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Hello everyone and welcome to a very special episode of Trinity Talks in the summer time

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here and it's special because I have got three youngish guests who are all going to be going

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through a very important time, a time of change this summer as they are going to be moving from

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high school into the next stage of life. So I'd like to welcome Hannah and Sean and Sophia

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and thank you for taking time out of your summer to join me here for this conversation.

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So thank you and welcome. Yeah, so you have all graduated high school. You all passed?

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Yeah. Yes. Yeah, no, you all graduated and you've all been accepted into university. So you're going

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to be looking like your days and your next I guess school year is going to look quite different

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from what you've been used to. So I'd love to talk to you a little bit about that change

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in your life and about what you're looking forward to and even about how faith is going to play into

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that. So before we get started, I just love to hear from you what you are going to miss or what

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you think you're going to miss about your high school years. Okay, I think I'm really going to

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miss some of my teachers. Yeah, definitely. That was the hardest thing is I goodbye to and then

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the friends, of course. Yeah, that'll be different. Okay. All right. Honestly, of all the things,

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yes, is it going to sound really sad, but it's probably how close I live to where my high school

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is now. Fair. Going to University of Toronto, right? I'm going to be commuting for like an hour

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and a half, which is kind of brutal. Okay. So that's a thing. But also like friends and teachers

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for sure. Diversity of subjects too, because now it's like we're kind of pigeonholing, right?

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That's right. It's more specific, which is a great segue into the game we're going to play in just

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a few minutes. For me, definitely the friends. But also I'd say just like being a high schooler

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and having less responsibility. Yes. A little more free. Yes. Yeah. That's for sure. You're

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right. There's going to be a lot more expectations, I think on you next year. But I think it'll,

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knowing you guys, it's going to be great for you. But Sean, you mentioned that there were a lot of

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different subjects you took in high school. And you may have thought you were done with all of that,

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but little did you know you were going to be on Trinity Talks at Trinity Streets, Phil. And you

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have a notebook in front of you. Okay. And we're going to play a little game before we get into

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more of our questions. And there are eight pages inside there. And I have eight questions for

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you relating to different subjects. Oh, no. This is what I love about being the host. Relating to

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different subjects you would have taken and you did say you graduated. So let's put that knowledge

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to the test. Now, before you get nervous, I don't expect you to know really any of the answers to

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these questions. All of these questions are numbers based. And I'm going to see who gets

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closest to the number. It's not like math questions. Okay, good. So I've got my subjects here in front

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of me. I'm just going to shuffle them for no real reason other than for the visual effect.

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And I've got, hmm, I'm going to pull out my history question. So all of you would have had to take

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history if you aren't familiar with the Ontario curriculum, you would have taken it in grade 10

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and perhaps later on as well. And my history question is this and it's from, I even have my

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sources written down. Oh, the website Canada dot CA. So we can't argue with that. In what year

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was Canada discovered? Oh, Lord. I know. Guys, guys, I'm going to tell you, I don't know,

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didn't know the answer to this. Like discovered is in like John Cabot. Oh, okay. Oh, that we're

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going back. We're going back. We're going back. And I am grateful for the website to remind me

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that it was John Cabot. So in fact, if you're listening into this conversation, you'll be

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getting a history lesson as well. Okay. Take a seat. All right. And just discovered just,

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we're not, we're not judging. We're not judging here on Trinity Talks. This is all for fun.

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And certainly I'm not sure many graduates would know the answer to that. So this is no,

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this is not going to revoke your acceptance to university by any means. All right.

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You have to skip this episode. This is bad. All right. Our next subject is French.

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Who are you? We're moving on. We're moving on because this is a, this is a,

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did anybody take French all four years? I did not. Oh, okay. I be kid over here did we did not.

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No. So who took it more than one year? Okay. Who did more than two years? Okay. All right. So

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this question is from a website called Boussou. What? Okay. Sorry. Nice. I can't, I can't vouch

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for the credibility of that website. But how many accents are there in written French? Oh,

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in written French, right? Not like the, like, I will say that written French,

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in English, we don't really have many or I might be speaking out of turn any at all written accents.

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However, in French, okay, there are some written accents. I'm going to take a safety. You don't

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need to name them. You just need to write the number. Draw these out. You can draw them out.

