1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Well, thank you for joining me. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,880 We're going to talk a little bit about the sermon today, and we're going to be joined 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,480 with Rob in just a few minutes, which is going to be really nice. 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,820 How did you find the sermon series that we had leading up to Easter, which was all about 5 00:00:16,820 --> 00:00:19,200 Jesus's last words on the cross? 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,720 The sermon series was really good, as usual. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:31,640 It was really nice to have the words that Jesus spoke while he was going through stuff, 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,440 and it was just a sort of encouragement to us. 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,520 It was, and it was a great lead-in to what we have today, too, wasn't it? 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Absolutely. 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,520 We've got Rob joining us. 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,520 So, thank you, Rob. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,280 It's a busy morning for you, I assume. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,920 It is, it is, but there's so much energy in the room that it just kind of keeps you going, 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,480 and it's very exciting. 16 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:51,680 It's so nice to see such a full house. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:58,160 We've got another service coming up, wonderful music, great prayers, great worship. 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,080 So very, very exciting. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,080 It was. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Well, I just want to see how sharp you guys really are this morning, first of all. 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,200 So, you might notice there's an Easter basket between your chairs. 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,560 You probably didn't, because you just walked in. 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,040 There's an Easter basket, and yesterday we had the amazing community Easter egg hunt. 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,040 So I was here. 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,560 I had the privilege of being here for that, and I tested this out, and I want to see if 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,720 you can make a really good estimate. 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,440 There's an empty Easter basket, and how many Easter eggs can fit in that empty Easter basket? 28 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,440 It does make your basket. 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Like the little chocolate ones? 30 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,920 No, I'm talking about like a standard, actually, Erica and I were talking about this before. 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,320 She asked about the question as well. 32 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,560 I'm like a classic chicken egg style. 33 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:34,560 Oh. 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,280 Like egg shape. 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,120 We do have a conversation coming up, so I'm asking. 36 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,240 I think that's going to be four dozen. 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,440 I'm going to say 48 eggs. 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,440 48 eggs. 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:50,440 Um, probably 33. 40 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Well, actually, the answer is one, because after you put one egg in it, it's not empty 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,160 anymore. 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,160 Oh, gosh. 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,160 You got it. 44 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:00,160 Gosh. 45 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:01,160 Thank God you had that. 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,160 Well, happy Easter. 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,840 And we came to today, actually, we journeyed through Lent, right? 48 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:14,200 So that's the season that we prepare for Easter, and that began way back on Ash Wednesday, which 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,720 fell on Valentine's Day this year. 50 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:22,080 And you reminded us, Rob, actually, this is the message that you remind us that everything 51 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,400 on earth is going to die, right? 52 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,360 You mean these flowers here are going to die and pass away. 53 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,800 But when we were talking about that, you reminded us that the one thing that will survive and 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,760 will live forever is the word of God. 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,160 Yes, that's right. 56 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Yeah. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,040 And then we continued through Lent and we actually looked at the words of God, those 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,040 seven final words that Jesus had on the cross, and they were like these awesome words of 59 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:49,960 promise and forgiveness and connection, humanity. 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,960 And then, wow, today, we get to experience that Jesus's final words were actually not 61 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,960 his final words. 62 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,960 Yeah, that's right. 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,960 He gets to have brand new, fresh resurrection power words. 64 00:02:59,960 --> 00:03:04,320 And I was hoping that in the few minutes that we have today, both of you could share with 65 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:09,800 me a little bit more about the impact of those words and the significance of those words. 66 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,960 And in the sermon, Rob, you really broke it down into four different types of words. 67 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,080 And what were they again? 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:21,480 So I said, when Jesus rose from the dead, the first word that he spoke was this amazing 69 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,880 word of caring and compassion. 70 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,480 And then following that, he uttered this word of, I call it kind of a word of searching. 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,400 It's at least it's a word that he speaks to people who are searching. 72 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,880 I guess you said then he has this word of knowing where he names Mary Magdalene and 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,000 says, Mary. 74 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,560 And then the last one, of course, is when he issues this word of sending saying, now, 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,480 go and tell my brothers and go and go and tell. 76 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Yeah, right. 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Yeah. 78 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,080 So out of those first four words, he has the first words, which you mentioned were words 79 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,080 of caring. 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Yeah. 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,360 So I'm just wondering why you think Jesus chose words of caring. 82 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,200 So our Lord Jesus, his first words were caring, not, hello, here I am. 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,800 It could have been anything, really. 84 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,120 But he opts for words of caring. 85 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,120 Yeah. 86 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,200 You know, I mean, Eric, why don't you go first? 