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Hello and welcome to Raising Anchor, your podcast

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and source for all things Rhode Island FC. I'm

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your host Matt Entrykin coming to you on this

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Thursday, May 8th. RIFC exits from the Open Cup,

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falling 2 -1 to the New England Revolution. What

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went wrong? What went well? And well, we're going

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to talk about that and kind of find the storylines

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in between where we can discuss. Then we're going

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to talk a little bit later with Chris Moulton

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from the Union Report as he'll give us a preview

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of Monterey Bay FC. traveling here to central

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bank stadium this saturday joining me as always

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looking so fly in the defiant 1636 kit is the

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one and only jason carey jason how is it going

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my friend i'm doing pretty great you know got

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to see a open cup for the first time in what

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111 years or something because you were there

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for the last because i was there before you know

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because i'm that old i could feel it my knee

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you know whatever the secret is to your fountain

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of youth yeah Speaking of being old, you know,

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this is a busy period for the players. And, you

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know, they get some rotations here. Like, coach,

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sub me out. Like, where's, you know, it's a long

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week for us. I just off the cuff. Do you happen

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to know who the oldest player on this team is?

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No. It is one Maxi Rodriguez who has been putting

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in a lot of distance, a lot of distance on his

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legs right now. He's, you know, he's no Koke

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Vegas where he can, you know, last an extra decade

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if he takes care of his body. Definitely be some

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mileage and some probably much needed rotation.

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Hard to find it with all of the injuries that

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we've had. across this team over the last few

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weeks but this road stretch or excuse me this

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home stretch still not over we may be into three

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games here in seven days but we have two more

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so basically five games in 14 days that's a long

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stretch and then when you include the open cup

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that's a total of six games so it is going to

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be a wild time ahead you're already getting points

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for wearing the defiance kit i so it's funny

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is i got home from work and i was basically wearing

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to work like the same shirt you were just a blue

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polo with some random design so we would have

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been twinsies so good thing i i saw my jersey

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here put it on and just like whatever i'm just

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gonna keep this on for the pod so that's okay

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that's okay uh so hey let's get ready let's just

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get right into this and let's talk about this

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open cup game first and foremost let's do the

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vibe check you know it's the second game in front

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of 9 500 almost close to a sellout i i haven't

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been able to confirm it yet but i think it may

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have been one of the highest recorded attendance

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games on the night on that wednesday performance

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as all of the usl championship teams kind of

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got rattled against their mls opponents What

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was the overall experience for you in your second

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game at Centerville Bank Stadium? Yeah, second

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match there, and it was fantastic to see 9 ,500

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people on a Wednesday night when I think we were

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talking about one of the finals not too long

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ago only had 8 ,000 people at it. In the finals,

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that's where your team could actually win a legitimate

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trophy, not just earning the right to continue

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on in the competition here like we were playing

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for last night. The fact that so many people

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are showing up, you know, and really having a

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good time and really enjoying the vibes of the

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stadium. I mean, like I saw a post on RFC's subreddit

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earlier about people like this stadium is amazing.

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Like this is so much fun there. You know, like

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there's a few pain points, but overall, everyone

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is really excited. And I think surprised, especially

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depending on the circles that you fall into.

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There was a lot of naysayers back in the day.

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I think a lot of them have kind of quieted down,

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but that probably spread to some people and they're

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like, I don't know about this, especially if

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they're not soccer sickos. We ran into Governor

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McKee and asked him what were his overall thoughts

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and beyond just being able to enjoy the game

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and the experience, he's very much enjoying the

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position he's in of being able to kind of shut

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down and shut up those naysayers themselves,

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those detractors. Thinking into the game itself,

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fireworks again during the singing of the national

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anthem i did confirm with general manager paul

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burn i was like hey you're setting a dangerous

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precedent here and he said that is not going

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to be something that we you should expect to

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see game after game he didn't say when it would

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stop He did mention that it would, of course,

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be there for the big fireworks show displays.

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But we were talking like, hey, we're getting

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addicted to that, especially when the first goal

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gets scored. That was a phenomenal experience.

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I saw Defiance having to have a conversation

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with the fire marshals over the deployment of

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the smoke inside the stadium. They had never

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seen that at a soccer event or a sporting event

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in general. So there was a lot of concerns about

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that was going off and they were trying to. coordinate.

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I guess they maybe didn't understand what that

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expectation looked like and that had already

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been cleared at the stadium. So that was an interesting

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thing to see. But overall, I mean, like you said,

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soccer in the Open Cup returns to Pawtucket.