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There will be bonus points for anyone who can name them. No, not really. But I must say that for

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the winner of this Trinity Talks game, I have a Tim Horton's gift card for a copy to get you fueled

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up for your university days. Okay. The non, here, maybe the camera can show this, the non

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appropriate name for phys ed, just gym class. Nice. Got a gym question for you. And this gym

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question is really quite unrelated to anything you would have done in phys ed class. But that is,

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what is the speed of the world record for the 100 meter men's? How many seconds in seconds?

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How are we supposed to know any of this? This is crazy. It is crazy. But you know what that's

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what you get here. So it's in seconds. And what I would actually encourage you to do is you can

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round to the nearest two decimal places. Two decimal places. Specific. Oh, God. Okay. That's

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right. So this is just in case you're very close, nearest. What was this 100 meter race? 100 meters.

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100 meters? You same bolt. Okay. So fast. We're thinking fast. Okay. Right.

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Now here, who here ever did track and field? Yeah. When I was like middle school. Yeah,

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same. Okay. High school something different, man. No, those kids are intense. They puke on

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the field and stuff. I'm like, no, this is another level. Okay. Oh my goodness. Let's go.

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Let's go with this subject here. English, which we all had to take English. Yes. And we're all

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speaking it now. So no getting out of this one. So the maybe one of the most famous authors and

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playwrights in English history was who Shakespeare? Excellent. So how many plays did Shakespeare write?

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Oh, this is from a website called the Folter Shakespeare Library. How many plays did Shakespeare

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write? Let me count. Oh my gosh, guys. Crazy. Yeah. Okay. So some of you actually are counting

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the plays in your head, which is, yeah, there's gotta be like just impressive that you can do that.

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You're definitely ready for university. He has so many other little ones. So no, just like how

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many? I'm just taking a safe guess. Yeah, just is okay. I would say this in the number of plays.

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Okay. That's as much as I can share with you. We're not going to need to name them. So in grade

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nine, you would have taken geography. Absolutely. I'm pretty sure from my recollection, this question

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was not even part of the curriculum, but how many official countries are in the world? And this is

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according to the website worldometer. Yeah, okay. I feel like it is so real. Talking about test

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anxiety. Yeah, we're coming. It's all coming out. Okay. Official registered like officially. Yeah.

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Yes. Registered countries. Not the unregistered ones. Not the unregistered ones. Correct.

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We were talking about registered countries only. All right. I'm going to ask you guys,

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would you prefer to do the math question or the science question? Are we going to do both? Yes.

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Just do math first. Get the words to over. Okay. And this is going to be somewhat timed,

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because I'm sure some of you could come up with it. If you took long enough, this is our only

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actual math question. Is it a times two question? 61,728. What was the number? 61,728 times two.

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Okay. I'm just going to talk over you while you guys are thinking and scribbling

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over there. I see actually you're doing your calculations. You're all regretting coming on

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the show today. I know that, but it is just a times two. We could have made it much more complicated.

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And as you're coming up with that answer, I'm going to be looking at my, I'm just like,

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he's scratching stuff out already. Oh, period. The one. Right. All right. Square root of 44.

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No, I'm just joking. All right. Science. Just moving on guys. Science. This science question

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is actually biology based. Okay. And according to BBC Wildlife Magazine, how many different types

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of species of insects are there in the world? And I will accept to the nearest million. I

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thought you're going to say decimal point. And I was like, there's decimal points. You could say,

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you could use a decimal point as well, but I will be kind enough to say to the nearest million.

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How many of us are there right now? There's a million. There's four of us in this room.

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No, I mean like of humans. I forget how many. There's one humankind. That's one. I'm not saying

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species. I'm saying how many of us. Who's the quiz master now? Okay. In millions. Okay. So those

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are actually, you should have seven questions. And my last question for you is as you are all

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university bound. How many publicly assisted, publicly funded universities are there in Ontario?

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Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Publicly funded. Like, what does that mean? Well, there are some private

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universities and colleges out there. But the ones that are funded, they get receive funding. So

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U of T, Gualt, Windsor. There are some colleges, especially in Ontario that are privately owned

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and operated that do not receive funding from. So colleges and universities? We're just talking

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universities. Canada. Okay. Oh no, you wanted colleges? Well, no, what I'm saying is because then

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because then have to come back next week and we'll do the college edition. Oh boy. Okay. I'm

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going to guess. Okay. So it's locked in. The wheels are turning. I love this. And we are having a

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lot of fun here. I'm excited. I'll be the official scorekeeper. If you get it, if you were the

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winner, then you will get a point. If two people tie, then you will each get a point for that round.

