1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 It's a fried rice Christmas, ho ho ho 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 Ho ho ho 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:22,000 What's this? What's this? It's Andy in the Air. What's this? It's fried rice everywhere. What's this? 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,000 It's Brennan and Mike and it's 8 crazy nights of Christmas. Oh my, what's this? 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Why this is the nightmare before Christmas Andy. Yes it is and welcome everybody. Ho ho ho 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 It's another 8 crazy nights of 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Christmas with Fried Rice podcast. I'm your host, Kidnap Andy Claus 8 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 And with me as always it's Brennan 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Oh shit I can't remember another song from this movie. I just watched 10 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Brennan, oh, this is Brennan Shipley, this is Brennan Shipley, Brennan Shipley, Brennan Shipley, Brennan Shipley, Brennan Shipley 11 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Up to Boston. Hello everybody 12 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:17,000 We have Michael Oogie Boogie. No, Pumpkin King. Oh, the pumpkin king, Larson 13 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Everybody. I'll give you that one and welcome to, yeah this is another 8 or 9 or 10 crazy nights 14 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 I was about to say how many nights of these, how many of these Christmas ones have we done so far? 15 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:37,000 Yeah, quite a bit, quite a bit. I'm looking currently at our schedule for December and there's at least 20 things highlighted 16 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 So, you know our 8 crazy nights of Christmas 17 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Yeah, so welcome. We are reviewing of course The Nightmare Before Christmas 18 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:54,000 You can look up the IMDB if you want to see who it's directed by and all that shit. We don't care, we're just going to talk about the movie 19 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Oh, I did think it was kind of interesting. I always thought it was directed by Tim Burton 20 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,000 It's not a Tim Burton. It's produced. I said that to Mike the other day because he's like, oh and I like Tim Burton 21 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,000 I was like, yeah, but he only produces it. I know. He doesn't direct it 22 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,000 I was reading the facts on that and I'm like, that's fucking crazy 23 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Like, you know, they have this argument, him and the director, like they have this kind of like whose project was it? 24 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:20,000 You know, when Tim Burton was only there like four or five times in the three years that it took him to make this 25 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,000 He was busy making something else at the time 26 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 And Tim Burton has the argument with this guy? 27 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Kind of, like they have, not like an argument but like 28 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Or people making the argument 29 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,000 People make the argument 30 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 It's not Tim Burton saying it's my movie 31 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Like Tim Burton's like, yeah, he gives Tim Burton the credit for creating the characters 32 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 At least, you know, the main characters writing the poem that inspired it 33 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 The original drawings and things like that 34 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,000 But they were the ones that like worked so hard on it for three years 35 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 That's cool. When I went to, so it's interesting you say that 36 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Because I went to the, so the LACMA, the LA County Museum of Arts 37 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Which is next to the Brea Tar Pit 38 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 So if you're ever in LA, that's a good double combo 39 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 You get to see the famous Brea Tar Pits 40 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Which are really cool to look at because they're actual tar pits, right? 41 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 And then you go to LACMA and the one I went to had a Tim Burton exhibit 42 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 And you got to see the Batman costume 43 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,000 You got to see Jack Skellington little heads 44 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Like the actual ones they used for the production inside a glass case 45 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,000 But there was like 20 of them with all the different expressions like him talking and shit 46 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Which is really cool 47 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 You got to, and then when you went into like 48 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 You got to see the inspiration for Nightmare Before Christmas 49 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:39,000 And then there's a weird, because they did a really big exhibit for him 50 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 You go into a room and it was like all the childhood Tim Burton stuff 51 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 And he made some like crazy fucking drawings 52 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 So if you're a parent out there 53 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 And you've got a kid just making silly monster drawings or whatever 54 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 You could have the next Tim Burton on your hands, you never know 55 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:00,000 So Mike, this is your first time watching the Nightmare Before Christmas ever 56 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 First time 57 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Did you think, like everyone thinks that the claymation is just absolutely next level, top tier? 58 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Well, I did when I first saw it and then I realized this is not claymation 59 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,000 It's stop motion, it's puppets 60 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Yeah 61 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 Well, okay, when I, yeah, sorry 62 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 When I say claymation, that's always been, you're right 63 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 It's like calling a tissue, a piece of tissue paper a Kleenex 64 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,000 It's a brand 65 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 I know that claymation is its own thing 66 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:36,000 It's clay that you're moving, that you're using stop motion photography as a way to make it 67 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000 So in my mind, every time I think of anything that's produced with stop motion 68 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 That requires puppets or clay or whatever 69 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Because there absolutely was clay in this 70 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 They used clay to make the faces, some of it, right? 71 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 They had to have used some modeling clay to make some stuff, whatever 72 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 But then also all the little shit that they made, I'm sure is practical 73 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Like little glass vials for the scientist guy and all that stuff 74 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:06,000 So in my mind, when I say claymation, I only mean it as a catch-all for stop motion, stop motion movies 75 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,000 Which again, isn't correct, and I know that 76 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,000 So if I were to reach 77 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 I was expecting claymation when I started watching it 78 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,000 I was like, well, I remembered, I mean, I'd seen, like I said, scenes from it before and stuff 79 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 But never really thought about it 80 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,000 But then when I started watching it, I was like, these don't look like clay 81 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 How are they doing this in clay? 82 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Because you had told me claymation before 83 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,000 And I was like, these don't appear to be clay 84 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 So then I had to do a deep dive and I went and watched like a making of 85 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 There's a making of on YouTube that's incredible 86 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 That shows how they did it and the removable heads and all the stuff that they did on these puppets 87 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 And there's actually a picture of a 88 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,000 I mean, there's like, I took a bunch of screenshots of it 89 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Like, they're about this tall little puppets 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,000 They almost look like Randy Ice 91 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Only this head pops off and they put a different head on to make expressions 92 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Yeah 93 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,000 A bunch of times 94 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,000 And it's like, and so then I went on a deep dive and I was like, wow, this had to take forever to make 95 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Three years 96 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Three and a half years 97 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 129,000 shots 98 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 It was like what, like 30 minutes for like one second? 99 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:13,000 Yeah, it's insane 100 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Like, there's something like crazy like that 101 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,000 Yeah, that's insane 102 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,000 So when I did a claymation, an actual with clay claymation 103 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:25,000 For a high school class and it was shit 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 It looked cool, but it wasn't nearly as fluid, right? 105 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Like obviously 106 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 You guys shoot so many frames per second 107 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,000 And we didn't have the high quality 108 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Exactly 109 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 We were literally just taking pictures and then throwing them into a movie 110 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Right 111 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Like they had cameras they were taking 112 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Almost like a flip book 113 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 Yeah, but digital 114 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,000 It makes it like actually puts, yeah, but it's still a little janky, right? 115 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Right 116 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 So yeah, this is insane 117 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 The technology is insane 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,000 It reminds me of, well, two things come to mind 119 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Robot Chicken uses similar techniques because those are dolls 120 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Right 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,000 And it uses like, but I think that also has to use a lot more digital stuff 122 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 It's got to 123 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 I was thinking about that if you were to remake this today, would you just do it all digitally? 124 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 They would because they did with Corpse Bride 125 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Paranorman, Paranorman they actually did it a lot like this 126 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 Because Paranorman was a stop motion with dolls as well 127 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 That's right, and Paranorman's amazing 128 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,000 It's great 129 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 If you haven't seen Paranorman, that's another one 130 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 It's not Tim Burton though 131 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 It's, actually shit, it might be produced by him 132 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 No, because he did Frankenweenie 133 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 He did, okay, so he did Frankenweenie 134 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 I think Paranorman was a different guy, I think 135 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Because it's also not the same style of character, similar 136 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Similar, yeah 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,000 But very good 138 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 I remember, I haven't seen that in so long 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 I watched that in theaters, I liked it a lot 140 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 But Robot Chicken and 141 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 What's the other one that, oh 142 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Celebrity Deathmatch 143 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Now that, I think that was Clay 144 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 That was absolutely Clay, that was hilarious 145 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 And also Janky 146 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 But they also had dolls too 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Like, it was weird because I don't think 148 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,000 It was like a combination 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,000 I don't think every one of them was Clay 150 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 I think they used Clay as their effects 151 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 So like, I think like when someone needed to, you know, like then they would 152 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 For certain things, but I think they had dolls because 153 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 I remember an ex-girlfriend of mine 154 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Worked with the guy who created 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Celebrity Deathmatch, they were pulling out old 156 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Like, figures for, from it 157 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 So, to like dust off and stuff 158 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I also saw a documentary where they were restoring 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 The Jack Skellington, the, like, one of