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Good morning everyone and welcome to Trinity

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Talks. My name is Kyla. My name is Melissa. And

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we are sitting down to talk more about the Beatitudes,

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which is this section of the Sermon on the Mount,

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so Jesus's most famous sermon or teaching, all

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sort of put together. And the Beatitudes start

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this off with, blessed are the... Blank and there's

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sort of eight statements that fit in there. So

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this week we're talking about blessed are those

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who mourn for they will be comforted And I started

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our podcast last week by talking about this word

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Beatitudes and I said at that point I don't actually

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know what this word means where it came from

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So I went home and did some homework on this

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and found out that in fact, yes Beatitudes does

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come from a Latin word Beatus Which just means

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blessed. Oh So, it all makes sense. So, like,

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the blessings. Yes, the blessings. The beatitudes,

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the blessings. Oh, that's really cool. And that

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makes a lot of sense, too. Yes, it does make

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a lot of sense. But I thought, you know, since

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I sort of said last week, I don't know, maybe

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I should know. Now I know. And now you all know

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as well. Yeah, very cool. I think that is really,

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really cool. I think sometimes I know definitely

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for myself, like seeing those big words, you're

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just like, oh my gosh, like this feels a little

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intimidating, but it's nice to know that it's

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like, oh no, it's just blessings. Very, very

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nice. Very, very like. soft vibe. Yeah. Yeah.

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Which I think also helps because beatitudes is

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like a super churchy word. Yes. Right. And so

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it's not we could call it the beatitudes or we

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could just call it the blessings. The blessings.

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Yes. I really like that. It really focuses in

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on, you know, what Jesus is talking about on

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the comfort that the beatitudes, the blessings

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bring. Yeah. Yes. But. This week we're talking

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about blessed are those who mourn which does

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not feel very Blessing. Yeah, like if you are

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in a state of mourning You're not like whoo.

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I am blessed exactly when you're mourning you're

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like the last thing on your mind is feeling blessed.

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It really does feel like the opposite of a blessing

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yes totally um so the bible uses the word mourning

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and some people in our culture talk about mourning

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but i think like grief is maybe a more common

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word or sort of an interchangeable word so i

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think yes like like grieving yeah yeah or just

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like this sense of loss yeah right So when I

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think about what has mourning looked like in

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my life, yes, it happens at a moment where I've

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experienced the loss of a person if someone sort

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of passes on. But I also think the more poignant

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or the more impactful states of mourning in my

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life have been the loss of... a place or the

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loss of like a community. Yes. So like I had

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this experience, you know, when I started university

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in the same year that I was I had moved away

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to go to school, my parents also at the same

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time moved provinces. Oh, and so when I went

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home, I guess when I went home for Christmas,

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they were still in the same place. But when I

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went home for like spring break in February,

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they were in a totally new house. And there was

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a sense of like. I've lost my community that

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I grew up in because I've moved away, but also

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because like I don't get to go back there in

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the same sense. Right. And there was a lot of

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like a period of mourning and grief over that,

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I think. Yes, I think that's a really, really

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good point, because when we think about mourning,

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we tend to think about losing a person. Right.

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Which is obviously like, you know, it's devastating.

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It's very, very painful. But there's so many

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other types of mourning as well. Like you said,

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like losing a place or I know for myself, when

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the when the lockdown happened due to COVID,

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I was in my fourth year of university and we

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just all, you know, moved home and then, you

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know, graduating online and it was like, you

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completed this degree and just kind of close

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your laptop and just feeling that sense of like,

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I feel like I've I lost something that I kind

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of envisioned, you know, like getting that degree

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and walking across like a stage and I think that's

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a really good point you make where mourning isn't

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just people. There's a lot of things that it's

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very valid to mourn and feel that grief as well.

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Yeah and I think mourning is something that we

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don't like doing for a lot of reasons. It's not

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a comfortable feeling. It confronts us with all

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of these like really painful realities and so

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I think then in our culture we often try to like

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skip it. Somehow or we compartmentalize it. We're

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like, especially I think when it's the loss of

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a person we think okay So we're gonna have this

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like celebration of life or this this funeral

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whatever whatever you want to call it and say,

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okay So we'll mourn this one day, but then we'll

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just like move on and pretend it's not happening.

