1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,800 Welcome to Trinity Talks, everyone. I am so excited that we have the worship team here, 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:15,440 or some of the members of our amazing worship team joining us today for this wonderful talk. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,960 So because we have the worship team here, I'm officially changing the name of Trinity Talks 4 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:25,440 to Trinity Sings just for today, and it's going to change back to Trinity Talks as of 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:30,480 tomorrow. But top of the morning to you, it's the St. Patrick's Day here. So welcome to 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,880 Libby and to David and to Stephanie. Thank you. Thank you so much. 7 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,440 All right. Thank you guys for joining me. I'm hoping that over the next little bit, 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:43,440 we can talk a little bit about the music ministry here at Trinity. And I think it would be nice 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,760 if we also just get to know you a little bit better as well. We see you up there all the 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,320 time doing your amazing thing and showing your amazing skills and sharing your amazing 11 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,560 gifts. And I think it's time that we get to know a little bit more about who you are. 12 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,920 So thanks for joining me. Thanks for having us. 13 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Now true to Trinity Talks style, I think it would be very nice if we all play a little 14 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,800 game just to warm us up and to have a little fun. What do you think? Let's do it. All right. 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:16,440 So the game I've decided to come up with is called Love Song or Worship Song. All right. 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Now to make this a little bit fair, I didn't make the songs too challenging. All of the 17 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,440 songs are songs that have been on the top billboard, at least top 10. So they aren't 18 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,840 like some weird obscure song. And all of the worship songs, I think are songs that you've 19 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,840 sung before here at Trinity. So I guess what I'm saying is there's no excuses to get it 20 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,360 wrong. Danger, danger. Danger, danger. All right. And I'm not going to single you out. 21 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,280 I'd like to see you guys work as a team to show off your amazing team skills. All right. 22 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:53,440 So we're going to start with this one here. Every place I go, I'll think of you. Every 23 00:01:53,440 --> 00:02:03,520 song I sing, I sing for you. That should be a worship song, but I don't think. I think 24 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,260 it's a love song. You think it's a love song? It's a love song. All right. Do you know which 25 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:14,000 love song? Every place I go, I'll think of you. I know it. Every song I sing, I sing 26 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,200 for you. Sounds like sting. Yeah. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. You think in every 27 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:26,280 breath. Yeah. Yes. That one. I sing for you and I come back. I wear your wedding ring. 28 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,000 It's a leaving on a jet plane. That's what it is. Oh, nice. It's a leaving on a jet 29 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:36,120 plane. Actually number one in 1969, that was Peter, Paul and Mary. Yes. All right. So that 30 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,960 was a pretty good one. All right. Here's one that, I mean, I think, I think you'll know 31 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,960 this one and it just sounds like the opposite. Like an unforeseen kiss and my heart turns 32 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:52,920 violently inside my chest. One of my favorites. Is it? All right. So what is it? Love song 33 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:59,300 or worship song? Worship song. Worship song. And what song is that from? Do you know the 34 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:04,600 name of that song? I know it. Yeah. All right. At the same time? At the same time. Three, 35 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:10,200 two, one. How he loves us. Wow. Very good. That's right. So that's a... Technically 36 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:15,400 you're right. I added the us. You did. It's just how he loves. Okay. We'll forgive you 37 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:21,160 here. Okay. Here's another one. All right. Such a funny thing for me to try to explain 38 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:29,880 how I'm feeling and my pride is the one to blame. That's a love song. Not a worship song. 39 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,600 That's not a worship song. But I know what that is too. What is that? It's really hard 40 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:43,120 not to sing it and just say it. Can you repeat it? Such a funny thing for me to try to explain 41 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,600 how I'm feeling and my pride is the one to blame. Oh, I know. I should know this. When 42 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:57,320 you tell me what it is, I'm going to like... I know. Number one in 2003. Crazy in love 43 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Beyonce. Yes. That's okay. Oh. It's a funny thing for me to try to explain. Oh yes. It 44 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,840 is. That's right. You need that melody. Such a funny thing for me to try. Yeah. I know. 45 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:12,440 It's so hard not to say it like that. All right. The riches of your love. This might 46 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:19,680 be for... You're going to get this one. The riches of your love will always be enough. 47 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:26,160 The riches of your love will always be enough. Yeah. I think I know this one. Can I go? Yes, 48 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,800 you do. Forever rain. Excellent. Well done. Wow. The riches of your love will always be 49 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:38,200 enough. Why am I singing? I love it because it's Trinity Sings. Trinity Sings. All right. 