21:43.180 --> 00:21:48.720 the trust that he will do it yes yes yes um like 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:50.680 that that uh i always think of martin luther 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:52.960 king right where he's like i'm working really 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:55.279 hard i'm being i'm doing my non -violent resistance 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:59.200 thing yeah but i know we're gonna win right right 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.859 yeah the arc of uh history you know bends towards 00:22:01.859 --> 00:22:05.180 justice right god's gonna do it yeah um and that's 00:22:05.180 --> 00:22:09.420 gonna dictate it's like a confident non -violence 00:22:09.420 --> 00:22:13.099 yeah right not a resignation Yeah, yeah. It's 00:22:13.099 --> 00:22:15.599 not we're choosing the way of nonviolence because 00:22:15.599 --> 00:22:17.779 I just don't feel like being aggressive or because 00:22:17.779 --> 00:22:19.420 that's dangerous or whatever. It's like, no, 00:22:19.500 --> 00:22:21.799 this is I'm choosing this way because this is 00:22:21.799 --> 00:22:24.099 actually the way to victory. Yeah, I'm bearing 00:22:24.099 --> 00:22:26.720 witness to the victory that God will eventually 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.839 bring. Yeah. By being unworried and unhurried 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:33.960 about. Yeah. About having to win now. Yeah. At 00:22:33.960 --> 00:22:36.420 all costs. Yeah. And it's like, do you want like 00:22:36.420 --> 00:22:39.559 a manmade human victory or do you want to? Do 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:41.579 you want like a god victory, right? Which is 00:22:41.579 --> 00:22:43.700 ultimately gonna be better than anything humans 00:22:43.700 --> 00:22:46.559 can ever make so it When you put it in that frame, 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:48.900 like, then yeah, choosing, you know, the way 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:50.640 of righteousness, hungering and thirsting for 00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:52.839 that is ultimately going to lead you to a greater, 00:22:53.059 --> 00:22:56.220 better victory. It's just, I think it really 00:22:56.220 --> 00:22:59.400 is that trusting that God will do it. And sometimes, 00:22:59.400 --> 00:23:02.579 you know, God, he has his own timeline, but then 00:23:02.579 --> 00:23:04.740 humans were like, actually, can you do it tomorrow? 00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:08.200 So it can be a little hard. And I think there's 00:23:08.200 --> 00:23:10.380 a lot of surrendering to that as well. Totally. 00:23:11.339 --> 00:23:16.380 Yeah. It's reminding me of the scripture that 00:23:16.380 --> 00:23:18.240 talks about where you build your house, building 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:24.519 on the sand, where you building it. And yeah, 00:23:24.619 --> 00:23:27.559 like there's like, we could put our, we could 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:31.220 use today and take our might and make all kinds 00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:34.019 of things happen and fill that, like that there's 00:23:34.019 --> 00:23:37.670 like, My siblings, I have young siblings, they're 00:23:37.670 --> 00:23:39.269 children, so maybe that's why I talk about children 00:23:39.269 --> 00:23:42.769 this way, but they'll be like, they're thirsty 00:23:42.769 --> 00:23:46.410 and they're like, I want juice. I want pop. Nah, 00:23:46.609 --> 00:23:48.450 that's not gonna actually, that's gonna help 00:23:48.450 --> 00:23:51.809 you now, but is it gonna help you like maybe 00:23:51.809 --> 00:23:54.630 an hour down the road? You're gonna be more thirsty, 00:23:54.869 --> 00:23:58.990 because it's going to dehydrate you. So what 00:23:58.990 --> 00:24:01.789 you really should, what we should long for is 00:24:01.789 --> 00:24:05.319 the source. the actual thing that will save us. 00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:08.099 And that is, in Christ, that's building something 00:24:08.099 --> 00:24:12.460 that will last. I'm using all these different 00:24:12.460 --> 00:24:16.559 analogies, so go with me. But it actually means 00:24:16.559 --> 00:24:20.279 nothing. Yes, you can fight a war today and win 00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:24.220 the battle today, but I guarantee you that you'll 