Hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode
of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla. I'm Melissa.
I'm Britton. I am Justin. And this week we are
continuing our series on the Sermon on the Mount,
specifically looking at the Beatitudes. And we're
continuing to talk about the Beatitudes. We've
done this for a couple of weeks already, started
by, let's see if I can remember them now. Blessed
are the poor in spirit, and blessed are those
who mourn. And now we're at number three, which
is blessed are the meek, for they will inherit
the earth. And meek, I don't know about you guys,
but that is not a part of my normal vocabulary.
You don't use it all the time? No, no. Unless
I'm talking about meek mills. Oh, right. Which
is the person I talk about every day. Yeah, it
comes up a lot. Of course, yes. OK, so because
this is a weird word that we don't use all the
time, we should probably start by figuring out
what it means. So when you hear the word meek,
what do you think of? So this Beatitude is actually
one of my favorite Beatitudes because I think
it's really cool where like when I think of Meek,
I do think of someone who is humble, someone
who isn't going to like fight to get to the top
and in that like take other people down. I think
it's but it's actual definition. I do not know.
OK, OK. What about you folks? What do you think
of when you hear Meek? like a children's hymn
that talks about like being like Jesus is meek
and mild. I can't remember the name, how the
tune of it goes, but think about this posture
of like just being very gentle, almost like,
almost like you could be trampled on and you'll
just let it happen. That's my raw definition.
Okay, okay. What about you Justin? Yeah, I think
it's got negative connotations. I watched this
documentary on Netflix about some fundamentalist
cult. Okay. And it was all about the women being,
like, meek and gentle and stuff. Yeah, just kind
of sweet and meek. Yeah, like a pushover. Okay.
Yes. But also, I think, like, what you were saying
was, like, the humility piece is part of it,
but I think, yeah, there's a lot of ways in which
the word has been abused and, like, meant to
be, like, you should be meek, therefore you should
never, like, stand up for yourself in any kind
of way. Yes. But I'm going to venture a guess
that that's probably not what Jesus meant. Yeah,
I think we're going to go in a different direction.
Yeah. OK. So what when Jesus uses the word meek,
like what what is he thinking of? Hmm. Well,
Britain was just telling me she's done a lot
of research on this. So I've done so much research
on this. Uh, yes, I'm definitely a scholar in
this. Um, well, the word is only used once, uh,
in the Greek and in the Bible. Um, but it's more,
it's not a posture of being like weak. In fact,
they say that the definition, the comparison
words would be like gentleness, but that's like
a not a good definition. So like the word meek
is probably not the best word. that could have
been used in that translation or in any other
translation. The other translation that used
the word gentleness. Yeah. And it's it's probably
unfortunately a poor English translation. But
more it's like this posture of the willingness
to to trust, to trust in God. And I think that's
what the willingness to trust in God, the willingness
to know that you're Like your reward or what's
coming like you you you trust in God because
you know what's coming and Yeah, I think that
and that I don't want to get us to the second
part of the verse But it does make sense to the
second part of the verse and in many ways So
if there let's say you're like you're waiting
for something and I think that's what Christians
are constantly in this state of waiting in many
ways You're not in a rush. You're not in patience
because you're so aware of what is to come. Right.
And the greater reward. Yeah, I'll stop there.
But that's that's kind of how in my deep research,
that's that's what I was getting. OK, OK, cool.
Yeah, I think I agree with that. I think there's
like an unhurried nature to meekness. I mean,
meekness is a word is a King James. Yes. Translation,
right? So I think it probably had positive resonances
when it was originally Sure used and they just
kind of kept it in the Bible. So it's kind of
lost its resonance, but gentleness Not botheredness.
Yeah, I guess I mean you guys probably talked
about in other weeks How this the whole sermon
on the mountain to be attitudes is about this
reversal, right? The lash will be first first
shall be last So I just try to think about why
would we expect that the meek would not? inherit
the earth, right? What's Jesus being surprising
about here? And I think it's because you think
meek people are not, they don't have that go
-getter hustle attitude that it takes to get
and win the earth. Right. Right. Gentle people
are going to get walked all over, right? They'll
get taken advantage of. And you can't do that
in the real world. You need to sort of take the
bull by the horns and advance. Right. And Jesus
is saying, no. you know, a disciple of mine,
because the Sermon on the Mount is directed to
his disciples, is not worried about all that
stuff. You can afford to be gentle. You can afford
to turn the other cheek. Why? Because the actual
way of getting the prize of winning the earth
is by following me and not by grabbing all you
can get as quickly as you can. Yeah, yeah. Which
I think then connects really well to what you
were saying before, Melissa, about humility and,
yeah, just not worrying about all the stuff.
