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Hello everyone and welcome to this week's episode

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of Trinity Talks. My name is Kyla and this week

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as you can see I have a full room of folks who

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are recently back from Honduras where they went

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on a trip with Trinity, but also with our partnership

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with World Vision. And so I'm really excited

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to hear more about what that trip was like for

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each of these folks and yeah, how God has been

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working there and in each of our lives here as

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well. So let's start with some introductions.

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Maybe you can give me your name and what made

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you interested in being part of this trip. Okay,

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we'll start over here. Sure. Good afternoon.

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My name is Heather, and what led me to want to

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go on the trip is I've heard about the work of

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World Vision for many, many years, and I've always

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been impressed with what I've heard, but an opportunity

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to go and see firsthand what they were doing

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was what led me to decide to participate. Okay,

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cool. My name is Petra, and I wanted to go on

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the trip to meet my sponsored child and to just

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experience what it's like in the countries that

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aren't as wealthy as Canada. Okay. Cool. And

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here. Ah, yes. I mean, I was brought on to capture

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the trip, so I went two years ago, and it was

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kind of a continuation of that, being able to

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kind of film everything that was going on. So

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it was also just, I like being there. It's a

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meaningful trip, yeah. And what is your name?

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My name is Alex, for those at home. All right.

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And at the end here. My name is Adrian. And when

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I got the email about it, it sounded interesting.

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So I chatted with Rob a bit. And he mentioned

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that Women's Empowerment was going to be kind

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of a focus of the trip, which is a real passion

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of mine. So I kind of got on board then. Okay.

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Cool. So you spent about a week -ish in Honduras

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with some travel time on Monday and Friday. So

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in general, what did that week look like? What

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were some of the things that you were doing?

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Yeah, do you want to start, Adrienne? So, well,

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we visited several schools. We got to see the

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kids, what World Vision is doing at schools.

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We also went to a farm. We went into a community

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and got to see a couple of different ways that

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people live in those communities. What else?

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So a lot of traveling. So it was a good distance

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from the hotels where we stayed. up into the

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mountains where the villages were on very rough

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roads. And our drivers did a great job taking

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care of us, but it was a lot of rough and rocky.

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They told us that was a Honduran massage being

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bounced around in the vehicles. We also went

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to like a daycare center, a child's care center,

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and they showed us like... They painted with

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coffee and they made us paintings and they showed

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us around. So you talked about going to some

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of these firms, going to some of these schools

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and places to see what World Vision is doing.

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So what was it that you saw? What are they doing

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in the schools and firms in different places?

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So a lot of what they're doing is child education,

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but they have a holistic approach to education.

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So a lot of what we saw were a unit they had

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done around personal hygiene, so around how to

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wash their hands and how to know what was safe

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food and how to know what was safe water. And

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the curriculum that they had used to teach the

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kids that. And the day we were there, the kids

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got their certificates, having learned about

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eight different aspects of personal hygiene.

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Okay, cool. And you mentioned, you know, women's

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empowerment being part of the trip. So what did

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that sort of look like? I didn't go to the farm

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visit. You guys did. But one of the things we

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did was the female farm cooperative. So it was

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11 women, one man to make 12. And World Vision

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does a lot of, I don't know if I'd call it agricultural

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coaching maybe, for lack of a better term. But

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they have a lot of experts that were helping

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people maximize their crops, figuring out markets,

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things like that. And even in the community,

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the lady that we visited, I can't remember her

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name. Gracie. Yes, Gracie. So she talked about

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the leadership training that she also gets from

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World Vision. So apart from, like, we saw lovely

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new bathrooms that had been built at two of the

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schools with running water sinks, flush toilets,

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and then we also saw a computer lab that World

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Vision had built. So aside from those tangible

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things, the ongoing coaching was something that

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I certainly wasn't aware that World Vision did

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that was really awesome to see and see people

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take advantage of that. And not just coaching,

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too, but I think there are... big portion of

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that as well was like changing their minds too

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i guess right like it was the empower world view

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i believe that's what it was and their thrive

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program as well so the thing where like they

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had to actually change the mindset that a lot

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of these people were in to be able to like have

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those trainings really stick um if they teach

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them how to do things or they they teach them

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how to grow certain like products and stuff that

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has to actually be like backed by some inspiration

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so that they feel motivated they they know they

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can do this they're really pushing for it and

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so that was like a big aspect of the trip too

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is like seeing how in each of the areas that

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we were around like how that was taking effect

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which looked a little bit differently where it

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was if it's in like the farming communities or

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schools and whatnot too it's having that it's

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a big aspect of it Yeah. And so Petra, did you

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go visit the farm? Is that what I heard? Yeah.