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Right, right That's a really, really good point

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because I do feel like in society, you know,

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sometimes it's like you don't want to mourn in

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public, right? You kind of want to put on that

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facade of like, no, it's fine. You know, everything

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happens for a reason, which we learned a couple

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weeks ago actually is a biblical. And I think

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that is a really good point because mourning

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is painful. Yeah. and you have to be in a very

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vulnerable space to mourn. Yeah, yeah, totally.

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So in light of that, Jesus comes and says, those

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who are mourning are blessed. And like we talked

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about last week, blessed could be translated

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as happy, although in this sense, happy and mourning,

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they really come head to head. But there's this

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greater sense of like, this is the good life.

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The good life includes mourning. So, like, what

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do you think about that? Like, why might Jesus

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say that? You know, I want to be completely honest.

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It's something that it's a little bit hard for

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me to wrap my mind around. And I totally I think

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it's something that no matter where you're on

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in your journey with Christ, it's it's hard to

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kind of say, yes, you're right. I am living the

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good life if I'm mourning. Right. It's it's definitely

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the upside down kingdom that Jesus brings is

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definitely evident here. I would say though that

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I would say that perhaps Jesus says that because

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he's acknowledging the fact that mourning is

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a part of the human experience. It's something

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that we as people, no matter how hard we try,

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we can't avoid. Yeah. And I think it's very,

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very meaningful that Jesus, you know, does acknowledge

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the pain that people are going through, especially

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the pain of mourning, of grief, which can feel

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so like endless. It can feel all consuming. And

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Jesus is kind of saying, I guess he's saying

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like, I'm still there. You are still blessed

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and God is with you, even in your pain. Yeah,

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totally. I think the other thing that comes to

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mind for me, so there's This quote that I came

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across that's attributed to Queen Elizabeth that

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says grief is the price that you pay for love.

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So like because we love deeply or we love well,

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we will grieve deeply. Right. Are you a Marvel

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fan? Kind of. Kind of. Do you know that quote?

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It's with Wanda and Vision where this is a spoiler.

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Sorry, anyone who's not caught up. But they say

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Vision says that what is grief, if not love enduring?

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And I think when we kind of look at it that way,

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it does add another level to mourning as well.

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You mourn the things and the people that you

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love. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think then when I pair

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those two things together makes a lot of sense

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for like why Jesus is concerned about it. Right.

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Because Jesus was all about. love and like Jesus

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loving us, loving the world and encouraging us

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to like go out and love others. And so like what

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it makes me think about is that like this this

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sense that grief means that we have loved and

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it means that we're like actually paying attention

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to what's happening in the world. Wow. Right.

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Because like I said, we we would rather avoid

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grief. But when you stop and you love a person

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or a place or just like love the world in general,

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you realize there is so much stuff that is broken

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in the world. There is so much to grieve over,

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whether it is death or the loss of a community

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or just like the cons, like abstract concepts

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we can grieve over the idea of war existing,

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the idea of illness of whether it's physical

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or mental, like all broken systems. are things

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that we can grieve over because we love the people

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who are broken and hurt by these systems. That's

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really, really interesting because, you know,

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as we know, it's not easy being a Christian.

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You really do go through quite a bit of quite

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a bit of change as well as you surrender completely

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to Jesus. It's hard, but it's always worthwhile.

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And I. For me personally, when I came back to

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Christ and I was reading the Bible more and praying

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more, I guess the situations in the world became

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a lot more evident to me as well. I began to

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see a lot more pain and suffering and I began

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to mourn a lot more for this world as well because

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I understood that people are going through really

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difficult things and it's because, you know,

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sin has entered our world. They don't know Jesus.

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Or even if they do know Jesus, yet they're still

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suffering due to the consequences of sin entering

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our world. And I think as Christians, mourning,

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in a sense, is... Mourning the world is kind

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of, in a sense, part of the job description and

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mourning the brokenness and the pain that people

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are unfortunately going through. Yeah. Yeah,

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I love that that morning is sort of part of the

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job. Yeah, it's just like part of following the

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way of Jesus, because actually, if we look at

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scripture like Jesus mourns, God grieves over

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sin and brokenness in the world. Like there's

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this moment in scripture where Jesus is like

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walking up to the city of Jerusalem and he mourns

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over all that is broken, all for the exploitation,

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over this sense that like he knows. there's this

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sense like impending doom in some sense, because

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he knows, you know, the state of Jerusalem currently

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under the Roman Empire and like what is going

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to happen as the city falls and all of these

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things. Right. Exactly. And I feel that, you

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know, Jesus, he mourned over people, you know,

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like John the Baptist. However, he also did mourn

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over the world, like he said, like Jerusalem.