50 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:44,800 We could maybe just take this one off the list here. Okay. We've got another one here. 51 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:52,360 Capture my heart again. Your love is extravagant. Your friendship, it is intimate. In fact, 52 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,520 I don't think we do. Nevermind. We don't do that song. We don't do that song. You know, 53 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,720 it's very... But you know it, don't you? It's very special. I just turned up the album 54 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:07,680 this past couple of days and it brought me back to a long, long time ago when this song 55 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:14,080 was playing. Yeah. What song is that? It's either extravagant love or... Yeah. Your love 56 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,520 is extravagant. Your love is extravagant. All right. I was very good. So that was something 57 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:24,360 by Daryl Evans, right? Wonderful. Wonderful. All right. Here's another one. I believe in 58 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:31,320 you. You know the door to my very soul. You are the light in my deepest, darkest hour. 59 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:41,040 And you are my savior when I fall. Those were a lot of lyrics there. That's a lot of beautiful 60 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:48,040 lyrics that could very well be in a worship song. But I think for the sake of what you 61 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,920 might do in a game, that it is... When you throw the word savior in there. It is a love 62 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,160 song. I think it's too specific. Too specific to... To actually... Yeah. So I'm going to 63 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,000 say it again with a little bit of a rhythm and let's see if you know what song it is. 64 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:08,360 I believe in you. You know the door to my very soul. You're the light in my deepest, 65 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:16,720 darkest hour. You're my savior when I fall. I don't think I did a rhythm there. Well, 66 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:24,720 that didn't help me. How deep is your love? 1970s. Oh my gosh. So I was right. Okay. 67 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,000 That's right. All right. So welcome. So if you've got six out of six out there, then 68 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,280 you are just as good as our worship team. So again, I said we've got Libby, we've got 69 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:36,920 David and Stephanie here with us. And thank you for playing with me. That was a lot of 70 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:42,800 fun. You did well. Now we can relax a little. And I would just love to get started by talking 71 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,400 about maybe people out there are not familiar with seeing you up there on the stage. Maybe 72 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,200 you're just watching the Trinity Talks for the first time. Could you let us know what 73 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,640 instruments you play here at Trinity, but also maybe what instrument you got started 74 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:01,360 with and how you got into worship music. Let's start with Libby. Well, mine is a bit of a 75 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:07,760 long winded thing, but okay. So first instrument that I ever played was actually the fiddle, 76 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:15,160 which I've played on occasion at Trinity, but not often at all. And then I moved on 77 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:24,160 to guitar. And that's what I mostly play here at Trinity, guitar and sing as well. Yeah. 78 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,480 The getting into worship is a longer story we might want to hold on to for another time. 79 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,360 Okay. All right. You've piqued my curiosity. We're not going to let you get away with it. 80 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,920 I want to come back. We'll come back to it for sure. For sure. So Libby is our worship 81 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,680 director here at Trinity. So yeah, we'll have to hear that story. Now what about you, David? 82 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:50,400 Yeah, I started, I joined a school marching band actually. No way. I played the trombone. 83 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Was that a high school? Yes, it is. And it's all the way back in Malaysia. Okay. And yeah, 84 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:02,120 that's where I learned the ABCs of music. I moved on to playing the bass because I knew 85 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:11,200 the ABCs of music. But then eventually I got involved in playing in church. But it wasn't 86 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,920 until maybe five years after that, that I learned how to play the guitar. Right. Okay. 87 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,560 But I had the foundations there and that was a good place to start. Yeah. Cool. So you 88 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,320 got involved in worship music through your church in, was it in Malaysia? Yes. Nice. 89 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:34,720 Yeah. Awesome. What about you, Stephanie? I started playing piano. So I play piano as 90 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:41,040 part of the worship team. But I started lessons when I was seven and I did the sort of royal 91 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:49,000 conservatory training all the way up to grade eight. And then I stopped playing or stopped 92 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,440 attending lessons rather when I was in grade eight and then sort of lost interest, fell 93 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,200 off a little bit and then came back to it and did grade nine on my own. So I've been 94 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:06,320 playing piano for a really long time and I love it. During my high school years, I also 95 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,840 played the flute, the clarinet and the steel drums as part of a steel drum band. That's 96 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:18,360 awesome. So a lot of skills. So we could always bring in some steel drums. Yeah, I heard that 97 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,400 there was a steel drum band at one point before. I think you're right. Yeah. I think there 98 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,280 was. I've seen footage. Yeah. It was good too. That would be really cool. All right. 