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Hello everyone and welcome today to Trinity Talks.

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I am so excited to have Kyla Lowness joining me for a special conversation because Kyla,

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you are going to be sitting in this chair in just a few weeks.

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And I just would love to have a conversation with you and just get to know you a little

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bit better.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Sounds great.

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I think it's going to.

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I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

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Trinity Talks, right?

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Of course.

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With a game.

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Of course.

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Because it's always more fun with a game.

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And because it's just you and I doing this, I thought perhaps I could play too.

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Sounds good.

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You know, I have to say that over the past couple of months or almost a year now, I watched

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the three participants or guests play their games and there's been just this inkling

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of jealousy that I don't usually get to participate.

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So because this is my last Trinity Talks, I would like to involve myself.

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Right.

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Games are always more fun with two.

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Exactly.

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All right.

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So I know we have some random questions inside this basket and maybe it's not so much of

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a game as a, I don't know, just like a get to know you icebreaker.

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But I would like to graciously ask you to draw one question first and answer that question.

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Then we'll switch.

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Okay.

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So I answer it myself.

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You answer it yourself.

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Okay.

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My question is chocolate or vanilla?

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And my very easy answer is always chocolate.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Well, we're similar in that sense because I would say chocolate as well.

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Very rarely would I choose vanilla over chocolate.

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I can't even think of an example.

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All right.

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I'm not sure what kind of questions we have in here.

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Maybe they're all going to be that easy.

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Most used emoji.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'm just going to say a side note here.

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When I see the word emoji, I remember a long time ago, maybe 15, 20 years ago, the word

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used to be emoticon and I'm not sure when it changed to emoji, but this just is one of

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my questions that I have that probably will never be answered.

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Sure.

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But my most used emoji is probably the heart.

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Okay.

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Or I really like using the yellow face with the teeth.

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Like I don't really know what's going on kind of face.

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Maybe it has a name.

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As the online engagement director, I probably should know the name of that emoji.

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So if there is a name, I would love it if someone could tell me, but it's the one with

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the teeth.

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What about you, Kylie?

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Do you use an emoji often?

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I mean, I feel like my most used emoji is probably just like the really basic happy face emoji.

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I also use hearts, I guess.

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Hearts.

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Sometimes it's a way of saying I agree with you or putting a tone in the message.

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I definitely don't use a variety of emojis.

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The hieroglyphs of modern day.

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Yes.

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If you had 25 hours in a day, what would you do with the extra hour?

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It's a good question.

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I feel like I might sleep an extra hour.

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If you had to be general about it, I might say sleep as well.

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Just get an extra hour of sleep in.

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I mean, there's some days where like, okay, I need an extra hour to accomplish some household

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chores or something.

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Get something done.

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Most of the time, just an extra hour of sleep would be good.

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I hear you on that one.

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Let's see.

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Let's do a couple more of these.

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Let's see.

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This one says, would you rather be able to be invisible or read minds?

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All right.

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Personally, I think I'd choose invisibility.

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I think it's just maybe just more control over it for myself.

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I would be able to choose when I am invisible and when I'm not.

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Right.

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Harry Potter style.

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I think reading minds could be a little bit maybe confusing if you are hearing so many

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other voices.

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It's confusing enough hearing our own voices in our head, right?

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Definitely.

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Another question.

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This one.

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Coffee or tea?

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That's a simple question.

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Yes.

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If I had to pick between the two, I would pick tea.

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But I don't like coffee at all and I don't really like tea that much.

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I'm more of a hot chocolate person.

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Hey.

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I like it.

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I'll do two more and you do one more.

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If you could be an animal, what would you be and why?

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I don't know why I even have an answer to this question.

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I think I would choose a giraffe.

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I don't know if they have any predators.

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Which is one thing that I would like.

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I think they just look like they have such a lovely free life.

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Sure.

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Also, I think being an eagle would be fun because I would love to be able to fly.

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I'm just curious.

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What animal would you choose?

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I don't know.

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I think... I really like penguins.

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They're my favorite animal.

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That's my number three, to be honest.

