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Having already a nice conversation off screen here with Peter Blundell who is joining us

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because going from one thing to the next today here at Trinity, you come your dance card

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is full when you come to this church, isn't it?

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There's no relaxing.

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No.

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She didn't say, did you want a break?

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Did you want a cup of coffee?

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I actually have a cup of coffee for myself here, but I didn't bring one for you.

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So anyway.

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Sort yourself out first.

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Go girl.

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That's right.

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I know.

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So yeah, we have Peter here and we are going to have a lovely conversation.

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He's laughing away.

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And we're just going to get to know you a little bit better.

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We always say when we have newcomers come, we'd love to get to know you.

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Let us know who you are.

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And then we have a guest preacher come in and we didn't want to give you the boot out

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the door.

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Be nice to get to know you a little bit better.

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So thank you for taking your time here.

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Thank you, Elizabeth.

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That is always good to be here.

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Yeah.

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So you probably noticed that our summer sermon series is called Summer Playlist.

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As Rob was saying, Rob, our senior minister here, was saying that we're going to sing

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our way through the book of Psalms.

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It's the Bible song book.

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And we talked last week about the importance of singing and the power of singing.

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And I was wondering when it comes to music, what type of songs do you like to listen to,

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maybe sing to outside of the church?

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Outside of the church, but only in the shower.

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There are musical people that are on musical people.

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I'm a musical.

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A musical.

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I'm a musical.

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I like the nightingales that are vultures.

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All right.

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When I sing, they literally cover their ears with the wings and then they drop out of the

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sky.

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So you won't want me singing.

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Thank you for a great band this morning.

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That's right.

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Absolutely brilliant.

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Lovely.

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I like, I'm a Victorian.

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I like musicals.

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So that's my go-to.

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Awesome.

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Christian songs.

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And I do like them.

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I like some of the oldies.

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I mean, a good hymn gets you going.

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I don't know whether this is new or not, but I like the newsboys and that sort of thing.

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I like any song with Jesus.

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And that sounds terribly simple, but it really is.

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All right.

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But it's honest.

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It's true.

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And we'll take honest.

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We prefer honest here.

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And simple is always welcome as well.

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I need it.

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Yes, exactly.

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All right.

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So for those of you out there who have never met Peter, maybe you're even watching online.

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Maybe you weren't here last year when he joined us.

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And I know you've been here a few years before that as well.

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Can you let us know a little bit about yourself?

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I can.

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Yes.

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All right.

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I think that was your third mistake.

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I mean, apart from following Jesus, the most important thing you need to know is my wife

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who said yes.

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And I do.

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In fact, she said, I guess.

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And then I made her say yes.

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She's with me now.

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And so my wife is amazing and loves Jesus.

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And she's been my partner for all these years.

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Yes.

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Can I ask how many years?

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We'll be 25 this year.

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Okay, great.

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Next month.

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All right.

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Well done.

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Hello, daughters.

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25th, silver.

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We met actually in Africa.

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I was out there as a missionary.

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Have you heard of the Alpha course?

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Yes, we're actually going to get to that in my next question.

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So I was the Alpha chaplain of Sub-Sahara and she was working for World Vision.

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I know you've got links with that here.

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And so we met in Zambia and she dragged me to this wonderful country.

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So we have two daughters who one has just graduated this year out of McMaster and started

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her job at the beginning of this month, very grown up.

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She's a radiographer at McMaster's Children or Hamilton Children.

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Love that.

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And daughter number two is she's at UNLV, University of Las Vegas.

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Really?

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Yeah, doing professional gambling.

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No, she's not.

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She's not.

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That was a joke.

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She's doing engineering.

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I wasn't sure how to respond to that.

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Yes, I heard that.

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She's going to kill me for that.

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She's going to kill me for that.

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She's on a placement with a wonderful Christian theater group at the moment called Sight and

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Sound.

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They have a place in Branson, Missouri where she is and one in Pennsylvania.

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So, yeah.

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And how often do you get to see your daughters?

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Not enough.

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I'm a very bad empty nester, a really bad empty nester.

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Yes, well, your love for your family shines through.

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So thank you.

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But you did mention the Alpha course.

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And we actually just wrapped up doing an Alpha course here in mid-June.

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It's something that we do try to do at least once a year here at Trinity.

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And we see great success.

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And there's a lot of excitement that comes out of it from our volunteers, the facilitators,

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and then of course the participants as well.

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So what was your role in Alpha?

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Because I think there was some even foundational stuff going on there.

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A little bit foundational, but I don't get carried away with this.

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You might know Alpha started in 1977 at Howard Trinity Brompton in London.

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Charles Mannum, he left in 1981.

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And John Irvin, who is not very well at the moment, so we're keeping him in our prayers.

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He took over the Alpha course.

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And my brother, my older brother, became a follower of Jesus, became like me too, and

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did the 1982 Alpha course that John was leading.

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I'd never heard of it.