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Tim McDuff from Defiance has been doing a lot

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of research lately. And there's been a couple

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of good articles that have come out lately about

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the Open Cup and kind of, you know, paying its

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homage to the fact that it started here at Coates

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Field back in 1914. And I went back to say like,

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okay, well, when's the last time it was in Rhode

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Island? We did have Open Cup action with the

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Stingrays back in 1997, but the last time it

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was actually played in Pawtucket was over 100

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years ago. So the fact that it gets to kind of

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come back to its birthplace would have been really

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exciting to get the win. We'll talk about that

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in a second. But the last thing I want to ask

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you before we move on, because I don't know where

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else to put this, is now that the Revolution

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do advance, they are going to be playing a game

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at Providence College in front of less than 2

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,000 people. Is that not just the weirdest thing

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that you go from the, you know, the quote unquote

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Division One team who doesn't have the logistics

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in place? They can't even find a stadium to continue

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to grow the competition and see a 10 ,000 plus,

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you know, fan experience. Is this just the biggest

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insult? Is this is this the legacy of Don Garber

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manifested? yeah i was also gonna ask i'm like

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i'm not familiar with pc's field is that a soccer

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specific field it's just an athletic field okay

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i was gonna say maybe we got them addicted to

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soccer specific fields and they're like i'm curious

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why they're choosing rhode island of all places

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i didn't know if there was some tactical like

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tomfoolery and saying like hey like we just played

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in rhode island once look how lucky we are so

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we're gonna do it i mean the announcement came

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so quickly after the victory that they must have

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planned that field and that logistic but you

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know again you're the new england revolution

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there's got to be a field somewhere that can

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accommodate at least 5 ,000 fans. I don't know.

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It feels like a slap in the face of the Open

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Cup. It feels like a slap in the face of the

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Revs fans saying like, well, we can't trust you

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to even, you know, get this many people to show

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up to a midweek game in a matter of a couple

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of weeks. So we're going to do the best we can.

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Which is interesting. I didn't count the number

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of Revs fans, but there was quite a bit of them

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there, right? And they weren't all just in the

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supporter section. You know, we talked about

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that in this community. There are a lot of people

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who have... maybe grown up watching that team

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for 30 years hashtag non -lmless podcast so maybe

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they had a little bit of uh you know kind of

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identity crisis there you we ran into a fan you

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were trying to convince him to convert he was

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already convinced but then when the revs scored

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he did like the excited clap and like he looked

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at me and said hey i'm sorry like if what you

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said is true and he said it in front of chip

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on chip's honor i i'm fine with you again and

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i've said this multiple times we i went on the

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revolution recap earlier today we talked about

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it and spoiler alert uh seth said hashtag not

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on this podcast like four times just to really

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rub it in but um i said it a million times and

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i will continue to reinforce that i mean they

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do cover an mls team oh that but it's completely

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acceptable to be a fan of both these organizations

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I don't have to love the new England revolution.

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I don't have to be involved in them. And if fans

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are, that's fine. There's plenty of soccer space

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here in new England to be a fan of both. Just

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in these particular matches, you got to celebrate.

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You got to root for the home team. You got to

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root for the underdog every single time. Yeah.

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And the draw worked out like in our quote unquote

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favor to allow us to have this match, but it

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could be a long time before we actually play

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them again. Right next year. Who knows what MLS,

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how they will continue to enter this tournament.

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who knows who will like maybe will run into someone

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and not like advance and vice versa with them

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you could end up in division one one day and

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have to wait to enter the tournament at the same

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round as them so we wouldn't see them unless

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we both advance like yeah no this is this is

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a limited fabled experience it's you know people

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are saying this is a rivalry like okay sure for

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the 90 minutes yes you're battling for New England

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like you're battling for that reason but After

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this, like fans are going to spend a lot more

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time outside of those 90 minutes that have already

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passed talking about their individual soccer

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fandoms, their soccer culture. And there's just

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plenty of spaces where you can be both. So anyone

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that's been force fed the narrative, like you

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have to love one or the other. You can't be a

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fan of both. Like, don't pay it. The loudest

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voices online are often the most wrong ones.

