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You're listening to Raising Anchor on 990 WBOB.

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Welcome to the Raising Anchor Soccer Show with

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Matt Entrigan and Jason Carey. Your home for

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news, analysis, and everything Rhode Island FC.

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Each week they take you inside the locker room,

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inside the tactics, and inside the storyline

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shaping RISC. Here's Matt and Jason. Here for

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a special edition, a special treat of the Raising

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Anchor Soccer Show. We once again get to sit

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down with some of the most important people within

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the Rhode Island FC community. And of course,

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that is the players themselves. Happy to get

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to introduce and talk today with none other than

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Leo Afonso, Rhode Island FC attacker. Leo, welcome

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to the show. Hey, Matt. Thank you for having

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me. Really appreciate it. The pleasure is all

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mine. I look forward to these moments more than

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just about anything because it allows us, it

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allows listeners to get a sneak peek behind the

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scenes and understand who's the human inside

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that jersey, you know, more than just the number,

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more than the statistics, who is that person

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on an individual level. So I want to start things

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off and kind of get people set on a baseline.

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My favorite conversation that we've had so far

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is actually the very first one and I'll never

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forget it because a reporter came up to you and

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started assuming that you spoke Spanish. You

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then fired back that you spoke Portuguese and

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then they assumed that you were from Portugal.

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it was very evident in that very first, let's

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call it meet and greet, that you had a very strong

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pride and connection to your Brazilian roots.

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So I want to ask, I know that you're born in

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São Paulo, but I also know then that you moved

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to Florida at a young age. Talk us through those.

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Was it too young? Was it too early for you to

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have Brazilian roots and memories and something

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that came later? Or did you get time down in

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São Paulo to kind of get that early Brazilian

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vibe? Yeah, no. I was born and raised in Brazil

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in São Paulo. I lived there for 14 years. So

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it was, my roots are in Brazil, born and raised

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there. And then I came to the US to Florida when

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I was 14, right during the World Cup was happening

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in Brazil. So I'm still kind of upset at my dad

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about that. But yeah, I have a lot of pride in

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my upbringing and where I'm from. So as a Brazilian

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then what is it like when we talk about the football

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culture because you've seen it here in America

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And it's you know, it's a fourth -tier sport.

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It's adoption. There's there's some fanatics,

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but it hasn't taken a hold of the country Maybe

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this World Cup cycle we could see that but from

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a Brazilian mindset. What is that cultural edge?

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What is that cultural difference if you had to

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compare it when you were growing up in Sao Paulo?

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Yeah football in Brazil is just it's life Uh,

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people have their jobs. They have everything.

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But football is the one thing that everyone has

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equal is like everyone likes the same amount.

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Everyone stops whatever they're doing when their

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team is playing on the weekend and they watch

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the game. Um, it's just our life is around football

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in Brazil outside. Careful about saying football

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is life. You're going to potentially play against

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the Danny Rojas and El Paso locomotive at some

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point in the near future, but you talk about

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it. It grounds you. It's your identity as a kid,

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especially in Brazil. Who were the greats that

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you idolized? Was it Brazilian Nationals at that

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point or was it players in the wide variety of

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leagues across the planet? For me, it was Brazilian

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Nationals. I loved watching Kaka when I was really

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young. Neymar is the biggest in Brazil when I

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was growing up. It's, yeah, Brazilian players

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outside. Are you even allowed to say Kaka as

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he was an Orlando player and you come from Inter

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Miami? Is that still allowed to be said in this

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day and age? I'll allow it. You didn't run into

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him, right? He was already out of MLS when you

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entered. Yeah, he was already out. That's a shame,

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that's a shame. All right, well then, if that's

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being the case, we're talking the national stage,

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at least the national team. What about the local

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teams? What about the leagues within Brazil?

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Is there a team that you are deeply committed

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to in that case? And if so, who is it? Yeah,

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Palmeiras, which luckily I got to play against

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them, the Club World Cup with Miami. So that

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was a pretty cool experience. Just my mom's side,

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or my grandpa, my mom. big Brazilian big Palmeiras

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supporters So that's what I was born into All

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right, and then talking about you know, you're

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in your youth. You're developing your skills

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clearly There's a desire beyond this being a

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casual thing Like you said football is life want

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to talk about youth Academy youth development

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at least starting in the the Sao Paulo community

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aspect of it How did that like I imagine everyone

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down there has insane amounts of talent. How

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do you differentiate yourself in academies down

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in Brazil and especially like in America? And

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I'm sure you probably saw a little bit of this,

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but it was a later age. You know, kids, they

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all want to be the striker. They all want to

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be the one that scores the goals. But then. the

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skills develop, you get to a certain height and

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suddenly you're a defender or a goalkeeper. How

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did you stay on the front foot of being an attacker

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through your youth journey before we even get

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to the collegiate or your time as a professional?

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Yeah, I mean, I always loved scoring goals and

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I was good at it. I played a little bit as a

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10 when I was a little younger, played on the

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left, played on the right side. I played kind

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of every single position you can think of as

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a forward. And I think that really, really helped

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me. Now I have that experience from back then

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and I know how to play multiple positions and

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I think it's Something that maybe more kids should

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try when they're young Explore different positions

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and be versatile because you never know So if

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you coach one day whether it's at the pro level

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or the youth Academy level Is that is that the

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X factor? We need to start talking about is be

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a little experimental and find out where your

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comfort zones are and where you excel Yeah, I

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mean it only gives you more uh in your back pocket

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if you know what i mean it's just if you can

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play on the right and then you go on the left

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and then you can play up top and you can play

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in the midfield it's you're gonna play you're

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just more comfortable in four different positions

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than just one it just opens up your your ability

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to get on the field and play So we're gonna talk

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about your particular skill set and ability a

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little later here But want to get into then the

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transition you come to the United States now

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I didn't know this it sounds like it was at the

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worst time possible in the middle of World Cup

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while it's in Brazil How difficult beyond the

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soccer part was that transition or was it pretty

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seamless coming to the states? It was a little

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difficult. I mean the first three to six months

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I didn't speak English and then But I got lucky

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that my school had a soccer team and I got on

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the team and people were just like, the Brazilian

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kid doesn't speak in English, but you can play

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soccer. So people immediately started asking

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me questions and being intrigued about who I

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was and where I'm from. So after those three

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to six months, I'd say it was an easy transition.

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Does the skill set that you had And the fact

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that you were Brazilian put a target on you as

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you're trying to kind of grow your brand within

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the youth systems. Like, does everyone go, oh,

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we got to take the Brazilian out or watch out

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for the Brazilian when it came time to play?

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Yeah, it was always every time I stepped on the

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field. Oh, he's Brazilian, Brazilian, Brazilian

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this Brazilian that does that. Did that make

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you feel included or did that make you feel like,

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all right, I'm going to show you what Brazil

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is all about? I was like, whatever, let's play.