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And I feel that as Christians. We it's also like,

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yeah, like it's part of our job to also mourn

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the world as well, to mourn all the pain, because

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unfortunately, even though there was a lot of

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corruption and pain back then, it's still very,

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very evident today. And if if we don't mourn

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as Christians, then it's kind of like who is

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going to mourn? Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, totally.

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And I think it allows us another entry point

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for like. Preaching the gospel with our words.

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or sorry, with our actions, like as well as as

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well as our words, I guess. But like people out

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there in the world, whether they're Christians

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or not, have things that they are mourning. People

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are experiencing loss and grief. And so for us

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to come alongside them, we can come alongside

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them and say, oh, everything happens for a reason.

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Oh, God is is doing something bigger through

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this. Or we can come alongside them and say,

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yeah, this actually does suck. And you know what?

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Like, let's let's mourn this together. And ultimately,

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yes, find a way through it and hope. But like

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people need you in the pain. Yes, I that's really,

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really powerful because exactly like there's

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people who so many people are mourning and we

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ourselves may be mourning as well. And ultimately,

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society kind of, you know, we've kind of learned

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to kind of like skip over the pain, skip over

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the vulnerable parts. And I think it's really

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cool that Jesus is saying, you know, blessed

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are the morning because He is paying attention.

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He's bringing to attention the fact that mourning

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is a part of life. It's not something that you're

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just going to skip. You know, there's so many

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other things that Jesus could have said. And

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I do think it's pretty pointed that he did say

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no mourning. And it really highlights the fact

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that as much as maybe it's hard for people to

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remember me or just me, it's hard for me to admit

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that mourning and facing that pain is necessary.

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But as Christians, we can go to other people

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and we can say that we're mourning, too. You

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know, I think society sometimes thinks Christians

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are, oh, look, they're so happy. Everything is

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great. They believe in God and God is blessing

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them. And it's like, yes, God is blessing us.

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And we're also we experience mourning. We experience

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pain. It's part of the human experience. And

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God himself experienced mourning, too. So if

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God experienced that. we, why should we escape

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it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think like

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you talked about, you know, people on the outside

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looking at Christians and thinking that maybe

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they're always happy. I think sometimes we do

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that to ourselves too. We think, I need to always

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be happy because if I'm sad, it's like a bad

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witness. It's like a bad, if I am sad, I'm showing

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people, oh, the life of Jesus isn't actually

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that great because I'm sad. No, you're just like

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living all of life with Jesus, the happy and

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the sad. Exactly, exactly. And I think it's,

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you know, I think that's something that took

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me a long time to understand as well, which is

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that you're going to be happy and you're also

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going to be sad. However, in all of that, Jesus

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is there. He's there for you. He's going to comfort

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you. He's going to provide his compassion and

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his love as he's always done. So mourning isn't

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something you have to avoid. If anything, it's

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something that when you openly show mourning

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as a Christian. it could bring other people to

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you and be like, hey, this is a space that I

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feel like is safe for me to mourn and to work

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through those emotions and these events. Yeah,

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yeah, totally. I think so we've we've talked

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about this a little bit and how like the idea

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of sin fits into the idea of mourning. But I

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guess like there is a spiritual element to this,

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right, that sometimes folks will take. the beatitudes

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or we'll take this concept of mourning and say

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actually what we're mourning is like sin and

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therefore it leads us to repentance and I think

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that's true. I think there is a very real sense

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in which yes I am sad about the personal sins

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that I have committed and so therefore it does

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lead me to want to change my behavior. But I

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think there's also a sense of I'm mourning the

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sin in a wider sense. Sin is this word that feels

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kind of icky sometimes because we associate it

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with me doing bad things. But actually, it's

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just a word for the things that are broken in

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the world, the things that fall short of God's

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hope and dream for the world. Right. And so sin

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is not just my thing. It's like, what is broken?

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Exactly. And an example that I think of is, you

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know, the animals who, you know, when a natural

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disaster happens, even man -made disasters, and

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those happen because the world is broken, sin

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has entered the world. And then I think about

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the animals and I think about how they suffer

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due to, you know, human action or due to just

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things out of their control. And it's like that's,

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you know, something to mourn, not even just the

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animals, people, children, elderly, everyone.

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And it's like we can mourn the fact that Things

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happen in the world that are completely out of

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our control and they're devastating. And unfortunately,

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until, you know, Jesus comes back, it's something

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that humans will keep facing. It's, you know,

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floods, earthquakes, things like that. Yeah.