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So number, what was our first question here? Our first question was, I believe the year history,

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history, the history question. That's right. So let's just show our answers to everybody.

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Okay, but they can't even fortunately, some of your kind of read that. Okay. I already know this

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is. I see 1812 for Sophia. I see 1787. Yes, I love the I made up the last

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1803 for Hannah. Well, back in 1497, Canada was. Oh, so it's close. So Canada was actually

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discovered the land. So Sean, off by only 300 years. If there's any consolation, you were all in

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the same ballpark. So there you go. That's good. Wonderful. So our next question was the French

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question. Yeah. Correct. All right. How many different accents are there in written French?

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Like I see three for Sophia, four for Sean, five with the correct answer was Hannah.

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Look at your, guys. What did you, I knew I was missing one. No, I was missing one. So it's

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the accent, a goo accent, graph. The, I believe I miss the dot dot dot dot dot. Well, there's a

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C D in Easter conflicts. Oh, I know. So we've got, there we go. Perfect. Four years of French down

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the drain guys. Absolutely. Yeah. That's like embarrassing for you. It is. It is. That's all

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right. That's all right. Our next question was which one? Were we doing Shakespeare? No, that

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was like, I think Jim. Oh, the gym class. Okay. How many seconds is this world record?

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Not 9.23 for Sophia. I can't. 15.03 and 11 plus. I weigh over. So you were so close. 9.58.

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Whoa. 9.58 seconds. That's impressive. That's, that we overshot. We did. We did. That would have

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been the world record maybe 200 years ago. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think it was 200 years ago.

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The Olympics are on right now. Maybe we could find that. Oh yeah. That's right. Okay. So far,

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we are tied. This is a nail biter. Okay. Our next question was Shakespeare, right? Yes. Yeah.

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Okay. How many plays does Shakespeare write? I definitely underestimated. I overestimated.

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I definitely underestimated. Okay. So Hannah thinks she underestimated with 24.

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Sean thinks he overestimated with 50. And Sophia is our Shakespeare expert. She said 35 and he

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wrote 38. Hey. That's crazy. That's good. But you were again, you were all in the same, you know,

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you know, and said hundreds. Yeah. So we're good. I don't think I would have gotten any of these

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right to be honest. Our next question must have been the geography question. How many countries

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in the world? Yeah. According to worldometer. Okay. So unless you were looking at worldometer

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before this, you probably don't know the answer. 172, 180, 160. You were all so close within the

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very close range. The answer was 195. So Sean takes another one for me. Okay. So we are at

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two, two and one. Now math, our multiplication question. Hannah, what did you come up with?

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It's, it's this one. It's this one. One, two. One, two, three, four, five, six.

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I don't know. One, two, three, four, five, six. Yeah. And I'm not sure what that is there, Sean.

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It's one, one, two, three, four, five, six. Oh yeah. Yes. Yes. One, two, three, four, five.

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Okay. So it was a comma at the wrong spot. So it was one, two, three, four, five, six. I'm sorry,

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Hannah. You put a comma after the 12. I put a comma. She put a comma. So because you don't,

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that's all right, actually. You don't need to have a comma. I remember that from grade school.

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You got hurt guys. But if you put the comma in the wrong place, you don't. Unless you're writing

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in English, if you're writing the number like in a paragraph, apparently you have to have that.

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But in math, they're like, no, don't do it. It's weird. Oh, that's bad. Really? Okay. I did know

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that. So two questions left. Um, science or wait, what was first? Oh yeah. A number of insects,

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species of insects. Species, right? Yeah. Species, not the number. So Hannah says 11.3 million.

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That was so specific. 13 million. She said to decimal point. I wanted to do decimal point.

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This is 23 million. Wow. Hey guys, we only have 5.5 million insects. Oh. So Hannah,

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you got the point for that one. Last but not least, how many universities do we have in Ontario?

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Did you say eight? No way. Eight? Okay. I had 15 was my first and then four and then eight.

