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Hey everyone, welcome to my home. It's Wednesday night, it's book club.

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It's Wednesday Night Book Club. I'm your host Andy Rice.

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With me today, I actually have people here.

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Not just those imaginary people that I talk to while I'm doing the home.

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I have Austin Farrell.

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Check me out on Quibi.

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And I have Sean Perry.

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The book we're reading today is...

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The Stranger by Albert Koume.

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Koume. When did this come out?

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1947 I believe.

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1947.

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Uh...oh, 1946.

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1946.

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Now this was recommended by Sean.

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And uh...

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Well, it wasn't what I was expecting.

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Because I had no idea.

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I had just finished a book recommended by Austin.

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Stranger in a Strange Land.

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So I had already finished a book that was written a long time ago.

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With the word stranger in it.

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So going into it, I'm just thinking, maybe this is another alien book.

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I don't know. Okay.

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It is not. This is a...

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Who done it? Well, not a who done it, but a...

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I guess just a...

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Is this guy going to go to jail?

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It's a philosophical...

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Like, uh...you know...

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The whole book is kind of like a philosophical take on like, absurdism and nihilism essentially.

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Okay.

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The basic plot point is a man on vacation.

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With some friends.

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He's not on vacation. He lives there. He's in Algeria.

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He's in what is a French colony at the time.

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In Algeria, which is a country in North Africa.

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I thought it was...

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I thought the place he went to was a vacation spot.

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Like, that one dude's house.

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A friend's beach spot, correct. But they took the bus there.

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He, like...

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They weren't gonna stay. They were just like, just one night.

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They were hanging out at the beach house.

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Like, they might have stayed the night. I don't know.

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But it just...yeah. They didn't like, leave their town or their country or anything like that.

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And his mother dies.

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Yeah. That's the beginning of the book.

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Mother dies. He's at her old folks home that he put her in.

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That he's feeling a lot of guilt about.

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Well, no. He's not feeling guilt about it.

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Even before that.

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So, like, the beginning of the book is, uh, he gets a telegram.

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And telling him that his mom died.

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And he can't even remember...

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At the beginning...the very first thing in the book is he can't even remember when he got the telegram.

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When his mom died.

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That's how indifferent...

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This guy is completely indifferent.

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He has...he doesn't have the same kind of connection to feelings that a normal person has.

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Yeah. He hasn't...

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He can't nail down how old his mom is or was when she died.

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Throughout the whole book, he doesn't know.

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Even when they're using that against him in court, he still doesn't know how old she was.

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So he's the most indifferent person.

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Which I guess...

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It wasn't...

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So is that just supposed to be a blank canvas?

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Or is that...

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That's the...the main character is essentially the tool used to portray the author's idea about his belief in absurdness.

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And how life is essentially meaningless.

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And that's essentially the whole take.

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Is, you know, this guy, he's going through life not reacting in a way that we would all normally react.

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Because his take on things...

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And throughout the whole book, he'll mention, right?

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Even in the beginning of the book when he first finds out that he has to go to the funeral home to go see his mom after she passed away.

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He's like, you know, talking about why...

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First of all, why she's even there.

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Why she doesn't live with him anymore.

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And she's like, well, I don't have the money. I can't take care of her.

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And we didn't kind of ran out of stuff to talk about.

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At first she was sad about it.

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But then she ended up being...it would have been the opposite.

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If he would have took her out, she would have been sad.

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And then he's like...

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And I didn't like going to visit her because it was just kind of annoying to go.

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The bus.

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I have to get on the bus.

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He's very indifferent about everything.

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And it's so cutthroat.

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And I relate to him way more than I'd like to admit.

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You know?

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There's some relatable aspects.

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One of the things that is like when he's with his girlfriend.

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Who is just a girl he...

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Just in the moment decides to kind of hook up with.

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And then she sort of latches on a little bit.

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They work together.

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Yeah. She asks him, do you love me?

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And he says no.

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And she's like, well, would you want to marry me?

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And he's like, sure, why not?

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Doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter.

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Tax breaks, baby.

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That's what matters.

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Tax breaks, baby.

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That's all a marriage contract really is.

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It's tax breaks and being able to make end of life decisions for somebody.

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I mean, really, marrying for love is...

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Silly.

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It kind of is.

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You could just be with somebody for love.

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Just signing a contract saying you get all my shit when I die.

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That's all.

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Yeah, you could write a piece of paper that says that.

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Which...

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Anyway.

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Yeah.

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So he...

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His mother dies. He goes there.

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They...

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He lets the funeral director do everything.

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And he doesn't step in to have any personal touch whatsoever.

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He falls asleep a lot.

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He's always tired.

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Which is a sign of depression.

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But...

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So is he depressed?

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Is that why he doesn't care?

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Or is that just...

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Is he sleeping because nothing interests him?

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So this guy...

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From my take on it is like...

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If you remember towards the end of the book,

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the reason why he murdered the dude essentially

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is because he just couldn't take the sun anymore.

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If you realize...

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If you remember going back to that scene that whole time...

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He's like having mid heat stroke basically.

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He's like, god it's fucking... It's so hot.

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He complains about being hot.

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The entire book.

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And from my perspective, it's like this dude

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only wants... He only cares about...

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What? Hanging out with his girlfriend.

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Fucking smoking cigarettes.

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Chilling on his balcony. Going to the beach.

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That's all he cares about. Even after his mom has died.

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Even after he has responsibilities and obligations

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that he needs to be doing.

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What does he do after the whole funeral home thing?

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He goes back to his house.

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He gets back and the first thing he says is like...

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Sunday was... Or after he goes back...

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He goes back to his house, chills, smokes cigarettes on the balcony like I said.

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And he says like... Sunday was over.

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That mom was buried now.

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And that I was going back to work and that nothing really had changed.

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Yeah.

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Nothing had changed.

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He got what? A day off of work?

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Yeah. And he felt guilty about that.

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Essentially. And he's the name of the...

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He's like, oh wait no. I had nothing to feel guilty.

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But he had to remind himself that... You know what I mean?

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What does he do for a living again?

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I don't remember it specifying exactly.

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Sounds like he works at our fucking old job.

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He has to tell my mom fucking died.

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I have to go to her funeral and his boss is all pissed off about it.

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Right. Right.

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Yeah. I thought that was very interesting.

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You know.

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And I love the way he talked about

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wandering around his apartment.

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Because he wakes up that next morning

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and he's like...

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Oh yeah. I remember why my boss was annoyed.

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It's like... You know it's Saturday.

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And naturally that means I'm going to get four days off.

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I was already going to have these days off anyway.

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You know what I mean? He's going through these internal battles.

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Because he just doesn't understand why he should feel the way they're expecting him to be.

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You know. Yeah.

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It's very interesting. I don't know.

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Does this book have...

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I'm mixing up the books.

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I...

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Does one of them... Does somebody tell him a story?

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Does the host at the Beach House tell him a story about somebody else?

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I'm not missing...

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I'm not thinking of anything right now.

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Or does Marcos... Marcos tell him

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a story about something

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happening to somebody else?

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Marcos. Is that not his buddy's name?

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No. I think you're...

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There's a couple of M's. The French...

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M's that I think you're...

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I mean I heard it on audiobooks.

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So...

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And I don't know which translation you're reading.

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Oh. Mason.

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You mean? Mason? Or Marcon?

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Yes. Yes.

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I'm reading it as Mason in my head.

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Or Marcon or whatever. It's the Beach House owner.

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Oh. I thought he was the friend of the Beach House owner.

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The one that brings him to...

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Raymond. Raymond is the neighbor.

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Okay. Does any of them tell him a story?

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At all? Like a parable?

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Sort of deal? I can't remember at the moment.

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I'm missing it. I wrote it down somewhere.

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It doesn't matter.

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It's important.

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Okay. Yeah.

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So he...

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So Andy, what was your favorite thing about the book?

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I'm curious about that.

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What did you enjoy about it? Did you like it? Did you even like the book?

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We're gonna get...

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I...

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It was...

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It was pretty...

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Almost pointless.

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Like it was pointless. It was a pointless book.

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Nothing got solved.

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Nothing got figured out. Nothing happened.

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Like he killed someone.

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He got the death penalty. That's it.

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And...

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But my favorite part was the...

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When the lawyer gets involved.

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Right when he gets his public defender.

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And the public defender is like a young go-getter who like actually

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wants to give a shit.

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And he goes and he tries.

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And the trial... You just have...

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The one guy just...

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The prosecutor just...

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Going after his personality.

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He didn't really have any facts of the case.

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I mean, well, because the case was already done.

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So it's just like...

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Attacking him for the death penalty, right?

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Trying to get him to the death penalty.

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And the battle was good.

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I liked him in the courtroom.

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Just responding when he had to.

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And not adding anything.

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Which was like a good note for them.

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Because every time he opened his mouth, he sounded like a fucking serial killer.

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Uh...

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Yeah.

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And at the end, it kind of gives off a vibe of like...

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Did he get the death penalty?

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Or didn't he?

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100% did.

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But it's got some... The end words were a little like...

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Where he really kind of expels his philosophy.

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Just straight up.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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I'm not one of those guys where I relate to...

267
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Nothing matters.

268
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But I will say this is a French book, right?

269
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Yeah.

270
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The guy who wrote it is French.

271
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The only other book I've written from a French author that's been translated to English was Perfume.

272
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Have you read that one?

273
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I've heard of it but I've not read it.

274
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That gives me the same kind of vibes.

275
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Where it's this...

276
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The main character is so indifferent.

277
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But...

278
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He has extenuating circumstances.

279
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He's just disgusting.

280
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And no one really wants to be around him.

281
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Like he's born... His mom's a prostitute.

282
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And she gives birth to him in a fish market.

283
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And then leaves him there.

284
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Because she's like... Eww.

285
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Like she picks him up and there's no maternal love.

286
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And just leaves him there.

287
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That's a good book.

288
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But what do you think, Austin?

289
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I was enjoying it.

290
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Like in the beginning.

291
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Not as much as the second half.

292
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Because it just got so interesting in the second half.

293
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You're just like...

294
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Alright, this guy, he went to his mom's funeral.

295
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He doesn't really care.

296
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He's hanging out with this chick.

297
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Goes to a movie with her.

298
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Grabs her tits. Takes her home.

299
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He goes to a comedy movie with her.

300
00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,200
Which is important. He goes to a comedy movie with her.

301
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And he doesn't understand why people are laughing.

302
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And that's brought up in court.

303
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Which is interesting.

304
00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,200
He went and saw a comedy movie after your mom died?

305
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That's another thing.

306
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And then he's dealing with these other people

307
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that he doesn't really care about.

308
00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,200
The guy with his dog.

309
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And his dog is all mangy like he is.

310
00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,200
And he beats the dog and calls it a stinking rotten bastard.

311
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Over and over again.

312
00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,200
The other neighbor that smacks his girlfriend around.

313
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The other neighbor that smacks his girlfriend around.

314
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He just thinks it's amusing neighbor stuff.

315
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He just sees that.

316
00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200
He thinks it's an amusing little cycle.

317
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The dog owner and the dog.

318
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And when the dog runs away, he doesn't care.

319
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He just thinks it's an amusing little cycle.

320
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And he's not going to be able to beat it in one way or another.

321
00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,200
It doesn't mean anything to him.

322
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He doesn't even think the beating is wrong.

323
00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,200
He just thinks it is what it is.

324
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Which I think is...

325
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,200
We don't really get into politics too much on the show.

326
00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,200
But is that kind of the libertarian view?

327
00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,200
Or is it just like...

328
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I don't know.

329
00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,200
Because I heard some guy on a libertarian thing.

330
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Like they just had the conference recently

331
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that Trump spoke at.

332
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And it was covered by a lot of people.

333
00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,200
Because he made some promises to free the guy that created Silk Road.

334
00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,200
You know that black...

335
00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,200
The guy who made the dark web Silk Road thing.