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Yeah. And and yeah, like I said, it's important

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to have a spiritual framework to do that, but

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not to sort of over spiritualize it. That's a

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good point, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the second

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part of this beatitude, Jesus says, blessed are

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those who mourn for they will be comforted. And

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when I look at that, I'm like, OK, but could

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I not just like be comforted without the mourning?

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Right. Like that would that would be nicer, wouldn't

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it? And also it feels like there's I think this

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temptation to say like bad things are good because

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you then like get to experience the goodness

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out of them. Right? Like, you get the comfort

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and you couldn't get the comfort without the

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bad thing. Yeah. And there is a logic to that.

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That is true. Yeah, I see it. Okay, no, go ahead.

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No, I definitely see it. And I think, yeah, like,

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you know, that question of like, well, how can

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we even feel comfort? You never know that you're

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happy unless you've experienced sadness. It's

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kind of like that thing, right? However, at the

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same time, I still feel like, well, I just...

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still don't want to feel the sadness. Yes. I

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don't want to feel the mourning. Yes. You know,

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I'm I'm sensitive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

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I think like we need to be careful that we then

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don't say that like the bad stuff is good. Yeah.

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Right. The bad stuff, the stuff that is causing

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us to mourn is still bad. It's like not not what

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we should be doing, not like what God wants for

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us. But we still get the comfort. Right. That's

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a really good point. And it's kind of we touched

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upon it last week as well, where we said, you

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know, no one's actively seeking for opportunities

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to mourn. Maybe someone is. But I would say for

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the majority of us, we're not looking to mourn.

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And it's not like we're saying, OK, in order

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to receive comfort, I'm going to find something

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to mourn. Rather, it's just that. unfortunately

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for all human beings, we will all experience

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mourning. It's something that is out of our control.

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And if it's not mourning a person, it's a place.

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If it's not a place and it's just the state of

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the world. And I feel that again, the blessings

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for me, they always provide so much comfort because

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it kind of is Jesus saying that you will experience

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mourning and I'm going to still be there for

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you. I'm going to come for you and I'm going

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to guide you through this. you know, rely on

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me. And I feel like that that is really comforting

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and it helps me to live life. Yeah, totally.

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So what do you think it means to be comforted?

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Like, this is the sort of the promise that comes

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out of this. Those who mourn will be comforted.

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Like, what does that mean? So it means like the

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presence of Christ, the presence of God with

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us. What else maybe does that mean or look like?

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Hmm. I would say. immediately my mind does go

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into the presence of Christ. I used to think

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that, you know, being comforted or, you know,

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God being there for you was God suddenly fixing

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everything. Right. You know, it's like, oh, you're

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mourning. OK, let me remove that thing, like

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remove, you know, bring that back or something.

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Right. But I've realized that God doesn't always

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work that way. what He does promise is that He

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is going to be there. So I do feel like it is

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the presence of Christ. In terms of other forms

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of comfort, I think it's just, you know, we as

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humans, we can also comfort each other as well,

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right? And comfort can just be being there for

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people, acknowledging that you can't fix the

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problem, but you're going to be there with Ears

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to listen with a heart that cares compassion

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love and kindness Yeah, totally and I think that

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is equally God providing comfort God just like

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does it through people right like there there

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are moments and I have experienced moments in

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my life where I'm Alone, there's no other people

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there, but I feel a sense of like peace or comfort

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that it like is coming from God But equally and

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more often, there have been moments where I feel

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comfort because another person is providing a

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listening ear, is providing practical support,

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whatever it is. And that is still God giving

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me comfort. It's like doing it in a different

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way, I guess. Right. And that's interesting because

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I know for me as a person, sometimes whenever

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I go through, you know, experiencing something

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difficult and I know a lot of people could relate

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to this is that You know, we do it alone. We're

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like, OK, I'm going to mourn, but I'm going to

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do it alone. I don't want to do it in front of

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someone. However, when we choose that or when

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we kind of, you know, choose to retreat or isolate

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in a way, we're choosing not the comfort sometimes.