99 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Well it's no pressure. No pressure. That's right. You already do a lot so we won't put 100 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,320 you in anything else right now. But if we had to think about your favorite style of 101 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,440 music. So we know that you're part of our worship team and you're all really great at 102 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,880 that. Do you have any favorite styles of music that you listen to or play outside of Trinity? 103 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:51,600 I like a lot of different styles of music. I am a recovering country singer. So there's 104 00:09:51,600 --> 00:10:00,600 that for sure. But I like pop and I like funk and I like jazz and I like everything. You 105 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:06,440 like music. I like classical. I like it all. Yeah. I enjoy it all. Does anyone else have 106 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:13,120 a favorite style? Well, growing up in the 90s, it was definitely alternative music, 107 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:19,440 alternative rock. But I grew to love jazz, grew to appreciate the conversations that 108 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:25,800 happen in jazz. And I like how bands when they come together and they're really tight, 109 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:32,040 they know what each and everyone is doing. It's just a sight to behold. Yeah. I love 110 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:37,600 that you said conversations. As someone who's not musical, that just sounds so intriguing. 111 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:45,960 Yeah. I also have quite an eclectic style, but right now I'll just say I'm really into 112 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:55,480 60s soul music. So yeah, some Smokey Robinson and Aretha. Nice. Got that playlist on loop. 113 00:10:55,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Good stuff. Yeah. All right. So last quick question before we get into the meat of our 114 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,800 conversation. If you could play another instrument that you don't already play and you could 115 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:14,120 just magically play one, which one would you choose? Maybe why? Piano. Definitely piano. 116 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:21,600 Like to really, really play piano would be amazing. Just because it sort of stands alone, 117 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,940 you know, like, I mean, acoustic guitar does sort of too, but not the same way piano is 118 00:11:25,940 --> 00:11:34,000 just this magical thing. And, you know, it can, it really elevates a song and, and really 119 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,040 helps you come up with melodies too. I mean, as a writer, it's just bigger, you know, I 120 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:45,640 just love, I love the piano. Nice. Yeah, me too. And I didn't know we have the same interests, 121 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,360 right? So that's kind of cool. But yeah, I would love to learn how to play the piano. 122 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:57,280 So I've been tinkering a bit, but with no professional training, I still can pull something 123 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:07,160 up and I use the key signature changes just to play everything on C. And interestingly 124 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:14,600 enough, I, I would love to learn to play the guitar. Oh, yeah, I know. We should probably 125 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:20,080 hang out. Maybe it's like grass is always greener on the other side. And give each other 126 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:27,040 lessons. That's great. Well, you all are, all are part of our worship team here. And 127 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:32,120 worshipping God and music in general has deep biblical roots. I was really interested to 128 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:38,240 find out that the very first mention of instruments in the Bible is actually way back in Genesis, 129 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Genesis four. And the first mention of a worship song is in Exodus and that's Moses. Moses 130 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,960 has a worship song. And why do you think, and maybe I'm going to direct this to you, 131 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Libby, as our director, that worshipping God through music is so significant? 132 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:02,680 Well, I mean, for me, and I think it's the same for a lot of people. Music accesses a 133 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:10,960 part of us that, that we can't readily access any other way. Music takes us to a place. 134 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,880 When we worship, we're fixing our eyes on Jesus and music really helps us to do that. 135 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:24,480 It helps us to focus outside of ourselves. That's, yeah, that's not a hugely theological 136 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,880 answer, but that's, David had mentioned something. We were talking about this last week and David 137 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,680 had some really good thoughts. So I just want to pass it over to David on that one. That's 138 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,880 good too. Yeah. In my journey kind of, you know, growing 139 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:40,480 up, one of the things that I encountered was a very wise person. He's a friend of mine 140 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:47,720 and his dad mentioned this to me, right? He said, in every single people group represented 141 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:55,560 on earth, right? Every living thing even produces sound, whether it's using their hands or using 142 00:13:55,560 --> 00:14:03,120 a tool or using an instrument or even your own voice boxes, right? To worship something, 143 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:11,120 to attribute to something, right? So, you know, it's either rubbing against something, 144 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,880 hitting something. And I was watching a video about didgeridoo, right? And I wanted to give 145 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,440 that answer didgeridoo, but I don't think I'll ever... It doesn't, yeah. But it's really 146 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,880 cool the fact that every single people or human being or living thing creates sound 147 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:32,440 to worship something. So that's something that really drove me to dive deeper into accessing 148 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:38,280 music and using it as a form of worship unto God, right? So, yeah. 149 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,920 So, yeah. Yeah. Well, those are really good answers. And 150 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,720 one thing that I want to mention, Libby, is that when I sit in a service and I'm there, 151 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,560 I notice that the music seems to not just be chosen at random, but I feel... 152 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Thank you for that, Elizabeth. I do notice that. And I can tell that there's 153 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,080 this intention that goes into selecting the music. And I'm wondering that maybe you can 154 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,640 just give us some insight into how music or a worship director at a church, yourself particularly, 155 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:13,160 goes about selecting the songs that we use collectively as a church on a given Sunday. 