336
00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,200
Which led to people trying...

337
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,200
Buying drugs and hiring hitmen.

338
00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,200
Like it was a real bad...

339
00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,200
Like it was a bad dark web stuff.

340
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,200
He made one of the worst ones.

341
00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,200
They arrested him.

342
00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,200
And the libertarians at their conference,

343
00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,200
a lot of them were like,

344
00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200
free this dude.

345
00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,200
Literally like free hat from that South Park movie.

346
00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,200
Like, they were like,

347
00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,200
free hat from that South Park movie.

348
00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,200
You've seen that.

349
00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,200
But anyway,

350
00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,200
he promised to free him.

351
00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,200
But that's not the point.

352
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,200
The point is the guy I saw,

353
00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,200
he was like,

354
00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,200
we don't want government to deal with fucking anything.

355
00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,200
Like, we want way less government.

356
00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,200
Way less whatever.

357
00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,200
Just let us do our shit.

358
00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,200
And it's like,

359
00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,200
so what about gun rights?

360
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,200
We want people to have nuclear rights.

361
00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,840
to have nuclear weapons if we can build them.

362
00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,080
Like just an everyday person at home having a nuke.

363
00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,200
Which kind of, it's different,

364
00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:20,200
but in this book it feels like this dude,

365
00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,460
his viewpoint is just let people do

366
00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:24,680
whatever the fuck they want.

367
00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:26,580
It means nothing to him.

368
00:13:26,580 --> 00:13:28,160
Let him live his life.

369
00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,080
If he dies, he dies.

370
00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:30,320
If someone dies, they die.

371
00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:31,840
It doesn't fucking matter.

372
00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,680
Do your own shit.

373
00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:36,000
I did mention that he doesn't like cops at one point

374
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000
when the dude's beating the girl or whatever.

375
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,120
The girl's like, hey, call the cops.

376
00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:39,960
He's like, I don't like cops.

377
00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:40,960
Yeah. Anyway.

378
00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,680
Also, this is like the second thing we've done in a row

379
00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,080
that features animal abuse.

380
00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,080
We just did the spawn episode

381
00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,280
and now it's this guy beating his dog.

382
00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,640
But that was like such a,

383
00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,680
it's like a really sad story within a story

384
00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,920
is that this guy hates this dog all the time,

385
00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,080
but then it goes into detail how he puts the cream

386
00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,480
on the dog every day.

387
00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,560
And ever since like his wife died,

388
00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:05,120
and now it's just him and the dog.

389
00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,880
And then he goes back to his room and he's like,

390
00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,560
I could hear him through the walls crying

391
00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:11,880
about his lost dog that he ate so much.

392
00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,160
And I was just like, oh my God,

393
00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,560
that like hit me really hard.

394
00:14:15,560 --> 00:14:18,480
So it feels, yeah, that's a good story within a story.

395
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,880
Yeah, it definitely is.

396
00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,720
You could follow that.

397
00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,560
If he just did a book about that guy, right?

398
00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,120
Just following his story, it would be sad and tragic

399
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,680
and even shorter stories until he gets one sentence.

400
00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,360
And then the other roommate, or roommate,

401
00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,360
the other apartment, whatever guy.

402
00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,520
The neighbor. Neighbor.

403
00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:38,760
What are you calling him, Ruben?

404
00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,160
Raymond. Raymond.

405
00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,360
Raymond. Raymond.

406
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,000
Yeah. And everything in this,

407
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,400
in this little bizarro world where,

408
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,880
like you were saying before we started this,

409
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,840
that he's like, oh, I'm just gonna say she was cheating.

410
00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,000
And then they'll let me off the hook for smacking her one.

411
00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,800
And he literally, he's like, he's like, well, yeah.

412
00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,760
I mean, I would beat her, but, and she would scream,

413
00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,520
but not like, come on, I was just doing the,

414
00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,840
I was doing the 1946 beat down, you know?

415
00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,600
Like this is, this is what we do.

416
00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,440
Exactly.

417
00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,560
And then the cops were like, okay, right on.

418
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:11,840
Back to your. Yeah.

419
00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,560
And then that also reflects later in the courtroom

420
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,200
where they're like, he, of course he murdered that guy.

421
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,040
He got pussy after his mom died.

422
00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,320
Like it just, the logic in this world.

423
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,160
You saw a comedy show.

424
00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,480
You don't know how old your mom is.

425
00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,480
He helped write the letter for Raymond.

426
00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,800
He helped write the letter to send to the girl.

427
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,320
That didn't help his case at all.

428
00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,560
I feel like that would have been the more damning evidence.

429
00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,120
He didn't care that his mom died.

430
00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,440
But see, Raymond, his girlfriend cheated on him.

431
00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,040
And so he beat her with really bad.

432
00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:43,880
Yep.

433
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,000
The cops got called.

434
00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,000
And when he, when he had court, our boy shows up.

435
00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,120
Yep. And testifies.

436
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,880
Testifies and says that she was cheating

437
00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,040
and that's all they needed to let them off the case.

438
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,440
Oh, she cheated this fucking bitch cheated on you.

439
00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,960
Like she was, oh, well then fuck her.

440
00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,360
You know, like, yeah, you're going to prison, bitch.

441
00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,200
Yeah, I don't know if that happened.

442
00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,040
Yeah, no, I don't know.

443
00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,280
Yeah, but it's.

444
00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,120
I don't know.

445
00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,360
How did the Arabs get involved?

446
00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,400
Who did he fuck that was the Arab sister?

447
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,400
Oh shit.

448
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,240
Okay.

449
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,480
That girl he beat her brother is the one, is the Arabs.

450
00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:20,320
Arabs, yeah.

451
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,440
He's the leader of the Arabs.

452
00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,280
Essentially.

453
00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,120
He's one of the Arabs.

454
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:23,940
He's an Arab.

455
00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:24,780
Yeah.

456
00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:29,680
Yeah, he, they keep kind of stalking Raymond

457
00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,240
and because he's with, that's why he buddies up with our guy.

458
00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,080
Essentially.

459
00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,900
Yeah.

460
00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:36,740
Yeah.

461
00:16:36,740 --> 00:16:37,560
He's like, Hey, you're my buddy.

462
00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,400
You're my pal.

463
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,040
And they, he's like, okay, whatever.

464
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,200
I guess you're my pal.

465
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,040
Fine.

466
00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,480
And they, now he's got protection a little bit.

467
00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,160
The Arabs don't mess with them.

468
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,840
They find him at that beach house.

469
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:48,680
They track him there.

470
00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:49,640
Yeah.

471
00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,720
There's a little bit of a kerfuffle down at the beach.

472
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,480
Everyone kind of walks away from it.

473
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,820
Because Raymond gets cut.

474
00:16:55,820 --> 00:16:56,720
Raymond gets cut.

475
00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,560
Okay.

476
00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,760
He gets sliced by his face.

477
00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,960
His eyelid and his arm.

478
00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,400
But his gun, but a gun is pulled, right?

479
00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,240
No.

480
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,080
Before, that's before.

481
00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,920
So what happens is when they get to the beach,

482
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,480
they come across the Arabs, they realize,

483
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,880
oh shit, they followed us.

484
00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:10,720
All right.

485
00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,240
And at this point, Raymond pulls out his gun and he's like,

486
00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:15,800
should I, should I smoke them, whatever?

487
00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,120
And then out.

488
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:18,560
Don't they find them just chilling?

489
00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,400
Yes.

490
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,520
They, they go, oh shit, they found us.

491
00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,020
So they go down and they find these guys just laying down.

492
00:17:23,020 --> 00:17:23,860
Yes.

493
00:17:23,860 --> 00:17:24,700
And they walk out.

494
00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:25,800
But they walk up on them, right?

495
00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,640
With the gun.

496
00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,460
Gun's not pulled yet.

497
00:17:27,460 --> 00:17:28,300
This is what happened.

498
00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:30,520
So Raymond pulls his gun out and he's like,

499
00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,340
should I smoke them?

500
00:17:31,340 --> 00:17:32,480
Should I smoke them, whatever?

501
00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,480
And Al, or Marisol is like,

502
00:17:37,940 --> 00:17:38,840
give me the gun.

503
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,920
If he, if you guys, you know, go through shit,

504
00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:42,760
I'll smoke them.

505
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,000
He has to come at you with the knife

506
00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:44,840
in order for you to shoot him.

507
00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:45,680
Exactly.

508
00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,880
So if he pulls it on you while you're fighting him,

509
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,720
I'll shoot him.

510
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,540
Exactly. Thank you.

511
00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:50,800
And then, so that the fight happens, whatever,

512
00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,160
whole thing, he ends up not shooting them.

513
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,880
They end up walking away from that.

514
00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,920
And when he, and they get back to the house, they go up.

515
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,960
He tells the girls, whatever, that what happened.

516
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560
He didn't like talking to the girls about what happened.

517
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,600
He just didn't like how they were reacting.

518
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,720
Didn't want to deal with all that.

519
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,720
They went to the hospital or went wherever they went

520
00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,560
to get fixed.

521
00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:10,840
Yeah, the doctor up the road.

522
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,680
Yeah, that's, thank you.

523
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,880
And then, so then he went back down to the beach

524
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,080
to get away from the girls, got all hot and sweaty,

525
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,080
got all like fucking delirious and annoyed.

526
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,040
Tried to go back to the house.

527
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,680
He was like, nah, I'm not going to do that.

528
00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,160
Went back to the walking on the beach

529
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,720
because he didn't want to go up talking to the girls.

530
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,080
And then that's when he came across the other ARAB guy

531
00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:27,920
by himself.

532
00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,040
He wanted to go back to a certain rock or something.

533
00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:29,880
You're right, yes.

534
00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,000
And there was like a shady spot on the rock.

535
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,840
You're right.

536
00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:33,840
And then that's where the Arab was.

537
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,240
And then it's a little cloudy to me how it got to,

538
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,640
the Arabs started approaching him or he walked up.

539
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:40,720
So yeah, exactly.

540
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,960
He walked up, he couldn't,

541
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,440
he wanted to get out of the sun so bad,

542
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,080
but the Arab guy was under the shade

543
00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,620
and he wanted to get to the shade.

544
00:18:46,620 --> 00:18:48,040
And he sat there and thought about it.

545
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,720
He's like, should I go back or should I go to the shade?

546
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,800
He's like, I really want to go to the shade.

547
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,160
And so he walked forward a little bit.

548
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:54,680
The Arab guy pulled out the knife

549
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,400
because he knows who he is, he recognizes him.

550
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,240
And that's when he, because he pulled out the knife,

551
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,440
that's when he grabs his gun and he's got it in his pocket.

552
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,680
I can't remember if he pulled it out yet.

553
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,460
He at least has it in his hand.

554
00:19:05,460 --> 00:19:07,460
And then he gets closer and closer,

555
00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:10,760
takes one more step and then the reflection of the blade

556
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,160
hits him in the face.

557
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,360
And the way it's written in there is like it cuts him,

558
00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:17,600
the reflection cuts his face like a blade or whatever.

559
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,400
And then he just gets annoyed of it

560
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,040
and squeezes and shoots him.

561
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,680
And then he waits, stares at him for a second,

562
00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,320
shoot them four more times, which we never find out why.

563
00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,040
Well, I think it's, yeah, we never do,

564
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,880
he never explains it.

565
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,720
He never explains it.

566
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,120
We never get a reason for that.

567
00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:37,080
I wonder why, I mean, I wonder what would drive,

568
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,520
like I think, is it the not carrying?

569
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,480
You know what it is to me, it doesn't matter.

570
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,000
That's the, that's his philosophy.

571
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,600
So it's like one shot, well, four more doesn't matter.

572
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:47,440
It doesn't matter.

573
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,040
You guys remember the part the guy asked him,

574
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,400
I can't remember, I think it was the guy interrogating him.

575
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,120
He was like, why did you shoot a lifeless body four times?

