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Hello, everybody. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. How's it going? This is good.

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This is a great morning. I'm really glad to have Alex and Christine and Pradeep with me

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today. This is Trinity's media team joining us today for Trinity Talks. And we're going

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to be talking about media in ministry. Say that three times fast. So you're not wanting

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to try. OK. No, this is going to be really exciting. So how are you guys doing on this

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Family Day weekend? Wonderful. Great. All right. I know that even when we're here on a Sunday,

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it breaks up our Family Day weekend. Do you guys have any plans for these three days?

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I have some cousins in Uxbridge, so a bit of a drive from where I'm at now, but go hang

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out with some family there. Nice. Yeah, relax. Family on Family Day. Relax. Hang out with

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family. Yeah. So say my wife is not here. She's traveling. So I'm here with my kids

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and with some of my cousins. We may get together tomorrow. Nice. So family on Family Day. Actually,

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I've got a bowling party planned with my parents and my kids too. Yeah, we're going to go do

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that tomorrow. It's kind of our Family Day tradition. Well, I'm happy you're here with

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me today because we are going to be talking all about the importance really of media in

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ministry. And some people who may be watching or listening are really familiar with media

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and understand and know all about it. But there's probably a lot of people too who don't

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know as much about media and maybe even just the importance of the camera work and the

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sound and everything that goes into the media here at Trinity and even the why behind it.

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So I'm hoping we can really dive into that today. Now, media has evolved here at Trinity

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too. I mean, for my time, I've seen a big change in the way we reach and communicate

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through our videos and through our socials. And I know that it's still ever evolving.

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So Alex, first of all, you're our media director here. So you know what's going on. Can you

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let us know what is media ministry at Trinity? I think, I don't know, the best way to describe

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it right now, I think, is like bringing our ministry here at Trinity outside of the four

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walls, I think. And media just really allows us to get past the restraints of a building

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and share that around the world. We have people all over that have been tuning in for a bit

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and we hope to get more. And yeah, a lot about accessibility too. Some people, if they're

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not around, miss out on the area, if they can't get out, and just reaching a younger

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audience, that's online as well.

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So so much actually, there's a lot in there. So you come in on a Sunday morning, Alex,

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and you arrive about an hour or two before church starts. So what does a Sunday morning

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look like for you? And I'm asking this question because you're here on a Sunday morning. We

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often see Libby, we see Rob, we see a lot of our volunteers, but you're kind of hidden

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away in our media booth. And a lot of people probably don't see you and see the behind

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the scenes. We're going to talk to some of our volunteers as well about that. But what

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does it look like for you? Because you're busy. There's a lot going on.

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I think, I don't know, a lot of it, I mean, in media in general, a lot of it is problem

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solving for the most part. And that's the one constant is that there's something that's

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going to happen that you got to fix. So putting out fires is a lot of it. So ideally, you

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don't notice things. I'm not going to point out. But if you're a keen eyed listener and

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watcher here, there's a mistake that happened earlier in the service. Can you find it? Oh,

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all right. You're tuning in bright and early. But yeah, so I come in, I got to make sure

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all like the studio here is all set up, got to put mics in, make sure the cables are good,

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set up cameras. Lots of cameras get set up in the sanctuary, cables, all that whole thing.

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Then we got to make sure and test it and actually make sure it's actually going. Sometimes it's

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been had in the past where, you know, cables left unplugged and then you try to go that

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shot and it's not there. So trying out those preparing for the service is like really important

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that aspect. And then also kind of talking to the volunteers, making sure everybody knows

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what they're doing. If we need to change some things up, like today, we have two camera

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operators. Usually we have three. So it's kind of like shuffling around who goes where

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and it's kind of like managing that from the back. And then, yeah, that's a lot during

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the service, though. I'm up switching usually. So right now we have someone else that's doing

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the switching. This is a interesting coordinating that had to get done here to make this happen.