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Fair enough. All right, so then you go, you spend

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time with Boca United and you go then through

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a couple of different academy systems, it looks

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like, beyond that. I found out that you had time

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with the Philadelphia Union and of course, Inter

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Miami, which we'll talk about, not just as the

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academy, but of course then Inter Miami 2 and

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then Inter Miami Senior. When you look at each

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of the stops along your way, did they all offer

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you different pieces of your skill set or was

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it just more refining what you already had as

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you went along your soccer journey? I would say

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it was both. For example, Philadelphia, I went

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to Philadelphia because there was no MLS Academy

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near my house besides Orlando. And Philadelphia

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had a great program with the YSC Academy, which

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is a school for the players. That was always

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something that was important to me and my parents

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was soccer and education. So Philadelphia was

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a good choice for me. And after spending a year

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there, I feel like I developed a lot of that

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hard work mentality, kind of more worked on my

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physical aspect of the game. And then coming

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back to Miami for the Academy was was a great

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feeling because I was coming back home, back

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home to my family. But yeah. In terms of Inter

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Miami's Academy. Was it a net new? Like, we've

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talked to previous players that have been with

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the club where they've been a part of it as an

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expansion program. The senior team may have been

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online for a minute or two, but the Academy is

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always that, like, you start things off and you're

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really designing shape and culture and what you

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want to see come to fruition in three, five,

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and 10 years even. Was it kind of the wild, wild,

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I guess, East, not West at that time as the Academy

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was coming online itself? Yeah. It was a pretty...

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surreal feeling to be playing for a team that

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you knew was gonna be huge in Miami. Like even

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back then, we were training at a college campus

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and there was no first team facilities, there

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was no stadium, but you just had a feeling back

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then that this was gonna be something huge. And

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to be a part of that since day one is something

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I take a lot of pride in and very happy about.

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You weren't training at Pitbull Stadium back

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in the day, were you? No, we were in Broward

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College. It was a college before. Because that

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would have been ironic since now, you know, Miami

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FC and whatnot. Having talked about that then,

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I want to ask, you know, Miami is the last stop

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for you in the Academy element of your development.

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How important were those final instances before

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you then go off for the University of Virginia.

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And there's a little bit of going between, right?

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There's a little bit of reshuffling there. But

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how important were those Academy moments to prep

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you for your time at the University of Virginia?

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It was a great experience. I mean, you're traveling

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and you're living the life of a young pro at

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that point. U -19 level, it's pretty high competitive.

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It gave me the opportunity to play against people

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from all over the U .S. So it helped me a lot

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develop, I think. As a Brazilian, knowing that

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you had already seen a version of the system

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at your time in Brazil coming in where, you know,

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as Americans, we introduced this collegiate programming

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instead of having just dedicated academies that

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get you all the way to, you know, the moment

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of trial by fire, if you will. Was it a was it

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an interesting conversion to watch? this go from

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a structure that you were already familiar with

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into this brand new idea of college soccer? Yeah,

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I mean, for me, it was always it was the weirdest

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thing was the short season that we had in college.

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But for me, it was always just about playing.

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And I love the sport and I just anywhere I could

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play out play. So going into college for me was

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no different. I went in with the same mindset

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as I was still in a young pro academy to doing

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the same thing in college. So. wasn't that bad

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of a transition outside. What are your thoughts

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on the NCAA expanding it to a longer format?

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I think that just actually got announced a couple

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of weeks ago. Is that going to be good for the

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players in the game, or do you see adjustments

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that could maybe change or at least redirect

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the attitudes and mindsets of college players

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today? Yeah, I saw that. I think the biggest

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issue colleges are going to face, like for example,

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Virginia, we shared the stadium with the lacrosse

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team, which their season's in the spring. So

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kind of be interesting to see how that dynamic

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is gonna work, but I think it's fantastic for

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players that want to play the next level. If

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I could go back in college and we played a year

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round, I would love that. I mean, yeah, I think

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the USL2 system's probably the most at risk right

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now because that was kind of the offset. Did

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you ever get time with the USL2 team? I know

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a lot of your colleagues on the squad have, like,

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they played Flint City, but did you ever get

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a chance at a USL2 look or wasn't part of your

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journey? No, I didn't play us L2 I usually every

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summer I would come home from from college and

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I would go train with Miami second team I was

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close to the coach at the time and he was like

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hey Leo you want to come train? So it was a great

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way to stay fit and keep my name at the door

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No, that's that's incredible. So want to kind

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of finish off here on your time with your Virginia

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career 22 goals Is there a moment in there that

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stands out? I talked to Omidy last week, and

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he reminded me that his favorite moment of his

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life was putting Nick Scardina in a very sad

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state in a final, a championship final. Do you

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have a goal? Do you have a moment at your time

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with the University of Virginia that rises above

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all others? I have two moments. I'll do one,

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which is mine. I think I scored, I can't remember

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which game it was, but I think it was my third

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year in college. I scored against Syracuse and

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I think they were unbeaten at the time. We were

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ranked number one and we scored in the last five

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minutes. So I think that's my favorite goal in

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college. Then my second moment was when I played

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against Hamadi and he got a red card against

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us. Do you so how many tells us all the time

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that he reminds Nick on a constant basis? Do

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you ever go into the well? And if you need to

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check Omidy in any way, do you just remind him

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of that moment? Yeah, we talk about a couple

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of times a week No love lost when you're on the

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wrong side of the competition Well, we got to

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go to break and when we return we've got more

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with Leo Afonso all here on the raising anchor

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Soccer Show on 990 WBOB with Matt Entrickett

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and Jason Carey. All right here with Rhode Island

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FC attacker Leo Afonso Leo We just finished talking

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in the first segment all the way up through your

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time at University of Virginia But I want to

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take a step back now and kind of look back at

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everything you have done up until this moment

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a lot of the times People or players will tell

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me it's certain individuals. It's certain moments

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that shaped their soccer career It shaped their

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personality. It shaped their mentality if you

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had to give homage to you know, the three most

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important people that helped you along to be

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the player you are today. Who are we giving flowers

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to? Oh, and by the way, your mother and father,

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when I met them, told me that if you don't answer

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them, they're going to have strong words with

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you. So be careful here. I was going there. My

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parents, my dad always helped me train, taught

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me a lot of things. So my dad, for sure, number

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one. I think my coach when I was at Miami Academy,

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Darren Powell. I think he's at Nashville now.

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He was very high on how I played and always helped

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me and looked to give me advice. And yeah. And

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then I think my coach at UVA also, he was George

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Gionovach, was a big influential in my career

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growth. If you had to quote them, what's the

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most profound thing you remember them telling

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you? Not to put you on the spot. I can't remember

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exactly one thing they said, but they always

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told me to keep working hard and keep my head

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down and everything else will happen. Fair enough.