576
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,880
And then he, I can't remember how he answered,

577
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,640
but like that question is what stick out to me.

578
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,200
It's like the point of that question

579
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,960
is the pointlessness of it, right?

580
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,000
It's explained the point of why,

581
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,960
cause he can't, this guy, the cop, whatever it is,

582
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,280
he can't understand because this guy is so indifferent.

583
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,960
You know, he's like, why would you shoot a lifeless body?

584
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120
This guy's like, your guess is a good mine.

585
00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:13,960
You know what I mean?

586
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,240
I don't know.

587
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,080
Like it's-

588
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:16,900
It is what it is.

589
00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:17,740
Yeah.

590
00:20:17,740 --> 00:20:18,580
I shot him four times.

591
00:20:18,580 --> 00:20:19,420
That's what, that's what,

592
00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:22,120
that's what it speaks so highly to me about the book.

593
00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,640
It's like the reason why I relate with it

594
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,560
is because I do, I, I feel so,

595
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,160
this is obviously a much exaggerated version, you know,

596
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,280
I don't, but it's just like,

597
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,860
there's a lot of things that in my life

598
00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:34,720
where things will happen and I can tell

599
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,320
that the people around me are surprised

600
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,760
that I'm either underreacting or overreacting,

601
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,720
whatever it may be.

602
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,360
And so I relate with that concept of this book so much.

603
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,400
And I, and I've dealt with weird tragedies in my life,

604
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,640
my mom hasn't passed away,

605
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,040
but I've dealt with other things, you know,

606
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,280
Sierra and I have been dating for a long time, you know,

607
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,520
her family, whatever.

608
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,640
And I've like experienced things where I'm like,

609
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,200
very surprised at the way I react.

610
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:02,720
Like I would have, if you would have told me beforehand,

611
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:03,960
like, oh, I'd be a blubbering mess.

612
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,240
But then the thing, the thing happens and I'm like,

613
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,920
very stoked.

614
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,440
But I'm, it doesn't mean I don't care.

615
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,280
You know what I mean?

616
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,100
Like-

617
00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:11,940
You're not an outwards reactor.

618
00:21:11,940 --> 00:21:15,520
Yeah, I can be, but my outwards reaction is when I'm angry.

619
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,360
You've seen it here tonight,

620
00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:19,240
when we have our little scuffles, you know?

621
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,000
Well, I don't, that's not real anger, I hope.

622
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,080
No, no, no, absolutely not.

623
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:22,920
Let me just say that's an example.

624
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,720
But the one time I've seen real anger is

625
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,360
we were doing a standup show and you,

626
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:31,560
this guy heckled you and he made you really upset.

627
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,240
And then afterwards you were just wound up and you're like,

628
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,520
where's this motherfucker?

629
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520
The guy left, but you went outside to go find him.

630
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,420
And then I sent people after you because I was worried,

631
00:21:43,420 --> 00:21:44,680
but he had already left.

632
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,080
Yeah.

633
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,920
Yeah.

634
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,760
You know, I had an anger problem.

635
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,580
That was anger.

636
00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:49,720
You were fucking pissed.

637
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,560
I have an anger problem.

638
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,400
That guy sucked.

639
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,240
Yeah, he did.

640
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,720
I can relate to the being stoic around tragedy

641
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,560
kind of thing.

642
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,400
It was like, I was at work when my grandpa died.

643
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,600
He had been in the hospital for like a week or so.

644
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,480
And I've already visited like a few times when I could.

645
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,800
I was working and then I get the call that he's dead

646
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,880
and they're like, you need to come down here.

647
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,760
And I was like, okay, I guess people want me there.

648
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,360
It'll make, you know, it's not gonna help him.

649
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:14,200
Right.

650
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,280
And they're like, do you want to go see him?

651
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,920
And I'm like, not really.

652
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,760
Right.

653
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,640
But they're just like going there and see him.

654
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,080
And then I've just had to, everyone else is crying.

655
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,920
I'm just like looking at this dead guy.

656
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,240
I still open everything.

657
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,160
It's like he's dead now.

658
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,040
He's not there anymore.

659
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,920
I don't know why we're doing this.

660
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,640
And I had to watch him get like bagged up and everything.

661
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,480
Yeah.

662
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,300
And everyone else.

663
00:22:34,300 --> 00:22:35,140
And I'm just like, I'm not, you know,

664
00:22:35,140 --> 00:22:36,520
people grieve in different ways, but.

665
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,360
Exactly.

666
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:38,180
No, I totally get it.

667
00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:39,400
I, yeah, that's crazy, dude.

668
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,560
And that's why I love the last sentence

669
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,160
of this fucking book.

670
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,000
I'm sure.

671
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,240
I don't know if that's how I worded it,

672
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,040
but I really enjoy it.

673
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:48,880
When he,

674
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:51,960
basically,

675
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,440
yeah, he just says,

676
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,000
for everything to be consummated,

677
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,440
for me to feel less alone,

678
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,040
I had only to wish that there'd be a large crowd

679
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,760
of spectators the day of my execution.

680
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,200
And if they greet me with the cries of hate,

681
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000
which like, he just wants these people,

682
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,240
like he at the end of the day,

683
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,920
like he realized what he's done.

684
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,080
He, before I even finished that,

685
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,200
there's a meme I sent to Austin,

686
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,320
which I love, is basically like,

687
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,120
this section of the book is like,

688
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,160
nah, nothing matters, my guy don't give a fuck.

689
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,040
And then right here, he's like,

690
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,560
oh, you're starting to feel something, huh?

691
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,400
Because it's.

692
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,760
The very last part.

693
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:28,600
Exactly.

694
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,420
Right before he's supposed to die,

695
00:23:29,420 --> 00:23:31,640
when he's having that exchange with the priest,

696
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,880
or the, when he's, he gets angry with him,

697
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,700
he yells at him.

698
00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:35,540
Yes.

699
00:23:35,540 --> 00:23:36,760
That's the only sign of emotion

700
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,880
that we see from the whole time

701
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760
is when he's yelling at the priest.

702
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280
I think it's another sign of like,

703
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,400
was it, was it a Catholic?

704
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,240
It's Catholic priests?

705
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,080
Yeah, I believe so.

706
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
And it's just how that religion tries to like,

707
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320
seep into this story of like,

708
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,780
how nothing matters, absurdity, nothing matters.

709
00:23:52,780 --> 00:23:55,560
And then they just keep trying to get you to,

710
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,120
he keeps, the Catholic priest,

711
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,520
he just keeps coming back trying to get him.

712
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560
And he finally like, fucking explodes on him,

713
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,320
like just, I don't agree with this shit.

714
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,160
Yeah.

715
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,120
It doesn't fit for me.

716
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,640
Fucking knock it off, go away.

717
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,480
Yeah.

718
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,320
And it made him cry.

719
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,160
Yeah.

720
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,440
And then there's a book called Things Fall Apart,

721
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,640
and I think it's written by someone in Africa,

722
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,840
and it was translated.

723
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,560
And the, it's Africa,

724
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,240
and it's like tribes of African people,

725
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,220
and they're dealing their own inner politics,

726
00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:26,480
they have their own thing going on,

727
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,480
and then white missionaries come in

728
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,040
trying to impose their religion on the tribal people.

729
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,280
And it starts working.

730
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,320
And the main guy is losing control.

731
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,680
He's the chief of his tribe,

732
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,680
and he's losing control of it.

733
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,160
His son gets, blah, blah, blah.

734
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,080
And it comes to a point where he very dramatically,

735
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,080
like walks out in the middle of a public sermon

736
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,360
or that the missionaries were going,

737
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,160
he just chops off one of their fucking heads

738
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,120
with a machete, and then runs off,

739
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,560
and they hunt him down.

740
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,400
And,

741
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,520
there's a reason for me bringing that up.

742
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760
It's not that he didn't care, he cared too much,

743
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840
but it's, if we're just talking,

744
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,840
it's an allegory for religion being where it's not wanted,

745
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,800
that last scene.

746
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000
If like every part is something to dissect,

747
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,160
if that last part is this guy's indifference

748
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,280
to what's going on around him,

749
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,660
and religion trying to make something out of nothing,

750
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,720
you know, like he just doesn't care,

751
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,600
but this religion guy wants to keep pushing

752
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,000
and pushing and pushing,

753
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:32,840
get something out of him,

754
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,680
which he did, mission accomplished,

755
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,920
but it wasn't the right thing to get.

756
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,760
I don't know.

757
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,960
Yeah, I agree.

758
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,000
And this is cool for me,

759
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,160
I mentioned earlier, like this is like,

760
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800
I just started kind of really reading, you know?

761
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,620
I wanted to get into that.

762
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:50,560
So, okay, when, how many books prior to this

763
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520
do you think you've done recreationally?

764
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,160
Recreationally, I probably read, prior to this,

765
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,040
I probably read maybe two books on my own time.

766
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:02,880
Okay.

767
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,560
And there were two books for the giver

768
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,640
by Lois Lorry.

769
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,480
Cool.

770
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,320
Amazing book.

771
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,360
And As They Lie Dying by William Faulkner,

772
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:10,560
also an amazing book.

773
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:11,680
I haven't read the second one.

774
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,360
Giving, the giver's good.

775
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,200
Great book.

776
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,520
That's the, boy gets access to all the previous knowledge.

777
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,440
Okay.

778
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,040
Old guy touches his back.

779
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Oh, also I forgot, three,

780
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,180
I read very similar plot to Anne Ryan,

781
00:26:26,180 --> 00:26:27,120
I mean to the giver,

782
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,800
which I think he might be thinking of as Anne Ryan,

783
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,480
the anthem, which is that's where he gets access

784
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,160
to all the previous information or the previous world.

785
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,920
Wait, the giver is, isn't that his?

786
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,920
Oh wait, it's the same thing.

787
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,760
The giver, okay, if I'm thinking of the movie.

788
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,160
The giver and the receiver.

789
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,120
Yeah, there's the receiver.

790
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,760
There's the, the movie at least, it's Harrison Ford, right?

791
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,440
No, Jeff Bridges.

792
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,360
No, you're right, you're right.

793
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,200
It's the same plot.

794
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840
Well, I was also mixing up with Ender's Game a little bit.

795
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,160
No, you're right, it's just the same plot.

796
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,400
It's just a very similar plot.

797
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,840
The anthem is very, very similar.

798
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,040
Have you read Ender's Game?

799
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,480
No.

800
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,400
It's a little tough of a recommendation

801
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,160
because that guy's a wacko, the guy that wrote it.

802
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,680
I feel like he's a super religious nut job,

803
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,640
like real hateful dude, but holy shit,

804
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,080
is that one of the better young adult sci-fi books

805
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:14,920
of its time?

806
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,400
Right.

807
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,240
So, okay, so you seem to pick big thinker books.

808
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,400
You're not really into the casual fiction.

809
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,840
You're not into like a Stephen King or a Dean Koons

810
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:26,680
or anything.

811
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,520
I haven't had any interest in those yet.

812
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,960
I'm not that big on Stephen King stuff.

813
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,200
I like The Shining.

814
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Well, okay, we can't judge him off his movies.

815
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,840
No, yeah, no, absolutely not.

816
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,440
That's the only reason why when I say I'm not big on it,

817
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:41,840
I just mean like it has, it's not something

818
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,120
that has ever interested me to like,

819
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:46,800
it's like one of those things that just for whatever reason,

820
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,000
I've grouped it together with like,

821
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,240
I guess more or less mom books or like things like that.

822
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,160
So 100% I do understand that.

823
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,440
I did that too for the longest time.

824
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960
I held on for dear life that my favorite author of all time

825
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,400
was Robert McCammon because no one had ever heard of him

826
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,800
and he does write my favorite books that I've ever read.

827
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,800
Okay, they're amazing.

828
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Swan Song, Wolf Sour, if you know, you know,

829
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,720
like he's a very good detailed author.

830
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560
Like every scene he paints, you're there.