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I don't know if I would want to be a penguin because it would be super cold.

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But also they all huddle together and keep warm, so it might be fine.

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There's pros and cons to being a penguin like anything else.

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What sport would I like to play in the Olympics?

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Now keeping in mind that I do not play any sports currently.

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When I was watching the Olympics, I really enjoyed watching beach volleyball.

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Great.

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It looks like I understand the rules enough that I feel like I could figure it out.

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I might not be great at it, but I can give it a try.

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But you know that it gets within the realm of possible possibilities.

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Last but not least.

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Oh, I don't like that question.

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I'm going to choose the other one.

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Cat or dog?

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On the count of three, say your answer.

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One, two, three.

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Cat.

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Should we just end the interview here?

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I knew you were going to say dog, so I knew that'd be funny.

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So Kyla, you are joining us here at Trinity as the new online engagement director.

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And those of us who have been here at church have seen you and you've read, we've seen

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you in many different capacities actually within the church.

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But many of us may not have gotten the chance to get to know you.

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So could you take a moment maybe just to tell us a little bit about yourself?

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Whatever you like.

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So I think the first thing that I usually tell folks here in Ontario is that I'm not

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actually from Ontario.

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Welcome.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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So I grew up in Nova Scotia and I lived there for the first, I don't know, 22, 23 years

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of my life.

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I went to school there, did university there.

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And then the first time I moved to Ontario was in 2019 when I actually came to attend

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Wycliffe College to do my master's in theology there.

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Of course, 2019 was followed very closely by 2020 when the COVID pandemic sort of started

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in Ontario.

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And so I was actually only here for less than a year before I moved back out east because

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it didn't make a lot of sense to keep living in downtown Toronto in the middle of the pandemic.

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Right when you're isolated.

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Yes, exactly.

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So went back and lived with my parents in New Brunswick for a couple of years.

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And then I moved to Mississauga in 2022 when I got a job in Mississauga.

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And I've sort of been hanging out here ever since.

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Yeah.

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I am really passionate about helping churches to learn more about how to love their neighbours

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and how to build communities together.

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And so that's something that I studied through my master's of theology and something that

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I've been starting to do some work on in my previous role with Canadian Baptist Ministries.

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And yeah, something that I'm hoping to sort of figure out how we do that well in Trinity

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for our in-person and our online congregations.

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And then in my free time, I really like going hiking and spending some time, especially

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out by waterfalls or just sitting out by a lake.

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And I enjoy baking and trying new recipes.

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Oh, amazing.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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So maybe you can tell us a little bit about yourself.

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I know, again, you've sort of been around for a while, but maybe folks don't know you

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personally as much.

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I have to say, I thought this would never come.

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I've been sitting in this chair for a year and this is the first question I've been asked.

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So it's throwing me off a little bit.

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I'm just joking.

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But I'd love to share a little bit about myself.

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I myself am an Ontario native.

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I grew up here in Ontario, in Sarnia, Ontario.

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I came from a big family, like a big extended family.

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I have a brother and a twin sister.

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And yeah, I just had a lovely upbringing there, lived near the water, like Huron.

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I did go and study biochemistry at McMaster University and there I met my husband, Elliot.

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I did train as well to be a teacher.

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So I have a bachelor's of education in primary junior.

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Elliot and I did move to England, to London for two years.

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He worked there and I pursued a master's at the University of Oxford in child development.

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And when we returned, I did some work in education, private, sort of private and administrative

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stuff.

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And we ended up having three lovely daughters, Josie, Cece, and Gloria.

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And we were living in Mississauga.

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We moved here actually, it was for work related things.

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And we found Trinity about 11 years ago.

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And it became, it really did become a home and it really has become a family here.

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So it's been an amazing part of our lives.

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Now recently, about just about a year ago, we did move to London, Ontario, and that was

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for work related reasons for Elliot.

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And we've been actually loving that new community there as well.

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I mean, personally, I love, I'll just tell you a little bit about some of my interests.

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I love to go out for walks and hikes as well.

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I also love to jog.