the dolls 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 One of the puppets that they have 161 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 It's been so long now, and it's like 162 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Age and stuff 163 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 Even no matter how you preserve it 164 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Gets to things, so they have to like go in and like 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Very delicately with like 166 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 You know, like tiny little tweezers 167 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 And little brushes, like take care of him 168 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,000 Like put new, like, veneer on him or whatever to keep him 169 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,000 Fresh 170 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Fresh, for as long as you can 171 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 So, let's get into it 172 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 First off, we get the 173 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000 It opens with the trees 174 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Which is, I think, the most interesting part of the whole universe of 175 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 Nightmare Before Christmas 176 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Well, we were actually talking, they could have made all the different 177 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 They could have made sequels to this, it would have been great 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Yeah, of course, yeah, and I think that's been discussed 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Just by doing the different trees 180 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Just like going to a different tree 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 I think, right now 182 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 They thought about doing it, and they decided not to 183 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 They decided against it 184 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Which one? Tim Burton says absolutely no 185 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Never a sequel 186 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,000 Yeah, he's like, this movie was perfect 187 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Yeah, he's like, no 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,000 And I see that thought process, especially artists, they don't want it 189 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Yeah 190 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 No, but here's, I get 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 You don't want to muddy the waters 192 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 I get that 193 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 At the same time 194 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,000 You want more 195 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,000 At the same time, why not give the guy that made this 196 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 The first one 197 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Give him $10 million to do a 198 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Well, no, no, to do a three minute Disney 199 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 No, no, no, that's what I'm saying 200 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 To do a three minute Disney follow Zero around 201 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Just give us a little Zero story 202 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 It doesn't have to fuck with the continuity 203 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,000 There's some shorts 204 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 Like some shorts 205 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,000 How about what happened to Zero after Jack went in the tree 206 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Because Zero's outside the tree 207 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,000 Maybe he, maybe another door opens 208 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Seriously, they make it like those little scratch 209 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 You know, they have the little scratch ones they put before the movies 210 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Or like the little Groots, yeah, the like little Groots 211 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 I thought they did do something with Zero 212 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Like some sort of short or something like that with Zero back in the day 213 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,000 I could have sworn there was some sort of like story with Zero like going around 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Doing something 215 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 I just incepted that memory into your brain 216 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Maybe 217 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 With just how good of an idea it was 218 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 I think you're just literally going, oh yeah, that sounds amazing 219 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 But then again, maybe I'm remembering a short 220 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 And thinking it's my own original idea 221 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 I thought it was like him going around the graveyard 222 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,000 Kind of like just kind of looking for Jack 223 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 Because he was just kind of sad 224 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Maybe, now that you're saying it, that does sound somewhat familiar 225 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,000 That could be a thing 226 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 It could be a thing 227 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Well, in the comments, put below if we are remembering something 228 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Or if I'm so good 229 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Mandela effect 230 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Yeah, the Mandela effect 231 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Or if you're from the alternate timeline that didn't get that version 232 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 If you're from the same timeline as us 233 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,000 So there was St. Patrick's Day, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and Halloween are the holidays 234 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,000 What a weird fucking grove of trees that is 235 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Fucking two of them are explicitly Christian holidays 236 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,000 So Christ has to be involved with Easter and Christmas 237 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 Easter, yes, Christmas is not Christmas 238 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,000 I've always had this argument though with Christmas 239 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Because Christmas was a pagan holiday 240 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 That Christians took over 241 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 I'll give you 242 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Easter was a 243 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Easter was? I didn't know Easter 244 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Easter was a, it's about fertility 245 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,000 But I don't think the people who, no, no, but here's the thing 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:52,000 The Easter represented by the Easter Bunny 247 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Well, he had an egg on it, it was an egg 248 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 I know, but that version of Easter 249 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Easter Bunny, Easter egg is the resurrection of Christ Easter 250 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,000 I think whatever 251 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 See, I thought the eggs came into play for 252 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,000 What the hell does the bunny have to do with it? 253 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Yeah, the bunny and the eggs both had to do with the fertility 254 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Oh, fertility is the bunny 255 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 I just wondered why it was a bunny 256 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,000 But what I'm saying, because it's Easter, right? Easter Bunny 257 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,000 But why? 258 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 I don't know why they picked a bunny 259 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,000 And it could be because of fertility 260 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,000 I thought that's what it was 261 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000 I'm sure that's the history behind it 262 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,000 But what I'm saying is if you explicitly make an Easter door on your Easter tree 263 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 And you put a decorated Easter egg 264 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,000 You're going modern contemporary Easter 265 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 You're going middle class white America Easter 266 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 Is what you're doing by painting eggs on the door or whatever 267 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:51,000 You're going this is Christ died, was resurrected Easter that we're now celebrating by dying eggs 268 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 This was the 90s 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 It's just weird to think about anyway 270 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Yeah, it's weird 271 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 The whole thing's weird 272 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Plus, then Christmas again, pagan holiday that the Christians repurposed into 273 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,000 We're going to now say that Jesus was born on the 25th 274 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 We already arbitrarily picked that day and we'll just celebrate it 275 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Which is fine, and you could do that, Christians 276 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 But what a weird 277 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Thanksgiving is a holiday that 278 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Also a weird holiday 279 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 Straight American 280 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 It's straight up American values 281 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Plus, what are we celebrating with Thanksgiving? 282 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 Because we know that the 283 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,000 It's all lies 284 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,000 The Native Americans didn't 285 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,000 Thanksgiving is 100% lies 286 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,000 There wasn't a huge feast with turkey 287 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,000 It was smallpox 288 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 There was smallpox blankets and fucking shots 289 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 So that's a weird 290 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 If you go into Thanksgiving world 291 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 What are you celebrating? 292 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 That's probably where it becomes like one of those 293 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 It's cowboys and Indians 294 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 That'd be hilarious though if they did that 295 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 It'd be pilgrims and Indians 296 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,000 And what the fuck are pilgrims known for besides killing Native Americans? 297 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,000 It's worshipping Jesus 298 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,000 That's their whole thing 299 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,000 That's three Jesus-centric holidays if you ask me 300 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Now, Halloween is its own thing 301 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:16,000 There should have been a lot more Mexican Day of the Dead stuff in this 302 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,000 It's shocking that there wasn't a single sugar skull 303 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 That there wasn't a single sombrero-wearing guy 304 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,000 There wasn't like 305 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 I would have even taken a 306 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Didn't age well, slightly racist 307 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 As long as they kept some representation of 308 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Day of the Dead 309 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Because I know that it was the 90s 310 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,000 They probably would have fucked that up 311 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 It would have been a Speedy Gonzalez 312 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,000 But I still would have wanted something 313 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Because it's weird that they just cut that out 314 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 They covered a lot of Halloween stuff 315 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,000 And they just 316 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 And then St. Patrick's Day 317 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Fucking St. Patrick's Day 318 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Get drunk 319 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Now that would be the stereotypical answer, right? 320 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Well, there was one with the firework on it too 321 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,000 Fourth of July 322 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 I didn't see the firework one 323 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Okay, so Fourth of July 324 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,000 It's an American-centric 325 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,000 Because it was Fourth of July 326 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 It was Fourth of July or there was an English holiday 327 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 That's also kind of similar 328 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Listen 329 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Thanksgiving is on this 330 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 It's not the English whatever you're thinking 331 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 No, I know 332 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,000 But they were saying that 333 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 Guy Fawkes Day? 334 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,000 What? 335 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Guy Fawkes Day? 336 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Where they tried to blow up Parliament? 337 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Not Guy Fawkes Day 338 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 It's 339 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,000 The 5th of November 340 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,000 November 341 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,000 Remember the 5th of November? 