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:18,600 Because Eric can is the head of Trinity's care ministry here. 88 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,600 She's our care coordinator. 89 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,000 So I'd be really curious to hear from Eric. 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,080 And what it sounds like when you hear Jesus saying, Hey, why are you crying to someone 91 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,440 after just rising from the dead? 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Yeah. 93 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Thank you so much, Rob and Elizabeth. 94 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,920 Yeah. 95 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:38,840 I think Jesus always identifies with our pain and he's concerned when we're in pain. 96 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:42,520 Actually, scripture says that, you know, he identifies with us. 97 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:48,000 He wants us to stop crying more or less, whatever is causing the tears. 98 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,040 And so even here at Trinity, we do have a great caring ministry because we want to follow 99 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,960 in the footsteps of Jesus. 100 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:02,480 And so to try and live out the Jesus life, we have a ministry that provides care, different 101 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:08,040 types of care for people in grief, in need, needing prayers. 102 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:12,480 It's a very robust ministry that we have here at Trinity. 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:18,480 It's interesting when you said that Jesus associates with our pain and our suffering. 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,280 It's interesting because normally when we think of Jesus and his connection with human 105 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:25,480 suffering, we're thinking of Good Friday. 106 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,320 We're thinking of the last words. 107 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,320 He's hanging on the cross. 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,080 That's where the connection is happening. 109 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:40,360 And yet now on the other side of the grave, when he's risen from the dead, he is still 110 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:46,680 connecting with our pain, our suffering, which is actually quite fascinating. 111 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,280 It's actually just who Jesus is. 112 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:52,880 It's not part of his ministry, the part that happened on the cross. 113 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,720 It's part of his resurrection ministry as well. 114 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,720 It's just his character. 115 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,720 Yeah. 116 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,720 That's amazing. 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,720 Actually, that is fantastic. 118 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,520 So we had words of caring. 119 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,560 The next words were words of searching. 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,720 He says, what remind me what Jesus says again in his searching? 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,640 He says to Mary, whom are you looking for? 122 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Who are you looking for? 123 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,160 He says that right after. 124 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,680 And you said in your sermon that he knows who Mary is looking for. 125 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,400 He must know. 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,800 He's Jesus after all. 127 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,320 So why are these words? 128 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:27,320 Yeah. 129 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,320 I mean, again, I mean, Eric and I, we chatted. 130 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,600 Well, actually, the three of us, we chatted about this a little earlier. 131 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,480 But yeah, what do you take from that? 132 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Well, I think we're always looking for something as Christians, even when we come to Trinity. 133 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,440 We come because we're looking for somebody or something. 134 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Yeah. 135 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:56,000 So I think the question goes way beyond what Jesus said to Mary, even applying to us today. 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,480 Whom are we looking for? 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Whom are we looking for when we come to follow Jesus at Trinity? 138 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,000 I think it's just something that we have to reflect on and ask ourselves. 139 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:11,280 He's reminding us to reorganize our thoughts and be very specific and directed when we 140 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,040 come to Jesus and say, Whom are we looking for? 141 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Yeah. 142 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,420 I think that sometimes, I mean, people could say, oh, Rob, when you're up there talking 143 00:07:19,420 --> 00:07:20,800 and you were taking these words apart. 144 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,920 And I mean, you were taking so many liberties. 145 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,520 You were, I mean, you were going so deep on these words, which on the surface seem very, 146 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,680 you know, you know, who you're looking for, right? 147 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,240 But I think we have to also realize that especially in John's Gospel, nothing is there by accident, 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:36,240 right? 149 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:44,480 Like all of these words, every sentence, every word is there for us to unpack and go deeper. 150 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:51,200 So I think that's exactly what Jesus's invitation is to us, especially on Easter Sunday is to 151 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,760 unpack that longing that we have, that's the searching that we have within us to actually 152 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,480 really like do some introspection, you know, do some soul searching. 153 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,520 And a lot of people, I think maybe they don't want to do that work or they think they already 154 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,080 know the answer to what they're looking for. 155 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,080 It's a what, right? 156 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,280 I need more of this, more of that, more house, more salary, more friends, more family, more 157 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,280 vacation, whatever. 158 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:19,600 And we think if we just got that, got our hands on that, then that itch, that emptiness 159 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,040 would go away. 160 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,840 But Jesus is saying, no, no, no, look, look deeper, take some time. 161 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,360 It's not even a what you're looking for. 162 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,320 It's a who, whom are you looking for? 163 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,920 That reminds me of the sermon series we had about half a year ago where we were talking 164 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,160 about what makes you happy. 165 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:39,600 And the very first thing that you mentioned or that we learned as a church was that scientifically 166 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,560 proven what makes people happy and fulfilled was not a what, but it was a who, it was a 167 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:46,560 relationship. 