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18. Oh, means over here. 19. Oh my goodness. I didn't write down the answer there. It was,

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oh my goodness. I don't have the answer in front of me. I know it was more than that. Can we come

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back and I will find that answer? Goodness gracious. Look at the tension. Nailbiter. This is a nail

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biter. I'm going to come back at the end and just tell you what that is. It's on my phone. All right.

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So stay tuned to the end of Trinity Talks. What a way to keep our audience engaged.

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It's all intentional. Okay. We're going to come back to that at the end. So I'm wondering,

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oh, I'm a little excited. What is next you're going to look for, like for you?

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Jean, you referenced U of T, but I'm wondering where is everyone going to be going

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to school and what program are you going into? Okay. I'm going to go to Guelph and I'm going to

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be going into human kinetics. Wow. Wonderful. Exciting. Yeah. So Guelph. And are you going to

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be living in residence or in a house? Yes. I did get into residence luckily. Yes. Perfect.

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Love it. Okay. And what about you, Jean? Yeah. Like I said, I'm going to University of Toronto.

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I'm going to mess up the pronunciation because every time I say my major, it's bad,

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but I'm hoping to do a double major in political science and international relations. There we

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are. Relations. Perfect. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Very good. And I'm also going to Guelph. Nice. Child

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studies. Cool. I did not get into residence, but I found a house I'm going to be leasing with

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and my friends. Oh, that's exciting. All right. Well, very different for all of you. And I love

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that. What sort of inspired you to make this decision? Did anyone help you in the process?

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Is it just a passion? Just curious, how does someone your age decide where to go?

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This was a long decision for me. And there are many tiers involved too. I'm going to tell you

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that it was very stressful. Really? It was a big pros and cons list. Yeah. Giant pros and cons list

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actually. And then I think what it came down to it was like the feels of the school. Like when I

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went, I visited most of them. So yeah. Yeah. The vibe I like. Yeah. You can see yourself being there.

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Yeah. Exactly. Very nice. Maybe Sophie, I'm going to go to you next because you're also going to

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go to 12. For me, I talked to a lot of people about it, but I have some friends that go to 12.

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So they obviously know a lot about it. And I worked at camp obviously in the kids program.

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And that like really cemented that I wanted to work with kids. Love it. Very good. It's a great

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program. And what would you, Sean? Well, my whole university thing was very odd because I literally

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applied to three places because I was like, I'm not looking at all of these universities. I'm not

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doing it. And I was like, I'm not, I'm not looking at the, what is it? It's the, here, OUAC, like the

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fees or whatever. I was just like, nah, I was like, there's no reason. That's right. I think you can

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apply to three and then there's more to apply to. And then I got into, I got into Carlton University

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for their journalism. And that was like a big, ooh, maybe for me. Right. But then I was like, oh,

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that's a lot to go live on res and to live in Ottawa. It's like, I don't know. I don't know if I

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want to go there. But then I got into UTM, which is the University of Toronto campus right here

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in Mississauga. And I was like, oh, it's close. I'm like, it's literally a five minute bus ride

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from my house. I was like, that's really convenient. But then I went there and I was like, I don't really

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like the energy. It's like, it was kind of, right? It fell a little flat to you. Yeah. I,

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originally like UTM was like the choice because I was like, well, it's super close. And I mean,

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like, I don't have to uproot my job or anything else to go. So that was good. But then as soon as

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I got the acceptance letter from St. George, I was like, dude, I have to go. It was like literally

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immediate. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. All right. You mentioned that you applied to three

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universities. And while the camera was on you, I actually had a chance to look at the number of

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universities. So we're going to go to that now because it's weighing on my heart. How many

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universities did you say, Hannah? 18? For context, how would I know? Look at how low this is.

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That's eight. That's eight. That's eight. How would I know? I applied to more than eight universities.

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And 19 for Sophia. I, yeah. Guys, the answer was 23. Sophia. Nice. Did you apply to all? So Sophia's

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our winner. So Sophia, you are going to be the recipient of a gift card. Oh, yes. Exactly. So

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congratulations. All right. Sorry, I couldn't let that one sit. But going back to the questions,

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what are you most looking forward to about your next stage of life?

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Definitely not doing my own laundry. That's something I'm not looking forward to.

