1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,640 Hello everyone and welcome to Trinity Talks and happy Thanksgiving! 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,380 We're so glad that you're joining us here for this Thanksgiving episode of Trinity Talks 3 00:00:12,380 --> 00:00:15,520 and I'm joined here by Suresh. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Welcome Suresh. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,520 Thank you very much. 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,520 Thanks for having me. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:24,460 Yeah, well, so Suresh and I were just going to sit down and talk a little bit about Thanksgiving 8 00:00:24,460 --> 00:00:30,080 and so I know you've done a bit of history and research into how Thanksgiving started 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,600 in Canada so maybe you want to start sharing some of that knowledge with us? 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:41,480 Yeah, I was curious because I mean, I got to Canada about 20 plus years ago, but this 11 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:46,080 season, you know, the rest of the world celebrates the Harvest Festival Thanksgiving. 12 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:54,400 So it wasn't totally new, but historically because I read up some sites and I realized 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:59,120 that the big Thanksgiving south of the border, we proceeded that. 14 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,200 We were like 43 years earlier. 15 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Okay. 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,480 That was one. 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:12,000 And secondly, I ran into an article that the Time magazine had done and that's showing 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:17,720 the differences between the Thanksgiving in the United States and in Canada. 19 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,760 And they said, unlike the Americans, the Canadians give thanks because they're not Americans. 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,760 Okay. 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:31,960 I thought it was funny, but they had a point there because at the time when this started 22 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:36,920 in Canada, the Civil War was going on and everybody was trying to escape north and coming 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,240 here and saying, oh, thank God we're not down there amongst. 24 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:47,320 That was one, but otherwise it is the Thanksgiving is. 25 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:55,120 I just saw that when the parliament officially declared Thanksgiving as a holiday, they called 26 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:04,560 it a day of general Thanksgiving to almighty God for the bountiful harvest with which Canada 27 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,240 has been blessed. 28 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,280 And that still remains there today. 29 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Okay. 30 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,280 Yeah. 31 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,280 Yeah. 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,280 And so Thanksgiving, yeah, as you said, it's a time where we give thanks for this bountiful 33 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,720 harvest and so obviously food plays a big role in Thanksgiving. 34 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:28,040 And I know at my Thanksgiving table, we would often have turkey and potatoes and gravy and 35 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,160 different vegetables and usually some sort of a pie for dessert. 36 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Does that sound like what you might have? 37 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Yes. 38 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,200 For the last 20 years, yeah. 39 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,960 I mean, we have our family plus an extended family, a couple of guests that, you know, 40 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:47,200 the dining table has like 10 people in there. 41 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,080 In our family, the problem was half loved turkey and they couldn't have a Thanksgiving 42 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,240 without turkey and the other half didn't like. 43 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,040 They needed a roast beef. 44 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,040 Okay. 45 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,160 Now, when you look at putting them in the oven, each needs four or five hours and I'm 46 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,160 the chef. 47 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,640 So that was a lot of strategy, but we got better at it. 48 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:07,240 But the rest of the stuff is the same. 49 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,040 You have the harvest vegetables and all of that. 50 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Like any parts of the world celebrating harvest festival, I guess. 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Yeah. 52 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,400 And actually I was talking with Libby this week, who's our worship director here, and 53 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,720 she was saying she's going to have 16 people over for her Thanksgiving dinner and they're 54 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,600 going to have turkey, but they're also going to be having a leg of lamb. 55 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,760 So that also sounds quite good. 56 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,760 Yeah. 57 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:37,280 I mean, turkey has their affection I guess, but not everybody goes for it. 58 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,280 Yeah. 59 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Yeah. 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,320 And so, as you said, that there's often a large group of people at your house and Libby's 61 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,440 having 16 people at her house. 62 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:53,480 So obviously gathering with friends and family is another really important part of Thanksgiving. 63 00:03:53,480 --> 00:04:00,360 And I asked some of our friends here at Trinity about who they gather with for Thanksgiving. 64 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,800 And some folks sent us in some photos. 65 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,080 So I think the first photo that we have here is of Jordan's family. 66 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,260 Yeah. 67 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:12,600 So this is Jordan with his family all gathered around the table last year. 68 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,040 It looks like at this point the meal is all over because they're sitting around there 69 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,040 playing cards. 