168 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:50,320 So Jesus explains that right there in that statement, which is really neat. 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,000 And I just, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that again, I think Alpha, which is 170 00:08:55,000 --> 00:09:00,400 coming up is the perfect forum for people who are searching, people who are longing for 171 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,720 something and they can't even put their finger on it or they have questions. 172 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,840 You know, Mary Magdalene, I think could have taken Alpha. 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,200 I think anyone who's watching or anyone who's in church, we're really inviting everybody. 174 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,520 April 10th at Trinity, we're beginning Alpha. 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,440 It's a place where you can ask those questions. 176 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,480 We provide a nice meal for the evening. 177 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,480 There's childcare. 178 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,480 It's all there. 179 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,600 You can go to trinity streetsville.org slash alpha and you can register and join us and 180 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,080 at least give it a try, but it's the perfect place to ask those big questions. 181 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,080 Yeah. 182 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,080 That's right. 183 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,080 That's exciting. 184 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,080 That's coming up. 185 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,080 It is. 186 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,080 Yeah. 187 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,080 All right. 188 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,320 But Jesus then I'm going to take us back to that garden where he's with Mary and he 189 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,280 then state some words that you mentioned were words of searching. 190 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Nope. 191 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Knowing, knowing. 192 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,920 I'm moving into the knowing now. 193 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,920 Yes. 194 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:43,920 That's right. 195 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Yeah. 196 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,080 Knowing or you might even say recognizing. 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:53,560 Again, you know, it's funny on a Sunday like today, you look out of the crowd and there's 198 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,360 lots of people I don't know. 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,280 And a lot of people I don't recognize and I can only assume everybody's feeling that 200 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:00,280 way. 201 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,280 So, I don't know. 202 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:02,840 Again, Eric, can you take it? 203 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:08,560 What is it about Jesus naming Mary that is so powerful on Easter Sunday? 204 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:09,800 Oh my God. 205 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:17,800 It is so comforting again and encouraging because we all want to be known by name. 206 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,440 We like it when people walk up to us and recognize us and call us by name. 207 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,400 That means we're not just one in many. 208 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,480 We're special. 209 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,480 We're unique. 210 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:32,360 And so I think in that calling Mary, Mary, Jesus is saying a number of things. 211 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,640 I know you, Mary. 212 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,480 I see you. 213 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,920 I know everything about you. 214 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,480 And it's very in that one word, there's a lot of wholesomeness. 215 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:49,360 There's a lot of comforting and acknowledgement of who he is or who Mary is, which is really 216 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,360 what we do here at Trinity. 217 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:52,360 Yeah. 218 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,480 So, again, it's all a part of Jesus comforting Mary. 219 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,480 Yeah. 220 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 When you're fairly new to Trinity, I should say, but you're newer than I am. 221 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:09,600 But did you find it hard to actually get to know people or to feel like people knew you 222 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 when you joined a community like this? 223 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,720 Well, yeah, it always is a bit challenging, but Trinity was very unique. 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,520 I have found Trinity to be very, very warm, very hospitable. 225 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,840 I have written about it. 226 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,880 I've talked about it. 227 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,000 They go out of their way to know people. 228 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,760 And it's even right from when we come into church. 229 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,160 We have nametags so we can call each other by name. 230 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,560 We're not just saying, hey, hi. 231 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,560 So that's unique. 232 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:36,560 It's great. 233 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:37,560 Yeah. 234 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,440 And just as we're talking, you guys can't see this, but there's a coffee hour going on 235 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,440 out here. 236 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,240 There's this hubbub, this din of people, chitting and chatting. 237 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,240 And this is so important to what we do on a Sunday because this is how we actually go 238 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,480 from being faces in the crowd to actually, hey, I'm Rob. 239 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,720 Oh, your name's Elizabeth, right? 240 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,600 You actually start to know that name. 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,320 You move past strangers. 242 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,760 You become friends and you start the journey of getting to know people. 243 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,760 Absolutely. 244 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,760 Yeah. 245 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Absolutely. 246 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,040 And actually, even for our online people, we have a check-in process now. 247 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,960 And so many of you, if you're watching online, have been using that. 248 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,560 And I love it because I know you by name. 249 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:18,200 One of my favorite parts during the pre-show is when Elizabeth looks at her laptop or whatever 250 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:23,240 and she says, I see that Alexander is out there and Bruce and there's Alison. 251 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,520 And it's good to have you. 252 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:30,440 It's so true, Elizabeth, that we want people to be known even if they can't be here in 253 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,640 person, which is hard. 254 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,160 But we're really trying and we're really working at that. 255 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,080 And I think you're doing a great job of getting us there. 