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I want to then get into a little bit more about

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your leadership. So something that I don't think

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fans necessarily know is that at that time at

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the University of Virginia, you were both a captain

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and leader for the program. We're going to talk

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at length about Inter Miami and now here at Rhode

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Island in your first year. Do the qualities of

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being a leader, do they go away when you aren't

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wearing the armband? And if not, and I think

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they don't, but want to hear it from you, how

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do you make sure that in those moments you do

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step up as a leader when you're supposed to,

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and then when there's another captain on the

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squad on the field, how do you make sure that

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you differentiate so that that person can be

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a leader in their own way? Yeah, I think there's

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different types of leaders in every aspect of

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life. I'm more of a Not gonna see me talking

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too much, but I'll show my actions. I'm kind

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of like Look, this is how you do it So sometimes

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you're seeing games. I'm not talking much. I'm

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not yelling much but I'm Doing everything I can

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my head's down and I'm working hard So I think

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that's my best leadership skill And I also think

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sometimes captains and people, they see one thing

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and someone else sees something a different way.

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So if you always have open floor to put your

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input and things, and sometimes if our captain

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misses something, then I'll tune in and say something.

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I love that. Wanted to now talk you through college.

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It's the MLS Superdraft. And this is probably

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the most common question I ask every player that's

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gone through it is that some players will say

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that they didn't know where they were going,

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they didn't know if they were going anywhere,

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and others have told me that coaches are having

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conversations, agents are setting things up behind

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the scenes, and maybe the draft pick number is

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not what they thought, but it's the intended

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result at the end. Want to walk through your

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super draft, you return to Inner Miami, what

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was that like? Was it expected? Because you just

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said a second ago you already had such a great

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standing relationship during the summers with

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the Inner Miami Academy system. Was it kind of

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a known variant that you were going to be going

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back to in Miami? To be honest, no, I had no

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idea. My senior year in college, I got hurt.

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I had a high ankle sprain, so I was out for I

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think I played four games, five games that season,

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which is the most important season. And if you

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want to get drafted, so I didn't have any expectations

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going into the draft. And after the round one

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finished, I remember turning my TV off at home

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and I was like, I'm not watching this anymore.

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I can't. And I go up and I'm taking a shower

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and my mom comes banging on my room door and

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she's like, Leo, Leo Miami picked you. And yeah,

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after that, it was just crazy. Just a dream.

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Want to talk about the injury for a second. I

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know that you missed a lot of the season. And

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when you know that that's something that could

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have potentially set you back, but you have to

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get back into it. What is the mental reset look

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like in those critical moments? Because it. I

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feel like it can be incredibly disparaging and

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devastating and understand it can be like, hey,

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I want to prove to myself that I can rise above

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this. How do you go through that, especially

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when there's that much at stake? Well, it was

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it was pretty hard. I'm not going to lie. Like

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I thought I was like, this is done. I'm not going

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to get picked on the draft. Like everything I

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did this past three years is gone. But I got

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lucky when I came back and I played a few good

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games and scored and. everything ended up working

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out. But I think just when the pressure is on,

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that's when you really know yourself. So I think

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that's the biggest thing I live by. When you're

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injured and you're in rehab, do you constantly

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relive that moment where the injury happened

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or do you try not to think about it and just

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focus on getting healthy, getting back to 100

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% like for me, I feel like that's that moment

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where I'd be like, all right, if I hadn't done

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this or if I just position myself in a different

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way. maybe things would have been different.

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Do you live in that moment for an extended period

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of time? Yeah. So I had to wear a cast, I think,

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for about a month. I was on crutches for two

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weeks. And I think those two weeks on crutches,

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I was rewatching the play and I was like, oh,

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come on, don't do it. What are you doing? But

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then once I got off the crutches, I was like,

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oh, OK. Just constantly looking. It's like an

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out -of -body experience almost at that point.

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All right. Then let's get into Inter Miami, specifically

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starting here with Inter Miami 2. want to ask

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how good did it feel that Inner Miami first selected

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you and then knowing that you kind of already

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have a leg up where at least you know some of

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the technical staff, some of the administration,

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did it feel like this was the only place you

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could have landed because of all of the relationships

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you had already built earlier in your career?

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Yeah, so when I got there it was I think three,

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four months after Messi or no, Messi got there

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in June. It was after Messi got there. So they

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changed the whole staff and I didn't know any

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one of the club. So that's why I was a little

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surprised. Wait, I thought they only changed

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like the senior technical coaching staff. Are

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you like they cleaned house all the way down

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to the Academy? I'm not sure about the Academy,

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but the second team staff was was different than

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when I was there. Fede Higuain was the coach

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when I got there and I think He might have been

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there one summer when I went to train. I can't

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really remember. But yeah, they changed. They

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changed a lot of people. So that doesn't give

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you any leg up. It sounds like it resets it for

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everybody. I'll switch the question around then.

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How do you differentiate yourself in an early

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marking? I know in your early time with two,

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you scored four goals in your first, I think

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it was two matches. Yeah. Did that just kind

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of give you the catapult? I know there's a couple

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of things we'll talk about around like these

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temporary loans that you had assigned to you.

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But did that just give you the ammunition to

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propel yourself amongst the top ranks within

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Inter Miami 2 at the time? Yeah, I mean, I think

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it was kind of the same mindset of my last three

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games in college that I was like, I have to score

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if I want to get drafted. So I went into preseason.

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I was like, I'm just I'm going to do my best

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and see what happens. Didn't expect much from

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it. Went in with the goal and and yeah, I got

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got lucky some will say that I scored a lot of

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goals in the beginning and yeah When does a player

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in the two system or the reserve side? When do

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you feel comfortable enough to say that you belong?

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Is it only until you get that senior contract

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because you're fighting for every goal, every

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minute, every look to eventually advance? Or

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is there a moment where you can still feel comfortable

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enough to say, like, I belong here now on this

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team? I'm not sure. For me, my goal is always

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to be on the first team and to get playing time

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and to be regular playing time. So when I was

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in the twos, this is just a warm up for when

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I get to the senior team. a speed bump along

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the way. Want to talk about the senior team and

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specifically your debut, top three moment in

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your life. How was it? Could you describe, could

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you walk us through the experience of being able

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to play for Inter Miami first team? Yes. So I

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remember when I made my debut, it was, um, we

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played rebels away. Um, and I remember the game

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was like, I think on a Saturday they told me

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Thursday, Oh, you're traveling with the, with

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the senior team. We had some guys on international

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duty and I was like, Oh, okay. Like I'll be on

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the bench. Like this is super cool. Uh, and they're

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like, Oh, and Sunday, like you play with the

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second team there too. Cause they were in, um,

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they were in Jersey as well. Um, and we went

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to the game and I remember, I think it was 70

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minutes in that that calls me over and he's like,

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Leo, you're going in. I was like, Oh, I trained

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with these guys for like two days. Uh, I was

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like, okay, let's see. and I went in and I played

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a good game and then after that it was just everything

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happened really fast. If you have to go back

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to that moment especially away because players

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have told me the debut away is different from

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a debut at home like your first is always your

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first. What was that sight? What was that smell?

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What was that one thing that stood out amongst

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all of the different things going on as you find

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out that you're going to take the pitch? I think

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you just think back to everything you've done

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and it gives you confidence to to step in the

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field and once I stepped in you kind of forget

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everything else that's going on and it's just

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a game. You're just playing 11 versus 11 and

00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:03.779
you're running around and it's all that matters

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at that moment. All right well we're going to

00:25:06.339 --> 00:25:08.980
talk more Inter Miami FC, the rest of your MLS

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time so far and of course everything with Island

00:25:11.700 --> 00:25:14.619
FC when we get back but we've got to go to break

00:25:14.619 --> 00:25:20.430
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let's get back to the Racing Anchor Soccer Show

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on 990 WBOB with Matt Entrickett and Jason Carey.