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And as Christians, it is really important to

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be in a community. It is really important to

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be with other believers. And perhaps, yeah, that

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is what Jesus also means by comforted, which

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is that if you mourn, you will be comforted by,

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you know, the community I've placed you in or

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the people I've placed around you. Yeah. And

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so I think that comfort looks like different

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things at different moments. Like sometimes it

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is a listening ear. Sometimes it is just a feeling

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within ourselves of peace. But sometimes it's

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much more practical, right? In small town communities

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and sometimes in other communities, when someone

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dies, that family is often surrounded by practical

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support. People bringing them meals, people just

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showing up and being together and all of these

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things, right? That is comfort. Exactly. That's

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a really, really good point, too. And I think

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that's another way that Christians, we can kind

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of show up and show the love of Christ, which

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is providing comforts through those practical

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means as well. Yeah. The other thing that I was

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reading about and sort of reflecting on this

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week in terms of comfort is that it's interesting

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that what Christ offers us here is comfort and

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not like revenge. Because sometimes when we're

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mourning, particularly when we're mourning and

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we can find a person to blame, we're like, ah,

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you or this is the reason that I am sad right

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now. Our instinct is not to ask for comfort.

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Our instinct is to ask God to smite them. Or

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God be like, no, knock them down from their place

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of power. But Christ is not offering us revenge.

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Christ is offering us comfort. Right. And then

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it's like, well, if I took revenge, wouldn't

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I feel comforted? Because this is down. And Jesus

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is like, no, that's not. No, no. And I think

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you raise a really good point, because when you

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mourn, there is a lot of anger to it. Totally.

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It's part of the process. You know, and I think

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we will then find maybe a way to kind of express

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or let out that anger. And it's not always going

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to be in a healthy way. And I feel like, yeah,

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it's like, Jesus is saying that, you know, in

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a way, it kind of is like surrendering to Jesus

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to say, like, I'm really, really mad that this

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happened. I'm really, really mad that this is

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broken or that I've lost this. And instead of

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seeking, taking things into my own hands, I'm

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going to go to you and seek your comfort and

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leave this to you, which is hard. Totally. Yeah.

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I think there is a place in scripture we see

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people praying, God, take them down from their

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throne. Like, God, I am mad about this thing.

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And like, take them down because they hurt me.

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They're the enemy. And so there's a place for

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us to ask that of God. But our response... to,

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like, God's action should not be dependent on

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God answering that prayer in the way that we

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think God should answer that prayer. Right? That

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Jesus' scripture, the story of scripture, tells

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us there is a place for anger. There is a place

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for saying, God, this is not fair. But in this

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particular instance, what Christ is offering

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is comfort. And Christ is saying, this gift of

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comfort maybe will come through a person falling

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from their throne. Maybe it won't, but Your comfort

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does not depend on what happens in the other

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person's life. That's a really, really good point.

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And I really, I like that because it really kind

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of aligns with the, you know, I feel sometimes

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when we're angry and we act out on that anger,

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whether that's revenge or anything, consequences

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do happen. There have been many times where I'm

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not in a great mood, I'm upset, and then I act

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in a way and later I'm like, that was kind of

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mean and I kind of really regret that. It didn't

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fit with my values. I don't feel proud to have

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done that. Ultimately, when God is telling us

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something, he tells us it because it's for our

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benefit. He is protecting us. He sees the whole

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picture. And sometimes, you know, it's him saying,

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hey, choose comfort, choose me, because it can

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lead to the less consequences. And you can feel

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a little bit better about yourself the next day.

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You can feel a little bit prouder of yourself.

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It's hard, but it's always worth it to choose

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comfort instead of anger or revenge. Yeah, yeah,

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totally. So last week we talked about this beatitude

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blessed are the poor in spirit for they will

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see the kingdom of God This week blessed are

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those who mourn for they will be comforted How

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do you see the like relationship between those

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two things? Well, I feel that you know when you're

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going through periods of mourning I would say

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you are also poor in spirit. Yeah and so Yeah,

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I definitely think they tie into each other,

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but I think it's really cool that Jesus is still

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saying, you know, kind of like that same message

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of like you don't choose the fact that you're

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going to be poor in spirit or that you will mourn.

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However, through all of those situations, I'm

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going to be there. I think throughout all the

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Beatitudes that one common denominator is Jesus

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and his comfort and his presence and his kingdom.

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Yeah, yeah, totally. I think. You're right that

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when we are mourning, we are sort of poor in

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spirit in that sense of like, yeah, feeling down

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and defeated. I also think those who are poor

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in spirit have a lot to mourn often. Right. Like

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if we think about last week, we talked about,

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you know, this connection, poor in spirit is

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a spiritual emotional concept, but it is also

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a material concept that folks are living in a

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poverty of material, like not having enough material

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wealth. And when you are in that state, there

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is a lot to mourn. Yes. Obviously, as we talked

00:27:55.460 --> 00:27:58.599
about last week, God is there. God brings blessing

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in that in a way. But there there is a lot that's

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like just like beating you down. Yeah. Right.