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So don't pay attention to that. I do want to

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ask you, though, before we move on to the game

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itself. only one usl team now still in the hunt

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for the open cup does that make all of us pittsburgh

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riverhounds on on elimination days oh i'm definitely

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rooting for for them as the underdog to go through

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i mean i i would love for bob lilly to bob lilly

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his way through that tournament and imagine him

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making it to the final and just making it the

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most abysmal defensive match ever like even if

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they don't win just take it to the gritty end

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um You know, it's unfortunate that more of the

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teams didn't make it through, but sometimes that's

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just going to happen. And the reality is with

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the resources they have kind of expected, you

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know, it doesn't happen like this though every

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year. When we went back in the lead up to this,

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look through the history, the Rovers have actually

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lost two championship team, I think four or five

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times in the last 10 years. So it's not uncommon

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for it to happen. It's just the way the cookie

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crumbled this year. A lot of these championship

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teams actually took them like to the final minute.

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I mean, on the first day, it took extra time

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for two MLS sides to beat championship sides.

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And then, you know, Phil Bocchi's El Paso. They

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were in reach. I don't know what happened the

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second half there. I mean, El Paso is flying

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too high to the sun right now and their wings

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are getting burned. They got, they got Icarus

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and we don't need to talk about Tampa Bay getting

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swept off the floor by Orlando, but, but listen,

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like these are the narratives. So if you're going

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to continue with the open cup and I hope people

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do just remember that you're now have, you now

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have to be a Bob Lilly fan for. the remainder

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of the Open Cup run. And hey, that's great for

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us because we face them in a couple of weeks.

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And the more mileage they have to put, it gives

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us an advantage. So I'm completely on board with

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it. I did see in the news, the Pope was announced

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today. And when it first came out that he would

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be an American Pope, and I promise this is hashtag

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not a Pope podcast, but someone, I think John

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Morrissey put a picture of Bob Lilly's face over

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the Pope. And like right now, I believe. I believe

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in Pope Lily. So we'll see what happens on that

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front. But let's get into this game and let's

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kind of unpack where things went really well

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and where things kind of fell off the rails here,

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so to speak. And let's get into the formations

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first and foremost so that way we can really

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start to unpack exactly what happened here in

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Coach Kano's selection. For starters, Jason,

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you were absolutely right. He's picked his cup

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keeper. He even went on to reinforce that in

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the post -press interview where... Jackson Lee,

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for all intent and purpose, will continue to

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be the keeper for now the Jagermeister Cup. He

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is the man between the sticks. So you had Jackson

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Lee and Nett. And then more of that 4 -2 -3 -1

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that can shift and metamorphosize into the 3

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-5 -2. But in that back line, you had Adair Sanchez

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out on the left. Frank Nodarce returns to the

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squad in that left center back role, paired with

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Grant Stoneman. Rio Hope Gunn gets his third

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start. Unfortunately, now the streak is over

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as they did not get the result. But Rio Hope

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Gunn on that right back side. And then in that

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middle double pivot, Amos Shapiro Thompson continuing

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to demonstrate a new level of gamesmanship. something

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that it's just been really exciting to see him

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just kind of transform into partnered alongside

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the ever vigilant Clay Holstead. And then that

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midfield three of Noah Fuson out on the left

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side. So he finally gets to drop back and be

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a through and true winger. paired up with Maxi

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Rodriguez once again in the center of that midfield

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and Jojea Quisera out on the right. Chico gets

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the starting nod, returning again to this game.

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He played a long time. We asked Coach after the

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game about his minutes. He calls him Deeks, by

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the way. So that's his next evolution. It's Albert

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Dequa into Chico, back to Deeks now. So Deeks

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getting the start. He was only supposed to go

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45 minutes to manage his fitness and make sure

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that he's getting the minutes to get to full

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speed again. And Coach had a conversation and

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said, hey, we want to run you to 60 -65. Are

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you comfortable with that? And Chico said, absolutely.

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Not sure he had a tremendous impact on the game

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overall, but it was at least good to see a through

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and true striker back up at the front. Jason,

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overall thoughts on this roster and the way it

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was built? Are you surprised by anything? No,

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I mean, it was close to an unchanged lineup here

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from the last match. You just kind of swapped

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Brito and Chico in and out there. The four -back

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line, to a certain extent, is continuing here.