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Here with Rhode Island FC attacker Leo Afonso

00:25:47.460 --> 00:25:50.299
as we are going through his soccer journey his

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soccer life and The last segment we pick up from

00:25:53.220 --> 00:25:56.480
his time at Inter Miami Leo I want to make this

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show about you But I would be doing a disservice

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:01.880
to fans across the world if we didn't bring up

00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:04.859
a certain player Maybe a certain set of players

00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:08.740
at your time down in Inter Miami Want to ask

00:26:08.740 --> 00:26:11.140
you first question. There's there's these signings

00:26:11.140 --> 00:26:15.670
that happen how do you go from coming from Inter

00:26:15.670 --> 00:26:18.490
Miami 2 to now signing and playing in the first

00:26:18.490 --> 00:26:20.650
team where there are all these legends that show

00:26:20.650 --> 00:26:25.390
up like Lionel Messi, Busquets, Alba, Suarez,

00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:28.289
how do you go from that surreal moment and now

00:26:28.289 --> 00:26:30.329
you're playing on the pitch alongside these individuals?

00:26:31.730 --> 00:26:34.730
Yeah, I mean, I think anyone that says that it's

00:26:34.730 --> 00:26:36.490
not intimidating in the beginning, they'll be

00:26:36.490 --> 00:26:39.009
lying. In the beginning, I was a little intimidated,

00:26:39.009 --> 00:26:42.950
but they're really good guys and they just Busquets,

00:26:43.130 --> 00:26:44.869
Jordy, they took me under their wing a little

00:26:44.869 --> 00:26:48.809
bit and just show me that it's okay to make mistakes

00:26:48.809 --> 00:26:51.970
and it's okay to try your things and give you

00:26:51.970 --> 00:26:54.269
tips here and there. And watching these guys

00:26:54.269 --> 00:26:59.750
train every day, you just see firsthand how good

00:26:59.750 --> 00:27:02.170
they are and how high their level is. So you

00:27:02.170 --> 00:27:06.339
learn a lot. Does their soccer IQ do their abilities

00:27:06.339 --> 00:27:08.579
and skills does it transfer pretty seamlessly

00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:11.440
like would you say arguably that you became a

00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.299
much better player by playing with them or were

00:27:14.299 --> 00:27:17.759
they at a place that It's almost like there's

00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.859
a distance. There's a distance between the skill

00:27:19.859 --> 00:27:21.700
sets and I'm not insulting you or anyone but

00:27:21.700 --> 00:27:24.619
obviously players are at one level or another

00:27:24.619 --> 00:27:27.839
do you quickly elevate your own game to players

00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.779
like that or is it just like Okay, what whatever

00:27:30.779 --> 00:27:32.640
I can learn from you in the time I get to be

00:27:32.640 --> 00:27:35.240
around you. That's that's all it's gonna be Yeah,

00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.500
I mean being around those guys that elevate to

00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:40.660
100 % just because you see how well they're doing

00:27:40.660 --> 00:27:42.960
things and you're like, okay I have to do it

00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:47.059
try to do it as well as they are Or when you

00:27:47.059 --> 00:27:49.059
know exactly where Messi's gonna put the ball

00:27:49.059 --> 00:27:51.019
when when he gets it in this spot of the field

00:27:51.019 --> 00:27:52.420
You're like I'm gonna run here because I know

00:27:52.420 --> 00:27:55.519
he's gonna put it there where Jordy, he's crossing

00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.400
the ball, he likes to cross it back. So you're

00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.339
like, I'm going to position myself here because

00:27:59.339 --> 00:28:02.400
I know he's going to play that ball. So I think

00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:04.740
the biggest thing playing with them that I learned

00:28:04.740 --> 00:28:09.019
was just being one step ahead of everyone else.

00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:13.759
Yeah. Has it made your life significantly more

00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.019
difficult when you don't have the level of service?

00:28:16.299 --> 00:28:18.559
or the defenders behind you so that you can be

00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.359
a little braver. You can take on more risk. Has

00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.200
it changed the way you've played your game? Because

00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.819
once you've played with that level, you get a

00:28:24.819 --> 00:28:27.579
taste for it, right? Obviously, Atlanta, Rhode

00:28:27.579 --> 00:28:29.700
Island, I see no disrespect again, but they're

00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:32.140
not going to offer necessarily the same level

00:28:32.140 --> 00:28:34.859
of skill. Is it almost like you've seen the best

00:28:34.859 --> 00:28:36.680
and you might not ever get to see that again

00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:40.680
in terms of teammates? Yeah. I mean, when you're

00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.880
speaking about arguably one of the best in history,

00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:47.230
So, when you have Messi playing you through balls

00:28:47.230 --> 00:28:49.490
or Jordi Alba playing you through balls, it's

00:28:49.490 --> 00:28:53.349
definitely a lot higher level than other teammates.

00:28:53.490 --> 00:28:56.210
No disrespect to any teammate. Of course, of

00:28:56.210 --> 00:28:58.349
course. I think Clay Holstead will agree. He's,

00:28:58.349 --> 00:29:01.390
you know, he's no Bousquets. But we can ask him.

00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:06.740
I do want to ask one final question though about

00:29:06.740 --> 00:29:10.339
Messi alongside you. We made the joke when you

00:29:10.339 --> 00:29:12.940
first got announced that we were getting a Leo

00:29:12.940 --> 00:29:17.039
from Inner Miami. There's two Leos on this team.

00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.779
What was the name differentiation during practices

00:29:19.779 --> 00:29:22.359
or even on the pitch? Were you both just allowed

00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.980
to be Leo or how did it work out? This is actually

00:29:25.980 --> 00:29:28.960
funny. So there was three Leos when we were at

00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.480
Miami. Oh, Campagna. Leo Campana, Leo Messi and

00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:37.019
me. And then it was Leo, it was Messi. Campana

00:29:37.019 --> 00:29:39.319
was, they called him Campana and me was Afonso.

00:29:39.420 --> 00:29:42.019
Afonso, Afonso. But it was funny because they

00:29:42.019 --> 00:29:43.480
would say Leo and then all three of us would

00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:47.720
look at each other like, who is it? Oh, I love

00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.740
that. I want to end things in Miami before you

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:55.380
get traded onto Atlanta. Is there a key moment

00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:59.400
that's just, you know, is the is the core memory

00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:01.000
you'll have. Maybe it's something on the pitch.

00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:02.920
Maybe it's something off the pitch. I feel like

00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.019
it's going to be that incredible goal you scored,

00:30:05.019 --> 00:30:08.039
but I want to ask and let you you do the talking

00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:10.000
here. What is that key moment for you at your

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:12.880
time with Inter Miami? I would say I would say

00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.819
that Philly goal against Philadelphia. It was

00:30:15.819 --> 00:30:19.039
just two men down. I don't know 10 minutes left.