342 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Yeah 343 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,000 Goddamn 344 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,000 V for Vendetta 345 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 Really did a good job at teaching us 346 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 A random British history fact 347 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,000 Yeah 348 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Just good job V for Vendetta 349 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 I do want to just point out just before I forget 350 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,000 That if you watch this on Disney Plus 351 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,000 There's a ton of cool extras in there 352 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Extra content? 353 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Yeah 354 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,000 Okay 355 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,000 Thank you 356 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Because I did watch this on Disney Plus 357 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,000 And there's a shitload of things I did not remember ever watching on it 358 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 So this must be the extended cut 359 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 Yeah, but there's also extras below that 360 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 If you go down and look at the extras 361 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000 There's also a bunch of extras 362 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,000 I didn't see that 363 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Is there anything with Zero? 364 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,000 A little short with Zero? 365 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 No, there's a couple of shorts with Oogie Boogie that were cut out 366 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 There were some cut scenes 367 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Yeah, deleted scenes 368 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Yeah, like the drawing board scenes 369 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:25,000 I think our friend Zach would be remiss of us if we didn't mention that 370 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Nightmare Before Christmas is a fully playable world in the Kingdom Hearts series 371 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,000 So if you're unfamiliar with the Kingdom Hearts series 372 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 It's a really fun blend 373 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:42,000 It's a Disney game where you play as a kid who teams up with Goofy and Donald to try to find King Mickey 374 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 And then you team up with Final Fantasy characters 375 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 So it's kind of a fun thing 376 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 So because it's Disney, you go to all these different worlds 377 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,000 One of them being Nightmare Before Christmas 378 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 It's super cool 379 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000 It has all the music 380 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,000 You fight Oogie Boogie 381 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,000 You team up with Jack 382 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Your characters become monsters when you show up there 383 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,000 You look like Halloween people 384 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,000 It's very well done 385 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 There's also, I think, the Nightmare Before Christmas game 386 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,000 And I think it was really bad 387 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,000 I think people hated it 388 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,000 And it had some weird stretchy mechanic for Jack that people just didn't understand 389 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Like a PlayStation 2 game? 390 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,000 It felt like a PlayStation 2 391 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,000 I think I have a PlayStation 2 392 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,000 So weird collection of holidays 393 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Don't know who created this grove of trees 394 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 I don't know how the trees work, by the way 395 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:33,000 So you go into the tree to get to Halloween Town 396 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,000 How do you get out? 397 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 You walk out of Halloween Town back to the grove 398 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Because Jack left Halloween Town and walked out to the grove 399 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 So how does that tree work? 400 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,000 The tree takes you... 401 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Magic, Andy 402 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000 I don't... 403 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,000 Magic! 404 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Halloween magic 405 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,000 They didn't once establish that that's the case with this 406 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,000 That there's some sort of teleportation magic at play 407 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,000 But whatever, okay 408 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,000 So we got both Christ... 409 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,000 So we got all the Christ holidays 410 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,000 St. Patrick's, I did put it's American drinking holiday 411 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 So if we're Americanizing it, yeah 412 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,000 You do go in there and you're drunk by the time you get out the other side 413 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 British Bonfire Night, that's what it was called 414 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 I'm sure that's what it was 415 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,000 So sorry, it was St. Patrick's Day, Easter, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Halloween 416 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,000 And then British Bonfire Night was the... 417 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,000 Let me just cross off 4th of July here 418 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 British Bonfire Night 419 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,000 British Bonfire Night 420 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,000 There we go 421 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,000 Celebrated famously on... 422 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,000 I don't know 423 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,000 Oh, okay, well shit 424 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Just a firework 425 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,000 British Isles, just fireworks 426 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:41,000 When I went to France, it was their Independence Day 427 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Which is obviously a different day than ours 428 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,000 But what they do is... 429 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,000 So we're in south of France, like middle, maybe middle of France 430 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 And we're at this rooftop party at the hostel that we were at 431 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,000 It was awesome 432 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,000 We were a bunch of just random people from all over the place 433 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,000 And we all smelled burning, like rubber in the air 434 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:06,000 And they told us, the locals are like, well yeah, it's Bastille Day 435 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 It's like Bastille Day, they'll light your car on fire if you leave it out 436 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 I'm like, what? 437 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,000 It's like, yeah, if you park your car out on the street, they're going to light that shit on fire 438 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,000 I'm like, why? 439 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 It's like, we celebrated Independence 440 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 I'm like, what? 441 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,000 By burning cars? 442 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Then I had some more beers and I forgot all about it 443 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,000 I just had a burning rubber 444 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,000 I'm glad I don't have a car here 445 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Exactly, I was like, fuck it, I'm going by train 446 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Let's go light a car on fire, it's okay 447 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Shit, I should have 448 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,000 You should have, why didn't you? 449 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,000 Damn it, why didn't I light a car on fire? 450 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,000 I wasn't prepared 451 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,000 One chance 452 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,000 I wasn't 453 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,000 You know what? 454 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,000 You're being an American 455 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,000 I don't think you're allowed to 456 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Light cars on fire 457 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,000 So I'm sure if I were caught, I would still very much be arrested 458 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,000 You're just like, what? 459 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,000 They said we can't 460 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,000 It's a holiday 461 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,000 We're independent 462 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000 I thought this was America 463 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000 Yeah 464 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000 I thought this was America, Fritz 465 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,000 He thought this was Fritz 466 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,000 I thought this was Fritz 467 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,000 I thought this was Fritz 468 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,000 So, yeah, okay 469 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,000 So, oh, we get the opening song 470 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,000 It's fine, we get introduced to everybody 471 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Oogie Boogie has a part in their town song 472 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,000 That they're all collaboratively singing together 473 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:21,000 So Oogie Boogie is a functioning member and part of this Halloween town 474 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,000 I don't know why he's billed to be the bad guy 475 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:31,000 At not one point in this movie do I think Oogie Boogie is any more or less evil than anybody else in Halloween town 476 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,000 And he's just doing literally what every other Halloween town resident does 477 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Yeah, it's kind of weird that they make him out to be the bad guy 478 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Well, the bad guy's Jack 479 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Yeah 480 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 To me 481 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 He's ruining Christmas 482 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,000 He's also trying to impose his new religion on his 483 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,000 He's forcing it on 484 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,000 He's forcing his 485 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,000 He doesn't bother to ask a single person if they're going to celebrate Christmas 486 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 He forces his new religion on his followers 487 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Although I do enjoy when he's explaining Christmas to the town people 488 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,000 And he's like, you know, and these toys, and they're like, well, what do they do? 489 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Do they kill people? Do they maim them? 490 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000 No, they're too fun 491 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Yeah 492 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,000 They're like, oh, okay 493 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Yeah 494 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,000 So I agree with you 495 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Jack might be the villain 496 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 But you know what? 497 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,000 What perspective are we looking at this from? 498 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 Are we looking at it from, if we're looking at it from like the 499 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,000 An outside perspective 500 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,000 The denizens 501 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,000 Watching the movie 502 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,000 From an outside perspective to me, Jack is, he's the protagonist who's trying to 503 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,000 Hold on, let me pretend to be a human being watching a movie for a second 504 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Because that's not how my brain works 505 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 You go in the movie, right? 506 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:43,000 I am one of the citizens of either Halloween town 507 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 I'm the, I'm a 508 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,000 You worship Jack in whatever he tells you you're going to do 509 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 I'm a landscaper for the grove of trees 510 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 That's what my job would be 511 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Yeah, so okay 512 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Yeah, I guess he, he would be a bad guy, I like that, that look, that outlook on it 513 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Because he does, he leaves 514 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 He kidnaps Santa Claus, come on, of course he's a bad guy 515 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 He does kidnap Santa Claus 516 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000 What are you talking about? 