Right, because I can totally understand how the
word meek, when you first look at it, you think
it's a very negative, like, oh, they're little
and sweet and they can't stand up for themselves.
I think, though, that being meek... whatever,
whichever way Jesus meant it as is not a weakness.
I think a lot of times people in the world, they're
like, I have to step over other people or, you
know, they have to get vengeance or whatever.
And it's like, honestly, like, I don't know if
anyone saw Superman. I saw Superman last week.
Not yet. When it's like saying like kindness
is punk rock, you know, you can be kind and good
person. You can, you know, be soft and gentle.
And that's not a weakness. Um, and one of the
reasons why this is my favorite verse is because
I feel like I grew up in my life kind of as like
a meek Individual and sometimes I felt like I
had to change but I think through reading this
verse it's kind of like well No, I don't have
to change because There is still strength in
being kind and trying to be as humble and as
kind as I can and ultimately if it makes me more
like jesus who was is the most humble and the
most kind ever, then that's not a negative thing.
And I think that this beatitude really helped
me to see it in that way. Yeah. I think that's
a really great point. It's Jesus is the one exemplifying
all the beatitudes. Right. And it's it seems
ridiculous because how did Jesus's career end?
He got murdered by the state. Right. Yeah. Like
he didn't get all the things allegedly. And yet.
that was the route it took to actually inherit
the earth when the kingdom was handed to him
by his father. So it's, yeah, it's a very Jesusy
message. And I think it's like interesting too,
because it is just like, you know, again, in
this day, they kind of say like the loudest,
the strongest, the whatever is the one who's
going to inherit the earth. And I think it's.
Maybe as Christians, it's something for us to
think about like, you know, when the Bible says
be slow to anger, be slow to speak, be quick
to listen. Maybe a form of meekness is maybe
not being one to speak, but being one to actively
listen and be there with people. I think sometimes
like as Christians, we do want our voice to be
heard. Think though that even if you're not someone
who is going to like kind of say that no It's
kind of like nice to know that like hey, even
if you are a maker individual Jesus is on your
side kind of thing That's cool. Yeah Yeah, there's
This definition of meekness that floats around
Christendom sometimes that is power under control.
And the sort of theory behind this, not being
a Greek scholar myself, is that the Greek word
that's used for meekness is also a word that
is used for like a trained animal, like a horse.
So you like tame a wild horse kind of thing.
And so it's power under control. um i'm wondering
like what are your thoughts on that it strikes
me as helpful in some sense but also like a little
bit sort of points us back towards the power
that we want um which is maybe then not quite
as as countercultural as jesus is trying to be
i yeah i don't know what other folks think about
that definition go ahead jesson um yeah uh As
long as the power that you're talking about is
outside of yourself, and it's God's power and
not yours. Okay. Right? It's not like the power
of the gentleness and confidence a bodybuilder
has walking into a mosh pit. Right. It's like,
I could crush all you people if I wanted to.
I just won't. Right. That's not power under control
of the Christian. It's saying, I don't have to
worry about winning because my Father in heaven
and the Lord Jesus Christ has won it all already.