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I'm glad I could be here on the other side of the camera today. So we need someone else

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there. So shout out to Jamie. Yeah. Yeah. So it's great to have people that are being

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trained and we have another switcher in our midst over here. And yeah, so a lot of that's

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during the service, a lot of switching, making sure everything you see online, all those

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cameras have to be switched, overseeing the audio, everything has to be working well for

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that. Well, it's well done. And I just want to say that recent survey I sent out to a

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lot of our online viewers, I got some feedback from a lot of people. And one thing that was

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sort of consistent from a lot of people was that they really feel immersed in the Sunday

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morning experience because of the camera work. And all three of you have done camera work.

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And I think that's really important. And so thank you for that. But what I'm wondering

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is led you to this role here at Trinity. See, it's interesting actually, because like this

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role didn't really exist not that long ago. So pretty much COVID got a lot of churches

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online. And so I was already in the sphere, I was finishing up my school. I was doing

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some part time editing for a church downtown. And then when Rob came to this church, he

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knew me from there and pulled me in, started doing some stuff there. And then the role

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of like media director at a church is now a thing. And then so I was brought on full

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time. So I just enjoy being able to use a variety of my skills in this in this work

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environment where like it's not just video, not just photo, but it's graphic design and

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audio and and just having that opportunity to have a real purpose to it. A lot of times

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with with video, like I've done lots of freelance video stuff. It's great. I love covering events

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and like weddings and stuff. But it's nice to have like a big purpose and have a lot

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of people benefit from this. I don't know. It feels it feels good to be in that position.

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That's great. That's great. Now, Christine, you, unlike Alex, you're not here employed.

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You come in as a volunteer on Sunday mornings. You're one of our more recent volunteers to

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the media team. So what brought you into wanting to help out on a Sunday morning in this way?

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So I joined in the fall of twenty twenty three. So I've been here about half a year on the

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team and the church was looking to expand to two services. So they were looking for

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additional volunteers and we did that expansion in November. So it's just growing with the

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ministry of the church and it's wonderful to be here. Yeah. We're glad to have you on

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the team. You do a great job. And Pradeep yourself, you've been on the team for a little

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bit longer than six months, I believe. Yeah, I've been here since the beginning. I think

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I like I'm sent out for volunteers. Yeah, I signed up. All right. Actually, Alex and

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I were talking about that just a few minutes before the show started and we were trying

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to remember when the beginning was. When do you know a couple of years ago? At least two

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years. Yeah. Twenty twenty three. Yeah. All right. So a few years ago. And what led you

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to want to come and help out in this ministry on a Sunday morning? One is to serve God.

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Another thing is to I think it gave me it gives me an opportunity to get myself more

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involved with the church, the church activities. Otherwise, you just come in, listen to the

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sermon and go home and have a cup of coffee. But this is you're more involved with the

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church. Yeah. So it gets to, you know, allows you to grow. So what I'm hearing is through

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connecting other people to Trinity, you're finding connection as well. Yes, definitely.

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All right. So I actually wanted to talk a little bit about some biblical foundational

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reasons for the importance of media ministry as well. And when I was going through some

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some scripture quotes, I found a few that stood out to me that I thought really spoke

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to the need and the importance of media and communication in general in this way. So I'm

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just going to go through a few different biblical quotes. I mean, we can talk together about

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unpacking how media applies to those actual scriptures. So the first one I have is from

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Romans and it's Romans 10, 24 to 25. And Paul writes, And let us consider how to stir up

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one another to love and do good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit

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of some, but encouraging one another and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

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So I hear the word stir up. So in what way does media help us as biblically instructed

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to continue to meet together and spur one another on in love? I think I don't know.

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One of the things that came to mind with that kind of like stirring up is that a lot of

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our time now, especially younger generations do, but everybody's time now is spent online.

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And so we're constantly engaging with the content and whatnot. And so if we need to

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have that sort of place in there, we're kind of stir up the conversation and we provide

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the message to the people as a part of their routine online. So we need to be there to

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just give that input and just share the message that way.

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Yeah. So, so many people, including myself, we leave this place after Sunday and we're

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so encouraged and so rejuvenated. And we just want to spread that to as many people who

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will hear it. And those who can't be here today or any other Sunday, they want to see

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what they missed and hear the specific biblical teaching that we can use in our daily life.