256 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,080 Thank you. 257 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,080 Thank you. 258 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,720 And I mean, Jesus says that, and scripturally, I think back to the Old Testament in Isaiah, 259 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,080 Zia, it's fear not. 260 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,080 I have redeemed you. 261 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,960 I have called you by name. 262 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,960 You are mine. 263 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,120 So the importance of the name. 264 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,720 And then he chooses Mary. 265 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,960 So you were mentioning there was a couple people at the grave there. 266 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,680 Jesus waits until there's one. 267 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:56,840 And why Mary? 268 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,440 I wonder, not that you necessarily have the answer, but what are your thoughts on that? 269 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,760 No, that was actually something you said a couple days ago. 270 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:03,760 And I'm still waiting for an answer. 271 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,760 So I'd like to know your thoughts on it. 272 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,760 Yeah. 273 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,040 But it was when we were chatting about this ahead of time, it was you who said, like, 274 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,640 why didn't he do it when the three were there? 275 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,000 Why didn't he wait until just Mary was there? 276 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,280 And I think that's actually a really good question. 277 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,480 There was, have you thought more about it? 278 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,480 I thought about it. 279 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,880 I certainly don't think I necessarily have all the answers, but I can see some parallels 280 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,960 between two gardens, the beginning garden with Eve. 281 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,360 And I can see the beginning garden there with Mary. 282 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,680 So a new start. 283 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:39,320 I also see Mary as someone who stayed close to Jesus and just lived such a humble, real 284 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,680 life as a follower who was a sinner, who was turned around. 285 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:50,200 And I just think it speaks to how Jesus cares really so much about every single person and 286 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,040 about the redeeming quality that Jesus has that can happen in anybody's life. 287 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,040 You know what? 288 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,040 I mentioned this in my sermon, but actually being known by somebody or really letting 289 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,840 yourself be known by someone is very, can be risky. 290 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Because what if you get rejected? 291 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,960 What if they find out who you are and they're like, I don't want to be with that person? 292 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,480 And actually, Mary, now that I sit here and think about Mary Magdalene was one of those 293 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:17,680 people, if I remember the biblical story, I think she was said to have been possessed 294 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,880 by demons or something like that. 295 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:26,200 Like she obviously was the kind of person that maybe others did not want to get to know 296 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,360 very much at all and would have avoided. 297 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:35,000 But or maybe she would have even tried to hide that part of herself from Jesus or from 298 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 others. 299 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,520 But it's perhaps because she was vulnerable and she was able to let herself be fully 300 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,040 known that she could be fully healed. 301 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:50,760 And that way maybe she's the perfect person for Jesus to call by name on Resurrection 302 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Day because here is a model for us to let everything be known, give our whole, give 303 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,320 all that we are, the good, the bad, the ugly, right? 304 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:07,120 Because Jesus knows us just to let our guard down and be known and be loved by Him. 305 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,680 And last but not least, at least as far as we know from the Gospels, when he's speaking 306 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,680 with Mary, he gives her these words of sending. 307 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,000 He doesn't just leave it there. 308 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,480 He gives her some words of sending. 309 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,480 Go and tell. 310 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,480 Yeah. 311 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Yeah. 312 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Yeah. 313 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,480 I don't know. 314 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,800 I said, I don't know if you think it's true, but I said, oh, this is the part that everybody 315 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,560 hates when the preacher says, now go and tell others. 316 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Now go and tell others. 317 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Am I right about that? 318 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Like, is that intimidating for people? 319 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Yes or no? 320 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,040 A lot of times yes. 321 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:41,240 But that's only to the extent that you're trying to do it by yourself. 322 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:46,280 But when there is a recognition that it's kind of each time you send your child or somebody 323 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,960 is close to you on an errand, you empower them to do what you want them to do. 324 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,840 And so when there's the acknowledgement that there is an empowerment, if Jesus is saying 325 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,000 go, then he's empowering us to go. 326 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,040 So when we look at it that way, it's not that intimidating. 327 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,040 That's right. 328 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,960 He definitely felt like she could do it. 329 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Yes. 330 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:13,920 And she was talking because she was a woman and a culture and a time when, yeah, like 331 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,560 of all people, why her? 332 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,280 But he believed she could do it and she did do it. 333 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:26,040 And what I was trying to say, and maybe I didn't say really well at the end was that, 334 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:32,080 yes, we think going and telling means what Mary said, which is, I have seen the Lord, 335 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,360 he has risen, right? 