156 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:19,720 Well, it begins with sort of giving some thought to what it is we're talking about, whatever 157 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:27,480 the sermon series is on and what the focus is there. And we're hoping to lead people. 158 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,540 So then from there, then I will take some time in prayer and look at the scripture passage 159 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:40,680 that we're going to have for that Sunday and just wait. I listen to a lot of worship music 160 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:46,240 and whatnot. So I have a sort of library of lyric floating around in my head. And so the 161 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,800 Holy Spirit often just will give me a line that corresponds when I'm listening and then 162 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:58,880 I'll be like, oh, right, that song. And so there's that sort of aspect of it, the trying 163 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:04,840 to make the connections, right? Because we do walk out of church with songs in our head, 164 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:12,840 right? And if the song can carry the message with it, it's great for learning as well. 165 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,440 And then there's all the other extra stuff of keys and how do we want it to flow in the 166 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,560 service. And if this song is important and what song could flow out of that nicely and 167 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,840 where all the sort of musical side of picking the songs and that sort of thing as well. 168 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:32,560 But yeah, most importantly, it's about creating that sacred space and trying to keep us fixed 169 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,640 on what we're learning about that day, right? 170 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,840 And I'm just going to throw out this other question is that a service that we had a few 171 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:44,320 weeks ago during our offertory, I believe, you had actually decided, I think while you 172 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:50,000 were up on the stage to have everyone sit and reflect quietly while you sang. And it 173 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,860 seemed like that was almost a decision you made maybe in the moment or maybe just not 174 00:16:53,860 --> 00:16:58,920 too long before. And was that sort of like the Holy Spirit just telling you that or is 175 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,920 that something? 176 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:05,760 Well, fly by the seat of your parents worship leaders are not going to enjoy this answer. 177 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:15,240 But no, actually, I did prepare to do that. I knew in my heart that as soon as I read 178 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,200 the scripture passage, that was the first thing. So before I even knew what we're doing 179 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,740 for opening worship or anything, that song was definitely happening because I knew that 180 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:30,000 Rob was going to be talking about care, right? That was the sermon where he was talking about 181 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:37,400 a woman, here's your son, and this is your mother. 182 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,480 And I knew because I know we have a relationship, right? And I know Rob and we talked about 183 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:48,640 these things. And so it really helped to inform me on that. And I've known that specific song 184 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,520 for a really long time, By Our Love by Kristi Knuckles. And it's a really good opportunity 185 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,000 for us to remember what we're called to. And I just thought, this is a good, there's room 186 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,560 for this and we're going to do it. It was a bit of a risk sometimes with people, but 187 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,560 that's a beauty, that one. 188 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:11,920 It was. It was. I just love how you use the worship in so many different ways to really 189 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,420 allow people to enter into those types of prayers. So that was great. 190 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:19,940 Now it's you guys, it's the three of you are part of the worship team, but I don't know 191 00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:24,680 the number offhand, but certainly there are many more who play several different instruments. 192 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,480 There's other vocalists, other people who lead sometimes. What is the best part about 193 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,200 being part of a team like this? 194 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,160 Yeah, well, there's got to be something. It's got to be something okay about it. 195 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:42,880 I think it's the fact that all of us can focus on one thing that we can do together, right? 196 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,000 And there's this thing about the click. So just to share a bit more technicality, right? 197 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,600 When we hear a click, it goes, and there's a tempo, there's a timing, there's a rhythm 198 00:18:52,600 --> 00:19:00,720 to it. And it's all of us, not just aligning on the playing and the timing of things and 199 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,680 the cues of where to go to, but we're all also in step spiritually, right? And we're 200 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,240 playing together, we're not just offering our lives as living sacrifice unto God, right? 