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So many people are looking for peace and joy. And if you are here listening online or coming

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in person, you can get that. And that's just so exciting.

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It is. It really is. One thing I'm not sure you know, we do have a podcast, so this is

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taken and put on audio into the podcast. And we have listeners across the world who download

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our podcast. I love that's one thing I love is looking at where this word is spreading.

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So we've got countries in Europe and Asia and Africa that have all downloaded our content,

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which is great. Absolutely.

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For me, you know, like, right, every week we have a small group, you get together and

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discuss the sermon sometimes, you know, like when you're when you missed a service or,

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you know, probably you didn't catch it, you can always go back and go through that. And

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also, we when we discuss the topic, the sermon and the previous service, it can sometimes,

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you know, it helps us to go back and check and reflect on it.

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So yeah, that's a really good point. We do. Like you said, we keep all of our live streams

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up online. We also just have the sermon itself on YouTube. So if that is something you want

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to go back and listen to again, it's there's that's actually quite easy to do that through

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YouTube now. So I've done it before myself. Likewise.

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And we're almost at a thousand subscribers. So if you're out there, you should hit the

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subscribe button. I've always wanted to say that. Smash that subscribe. My kids say. So

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another scriptural passage is at the end of the gospel. Let's go with Matthew. We have

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to find the Great Commission and Jesus commands his disciples to go out and make disciples

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of all men. And how in media are we living out that Great Commission? I mean, that's

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a that feels kind of weighty when we say that. But how can our media here at Trinity really

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help Trinity to live out that Great Commission? I mean, I think because we have access to

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the resources that allow us to do this, like we're obligated to bring that message online

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as well. And like it's such a big role now to where even if you're church shopping, you're

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going around, a lot of people will check online. So having that access where it's easier to

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find a place that resonates with you is kind of important. You want to be able to feel

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welcomed. And that's one of the first things I felt when I came here. I felt like super

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welcomed by everybody. And I think whatever makes it easier to find a community that you

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resonate with is really important.

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Yeah. Again, this place just brings me so much joy. And sometimes I'm talking to a friend

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or a relative and they're going through something and I have something in my back pocket, which

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is the sermon. And I can forward it to them and say, listen to this. You need this. This

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will help you. So. So it's a tool beyond a Sunday morning.

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And it's, you know, though, even though I don't directly, I'm not communicating, but

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I'm kind of facilitating it. Right. So that kind of, it becomes part of, makes me part

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of that process.

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Absolutely. And it really is true, which leads me to my last scriptural point here is in

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first Corinthians 27, Paul explains that we are all the body of Christ. So everyone has

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a role to play in the greater church and in the greater body of Christ. So like you said,

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you may not be on the screen delivering the message, but you have a role to play in how

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that message is delivered.

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Yes, indeed.

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Yeah. So how do you see yourselves fitting into that larger body through media ministry?

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Consider your gifts. I think this is a time to, well, one thing, Christine, I know you

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mentioned that you work in art.

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I do.

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Right. So you don't work necessarily in media, but you have an artistic eye.

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I love taking that perfect picture. And if we're just outside of the church, if we're

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doing something as a family or friends, I'm always a little bit, I was taking pictures

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in there, just like send it to me.

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So you have that, you have that special gift is getting a good, good shot.

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And very quick learner, might I say, and you're to try so many roles. It's actually amazing

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to have such great volunteers.

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Yeah. It's fun to learn what I don't know. Absolutely. And Alex is a great teacher.

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Not everybody has that too. A lot of people can be scared away. So if you ever feel like

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I can do this thing, it's, I don't know, I feel like it's, it's fulfilling to be able

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to use those gifts, knowing that you're in a position that's kind of special and not

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everybody has those. So it's, it's nice to, to be able to use those for.

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What do you think you bring to this pretty? I don't know. I know commitment is one because

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to have a volunteer at a church is, you know, committed to one ministry for this long is

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a beautiful gift in itself.