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.619
It was just crazy stuff. I think that was a top

00:30:22.619 --> 00:30:25.859
10 Sports Center moment for her. I want to say

00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:28.579
it was almost a contender for year. of the like

00:30:28.579 --> 00:30:31.220
the top year moment as well. That was an incredible,

00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.059
incredible goal. How did you feel after that

00:30:33.059 --> 00:30:34.660
game, knowing what you accomplished on the night?

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:36.900
It was pretty crazy because the game ended and

00:30:36.900 --> 00:30:40.740
I was like, oh, OK, whatever we won. And then

00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:42.740
talking to people on the field and then I go

00:30:42.740 --> 00:30:44.480
into the locker room, I call my parents, I call

00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.980
my girlfriend. I just scored. And they're like,

00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:50.839
yeah, we know it's all over the Internet. I'm

00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:52.700
like, oh, I haven't even checked. I'm not a big

00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:56.460
Instagram guy or Twitter. I'm just I'm like,

00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.470
whatever. So you're on this high, you're doing

00:31:02.470 --> 00:31:05.069
all the things you're supposed to do as a left

00:31:05.069 --> 00:31:09.049
winger, an inverted winger. And then you get

00:31:09.049 --> 00:31:10.849
the call and you find out you're getting traded

00:31:10.849 --> 00:31:13.869
to Atlanta United. How devastating was it to

00:31:13.869 --> 00:31:16.289
know that you were working hard for this level

00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:18.369
of success? You're being integrated in this team.

00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:21.690
Miami's doing well at the time. And you find

00:31:21.690 --> 00:31:24.190
out that your services are being sent to Atlanta.

00:31:24.609 --> 00:31:26.690
What's the honest emotional reaction as a human

00:31:26.690 --> 00:31:28.529
being that you have to go through knowing that

00:31:28.529 --> 00:31:33.490
your time in Florida is over? For me, it wasn't

00:31:33.490 --> 00:31:35.990
too bad. I mean, I was more sad that I was leaving

00:31:35.990 --> 00:31:38.509
home. I actually asked for the trade because

00:31:38.509 --> 00:31:41.410
I wanted to play more. I wasn't getting a lot

00:31:41.410 --> 00:31:43.250
of minutes, so I asked for the trade to Atlanta

00:31:43.250 --> 00:31:46.109
and I need the GM over there, Chris Henderson,

00:31:46.589 --> 00:31:52.349
because he was at Miami before. So it was It

00:31:52.349 --> 00:31:54.690
was sad leaving and wishing things could have

00:31:54.690 --> 00:31:57.089
been different, but I was happy to try a new

00:31:57.089 --> 00:31:59.250
adventure and see what else was out there for

00:31:59.250 --> 00:32:01.869
me. What did your experience in your time with

00:32:01.869 --> 00:32:06.430
Atlanta give to you? Obviously, not as many probably

00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:08.069
touches that I think you would have wanted, especially

00:32:08.069 --> 00:32:10.029
coming off of some of the success that you saw

00:32:10.029 --> 00:32:12.990
with Inter. Did you get what you wanted to out

00:32:12.990 --> 00:32:15.369
of that journey in that time, or what were those

00:32:15.369 --> 00:32:18.230
lasting impressions with Atlanta? Yeah, I mean,

00:32:18.289 --> 00:32:21.319
it was... quick. I was there for, I think, only

00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.200
three months of the season. Did not get what

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.920
I expected, but that's life. You never get everything

00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:33.720
you want and hope for. So, yeah. Do you equivalent

00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:36.539
that as the resiliency similar to an injury or

00:32:36.539 --> 00:32:39.200
a setback of that kind? Obviously, those are

00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.339
moments that are unpredictable. How do you walk

00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:45.200
through that when you're trying to put your brand

00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.900
out there, develop yourself? How do you adjust

00:32:47.900 --> 00:32:51.339
to those kinds of circumstances? You just you

00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:53.920
just have to keep going on about life and just

00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.480
do your best every day and Whatever happens happens.

00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.519
You can't really control it. You can control

00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.579
the work you put in every day. You can control

00:33:01.579 --> 00:33:05.519
how you react to things So yeah, I think just

00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:08.480
moving on and keep doing what you're doing and

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:11.099
Things will work out. We'll talk about Rhode

00:33:11.099 --> 00:33:13.460
Island here in a second. But looking at this

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:17.970
moment you're in MLS do you still think about

00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:21.329
where that ceiling is for you? Obviously, we're

00:33:21.329 --> 00:33:23.829
going to talk about now in championship play,

00:33:24.289 --> 00:33:26.650
but you've played amongst the best. You've been

00:33:26.650 --> 00:33:29.230
one of the best in that group. When you look

00:33:29.230 --> 00:33:31.509
at the ceiling for yourself and you specifically

00:33:31.509 --> 00:33:34.470
focus on MLS for a second, is there more in that

00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:37.329
story that you want to go after? Is there more

00:33:37.329 --> 00:33:39.849
to be said about your time and your impact that

00:33:39.849 --> 00:33:42.769
you left in Major League Soccer? Yeah, I mean,

00:33:42.769 --> 00:33:47.869
I think I think things are not finished with

00:33:47.869 --> 00:33:50.670
MLS. I think my biggest goal coming here was

00:33:50.670 --> 00:33:55.069
to being in a team that has a clear identity,

00:33:55.150 --> 00:33:58.170
a team that has a good setup, that wants to win,

00:33:59.049 --> 00:34:02.190
has a great fan base, the coaches have a vision,

00:34:02.789 --> 00:34:05.650
everyone here has a vision and aspire for more.

00:34:06.450 --> 00:34:09.190
So I think coming here was a good move for my

00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:13.440
career and we'll see what else happens. All right.

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.059
Well, we're going to go to our final break and

00:34:15.059 --> 00:34:17.079
when we return, we're going to talk all things

00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.559
Rhode Island FC. Don't go anywhere. It's the

00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:21.760
Raising Anchor Soccer Show. Now let's get back

00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:25.519
to the Raising Anchor Soccer Show on 990 WBOB

00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.750
with Matt Entrickett and Jason Carey. All right

00:34:29.750 --> 00:34:32.550
here with Rhode Island F .C. attacker Leo Afonso

00:34:32.550 --> 00:34:34.570
and we're getting to the most important part

00:34:34.570 --> 00:34:37.150
where listeners want to know and that's everything

00:34:37.150 --> 00:34:40.210
about you joining the amber and blue. So I want

00:34:40.210 --> 00:34:42.210
to ask you know we learned in the last segment

00:34:42.210 --> 00:34:44.889
that you had initiated the transfer to Atlanta.