517 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,000 And what is with Santa Claus's hands? I'm sorry 518 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,000 The only thing in the whole animation, this whole movie 519 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,000 Was the hands that were so tiny on Santa Claus 520 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 I loved it, it was kind of, it was something 521 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 His feet were small too 522 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000 His hands 523 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000 I like it, it was everybody's hands and feet, I like 524 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Except for Jack's 525 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Yeah, I wonder if that's on purpose 526 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Skeletonia probably 527 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,000 I highly recommend that you go on YouTube 528 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,000 And you rewatch, you type in Nightmare Before Christmas tool 529 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,000 And you watch the opening song 530 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,000 But they get rid of the audio and instead put a tool song on 531 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,000 That syncs up perfectly like Wizard of Oz and Pink Floyd 532 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000 It's a perfect sync, it is awesome 533 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Or listen to Korn's Kidnap the Santa Claus 534 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Oh yeah, there's an entire album, Mike, I don't know if you knew this 535 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,000 An entire album where they got 536 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Jonathan Davis from Korn 537 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,000 They got Flyleaf, they got Fall Out Boy 538 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,000 They got literally all the big names from 15 years ago 539 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,000 To do covers of these songs 540 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,000 So every single one, What's This, Kidnap Santa Claus 541 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,000 They're all like 542 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 What about Oingo Boingo? 543 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Do they do one? They might be 544 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 They should be because it's Danny Elfin 545 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Yeah, it's Danny Elfin, so they should 546 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Which the music in this is 547 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Oh, the music's great, there's no 548 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,000 The score in this I love 549 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,000 On second or third or fourth, probably tenth watch now that I'm on 550 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 The songs, there's only a couple that I like 551 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,000 There's now more songs that I'm not a fan of 552 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Than songs I am a fan of 553 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 And I am a fan of musicals 554 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 But one of my notes down here 555 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 I put 556 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,000 Oh, so I guess not every song is a banger 557 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000 And that's Sally's fucking lament at the end or whatever 558 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Like so fucking boring 559 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,000 But most of the songs are good 560 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 I think the tree with corpses 561 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Still hanging from its branches was probably 562 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000 Like maybe a little too much for kids 563 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Well, that's why a lot of this movie's a little much for kids 564 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Oogie Boogie's kind of scary for kids 565 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 I still haven't quite shown it to my kids 566 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Like I was going to watch it with my five-year-old 567 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,000 You're just kidnapping Santa Claus in his sleep 568 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000 It's a little traumatic for children 569 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Or the kids that get snakes for presents, you know 570 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Like the old 571 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 There's some traumatic stuff in here if you were a little kid 572 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,000 There is, yeah 573 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000 All the female monsters want to fuck Jack 574 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Yeah, I found that a little hot 575 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 That's another thing for kids, yes 576 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,000 When Jack leaves, you can hear the mayor saying 577 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,000 An award for the most blood-drained 578 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,000 And I was like, holy shit, that's dark 579 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 But then he says an honorable mention 580 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Goes to the fabulous dark lagoon leeches 581 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,000 And I was like, I don't think I've ever heard that part 582 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,000 But it's like, that's fun 583 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000 Honorable mention to the leeches 584 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Honorable mention to the leeches 585 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Yeah 586 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,000 I don't know who created the tree worlds 587 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,000 But why or how could a creature like Jack exist 588 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Being unsatisfied with being a Halloween guy 589 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,000 So I'm imagining whatever God created Halloween world 590 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Would make the people in Halloween world, the monsters 591 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Like 99% of all the monsters we saw 592 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Totally happy and fine being monsters and living in Halloween world 593 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,000 Why would Jack, even being introduced to something new 594 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Like why wouldn't that like scare him 595 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 Like, you know, there should be safeguards at play 596 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000 That was my surprise was that he wasn't scared at Christmas 597 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,000 That it was so different 598 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000 That it would be off-putting not so different 599 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,000 That it would make him want to go to the 600 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,000 Yeah, that's a bit of a weird 601 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,000 But does it show him unsatisfied before he goes? 602 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Yeah, that's right, he's unsatisfied 603 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000 He's bored 604 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,000 He's bored 605 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Okay, so, yeah, you know what? 606 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 Never mind, I take back my critique 607 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 I think it's fine 608 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000 This is a good movie 609 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,000 Oh, but I don't like that he keeps singing about how he's the scariest monster 610 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,000 And that he's the best one 611 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000 He was the king 612 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 He was their leader 613 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000 But in his song he's like, I'm the scariest one 614 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,000 Like he says that he scares more people than anybody else 615 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,000 Well, because maybe he does, we don't see that 616 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,000 We do 617 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000 Every time he blinks 618 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,000 We see 619 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,000 Every time he blinks 620 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,000 No, but we see him do a scary face to the three trick-or-treaters 621 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,000 When he's telling them to kidnap Santa Claus 622 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000 He says to them, he goes like 623 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Or else, like, he does like a scary face 624 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,000 And I'm like, bro, that's not even close to being scary 625 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Like compared to literally a tree running after you 626 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,000 That has corpses hanging from its branches 627 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000 And it has a menacing face 628 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 That would scare the shit 629 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000 If I walked outside and a tree was like, hello, Andy 630 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,000 And starts running at me and it has corpses 631 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,000 I would shit myself 632 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000 Maybe there's a whole dark side to Jack Skellington 633 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,000 We don't know 634 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Maybe he just makes the bodies disappear 635 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Bro, I bet Jack Skellington 636 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Fucks with, like, whoever he's scaring 637 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000 Yeah 638 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 Like, it's a kid sleeping in the bed 639 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000 And he's like looking at them 640 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Like he does the real creepy shit that stays with you 641 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,000 So he's like 642 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000 So when he gets back 643 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 They're just like, not a lot of screams this year, Jack 644 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,000 He's like, no, it'll pay off in therapy 20 years from now 645 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Like, don't even worry about it 646 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 I've played a long game 647 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,000 I'll be thinking about that forever 648 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 I'm an immortal Halloween creature 649 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 I play the long game 650 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,000 I make little deposits here 651 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 That'll ruin people in the future 652 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000 That's what makes him the best 653 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Yeah 654 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,000 It does 655 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,000 Okay, sure 656 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000 So he's just fucked up 657 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Jack's fucked up 658 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,000 Yeah 659 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 The mayor humming 660 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,000 This is Halloween 661 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 It's kind of fun 662 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 I like that as he was going 663 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Yeah 664 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 As he's, like, going up 665 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,000 I was like, I like that little callback 666 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 I always loved the mayor being two-faced 667 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 Yeah, two-faced mayor 668 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Just the mayor even being the mayor 669 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,000 When Jack's really in charge 670 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000 Yeah 671 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000 It's kind of funny, too 672 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,000 He's not in charge of anything 673 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Yeah, but he even sort of says 674 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000 When Jack leaves, he's like, 675 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Well, I'm just a figurehead or whatever 676 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,000 Yeah 677 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000 But, and I know he is two-faced 678 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,000 And I know that's the joke 679 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,000 But his two faces aren't that dissimilar 680 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000 No, they're the same 681 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,000 One's more frantic, I guess 682 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,000 One's more frantic 683 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000 But they both are 684 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Scared 685 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000 They're not a bad character 686 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,000 Like, they're not anti-Jack at any point 687 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000 No 688 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000 I expected a two-faced, like, maybe the head to flip 689 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000 And, like, now he's working with Oogie Boogie or something 690 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Oh, yeah 691 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,000 To undermine Jack's attempt to make Christmas, right? 