For me and and I'm with them sure Yeah, yeah,
yeah, it's like in no like I think it as Christians
we we know the story We know how the story will
end and in knowing that I think there is a power
in that But it's who where's that power coming
from? It's not just based on knowledge. It's
based on that that trust it comes back to that
again in that trust in in God and knowing that
God is going to be the one to uh to keep you
and maybe that's that's why if we're following
the model of of christ even if you are put upon
a cross and you are killed by the state right
uh there is you know what the end will be um
and it makes all of it worth it and i think like
meekness is a choice um because i think like
humans we tend to want to like Be the opposite
of meekness in this world and ultimately like
Jesus He is God so he didn't have to be me He
didn't have to die on the cross for us, but he
chose to do that out of love For us and so I
think it's when if we were to step into kind
of like meekness that's a choice that we're making
and that choice is kind of like Surrendering
that power to God being like God. I could go
out there and Run around with my head cut off
like run around like a chicken with its head
cut off And be brash and whatever but ultimately
I'm going to choose to surrender to you and be
meek because You were and it's I think it's a
it's a form of witness to just sort of opt out
of the rat race It sure shows people like you
can be a disciple too. You don't have to. I think
of that game from the 80s that I had when I grew
up called Hungry Hungry Hippos. It's this insane
game where there's marbles in this center area.
And the only thing you have to do is just smash
this pad so the hippos eat the marbles. Yeah.
And it's just as crazy. It has no skill. You
just freak out and spam the thing. But a meek
person would just sort of like not do that. Yeah.
Like everyone else. And everyone else is kind
of looking at you like, why are you not doing
this? The hippo is getting the wall. Yeah. It's
like you're going to stand out by not. You're
not playing the game right. And you're like,
yeah, I'm not playing the game right. I'm a disciple
of Jesus, you know. Right. Because I know that
the real game we're playing is one in which you
have to choose between the Kingdom of Heaven
and the Kingdom of Earth, which is a theme in
this sermon. Yeah. Yeah. So what does it look
like, practically speaking, for someone to be
meek? Like, what does it look like to play the
game differently or to play a different game
entirely? I just like even before I get to like
the part of like, what does that look like? I
think the In being meek you're aware of something
like that. We don't Humans like to play like
we have power and maybe we have some some semblance
of it or we feel like we have like when we feel
we're in control but to I think it's a living
crisis to recognize that we are powerless and
All the things that we might have you might have
lots of wealth and all that but that could all
go away in a moment so this awareness of our
own lack of of like true power. I think that's
something that when you are meek, you you're
recognizing that you're recognizing that the
control I think I have don't really have it.
Right. And the things that matter here don't
necessarily matter as much as the thing that
that God has promised us. Yeah, I mean, that's
like a. A mindset? Yeah, yeah, it's a whole perspective
shift. But that informs how you live, obviously.
But yeah, that perspective shift comes first.
I think you're right. I would say there are a
few practical ways. One of the first ways, maybe
to demonstrate weakness is, again, being slow
to speak, being slow to anger, and being just
quick to listen, which is... Active listening
is a really difficult skill, but it's important
and it does make people draw towards you a little
bit more. The other thing too is also just, you
know, even just acknowledging times where like
maybe you're presented with an opportunity where
you can kind of get ahead, but getting ahead
comes at the risk cost of someone else. And there
is that mindset of like, which I've heard and
I have adopted myself of like, well, why should
I care about their progress? I'm doing this for
me, you know, I'm living my life, you know, kind
of thing. But actually being more considerate
of the of other people. And, you know, if there's
something that might benefit others, maybe even
sacrificing something that's yours to help other
people, which is hard. However, at the end of
the day, it's like. Jesus is on our side. And
if it makes him happy, then, you know, whatever
that may look like, maybe surrendering something
like I think it's something as Christians we
should go for. Mm hmm. And it's something like.
Jesus is on our side, like you said, and so like
the way of Jesus and like following Jesus in
order to like please God is important. But I
think it's actually ultimately also true that
like the way of Jesus just like. is the better
way. It's just like is the way that we are like
made to follow, right? And so like even if in
the moment that the choice to be humble, the
choice to to, you know, hold back or whatever,
like it doesn't always feel great right then,
but like it is the thing that like is ultimately
more meaningful. I think being meek also or gentle
or whatever, it's what frees you up to put other
people first. Like if you don't view yourself
in a zero -sum game, like one of us has to win.
If you're not worried about that, what's this
person's angle? I can't let them have any ground
in this relationship. If you're not worried about
that and you're confident in Christ, you can
feel free to... Be like, yeah, sure. You know,
I'm happy for you to go first and me to go last.
I mean, it's very like Jesusy. Right. Jesus.