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I guess, well, that's a hard question. I mean, going to university in general, I'm excited to

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like get more depth to the field. But as far as like living alone, I mean, like eating what I want,

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staying up late, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yep. Decisions you don't usually get to make

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all the time on your own here. What about you, Sean? This is kind of a nerdy answer. So like,

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bear with me here. But I'm very excited for the access to libraries at U of T. I'm actually like,

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that's going to be so cool. Right. Which, like I said, it's nerdy, guys. It's nerdy. But like,

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there's so much out there too. But also like, particularly because of the stuff that I'm interested

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in, all like a lot of the U of T professors I'm going to have are really cool. And like, I've

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looked into a few of them. It's like, ooh, I'm really excited to hang out with those people.

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But also like, just the program that I'm in and going into the courses that I'm going into minus

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economics, because it sucks. I don't want to take it. If anyone knows an economics tutor,

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please tell me because it's going to be bad. But like, I'm really excited for those sorts of courses

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and being with people that are interested in the same stuff. Yes. Oh, real. Right. Yeah. Meeting

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friends that are going on the same trajectory to absolutely. Absolutely. I'm definitely looking

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forward to the independence and like, yeah, getting a chance to experience so many new things,

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like living alone. And yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's and the course content being more like curated to my

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interests. I love that. I love that. So I heard from Hannah that laundry is something that you're

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not looking forward to. Sean is economics. And maybe Sophia, you have something. Is there any

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other fears that you're holding right now about going off to university? Oh, I mean, this is a

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fear for second year, but cooking. I'm notoriously really bad in a kitchen. Okay. Like really bad.

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So I've been joking that I'm going to be the super senior on a meal plan. Luckily,

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luckily, Guelph has good food. So worse comes to worse. I think I won't starve. Okay. Okay.

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For sure. Honestly, economics is part of it. Of course. That's like the big one. Right. I took,

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I took a course for non specialist. So I won't have to do so much math, which is good, I guess.

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Yes. But another thing is just all of my courses are kind of later. So I don't have a lot of morning

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courses, at least right now. I have a lot of them past noon, which I'm not exactly hyped for being in

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Toronto at night and then having to come back on transit and all that I did. I'm skipping like

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rush hour, which is good. But I mean, it's still nerve wracking. Yes. Nighttime vibes. Yeah,

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for sure. Different, very different. I'm not looking forward to like moving away from my family.

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I'm definitely going to miss seeing them like every day all day. But also in terms of courses,

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for my program, bio is recommended in grade 12, but I did not take it. Okay. And I think there is a

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course like there's genetics that I think might, it might be rough for me, but okay. So science

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isn't necessarily your favorite. No. Okay. Do you have FaceTime for your family? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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You can see them, I'm sure. Just not always in the same way. Yeah, it's close. I'll come back

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often. That's true. That's true. Now, I mean, all three of you are members of the church here,

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and we see your faces almost every week, I would say. Sean, I mean, you're not letting

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necessarily leaving the city here, but I'm just wondering throughout your high school years,

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we're just going to change gears a little bit in the questions, but have you noticed that your

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faith, sort of from being a child to a young adult has developed over your high school years?

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And in any ways, has the church itself helped in that? Just wondering sort of how you've seen

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yourself develop over your high school years in your faith? Yeah, I definitely think it's been

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more like independence, because like as a kid, you're kind of like dragged to church with your

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parents. Yes. Like, yeah. Yes, I have three myself. But definitely when you get older, it's like a

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choice to come, I think. Like, especially for like senior high, like coming to like youth group,

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that was always like a choice because family's not coming for that. It's always obviously just

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for the kids. So I think that's been different, like having it more like personally led than like

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like forced upon you, which has been an easier way to grow, I'd say. Right. Yeah. Okay, thank you.

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Yeah. For sure. Like personally, throughout high school, I found it really hard to like, and as much

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as I've been like on stage doing all that stuff, that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm like,

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spiritually developing. Sorry to break it to you guys, but like it's been hard over the past four

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years. Yeah, right. Like just with all the time that's been taken from school and everything else,

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it's just like having time to actually kind of feel it spiritually is hard. Like I know for the

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past little bit, not to like say talk about worship again, but I mean, for those of you who don't

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know Sean, yeah. So like being there for the like last, I think it was for the last two years of

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high school, I was kind of struggling with being on the worship team and not really feeling it a

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lot. Like I was kind of like, Oh, I feel like I'm, I feel like I'm performing and I'm not performing.