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Like I said, you know, it gives me, I don't know, I think it gives me a push to be come

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to this church, you know, like be involved. And it can, it's like Alex, it is fulfilling,

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you know? Yeah. Yeah.

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It's well needed. I'm glad. I always count on Pradeep to come in whenever we need. So,

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yeah.

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And so, and Alex for yourself, so how, how do your passions and your expertise even contribute

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to this ministry here?

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I mean, I just feel like the talents are kind of well used in this environment, I think,

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right? Like for the time that I'm going to be here, it's really great to have that opportunity.

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There's so many different roles here that need tending to, and it's, I like being in

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that position where I can learn myself, but also offer up that final product and, or we've

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been talking about too, just like, yeah, what's online, being a part of that process, it's,

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I don't know, I enjoy that. So, yeah.

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Nice. Nice. And I think we'd be amiss, guys. We are talking about media, media and ministry,

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but media extends beyond the church, guys, right? So I just need to ask you a question

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about your, some of your favorite pieces of media that you have had throughout the year.

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They didn't know I was going to ask this question, but I'm going to, I just think it may be fun

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for the audience to learn a little bit about you and some of your favorites when I'm going

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to ask them. So in terms of movies, do you guys have a favorite movie that you, well,

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let's, you watch? Which one do you go back to time? They're thinking about it. I'll tell

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you mine's Titanic. Titanic. I can't get enough.

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The movie changes like all the time. I think like, like I hadn't watched for whatever reason.

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I hadn't watched Narnia in forever. And then the other day I was like, oh, I could just

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watch Narnia. And I was like, wow, I totally forgot that I actually love these movies.

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So yeah, but it definitely changes based on what I'm just like basically binging at that

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point. Right. Okay.

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For me, yeah, like, like I said, you know, it, it kind of changes depending on the mood,

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depending on the circumstance. But one thing that is kind of being constant is like the

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Christmas movies, you know, like Home Alone. That's a good laugh to watch with a family.

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It's a good laugh. It's true. What about you, Christine? I see you deep in thought.

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Yeah. Cause I can't remember the name of the movie that I just watched. It's not one that

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I watched over and over again, but my husband told me you would really like this and you,

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you should watch it. And it was a movie about a football player who, do you know it?

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I forget the name, but I'm sure I've seen it. I'm sensing some telepathy here because

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there are several football player movies out there. So yeah, he's one who just had life

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struggles and the blind side. No, no, no. It's not the blind side. No. Oh, that's when

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you were thinking about anyways. Oh, all right. Well, we'll come up with it and we're going

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to post it on our, on our, on our feed underneath the YouTube. So we'll come up with it once

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Christine comes up with it. I definitely watch more TV shows. All right. So what's your favorite

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TV show guys? For me, it would have to be Breaking Bad. The whole thing was just so

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well done. It's incredible. The detail there, like every aspect of that show was just so

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well thought out storylines. Insane. I might actually agree with you. That's probably one

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of my all time favorites. And did you ever do the, uh, Better Call Saul? Yeah. Watch

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Better Call Saul, El Camino. Get it all done. They're all great. Yeah. Definitely a binge

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worthy show for sure. Dangerously binge worthy. Well done. Yeah, it's good. Do you guys have

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any favorites? TV shows? I don't watch that many TV shows. I watch more of the YouTube

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videos, things like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like I like to watch comedy. So, but I'm from

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like old school. I don't know about a show called According to Jim. I don't know that

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one. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll put a link to According to Jim on the bottom of

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the speed as well. Well, I just wanted to say thank you to all three of you for joining

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me and actually coming in front of the camera instead of being behind the camera. I hope

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to actually have you in front of the camera again sometime because it's been a pleasure.

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It's wild to be actually in the studio right now after all the setup it's taken to get

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here. It's, it's been a long road, but here we are. And it's, it's, uh, I know it's just

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the beginning of something even bigger and better. Yeah. So thank you to everyone who

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watched and who hopefully learned a little bit more about the media ministry here at

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