One of the things that ticked people off about
him is that he kind of wouldn't take sides on
stuff. Right. Right. Like when they come up to
him and they're like, so should we pay taxes
to Caesar? Right. Right. And he's like, yeah,
I guess. Right? You know, people are wanting
him to sort of like put a stake in the ground
and he's like, look, you guys can fight about
this. Right. What I care about is serving others.
I'm going to die for you people. And anyone that
wants to follow me, come follow me. Right. Right.
But yeah, you don't have to worry. It's not it's
not a competition. I mean, and I also think this
applies to the church. Like I want the church
to be known as a as a gentle thing, a gentle
body. But one of the problems I see sometimes
is that the church forgets that it's not locked
in battle for ground on the earth. Right. Right?
So you freak out and you're like, unless we get
these laws passed, unless we're in charge, then
we're going to lose. I'm like, no, you can't
lose when you're a disciple of Christ. You can
put other people first. The church can put other
people first. The church can lose and the church
should lose in this world for the sake of the
world. Just the way Jesus did. It's the priority,
right? If your priority is to create like some
sort of Christian earthly kingdom here, then
yeah, of course, the church should want to be
strong now in in the earthly understanding of
what it means to be strong. Right. Which is aggressive,
boasty, you know, trampling on others like those
types of things are are what we should prioritize
now. But If we're really looking at like that
second part of the verse, then none of that should
matter. That is not our priority. Yeah. Yeah.
So then I think that leads naturally into the
second part of this verse, which is inheriting
the earth. So Jesus says, blessed are the meek
for they will inherit the earth. And I think
based on what you were just saying, Justin, like
what that then means is something along the lines
of like, it's already won. And so following the
way of Jesus means that We don't need to worry
about it. It's kind of a given But yeah, so what
like what does this whole inheriting the earth?
Like what does that actually look like? What
does that mean? Because I think you're the professor
Not today What does inheriting the earth mean
Well, I think in the sense that that's the goal
everybody wants I mean there's a song by a band
called tears or fears called everybody wants
to rule the world right and that's the Their
default at least for a lot of people sure right.
The goal is winning the game of getting this
earth But you don't have to do anything to get
that all you got to do is follow this guy to
the cross right you got a And if you do that,
then it's Christ's world. I mean, to get super
theological about it. You know, this world was
created through in and with Christ, as Colossians
says. It's his. And then it's not only his, he
goes and redeems it when it screws up and brings
it back to him. It's Christ's world. That's the
reality of what this this this this whole and
by world, I mean, everything creation. Yeah.
So if you're going to get it, you got to get
in cahoots with the guy who has it, which is
Jesus. And sin is really just pretending or being
deluded into thinking you can have something
that is rightfully Christ's and it's not. Right.
But you're going to get that not by fighting
for it, but by residing yourself to the discipleship
of Christ. Right. I also like I feel like this
rest can be seen kind of in a tangible way as
well, which is, I find that if you are someone
who is meek or you choose meekness, humility,
gentleness, that is something that people do
draw towards. It is something that is a way that
you can spread the gospel because, you know,
spreading it gently, you know, being meek can
also be serving people. So go into places where
people, they're going through really hard times
and saying like, I'm going to serve you, I want
to put you first. And then by doing that, you
do kind of people do come to you and people do
feel like, you know, this is a place where this
is someone that I can be around. I feel like
that's another way of thinking about inheriting
the earth, which is like, oh, yeah, you know,
it's not necessarily like, you know, I guess
you get people to kind of like see. Jesus and
be more open to the gospel. And if we are as
Christians, we are Jesus's church now and he
works through us. I think then that. Yeah, it's
the meek who are going to show people who who
Jesus is and kind of like encourage people to
seek out Jesus. Yeah, I think about like there's.
This this verse that says, you know the meek
shall inherit the earth um, and the first beatitude
blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is
the kingdom of god and this is it's a bit of
a false dichotomy, but I think of the kingdom
of god as Kind of this like spiritual realm,
but this the earth is like very fleshy it's very
like this things you can like touch and like
the the word that's used there is the same as
like the soil the dirt the the earth, right?