70 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:21,520 There's I guess 10 or yeah, around 10 people there. 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Yeah. 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,720 Just enjoying their Thanksgiving meal. 73 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,720 Yeah. 74 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:33,400 That's, I mean, besides where it started in giving thanks for the abundance and the blessings, 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,040 it's become a family affair, right? 76 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:46,800 I mean, a time to catch up and nothing better than breaking bread to engage with family 77 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:47,800 and friends. 78 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,800 For sure. 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,860 And Lisa also sent us a photo of her family. 80 00:04:52,860 --> 00:04:56,760 This was back in 2020 when COVID was sort of still happening. 81 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,200 So they couldn't all gather inside. 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,200 So you can see they're all gathered around on the patio there. 83 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,200 They've got their warm mugs. 84 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,120 There's probably something warm in there, some cocoa or coffee or something. 85 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,240 And there's a patio heater there. 86 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,880 So yeah, another great way to gather. 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Yeah. 88 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:22,080 I remember those days we insisted that everybody coming to our table would have to take a test. 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Yes. 90 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Yeah, those were the days. 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,080 Glad it's over. 92 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,080 Yes, me too. 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Me too. 94 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Yeah. 95 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:35,040 And speaking of gathering outside, Alex, who's our media director here, said he often goes 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,840 camping with his family over the Thanksgiving. 97 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:40,480 And so he sent us some pictures. 98 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:46,000 You can see there Alex and his brother and their dog going out for a hike, it looks like. 99 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,720 And I think there's another picture there of Alex and his brother with his mom. 100 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,720 Yeah. 101 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:56,960 I suppose it's one of the last few days you could do that before it starts to get cold. 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,800 That's another thing for us Canadians is, I mean, it marks the next oncoming season 103 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,400 and here's your last chance, get out, do it. 104 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Yeah. 105 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Yeah. 106 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,220 And the beautiful weather, I think that's one of the things, fall is one of my favorite 107 00:06:12,220 --> 00:06:17,280 seasons because it's a beautiful season and a great time to just go out and see all of 108 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:22,440 the colorful leaves and enjoy some of the cooler weather and things like that. 109 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Yeah, I'm a photographer and a drone pilot and this season's like, I mean, it's crazy. 110 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Yeah. 111 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:38,280 Talking about Thanksgiving stories, I was leading the session for our life group and 112 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:46,600 we had Deb and Dwayne, Dwayne's next captain of Air Canada flights. 113 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,560 They did one Thanksgiving, they ended up in Peru. 114 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,560 Okay. 115 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:58,680 And they had this lovely barbecue meat and our man was really thoroughly enjoying and 116 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,920 then he asked the host who was very gracious because they were visitors from abroad and 117 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:04,920 what is this? 118 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:05,920 And he said, it's cake. 119 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,320 I said, okay, it sounds like something good. 120 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,960 So he asked his friend, what exactly is cake? 121 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:17,040 He said, you know, those guinea pigs you saw when we walked in, it's a delicacy. 122 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,280 And I read up, they have about 25 million and it's equivalent to your Turkey and many 123 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,640 parts of Central America. 124 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,640 So you know, you've got to figure out what you're eating. 125 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,640 So yeah, yeah. 126 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:28,640 It's good. 127 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,720 I suppose different meats for different places for sure. 128 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Yeah. 129 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:40,280 So when I was a kid, we obviously had Thanksgiving, but there was also just lots of sort of fall 130 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,240 traditions and things that happened. 131 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:49,280 So one of the things in the area where I grew up was there was a pumpkin people festival. 132 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,280 And so in this small town, there were all of these pumpkin people. 133 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,640 So they're kind of like scarecrows where there are people that got a wood frame stuffed with 134 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,240 hay and they have these pumpkin heads. 135 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,560 And so every year there is a different theme for these pumpkin people. 136 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:15,440 And so I think this year, this picture that we're seeing now was from quite a while back. 137 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,400 But I think there was like a British UK sort of theme because we have the royal family 138 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,520 and we have kiss and things like that. 139 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:29,800 But yeah, so we would drive around town and see all of these different pumpkin people. 