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That's not the point. And I'm like, I don't want to, I don't want to fall into that. So I think with

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everything going on in high school, I kind of was able to move past it a bit because it's easy.

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It's easy to have faith when you don't have a lot going on, you know, or it's easy to praise God

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when you have the time, like it's way easier. So I guess over like the time of high school with

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all the responsibilities and everything going on and like, you don't get to just, Oh, I'm going to

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go home and do nothing and whatever, or have, you know, something else going on, or my Sunday is

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open so I can go to church. Like sometimes it just isn't right. Right. Yeah. So like, I think

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in terms of spiritual development, I've definitely grown in that I'm not, it's not passive. Like it

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was when, when we're younger, right? Yeah. It's not, it wasn't like a priority. But then once all of

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the busyness came in, it's like, Oh, I actually have to make a note in my calendar of that, Oh,

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or I have to go in make time for it or go to the young adults thing, which is tonight, by the way,

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I just wanted to plug it for Jordan. Because if he could be here. But yeah, that's a good point.

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So it has to become more intentional is what I'm hearing. Yeah, thank you. I think for me,

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a big thing that helped me like develop in my faith through at high school was the like,

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as high school went on, I made more friends that were like, had similar beliefs as me. So like,

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it takes a while to find your people sometimes. But definitely by the end of grade 12, I've like

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found a good crew at my school who had like a shared faith with me and we could talk about it

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together. And then I also found some communities in Mississauga, like I go to obviously the youth

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group here, but then I also go to a youth group. It's like a citywide youth group. And that really

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helped me in my faith. Okay, so getting involved with other people who are of a similar faith to

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you has really been helpful. So being with people and building those relationships. I think all of

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those are like a lot of wisdom just came out of you three. So but now we're looking forward and

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we're going to be moving away from high school years. And I'm wondering how you maybe hope in

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terms of your own development in terms of growing your character or your faith, or even learning

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and socially, emotionally, what are your hopes for next year? That's a heavy question. So feel

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free just to take a minute to think about that. I think it goes back to like independence for me.

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Yes. Because as much as I'd like to say like I'm an independent person, I think you forget how

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much you do rely on your parents, like how much it'd be like late nights. Can you can look over

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this paper? Can you do this? So definitely learning how to do that by myself, especially like

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troubleshooting things, right? Because that's when you most need that kind of support. So like

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making friends and finding your community, like what Sophia said, like building that for yourself,

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that would be my hope. Excellent. Excellent. Well, in terms of hopes, honestly, just hope I come out

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of it not feeling like I kind of wasted time because I feel like over like, like that's kind of the

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guilt that I felt in high school a little bit was that it was like, oh, I wasted all this time where

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I could have been spiritually developing. And then like every so often, it'll be like, oh, I'm kind of

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like numb to it. And then there's just like one sermon or one, you know, thing that I hear. And

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I'm like, oh, no, and it just all takes and it's like, oh, all the guilt of like, I should have been,

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I should have been paying attention to it. Like I hope I don't fall into that. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

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Guilt can be a real feeling. Yeah. At the same time, recognizing it, learning from it and moving

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on through it. It's a great idea. Yeah. I think I really am hoping to grow like Hannah said,

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an independence. Yes. And also like, yeah, just maybe socially, because one thing I regretted

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from high school is I didn't really get that involved at the beginning in like clubs and sports

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teams. And I'm, yeah, I'm hoping to make the most of my university experience. And I think that

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definitely starts with like putting myself out there, kind of right at the beginning.

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Yeah. Right. Okay. Very exciting. Now, just a side note, when I think about that, were you in

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high school during COVID? Yeah. Yeah. So maybe you can give yourself a little grace for that. You're

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stuck on a computer for a while. So first of all, just congratulations to you guys for, you know,

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moving through that, because that was a challenging time for everyone in that situation.

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Now, my next question is about going into university as a Christian. And how do you think

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that is going to impact your experience? And maybe it's not going to, or maybe you're just open to

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seeing it, but how do you think it's going to impact your experience? Does anyone have any thoughts on

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that? That is a hard one. I can, I can start this one. I think that going to university,

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particularly because it's like, it's always like the trademark time for young people where it's

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always like, Oh, suddenly your world opens up and like you're seeing all these other perspectives,

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like we live in a pretty diverse area. Like there's a lot of different people that we come in contact

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with, right? Yes. It's not like, Oh, we used to live in like a suburb, like suburbia in like

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Ohio or something where like there's not, I don't know, I don't know anything about Ohio. It just

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came to my head. So you know, like we're not going from, you know, hometown kind of kind of energy

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to university. It's I don't think it's going to be that big of a shift shift. But I mean, it is

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definitely something that I'm thinking about where I wonder how my faith will be shifted from that.