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Okay. So what was that like? It was very cool.

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They were mostly women. There was one guy. Yeah.

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They had like this whole like, I forget, it was

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like the system so that it would get watered

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properly. It was like layered. I don't know how

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to explain it. Yeah. They looked very educated

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about their farming and stuff. It was good to

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see. Yeah. Cool. like as a central hub to teach

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a variety of farmers as well too instead of being

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able to like go to different areas too and teach

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them how to do it being able to have a central

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spot where they can just fund that one area too

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with like an irrigation system and and all that

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is a little bit more manageable too then once

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they learn those skills as well then they can

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go out and practice that elsewhere as well, if

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I remember correctly. And there was also a financial

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piece that they trained them on. What was that?

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So what they had is they were teaching them so

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the money that they earned, they had almost like

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a financial cooperative so they could then provide

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loans to other farmers. Like a savings and loan

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kind of thing. So talking about a passive income.

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So the fact that they had this money and the

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money could make money for them. So rather than

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just the planting and the growing of the crops.

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aspect of it as well. And I think to all of us,

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just the fact of teaching them those kinds of

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skills, that money management, that passive income,

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as well as all of the farming skills and just

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listening to the ladies talk about when they

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had, when they were determining what kind of

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crop they were going to grow. And they realized

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that, so these peppers that they were growing

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is, they're very hot peppers. so they talked

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about you know they talked about growing these

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peppers but they knew they were going to have

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they called it hot hands because i guess just

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even picking the peppers and so they were reluctant

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to do that but then they went out into the market

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and they talked to um where they could sell the

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peppers and and they determined that they could

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get a better price for the peppers that they

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were uh it was less of a drive to get them to

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market and and just the the um decision -making

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process that they went through to determine and

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and in the end the lady's saying so we decided

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we're having hot hands this year because you

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know that was the crop but just that they had

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gone through that process the women of the cooperative

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had gone through that process of determining

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that and the fact that they had been trained

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to do that and they were out there marketing

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and selling their crops in the market and i thought

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wow that's what a skill that they've taught these

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women that they can then go on and next year

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determine what crop it will be and, again, go

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out to the market. And before that, they were

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just, not just, but they were housewives. They

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were housewives, yes. The whole mindset thing

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that Alex talked about was getting out of the

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house, now starting a business with women they're

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friends with, maybe some not. They talked about

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relationships a lot and having good relationships.

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So that was really neat. And not only the mindset

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thing, but I think like biblical worldview specifically

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is what World Vision is coming in and teaching

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them too. Like they're loved and appreciated

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and all that too. There's a whole aspect of that

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as well with like bringing up children in that

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way too. But even just on a business front as

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well, having that as the background was another

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big focus too. yeah that's so cool like there's

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sort of two things that i'm i'm hearing one is

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like that this is a really sort of holistic program

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right that it's not just giving schooling or

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giving hygiene or giving seeds for farming it's

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it's all of those things and how do we wrap that

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in mindset training in the ability for people

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to like keep doing things The end goal, like

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World Vision is in there for a specific period

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of time. At the end of that period of time, the

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idea is that the people they have trained will

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be able to carry on without them. So it's not

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like we're here to provide for you forever or

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we're going to teach you. It's the concept of

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teach a man to fish is very much a part of. So

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they have going in, they have an exit strategy

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and they're working towards that. A lot of it

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is just a volunteer run as well, too. And people

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being motivated just like out of the potential

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of good for everybody in their community as well,

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too. So they'll have like some key people that

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will be volunteering and we'll get all these

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trainings to it and they can train other people.