831
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,760
You know, everything about it.

832
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,080
Like you're sitting there.

833
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,400
He has one called Wolf Sour,

834
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,520
which is about an American or a British spy

835
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,960
who's a werewolf and he could change into a giant wolf

836
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,240
at any time.

837
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,840
So it's not like moon related.

838
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,840
And he uses that ability to fight Hitler, you know,

839
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,200
to a degree, you know, it's not like,

840
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,680
it's not like Hitler versus a wolf.

841
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,040
It doesn't get that cartoonish,

842
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,480
but it's like him doing shit where it helps

843
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,520
that he can turn into a fucking wolf and escape, you know,

844
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,040
but one of the best, just one of the best books ever.

845
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,640
But I always thought of Stephen King is like,

846
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,760
you're right, like mom books.

847
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,880
Like my mom liked a lot of Stephen King.

848
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,960
And I was just like, ah, okay.

849
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,720
I've seen the movies, whatever.

850
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Then I started reading them and honestly,

851
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,600
he's one of the best authors I've ever read.

852
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,040
There's a reason why he's so big, you know?

853
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Yeah, I've made it my mission to read every Stephen King.

854
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,400
And now I've done, I think I'm about 90% through

855
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,600
out of his 70 something books, right?

856
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,440
Because there's a lot.

857
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Yeah, I don't even know.

858
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,560
I've also read, like, I just read the one

859
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,160
that came out two weeks ago, right?

860
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,680
The, his short story collection, which was phenomenal.

861
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,360
And a little bit of a spoiler,

862
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920
but it has a secret sequel to Kujo in it.

863
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,640
So you're a fan of Kujo.

864
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,720
I've heard a lot of people talk about The Stand.

865
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240
The Stand is, yeah, there's a,

866
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,040
you gotta get the director's cut book, the author's cut.

867
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,520
That sounds funny.

868
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,200
Well, there is, it's like, it's,

869
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,160
they had an abridged version.

870
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,240
You have to get the unabridged

871
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,720
because there's just a lot more stuff.

872
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000
I'm, I think that they, I read, I read the unabridged

873
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,440
and I think there's an entire, probably 20, 30 pages

874
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,880
dedicated to the dying, like, fever dreams

875
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,600
of someone going through the Captain Tripp's virus.

876
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,800
And he's thinking about this young boy

877
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,560
that he was in love with when he was a young man

878
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,200
and having like all these sexual fantasies

879
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,280
about this, about this kid.

880
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840
I bet you they cut that just for sensibility sake.

881
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,440
And then Stephen King's like,

882
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,360
no, I put that in there for fucking reason.

883
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,640
And so now you, when you buy it,

884
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,560
you get the full final cut of it.

885
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,800
But are you familiar with Cormac McCarthy?

886
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,760
You ever read any of his books?

887
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,920
No, I haven't.

888
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:23,920
I think you'd have really enjoyed it.

889
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,320
I, the first book I read,

890
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,280
I think it's a great place to start,

891
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,440
it's called The Road.

892
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,680
It's a really good fucking book.

893
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Is that about a boy and his father

894
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,440
in post-apocalyptic time?

895
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,960
Okay, so there's a movie that I wanted to watch

896
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,120
that I haven't.

897
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,200
But that's something I would watch,

898
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,080
I would listen to or read.

899
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,080
I highly recommend it.

900
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,600
I say don't even bother with the movie, in my opinion.

901
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,360
I've read, I've read and watched both, you know.

902
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:47,720
That's tough though, because a lot,

903
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,840
I could say that for almost every book to movie adaptation.

904
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,480
Sure, and I have no,

905
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480
I have no other expertise in that other than

906
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,440
this particular book and The Giver,

907
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520
which I really loved both movie and book.

908
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Okay.

909
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,480
You know, when I read this,

910
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,240
I read this for the story straight all the way through.

911
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
I didn't get into the philosophical part,

912
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760
like towards the end.

913
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,520
Like The Priest was one thing.

914
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Yeah.

915
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,920
Another thing was that he talks about Maria?

916
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,760
Yeah.

917
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Not writing him anymore.

918
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,760
And he's just kinda like,

919
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,040
yeah, she stopped writing me.

920
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:21,860
Maybe she's dead.

921
00:31:21,860 --> 00:31:22,800
Oh well, anyways.

922
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,240
I'm gonna stare at this wall every minute detail of this wall.

923
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,800
Didn't even think of actual her,

924
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,920
just thought of an idea of a woman, right?

925
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,480
When he was talking about that.

926
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,320
Yeah.

927
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,140
That's real though.

928
00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:35,080
I mean, like how many times have you fallen in love

929
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000
with the idea of a woman?

930
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,200
Right, that's very funny.

931
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,040
I have.

932
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,860
Also about two years has passed

933
00:31:39,860 --> 00:31:40,800
since he shot the guy, right?

934
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,640
Or one year?

935
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,480
It was like 11 months or something like that.

936
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,320
Yeah.

937
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,840
About a year, I guess.

938
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,080
But yeah, dude, I don't know.

939
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,640
I think that's really sick.

940
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Like how many books, like you've been reading a long time.

941
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,160
Like you've been reading like your whole life

942
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,240
or whatever, like been into reading.

943
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,040
Yeah, like I mentioned in the podcast

944
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,920
that we filmed earlier, recorded earlier.

945
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,960
But yeah, when I, I would do,

946
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,480
I would have an in-school suspension

947
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200
just so that I could sit back and read a book.

948
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,600
You know, I would, yeah, all the time.

949
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,160
My buddies, and what helped was my best friends growing up,

950
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,740
at least one of them, Michael, and to a lesser degree, Andrew.

951
00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:14,880
They were big readers.

952
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,720
That's cool.

953
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,240
And they recommended stuff.

954
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Like I wouldn't have found out about Robert McCammon

955
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,160
if it wasn't for Michael.

956
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,000
And,

957
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640
God, those are phenomenal.

958
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,000
I mean, if you want like a good apocalyptic

959
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,440
or post-apocalyptic book, go with the Swan Song,

960
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,640
which is post-nuclear.

961
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,120
And it's just so good.

962
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:39,960
Too much to get into.

963
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,280
They might make a, finally, for the first time ever

964
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,280
of all of his properties over the last 30, 40 years

965
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,840
he's been writing, they're finally doing

966
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,760
a, they're talking about doing a series of Swan Song,

967
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,520
his post-apocalyptic one, which, cool.

968
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,520
That's really cool.

969
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,940
But I like, if you're gonna catch me with a book,

970
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:03,920
it's most likely gonna be either Stephen King

971
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,280
or I love Jim Butcher.

972
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,880
You heard of Neil Gaiman?

973
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Oh yeah.

974
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,680
You heard Neil Gaiman, guy?

975
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,060
Yeah. American Gods, I read that.

976
00:33:12,060 --> 00:33:14,320
And that was an interesting book.

977
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:15,880
Have you read that or heard of that?

978
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,720
I've heard of it.

979
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,200
I only read one of his books.

980
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,480
I only read it because the girl I work with

981
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,320
recommended it to me. Never will.

982
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,400
Because she saw that I read, no, it's Anantiboy.

983
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,240
Anantiboy.

984
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,320
The guy, Charlie, the main character of that book

985
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,760
makes an appearance in American Gods.

986
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,800
Well, Anantzi, right?

987
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,680
The spider god?

988
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Yes.

989
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,340
The spider trickster god?

990
00:33:32,340 --> 00:33:33,180
Yeah. Okay.

991
00:33:33,180 --> 00:33:34,480
That whole book is about the spider trickster god

992
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,320
or whatever.

993
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,160
You might really like it.

994
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,000
I might, yeah.

995
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,320
I enjoyed it for someone who doesn't-

996
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,320
That might even be a seek, no, it's Anantzi in what?

997
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920
It's Anantzi, it's not just Anantzi, it's Anantzi-

998
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Called Anantiboy.

999
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,000
That's Anantzi, there we go.

1000
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Yeah, that's the name of it.

1001
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,360
It's the brothers, it's the two sons of the spider god.

1002
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Okay, so it's a sequel then to American Gods, or no?

1003
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,040
It's not technically a sequel, no.

1004
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:53,880
It just happened.

1005
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:54,720
Came on after that.

1006
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,680
It just, I don't know the order.

1007
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
I read up about it when she first gave it to me

1008
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,080
because I was really curious what it was

1009
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,720
because I didn't know if I wanted to read it or not,

1010
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,040
but I read it because I wanted to be polite

1011
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,400
and I'm glad I did, it was an experience.

1012
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,880
I'm not a fantasy book type of guy,

1013
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,640
it was really something that I had to step out

1014
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
of my realm for and I powered through it

1015
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,080
because like I said, it's not something that I was into,

1016
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,400
but I'm glad I stepped out of my realm for it.

1017
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,960
Okay, so it's just in general like,

1018
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920
you don't like the fantasy element or you don't like

1019
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,880
the, you don't like the supernatural stuff?

1020
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,240
It's hard for me to get on board with stuff.

1021
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:25,560
I'm really, I'm like a base in reality type of person.

1022
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,720
I like things that I feel like that I can really,

1023
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,280
either relate, I don't have to relate to it,

1024
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,560
but I just like things that I feel like

1025
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,840
it could actually happen, you know what I mean?

1026
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,240
Like, no, I don't know.

1027
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,160
I get it, I mean, yeah.

1028
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,840
One of the more interesting books I read was Salt,

1029
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,440
A History, and it was just this guy who wrote

1030
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000
just interesting anecdotes and true stuff

1031
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,160
about the history of salt.

1032
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,280
Like, you know the salary, sol is salt.

1033
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640
They used to pay Roman soldiers in salt,

1034
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680
and that's where we get the term salary from.

1035
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,120
That's the one thing I remember from it,

1036
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160
but then there's also like a bunch of historical stuff.

1037
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,720
That's one aspect.

1038
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:02,640
I'm trying to think of like, would you read a grounded,

1039
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,200
realistic, like murder mystery?

1040
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Yeah, 100%.

1041
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,000
I would, at this point, I'm in the point

1042
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,400
where I read almost anything

1043
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480
because I really want to figure out what I'm into still.

1044
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,240
Yeah, because I think you need to put a Stephen King book

1045
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,080
in your repertoire.

1046
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000
Yeah, I have a Dr. Sleep in my library that was given to me.

1047
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,560
You have to read Shining first.

1048
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,880
100%, yep, I was told.

1049
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,680
Yeah, like you can't just jump into Dr. Sleep.

1050
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,360
No, I know, I'm aware of what the story is,

1051
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,400
so I'm fully aware of that.

1052
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,200
Now, what's great about Stephen King, though,

1053
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,240
is he has taken all of his works

1054
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,840
and weaved him into a very cool multiverse story,

1055
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,440
the Dark Tower series.

1056
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,040
So, like, he has seven Dark Tower books

1057
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,560
that he wrote over a course of 40 years,

1058
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,960
and by the seventh one, it's fully blending in

1059
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,480
all of his previous works to some degree.

1060
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,240
Like, characters from different books make appearances,

1061
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,200
they bleed through this, like, multi,

1062
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,040
it's just a lone gunslinger

1063
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,120
who's hunting down the man in black

1064
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,720
and across a multiversal divide.

1065
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,160
And what makes that really interesting

1066
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,320
is there's a point where, in real life,

1067
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,200
Stephen King, and this is real real life,

1068
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,280
like, our real life, Stephen King,

1069
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160
who was told many times not to go hiking up this hill

1070
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,240
because a car could hit him,

1071
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,080
went hiking up a hill and a car hit him.

1072
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,360
A van hit him and fucked him up,

1073
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,360
and to the point where it was reported

1074
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,040
that he was dead for like two days

1075
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,960
or like a day or whatever until it got fixed,

1076
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080
people were saying, nope, Stephen King's not dead.

1077
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,760
But he got fucked up and almost died.