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I don't think that it's going to change, but I think it might help to strengthen some of those

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things. Because I mean, you only really think about the hard questions when someone is asking

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you the hard questions about your faith. Like, I know that I've seen a couple of videos of like

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people going on like university campuses, and like people asking different questions about faith

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and all of that sort of thing. And I'm wondering how over the next four years talking to people

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about it and like learning from other groups and like what their perspective is on X, Y and Z,

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right, might shift all of that. Absolutely. I love that. I think that it might be a bit of a

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challenge for me. I'm like, I'm not that like motivated. I'd say I'm more like lazy type of

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person. And so if I don't have someone like kind of pushing me to like go to church or like, like,

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you know, we're saying like prayers at dinner and stuff, I think it'll be hard to stay dedicated.

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Especially just because there's so much new stuff and you have to like establish

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that routine like by yourself. Right. And I think just even articulating that and saying that out

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loud is a great first step. Sophia. So that's wonderful. It's also so valid, by the way. That's

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like me 100%. Yes, I think you're probably in good company there. I think for me, it'll definitely

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be a big test of like values. Because going off of like what Sean says, when you're surrounded by

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like a lot of like like minded people, I guess you don't really notice the difference between like

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your values and other people's values, but like going into a new community setting where people

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might challenge those values and people are like, you have a lot of free will and free choice,

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right? You can do whatever you want. So the idea of like figuring out what I truly like believe in

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and what values all hold strong will be interesting. And I think good for me. Yeah.

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Absolutely. Be part of the growing up process. Yeah. For sure. So as

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we wrap up, is there anything that we at the church or maybe even just people that you encounter in

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general, do you think could help to support you as you move towards, you know, your next chapter?

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Anything? I mean, sharing your wisdom. I'm always down for like some old university stories. And I

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know some people are like, they might, it might not be the same, but I think at its core, the whole

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like shift of university and the independence is the same. So I'm always down for any tips,

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shower shoes, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Wear your shower shoes, guys. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Okay.

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Is there anything else or should we leave it at shower shoes? No, I think, I think the wisdom

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is a big part of it, but also like emotionally, because I feel like when we get to like these

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points in our lives, everyone's kind of trying to figure out, oh, here's the to do list of things

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to do so that you don't like screw it up or so you don't, it's always focused on like the

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things to do and not necessarily the emotional side of it. Right. Like I know that everyone's

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like, oh, this is just how like growing up is so you'll figure it out rather than like, okay,

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how are you feeling about this? Like, is this, you know, good? Because I mean, going to university,

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you're going to any post-secondary thing, whether it's like trades or college or whatever you're

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doing, it's a big shift and like change is hard. Yeah. We as a species suck at change pretty much

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like across the board. So even though it's like, you know, it's part of growing up and it's, you

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know, kind of on the trajectory and no, I don't want to go to high school for the rest of my life.

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That's right. Yeah. It's still a lot. Right. So maybe tending more to the emotional side too

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might be good. Like maybe asking like, hey, you want to let go for coffee or whatever? Do you want

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to, you know, just to talk about it on, you know, on our terms too, right? Absolutely. Yeah. That's

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great. I think for me, it's just really comforting to know that like, I have Trinity back here,

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you know, I can come back on weekends and go to church. It's a really like, it's a really great

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community to have there. And I'm sure we'll all stay going to Trinity next year. Right. Yeah. Just

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to know that you can reconnect. It's good. Right. This, although you're moving on, you haven't lost

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what you already have. Yeah. So that's great. And you certainly do have the support of this

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church behind you. And we're looking forward to just seeing how your next couple of years go.

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And thank you for taking the time and your time away from the cookies and coffee over there

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to join me. And Sophia, we're going to make sure we get you that gift certificate.

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And I just want to say thank you again to all three of you for imparting your wisdom

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and sharing your feelings about this next step in congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.