00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:26.980 probably be fighting another battle. But what 00:24:26.980 --> 00:24:29.799 we really could do is put our trust in God and 00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:35.670 win the war. takes time, but we will see the 00:24:35.670 --> 00:24:39.329 fruits. We will see the benefits in this lifetime 00:24:39.329 --> 00:24:41.900 and in the ones to come. Britt, you're killing 00:24:41.900 --> 00:24:44.700 it with the analogies. I'm just taking so much 00:24:44.700 --> 00:24:47.359 of them. Like we're building, we're wearing glasses, 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:50.519 we're drinking water. This sounds healthy. It 00:24:50.519 --> 00:24:54.700 does. Sounds like a pretty good life. There's 00:24:54.700 --> 00:24:57.400 also that scripture from when Jesus, he's at 00:24:57.400 --> 00:24:59.940 the well and the Samaritan woman, she comes and 00:24:59.940 --> 00:25:03.660 she wants to get water. Then Jesus says, I'm 00:25:03.660 --> 00:25:05.220 not going to quote the exact scripture because 00:25:05.220 --> 00:25:07.619 I do not have it memorized, but he says, you 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:09.440 know, ultimately I can give you a water where 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.859 you'll never thirst. again. Right. You know, 00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:13.980 the fresh spring which is Jesus. So I think, 00:25:14.900 --> 00:25:18.839 I feel, this is my personal opinion, but that 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.880 every single person deep inside of us has a thirst 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:24.940 for Jesus. We sometimes just don't know what 00:25:24.940 --> 00:25:27.700 it is and we replace it because ultimately we 00:25:27.700 --> 00:25:29.779 are looking for that satisfaction. We can only 00:25:29.779 --> 00:25:33.319 get it from Jesus who can give us water that 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.660 we'll never be thirsty again. Yeah, totally. 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:41.910 So, Yeah, we hunger and thirst for righteousness. 00:25:42.750 --> 00:25:44.549 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, 00:25:44.789 --> 00:25:48.369 for they will be filled. And Justin, you sort 00:25:48.369 --> 00:25:49.829 of already said, you know, that they will be 00:25:49.829 --> 00:25:54.049 filled. God is the one doing the filling. But 00:25:54.049 --> 00:25:58.750 what does that look like? And like, are we filled 00:25:58.750 --> 00:26:03.269 immediately? Are we filled? Do we have to take 00:26:03.269 --> 00:26:05.829 a long view here? Like, how does this? It's both. 00:26:06.150 --> 00:26:11.210 OK. It's both. Right. So the other Martin Luther, 00:26:12.089 --> 00:26:15.250 Martin Luther. Yes. It was famous. Yeah, a guy 00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:18.190 from the 16th century who was famous for saying 00:26:18.190 --> 00:26:22.210 we're justified by faith. Yeah. Alone. Yes. It's 00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:25.869 controversial. But justification is another translation 00:26:25.869 --> 00:26:28.289 of dekayasune, which is righteousness. So the 00:26:28.289 --> 00:26:31.329 righteous. Righteousification is another way 00:26:31.329 --> 00:26:35.269 to do that. You get right. Why? Do you need faith? 00:26:35.390 --> 00:26:37.809 Why is faith the thing? Because you have to believe 00:26:37.809 --> 00:26:40.549 against all odds. It looks like evil's winning. 00:26:40.750 --> 00:26:43.009 You got to live your life as if God has already 00:26:43.009 --> 00:26:46.849 won. Yeah. Right. And if you do that, Paul says 00:26:46.849 --> 00:26:50.210 you get to be counted righteous now, even though 00:26:50.210 --> 00:26:52.650 you're waiting. So it's this weird kind of ahead 00:26:52.650 --> 00:26:54.430 of schedule thing. And there's all sorts of reasons 00:26:54.430 --> 00:26:57.309 why having to do with the resurrection that works. 