692 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Yeah 693 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Or maybe, you know what? 694 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000 If Jack had made all the presents correct 695 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 And then they went through an Oogie Boogie factory 696 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000 He fucked them all up before putting them in the bag 697 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,000 And then Jack was unknowingly fucking with kids 698 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,000 Or, like, scaring people as he was going through 699 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Yeah, because Jack didn't really change 700 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,000 That would have made Oogie Boogie more of a bad guy 701 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000 And Jack more of a good guy 702 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,000 It would have made Jack more sympathetic 703 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Right 704 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Instead, it's like, no 705 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,000 Instead, it just makes Jack ignorant to what Christmas is 706 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Even though I've read and memorized every carol 707 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 I know all the rhymes 708 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 I know every single thing there is to know about Christmas 709 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Except what presents to give 710 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Except what 711 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,000 A wooden train does not mean a snake that's going to attack kids 712 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,000 You should know this 713 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,000 The Beetlejuice snake 714 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Yeah, exactly 715 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 That actually did 716 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000 That's what it was modeled after 717 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 You're fucking right 718 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,000 Because it's the same 719 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,000 It's Tim Burton's of all 720 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 So, yeah, shit 721 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 I thought it looked similar 722 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,000 So, yeah, how did Jack walk out of the tree? 723 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000 Why didn't Zero go through the Christmas door 724 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Since he is a ghost? 725 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,000 And why didn't anybody listen to Sally? 726 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,000 Yeah 727 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Sally the whole time 728 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,000 The whole time she's the only smart one 729 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Yeah, she's the only one 730 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,000 As usual, no one listens to women 731 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:48,000 If Austin were here, he would call her the C word and say it was her fault 732 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:57,000 So, I put what, okay, so during the What's This song 733 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:02,000 He, and I realized later this is probably just his ignorance 734 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,000 But he goes over to the elves sleeping and he goes 735 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,000 The children are asleep with like no worries in their 736 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Like no nightmares in their head or whatever 737 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Like those aren't children, those are elves 738 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:20,000 But also why are they, why are their elves just playing around? 739 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,000 I feel like Christmas is ramping up 740 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Like I get that maybe Halloween just ended 741 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Let the Halloween town citizens do their shit 742 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000 They gotta work the night shift or something 743 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 They're sleeping for their shift 744 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,000 You know what I just keep thinking that they 745 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000 You just got me to the main problem I have with this movie 746 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,000 I really do have an issue 747 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000 Yeah, what? 748 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:48,000 I wrote it down just because I blame this movie for running Thanksgiving 749 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 Because it skips over it 750 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Because, well not the movie itself, but the world does 751 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Before this movie came out, literally 752 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Yeah, you're preaching 753 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000 In real life, before this movie came out 754 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,000 You would go to the store at Halloween 755 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,000 You get your Halloween shit 756 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,000 And then they take that shit down 757 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 And they put up some Thanksgiving shit 758 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,000 Yep, I remember that 759 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,000 And then they take down the Thanksgiving shit 760 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 After Thanksgiving 761 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,000 I miss those days 762 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000 This movie came out and from that day forward 763 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,000 Every Christmas thing went out at Halloween 764 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,000 From this day, from the day this fucking movie came out 765 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Well I think it started happening before that 766 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Because that's what inspired Tim Burton to write the poem 767 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,000 No, this is 80, no 768 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Yeah, he couldn't have 769 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 I was alive, I remember having Thanksgiving shit 770 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000 They used to put like literally things to put on your table 771 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Centerpieces, they had a whole Thanksgiving section at Walmart 772 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,000 Go to Walmart right now, no Thanksgiving at all 773 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,000 It's no Thanksgiving 774 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,000 But what he said that inspired him to write the poem that he wrote 775 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,000 That wrote this was watching them take down Halloween decorations 776 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000 And put up Christmas decorations 777 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 But now they're doing them together, that's my point 778 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,000 Now they're doing it together, yeah 779 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,000 They're not even taken down 780 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Thanksgiving's just gone 781 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Thanksgiving doesn't even exist anymore 782 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000 And it's Tim Burton's fault 783 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Or the director 784 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000 Well because, to lift the curtain a little bit 785 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Because we've been doing some Christmas movies for quite a while 786 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000 My wife is ready to put up the tree 787 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000 And we are still in the beginning of November 788 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000 And I'm not ready for that 789 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000 I'm like give me my Thanksgiving 790 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Where we put our tree is where our sides 791 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 We put an extra table up for sides, hors d'oeuvres 792 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 Thanksgiving table 793 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Yeah, snacks leading up to the main meal 794 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000 I have a Thanksgiving centerpiece to go on my table 795 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Thank you very much 796 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,000 I plan on attending possibly both of your guys' 797 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Thanksgivings again if I'm invited to Mike's 798 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,000 That was great last year 799 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,000 I double dipped 800 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,000 I had someone covered in baby urine 801 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,000 Hand me with their physical fingers, ham 802 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,000 But, okay, other than that 803 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,000 So I didn't get to try any ham at that one scenario 804 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,000 That was my main takeaway from this movie 805 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,000 I get that 806 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,000 They were on Thanksgiving 807 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Thanksgiving should have some 808 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000 But you know what, at the same time 809 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Since we discussed it earlier 810 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000 The meaning behind it 811 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 The meaning behind Thanksgiving is kind of bullshit 812 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000 And maybe we should erase it a little bit from our culture 813 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Because what are we celebrating? 814 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000 We're celebrating 815 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,000 We celebrated as family holiday though 816 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000 We don't really celebrate it as that 817 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Nobody celebrates it as the origin 818 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000 How do you think Native Americans feel about Thanksgiving? 819 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Like do you think they get together and they're like 820 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,000 I don't know, that's a good question actually 821 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Let's honor our debt 822 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Let's honor the 823 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 It'll be like day of the dead for them 824 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000 Yeah, shit, kind of is 825 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Maybe the laugh at the end was a little sinister, Mike 826 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000 But yeah, that was a good point you made 827 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,000 That was a good point you made so evilly 828 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:44,000 But yeah, it is 829 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,000 But yeah, holy shit 830 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,000 Because even a turkey gets a pardon from the president on Thanksgiving 831 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000 Native Americans got nothing when we came over 832 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Except genocide 833 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 Except entirely wiping them out 834 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,000 And I know this is now an unpopular opinion to have 835 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Weirdly is that the new narrative going up through some circles is that 836 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 That it's good that we took over America 837 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 And that like we were doing a better job 838 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,000 I don't like that 839 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 I've heard that a few times now on YouTube 840 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000 People going like 841 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Well yeah, it's bullshit that we genocide into people 842 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 They were wiping each other out all the time 843 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000 And we just came in and made things proper 844 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 I'm like, that is the wrong take, buddy 845 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,000 Wrong take, man 846 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000 No, we annihilated, we wiped out people 847 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,000 Then we robbed Mexico of a shitload of land 848 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 I don't know, that's another thing too 849 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,000 We killed a bunch of Mexicans to get that bottom part of America 850 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000 But it shaped better this way 851 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000 That's just history in general 852 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Yeah, it's the shape 853 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,000 It's shaped better 854 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,000 But then we didn't do anything wrong ever again after making the country 855 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,000 We worked very hard 856 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Yeah, we didn't have slavery for hundreds of years 857 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Oh, there we go, I forgot about slavery 858 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,000 There we go 859 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000 And then also we're still segregated in some areas 860 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Yeah, but according to Florida history books right now 861 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 According to Florida history books 862 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,000 This is legit, according to Florida history books, four children now 863 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 On their Prager U thing 864 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,000 Slaves didn't have it that bad 865 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,000 They lived productive lives and they learned valuable skills that helped them later on in life 866 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,000 I guess being slaves 867 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000 American history starts at 9-11 now for kids 868 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000 Oh, Jesus, 9-11 happened 869 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000 And the Muslims are the bad ones 870 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,000 Nothing happened before that 871 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000 Nothing bad happened before that 872 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000 We were always good 873 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Except for Jesus, I just said, sorry, that was another bad one 874 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 They killed Jesus, but yeah 875 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Sorry, we're getting a little too 876 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 A little too something here 877 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000 This is supposed to be my nightmare for Christmas 878 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Someone put 879 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,000 We cannot do a kids movie and keep it to the genitals 880 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000 It's impossible 881 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Our kids movies are always our most innocent 882 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 It's impossible 883 