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And it kind of spreads out that way. Yeah, I

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mean, that sustainability piece was sort of the

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other. part that that really stands out to me

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you know like like so i previously worked in

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in international non -profits and like i always

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thought of it as like the end goal is working

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myself out of a job right at least in that specific

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location there's always going to be more places

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that have need but like the end goal is always

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how do we provide what's needed so that the people

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can provide for themselves right yeah and that's

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yeah that's so cool that's what's happening um

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so it was a very full week lots lots happening

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um is there one favorite memory or one sort of

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favorite moment that stands out to you um yeah

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for those of y 'all are listening in the service

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you might have heard a little bit about this

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but Yeah, there was a bit of a memorable moment

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that happened. So I was capturing all the video

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stuff for it. And so as a part of that, I was

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able to bring a drone this time, which was nice

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to be able to get a few shots here and there.

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And one of the shots that I wanted to get, because

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we were traveling in a convoy of like three or

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four or whatever vehicles, like off -road. trucks

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and whatnot because the roads were kind of crazy

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but I wanted to get a shot of seeing that in

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the landscape because I was just filming from

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inside the car all the time and so we were coming

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back from Jorge's coffee farm so we were pretty

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high elevation and I was like last day too I

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was like hoping I can get something so I was

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like cool I want to get a shot of the trucks

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going down I can just like fly up and so that's

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what we're doing and I was flying outside of

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the window of the truck and It was going good.

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You know, let's get some shots. And the drone's

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going around. And then I get a warning on the

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screen, which I don't even know if it's a warning,

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but it was like a notification. Extended flight

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time recognized. I'm like, yeah, I don't care.

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Whatever. And then it's like, get going. And

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then. The drone, so I'm following the trucks,

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and then the drone just kind of, like, stops,

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like, going any further. And I'm like, okay,

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this is interesting. And then on the bottom of

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the screen, I see, like, the distance. It's,

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like, 800 meters, and then it's red. And it's

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like, okay, what? It won't go anywhere? So what

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was happening is it wouldn't go any farther that

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way. It could only backtrack. So I was like,

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okay, well, this is the whole thing. So I had

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to tell the trucks to slow down. And then I tried

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to see, okay, maybe I run down. I get a little

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bit closer. Like, the 800 meters will go down.

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Didn't happen. And so basically I was standing

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like on the road and I could try to like look

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for the drone. I like made it go up a little

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bit. I could see it was like 30 feet like off

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the road and it wouldn't go farther. It was like

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literally I could see it. It was hovering above

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a tree. And I was like looking around to see

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if anywhere else I could drop it down. There's

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like a little path there. I didn't know. It was

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like even harder to access if I was to put it

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down there. And I had recovered drones before

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if they'd like fallen into a tree. And it's not

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the end of the world. i was like well all right

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battery starts going down like two minutes and

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whatever left and then inevitably starts like

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lowering itself so i basically just have to watch

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this from the road like 20 feet away just like

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thing happening and i knew in my mind i was like

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okay it's gonna become a whole thing now it's

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like well now it's gonna be like a 20 minute

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whatever like thing like looking for this thing

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and uh yeah so i was like all right Goes down.

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I have to go down the dry. So there's a little

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dry river bank there. I had to go under a barbed

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wire fence and then across the river bank up

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the like hill into the like forest or whatever.

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And I'm trying to do this because if I, it's

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like another like two or three minutes left of

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the battery. Otherwise like the GPS signal gets

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lost and I can't really find it again. And so

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I have to go like really quick. So I'm going

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around the GPS only updates every 30 seconds

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as well. Okay. I go too far and update. Okay.

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Too far again. So I knew it's in this like area.

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I was like pretty close. And then I looked across,

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I'm like scanning across the ground and I see

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like a pair of boots standing. And I'm like,

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oh gosh, I don't want anything bad to happen

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here. So I immediately run back and then go back

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over to like the road and the others are coming

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to meet me. And I'm like, yeah, well, so the

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drone's over there, but there's like somebody

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over there. I didn't even see who it was. I just

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saw the boots. I'm like, I'm out of here. And

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they're like, oh, no, it's fine, it's fine. Okay,

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so then our translator or one of the drivers,

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World Vision, guy Tony, love Tony, shout out

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Tony. Rob goes under, so I hold the barbed wire

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fence. Everybody goes down. And they started

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talking to this guy. I think his name is David.