1078
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,880
So he wrote that into one of his books.

1079
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,280
He wrote that Stephen King, the author,

1080
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,240
is walking up, he gets hit by a van.

1081
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,320
And then Roland, the gunslinger,

1082
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,760
bleeds through the dimension

1083
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,120
and helps Stephen King stay alive.

1084
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,240
And then in return, Stephen King writes him some stuff

1085
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:55,520
in his storyline that helps him later on in the book.

1086
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,000
So Stephen King, he's not just a mom book.

1087
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,200
He's like, he's clever, he's smart, he's funny.

1088
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,640
Like, if you want a well,

1089
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:08,640
if you want just a straight, good, pre,

1090
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:11,360
like, I don't know, he's great.

1091
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,720
What I like in most of my stories,

1092
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:16,680
what makes me enjoy a story more than anything

1093
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,960
is if it's pre-cell phone.

1094
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,560
And I think that works with movies too now.

1095
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,120
That's funny, cause I was gonna say

1096
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,920
I was gonna pick up a Stephen King book.

1097
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,200
It's probably gonna be self.

1098
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,880
That was not, dude, that was actually,

1099
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,240
I know you're joking.

1100
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:31,080
No, no, I'm serious.

1101
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,280
Like if I was gonna read one,

1102
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,760
that's one that like sticks with me.

1103
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,760
Cause my grandma had like a whole collection

1104
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,840
and I would like study them

1105
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
cause there wasn't shit to do there.

1106
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,960
And I would just look at them

1107
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,800
and cell was just the one that stuck out to me.

1108
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,160
It was the cell phone covered in blood.

1109
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,000
Oh dude.

1110
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,840
The crack screen, I was like,

1111
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,680
that looks like it might be interesting.

1112
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,720
Do you know what that's about?

1113
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:50,680
It's, it's, it's, don't spoil it.

1114
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,520
I think I might read it.

1115
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,840
No, no, no, but this is just the,

1116
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,320
this is just the literally the first.

1117
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,600
If you spoil it, I'm never gonna read

1118
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,440
a Stephen King book in my life.

1119
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,520
No, no, no, this is just the first 30 second thing.

1120
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,360
This is what you would see in like the trailer.

1121
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,080
The back of the book when it's literally just

1122
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,720
at like 12, 15 on a Saturday American time,

1123
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,640
every cell phone in the entire world,

1124
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
whoever was on it gets hit with a fucking

1125
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,520
shock through the phone or whatever.

1126
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,400
And it turns them into zombies.

1127
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,760
So the zombie plague is caused by that.

1128
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,040
So it's not everybody, but it's,

1129
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,480
it's a lot of people that got hit all at once.

1130
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,360
Interesting.

1131
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,960
But this is Stephen King's take on zombies.

1132
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,760
And it is not your standard fucking Dawn of the Dead.

1133
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,840
His take is so much, it's so weird.

1134
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,800
It's so different.

1135
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,320
So like, you don't know what the fuck is happening,

1136
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,800
what these zombies are, what they're,

1137
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:39,640
what they're doing.

1138
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,840
I thought it was great.

1139
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,800
I thought the movie was John Cusack,

1140
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Sam Jackson, whatever.

1141
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,040
It's fine.

1142
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,240
They couldn't cover the complexities of the,

1143
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:50,200
of all the shit that King was trying to do

1144
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,040
with those zombies.

1145
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Sounds way different than what I thought it was gonna be.

1146
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,520
If, if you really want, if,

1147
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
if you're a new Stephen King person

1148
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,720
and you want something that's not heavily tied to Dark Tower

1149
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,800
or the Mr. Mercedes series or any of his other

1150
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,120
sort of things that you need to have more backstory to,

1151
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,880
read either 11, 22, 63, which is his time traveling,

1152
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,000
saved JFK from getting assassinated book, which is great.

1153
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,280
Or Under the Dome, which is a,

1154
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,360
which is the Simpsons movie, but it,

1155
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,360
that came out the same year, but it's,

1156
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,960
he says he didn't know anything about it.

1157
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,800
It's funny.

1158
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Some people came up with the same plot of giant dome

1159
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,040
gets dropped on a city and you just kind of,

1160
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,040
they just have to now live in this microcosm,

1161
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,680
which is crazy.

1162
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,400
Nobody tries to dig under.

1163
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,320
Oh, they try everything to get out and then nothing works.

1164
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,760
And then the ending of that's nuts, but,

1165
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,320
I don't know.

1166
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,160
They don't have running water?

1167
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,520
What about water getting to them?

1168
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Yeah, no, they run into all that problem,

1169
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,200
all those problems.

1170
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,120
They run into everything.

1171
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,160
There's a, there's a used car salesman

1172
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,960
who everyone kind of refers to is like,

1173
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,120
I think big Dick or something like he's a,

1174
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,440
or big Tom or big Bob.

1175
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,320
Like he's like the main guy who kind of is a half politician,

1176
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,640
half, you know, runs the town because he has all the jobs.

1177
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,400
Like he then takes the position of, all right,

1178
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,640
I'm going to run this fucking town

1179
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,840
now that no one can tell me otherwise.

1180
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,880
And so it becomes like a power structure, like power play.

1181
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,920
There's like, I don't want to go too much into it.

1182
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:21,920
Read it. It's fucking great.

1183
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,000
So you're a big story guy.

1184
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,520
Like you're not, you like Bukowski or no?

1185
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560
See, I wouldn't go into more philosophical stuff.

1186
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,040
Like, I guess the most philosophical guy

1187
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:32,760
that I'll read is like Chuck Palaknik.

1188
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Am I even familiar?

1189
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,360
Chuck Palaknik, I don't know that, Fight Club.

1190
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Oh, okay. Got you, got you.

1191
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Choke.

1192
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,520
No Kurt Von Gitt or like anything?

1193
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,760
Yeah, no, I've read, I've read Cat's Cradle

1194
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,560
and I've read Slaughterhouse Five.

1195
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Okay.

1196
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,080
I like Slaughterhouse Five.

1197
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,920
I like that too.

1198
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,200
I need to read Cat's Cradle. I want to read it.

1199
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,840
That's a short story collection.

1200
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,560
That one's interesting.

1201
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,720
English teacher gave me that to read

1202
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:58,720
when she noticed that I actually liked reading

1203
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,080
in English class, no one else.

1204
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Like my book reports were a little bit more,

1205
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,960
like I just had more fun with it

1206
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,120
because I was like, all right, fuck it.

1207
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Which book did I read this week?

1208
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,200
Let's talk about it.

1209
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,040
I had fun in English class, but you know,

1210
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,120
who's top of my list is Michael Crichton.

1211
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,360
I'm a big Crichton guy.

1212
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,560
That's who you might like.

1213
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Okay, because you weren't grounded in reality.

1214
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,280
Michael Crichton wrote Jurassic Park.

1215
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,240
He wrote Lost World.

1216
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,280
He wrote Andromeda Strain.

1217
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,240
He wrote, what's his other big one that he wrote?

1218
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:37,320
Timeline, but like take Timeline for instance, right?

1219
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,680
That's his time travel book,

1220
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,120
but his time travel book is the first 150 pages is,

1221
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,840
let's explain quantum physics to a casual book reader

1222
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,280
and the way that they can understand it.

1223
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Great.

1224
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,760
You now know what quantum physics is.

1225
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,880
We have this whole setup.

1226
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,760
Great.

1227
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,760
Here's some time travel now where you can go back

1228
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,280
to this one specific place in France

1229
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,320
and do very limited shit because it's time travel.

1230
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,140
It's realistic.

1231
00:42:02,140 --> 00:42:04,200
You can't just bring back whatever you want.

1232
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,240
You can't just play around.

1233
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,160
So, you know, whatever.

1234
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,000
It's like so realistic that it's problematic for them

1235
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,680
because if they had a fucking time machine

1236
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,760
that could go back in time and they, whatever.

1237
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,480
Like it's realistic sci-fi among them.

1238
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Very realistic sci-fi.

1239
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Just like Jurassic Park is supposed to be realistic sci-fi.

1240
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,260
It's supposed to be, we cloned these dinosaurs.

1241
00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:22,320
We have them on this island.

1242
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,400
We're working on this and then shit just goes wrong.

1243
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Something that could theoretically happen.

1244
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,200
You know, something that we can see theoretically happen.

1245
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,040
Yeah.

1246
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,680
I think one of them, he makes,

1247
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,800
he makes like a, there's like a lab

1248
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,220
that makes like a self-sentient,

1249
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,520
microscopic robot type of thing

1250
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,400
that then just starts multiplying

1251
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
and then starts doing whatever the fuck it wants

1252
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,680
because it can go anywhere and do anything.

1253
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,240
It's like the big hero six,

1254
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,660
those big hero six robots that he uses the, you know.

1255
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:56,000
Yeah.

1256
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,840
No?

1257
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,680
Big hero six.

1258
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:58,520
Remember?

1259
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,360
The Disney movie.

1260
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,800
Yeah, his power or his thing that he came up with

1261
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,680
to win the science fair.

1262
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,760
All those little nanobots that he controlled.

1263
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,360
Is there like a big robot guy in it?

1264
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,200
Big white robot guy.

1265
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,040
Yeah, big white robot.

1266
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Kind of looks like the Hitchhiker's Guide.

1267
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Yep.

1268
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Yeah, yeah, a little bit, yeah.

1269
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:13,960
I haven't seen it but I've seen the-

1270
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,800
Oh, the Hitchhiker.

1271
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,520
It's very sad, very sad.

1272
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,960
Hitchhiker books are great.

1273
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,000
Actually, yeah, I do want to read those.

1274
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:19,820
I heard about those.

1275
00:43:19,820 --> 00:43:21,160
They're funny as fuck.

1276
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Yeah, I heard that too.

1277
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,560
Those are really, oh, you know what else is

1278
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,360
really, really, really funny?

1279
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,360
Like just a silent killer funny is like Roger Rabbit,

1280
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,040
who Puppa plugged Roger Rabbit,

1281
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,940
who censored Roger Rabbit and who,

1282
00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:38,960
there isn't a frame, that's the movie.

1283
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,440
And then I forgot the other one.

1284
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,080
Who something Roger Rabbit.

1285
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,160
But the books are great.

1286
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,320
It's like he shows up

1287
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,360
and one of the dude he's talking to is smoking.

1288
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,560
And so he takes his smoke and he grabs it

1289
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,400
and puts it in a bag or whatever

1290
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,960
and then tosses it out the window

1291
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,100
so it doesn't flood his office.

1292
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,200
Very funny, very funny stuff.

1293
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,800
And they were written before the movie,

1294
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,400
like based on the movie.

1295
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,440
Back to the Stranger though, funny thing.

1296
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,280
Sorry, I mean-

1297
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,120
Sorry, nope, that's good.

1298
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920
I wanted this to be short anyway too, so.

1299
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,840
I was in the middle of reading

1300
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,920
Running the Light by Sam Talent.

1301
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,040
And I'm like halfway through the book, way bigger book.

1302
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Sean hits me up, tells me,

1303
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,480
I'm gonna do the podcast that Saturday

1304
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,460
and we're doing The Strangers, you should read it.

1305
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:33,240
So I go pick up a copy, I read that,

1306
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,320
then I finished Sam Talent's book

1307
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,780
and I start reading A Clockwork Orange.

1308
00:44:37,780 --> 00:44:39,560
I just saw it because I was grabbing books

1309
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:40,760
at Barnes and Noble and I saw it,

1310
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,200
oh yeah, I love that movie.

1311
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,400
And I started reading that.

1312
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,440
Clockwork Orange, basically The Stranger,

1313
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,920
if Marasault was a fucking piece of shit.

1314
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,160
And it's three parts instead of two, seven chapters each,

1315
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,960
which there's like a, in the beginning it tells you

1316
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,800
there's like a reason behind that.

1317
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,440
Do they say he goes out for a little bit of ultraviolence?