00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:47.809
How did you get connected with Rhode Island F

00:34:47.809 --> 00:34:50.429
.C. as a club and what's the origin story that

00:34:50.429 --> 00:34:56.699
got you here playing in the Ocean State? Let's

00:34:56.699 --> 00:34:59.380
see. So my agent is friends with Kano. He knows

00:34:59.380 --> 00:35:03.159
Kano well and I actually met Kano at the MLS

00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:04.880
Cup final. I was there for that game and Kano

00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.099
was there too. So I spoke to him for a little

00:35:07.099 --> 00:35:11.039
bit briefly and he expressed his interest and

00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.699
yeah, things from there just took a good path

00:35:14.699 --> 00:35:17.480
and I like the vision that he had, that the team

00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.699
had, the club had. So here I am. I want to talk

00:35:21.699 --> 00:35:23.920
a little bit about the vision and the opportunity.

00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:26.320
You know, when you get to Rhode Island, and I

00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:28.400
know that the first moments that we met, it was

00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.840
training in that offsite indoor facility. It

00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.519
wasn't necessarily yet in Centerville Bank Stadium,

00:35:33.579 --> 00:35:35.820
especially in front of fans. But what were those

00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:38.880
initial impressions and opportunities that kind

00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.099
of exposed themselves to you as you started to

00:35:41.099 --> 00:35:43.019
really digest Rhode Island FC after you had signed

00:35:43.019 --> 00:35:47.619
with us? Yeah, I mean, I already knew all about

00:35:47.619 --> 00:35:50.920
the setup. I knew the stadium, the fans. It was

00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.480
an environment I wanted to be in, an environment

00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:57.280
I felt like I could grow, apply a lot of things

00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.539
that I learned over my two years in MLS. But

00:36:01.539 --> 00:36:05.280
yeah, the snow I was not prepared for, the climate

00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:09.820
change. It doesn't snow in Sao Paulo? No, in

00:36:09.820 --> 00:36:14.639
Florida, neither. You talk about the environment,

00:36:14.699 --> 00:36:17.550
you talk about the conditions. Rhode Island FC

00:36:17.550 --> 00:36:19.329
is considered one of the crown jewels in the

00:36:19.329 --> 00:36:21.650
league right now, both because it's a newer team,

00:36:21.650 --> 00:36:24.150
but also there's just a really strong implementation

00:36:24.150 --> 00:36:27.869
and investment around facilities, amenities,

00:36:28.190 --> 00:36:30.989
culture, everything. You've now played enough

00:36:30.989 --> 00:36:33.070
games across the league that you've seen other

00:36:33.070 --> 00:36:37.110
teams. If Rhode Island hadn't been a destination

00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:39.010
for you, could you have seen yourself going to

00:36:39.010 --> 00:36:41.130
one of these other organizations that, you know,

00:36:41.150 --> 00:36:43.730
like, we can talk about Hearts of Pine, no disrespect,

00:36:43.789 --> 00:36:46.349
but they play on a track field. And I think you

00:36:46.349 --> 00:36:48.710
guys were changing in cargo containers on that

00:36:48.710 --> 00:36:51.630
weekend. So when you look at what that is for

00:36:51.630 --> 00:36:53.550
Rhode Island, how critical is it for a player

00:36:53.550 --> 00:36:56.409
of your caliber to see those amenities, to see

00:36:56.409 --> 00:36:59.090
that investment in the resourcing of player development?

00:36:59.510 --> 00:37:03.329
And is it just a must for you? For me, yes. I

00:37:03.329 --> 00:37:05.949
mean, I like to be in the gym. I take recovery

00:37:05.949 --> 00:37:09.429
serious. There's a lot of things that needs to

00:37:09.429 --> 00:37:11.409
be at a high level for you to perform at a high

00:37:11.409 --> 00:37:15.420
level. So having those. resources. It's something

00:37:15.420 --> 00:37:19.639
I don't really negotiate on. If the team doesn't

00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.239
have a good setup, then I can't perform my best

00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.789
and that's not in my best interest. Speaking

00:37:25.789 --> 00:37:28.250
of your best, when I first met you, I asked you

00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:30.050
if you had had an early identity. I think you

00:37:30.050 --> 00:37:32.829
were week two into your time with Rhode Island.

00:37:33.050 --> 00:37:34.849
I had seen like, hey, you know, are you going

00:37:34.849 --> 00:37:36.590
to be someone that is implemented on the left

00:37:36.590 --> 00:37:38.909
wing? At the time, we didn't know who our right

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:41.409
winger solution would be. And you said, you know,

00:37:41.409 --> 00:37:43.809
I'll play wherever coach wants me to play, but

00:37:43.809 --> 00:37:46.869
I prefer the left. I know that rings true, but

00:37:46.869 --> 00:37:49.449
did Kano give you that sense of knowing where

00:37:49.449 --> 00:37:52.119
you would be in this organization? from the get

00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:54.320
go or was that something you had to earn? Because

00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.380
I have a theory that between you and Aldair,

00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.420
you forced Jojaya to have to go outright because

00:37:59.420 --> 00:38:01.480
it was something he had not done primarily up

00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:04.099
until this third season with the club. So did

00:38:04.099 --> 00:38:06.000
you prove your case that you were the one that

00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.519
was going to be on the left side or was there

00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.420
ever a moment where you could have been playing

00:38:09.420 --> 00:38:12.039
the opposite side, similar to kind of what Jojaya

00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.619
has now on the other side? Yeah, I mean, I think

00:38:15.619 --> 00:38:18.300
I came in a preseason. I was working in the off

00:38:18.300 --> 00:38:21.809
season, working hard, and I came in fed. And

00:38:21.809 --> 00:38:24.409
I just, I think I showed something that he liked

00:38:24.409 --> 00:38:27.690
and yeah, that's where he put me. And like I

00:38:27.690 --> 00:38:29.929
said, I'll play anywhere the team needs me to.

00:38:30.750 --> 00:38:32.869
I mean, Clay can be our backup goalkeeper. Maybe

00:38:32.869 --> 00:38:34.909
you might have something in the cards to do it

00:38:34.909 --> 00:38:37.769
as well. How good are you with your hands? I

00:38:37.769 --> 00:38:40.989
would need a Peter Czech helmet to protect my

00:38:40.989 --> 00:38:43.469
head now. Especially right now. Listen, I wasn't

00:38:43.469 --> 00:38:45.309
going to bring it up, but I mean, people are

00:38:45.309 --> 00:38:46.630
going to watch this and they're going to be like,

00:38:46.730 --> 00:38:50.789
what happened? Yeah, you have to. do you want

00:38:50.789 --> 00:38:52.409
to go into details or do you want to leave it

00:38:52.409 --> 00:38:54.630
mysterious as to the battle wound that you have

00:38:54.630 --> 00:38:56.989
uh currently on screen right now as we're as

00:38:56.989 --> 00:39:00.130
we're recording this it have been a work work

00:39:00.130 --> 00:39:03.710
incident well i guess it's a good thing the the

00:39:03.710 --> 00:39:06.969
uslpa renegotiated their health insurance contract

00:39:06.969 --> 00:39:11.670
it couldn't have come at a better time So I want

00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:14.510
to get into the conversations about the workplace.