And so there is this sense in which, like, what
Jesus is saying to us is that, like, this has
practical implications for the places that we
love, the places that we walk on, this, like,
the actual stuff of the world and not just, like,
our nice ideas about it. Yeah. I think that,
like, sin separates, right? And sin has separated.
are dwelling with God on the earth as like I
think Adam and Eve had a very tangible experience
with with God on the earth like it was it was
all very connected but sin has made us feel like
there's there's a space with God and then there's
this real matter thing and that's these like
they're separate but they're not and the kingdom
like kingdom or inheriting the earth Like we
talked about it, I think the last time I was
here about like the kingdom being past, present
and future. And I feel like that this verse is
leaning into the present and future. Like the
meek now, to be meek now is to give people a
taste of what that reunification looks like.
And then inheriting the earth is when that's
it's done. It's the future. And it's. I think
that's what it does, especially when people are
having encounters with someone that is truly
embodying what this verse is talking about. It's
rejoining for that person. We're living in this
separate, very like, if God isn't present, then
it's harsh and it's cold and it's dark. But when
God is in the mix, then there's... There's a
new way of seeing things. There's light. There's
there's joy. There's peace. There's care that
happens in that. Yeah, so I feel like there's
like the like this verse is kind of leaning into
those two, those two other stages. And it's preparing
us like if you enter into that that kingdom mindset
now, you are just you're going to inherit that
reunification that God has promised us. I mean,
scripture calls that reconciliation. Exactly.
It's the reconciliation of the earth to God.
It's not just human beings. It's all things are
reconciled in Christ. I mean, there's that verse
that I can't remember, but I know it's in Handel's
Messiah, which is the kingdom of our the kingdom
of this world has become the kingdom of our Lord
and of his Christ. Right. So. eventually this
rebellious thing that we call the Earth is going
to be reconciled and brought back into the fold.
And to inherit the Earth, I think, means we get
to live here the way we were supposed to, right?
The reason for which the world was created was
that we could live in harmony with God as creatures.
And we get to experience that. But if you want
to sort of circumvent that and try to take this
for yourself, You don't get to experience that
right? Yeah. Yeah, and I think The the other
word like we've talked about Earth a bit but
the other word in this sort of sentence that
feels important to me is like the inherit part
because If if you are inheriting something in
a very worldly sense, it means that like you
own it but not quite yet That there's there's
a sense of a future coming of a thing, right?
Yeah, which I think feels really important in
this context of like inheriting the earth because
if it was just a theirs is the earth like the
kingdom of god then then we might be tempted
to think like oh it's mine so i can do whatever
i want with it now oh yeah right whereas jesus
says no you will inherit it and so later in the
future when all things have been reconciled when
the world is set right and like y 'all are seeing
god face to face and it's all good then you get
the earth. But right now, it's still God's. And
ultimately, it will still be God's. But right
now, it's still God's, so you're still living
under the rules of God. I think what's kind of
cool about that is when we think of an inheritance,
it's kind of like someone had it, and now they're
passing it down. I think when we look at the
whole verse, it's like, blessed are the meek,
for they won't inherit the earth. It's like,
well, Jesus is and was meek first. And you know,
this is as well. So it's kind of like for us
in a way, it's kind of like we kind of have to
step into that role of meekness as well. And
then we also, I guess, inherit that kind of have
a pass down onto us. Yeah. Yeah. Like meekness
is like a family trait. Yeah. Right. Yeah. If
you get to the the original start of it all,
like we were we were we were designed to be stewards.
to care for the earth. That's a part of our role.