336 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,320 And that, of course, when you walk into a conversation with someone and just say that, 337 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,360 it's like kind of tone deaf. 338 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,720 People aren't ready to hear that. 339 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,720 But that's why I really, I really latched on to where it says, and then she told them 340 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,080 the things Jesus had said to her. 341 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,480 And we just talked about the things that Jesus had said to her and what had Jesus said to 342 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,480 her? 343 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,480 He had said, Hey, why are you crying? 344 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,680 This emotional connecting thing. 345 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,200 He says, what are you looking for? 346 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Write this searching word and this, you know, this word of identification and knowing like, 347 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Hey, who are you? 348 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,280 What's your name? 349 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,240 I feel like, although we feel like going and telling has to be this big and bold thing, 350 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,960 like, you know, he is risen. 351 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:10,960 Jesus is risen. 352 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,280 It actually can be as simple as starting by just saying, Hey, what's going on? 353 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,280 Looks like you're sad. 354 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,280 How can I help you? 355 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,800 Or, Hey, it looks like you're searching for something or let's talk more about that. 356 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Or, Hey, what's your name? 357 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,480 Right? 358 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Like it can start with just that. 359 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:32,680 And then it's in the context of a relationship that Jesus, the risen Jesus kind of speaks 360 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,560 through us and gets through. 361 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,840 So it's not as scary as we might think. 362 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,360 How is we might make it? 363 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:40,360 Yeah, that's true. 364 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,360 Thank you. 365 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,360 I agree. 366 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:43,360 Absolutely. 367 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:47,320 And so I guess how do we take those words now on an Easter Sunday on this resurrection 368 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:48,320 Sunday? 369 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:49,320 Really? 370 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,320 How do we take those into our lives? 371 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,120 Are we to go to our coworkers? 372 00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:53,200 Are we supposed to? 373 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,880 Do you think this is empowering us to talk to those family members around the dinner 374 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,360 tables tonight and just begin with those types of words? 375 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,320 What do you think, Erica? 376 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,480 Yeah, no, absolutely. 377 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Like Rob just said, it isn't a very scary thing to do. 378 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:14,520 It's just in the basic things, in the mundane, in the everyday conversations that and also 379 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:21,480 in who we are, you know, just trying to just be human with another person, just the way 380 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Jesus was. 381 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,600 So, yeah, I think it's just a mandate to go to everybody and anybody. 382 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Yeah. 383 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Yeah. 384 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:35,600 I think for real sharing of the good news to happen, 99 times out of 100, it happens 385 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,600 in the context of a relationship. 386 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,280 So if you already have a relationship with someone, like a friend or family member or 387 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:48,800 whatever, then I think you've maybe earned, you've earned a certain amount of trust to 388 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,840 be able to say something and be heard. 389 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,120 But again, it's a different thing when you're going to a stranger. 390 00:18:54,120 --> 00:19:00,120 You maybe need to begin with building that relationship and building that trust in order 391 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,960 to maybe earn a hearing. 392 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,080 So yeah, again, that's a good question. 393 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:12,520 I'm hoping people go out of here realizing that if this message was shared with us, then 394 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,320 it's one to be shared with others. 395 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:18,640 And just like Mary Magdalene could do it, despite every stroke that was against her 396 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,720 and how she was like, you know, again, her culture and context, she did it. 397 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,560 We're here today because she did it because she told others. 398 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,000 If she had failed to do that, the message would have been truncated, I guess at that 399 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,200 point, but she did it and we can do it too. 400 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,200 Absolutely. 401 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,280 So what I can take away from this is that Jesus cares for us. 402 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,360 He loves us. 403 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,360 He knows what we need. 404 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:43,560 He knows what we want and need. 405 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,320 And he knows us by name and that we are called on a mission. 406 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,800 And that is something that we should be sharing. 407 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,360 What you just said was a beautiful summary. 408 00:19:52,360 --> 00:19:53,360 Good news. 409 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:55,560 That is the good news. 410 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,560 So thank you very much. 411 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,640 We have another service to get to, guys. 412 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,640 Wow. 413 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,560 So out there in the coffee hour, I can hear the people from our 9.15 service and I can 414 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,960 also hear people from our 11.15 service trickling in as well. 415 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,680 So again, thank you and happy Easter to both of you. 416 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Thank you, Elizabeth. 417 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,960 Happy Easter to everybody who's joined us online. 418 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,960 Happy Easter, Erickand. 419 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Happy Easter, Rob. 420 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:15,960 High five. 421 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,960 All right. 422 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,960 See you soon. 423 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Thanks. 424 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:19,960 All right. 425 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Thanks, everyone.