00:26:57.950 --> 00:27:00.390 But it's both right. You get to be counted righteous 00:27:00.390 --> 00:27:05.309 now. as a living witness to the kingdom that's 00:27:05.309 --> 00:27:09.589 about to dawn on everyone. So you're waiting, 00:27:09.849 --> 00:27:11.430 but you already have what you're waiting for. 00:27:12.109 --> 00:27:14.450 Yes, this feels very confusing. In a weird kind 00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:19.710 of way. Well, that's why Luther was very controversial 00:27:19.710 --> 00:27:22.049 in his day, because everyone was like, yeah, 00:27:22.210 --> 00:27:24.529 if you play your cards right and you live righteously 00:27:24.529 --> 00:27:27.109 and you do the right things. Some people said 00:27:27.109 --> 00:27:31.349 this. Then you get righteousness at the end. 00:27:31.789 --> 00:27:35.269 Uh -huh. Right? In Paul's day, too, a lot of 00:27:35.269 --> 00:27:36.750 the rabbis were saying this sort of thing. Everyone 00:27:36.750 --> 00:27:38.910 said, yeah, of course, you get justified at the 00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:40.769 end. And Paul's like, no, no, you can be called 00:27:40.769 --> 00:27:43.930 righteous now. Right. In anticipation. And that 00:27:43.930 --> 00:27:48.450 was this kind of weird, like, hungering and thirsting. 00:27:48.549 --> 00:27:50.990 You'll be filled for righteousness. You'll be 00:27:50.990 --> 00:27:52.789 filled in the future. But you can also be filled 00:27:52.789 --> 00:27:56.190 now in the very act of following Jesus. Right. 00:27:56.569 --> 00:27:59.619 Yes. And that comes through faith. Yeah, because 00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:02.960 it's a future thing. Yes. Right. You got to believe, 00:28:03.059 --> 00:28:11.759 as Ted Lasso says. So. But then. Like, yes, so 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:13.859 you're declared righteous, you're filled now, 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:18.180 but like, what does that change? Does it? Because 00:28:18.180 --> 00:28:22.420 I don't think that it changes your circumstances 00:28:22.420 --> 00:28:26.170 necessarily. I don't think it changes. Sometimes 00:28:26.170 --> 00:28:29.410 it does. Sure. Right? I mean, it's like Jesus's 00:28:29.410 --> 00:28:32.269 healings. Right. Right? Every single person that 00:28:32.269 --> 00:28:36.490 Jesus healed, including Lazarus, died. Yes. Right? 00:28:36.990 --> 00:28:39.329 But that doesn't negate the goodness and the 00:28:39.329 --> 00:28:42.410 witness of healing in those moments. Right. Right? 00:28:42.569 --> 00:28:44.829 You don't sort of just stop. He was like, I'm 00:28:44.829 --> 00:28:47.309 still going to act for the good. I'm still going 00:28:47.309 --> 00:28:50.319 to do this. But not... with some kind of crazy 00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:53.019 pipe dream that I am building a utopia on earth 00:28:53.019 --> 00:28:55.079 by doing that. Right. I'm doing all these things 00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.700 as an act of witness, as a referral to the promise 00:28:58.700 --> 00:29:01.099 of God to do these things. Right. So it's not 00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:03.759 quietism. It's not like God's going to sort everything 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:05.779 out so I can just opt out and not care about 00:29:05.779 --> 00:29:07.940 justice and be quiet when there's oppression 00:29:07.940 --> 00:29:10.420 going on. Yeah. But it's like it changes your 00:29:10.420 --> 00:29:12.599 perspective with your glasses. Right. You do 00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.380 it for a different reason. And I feel like I 00:29:17.380 --> 00:29:19.200 like how you said how technically like yeah like 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.460 we're still you know hungry and thirsting for 00:29:21.460 --> 00:29:24.220 righteous and at the same time we are righteous 00:29:24.220 --> 00:29:27.519 too in anticipation of what's to come but I think 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.940 even just if we focus on the part that you know 00:29:30.539 --> 00:29:33.240 Got Jesus hasn't come back the second time the 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.500 world is still broken It's sometimes it's like 00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:38.859 we have to choose to stay in that state of like 00:29:38.859 --> 00:29:41.680 hunger and thirsting as well It's like, you know, 00:29:41.740 --> 00:29:43.579 if we're looking at from like a starvation point 00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:46.599 of view We're making the active choice of I will 00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:48.880 not opt out I will look at the world and I will 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.440 actively choose to kind of like starve for the 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:54.160 goodness That Jesus will bring to the world one 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:56.400 