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I love to run out in nature.

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I do like to paint with watercolours.

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I like puzzles.

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I like to cook and spending time with my kids and my family.

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Great.

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Yeah.

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And as you said, you've moved to London, you're transitioning out of this role.

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So wondering, what are you going to miss about this job and being part of this family in

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this way?

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Well, I think, like I said, I've been at Trinity for 11 years, well before I even began this

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role as the online engagement director.

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So I think the biggest thing that I'm going to miss is the weekly connections with this

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church family.

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It has been a wonderful place of people that has seen me and my family through some highs

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and some lows as well.

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And it's where I really came to know and connect with Jesus on a very deep and beautiful level.

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So I think I'm going to miss just those connections here at the church as well as the music ministry

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and the teaching and the sermons in this role, particularly.

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I think I'm going to miss those specific connections that I've made with the online crowd.

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Many of them I have learned, or many of you, I've learned your names, we've talked, we've

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communicated over emails or over the phone or over Zoom.

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And it has been just such a privilege to be able to meet and connect with people in that

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way.

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So I think I'm going to be missing that.

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I also think I'm going to be missing some of the technology work that a little bit of

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a skill set I developed here that I didn't know I had.

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So there's definitely been some fun creative elements relating to the technology website,

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social media that I will be missing and then maybe looking to integrate and implement into

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the next steps of wherever I go.

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So you've been in this role for around a year or so.

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What are some of the things that you have learned during this time?

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All right, let's just stick with technology.

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As someone who did not even use Facebook, I would say that I have learned so much about

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the technological aspects of communication.

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I've learned how to build a website and to update the website.

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That's a big thing.

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But I think I did the podcast.

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So if you haven't downloaded our podcasts on Spotify, those are great.

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They're wonderful tools to be able to listen in.

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But I think what I've learned is I think I've just learned that people are really what make

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the church.

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And being able to do things like I'm doing right now, like sit down with you and hear

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your story and to hear your wisdom and to learn about your experiences is that's what

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really just sort of strengthens the fabric of a church community.

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And I think that being able to do that professionally has encouraged me to want to do that maybe

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outside of the professional realm a little bit more as well.

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So I think I've learned that sitting and taking time to hear the stories of other people,

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to share experiences non-judgmentally can really, as I said, help to strengthen the

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fabric of a community, which I think is really what we're intended to do.

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Yeah, that's great.

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And so as you are looking ahead, what's next for you?

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Well, we are settled now in London.

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So if anyone is out in London, Ontario, we would love to host you over at our house.

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We have a nice yard that backs onto a conservation area.

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So it's very beautiful.

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I'd love to have some guests over.

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No, in just a couple of weeks, I will actually be starting to teach in a grade four or five

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split class.

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So I will have my own classroom at a school not too far from my house and I'll be transitioning

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into being a full-time classroom teacher.

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So sort of dusting off literally the old books and the old supplies and getting back into

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the swing of things that way and just balancing the daily life of kids and their activities.

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And then looking as well to find a church in London that we can connect with there.

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We would love to stay connected with Trinity, but of course, we also know that having a

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home church and a home community nearby is very important.

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So we will start the journey and exploring a new faith community in our new city.

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That's it.

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So that was wonderful to be able to share and talk like that.

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Yeah.

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No, it's good to learn more about you and where you're at.

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And of course, folks have been sort of following you and connecting with you for so long.

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It's nice to be able to see you off into the next thing.

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Well, I appreciate it.

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I appreciate it.

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And I would appreciate the prayers too, as we look for a new church as well from you.

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But you Kyla, we're moving into you.

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You're going to now be filling this chair in just a little while.

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So I'm wondering if you could tell us a little bit maybe about your experience here actually

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at this church and maybe with things you love about the church as well.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah.

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So like I said, I moved to Mississauga in 2022.

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And when I moved here, things were still very much in sort of a lockdown state.

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And so actually for the first month or so of my interactions with Trinity, we're all

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online.

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We're watching our services being live streamed and there was no in-person congregation at

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that point.

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Right.