201 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Because that's our acceptable form of worship unto God, but it is also us coming together 202 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:20,240 physically and committing to something that is beyond us. I think worship or being on 203 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,460 a worship team is beyond us, right? We're just there to facilitate through creating 204 00:19:25,460 --> 00:19:32,440 an atmosphere, using music, right? To encourage everyone to participate in. As you mentioned 205 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:37,980 earlier, I wanted to butt in, but I'm not nice. But the fact is that we're allowing, 206 00:19:37,980 --> 00:19:43,520 we want people to participate in the worship, right? Which is through us all singing together. 207 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,160 And that is what happens on Sunday mornings. And we're all geared up towards doing that. 208 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:54,280 And if we play together and hit the right notes together, that's a plus, right? 209 00:19:54,280 --> 00:20:02,360 Yeah, totally. I was going to say something very similar to that. I think it's just together, 210 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:08,160 the music and the people. And so being part of this team, we rehearse on Thursday evenings 211 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:15,160 and it's great because we get that... We feel the music in us. We feel the Holy Spirit in 212 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:23,520 us and we're there just making really wonderful music. But then when we come here on Sundays, 213 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,080 I just love when I hear everyone else. You'll see it. We all have earbuds in, right? Because 214 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,480 we need that click and those cues. I'm learning so much right now. 215 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,560 But there are some times, and I don't know, maybe they'll catch it one of these days on 216 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:44,760 the live stream where I can hear the congregation over what I hear in my ears. And I'm playing 217 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:52,800 and I just smile. Every single time it just gets me just to hear it all come together. 218 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,720 We're worshiping together. 219 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:01,560 That is the best. And I guess what I would say also the best part of it is it's the we-ness 220 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,720 of it, right? The us. And I think that's what's so amazing on a Sunday morning when we get 221 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:14,920 together for worship and we have that together as a team ourselves. But it's different when 222 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:21,400 we're all in the space together, right? And there's something extra special about that, 223 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:29,560 right? And that's why God gathers us together like that. That we're all fixed on Him, right? 224 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:35,040 We've all come together to offer the worship that He deserves. And we look around the room 225 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:41,680 and everybody else agrees with us, right? We're all there for the same thing. 226 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,680 It's like the team expands. 227 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Yeah. And there's something absolutely beautiful about that. I totally see what God's doing 228 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,680 there. It's an amazing thing to all be together. 229 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:59,760 Yeah. I just wanted to add, right? As a team, I'm so encouraged by everyone and everything 230 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,160 that they go through on their daily lives. And when we come on Thursday, like, wow, how 231 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:09,640 was your week? We're all human too, right? We have horrible bosses right now. This is 232 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:19,960 going to be on YouTube. But it's the camaraderie and our coming together and sharing life together. 233 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,840 And that was one of the things that I felt deeply. And it's not just among us too, right? 234 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,080 But on Sunday, when someone comes up and say, hey, thank you for leading, thank you for 235 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:36,180 serving along. And that's something that just brings meaning to what we do, not just playing 236 00:22:36,180 --> 00:22:38,400 and performing, right? That's not what we're doing. 237 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,780 I think actually I asked Libby this a couple of weeks ago. I said, do you ever feel drained 238 00:22:42,780 --> 00:22:49,560 after a Sunday? And you mentioned, you said, as I pour out, I'm being filled up. 239 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,080 Yes. And I think that really sums up maybe what 240 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,560 you're saying here is that as you bless, you're blessed as well. And it's just, it's beautiful 241 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:02,440 to see that. I think that's true of every volunteer ministry 242 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:09,040 at Trinity, right? I mean, people who do welcome, you know, like, that's their, you know, they 243 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,520 have a very obvious gift in that area and they're sharing that and they're putting that 244 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,680 forward and they're giving it to God and it's a beautiful thing. And so in that work they're 245 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,960 doing, they're being blessed by it. I mean, I think that's probably true of all of us, 246 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,560 right? Yeah, that's true. 247 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,880 Okay. So we talked about some of the great things. Maybe I don't want to dwell on this, 248 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,360 but this is hard work as well. We know that you mentioned a couple of times that you come 249 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:37,520 in on a Thursday. What is one of the hardest things about being part of a worship team? 250 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,120 Maybe I should have led with this one first. I sound like a negative Nancy. 251 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,120 Living up to Libby's standards. Wow. 252 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:50,520 Okay. I'm just kidding. 