day. So I think it is an active choice and I 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.920 think it changes I don't know what it changes, 00:29:59.160 --> 00:30:01.400 but I feel like it does change, you know, the 00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:02.880 way you look at the world, the way you live your 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.680 life. Sure. It changes your posture. Yeah, yeah, 00:30:06.700 --> 00:30:15.660 exactly. Yeah. Right on. So then, we're filled 00:30:15.660 --> 00:30:21.700 now, and that filling comes ultimately from God. 00:30:22.579 --> 00:30:27.119 So what then is our role? What does it, like, 00:30:27.140 --> 00:30:28.799 so you said, you know, it changes our posture. 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.859 We don't get to opt out. We don't get to do quietism. 00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:36.359 So like, what does that look like? That's a good 00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.940 question. Yeah. Both the hungering and the thirsting 00:30:38.940 --> 00:30:41.799 and the filling. Like, dude, God does the filling. 00:30:41.819 --> 00:30:44.660 Do we participate in filling somehow or is that 00:30:44.660 --> 00:30:47.160 all God? I don't know. This is now a lot of questions, 00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:50.160 but I would say the filling is all God because 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.319 righteousness. It's not something that we can 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.539 attain from the things that we do. It's something 00:30:54.539 --> 00:31:00.619 that is gifted to us through Christ. When God 00:31:00.619 --> 00:31:03.319 sees us because of Christ and because of the 00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:05.279 sacrifice that Christ has made, we're covered 00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.960 in that. So God only sees, God the Father would 00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:14.200 only see what Christ has gifted us. Here we go, 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:20.170 Trinity. What we've been gifted with. Righteousness 00:31:20.170 --> 00:31:23.210 is not something of our own doing. So that feeling 00:31:23.210 --> 00:31:27.049 has to come from from God. I think what's interesting, 00:31:27.170 --> 00:31:28.710 though, is like, what does it what does it mean 00:31:28.710 --> 00:31:31.369 for us to what does that what does it mean to 00:31:31.369 --> 00:31:34.130 hunger and thirst like in its like in today? 00:31:34.309 --> 00:31:36.150 Like, I think that's probably the lens, like 00:31:36.150 --> 00:31:38.309 where it gets into. What does it mean for us 00:31:38.309 --> 00:31:42.349 in our activity? Because if it's not a passive 00:31:42.349 --> 00:31:47.049 thing. If it's not quietism, then what does that 00:31:47.049 --> 00:31:49.369 actually look like? But I think if we insert 00:31:49.369 --> 00:31:55.190 the word justice and equity, which are all rightly 00:31:55.190 --> 00:31:58.130 positioned within the term righteousness, then 00:31:58.130 --> 00:32:02.349 I think it gives us a perspective on how we act. 00:32:03.990 --> 00:32:05.650 And like hungering and thirsting is not just 00:32:05.650 --> 00:32:09.470 being, if you're angry in a corner, like hungry, 00:32:09.609 --> 00:32:12.279 if you're hangry, You're not hungry. They're 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.380 saying they're going to be angry for righteousness. 00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.160 But actually, OK, I don't know. Like when I think 00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.740 about being hangry, I am like the worst person 00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:28.240 in the world. So maybe I'm not. Maybe it's not 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:34.819 being hangry. But but it is it is this this bent 00:32:34.819 --> 00:32:38.400 that we're having like we. this focus on seeing 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.359 what's wrong, but also recognizing what God can 00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.460 do through you to make it right, to usher in 00:32:44.460 --> 00:32:49.180 that kingdom. I feel like, you know, like what 00:32:49.180 --> 00:32:50.839 Justin was saying earlier, how righteousness 00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.960 is like, you know, goodness, it's all encompassing 