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It was very small.

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And he went away for the Holy Spirit talks.

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The first time they were done, John had written them, came back a different person.

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We go to the pub after every service there.

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And I kept looking, are you really my brother?

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Because this is amazing.

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I'd never, honestly never seen this transformation.

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And so I said, what's happened?

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And then he confessed he'd been doing this course.

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And I said, I don't know about Alpha, but I mean, if it changes my brother like that.

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And he said, well, you're leading the next course with me.

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And so that was where I started.

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And when John was going to plant a church in 1985, he handed Alpha over to me to run

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it in 84, 85 at HDB, which was a huge honor.

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I'm very young.

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I'm not much older now, but I was very young then.

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And took it and expanded the course to 11 weeks and introduced the supper actually by

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mistake.

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It was a complete mistake.

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But that's another story.

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So you introduced the supper?

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By mistake.

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Well, then it faded a bit and then they brought it back much more professionally.

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But we did it for a couple of years and that was a lot of fun.

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Well, that's fascinating.

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That's really great.

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So you also mentioned you were in Africa.

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So you have some background with missionary work, church planting work.

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This is where you met your wife.

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But what was that all about?

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How did you get involved in that type of work?

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The church planting is because I went on that first church plant.

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So John, who deserves a medal, John Irvin, he's the most amazing man of God, discipled

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me for 15 years.

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I mean, that's not a medal.

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That's a medal with a bar and a knighthood.

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And so when he went on that church plant to St. Barnabas, 100 of us went with him.

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It's the first church plant the Church of England had done in over 100 years.

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And HGB were brilliant in supporting us, obviously.

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It was fantastic.

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So we got into church planting.

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Always been involved with that.

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But I was then invited to be by the Bishop of Harare, Zimbabwe.

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I'd done an alpha conference down there and he invited me to be his alpha chaplain.

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And that didn't work out because of some issues.

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We won't go into that.

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But it turned out the role transformed.

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And as God does, he takes a bad situation and just does what he does.

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And I suddenly became the alpha chaplain to Sub-Sahara.

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So instead of being one diocese in Zimbabwe, I became the guy.

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And if you look at a map, Sub-Sahara is very small, it's very big.

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And I wasn't paid.

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So somehow that's what we did.

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And he was amazing.

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And I traveled everywhere and got alpha going in lots of different countries.

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Not as many as one would have liked.

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And there were always wonderful people who did all the legwork and hard work.

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And I just talked.

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Well, then I met Margaret.

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Look at what can happen.

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One experience, right?

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Just snowballs into something you didn't dream on your own.

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A man who's got no idea.

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Well, I always joke, if God can talk through a donkey, I'm in.

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That's right.

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The bar isn't that high, is it?

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Really can do anything.

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Let's talk about something that you mentioned to me in an email.

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We had a little back and forth there.

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And you mentioned that I think these are your own words.

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So I wrote them down that you are full on for the Holy Spirit and that's very passionate

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about the Gospels.

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So what's this all about?

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Well, I think it's normal, but I find that people don't feel that same way.

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The Gospels is just amazing.

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I mean, it's not good news for a reason.

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It's great news.

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It transforms.

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Once you taste it, wow.

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But the Gospel, I learned that when I try and explain the Gospel to someone, all I do

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is beat them up.

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I mean, I'm really good at condemning people.

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I get an A grade in condemnation because I want to tell them the bad news because then

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they're going to say, yeah, I need some help.

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I need to save you.

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And all they go is, hey, how dare you touch me, you miserable git.

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And I go like, dang.

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So I mean, anyone is saying you're going like, why is he so slow?

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That's who he uses.

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OK, so it took me longer than it should have done to realize the Holy Spirit does the miracle

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stuff and we're not supposed to.

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We're supposed to be full of the Spirit, but he does that stuff.

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So John 16, 8, the Holy Spirit convicts, which means bring to someone in victory the unbeliever.

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It's the only verse I know of which directly deals with the unbeliever when it comes to

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I know in regards to sin, the position of wrong relationship with God, righteousness,

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the position of right relationship with the Father and judgment.

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Whichever position you are in, you're going to be judged in.

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I don't want you in sin.

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I want to depopulate, help populate heaven.

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But he does that work.

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I don't have to beat you up.

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He does it.

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What's our job if he does that?

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I'm the first witness.

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You're the second witness.

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The last words of Jesus Acts chapter one, verse eight, you'll be my witnesses.

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I'm going to give you the power of the Spirit, not to lord it over, but to be really powerful

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witnesses.

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And people are going to look at you because the only Jesus they're ever going to see is

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you and they're going to say either, well, if that's what Jesus is, I want nothing to

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do with him.

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I want that.

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I mean, I know they've got a mess, but oh my goodness.

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And as Jesus said in John, the last supper, the new commandment, it supersedes the whole

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You know, if you love yourself, well, you know, if I don't happen to love myself very

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much, I have to love you very much.