00:39:14.710 --> 00:39:17.570
I want to first ask the locker room, the environment

00:39:17.570 --> 00:39:20.889
right now. We know we've had conversations that

00:39:20.889 --> 00:39:23.130
you've got a friendship, an existing friendship

00:39:23.130 --> 00:39:26.250
with Frank Nodarse. I want to ask, how have you

00:39:26.250 --> 00:39:28.230
gelled with the rest of the team? Who have been

00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:30.090
the go -to guys that have taken you under their

00:39:30.090 --> 00:39:32.690
wing? Or maybe you've taken them under your wing

00:39:32.690 --> 00:39:34.469
as you've come in and integrated with this team.

00:39:35.530 --> 00:39:38.170
Yeah, I mean, I think this is probably one of

00:39:38.170 --> 00:39:42.389
the best locker rooms in terms of um the vibes

00:39:42.389 --> 00:39:46.530
and how everyone is uh i think we everyone bonds

00:39:46.530 --> 00:39:50.389
really well together um but a couple of guys

00:39:50.389 --> 00:39:53.230
that i i came in and i think frank for sure because

00:39:53.230 --> 00:39:58.530
i already know him uh jacob um trying to think

00:39:58.530 --> 00:40:00.550
who else how many i'm always joking around with

00:40:00.550 --> 00:40:06.110
them uh our our head kit manager is nick from

00:40:06.110 --> 00:40:08.369
brazil so i'm always messing around with them

00:40:08.369 --> 00:40:11.260
too and Yeah, everyone in the locker room is

00:40:11.260 --> 00:40:15.260
good vibes and good people. We have a lot of

00:40:15.260 --> 00:40:17.460
different cultures and ethnicities as a melting

00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:19.460
pot, specifically in Pawtucket, but around the

00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:22.039
greater Rhode Island area. Have you found places

00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.800
that can remind you of home? We could say Florida

00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.280
or we could say Brazil. I know of a few places

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.860
to grab a bite that are Brazilian, but have you

00:40:29.860 --> 00:40:32.380
found niches to carve out so that even when it

00:40:32.380 --> 00:40:35.300
is 10 degrees and freezing or snowing, you can

00:40:35.300 --> 00:40:36.760
find a little piece of home when you need it?

00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:41.260
Yeah, my parents always send me a little sweet

00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:45.800
treat for here and then from Brazil, so I have

00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.500
that. There's a Portuguese restaurant I went

00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:51.519
to. I can't remember the name, but that's a place

00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:57.260
I really like. But yeah. Are there things now

00:40:57.260 --> 00:40:59.079
as the weather's getting warmer, we're now into

00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.440
the heat, are there things that you're excited

00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.079
to get to do on the off days, whether it's sights,

00:41:04.340 --> 00:41:05.780
bites, experiences, is there anything you're

00:41:05.780 --> 00:41:07.400
looking forward to more as you don't have to

00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.619
deal with the cold for at least the next four

00:41:09.619 --> 00:41:13.900
-ish months? Yeah, I went to the beach last week

00:41:13.900 --> 00:41:16.059
with my girlfriend and my dog and I almost got

00:41:16.059 --> 00:41:18.989
third degree burns, so that's how I know. That's

00:41:18.989 --> 00:41:23.230
how I know I need more sun. Trump, sunburns.

00:41:23.530 --> 00:41:25.489
Leo, we gotta take care of you. We need you for

00:41:25.489 --> 00:41:30.329
the rest of the season. Yeah. Wanna talk about

00:41:30.329 --> 00:41:32.710
your performance on the pitch, your contribution

00:41:32.710 --> 00:41:35.539
to this team. you've had some of the highest

00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:38.940
shots this year in the across the league not

00:41:38.940 --> 00:41:41.280
always necessarily converting to goals but the

00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.619
attack is building up in ways that fans of this

00:41:43.619 --> 00:41:47.260
club have not seen ever right we've been historically

00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:49.780
somewhat stingy sometimes on our goal production

00:41:49.780 --> 00:41:52.619
and yet we see something more from this attack

00:41:52.619 --> 00:41:55.420
that's been an exciting promise it hasn't always

00:41:55.420 --> 00:41:57.639
led to multiple scored goals and we've had a

00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.369
couple of nil -nils across the time but As a

00:42:01.369 --> 00:42:03.849
player like yourself that has this high shot

00:42:03.849 --> 00:42:08.429
status, what's the missing click? What's the

00:42:08.429 --> 00:42:10.469
missing thing that you need to start converting

00:42:10.469 --> 00:42:12.869
more goals on the season? Is it an individual

00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.449
moment? Is it just more time playing with the

00:42:15.449 --> 00:42:17.510
team? What is it that's going to separate you

00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:20.889
from being a single goal contributor to a double

00:42:20.889 --> 00:42:22.489
digit goal contributor by the end of the season?

00:42:23.809 --> 00:42:25.969
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of things are going

00:42:25.969 --> 00:42:29.239
to play when you look at Soccer as a whole scoring

00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:32.880
goals is the hardest part of it. I think in the

00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.059
beginning of the season I had a lot of chances,

00:42:35.099 --> 00:42:37.400
but they were kind of half chances. I wouldn't

00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:41.500
say I missed many setters. So I think just having

00:42:41.500 --> 00:42:44.800
better quality service and that's something that

00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.679
we've been getting better at every game. Being

00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.619
a little more patient and taking better shots

00:42:50.619 --> 00:42:53.539
instead of forcing the shot is something I've

00:42:53.539 --> 00:42:56.960
been working on in the past few games. But yeah,

00:42:57.019 --> 00:42:59.199
I think the best is yet to come, and I'm not

00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:02.900
worried about my goals scoring for now. I don't

00:43:02.900 --> 00:43:04.960
think anybody is. We just want to see more and

00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.199
more. Rhode Island is a greedy community, and

00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.159
they just want to see five goals a game. That's

00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.579
not too hard to make happen, right? In terms

00:43:13.579 --> 00:43:15.659
of your time here with Rhode Island, a player

00:43:15.659 --> 00:43:18.800
like you, I think fans are always a bit suspicious

00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.719
that, hey, you come from a level of quality and

00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:24.159
talent. You're clearly playing in a different

00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:27.130
level of soccer now. How long do we have a player

00:43:27.130 --> 00:43:30.389
like Leo Alfonso? And so it almost feels selfish

00:43:30.389 --> 00:43:32.730
to ask, but, you know, what's the what is the

00:43:32.730 --> 00:43:34.469
thing you want the most out of this time with

00:43:34.469 --> 00:43:37.010
Rhode Island, whether it be one season, two seasons,

00:43:37.030 --> 00:43:38.710
or we have you for the rest of your life and

00:43:38.710 --> 00:43:40.309
then we build the statue and you hang up the

00:43:40.309 --> 00:43:44.449
boots? I mean, like I said, everything happens

00:43:44.449 --> 00:43:46.889
the way it's supposed to happen. I'm just focused

00:43:46.889 --> 00:43:49.829
on every week and every weekend week out, focus

00:43:49.829 --> 00:43:51.969
on scoring goals and winning games and doing

00:43:51.969 --> 00:43:53.849
the best I can for the team and the community.