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.319 goodness. So if we are already, you know, in 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.119 the future, we are made righteous through Jesus 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.400 Christ, then that means that we've received a 00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:06.509 goodness and ultimately Now we can kind of share 00:33:06.509 --> 00:33:08.930 that goodness with the rest of the world as well. 00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:11.589 So maybe that's a way that we can play that role. 00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:14.690 I mean, there's some theologians who've talked 00:33:14.690 --> 00:33:17.150 about how the church is supposed to be this kind 00:33:17.150 --> 00:33:19.470 of image of the kingdom ahead of schedule. So 00:33:19.470 --> 00:33:22.529 if you come to church, you should be you should 00:33:22.529 --> 00:33:24.650 feel like in a weird way, you're entering a different 00:33:24.650 --> 00:33:27.990 kind of world. Right. You come to church and 00:33:27.990 --> 00:33:29.690 people are loving each other, even though they're 00:33:29.690 --> 00:33:32.559 really different from each other. Right. you're 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.720 helping poor people instead of stomping on them. 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.099 You know, um, there's a theologian called Stanley 00:33:38.099 --> 00:33:39.920 hours that talks about this a lot, you know, 00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:42.220 that the church is this kind of counter narrative, 00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:44.759 right? The world operates according to a whole 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.819 set of rules. You come to church and you see 00:33:46.819 --> 00:33:49.599 it operating by different rules, kingdom rules, 00:33:49.660 --> 00:33:51.920 right? Right. And that's one of those sort of 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:53.900 practical things you can do. We're setting up 00:33:53.900 --> 00:33:56.940 kind of an outpost of what the future kingdom 00:33:56.940 --> 00:34:00.359 will be like now. in the christian community 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.700 yeah right it's not always like that sure but 00:34:02.700 --> 00:34:06.119 that's our that's our charge yeah yeah yeah yeah 00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:08.119 that's really cool i've never thought of it that 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:14.719 way but that's really cool yeah and i think like 00:34:14.719 --> 00:34:16.860 yes like like you said this is what it should 00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:18.260 be it's not all we're not saying that's what 00:34:18.260 --> 00:34:21.739 it always is yeah we're still broken people who 00:34:21.739 --> 00:34:25.760 mess this up um but having that positive vision 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:29.159 having that goal of like yeah it's a sense of 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:30.940 what we're working towards and not just what 00:34:30.940 --> 00:34:33.559 we're trying not to be. Yes. And you're doing 00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.940 that as the church in the world. Right. So it's 00:34:36.940 --> 00:34:38.320 not like we're just going to create our little 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:40.780 monastery and do things differently here. You're 00:34:40.780 --> 00:34:43.159 doing it in the middle of the city, in the middle 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.019 of the village for everyone else, too. It's a 00:34:46.019 --> 00:34:49.460 form of witness and you spill over. Right. Right. 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.880 Christians can be involved in politics, for example. 