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The bar is low, isn't it?

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But love one another in the same way that I've loved you.

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Well that's, he's going to, he's just washed their feet.

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He's going to die for them.

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I mean, that's the bar up here.

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And then he said, but if you do that, everyone's going to go like, oh my goodness, they're

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disciples of Jesus.

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There's only people who are disciples of Jesus do that.

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The church, the church has got a weakness in the world's eyes.

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We've got lots of weaknesses, but one of them is we let anyone in.

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And we do look at, did you see the congregation this morning?

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We let anyone in, including me.

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I mean, they look at that and they go like, we wouldn't do that.

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We've got a club.

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We want a membership fee.

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We want to have that.

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We let anyone in.

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Well, that's odd.

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But then when they become family, the crazy bit the world doesn't understand is we love

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each other.

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And they go like, no, you don't get to choose your family.

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We don't, we have problems with family and these guys love each other and they sacrifice

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and they care and they're there.

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And that's only the work of the spirit.

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You can't do that in your own strength.

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I'm a selfish kid.

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I want to do my own thing.

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So it's all that you see.

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You can't do anything of eternal value unless you do it in the power of the spirit.

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And so it's all Holy Spirit, the fruit of the spirit, the maturity to hit the microphone,

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to tell people the gospel and then to live it out as Jesus followers.

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And so people say that's Jesus.

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Fill me in.

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Thank you.

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I love the passion coming through.

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We just finished our sermon series on the fruit of the spirit.

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We are all full of the spirit and fruit, actually, if you had been here, we had done some fun

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fruit things, but I just thank you for your passion and thank you for the joy that actually

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just comes through you.

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We see it.

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It's natural.

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And we can just tell that the spirit is living through you.

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Like I said, we were also going through the Psalms this summer.

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Now is there a specific Psalm that you tend to go to or one that has spoken to you maybe

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in the past or you gave me a warning of this one because I just said someone asked me this

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question.

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I feel not Psalm 91.

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Yeah, not some.

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No, I like the Psalm.

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It was my old school Psalm, but it annoyed me at school.

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Oh, right.

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You meant for the reason.

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And I wasn't a believer at school.

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So I just realized this is nonsense.

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That's why I had to tackle it, you know, and deal with it.

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But I think that's sometimes how God, right?

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That's how he gets to us.

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It's like it's living and active and it gets in here.

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Psalm 84 is probably my go to Psalm.

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And for that reason, I probably never preached it because I don't want to ruin it by going

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too deep into it.

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But it is.

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It's just that Psalm.

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I mean, better is one day in your courts.

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Those who go through the valley of backing, it's the valley of weeping.

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It's a desert.

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But if you walk it, he makes it a place of springs.

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He makes, you know, you go, oh my goodness, you are with me.

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It's just a place of great comfort.

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It's a song of a sense.

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So they are going to Jerusalem to worship.

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So it's often I use it to prepare my heart for going to worship, but also in difficult

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times.

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And then it finishes the second last verse.

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No good thing does he withhold from those who walk his blameless up.

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Actually, it's righteous, which is a position.

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It's not that I have to be that good.

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Just no Jesus.

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But no good thing does he withhold.

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What a wonderful promise.

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It also implies that he's going to keep back the bad stuff.

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So lots of good reasons.

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But that's yeah, that's probably my favorite.

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Thank you.

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I love that.

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Maybe we'll even link it below when we put it on YouTube.

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Have a read of it.

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It's fantastic.

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Well, thank you.

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So what I mean, other than I know the highlight of your summer has probably been coming to

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Trinity, but it's downhill from here.

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It's downhill from here.

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But what else do you have planned with the family perhaps or maybe any other adventures

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this summer for you?

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I'm not much in lots of respects.

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I'm going to be helping out lots of other churches in the summer.

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I find that some pastors, particularly pastors of when they're the sole pastors in a church,

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it's half of them to get a vacation.

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And so often get a phone call saying, you know, can you cover?

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And I think that's a lovely gift I can give to a pastor to say, if you can trust me with

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your pulpit, I'll preach the word.

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You have a good vacation.

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But what I try and say to them is I'd rather you didn't just have one week off and I come

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in and do that week.

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If I can, can I come the week before so you're not working before you go on vacation and

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then, you know, stop.

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And if I came the week after, then you don't have to write a sermon on vacation and not

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trying to find a job.

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But it's more it helps.

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And I hope that's what you're doing with Rob.

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I'm sure he's got lots of people here.

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Love your pastor.

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Take care of them.

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Take care of them.

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They really do love Jesus and they're trying their best.

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Well thank you.

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You will certainly be welcome back anytime because it's always a pleasure to have you

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here.

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And you also probably want to go grab a cup of coffee before we get to service number

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two.

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So I'm just going to say maybe decaf for you over there.

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All right.

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So I'm just going to thank you once again.

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Thank you.

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And we will see everyone in just a little while.