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He's a coffee farmer there. He's nice. He's super

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nice. He has a machete, of course, as you do.

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I didn't even notice the machete, too, when I

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was in there. That would have been even scarier

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if I saw that. And so I was talking to him. He

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was like, oh, yeah, I heard this buzzing. In

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Spanish, of course, it's great to have people

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that speak a native language. First of all, I

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also think it sucked having a language barrier.

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I think we all felt that, too. I was like, man,

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I wish we knew the language more. But we did

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have a translator there. Anyway, so we were all

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looking for it. I told him, we can leave it.

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It's fine. I was expecting to possibly lose the

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drone. I swapped the SD card out ahead of time

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just in case I lost it. Didn't expect it to happen

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like that. But anyway, so he whistled over. He

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had found it. And yeah, we got it back. I got

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a picture of it as well, which is really funny.

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But yeah, I was surprised we were all kind of

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looking for it for that long. There was a hornet,

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massive hornet as well too. We were standing

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on the road and watching them in the jungle and

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forging around and just looking at this massive,

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massive hornet's nest just right above where

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they were. I can't imagine what would have happened

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if the drone had crashed on there. Into the hornet's

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nest. Yeah, but it was funny too. And I was like,

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dumb thing we're like praying like no it'd be

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really cool to like get it back you know it might

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be nice and then but it's funny because like

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you wouldn't expect someone just to be like in

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the forest like right there like i had no idea

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like that somebody's right there so it was convenient

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that we got we got that little little win gifted

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to us okay very cool very cool um yeah adrian

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what about you favorite memory So I work with

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a charity called Days for Girls, and we make

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menstrual hygiene kits that last like two to

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four years. And so I had mentioned it early on,

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then I was told a week before it was arranged,

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so I was good to go. So I had never done a distribution

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before. I have never worked with a translator

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before. I have never been to a country like Honduras

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before. So I was like, what a great idea. So

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Tony, again, Tony is awesome. He did it with

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me, the presentation. So we had a classroom of

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about 25 grade 6 girls. So through him, I did

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the presentation. It was awesome to see how much

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they knew. A lot of places that we go to, they

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know nothing. Girls were very well informed.

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I gave them the kits. We chatted. Tony was an

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excellent sport about it. And then I was able

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to leave 25 kits behind that they're going to

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give out to the high school students. So I also

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left a Spanish flip chart for them. And then

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Days for Girls already has a partnership with

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World Vision. So hopefully going forward, we

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can keep doing that. That's awesome. Yeah. Petra,

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what about you? Favorite memory? For me, it was

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playing soccer with the kids at Children's Center.

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It was just, like, even though I couldn't really

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understand them, we could still play soccer together

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and we understand that. Nice to connect with

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them even without speaking Spanish. Yeah, because

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like play is like a universal kind of language,

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right? Yeah. What about for you? I think for

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me it was the children's party that we did and

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just seeing all of the children. Everywhere we

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went, the children were so happy. They were so

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engaged. They were so excited to see us. But

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at the children's party that we got to meet our

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sponsored children, but also we got to meet,

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well, all of the children there were children

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that were sponsored by Trinity. So those of us

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who were there, we met our individual sponsored

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children. But then there was a group of families,

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children sitting off to the side, obviously waiting

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for us. And these were kids whose sponsors hadn't

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come on the trip, but they had gifts to send

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back. So they gave us gifts to bring back to

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the families that were sponsoring them. So it

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was lovely. It really was. We look at these kids

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and the poverty that they live in, and yet they

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want to give back to us. And that, just their

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wanting to give to us was so genuine and so encouraging.

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Yeah. That's awesome. So I'm wondering how this

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experience has sort of shaped your faith. If

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there are things that you learned about God through

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this experience or that God has shown you. Yeah.