140 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,680 And that's a really sort of fun fall memory that I have. 141 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:40,080 I suppose growing up outside of Canada, fall looks a little bit different. 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Oh yeah. 143 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:46,800 I mean, this is one thing I'm so thankful for is for the four seasons, right? 144 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:52,540 I mean, I probably crib over winter, but I mean, you wouldn't have learned to appreciate 145 00:08:52,540 --> 00:08:54,160 one without the other. 146 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 So I spent a lot of my time in the tropicals. 147 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:03,720 I mean, I did work in almost every continent in the world except Antarctica. 148 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:11,040 So it's nice to be warm throughout the year, but it's no different from the next season. 149 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,260 So yeah. 150 00:09:12,260 --> 00:09:18,680 So looking forward to winter, getting out of winter and fall is the prettiest of the 151 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:19,680 of the lot. 152 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:20,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 153 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:21,680 Love it, yes. 154 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:22,680 Yeah. 155 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:28,920 And actually, I have a friend who goes to our church here, Rupali, who grew up in India, 156 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,440 but she said that she always dreamed about seeing the fall leaves in Canada. 157 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,280 I guess she had seen pictures or seen it in movies and things. 158 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,560 And so she moved to Canada. 159 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:43,240 And one of the reasons that she picked Canada was specifically to come to see the fall leaves. 160 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,120 You're not disappointed for sure. 161 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:51,440 And so we have this picture here of Rupali enjoying the beautiful red maple leaves in 162 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,440 the fall. 163 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,440 Yeah. 164 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:59,400 When I saw those paintings of those, you know, brightly colored trees, I really didn't believe 165 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,680 I thought the artist was taking too much of creative freedom. 166 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,480 I see that. 167 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,320 And I mean, he couldn't really do justice to what nature can do. 168 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Yeah. 169 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:11,320 So it is beautiful. 170 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,320 Absolutely beautiful. 171 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,320 Yeah, it is. 172 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,320 Yeah. 173 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:21,320 So what are some of your favorite fall memories? 174 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Food and family do come first because, yeah, my brother and family and our family and the 175 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,160 girls bring a couple of friends. 176 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,400 And it's a good time. 177 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Like I said, breaking bread is a great stuff. 178 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:40,080 And, you know, having a break. 179 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:46,760 And then we invariably go out to take some pictures or go to some harsh farms and look 180 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,760 at the pumpkins. 181 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:53,520 I never figured out why pumpkins figured so, so center of everything. 182 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,800 But yeah, they look good. 183 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,420 That's been almost every year. 184 00:10:58,420 --> 00:11:06,200 This is the first year that we, me and my wife was here, Deepa, we were alone because 185 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,360 the girls have decided to be globetrotting. 186 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,040 One's in Japan and one's in Austria. 187 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Okay. 188 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,760 So, so I don't know, we'll go in, you know, a small thing somewhere. 189 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Sure. 190 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Yeah. 191 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,760 Yeah. 192 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,160 And so what was it like for you coming into Canada, like you said, that Thanksgiving is 193 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,920 a bit different than some of the other harvest festivals? 194 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,160 So how did you sort of learn about Thanksgiving? 195 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,280 Harvest festival in India is very much like in England, you know, people brought in the 196 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:42,080 best of their produce in the earlier years, but lately it's your preserves like your jams 197 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,960 and marmalades and pickles and what have you. 198 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,640 And it was auctioned off. 199 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:54,200 And the money went into a particular fund that took care of seniors and I don't know, 200 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,400 widows and orphans and so on and so forth. 201 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:04,360 So it was exorbitantly priced to bid up and take it to a level so you could create funds. 202 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:10,220 I think that that goes all over Germany and most parts of Europe and some parts of Asia. 203 00:12:10,220 --> 00:12:11,400 That is the tradition. 204 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Yeah. 205 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,920 But in tropicals, the harvest festival takes a couple of months. 206 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,880 It depends whether you're up north or down south. 207 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Sure. 208 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:29,280 But coming here, giving thanks for the abundance and the blessings was somewhat similar. 