253 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,560 I think it's 6.30 in the morning. Well, right? 254 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,680 That's the hardest part. I was expecting that answer to be honest. 255 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,960 For me it's 6.30 Sunday morning. That's the hardest part about it. Yeah. Just the getting 256 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,400 up super early to make sure everything is set and ready for everybody to come in. But 257 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,640 yeah. Yeah. So there's some prep that goes on this 258 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,240 Sunday morning beforehand. But really in the whole big picture of things, 259 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,240 what's that? That's nothing. It's a drop in the bucket. 260 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:23,920 And I'm really lucky. I've heard stories from other worship directors and stuff. I mean, 261 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,520 I just want to say I'm super, super blessed with the team that I have. And I love each 262 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,580 and every one of them dearly. And I couldn't do any of what we're doing here without every 263 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:39,800 single one of them. And yeah. So I'm just super grateful. Yeah. 264 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,120 Yeah. Well, I mean, it shows what a great team it 265 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:47,540 is when we see it on a Sunday morning. And before we wrap up guys, I have not forgotten 266 00:24:47,540 --> 00:24:50,320 that you have a story to share with us, Libby. Oh dear. 267 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:55,100 I'm also wondering if there's anything else that anyone wants to share about the importance 268 00:24:55,100 --> 00:25:00,880 of worship music or just why we think it's important specifically here at Trinity. I'm 269 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,840 just wondering if you have any extra thoughts before we wrap up here. So remember Libby, 270 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,120 you're going to tell us how you got into worship music because we did hear that recovering 271 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:13,440 country singer story. You're not wearing a cowboy hat right now. So something changed. 272 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Something happened. Yeah. But do you guys have anything else you think? 273 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:24,640 I think it's not just worship music, right? So music is music. Music's just a medium of 274 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,040 how we express ourselves. There's so many ways to worship, right? Worship if you're 275 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,920 living, worship if you're time, worship if your conversations, like we have it over coffee 276 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:41,960 hour. Right now, right? We're having it, right? And worship in our lifestyle, right? So in 277 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:49,620 a context of being together on a Sunday morning or even online, you know, when you sing along, 278 00:25:49,620 --> 00:25:56,160 worship along, that's what unifies us, right? But you know, the fact that worship is a lifestyle, 279 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,560 it's every single decision that you make in again, as an offering unto God. You know, 280 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:08,280 I think that's the context of worship that I've learned, grown to appreciate and grown 281 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:13,880 to be impacted upon, right? One of the things you mentioned earlier, what's difficult, frankly, 282 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,880 sometimes it's singing the songs because we have challenges ourselves, right? You know, 283 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,080 like we sing, I all to Jesus, I surrender. Are we really surrendering everything? And 284 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,000 we're in front singing it, but we reflect first and foremost, right? Are we in a state? 285 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,400 And if we're not, you know, God's gracious, right? But we're here to encourage everyone, 286 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,360 right? To come alongside, you know, you're struggling, I'm struggling. It's okay. We're 287 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,520 just here to worship God because he's much bigger than all of these items and all of 288 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:48,520 these things. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I just want to say one of the reasons that almost 289 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,840 10 years ago now that I decided, you know, this is the church I want to come to, many, 290 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:01,280 many reasons, you know, the people and the ministry is all really great, but it was my 291 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:08,440 first time coming to church and hearing this style of worship. I hadn't, you know, been 292 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:14,320 going to church for a long time. I was at the very beginning of, you know, curiosity 293 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:22,120 about having relationship with God without having that myself until that time. And, you 294 00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:27,920 know, it speaks a little bit to what we talked about earlier. It touches you in a different 295 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:35,040 way. When I heard the music that very first day, it just broke me right open in a way 296 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,880 that I had never felt before. And I think that that was my first maybe encounter with 297 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:46,040 the Holy Spirit, maybe my whole life, you know, that comfort and the beauty that I had 298 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:52,640 just felt from hearing the music, reading on the screen, the words that came with it. 299 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:58,480 One of the reasons that I decided I should come back and keep on with it. And so I just 300 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,120 think it's interesting, you know, we never know where people are when they come to church 301 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:11,640 and maybe music, maybe the ministries, whatever small thing that we do here, it could impact 302 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,160 someone in a very big way. And I think that's really special. 303 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,360 It is. That's well said. And thanks for sharing. 