00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.159 But you're doing it. as a citizen of another 00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:59.300 kingdom, as Philippians says. Right. Yeah. I 00:34:59.300 --> 00:35:01.960 think something else, too, that is I want to 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:04.360 bring up the fact that, you know, righteousness, 00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.019 even though we are hungering and thirsting for 00:35:07.019 --> 00:35:09.199 it, but if we look at the perspective of we already 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.820 have righteousness in a way, it's like that's 00:35:11.820 --> 00:35:14.000 that's a gift from Jesus. You know, it doesn't 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.400 matter how much good you do in the world. That's 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.800 not what's going to ultimately. get you the righteousness 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:23.159 of God. It is a gift, it is something that you 00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.360 accept. So I guess it's like, what do you do 00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:28.639 with that accepting of the fact that I didn't 00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:31.559 do anything to deserve God's goodness, yet he 00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.139 has freely given it to me. And I guess it's like, 00:35:35.219 --> 00:35:37.199 yeah, how do you take that into the world? Maybe 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.519 that's when you freely give it to the world because 00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.500 you've been giving a gift. So then you want to 00:35:41.500 --> 00:35:44.280 give it to other people, too. Yeah, totally. 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.829 So I think I want to... bringing us back to the 00:35:48.829 --> 00:35:52.429 context of the Beatitudes as a whole, and how 00:35:52.429 --> 00:35:56.210 this fits in what we've talked about so far. 00:35:56.510 --> 00:35:57.869 And the thing that just stands out to me from 00:35:57.869 --> 00:36:01.010 what you just said, Melissa, was, yeah, that 00:36:01.010 --> 00:36:06.070 we don't have to, like, hunger and thirst for 00:36:06.070 --> 00:36:09.650 righteousness, like, out of our own, like, Sense 00:36:09.650 --> 00:36:13.210 of like desperation her own sense of like I need 00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:17.250 to like get towards this thing to the goal whatever 00:36:17.250 --> 00:36:20.909 Which then I think pairs well with what we had 00:36:20.909 --> 00:36:23.210 talked about before I think particularly around 00:36:23.210 --> 00:36:25.769 the idea of morning like we said like you don't 00:36:25.769 --> 00:36:28.530 need to go out there to like find the morning 00:36:28.530 --> 00:36:32.110 You don't need to try and be a really sad person. 00:36:32.110 --> 00:36:40.079 No, it comes very easily Yeah, so again, none 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:42.679 of these things, the poor in spirit, the mourning, 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.340 the meek, this hungering and thirsting for righteousness, 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.820 they're not things that we need to strive for. 00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:51.619 They're things that come naturally to us. They're 00:36:51.619 --> 00:36:56.500 things that come as a result of seeing a broken 00:36:56.500 --> 00:37:01.570 world, I think. Yep, they are indications of 00:37:01.570 --> 00:37:05.210 blessedness. Right? You're looking for signs 00:37:05.210 --> 00:37:08.949 and indications, right? Because, you know, beatitude 00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:12.809 means blessed, right? Or happy, right? So how 00:37:12.809 --> 00:37:14.849 do you tell when someone's blessed? Well, if 00:37:14.849 --> 00:37:17.230 you find someone poor in spirit, they're probably 00:37:17.230 --> 00:37:20.030 blessed. If you find someone meek, the likelihood 00:37:20.030 --> 00:37:21.289 is they're going to be blessed. And if they're 00:37:21.289 --> 00:37:23.289 these things and they're following Jesus Christ, 00:37:23.329 --> 00:37:30.690 then they're mega blessed. Yes, are there other 00:37:30.690 --> 00:37:33.309 correlations other sort of links that we see 00:37:33.309 --> 00:37:35.550 between this hungering and thirsting for righteousness 00:37:35.550 --> 00:37:38.989 and some of these other Beatitudes that we've 00:37:38.989 --> 00:37:43.010 chatted about I mean, I think you you reminded 00:37:43.010 --> 00:37:44.929 me of something of like how you know we're not 00:37:44.929 --> 00:37:46.909 we don't go find the morning the morning will 00:37:46.909 --> 00:37:49.969 find us and we will mourn and just as the world 00:37:49.969 --> 00:37:52.989 is broken, but we ourselves are also broken too. 00:37:53.050 --> 00:37:54.929 Like we are all sinners. We're all going through 00:37:54.929 --> 00:37:57.070 things. We all come with our own