1318
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,400
Oh, all those things and more, a lot more.

1319
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,920
Goes to the milk bar full of drugs.

1320
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,160
The Grova milk bar with the Dread and Crumb,

1321
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,160
Synthemes, all that, all those things are in there.

1322
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,600
It's just like the movie except maybe if you watched it

1323
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,000
with like deleted scenes included.

1324
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,560
And more, a lot more like, oh, all through your gutty what's

1325
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,160
and you know, the Malachicks like me

1326
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,280
and you know, gave him a tallachuk and that means fight.

1327
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,560
And like you don't know what any of these fucking words mean

1328
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,840
but the more you read it, it's like you're kind of learning

1329
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,880
just how to use all of that.

1330
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,680
I, one of my favorite things to do

1331
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,720
is movie to book adaptations.

1332
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:39,300
This one, it doesn't matter whether you saw the movie first

1333
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:41,900
or not, I think, you know, you read the book,

1334
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:42,740
you could watch the movie.

1335
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,560
You could watch the movie and then read the book.

1336
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:49,440
It's a different, it stays generally pretty much the same.

1337
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,600
There's extra stuff in it.

1338
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,440
I would say.

1339
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,880
But there's a whole missing chapter from the movie.

1340
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:54,720
Sure.

1341
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:56,160
The American version had 20 chapters

1342
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,620
and he needed the money so he just let them make it

1343
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:00,920
however they wanted.

1344
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,840
And then Stanley Kubrick made the movie.

1345
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,240
On the American version with the extra chapter?

1346
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:07,520
No, no, no, no, no, no.

1347
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,040
The original book, 21 chapters by Anthony Burgess.

1348
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,560
Then when he went to sell it to America,

1349
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440
get it published out there, they took away the last chapter.

1350
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,280
Oh.

1351
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,240
And he was just like, whatever, I need the money.

1352
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,320
And then Stanley Kubrick made the movie

1353
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,600
and like also kind of added his own changes to it.

1354
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,440
Okay.

1355
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:26,800
So it's slightly different in the book

1356
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,280
and there's a whole extra chapter at the end.

1357
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,520
Okay, interesting.

1358
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,760
I might have to put it on my list.

1359
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,040
But I like that you guys are getting passionate

1360
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,200
about reading.

1361
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,360
Some of the best,

1362
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,360
there's been some egregious book to film adaptations,

1363
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,240
just some really fucking god awful ones.

1364
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,600
Then there's been some that have been absolutely stellar.

1365
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,040
Like Fight Club is a 10 out of 10.

1366
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,240
They changed one thing,

1367
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:58,400
one minor little tiny insignificant thing.

1368
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,540
And then also they didn't start each scene

1369
00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:03,840
with a different way to make Homemade Napalm.

1370
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,160
Would you count the crow along with that?

1371
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,560
Because they really didn't change too much.

1372
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,360
I'll count any comic book adaptation too,

1373
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,400
but that's a little bit different.

1374
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,640
Like a book and a comic book are different

1375
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,880
because you're getting your images told through,

1376
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,880
you're getting your story told through imagery

1377
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,360
or you're getting it told through like words,

1378
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,200
but dialogue, inner thoughts.

1379
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Pure description, you have to go by your own idea

1380
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,440
of what description is.

1381
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,280
You know what I mean?

1382
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,040
Everybody pictures a different thing.

1383
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,040
Yeah, I mean, when I read Harry Potter,

1384
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,280
my mom, her friend got back from England

1385
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,280
and she's like, hey, these are really popular over there.

1386
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,280
And my mom ordered them and I read the first three

1387
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,800
and holy shit, that's what got me,

1388
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,680
one of the first few books that got me passionate,

1389
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:53,520
really passionate.

1390
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,520
I read it, I'd read Hatchet by Gary Paulson.

1391
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,400
And that's a cool book about like a kid who,

1392
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,100
in fifth grade, I read Hatchet on my own just for fun.

1393
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:05,920
And it's a kid who gets trapped in the Canadian wilderness

1394
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,600
with just a hatchet and like a few bear supplies

1395
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,600
and he like survives for a few weeks.

1396
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,840
It's fucking cool, or he dies I think at the end,

1397
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,480
but it's like he makes it for a few weeks.

1398
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,320
Thanks for ruining that for me.

1399
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,140
Sorry.

1400
00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:16,980
No, I'm just kidding.

1401
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:18,400
I'm just kidding.

1402
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,040
But then what's crazy about that,

1403
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,100
just the side story is when they made a sequel,

1404
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,800
he wrote a sequel to it because he was strapped for cash

1405
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,960
and he needed money and he's like,

1406
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,040
that was my best selling book,

1407
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,080
so I'm gonna write another one.

1408
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,520
And he changed the ending.

1409
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,640
He retroactively changed the ending of the hatchet,

1410
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,800
so now when you get a copy, the boy lives at the end.

1411
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,480
But his original cut was he dies because in the next one,

1412
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,700
the government hires this kid to,

1413
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:46,280
they trap him in the woods saying,

1414
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,760
hey, show us how you did it and we'll study you

1415
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,980
so that we can help people in the future

1416
00:48:50,980 --> 00:48:52,200
learn how to survive.

1417
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,520
And then shit goes wrong and he just has to survive then

1418
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,760
for a couple of weeks again with just a fucking hatchet.

1419
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,720
It's a little bit of a wash, rinse, or repeat,

1420
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,160
but whatever, what are you gonna do?

1421
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,000
Okay.

1422
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,880
I'll read Wood Song if you want to, Gary Paulson.

1423
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,120
Okay, so let's rate The Stranger.

1424
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,680
We'll rate it out of what?

1425
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,320
Do you wanna do it the same way as the movie?

1426
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,600
Oh, never, never.

1427
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,920
For my book club, it's always five,

1428
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,640
whatever stands out from the books.

1429
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Oh, so out of five unnecessary bullet shots.

1430
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,640
Out of five.

1431
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,660
What do you guys rate this?

1432
00:49:29,660 --> 00:49:31,060
All right.

1433
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:34,140
Yeah, for me, dude, I'm gonna go,

1434
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:36,140
I have to go like a good five.

1435
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:36,980
Like I love that.

1436
00:49:36,980 --> 00:49:38,360
You can use a five out of five.

1437
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,200
I really do, yeah.

1438
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,060
I think, I mean, this is a classic for a reason.

1439
00:49:41,060 --> 00:49:42,980
It's this shit gets taught in philosophy,

1440
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:46,760
but I can't say that word, philosophy classes.

1441
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:51,620
I mean, I can't express to you how much I enjoyed reading it.

1442
00:49:51,620 --> 00:49:54,520
It's the only book I've read twice so far in my life.

1443
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:57,580
I ripped through it.

1444
00:49:57,580 --> 00:50:01,900
I enjoyed his take on life.

1445
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:04,740
And although I don't agree with every single part of it,

1446
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:07,540
it's something that has stuck with me a lot,

1447
00:50:07,540 --> 00:50:08,900
like his take on it.

1448
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:10,060
And it's something I think about a lot.

1449
00:50:10,060 --> 00:50:11,940
So yeah, I think it's like for me, it's a big five

1450
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:14,300
because for me to read it twice is crazy to me.

1451
00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:15,140
I love it.

1452
00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:17,100
So five bullets, five unnecessary bullets.

1453
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,540
I'm also gonna go five just because

1454
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,380
I thought I could read just this one book

1455
00:50:24,380 --> 00:50:25,820
that I was already reading and like,

1456
00:50:25,820 --> 00:50:28,140
I was losing interest, but I'm like,

1457
00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:29,220
then this one came around

1458
00:50:29,220 --> 00:50:31,020
and made me think totally different.

1459
00:50:32,580 --> 00:50:34,940
And it made me want to read even more books,

1460
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:38,260
which now I'm on my third one in like, you know,

1461
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:39,780
just over a week.

1462
00:50:39,780 --> 00:50:42,060
I'm glad that it inspired you.

1463
00:50:42,060 --> 00:50:44,660
I'm gonna give it a like a two and a half.

1464
00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:45,500
Yeah.

1465
00:50:46,740 --> 00:50:50,940
For no other reason than it didn't make me feel anything

1466
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:52,420
one way or the other, like.

1467
00:50:52,420 --> 00:50:53,380
All right, Marisol.

1468
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:54,420
Then you should give it a five.

1469
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:55,980
Yeah, I'm just kidding.

1470
00:50:55,980 --> 00:50:56,820
You got it.

1471
00:50:56,820 --> 00:50:57,660
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1472
00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:58,820
I got the message, yeah.

1473
00:50:58,820 --> 00:51:02,380
No, look, there wasn't much to,

1474
00:51:02,380 --> 00:51:04,780
I get that this is something you could discuss

1475
00:51:04,780 --> 00:51:06,260
in a philosophy class.

1476
00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:09,380
To me, that's not something that calls,

1477
00:51:09,380 --> 00:51:10,380
that shouts out to me.

1478
00:51:10,380 --> 00:51:13,820
Like this isn't something that I would have read on my own.

1479
00:51:13,820 --> 00:51:16,060
Which is sometimes like a good thing.

1480
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:18,020
So I thought like stranger in a strange land

1481
00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:21,020
that Austin recommended was a.

1482
00:51:21,020 --> 00:51:22,140
That one was kinda out there.

1483
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:23,100
That one was out there.

1484
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,900
That one had a lot of philosophical points of view on it.

1485
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,700
Suggested to me by my friend's dead dad.

1486
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:30,940
So RIP to your friend's dead dad.

1487
00:51:30,940 --> 00:51:34,340
And you could have just said your friend's dead.

1488
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:36,300
No one needed to know.

1489
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,660
Well, that's the only reason why even,

1490
00:51:38,660 --> 00:51:41,020
if someone just mentions that to me,

1491
00:51:41,020 --> 00:51:43,060
that suggested that book to me and didn't die,

1492
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:45,900
I probably would have not even thought about it since then.

1493
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:48,620
This is how shit is the butterfly effect of the world

1494
00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:50,940
where his dying wish is me making

1495
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:52,700
a Wednesday night book club out of it.

1496
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:53,620
And I didn't even finish it.

1497
00:51:53,620 --> 00:51:54,780
I made you read it.

1498
00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:56,020
Yeah.

1499
00:51:56,020 --> 00:52:01,020
But there are books out there that make me think.

1500
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:04,860
This wasn't really one of them.

1501
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,860
This wasn't something that stuck out with me.

1502
00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:11,380
That's something to think twice on.

1503
00:52:11,380 --> 00:52:15,700
You know, this is like a poor man's,

1504
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:17,340
well no, it's different entirely.

1505
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:19,740
But if you want a book that makes you think,

1506
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:22,500
read The Alchemist by Paulo Cohen.

1507
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,740
Like that is, that's the book.

1508
00:52:24,740 --> 00:52:28,140
I watched an interview, a short little like TikTok

1509
00:52:28,140 --> 00:52:32,900
or YouTube clip where Oprah Winfrey was talking to Pharrell

1510
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:34,740
of all people, okay?

1511
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:39,740
And Pharrell or Oprah mentions The Alchemist, this book.

1512
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:44,620
And Pharrell's like, she's like, well,

1513
00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:46,500
Pharrell's like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

1514
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,100
I was just like doing like nothing with my life.

1515
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:50,900
And then I read The Alchemist

1516
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:53,740
and like changed my entire outlook on everything.

1517
00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:55,940
And Oprah's like, yeah, like me too.

1518
00:52:55,940 --> 00:52:57,300
That's like one of the most important books

1519
00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:58,140
I've ever read in my life.

1520
00:52:58,140 --> 00:53:00,740
So I was like, okay, Oprah and Pharrell,

1521
00:53:00,740 --> 00:53:02,980
you two massively famous people

1522
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:07,460
that have done a lot more than I've all ever dreamed to do.

1523
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:08,540
I'll read The Alchemist.