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,000 One of those 884 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000 So dumb 885 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Our kids movies are literally always our most dirty 886 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000 Our political 887 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Our whatever 888 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,000 Always kids movies 889 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 One and two is three hours of film 890 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000 Geez, I wonder why 891 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000 There's a lyric 892 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,000 I peeked behind the cyclops eye 893 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,000 And I just put I bet he didn't like that 894 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,000 It was just a stupid joke I wrote for myself 895 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,000 But 896 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000 Why did Jack 897 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 Or where did Jack get all those books 898 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000 I guess maybe when he went 899 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000 To a kidnaps place 900 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 He stole from them 901 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 They didn't show it 902 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000 But he took them 903 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 That's right, okay 904 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000 And then Jack 905 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000 Maybe there was another tree that was a book 906 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000 Library 907 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000 That'd be cool 908 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Library world 909 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Page master 910 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 Page master 911 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Was the dream 912 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Do you remember page master, Mike? 913 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Not as a dream, I was much older 914 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000 I do not have 915 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Fond memories of page master 916 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Bro, it starts off live action 917 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000 And then the color comes in so 918 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Amazingly 919 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000 What a great, you know what I remember that storm 920 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000 So vividly 921 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,000 Him riding his bike 922 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000 You sound like you're describing the wizard of Oz 923 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000 He says the 924 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Oh yeah, kind of 925 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,000 I remember that storm 926 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000 The color comes in so vividly 927 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 The witch is my favorite 928 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000 But I love it 929 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000 They 930 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,000 That's so good 931 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,000 I love your idea 932 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 Way more, I'd much rather live in 933 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Page master world 934 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,000 But 935 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000 What I was thinking is 936 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,000 More like there's a 937 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 Kindle book that Stephen King wrote 938 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,000 Where 939 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,000 So when Kindle came out 940 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,000 The actual Kindle device 941 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Stephen King wrote a short story for 942 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Specifically just Kindle, exclusive to Kindle 943 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,000 About Kindle 944 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,000 And it's about a guy who 945 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Orders, he gets a Kindle sent 946 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000 To him 947 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000 Which is funny because 948 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Everyone else has the white Kindle 949 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Or whatever, or the gray Kindle 950 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Whatever Kindle was out, there's only one color 951 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 He got a pink one 952 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000 And so everyone who sees his Kindle 953 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,000 Because again, this is right when it came out 954 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000 They're like, holy shit, you have a different Kindle 955 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,000 But now you wouldn't think 956 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Twice about it because tablets and whatever 957 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,000 You know if someone had a Kindle 958 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000 Or if it's an iPad or whatever 959 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,000 So I always thought that was fun 960 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,000 But his Kindle lets him 961 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000 Read books from 962 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Anywhere in the multiverse 963 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000 So you can type in Stephen King 964 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,000 For instance, and read 965 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,000 If Stephen King, if there was a multiverse 966 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,000 Where, if there was a universe where Stephen King 967 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,000 Wrote exclusively romantic comedy 968 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Movies, scripts, or whatever 969 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,000 You can read those 970 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000 Or if, take a Dean Koontz and make him do 971 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Just like 972 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Dr. Seuss 973 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Dr. Seuss style children's books, right? 974 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000 And then you can find 975 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Then he finds, I think one point where he 976 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Wrote books, which is kind of cool 977 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000 Because I think he was 978 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Maybe kind of a struggling English teacher 979 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000 Author, and then he like finds 980 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 A finished, like a version of himself 981 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000 That wrote all the books that he ever thought 982 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,000 He could be writing, they're good 983 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000 So does he just like take those books and rewrite them 984 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 In his own universe? I don't know if he does that 985 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000 I think that's the thing, because it is a short story 986 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,000 He might, he might have considered 987 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 Doing that, I can't remember 988 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Exactly the ending, but 989 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,000 No, I think 990 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,000 You just made the movie, the Beatles movie 991 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000 That was just out, oh, yesterday 992 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000 Yesterday, that was a good one 993 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,000 I love yesterday, that's one of my 994 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Top favorite Beatles movies 995 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Well, I like the 996 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,000 I like, Across the Universe 997 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,000 I also like 998 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Their weird, actual 999 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,000 Movie that they did, no, not Yellow Submarine 1000 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 That's bullshit, the other one, the even more 1001 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000 Obscure one, where they're outside 1002 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000 Where they're outside running around in a field 1003 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Is that the one where they're on the train, isn't it Hard Days Night? 1004 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 Is that a scene from Yellow 1005 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Submarine? The train one, yeah, no, it's Hard Days Night 1006 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,000 Yeah, terrible movie 1007 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000 Terrible, the Beatles were not good 1008 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,000 At acting 1009 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Again, I put Why Zooki Boogie being 1010 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000 An outcast, and then 1011 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,000 Not every song is a banger 1012 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,000 Uh 1013 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,000 Although Sally's song at the end is good 1014 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 I like her song at the end with Jack 1015 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 Although, most of the time I watch this 1016 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Movie, I don't quite make it to the end 1017 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 I kind of make it to like, just after like 1018 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 The Christmas stuff and all that 1019 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 And then I kind of lose interest for a little bit 1020 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Okay, my wife tells me 1021 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,000 My wife who's seen this movie a hundred times because of kids 1022 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000 Um 1023 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,000 She keeps telling me there's a sequel 1024 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,000 And I'm like, there's no sequel, I look it up 1025 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 There's no sequel, I think there's a book sequel 1026 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,000 I don't know, but I'm just telling you 1027 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 I tried to look it up 1028 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 Because she says that there's a sequel where Jack and Sally 1029 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 Get married or something, I'm like 1030 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000 She's insane, I think, I don't know what the hell 1031 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 She's talking about, she can't find it 1032 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 Anywhere 1033 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Mandela Effect 1034 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,000 Yeah, yeah 1035 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,000 I'm thinking it's something, what was the, you mentioned earlier 1036 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000 A different movie that was 1037 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,000 A current one similar 1038 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 To this that had 1039 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,000 Had similar characters? Yeah 1040 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Paranorman? 1041 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,000 No, there was a different thing 1042 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000 I was just trying to think if it was a different movie she was thinking of 1043 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,000 I just wanted to 1044 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 That could have related 1045 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 No, there is no sequel 1046 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Yeah, there's no sequel 1047 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Wasn't there another movie that they used 1048 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,000 Like the Jack Skellington puppet in 1049 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,000 For something? 