209 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:35,320 But throw in the weather and throw in the turkey and the pumpkin. 210 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:42,360 I suppose we have got on board so much that we've been doing exactly the same for 20 years. 211 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,680 That's the beauty of Canada. 212 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:47,840 You know, you buy into it and that makes you a Canadian. 213 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:48,840 Yeah. 214 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,320 So are there certain special foods that you would have at harvest time in India that would 215 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,360 be different than what we might have here? 216 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:02,680 Mostly fresh, like we would do with root vegetables here. 217 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:08,100 We would do with fresh produce there, like zucchini and then gourds and stuff and make 218 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:15,480 little vegetable side dishes that go with bread or rice or whatever. 219 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,660 It depends which part of India, but India in their harvest festival do not focus on 220 00:13:20,660 --> 00:13:21,660 live animals. 221 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:22,840 So it's not so much meat. 222 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:29,080 It was more of the abundance of harvest from their farming stuff. 223 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,360 So it was usually, especially the state province I come from, which is down south, it's an 224 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,400 all vegetarian meal. 225 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,600 Maybe a fish you could throw in, but not meat. 226 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,880 So it was a hugely different thing. 227 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,880 Yeah, yeah. 228 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Very different for sure. 229 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,720 So I thought just to end off, it might be fun to have a couple of would you rather questions. 230 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,720 Yeah. 231 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:58,120 So the first question that I have, would you rather cook the meal or wash the dishes? 232 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Oh, I love my cooking. 233 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Okay. 234 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,320 And I suppose I learned to be a good cook so that I never have to wash dishes. 235 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,320 Okay. 236 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,520 It should answer your question. 237 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,520 Yes. 238 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,080 I think that would be the same for me. 239 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,960 I would definitely rather cook. 240 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,520 Washing the dishes, I mean, it's nice when they're all done, but it's not creative enough 241 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:18,520 for me. 242 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,520 No. 243 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,520 Okay. 244 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:28,600 So would you rather in the traditional Thanksgiving meal have no potatoes or no stuffing? 245 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,640 I'd rather go for the potatoes. 246 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:32,640 Okay. 247 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,640 Potato fads. 248 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 I've done a few years doing the stuffing. 249 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,040 Probably on the side. 250 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,080 I never gave it to the bird. 251 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Okay. 252 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,080 Yeah. 253 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:42,080 I think. 254 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,080 What about you? 255 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,080 Yeah. 256 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,520 I think for me, I think I would rather keep the stuffing. 257 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:52,040 I do like potatoes as well, but I think with all of the other vegetables, the stuffing just 258 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:57,400 has a special flavor that I like. 259 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,080 Do you do it with a lot of sausages and stuff or is it just plain? 260 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,080 No. 261 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,520 So usually, so to be fair, I haven't cooked a lot of stuffing. 262 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:11,120 I eat my mom's stuffing and other people's stuffing, but no, usually it would be, so 263 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,680 my mom actually recently has been getting some turkeys that come with the stuffing already 264 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,680 in them. 265 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,680 Okay. 266 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,680 Okay. 267 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,720 And so it's just got that nice herby flavor that I really like. 268 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Would you rather dress up like a turkey or dress up like a pumpkin? 269 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,600 So you said the turkey and the pumpkin, those are the two things. 270 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:38,080 I've never thought about either of them, but I know what the turkey stands for and where 271 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:39,080 it comes from. 272 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,080 Yes. 273 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,160 I've figured out where's the pumpkin's role in the whole thing. 274 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,160 Okay. 275 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:44,160 So I'd go for turkey. 276 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,160 Go for the turkey. 277 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Okay. 278 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,160 I think me too. 279 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,120 I think, I don't know, a turkey just seems more fun. 280 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,400 You could have more fun with it. 281 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Yeah. 282 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,760 From after what Rob told us about raising his turkeys. 