1524
00:53:08,540 --> 00:53:11,900
And that book, I think I've now read probably four times.

1525
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:13,580
Like it's a very quick read.

1526
00:53:13,580 --> 00:53:15,180
It's very philosophical.

1527
00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:16,420
It's right up your alley.

1528
00:53:16,420 --> 00:53:17,820
It's a parable.

1529
00:53:17,820 --> 00:53:20,500
So it's like just an unnamed boy, you know,

1530
00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:22,820
going on a journey in like, you know,

1531
00:53:24,220 --> 00:53:27,540
sort of ancient times, you know, and it's so powerful.

1532
00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:32,540
He's a sheep herder, but he gets called to do more.

1533
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,860
And he just keeps moving from thing to thing.

1534
00:53:36,860 --> 00:53:38,220
But like, it's a journey.

1535
00:53:38,220 --> 00:53:39,140
It's a process.

1536
00:53:39,140 --> 00:53:40,660
He's following like his,

1537
00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:42,660
I think one of the most important takeaways from the book,

1538
00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:46,620
just like a moral would be as long as you're living

1539
00:53:46,620 --> 00:53:49,900
in pursuit of your life's dreams,

1540
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:52,380
there's never a moment wasted in your life.

1541
00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:54,740
So you could die at any point,

1542
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:57,980
happy in the knowledge that you lived every moment,

1543
00:53:57,980 --> 00:53:59,660
trying to fulfill your dreams.

1544
00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:01,020
Is trying to fulfill your dreams

1545
00:54:01,020 --> 00:54:02,780
is a form of fulfilling them.

1546
00:54:02,780 --> 00:54:04,180
It's just a process.

1547
00:54:04,180 --> 00:54:06,100
And so maybe you don't get to the end goal.

1548
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:09,660
Maybe it never gets to the results that you wanted,

1549
00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:12,620
but you're still on your way.

1550
00:54:12,620 --> 00:54:13,580
So I don't know.

1551
00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:16,820
It's not, but it's not, it's not, but it's not like,

1552
00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:17,660
it's saccharin.

1553
00:54:17,660 --> 00:54:19,860
It's not like sugary sweet, you know,

1554
00:54:19,860 --> 00:54:22,700
it's a well-told parable that's been translated

1555
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:24,740
into 80 something language.

1556
00:54:24,740 --> 00:54:26,020
It's just fucking insane.

1557
00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:29,700
It's like one of the most absolutely must read

1558
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:30,700
if you're trying,

1559
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:32,860
especially after you made me read The Stranger,

1560
00:54:32,860 --> 00:54:35,220
not made me, but you recommended this.

1561
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:36,060
I would say-

1562
00:54:36,060 --> 00:54:36,900
I'd be more than happy to read it.

1563
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:39,180
See the other side of the coin on that one.

1564
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:41,700
A much less pessimistic view of the world.

1565
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:44,380
No, yeah, I'm ready to hear all of this side of you.

1566
00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:47,220
That's why I'm into this, because like I'm dead inside

1567
00:54:47,220 --> 00:54:49,420
and I am broken and I'm trying to figure out

1568
00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,460
who the fuck and what the fuck.

1569
00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:52,300
Yeah.

1570
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:53,120
That's, you know what I'm saying?

1571
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,540
Sure, yeah, I get it.

1572
00:54:54,540 --> 00:54:55,940
And yeah, I'm interested in everything.

1573
00:54:55,940 --> 00:54:58,300
That's why I'm, like, the reason why I started reading

1574
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:00,060
all this is because I want to become a better writer.

1575
00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:03,260
Like I'm obsessed with being a great joke writer

1576
00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:05,300
and I want to not only just write jokes,

1577
00:55:05,300 --> 00:55:06,740
but I want to write other things.

1578
00:55:06,740 --> 00:55:08,980
And the best way to do that is to fucking read.

1579
00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:10,620
And I just, and like, not only that,

1580
00:55:10,620 --> 00:55:13,260
but I want to not be a dumb motherfucker.

1581
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:14,420
Like I dropped out of high school.

1582
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:15,540
I never did anything in school.

1583
00:55:15,540 --> 00:55:17,140
I didn't listen, didn't pay attention.

1584
00:55:17,140 --> 00:55:18,740
Like I'm not, it's never that guy, you know?

1585
00:55:18,740 --> 00:55:20,860
And so I'm just doing everything I can now as an adult

1586
00:55:20,860 --> 00:55:24,140
to just like be a more well-educated, well-read,

1587
00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:26,100
not ignorant fucking human, you know?

1588
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:30,420
Yeah, I love being, I love going to work

1589
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:35,220
and using words that my coworkers sometimes don't,

1590
00:55:35,220 --> 00:55:37,180
like my younger coworkers have never heard,

1591
00:55:37,180 --> 00:55:38,540
because they're not, they don't go,

1592
00:55:38,540 --> 00:55:41,700
because your vocabulary expands when you read,

1593
00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:43,160
because you learn new things.

1594
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,420
Like you can look up words that you've never heard before.

1595
00:55:46,420 --> 00:55:47,460
100%.

1596
00:55:47,460 --> 00:55:49,700
Terms that you've never heard, historical events

1597
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:51,060
that you've never heard about before.

1598
00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:51,900
Yeah.

1599
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:53,740
I, like, I had never known about,

1600
00:55:53,740 --> 00:55:55,940
I didn't know what a sundown county was.

1601
00:55:55,940 --> 00:55:56,780
Sundown town was?

1602
00:55:56,780 --> 00:55:59,700
Yeah, until Lovecraft Country.

1603
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:00,980
Kingman used to be one.

1604
00:56:00,980 --> 00:56:01,800
Was it really?

1605
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:02,640
Yeah.

1606
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,480
Holy shit.

1607
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,620
They had like signs up until, I heard this,

1608
00:56:05,620 --> 00:56:07,700
I don't know if it's true, I'm being recorded,

1609
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:09,220
but I heard this one time fucking,

1610
00:56:09,220 --> 00:56:11,540
apparently there was signs up until the 80s.

1611
00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:12,380
Oh wow.

1612
00:56:12,380 --> 00:56:13,300
That they had to take, that they finally took down.

1613
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:14,620
Like it was there for a while.

1614
00:56:14,620 --> 00:56:16,460
Like they obviously weren't enforcing it in the,

1615
00:56:16,460 --> 00:56:18,820
there were signs still around like from back then.

1616
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:21,420
Kingman's not like that anymore, I can say.

1617
00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:24,480
It seems like a pretty decent little town now.

1618
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,420
Yeah, I don't know much about it.

1619
00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:27,380
I like their downtown, but.

1620
00:56:27,380 --> 00:56:28,500
No, it's a pretty town.

1621
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:29,580
Yeah.

1622
00:56:29,580 --> 00:56:32,220
Unless it's still secretly racist, then fuck Kingman.

1623
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:34,420
I've got no allegiances to it.

1624
00:56:34,420 --> 00:56:36,580
I've bombed pretty hard a couple times there, so.

1625
00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:37,620
Fuck you guys.

1626
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:40,700
Yeah, get better sense of humor for sure.

1627
00:56:41,780 --> 00:56:42,740
Well yeah, okay.

1628
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:45,760
So two fives and a 2.5, it's fine.

1629
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,940
You guys seem to, but it's funny.

1630
00:56:47,940 --> 00:56:48,780
I like that you didn't like it.

1631
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:49,600
I like that you're honest opinion.

1632
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,500
I like that you gave it a five for the fact

1633
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:56,460
that it brought out a lot of philosophical thought

1634
00:56:56,460 --> 00:56:59,260
and it made you ponder and it gave you a lot

1635
00:56:59,260 --> 00:57:01,340
to chew on mentally, which is great.

1636
00:57:01,340 --> 00:57:04,740
And a book that, any book that gives you a lot to chew on,

1637
00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:07,080
like even in this most recent Stephen King short story,

1638
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,900
there was a few times where I had to stop

1639
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:11,140
after a short story was over instead of just going straight

1640
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:13,860
into the next one so that I could digest

1641
00:57:13,860 --> 00:57:15,500
what he just, what I just heard.

1642
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:16,340
That's important.

1643
00:57:16,340 --> 00:57:17,820
Yeah, it is and it's, and it,

1644
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:20,060
there's some thought provoking stuff in there.

1645
00:57:21,060 --> 00:57:23,460
Actually, I'm just gonna start recommending

1646
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:25,800
more and more books, but well I will say this

1647
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,980
if you're listening at home, which you should be.

1648
00:57:27,980 --> 00:57:30,840
Don't, don't, well listen anywhere you want, I don't care.

1649
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,260
Andy Weir, who wrote The Martian,

1650
00:57:33,260 --> 00:57:35,900
which is that wonderful Matt Damon movie

1651
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:36,740
if you haven't seen it.

1652
00:57:36,740 --> 00:57:37,580
I have seen it.

1653
00:57:37,580 --> 00:57:41,640
Which is a great movie, books 10 times better,

1654
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,320
but Project Hail Mary, which they haven't made a movie yet.

1655
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,380
I don't know why, it must be in the works.

1656
00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:48,380
There has to be something,

1657
00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:49,800
because that's one of the most,

1658
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,360
it's a first contact book.

1659
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,680
It's like a guy in space all alone, his crew is dead.

1660
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,260
He's now 40, 50 light years from home.

1661
00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:00,180
He got sent to study some star,

1662
00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:02,300
some planet that might be Earth-like.

1663
00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:03,140
Yeah.

1664
00:58:03,140 --> 00:58:05,980
Another alien, similar situation.

1665
00:58:05,980 --> 00:58:07,100
Doing the same thing.

1666
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:08,620
Came out to the same star.

1667
00:58:08,620 --> 00:58:12,020
They find each other and then just slowly

1668
00:58:12,020 --> 00:58:14,420
throughout the book find a way to communicate,

1669
00:58:14,420 --> 00:58:17,820
find a way to know each other's culture a little bit.

1670
00:58:17,820 --> 00:58:20,540
And that's one of the few books where

1671
00:58:22,060 --> 00:58:24,200
I don't want to be inside the store.

1672
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,300
I want to just get right back out into my car

1673
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:27,820
and just keep going.

1674
00:58:27,820 --> 00:58:28,660
That's cool.

1675
00:58:28,660 --> 00:58:29,620
Because it's so good.

1676
00:58:29,620 --> 00:58:31,980
If we're talking about just engaging story-wise.

1677
00:58:31,980 --> 00:58:32,980
What were you finished with your thought?

1678
00:58:32,980 --> 00:58:34,900
You were saying you liked that I chose five stars.

1679
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:36,300
Oh yeah, because it was so philosophical

1680
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,140
and made you chew on it.

1681
00:58:37,140 --> 00:58:38,260
And then I liked that Austin, he's like,

1682
00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:39,700
I didn't think about the philosophy once.

1683
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:41,340
I just liked the story.

1684
00:58:41,340 --> 00:58:43,820
Later going back, because now I can talk to other people

1685
00:58:43,820 --> 00:58:44,660
who read the book.

1686
00:58:44,660 --> 00:58:46,860
I don't know a lot of people who read books.

1687
00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:48,020
Yeah, me neither.

1688
00:58:48,020 --> 00:58:49,860
If you met my family, oh yeah, okay.

1689
00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:52,620
Shout out to Austin's mom.

1690
00:58:52,620 --> 00:58:53,460
I liked going in.

1691
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:54,800
She has these perfect weed beanies.

1692
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,100
Don't talk shit about her.

1693
00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:58,960
Well, yeah.

1694
00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:02,460
But The Stranger, I kind of just read it

1695
00:59:02,460 --> 00:59:04,180
for the story straight through.

1696
00:59:04,180 --> 00:59:08,660
And then all the philosophical stuff came after that.

1697
00:59:08,660 --> 00:59:10,300
After talking to people about it.