I think in understanding what it means to be
meek, we have a very different, like we talked
about at the beginning, like what people think
it means and then what scripture is really trying
to get at with this term. If we have a pure understanding
of it and we see ourselves as stewards, and we
see ourselves not in the rat race for trying
to win, but folks that have already won, we're
coming into the realization that God had always
prepared this for us. We were always supposed
to be a part of this. It's not something I have
to try and win because sin has created this delusion
in my mind to think that I need to win this,
but it's always been mine. And in coming into
Christ, I am now again up in the realization
of what who I'm truly supposed to be and my role
within this greater thing that's called life
for the earth and and whatnot because we are
in in Christ we are co -heirs, right and So yeah,
like it's like it's like I am just realizing
I'm coming like I've fallen out of the delusion
and now I'm living in the true reality. Yes of
what it means to be human, of what it means to
be a child of God. Yeah, that changes. I think
that changes a lot. Totally. I'll still study
for my test, but you know, like it does change
the perspective on like it's a lie. It's all
a lie. And that's why I could put you first,
because I know that like what's for me is for
me. What's for you is for you. And we're all
a part of this bigger thing. I keep thinking
of that, the prodigal son parable that Jesus
says, where, you know, the prodigal son tries
to take everything for himself ahead of schedule,
but then even he gets it anyway, right, when
he comes back and repents. Then the older brother's
all annoyed that the younger brother's getting
accepted. And what does the father say? Like,
what are you worried about? Everything I have
is yours. You don't have to freak out. It's not
like your younger brother's gain is your loss.
This is yours. You're going to inherit it. Yeah.
So don't freak out, you know? That's right. So
if we were rewriting the Beatitudes. Oh boy,
I don't want to do that. No, no, maybe not. Just
don't freak out. It's all yours. Just chill.
Chill. That's the verse. The verse is chill.
I also like like what Britt said as well because
it's like, yeah, like honestly, like if you look
at the whole world right now. We are being stewards
of the world. If anything, we're destroying this
planet and all the animals and all the land and
everything. And I also think, oh my gosh, I had
a thought, now it's gone. Okay, wait, no. Okay,
someone else go. Okay, we shouldn't do that.
We shouldn't destroy the world. That part. It's
like, oh, okay. It's basically like, I think
that... Okay, so if we want to serve people,
right? In my opinion, you can't serve people
if you don't have some sort of meekness, because
if you're serving people without the meekness,
it's in a way it's like, okay, so you're doing
it for your own gain, you're not actually doing
it for someone else. So I do think that if we
want to serve the world, we want to take care
of the world, then we have to be meek, you know,
because I would venture to get us to the people
who are. You know doing whatever they're doing
the world. They might think I'm doing it for
the world It's like no, you're not doing it out
of meekness. You're doing it out of pride You're
doing it because you want something in doing
that you're destroying the world so I guess if
Being meek is a way for us to be the original
stewards that we were supposed to be Can I Say
something in a different direction. Yes, totally.
I like what you're saying before about how like
you kind of grew up naturally meek, I guess,
or introverted or whatever. And one of the weird
things about church, or should be, is that people
like you are the people that we should be looking
to for leadership and guidance. This is one of
the ways that the church could be countercultural,
should it choose to be. Because normally when
we think of leaders and people we should emulate,
Like who's the alpha dog? Person who's got like
the clear vision and wants to do stuff and he's
saying look, you know the real disciples that
are gonna make a difference They're the quiet
intro. You just sort of have a leg up. It's kind
of like how jesus says To the the rich young
ruler like it's easier to get into heaven if
you're poor, right? Why because you the world
doesn't have leverage on you. Yeah when you're
poor, right? Uh, you don't have to be They can't
say, like, if you don't play by the rules of
the world, we're going to take your money away.
Right. And that's exactly what happened to the
guy. He's like, I can't follow you because I
want my stuff. Right. But it's the same. Gentle
people have a leg up. If you're not already worried
about winning, it's going to be easier to follow
Christ. And in the church, we need to listen
to people like that and not just the sort of
hurried Alpha people. Right. Yeah. Well, if you've
already won Christ, there's nothing better. So.
Yeah, there you go Yeah, so um This as it as
we've said is the third Beatitudes. So first
blessed are the poor in spirit blessed are those
who mourn? So how does meekness relate to those?
Previous two concepts I think so you started
to sort of draw a bit of a parallel there But
like you know those when we talked about the
poor in spirit We talked about you know, this
is a spiritual state, but it also is a very real
material state at points So yeah, those who are
are poor I don't want to say that they're like
More likely to be meek. They're not there's there's
differences there, but I think They're more likely
to be powerless. Yeah If you're not invested
in the world, yeah as much as others what can
the world do to you? Yeah I do think poor and
speak any of you talked about this probably but
poor in spirit the way I understand that is Means
being poor all the way down Okay, it's not you
can be rich in material things as long as your
pores we know it's like be poor all the way Right
all the way down to your spirit because I think
anyway, never mind. There's some textual issues
there, but Right, but that's why I think and
you pointed this out before that I think this
is kind of a parallel to the meek The meek will
inherit the earth is a parallel to the poor in
spirit, right? Right. It's sort of saying like
just be unattached. Yeah, don't be as attached
to this world as possible and yep We usually
think that the people who've got more have risen
higher Right are the people that we should be
paying attention to and emulating. It's like
no god has blessed them Yeah, right. But jesus
is saying no no to these other people who are
actually blessed. Yeah crying Poor introverts.