1050 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000 Now that 1051 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,000 Maybe has made appearances 1052 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000 I wonder if there was like a TV thing 1053 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000 Or something that she saw, that's what I was trying to figure out 1054 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000 No, no, no, you're right 1055 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,000 There's a 1056 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000 There is a Jack Skellington 1057 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000 Now we're just Googling shit on the podcast 1058 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000 Fucking assholes 1059 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,000 Anyway, he's been in a lot of 1060 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000 Video games and 1061 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 He's been in attractions and then 1062 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 I don't know, maybe James and the Giant Peach 1063 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 James and the Giant Peach 1064 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000 I feel like they used 1065 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,000 2010's Alice in Wonderland 1066 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000 Just in the background 1067 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,000 He was hidden in the bubbles in Finding Nemo 1068 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000 And then 1069 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 Ralph breaks the internet 1070 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,000 Yeah, all Disney properties 1071 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000 Okay, yeah 1072 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000 Okay 1073 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000 So cool, anyway 1074 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,000 The parents in this universe 1075 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,000 Believe, know about 1076 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000 And depend on Santa for gifts 1077 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Because when they come 1078 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000 Downstairs after their kid 1079 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000 Meets Santa, they're like, what did Santa bring 1080 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000 The news is like Santa has been kidnapped 1081 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000 So they're aware of where Santa is 1082 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,000 Humans 1083 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000 Know that there's a Christmas door 1084 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,000 Like, they know that Santa's 1085 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Been kidnapped 1086 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Because they know he's not where he should be 1087 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Which is inside the Christmas door 1088 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 I don't think they know about the doors 1089 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,000 I think they know that he exists 1090 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000 But I think like the doors are only 1091 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000 Specific for the people that live in those towns 1092 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,000 But 1093 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 They see a skeleton running around 1094 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000 Being crazy pretending to be Santa 1095 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Is one thing 1096 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 That doesn't mean there is no Santa 1097 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,000 And Santa is missing 1098 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,000 They just know that there's a crazy man pretending to be Santa 1099 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,000 Unless you can send 1100 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Someone to Christmas land 1101 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000 And confirm that he's not there 1102 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000 That's what I'm saying, and it's the news 1103 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,000 They have to report what's fact 1104 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,000 They can't just make that up 1105 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 Wow 1106 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Okay 1107 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,000 That might be the dumbest thing I've ever said 1108 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000 Might be the dumbest thing you've ever said 1109 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,000 I think at one point 1110 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,000 In our entire podcasting history 1111 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,000 I've said so many stupid things 1112 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,000 But I think me saying the news 1113 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Has to report facts 1114 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000 Wow 1115 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,000 I'm a fucking moron 1116 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,000 I'm sorry, never mind 1117 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,000 You believe everything you read Andy? 1118 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Yeah, yeah, fuck 1119 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,000 Because you're like, that's what you go like 1120 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000 Because I've got this 1121 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000 I've got this friend, he's a prince in Ethiopia 1122 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,000 He needs your help 1123 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 So, oh, and then this is a surplus issue 1124 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000 Kind of thing, like a management issue 1125 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,000 But Santa gets kidnapped 1126 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,000 Jack goes out 1127 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000 Christmas Eve hits 1128 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000 Presumably 1129 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,000 Six, because this is the 96 1130 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Or wait, six billion people 1131 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,000 Seven billion people 1132 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000 How many of those have kids? 1133 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000 Probably 1134 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000 Five billion houses 1135 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000 Four billion houses 1136 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000 Right? Okay, so four 1137 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,000 No, because no, because everyone 1138 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,000 Doesn't live in a house 1139 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,000 Everyone doesn't live in their own house 1140 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000 I'd say like, let's just say two billion 1141 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Homes 1142 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,000 So Jack gets to two billion homes using his 1143 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000 Version of the reindeer 1144 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000 His skeleton reindeer, so they, I guess 1145 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000 That Dr. Finklestein 1146 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000 Or whatever his name is 1147 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,000 He is capable 1148 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Of artificially, through science 1149 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,000 Creating Christmas magic 1150 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,000 In the same principles that allow 1151 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Like the inter-dimensional, multiversal 1152 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000 Travel that Santa needs to 1153 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Because he has to, the only way 1154 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,000 Santa works is if he 1155 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000 Somehow lines up every kid's 1156 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,000 House via a wormhole 1157 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,000 And folds space 1158 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,000 Because like, I think that's how you could do it 1159 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,000 So if Santa needs to get to each person's house 1160 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,000 He's not going through a chimney 1161 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000 Santa is a multiversal 1162 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000 Not a multiversal, but a black hole 1163 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Folded over in space time and time again 1164 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,000 No, no, no, he just called 1165 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,000 They show it in the movie 1166 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,000 I know, in this movie 1167 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000 I'm talking about a real life Santa 1168 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000 Neil deGrasse Tyson 1169 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000 He talks about 1170 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,000 Black hole travel is 1171 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,000 Like, you would fold 1172 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000 You're folding space in, and you're just traveling 1173 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Through that spot, right? 1174 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,000 So, Santa is 1175 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000 A guy who knows how to fold time and space 1176 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,000 So what he does... Yeah, I was going to say 1177 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000 Does that also fold time? That's what I was wondering 1178 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000 Well, no, no, he doesn't need to fold time 1179 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000 Hear me out. He just follows the time zone 1180 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000 Well, no, he does. He does actually need to fold time 1181 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Imagine if every 1182 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,000 If he had access to a piece of paper 1183 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,000 And every house he needed to get to was on that same 1184 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,000 Piece of paper, and he could fold it an infinite amount of times 1185 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000 He could fold it 1186 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000 So he could one-shot it 1187 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,000 Or he could just go down a tube 1188 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 And throw the presents, I guess sideways 1189 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,000 Or through a tree or whatever, as he went through 1190 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000 Without having to... So, I think 1191 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,000 That's the way he would do it 1192 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,000 He would just fold time in on itself and space 1193 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,000 Compress it into one shot 1194 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,000 And go down the chimney 1195 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,000 So to speak, like a tube 1196 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000 And drop off all the presents 1197 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000 I just thought of that right now, and I needed to get out of my head 1198 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000 Because I think it was a pretty cool idea of what Santa is capable of 1199 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,000 Saved you from the news comment, yeah 1200 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,000 Yeah, thank you 1201 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,000 No, I'm still a fucking moron 1202 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,000 That deserves to be shot in the street 1203 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,000 But 1204 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,000 My point is 1205 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Jack Skellington, he does all of the shit 1206 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000 And gets back 1207 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000 Fights Oogie Boogie 1208 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,000 Free's Santa Claus 1209 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,000 Santa Claus goes back, presumably 1210 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,000 Takes all the bad gifts 1211 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000 And replaces them with good gifts, and still gets back in time 1212 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,000 For like typical 1213 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,000 That's how long it would normally take Christmas time 1214 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,000 He... If it takes him 1215 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000 All night at any other point 1216 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,000 In the future to do what he could 1217 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,000 Just did in a matter of probably 1218 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,000 Minutes, it seems like 1219 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,000 It's a waste of energy and time 1220 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000 You see what I'm saying? Like, he's been taking all night 1221 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000 To do something that he could very 1222 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,000 Clearly do, if I was his boss 1223 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000 If I was Santa's boss 1224 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000 I would see this display and I'd be like 1225 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,000 I'm so sorry you were kidnapped 1226 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000 We'll work on getting you better security 1227 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000 But now I know you could do this in eight minutes 1228 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,000 So... Are you thinking Santa Claus is paid hourly? 1229 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,000 Yeah, he's not paid hourly 1230 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000 He's a volunteer worker, man 1231 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,000 He's a volunteer worker 1232 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000 He volunteers his time 1233 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,000 I don't think he's a volunteer 1234 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,000 If I was Santa Claus's boss 1235 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,000 I'm the custodian of the grove of trees 1236 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,000 He is the boss 1237 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,000 No, that makes me the boss 1238 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000 Of these specific... 1239 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,000 You know what? Christ is the boss of these specific trees 1240 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000 If we're getting into it 1241 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000 Because the Irish love him 1242 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000 Thanksgiving is all about 1243 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,000 Spreading him 1244 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000 Throughout America 1245 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,000 Christmas is about his birth 1246 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,000 Easter is about his death 1247 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,000 British bonfire night 1248 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,000 Famously is about 1249 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,000 Yeah, I gotta hear this 1250 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000 British bonfire night is famously about 1251 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,000 I should have looked it up 1252 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,000 Because I was curious about it 1253 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000 What is British bonfire night? 