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And a lot that makes you feel really powerless.

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Yeah. And so Jesus says when you're in that state

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and you are mourning, because I think they they

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go hand in hand. I am there. And you are getting

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this kingdom of God that we talked about last

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week, the sense that God is there, God is doing

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a thing right now, and God is giving you a promise

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for the future. And so that's the kingdom of

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God and comfort and a sense of peace and a sense

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of, you know, there's goodness right now that

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you're not facing this morning alone. Right.

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And I like that you mentioned, you know, not

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just the spiritual aspects, but also the physical

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aspects of the world as well. Right. Of course,

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you know, poor in spirit doesn't necessarily

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mean just inside. It can also be material things,

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tangible things. Yeah. And oftentimes we will

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mourn things that are a little bit maybe less

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spiritual, more like tangible things as well,

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like of the world, kind of thing. Yeah, mourning

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a person, mourning the loss of a home, mourning

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the loss of a job, whatever it is. Exactly, yeah.

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And I think it's really cool that it's kind of

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like no matter where you're at in life, no matter

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what you're mourning, no matter what it is, no

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matter where you are, Jesus is always going to

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find you. He's always going to provide you with

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that comfort no matter where you're at. And He's

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experienced it, too. And so I think. That's just

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something that I always think is so cool is that

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God has experienced human pain. He has experienced

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mourning and grief and loss. And I just think

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that's so cool that He chose to enter a human

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body and to experience those things for us. And

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so when we go to God, you know, and we say, God,

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like, this isn't fair. Like, why is this happening?

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We can be assured that His comfort is genuine

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because He's out here saying, like, I've been

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there. I know how you feel. And I will provide

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you with comfort. And perhaps that's something

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for us as Christians to do is to say, you know,

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take our pain, take our mourning and then use

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that to help other people as well. Whether they're

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mourning the loss of something physical or spiritual,

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emotional, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, totally.

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Yeah, I think this has been really helpful to

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think through. Yeah, what what morning even looks

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like and and and why it's such a part of our

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lives, but then also The meaning that can come

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out of it again not saying that the morning is

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good, right? But that God redeems Yeah, right

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that God provides us with what we need in that

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moment Even in the midst of a place that like

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God would never wish for us to be in exactly

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I really I really really like that and you know,

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that word, redeem, because sometimes when you're

00:31:01.809 --> 00:31:03.150
mourning, when you're going through that pain,

00:31:03.609 --> 00:31:05.490
it really feels like it's endless. You really

00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:08.049
are like, I don't know how this is ever going

00:31:08.049 --> 00:31:11.589
to get better unless that thing comes back. But

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God always finds a way. He always finds a way

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to redeem. I think it's important as Christians,

00:31:16.869 --> 00:31:22.329
though, to take that step too towards God. I

00:31:22.329 --> 00:31:26.609
think that when you're mourning, you can maybe

00:31:26.609 --> 00:31:28.630
go to God and be like, oh, this is unfair. Please

00:31:28.630 --> 00:31:31.650
smite that person on their office chair right

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now or something. But I think that in order to

00:31:36.009 --> 00:31:39.170
receive that comfort, we also have to take a

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step of still acknowledging God in this, whether

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that's through anger, sadness, joy, whatever.

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Because I've gone through times where I've mourned

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and I didn't go to God and I didn't feel that

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comfort because I just wanted to handle it all

00:31:52.589 --> 00:31:56.789
on my own. And I think Jesus is reminding us

00:31:56.789 --> 00:31:59.210
that you will be comforted, but you do have to

00:31:59.210 --> 00:32:01.630
come to me. You do have to include me in all

00:32:01.630 --> 00:32:04.529
this. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, this has been

00:32:04.529 --> 00:32:08.130
really good. Thank you so much, Melissa. Yeah.

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And thank you for tuning in to this week's episode

00:32:11.509 --> 00:32:14.329
of Trinity Talks. I hope that you have experienced

00:32:14.329 --> 00:32:18.569
some comfort in our conversation and that whatever

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it is that is causing mourning or grief in your

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life. I encourage you to find a way to bring

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that to God and to trust that God is with you

00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:32.579
in it, even if you don't want to be in it. And

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we'll see you again next week as we continue

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talking about the Beatitudes. See you then.