1698
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:14,340
And the reason I gave it a five is because after that,

1699
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:16,180
I started reading Clockwork Orange,

1700
00:59:16,180 --> 00:59:18,060
which turns out to be another thinker.

1701
00:59:18,060 --> 00:59:19,580
What makes a guy good?

1702
00:59:19,580 --> 00:59:22,140
There can't be good without bad.

1703
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:23,720
If you're trying too hard to be good,

1704
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,580
you're ignoring your bad instinct.

1705
00:59:25,580 --> 00:59:28,100
It's more, I do like a good thinker.

1706
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:30,420
Gave you further insight on the book even.

1707
00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:32,500
I really liked Sam Talent's book.

1708
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:33,780
I really like these books.

1709
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:37,000
So I'm also at the same time still trying to figure out

1710
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,580
what I like the most.

1711
00:59:38,580 --> 00:59:41,180
Right now I just like these thinker books

1712
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:44,700
more than this one fictional story book.

1713
00:59:44,700 --> 00:59:46,500
So further down the line.

1714
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:50,100
I think a shorthand to finding out what you might be into

1715
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:53,180
is think of a movie that you like that has a book

1716
00:59:53,180 --> 00:59:55,460
that it was based on and read that one.

1717
00:59:55,460 --> 00:59:57,100
And most people when you say Clockwork Orange,

1718
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:57,980
you don't think about the book.

1719
00:59:57,980 --> 00:59:59,940
You're thinking about that movie and what the fuck.

1720
00:59:59,940 --> 01:00:01,060
It's just a crazy weird movie.

1721
01:00:01,060 --> 01:00:02,460
But unless you've read the book.

1722
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:04,780
Because now a lot of times people mention it

1723
01:00:04,780 --> 01:00:06,320
and I don't think of the movies at all.

1724
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:11,220
I think of the book which has one of the most hilarious,

1725
01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:15,340
it's never going to ever be in a movie ever scenes, ever.

1726
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:17,660
So Cormac McCarthy, the guy who wrote The Road.

1727
01:00:17,660 --> 01:00:19,700
He wrote No Country for Old Men.

1728
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:21,540
You guys are familiar with that movie I'm sure, right?

1729
01:00:21,540 --> 01:00:23,540
Great movie, amazing book apparently.

1730
01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:24,380
Tommy Lee Jones, right?

1731
01:00:24,380 --> 01:00:25,620
Or no, Tommy Lee Jones?

1732
01:00:26,820 --> 01:00:28,160
No.

1733
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,160
Josh Brolin.

1734
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,980
Yes, yes and Javier Bardem.

1735
01:00:31,980 --> 01:00:34,100
Yeah, that's a good movie.

1736
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,900
But see that's one of those movies that the plotline

1737
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:39,860
isn't really that gets me.

1738
01:00:39,860 --> 01:00:42,500
It's the cinematography, the slow build, the kills,

1739
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:46,260
the action, the acting is what made me go,

1740
01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:47,660
oh this was a good movie.

1741
01:00:47,660 --> 01:00:50,100
I need to read the source material of this.

1742
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:51,740
That's great, I love that you said that

1743
01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:54,300
because I agree with every single thing that you just said

1744
01:00:54,300 --> 01:00:56,060
and that's why when I found out it was a book,

1745
01:00:56,060 --> 01:00:58,820
it actually made me more interested in reading it

1746
01:00:58,820 --> 01:01:00,900
for that exact reason.

1747
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:04,740
Because I was like, oh that story isn't,

1748
01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:05,900
I'm telling you, you said it so well.

1749
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:08,740
It wasn't the story that I necessarily was obsessed with,

1750
01:01:08,740 --> 01:01:11,700
it was the vibe of the movie, it was the main killer,

1751
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:14,140
it was just, and then I thought about the dialogue

1752
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:16,700
that I liked and I'm like, well dialogue, that's writing.

1753
01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:18,580
That had to come from somewhere.

1754
01:01:18,580 --> 01:01:21,380
So I'm like, and then I read Cormac McCarthy's The Road

1755
01:01:21,380 --> 01:01:23,100
and then I realized how much I love his writing

1756
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:25,860
and then I was like, oh now I really wanna read that book.

1757
01:01:25,860 --> 01:01:30,020
I bet you the plot will make more sense to you

1758
01:01:30,020 --> 01:01:32,380
on a rewatch of the movie after reading the book.

1759
01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:34,620
Because then you'll be like, I understand who this guy is,

1760
01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:37,460
what his motivation is, what his story is,

1761
01:01:37,460 --> 01:01:39,300
what his thinking during all these things.

1762
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:44,300
Is that, okay, so, sometimes what makes a movie great

1763
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,860
is the opposite of what makes a book great

1764
01:01:46,860 --> 01:01:49,100
because take Hunger Games.

1765
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:51,380
Hunger Games is a book that I,

1766
01:01:52,460 --> 01:01:54,860
I heard the movie was coming out and I was like,

1767
01:01:54,860 --> 01:01:56,420
oh it's based on a book, okay.

1768
01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:58,980
I found it on Kindle, I read it in one night

1769
01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:00,780
because it's a quick little, it's not that quick,

1770
01:02:00,780 --> 01:02:03,300
but I couldn't put it down because I was like,

1771
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:04,380
these kids killing each other,

1772
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:06,620
what a great fucking storyline.

1773
01:02:06,620 --> 01:02:10,660
Battle Royale, but futuristic, it was great.

1774
01:02:10,660 --> 01:02:12,220
Then I immediately watched the movie.

1775
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:14,380
I was like, oh shit, it's nine o'clock in the morning,

1776
01:02:14,380 --> 01:02:16,500
there's a movie starting in an hour, let's go.

1777
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:20,020
I watched it and I noticed the biggest difference was,

1778
01:02:20,020 --> 01:02:22,000
and this is the biggest difference in movies and books,

1779
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,820
is that you don't know what the character's thinking

1780
01:02:24,820 --> 01:02:26,460
when you're watching a movie.

1781
01:02:26,460 --> 01:02:28,740
So you just have to rely on their acting

1782
01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:31,180
and Katniss Everdeen, you could tell,

1783
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:34,380
you don't know all the shit, it doesn't matter

1784
01:02:34,380 --> 01:02:36,100
that she's thinking about her sister,

1785
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:38,460
thinking about her boyfriend, or thinking about whatever.

1786
01:02:38,460 --> 01:02:42,300
It's just, she's on the hunt and she's quietly in the woods

1787
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:43,420
and there's beautiful scenery

1788
01:02:43,420 --> 01:02:44,900
and you see the hunt happen.

1789
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:48,020
And it's just like, that makes it a good movie moment.

1790
01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:50,380
But then in the book, when you're reading that same scene

1791
01:02:50,380 --> 01:02:53,540
and she's contemplating all these fucking complex feelings

1792
01:02:53,540 --> 01:02:55,500
that she's having about this futuristic world

1793
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:58,500
she lives in with the Hunger Games as a fucking thing.

1794
01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:01,260
And she internalizes the thought of like,

1795
01:03:01,260 --> 01:03:06,140
it's not just in the movie where I volunteer as tribute,

1796
01:03:06,140 --> 01:03:08,980
there's a moment where she's thinking about it.

1797
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:13,980
Where she's like, I don't know if she questions herself,

1798
01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:17,460
but there's definitely not just an immediate I volunteer.

1799
01:03:17,460 --> 01:03:19,780
There's a moment where they say Prim's name

1800
01:03:19,780 --> 01:03:21,180
and she's like, fuck.

1801
01:03:22,180 --> 01:03:23,860
And she's stressing and there's panic

1802
01:03:23,860 --> 01:03:26,540
and there's all this stuff that you get

1803
01:03:26,540 --> 01:03:28,980
from her performance in the movie.

1804
01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:29,820
But you get-

1805
01:03:29,820 --> 01:03:30,640
It's just different.

1806
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,260
Yeah, so it's like, I think that's what,

1807
01:03:34,460 --> 01:03:35,660
I think they go hand in hand.

1808
01:03:35,660 --> 01:03:39,300
I think sometimes it enhances the other one.

1809
01:03:39,300 --> 01:03:42,220
Cause now if I were to reread Hunger Game, which I wouldn't,

1810
01:03:42,220 --> 01:03:44,220
but if I were to reread it,

1811
01:03:44,220 --> 01:03:48,100
I think I would picture the kind of vibe that they gave

1812
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:50,820
for the actual Hunger Games, which is pretty cool.

1813
01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:53,340
Like the actual arena that they built.

1814
01:03:53,340 --> 01:03:54,940
But anyway.

1815
01:03:54,940 --> 01:03:56,260
Cool.

1816
01:03:56,260 --> 01:03:58,060
Cool, I hope to have you guys back on.

1817
01:03:58,060 --> 01:03:58,900
I'm down.

1818
01:03:58,900 --> 01:03:59,720
Yeah, we'll do this again.

1819
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,540
Just anytime we can find a book that we all want to read.

1820
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:05,000
Well, I guess, you know what?

1821
01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:06,780
It'll be-

1822
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:07,600
Burning the Light.

1823
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,580
It was your book this time.

1824
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:11,420
Yep.

1825
01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:14,060
So I guess we'll go with,

1826
01:04:14,060 --> 01:04:16,440
oh, you already had one, Stranger in a Strange Land.

1827
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:17,280
Yeah.

1828
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,500
Which you didn't participate in.

1829
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:20,060
He made me read, but I already did that.

1830
01:04:20,060 --> 01:04:21,940
So I think I'll come up with the next one.

1831
01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:23,620
I'll hit you guys up with the book when I,

1832
01:04:23,620 --> 01:04:25,100
I might even be one I've already mentioned.

1833
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:26,140
It could be The Alchemist.

1834
01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:26,960
It could be-

1835
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,460
If you read that one though, we should do it for that one.

1836
01:04:28,460 --> 01:04:30,300
We already read this one.

1837
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:31,140
Both of us have already read that.

1838
01:04:31,140 --> 01:04:32,820
So I'll do it as you, Running the Light by Sam Town.

1839
01:04:32,820 --> 01:04:34,100
Well, if you guys can make it next week,

1840
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:34,940
well then we'll do-

1841
01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:35,780
I can't do next week now.

1842
01:04:35,780 --> 01:04:36,620
I'll be-

1843
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:38,900
Oh, then we'll do the week after.

1844
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:41,060
Cool, we'll do Running the Light with Sam Town.

1845
01:04:41,060 --> 01:04:42,580
We'll be two episodes from now.

1846
01:04:43,460 --> 01:04:45,680
Next week's book is,

1847
01:04:47,140 --> 01:04:48,740
wait a minute.

1848
01:04:48,740 --> 01:04:50,800
Am I gonna do Stephen King before this?

1849
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:53,280
Okay, well, shit.

1850
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:54,580
I didn't think about this.

1851
01:04:56,580 --> 01:04:57,780
You know I can make the episodes.

1852
01:04:57,780 --> 01:04:58,620
I'm already gonna be here.

1853
01:04:58,620 --> 01:05:01,580
So just if Sean wants to come do one then-

1854
01:05:01,580 --> 01:05:03,300
Yeah, I think, no, I'm just in my mind.

1855
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:06,260
I'm trying to think where this episode goes.

1856
01:05:06,260 --> 01:05:09,100
Because I think I'm doing the Stephen King episode

1857
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:09,920
before this.

1858
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,300
So I don't know what my next book is gonna be.

1859
01:05:13,180 --> 01:05:14,300
That's okay, they'll find out.

1860
01:05:14,300 --> 01:05:15,140
You know what?

1861
01:05:15,140 --> 01:05:16,860
Look in the comments, you'll find out.

1862
01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:18,560
Sorry guys, I don't have my next book lined up.

1863
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:19,760
There's so many of them.

1864
01:05:21,660 --> 01:05:22,720
All right.

1865
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:23,560
Bye.

1866
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,400
Bye-bye.

1867
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:53,220
Later.