1254 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,000 Well, everybody, leave in the comments 1255 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000 If you're from Britain 1256 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,000 And you celebrate British bonfire night 1257 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000 You know what day it is 1258 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,000 You know what it's in commemoration of 1259 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,000 I could blow some shit up 1260 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,000 Oogie Boogie is just the boogie man 1261 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,000 Doing boogie shit is my last note 1262 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,000 And I think this movie gets a B plus 1263 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000 I think it's a perfect 1264 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,000 Christmas Halloween hybrid movie 1265 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,000 There are not a lot of those in the world 1266 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,000 I believe one 1267 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000 This one doesn't 1268 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,000 But I challenge there to be another 1269 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,000 I absolutely would love more 1270 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000 Holiday mishmash movies 1271 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,000 Give me a Valentine's Day 1272 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,000 St. Patrick's Day movie 1273 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,000 I don't care 1274 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,000 It could be 1275 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000 Computer animated 1276 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000 Like 1277 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Rip off of Nightmare Before Christmas 1278 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,000 But just with different characters 1279 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,000 Doing different songs and doing different things 1280 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,000 And it would work 1281 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,000 Just don't do Americanized bullshit Hallmark 1282 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Pics 1283 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000 What's like a true 1284 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,000 How about like a Veterans Day movie 1285 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,000 There's not a Veterans Day movie 1286 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000 There's a lot of war movies 1287 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,000 But not 1288 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,000 I don't know how you would do that 1289 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000 Without showing war 1290 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,000 Ok I'll rate it 1291 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000 In the end 1292 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,000 The Nightmare Before Christmas is like finding out your grandma is secretly a rock star 1293 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,000 It's 1294 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000 Surprising 1295 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,000 But kind of awesome 1296 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,000 A little weird but kind of awesome 1297 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,000 Perfect 1298 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,000 Hollywood day movie for anyone who 1299 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,000 Thinks that it's a wonderful life and the 1300 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,000 Exorcist could both use a little more singing 1301 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,000 Yeah 1302 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,000 It's definitely a B plus 1303 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000 Four and a half out of five stars 1304 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000 Can't really find big flaws 1305 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000 A couple little flaws 1306 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000 Like you said some of the songs get a little repetitive 1307 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,000 But whatever 1308 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Especially watching it the first time 1309 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,000 It's great I can see after ten times 1310 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000 How some of the music could get a little 1311 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,000 Repetitive or whatever 1312 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,000 But I still give this a B plus because it's 1313 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000 It's so 1314 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000 Engrained in my head 1315 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000 As a just part of like 1316 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,000 What life is 1317 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,000 Life is at some point 1318 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000 Halloween and Christmas are going to come around 1319 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 They are going to be matched 1320 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,000 Completely together right 1321 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000 Just like at Walmart 1322 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,000 You said a regular B? 1323 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000 You said B plus 1324 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000 You have to make a trip to Disney at some point 1325 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,000 During the time when they change the 1326 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,000 Haunted Mansion 1327 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,000 Into Nightmare Before Christmas 1328 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000 The entire ride is 1329 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,000 Nightmare Before Christmas 1330 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000 And they have Jack Skellington's popcorn buckets too 1331 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,000 They sell Jack Skellington 1332 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,000 Popcorn buckets too around the time 1333 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,000 That sounds awesome 1334 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,000 I can't believe I've still never been 1335 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,000 It's because it cost a billion dollars 1336 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,000 I've not been yet 1337 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,000 Can't afford it, it's too much money 1338 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,000 This whole podcast has been 1339 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,000 Post Mike's heart attack 1340 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,000 All the new firsts 1341 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,000 It's like you're learning to be a man again 1342 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000 Learning to be a boy or something 1343 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000 This is your coming of age story 1344 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,000 The coming of a second age 1345 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,000 The coming of a middle age story 1346 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000 So what do you rate it? 1347 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,000 Yeah, I mean it's 1348 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000 Definitely an enjoyable movie 1349 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,000 It's definitely a classic 1350 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,000 The amount of work that they put into this movie 1351 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000 Shows the love behind it 1352 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000 You know 1353 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000 And yeah, it's great 1354 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,000 It is one of those ones that does get boring 1355 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000 A little bit in the second act 1356 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,000 But if you push past that second act 1357 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,000 It's great 1358 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,000 So I mean I would give it a solid B plus 1359 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,000 Oh, there we have it 1360 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000 Ladies and gentlemen 1361 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,000 You said B plus and 1362 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,000 Four and a five stars 1363 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,000 I said four and a half 1364 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000 That would be a B 1365 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,000 Four is a B 1366 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000 On our grading scale 1367 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,000 What grading scale were you using? 1368 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,000 He's changing it 1369 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000 My brain one 1370 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000 The one that's in my head 1371 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,000 Listen, I have told you from day one 1372 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,000 That this is the stupidest grading scale 1373 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,000 Ever invented 1374 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,000 Because I want to give it an A 1375 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,000 But I can't so I have to give it a B plus 1376 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000 Four and a half out of five is an A 1377 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,000 We're almost through the season 1378 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,000 It would be inconsistent to change now 1379 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,000 That's why it's a B plus 1380 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,000 Ladies and gentlemen 1381 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,000 I'm going to let you keep doing your grade 1382 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,000 Until I disagree 1383 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000 With it affecting 1384 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,000 How I feel about this 1385 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,000 As it has always been 1386 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,000 Thumb on the scale 1387 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,000 Right now, Brendan and I are saying 1388 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,000 This is a perfect movie 1389 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,000 You're saying it's a four and a half out of five 1390 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,000 B plus out of if A and A plus 1391 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000 Were options 1392 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,000 But thank you for giving it 1393 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,000 A perfect score, Mike 1394 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,000 With your shit 1395 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000 By the way, ladies and gentlemen 1396 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,000 If you haven't listened to this show before 1397 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,000 B is our highest, goes to F 1398 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,000 Because we're stupid 1399 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000 We listened to Zach 1400 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,000 And he led us astray 1401 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,000 In the beginning 1402 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,000 Anyway, so B plus is as good as it gets 1403 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,000 And that's why we gave this movie 1404 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,000 A big ol' stick in B plus 1405 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,000 Join us maybe tomorrow 1406 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,000 I don't know the schedule 1407 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000 Thanks for joining us for 8 crazy 1408 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,000 Or 9 or 10 or 11 1409 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,000 More than 8 crazy nights of Christmas 1410 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,000 I think by the end of this Andy got his 25 nights of Christmas 1411 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,000 Yeah 1412 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,000 You guys said I wouldn't get it 1413 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,000 Doing a lot of Christmas shit 1414 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,000 So we started 1415 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000 In October 1416 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000 How about this 1417 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000 So 1418 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,000 Mwa ha ho ho ho 1419 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000 And thank you 1420 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,000 For joining us for the Nightmare 1421 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000 Before Christmas episode 1422 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,000 Of Fried Rice Podcast 1423 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,000 I've been your host 1424 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000 Andy, well I'll do that at the end 1425 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,000 With me as always 1426 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000 It's Brendan, jingle bells 1427 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,000 Jingle bells 1428 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Ship me up to Boston 1429 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000 Remember everybody 1430 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000 You can always trust the news 1431 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,000 Shit I'm an idiot 1432 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Who are three as always 1433 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,000 It's Michael 1434 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,000 Dashing through the snow 1435 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,000 Da da da da da da 1436 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000 What was that I was trying to do the Halloween theme 1437 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,000 It didn't work, Larson 1438 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,000 Thanksgiving still exists 1439 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,000 And I've been your 1440 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000 Mwa ha ho ho 1441 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,000 Host, Andy Rice 1442 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000 We've been fried 1443 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,000 We've been podcast 1444 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,000 We've been eight crazy nights of Christmas 1445 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000 Or more 1446 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:21,000 It's a fried rice Christmas 1447 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,000 It's a fried rice Christmas 1448 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000 And Andy's really high 1449 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,000 He's gonna go on a tangent 1450 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,000 He's gonna go on a tangent soon 1451 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,000 The guys are standing by 1452 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,000 It's a fried rice Christmas 1453 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000 Let's all smoke some pot 1454 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:43,000 We love all of our listeners 1455 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:47,000 You all mean a lot 1456 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,000 It's a fried rice Christmas 1457 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,000 Ho ho ho 1458 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,000 Ho ho ho 1459 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,000 Ho ho ho 1460 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000 Ho ho ho