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What are some of those interactions like? Adrienne,

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do you want to start? Oh, great. For me, it was

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more encouraging, I think, my faith and seeing

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the people there and just how faithful they were

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and how reliant on God they were and how hopeful

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they were. we're fairly privileged here relatively.

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And I was like, wow, I am not grateful enough.

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I am not hopeful enough. So yeah, for me, it

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was a real encouraging piece. Sure. Yeah. What

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about for you, Alex? Yeah, well, it's interesting

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because I think the first time I went a couple

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of years ago, then I especially noticed a lot

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of differences too. Because the first time I

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was going to a country that was different than

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Canada, I think, or like much different. And

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so, yeah, I think the privilege thing was...

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has been a really big thing as well where we

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don't even really clock how we live our life

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on a day -to -day basis and how much like and

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I mean Honduras is very like Christian like country

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as well which is great too so not like as much

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persecution I guess I suppose but like like there's

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not really any stakes for us right now in Canada

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as well and like we have such a good life and

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having seeing these people and seeing how much

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they rely on their faith and god is to like just

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survive and even the role of the church in honduras

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as well is a lot different too like they have

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to take the role of doing a lot of the good in

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the the communities as opposed to um like how

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it's the countries are set up too so like they're

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going in and teaching kids how to like prevent

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violence in their communities or like the whole

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like thing of just like taking growing making

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sure everybody grows up well it's like that's

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a role that the church is taking on too like

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there's so much more that they have to do or

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like that they are taking on then that we have

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to do here is come on a sunday right and so like

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it's really obvious like how motivated they are

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to benefit the good of their community and yeah

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just relying on god's guidance for that i think

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yeah for sure and like In Canada, for better

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or for worse, we have a lot of government services

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and a lot of nonprofit agencies that do some

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of that work and do it really well most of the

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time. So as a local church, we don't necessarily

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feel that same pressure, like you were saying.

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But when those services are lacking, the church

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really becomes a community center just as much

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as a place of worship. yeah, is really helping

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people. Um, yeah. What about for you, Petra?

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How's this sort of shaped your faith? It definitely

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has encouraged my faith just to see how I think,

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um, God still blesses those people, but just

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not in material ways. Like even when I see them

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living in their poverty, they're still joyful.

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They're still faithful. And so it just shows

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me that like, sure. Um, like living in poverty

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is horrible, but they're still like faithful

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and they're still blessed by god and they're

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still just i don't know um yeah yeah for sure

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there's that real sense that like god like sometimes

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people will say you know like that god blesses

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us through material wealth, right? And your experience

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is showing you that that's not true, right? God

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blesses all people regardless of their material

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circumstances. I think for me as well, the whole

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gratitude piece, the fact that here are these

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people living in what we would consider abject

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poverty. And yet they're hopeful. They're all

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talking about, we do this for the children. They

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want to make the lives better for their children.

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And just the faith that they have, the hope that

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they have, it amazes us. And the whole idea that

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there is no social safety net like we have here,

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and the church being that, and how much more

00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.039
the church needs to be, just really opened my

00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:27.160
eyes to a lot of how things... are um how things

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actually happen in other parts of the world sure

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yeah yeah yeah and so cool to see yeah again

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the church's role in that and how really like

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i think back like even to scripture in like acts

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you know it talked about there was no need among

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them because they provided for each other's needs

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and they cared for the widows and all of these

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things right and like that's what the church

00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.299
should be i think right yeah yeah yeah so cool

00:23:52.299 --> 00:23:54.960
that you get to actually see that in in action

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Is there anything else, like, if folks are, like,

00:24:00.539 --> 00:24:02.900
thinking about this sort of experience or they're,

00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.940
you know, they say, okay, what's, like, one thing

00:24:04.940 --> 00:24:07.240
that you want everybody to sort of know or remember

00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:11.200
about Honduras or about this partnership with

00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:14.960
World Vision? What's one final thing that we

00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:18.579
might want to leave folks with? Do you have anything

00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:20.000
to add there, Alex? Yeah, I guess one thing,

00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:23.920
too. Like, it was obvious to see how here, too,