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And so after doing that for about a month, things started to open up a bit more.

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And I came to my first in-person service at Trinity.

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I think it was in March of 2022.

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And since then, yeah, just finding whatever ways I can sort of help and support the ministries

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that are happening here.

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A lot of my connections have sort of happened informally through conversations with people

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or through...

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So you mentioned like sometimes I'm reading scripture or helping to do the media stuff

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at the church and all of that came about because somebody said, hey, we need somebody to do

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this this week.

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Can you do it?

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And I said, sure, why not?

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So there's been some of those connections.

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And then also in the last about year and a half or so, I've also been serving on Trinity's

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board.

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And that's been a really good experience just to get to understand a little bit more about

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how the church works, how an Anglican diocese works.

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And yeah, just what are some of those things that are sort of happening behind the scenes

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that I think actually gives me a really good sort of frame of reference for coming into

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this job.

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And I also in the past year helped to coordinate a neighborhood assessment team that took place

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here at Trinity.

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So we sort of did...

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We spent, I think it was about eight weeks going through, looking at different areas

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of our neighborhood, looking at what are some of the needs?

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What are some of the assets and the strengths and the challenges?

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And figuring out how can we as a church really serve our community best?

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And so that was, again, a really good opportunity for getting to know the church a little bit

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more, getting to know the community a little bit more.

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And I think has well positioned me to go into this role.

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Definitely.

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And I would just love to comment that I remember back in March, I believe, it was either early

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March or late February when I had you and the team on from that assessment.

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And we had a wonderful conversation.

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So we do have an episode of Trinity Talks dedicated to the neighborhood assessment.

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And if you have not seen it and would like to watch it, please make sure to find it on

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YouTube or again on our podcast, Spotify.

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And it was a really informative conversation.

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I remember that.

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So looking forward to perhaps most in this new role for you.

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Yeah, I think first and foremost, I feel like I'm coming into this role as a learner, as

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someone who has all of these connections and maybe has some ideas.

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But I really want to start by just laying some groundwork for myself, getting to know

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who are these people who are tuning in, who are connecting with us, and then getting to

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know what are some of the things that our online congregation would love to see happening?

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What are some of the ways maybe that they're already using the internet or social media?

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And how can Trinity help to enrich those aspects of people's lives?

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And as I think about what does it mean for us to have a virtual congregation?

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What does it mean for us to have a community of people who maybe will never walk through

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the doors of the church?

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I want to figure out how do we replicate the hospitality and the community that you experience

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when you walk through the doors of the church in a virtual space.

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So right now when you walk in the doors of the church, you are greeted by people who

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are saying, hey, welcome.

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We are glad that you are here today.

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And you get your little name tag.

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And so you get to talk to people in the service and in coffee hour afterwards and just share

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life together.

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And so it would be great if we can figure out how do we build a space where people can

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connect and share life and have conversations even if they're in different physical spaces.

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So I don't know what that looks like yet, but I'm excited to figure it out.

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No, but I feel like the door is wide open for you on that one.

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And I really do look forward to seeing where this ministry goes, where it transforms into,

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where it evolves.

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I'm just so thrilled that you are able to step into this role with such a great attitude

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and with such a great passion, I think for not only this church, but also for the big

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sea church, the church of the world.

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And it would be great to see how we all sort of fit together in that and then see where

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your role sort of takes us there.

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So thank you, Kyla, for joining me.

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And maybe you want to have a final word?

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Yeah, no.

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I want to say thank you, Elizabeth, for laying the groundwork for this job.

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I think as I was thinking about it, I don't necessarily step into brand new things really

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well.

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I like to have something to build on.

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And so I think you've given me a really solid foundation on which we can start to build

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new things.

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And then the other thing I would just say is to folks who are listening or who are watching,

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yeah, please reach out.

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Like I said, I want to learn and I want to get to know folks.

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So looking forward to the opportunity to do that.

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For sure.

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All right.

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So that's Kyla Lowness and me, Elizabeth Archer for this episode of Trinity Talks.

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Take care, everyone.