That's what we should emulate that sounds Sounds
like me Crying poor introverts who people make
fun of right? Okay, okay I mean like elementary
school. Yeah Yeah, that That seems wild to me.
Yeah, but also like the way of Jesus is sometimes
wild We follow a guy who was killed right? Yeah,
I mean he didn't win. He's not Napoleon He got
nailed to a cross while Napoleon lost to also
Britain Not me not me not me no no the country
Yeah, I mean he We follow a crucified lord, right?
So what we expect? Yeah Yeah, very cool Yeah,
so blessed are the meek. Yep, the the people
that Aren't trying to win the people who just
have tapped out of the game Blessed are they?
For god's got them. They will inherit the earth
Yeah, because the meek know they've won. Yeah,
they know we know But like, not in a cocky way.
Just in a like, it's fine. Which is like the,
I guess the Christian current mainstream thought.
The tradition I was raised in, the meekness was
very cocky. It's like, we're not gonna interact
with all these things, and we're just gonna watch
these folks burn. Because we are waiting to go...
somewhere else. We're waiting for this world
to be destroyed, to be made new. Like there's
a whole other place that we could go that is,
I'll just say that's a dangerous place to be
so disconnected from the suffering from the all
the things that are happening in this world.
Like meekness is removing the ego to put someone
else forward. um but it's for someone else it's
it's for a betterment it's not for like this
meh you suck anyway yeah no jesus opted out of
the world because he loved the world right like
all the way yeah the world this is how you love
the world you don't play by its rules and you
die for it yeah exactly and i think it's like
you know for us christians we're called to spread
the gospel it's like sometimes as Christians,
we can see just the world and what people are
doing inside of it. And it's kind of like there's
a better way. You know, those who aren't following
Christ, it's like there is a better way that
you don't have to suffer. You don't have to be
in this pain. And sometimes it can feel like
we're watching everything on fire. And it's like
just come to Jesus, come to Christ. Right. But
then it's like, oh, my gosh, I lost my thought
again. Oh, my God. It's like, OK, it's like.
It's okay. It's like if you want to be meek you
have to like engage with the world You can't
just like watch it. Yeah Beyond fire. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah something like that Yeah, no totally
totally like you get the water to turn to stop
to stop the fire Like you're you're not and you're
not thinking like if you let's we move into the
fire and water analogy Like you're not thinking
about well, I need to like keep all this water
for me like hoarding all this water sometimes
we hoard all this knowledge we hoard all of the
the things the greater truth that we know um
and just watch watch people burn like that's
i don't think that's the spirit that we should
be uh leaning into you it's one that's more it's
focused on sharing it's one that's focused on
Caring for others knowing that they are they
they too are they were in the delusion that we
were into And you know with that fire water analogy
It's like sometimes if as Christians, you know,
we have that water sometimes going to the fire
means that we're gonna get burned too and I think
sometimes that's really really hard to accept
but Jesus did die for us and he died a horrible
death So sometimes it is like yeah, we're gonna
have to get burned But at the end of the day,
God does have us. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. Thank
you so much, folks. I think this has been really
helpful to unpack the word meek, because like
I said, it's a weird word. We don't use a whole
lot. But then also like put this in the context
of what it means as a whole life follower of
Christ. And knowing the ultimate ending, which
is also a really helpful sort of note to end
on. So thank you so much. And thank you for tuning
into this week's episode of Trinity Talks. I
hope that this has also been helpful for you
to start to think about what it means to follow
Jesus in a world where sometimes we are tempted
towards things that are not the things that Christ
ultimately calls us to. But there is still goodness
in it. And we will see you again next week.