00:24:23.980 --> 00:24:26.190
you don't really see the, effects necessarily

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of the support that you give for countries like

00:24:29.289 --> 00:24:31.450
that but it's like if you go on a trip like this

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and you actually see even like this yeah world

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vision taking us around to places that they're

00:24:35.930 --> 00:24:37.690
involved in and interventions that are taking

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you can actually like see how that money is being

00:24:40.970 --> 00:24:44.450
used like in the physical space instead of just

00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:46.369
being like oh yeah i could sponsor a child or

00:24:46.369 --> 00:24:49.170
whatever like seeing that that's very real like

00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:51.730
there's people on the end of that as well and

00:24:52.299 --> 00:24:55.299
that they and even kids that have sponsors too

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like they like not necessarily want a connection

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but like they're like you're not just like a

00:25:01.799 --> 00:25:03.980
nobody to them too like you're a physical person

00:25:03.980 --> 00:25:06.460
like it's these are real people and your need

00:25:06.460 --> 00:25:09.319
like the needs are very real and the the money

00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:12.730
there is just it's all It's all there. It's very

00:25:12.730 --> 00:25:14.089
clear. So if you go on a trip like this, this

00:25:14.089 --> 00:25:16.829
makes it more obvious and it really puts that

00:25:16.829 --> 00:25:20.549
perspective into place. It puts it in 3D. And

00:25:20.549 --> 00:25:22.769
for me, I think of World Vision as such a giant

00:25:22.769 --> 00:25:25.710
organization. the boots on the ground there were

00:25:25.710 --> 00:25:28.109
really impressive. Like the people that we met

00:25:28.109 --> 00:25:30.250
at the world vision office that would come with

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us to locations, like the kids knew them, the

00:25:32.349 --> 00:25:34.069
teachers knew them. They're very ingrained in

00:25:34.069 --> 00:25:36.750
the community. So it's not just like, you know,

00:25:36.750 --> 00:25:39.289
some overarching thing that doles out money to

00:25:39.289 --> 00:25:41.230
different programs. They are there, they are

00:25:41.230 --> 00:25:44.170
working, they know people. Um, so, you know,

00:25:44.190 --> 00:25:46.190
we were able to plug in a lot easier because

00:25:46.190 --> 00:25:48.369
they already have those relationships. So that

00:25:48.369 --> 00:25:51.269
was really, really nice to see. Yeah, for sure.

00:25:51.470 --> 00:25:54.769
Yeah. I'd say very similar. The fact, that if

00:25:54.769 --> 00:25:58.269
anyone had ever had a concern or questioned where

00:25:58.269 --> 00:26:00.769
their World Vision dollars went to, or should

00:26:00.769 --> 00:26:04.329
they participate in sponsoring a child in the

00:26:04.329 --> 00:26:08.450
chosen program, to know that absolutely, as Adrienne

00:26:08.450 --> 00:26:10.690
said, the staff there were just so amazing. They

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knew the kids by name. The kids would see them

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coming and come running up to them, give them

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hugs. They are doing an amazing, amazing job

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down there. you know our support can only enhance

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that right and so if if anyone has ever questioned

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based on what we saw the dollars that we give

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are are making it to where they need to be and

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and the kids who are there the families that

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are there are benefiting so gratefully from every

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dollar that we give And it was really cool, too,

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with the sponsorship party as well, just being

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able to see a lot of the kids that Trini has

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supported all in one spot. When I was filming

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that, too, I was like, oh, man, this is a really

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special kind of thing. Everybody's right there.

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Yeah, for sure. Anything else you wanted to add,

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Petra? I think that's it. Okay. Just agree, agree,

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agree. Good. Well, thank you all so much. This

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has been a really fun conversation, a really

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great way to sort of get an insight into what

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God is doing around the world and how we get

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to partner with World Vision, but ultimately

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partner with God in doing God's work in the world.

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And so thank you for giving us an insight into

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that. And thank you for tuning in to this week's

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episode of Trinity Talks. I hope that you've

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also found some encouragement and comfort and

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maybe even a little bit of challenge in these

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stories. And we'll see you again next week.