00:43:54.949 --> 00:43:57.210
Are there any personal goals that you can share

00:43:57.210 --> 00:43:59.610
for the season that you want to accomplish? It

00:43:59.610 --> 00:44:01.449
doesn't necessarily have to be a stat line goal.

00:44:01.530 --> 00:44:04.110
Is there just something that you've made a promise

00:44:04.110 --> 00:44:06.610
to yourself that you want to see come true by

00:44:06.610 --> 00:44:10.690
the end of the season? Yeah, I think just keep

00:44:10.690 --> 00:44:14.670
enjoying everything I'm doing today. I get to

00:44:14.670 --> 00:44:17.909
play a sport for a living, so I'm blessed. So

00:44:17.909 --> 00:44:20.369
I think just take every day, day by day and just

00:44:20.369 --> 00:44:22.070
enjoy it, not think about the future and not

00:44:22.070 --> 00:44:25.309
think about other things going on in life. And

00:44:25.309 --> 00:44:27.650
speaking of enjoying things, I would be remiss

00:44:27.650 --> 00:44:30.650
if we didn't bring up the World Cup, especially

00:44:30.650 --> 00:44:33.969
as a Brazilian. How important is it for you to

00:44:33.969 --> 00:44:35.989
feel connected in this Cup? You already talked

00:44:35.989 --> 00:44:38.329
about missing some of it when it was in Brazil.

00:44:39.170 --> 00:44:40.929
How important is it for you to experience it

00:44:40.929 --> 00:44:42.449
here in the United States where you now live?

00:44:43.329 --> 00:44:45.409
Yeah, I think it's going to be great for the

00:44:45.409 --> 00:44:47.389
country. I think it's going to bring a lot more

00:44:47.389 --> 00:44:51.090
awareness to the sport. And I think. If we have

00:44:51.090 --> 00:44:53.690
a game on the day that Brazil plays, maybe I

00:44:53.690 --> 00:44:57.030
have a headache. You're going to pull a Neymar?

00:44:58.030 --> 00:45:00.610
Maybe I'll have a headache. No, I'm joking. But

00:45:00.610 --> 00:45:03.329
yeah, very excited to watch and happy that Neymar

00:45:03.329 --> 00:45:07.170
is on the squad. People are going to remember

00:45:07.170 --> 00:45:09.449
this now. And should you not be fit to play in

00:45:09.449 --> 00:45:15.000
a match, you've seen the deal. Is there anything

00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:18.159
specific that you're going to try to do with

00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:20.599
this World Cup cycle? I know that there's one

00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:22.179
away game that's going to take you, I think,

00:45:22.300 --> 00:45:24.500
down to Virginia. It's Loudon. And then there's

00:45:24.500 --> 00:45:28.360
only one other game at home against Orange County

00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:31.639
around the 4th of July. How much, like, am I

00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:33.099
going to see you at the breweries? Am I going

00:45:33.099 --> 00:45:35.460
to see you at the fan zone? Or are you going

00:45:35.460 --> 00:45:37.059
to be trying to go to some of these stadiums?

00:45:37.059 --> 00:45:39.380
I think Brazil plays and like Philly. What is

00:45:39.380 --> 00:45:41.099
your World Cup experience going to look like

00:45:41.099 --> 00:45:44.590
personally for León Alfonso? I would love to

00:45:44.590 --> 00:45:46.929
go to Philly to watch Brazil play, but I think

00:45:46.929 --> 00:45:50.090
they'll be a hard trip to make considering they

00:45:50.090 --> 00:45:52.190
were mid -season. But yeah, I'm definitely going

00:45:52.190 --> 00:45:54.130
to try to find a watch party or something that

00:45:54.130 --> 00:45:57.369
I can go to and experience the atmosphere with

00:45:57.369 --> 00:46:01.989
other people and yeah. What are Brazil's chances

00:46:01.989 --> 00:46:03.710
in winning the whole thing this year? They've

00:46:03.710 --> 00:46:05.869
been I think a top five from what I've heard

00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:08.449
But they haven't necessarily been picked as the

00:46:08.449 --> 00:46:11.409
the number one or two seed to to take it all

00:46:11.409 --> 00:46:13.409
Obviously you're gonna be biased and say they're

00:46:13.409 --> 00:46:15.289
gonna get it But like what's the realistic chances

00:46:15.289 --> 00:46:17.510
from your football from your football knowledge

00:46:17.510 --> 00:46:20.449
since you're a player that knows ball? Realistic

00:46:20.449 --> 00:46:23.849
chances, I think We'll have to see how the outside

00:46:23.849 --> 00:46:26.849
backs do. I know that's a big criticism for Brazil

00:46:26.849 --> 00:46:29.010
right now. It's the outside back positioning

00:46:30.030 --> 00:46:34.030
But again, I think soccer is a sport that anything

00:46:34.030 --> 00:46:39.130
can happen any day. So we'll see. And then my

00:46:39.130 --> 00:46:41.409
favorite question of all time, especially for

00:46:41.409 --> 00:46:44.590
a player of your caliber, is looking at what

00:46:44.590 --> 00:46:46.590
the World Cup, looking at what your professional

00:46:46.590 --> 00:46:50.429
career has been. What is that emotional feeling

00:46:50.429 --> 00:46:53.130
you still get today when you come between the

00:46:53.130 --> 00:46:55.250
two, right? Like it's a job for you at one part,

00:46:55.250 --> 00:46:57.130
but you've got to find the joy in it and then

00:46:57.130 --> 00:47:00.250
you get to see it at the highest stage. How do

00:47:00.250 --> 00:47:02.530
you sum all of that up in an emotional description?

00:47:05.309 --> 00:47:08.389
I think for me it's just, it's kind of, it makes

00:47:08.389 --> 00:47:11.070
summer better. It makes days better. You wake

00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:13.909
up and you have teams playing, nations playing

00:47:13.909 --> 00:47:18.530
and just knowing the joy it brings to the community.

00:47:18.670 --> 00:47:21.619
I think it's something really powerful. Well,

00:47:21.619 --> 00:47:24.380
we shall see how Brazil does in the World Cup,

00:47:24.380 --> 00:47:26.820
and we should also be watching your career to

00:47:26.820 --> 00:47:29.699
see how you do with Rhode Island FC. We expect

00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:31.619
you to get 20 goals by the end of the season,

00:47:31.900 --> 00:47:34.380
Leo. We want it, we need it, and we can't wait

00:47:34.380 --> 00:47:36.559
to see it happen before the end of the season

00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.659
in October. Leo, any final thoughts, any final

00:47:39.659 --> 00:47:43.199
words before we let you go? No, all good. I appreciate

00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:45.739
you having me on the podcast again, and happy

00:47:45.739 --> 00:47:48.460
I get to do this and show a little bit of myself

00:47:48.460 --> 00:47:51.659
off the field, so thank you. Thank you, and we

00:47:51.659 --> 00:47:54.119
cannot wait to catch up with you soon. Leo Afonso,

00:47:54.300 --> 00:47:59.340
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00:48:36.090 --> 00:48:38.570
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