baggage that 00:37:57.070 --> 00:38:00.829 impacts how we live our life. And I think that 00:38:00.829 --> 00:38:04.869 ultimately like because of that, it's like that's 00:38:04.869 --> 00:38:06.869 also why we hunger and thirst for righteousness, 00:38:07.130 --> 00:38:09.309 for goodness, for Jesus to come back and kind 00:38:09.309 --> 00:38:11.650 of make things okay again, because we are hungering 00:38:11.650 --> 00:38:14.170 and thirsting for ourselves too, because We are 00:38:14.170 --> 00:38:16.489 people who mourn. We are people who can be poor 00:38:16.489 --> 00:38:18.949 in spirit. We are people who are meek. We are 00:38:18.949 --> 00:38:21.570 people who are just sinners and we are limited 00:38:21.570 --> 00:38:26.389 and we need God. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think 00:38:26.389 --> 00:38:29.670 it's the red thread for me is the theme of reversal. 00:38:30.090 --> 00:38:32.309 Yeah. Right. There's debates. Are these rewards 00:38:32.309 --> 00:38:35.030 or are they reversals? And I'm team reversal. 00:38:35.409 --> 00:38:39.530 Right. God, this list of things is not God will 00:38:39.530 --> 00:38:42.710 reward you if you act this way. Right. It's saying 00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.360 the circumstances that you're in are unlikely 00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.960 indicators of you actually being blessed. Right. 00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.760 Right. And yeah, I think that's what guides them 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:59.920 all. Yeah. Yeah. So, to sort of bring it all 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:03.860 together, Jesus has said, blessed are those who 00:39:03.860 --> 00:39:06.699 hunger and thirst for righteousness. Blessed 00:39:06.699 --> 00:39:10.159 are the people who are seeking justice, the people 00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:14.130 who have put on this new pair of glasses and 00:39:14.130 --> 00:39:16.769 have said this is the way the world should be 00:39:16.769 --> 00:39:21.449 and I'm gonna strive for it and they will be 00:39:21.449 --> 00:39:26.349 filled. God will give you this righteousness 00:39:26.349 --> 00:39:29.469 now. Yeah, and ultimately like it's coming for 00:39:29.469 --> 00:39:32.849 all of us in like a nice way. Not in like a it's 00:39:32.849 --> 00:39:35.269 coming for you kind of way. Just like it's coming. 00:39:36.030 --> 00:39:38.769 And with Britt's other analogy too, it's we are 00:39:38.769 --> 00:39:40.829 choosing the water instead of the pop and the 00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:43.710 juice. Right. Yes. If you're listening kids, 00:39:43.769 --> 00:39:47.570 if you're listening, don't drink pop. Choose 00:39:47.570 --> 00:39:49.469 the water. Choose the water. Choose the water. 00:39:49.829 --> 00:39:53.789 The good way. Yes. For the purposes of this conversation, 00:39:53.929 --> 00:39:59.530 yes, I agree. I'm an advocate of water for everyone. 00:39:59.750 --> 00:40:04.090 Drink your leader. Well, thank you so much, folks. 00:40:04.789 --> 00:40:07.769 Yeah, I think this has been really helpful to 00:40:07.769 --> 00:40:09.829 unpack righteousness, but then to also just like 00:40:09.829 --> 00:40:12.610 put it in this context of like, yeah, how we 00:40:12.610 --> 00:40:15.389 live in the world, the good gifts that God has 00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:18.510 given us and the good gifts that we have to look 00:40:18.510 --> 00:40:23.869 forward to that we will be filled. Yes. Nice. 00:40:24.250 --> 00:40:26.889 Yeah. Appreciate the conversation fellow kids. 00:40:28.619 --> 00:40:33.039 Thank you. I will forever be a child. But we 00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:35.960 are supposed to have the faith of children. There 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.179 you go. And we're all young people, so it's easy 00:40:39.179 --> 00:40:43.619 for us to understand. And thank you for tuning 00:40:43.619 --> 00:40:46.300 in to this week's episode of Trinity Talks. I 00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:48.420 hope it's been helpful for you as you figure 00:40:48.420 --> 00:40:51.099 out what it looks like to hunger and thirst for 00:40:51.099 --> 00:40:54.420 righteousness, for justice in your life and in 00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:56.780 the life of the community in which you find yourself. 00:40:57.050 --> 00:40:58.530 and we'll see you again next week.