283 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Yes. 284 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Yes. 285 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,640 That's right. 286 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Would you rather have pumpkin pie with whipped cream or apple pie with ice cream? 287 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,320 I'm an apple fan. 288 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Okay. 289 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,440 We buy it out of the notion that you've got to have it for Thanksgiving. 290 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Yes. 291 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,960 But otherwise I'd always go for apple pie. 292 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Okay. 293 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:17,960 You? 294 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,680 I think I'm more of a pumpkin pie person. 295 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,240 I mean, I like both. 296 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,360 Yeah. 297 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,640 But maybe I would put the ice cream on the pumpkin pie because I like ice cream too. 298 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:27,640 That's good. 299 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,480 But let me ask you another version of that. 300 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,840 Would you have a pumpkin pie right through the year if it were available or would you 301 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,840 have only apple pie? 302 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:34,840 No. 303 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,840 See, I got you there. 304 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:36,840 Yes. 305 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:37,840 It could be apple pie. 306 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Yeah. 307 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,760 I mean, I like other kinds of pies too. 308 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,360 So yesterday I made a lemon meringue pie. 309 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,360 I love that stuff. 310 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,360 Yeah. 311 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,360 So that's really good. 312 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,360 Yeah. 313 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,120 And my mom in the summertime makes a really good strawberry pie. 314 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Oh. 315 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Good. 316 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Just lots of different kinds of pie. 317 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,200 I haven't learned to bake because it calls for too much precision and I just throw in 318 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,840 everything until it tastes good and that's it. 319 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Sure. 320 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Yeah. 321 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,840 Good stuff. 322 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,840 Yeah. 323 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,680 Would you rather eat your Thanksgiving dinner with chopsticks or with your hands? 324 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:19,080 I mean, I've never caught the art of eating with chopsticks, you know, around to pat. 325 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,120 I mean, I can do it because I'm forced to, but with the hand, yeah, we Indians learn 326 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,120 to eat with the hands. 327 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,120 That's true. 328 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:27,120 Yes. 329 00:17:27,120 --> 00:17:28,120 There you go. 330 00:17:28,120 --> 00:17:30,200 There was a time I think when it was Gary and Nan were at home and we were teaching 331 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,600 them how to eat with hands. 332 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:32,600 Okay. 333 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,600 I'm sorry. 334 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,600 They got an F, so. 335 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Okay. 336 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,600 Yeah. 337 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,120 I think I would probably go with my hands too. 338 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:45,320 I'm, if people have tried at different points to teach me how to use chopsticks, but I'm 339 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,320 not a very good student. 340 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,320 It splits apart and drops off. 341 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,960 But I, my daughter is in Korea, so I guess they are totally chopsticky. 342 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,960 Yes. 343 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Yes. 344 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Well, hopefully she's learning well. 345 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Yeah, she's good. 346 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,960 Yeah. 347 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,960 That's good. 348 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Yeah. 349 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:10,720 There's one thought I'd like to live, which I can't remember the name of the person, 350 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,720 Dawson. 351 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,320 He said being grateful or gratefulness is a default mode. 352 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:22,120 You could be grateful, but to be giving thanks or thankfulness is intentional. 353 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:24,280 You really need to do it. 354 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,920 So be thankful, not just grateful. 355 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,920 Yeah. 356 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,920 Yeah. 357 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:29,920 That's a great note to end on. 358 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,920 Thank you. 359 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,920 Yeah. 360 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,880 So happy Thanksgiving to everyone. 361 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:38,640 I hope that wherever you are and whatever your circumstances are this weekend, that 362 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,240 you will find some time for gratitude and joy. 363 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,240 Happy Thanksgiving everyone. 364 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,240 Okay. 365 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,240 Have a great weekend. 366 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,240 Have a great weekend. 367 00:18:47,240 --> 00:19:04,280 See you all later.