304 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:22,040 See, I get these guys, aren't I lucky? 305 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,160 Yes, you are. And they're lucky too. 306 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,800 Okay, so the story. We're just going to get down to it. Okay, so I grew up in a musical 307 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:38,240 family and I started playing the violin when I was three. And then I got away from that 308 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:48,000 for a while. And then picked it up again at like 18. Got a gig and a tribute show and 309 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:55,440 hopped in a van and went out on the road where I met Scott. Okay, that's my husband. He's 310 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:03,560 the man with the giant beard in the back. And so we got together, we've been together 311 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:12,880 ever since. But then, you know, I got to know his mom and we started talking, we go for 312 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,000 walks and she brought up the Holy Spirit. And I'd kind of dwindled a little. I was raised 313 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,920 Catholic but I kind of, you know, put it on the shelf for a while. 314 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:30,040 While you're in the van. Yeah, while we were in the van, as was convenient. 315 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:37,200 But she sort of rekindled that for me, which was really rekindled my spark and I really 316 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:43,000 appreciate that. Love you, mom. And so I started, you know, looking for a place for us to go 317 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,440 to church and so we got back into church. But I always did kind of want to keep music 318 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:57,200 and church separate because I had a problem like with the idea that I would mix them. 319 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:03,160 Because worship at church is a very real, true raw thing. It's not a performance. And 320 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:09,480 I had all my training in performance, right? And so I was asked and asked and asked to 321 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,040 be a part of the team and I just said, no, Scott served on the team. And I was like, 322 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:19,560 I just can't, I can't do it. And then finally we had this wonderful worship leader, Melissa, 323 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,840 who was like a magnifying glass for the Holy Spirit. And so I caved and I said yes to her. 324 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,720 And so I just, but I didn't sing. I just was playing acoustic guitar and eventually some 325 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,480 harmonies and that sort of thing. And then she left. So that was that and I was done. 326 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,920 And then I got talked back into, almost talked back into coming and helping the next person 327 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:45,000 who was doing it. But I just was uncomfortable and I thought, I can't. And one day at home 328 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:53,620 church our group was trying to encourage me to become one of the leaders for the worship 329 00:30:53,620 --> 00:31:00,120 team and stuff. And they'd done that a lot. And so that Sunday I got upset and I smacked 330 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:06,240 my hand on my table and I'll never forget this day because God left. And I said, listen, 331 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,640 that's never going to happen. Like never. So just drop it. And I get what you're doing 332 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,840 and that's cute, but I'm not doing it. So just forget it. I think it was six weeks later, 333 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:24,940 I was leading the worship team. Yeah. Never say never. No, I, I'll never forget. I was 334 00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:29,400 driving in my car listening and Charles Stanley came on, which was again, not something that 335 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,400 was normative for me at that time. Right. And I said, you, you know, you've got gifts 336 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,560 to offer, but, and you just keep telling God, cause you think you're humble, that you're 337 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,720 not ready yet. Or you think that, you know, maybe you just don't have what it takes and 338 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,840 you think you're being humble, but you're being disobedient. And then my phone rang 339 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,120 and it was our pastor asking me if I would take over the worship team. And I just said, 340 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:58,560 you know what? Yes. Get me some books. I don't know why I'm saying yes, but get me some books. 341 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,920 And so he did. And his name was Phil and he was a wonderful pastor and he helped me grow 342 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:11,160 into a worship leader. Wow. That's a really nice story. Under duress. God wants what he 343 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:17,320 wants and he gets it. And he doesn't give up. What a lovely testimony actually to share 344 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,320 with us and with Trinity about how you came to be where you're at. And I have to say, 345 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,880 we really do appreciate all of the work that all of you give to the church and all of the 346 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:33,960 time and the sharing of your talents. And you've also raised up several new worship members of the 347 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,600 team, right? So we've seen many new people come and join your team as well. So not only are you 348 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,800 leading, but you're facilitating that raising up of new leaders as well. So I just want to say a 349 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,600 big thank you. We all do enjoy the music. I'm pretty sure I'm speaking for most of you who are 350 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:54,040 watching. If you would like to watch more of their worship songs or worship along with them, 351 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,840 and we do have a great playlist on our YouTube channel. So make sure that you check that out 352 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:24,600 as well. And I just, again, like to say thank you. Thank you for having us. Thanks so much.