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I know that in possession, we kind of still shift

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and kind of change into a three -back line. There's

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a lot of movement throughout the game, but it

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seems like defending with four seems to be the

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new kind of thing for this team. It's the new

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meta. It's the new meta. I mean, at least until

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player health continues, maybe, or improves at

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that point. maybe we'll see some change but we're

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still shifting into a three and attack so i'm

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curious to see if that is like you say the new

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meta or is this just temporary because everyone's

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injured Well, I mean, I feel like we're starting

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to grow an abundance of defenders. I mean, in

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this game, we saw Frank Nodarce finally get the

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unlock and go into that right wing back spot

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that we have been waiting for all season when

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Aimé Mbika got his first minutes with the team

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here in the Open Cup. I mean... No, Darcy has

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to be the tallest right wing back in the history

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of the USL, I feel like. But, you know, it was

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good to see him get out there. I'm not sure that

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our defensive shape was suffering from that because

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we were chasing the game at that point. But it

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was exciting to see kind of what the future of

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our back line can be when it's transformed. And

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keep in mind, that's also without Karifa Yao

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in that mix up. So lots of opportunities, lots

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of possibilities to kind of go through that.

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So that's exciting to see. And then, you know,

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of course, the question that I had on my mind

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really was, you know, does Amos Shapiro Thompson

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get the nod to get the second start? He was so

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impactful in that first game, getting man of

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the match from defiance. And, you know, he showed

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it. I think he repeated, I think he was one of

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the brightest spots on the field in this game.

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I mean, he really helped lock down the middle

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third of the pitch and he was like a dog chasing

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a car. Like anywhere the ball was, he was going

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anywhere where one of our players, you know,

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made a mistake. Maxie even said every time he

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cost the team a turnover or an interception of

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some sort, like. Amos Shapiro Thompson was right

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there to clean up his own mistakes. Think about

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that. One of the most decorated midfielders in

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the game today in the USL championship, talking

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about how Amos is making him a better player.

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I thought he was phenomenal. And again, we asked

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this question of ourselves for an entire year

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last season. What is Amos Shapiro Thompson's

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role on this team? When we finally saw it, he

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was thrust forward in that 10, like. False nine,

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kind of like what we thought maybe Kevin Vang

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would be with the minutes he got. We weren't

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really quite sure what he would do. And then

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Amos, Shapiro, Thompson, now more in the six

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and eight. Kano said after the game, he sees

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AST as a six or an eight primarily, just dogging

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everyone. He had Jackson Ewell in his pocket

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for a majority of the game. And Amos, Shapiro,

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Thompson, I think is like 5 '3". I think the

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atomic ant from Toronto, see, I said this on

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the recap, I think he's taller than Amos, Shapiro,

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Thompson. You would have never... looked at saying

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body size or height was getting in the way of

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Amos, Shapiro Thompson, putting on a defensive

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masterclass. He was phenomenal on the pitch.

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Yeah. This maybe gives a coach some kind of interesting

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thoughts here because Harvo got left out, right?

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Because AST was having such a great match before

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and another great match again tonight. So at

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this point, maybe this form is going to continue

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for him. at least in the near future. And as,

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you know, our midfield is kind of where we actually,

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you know, don't have as many health issues, right?

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It's up front and in the back. So in the middle,

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we have plenty of people. And so to a certain

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extent, maybe we're playing some of these people

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out of position. But once everyone gets healthy,

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I don't know how coach is going to manage all

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these people here. So question for you, do you

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think though that... I mean, it felt like Zach

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Harbaugh getting the, you know, riding the pine

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at the beginning of this match felt more like

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managing the minutes across the need to preserve

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players for these, this three game series. Do

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you see that that's the case? Because one, it's

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still the open cup and you want to let the players,

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you know, I, it's almost an insult to say he's

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a more junior player at this point, but let those

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players shine in these cup rounds and save a

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player like Zach Harbaugh for the performance

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against Monterey Bay this weekend. Zach Haribo,

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to say he's not on the starting 11 feels pretty

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insane, just given some of his early performances

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in terms of his offense and defense. I don't

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know that I would swap that. It didn't work out

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because obviously we didn't advance into the

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Open Cup, but if we had, we wouldn't be talking

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about this. Do we think that there's going to

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be a real challenge for that secondary sixth

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spot between Haribo and AST? Possibly. But then

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also, don't we have another midweek game next

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week? Sure. It's a great problem to have this

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depth. For right now, with so many games, but

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maybe as that starts to go out later into the

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season, maybe some of that spreads out. Everyone's

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healthy. How do you find that balance? Yeah.

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And remember, too, by the August window, we pretty

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much solidified our starting 11, with the exception

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of having to rotate for change. We really started

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to see kind of... you know coach went from that

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chop and change where i think what was it the

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first 17 games he didn't have the same roster

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from game to game and then we really start to

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see that kind of get solidified in that backward

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um that back -end performance so let's talk about

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the goals themselves you know actually just to

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talk about the overall performance this the title

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of this episode is the the undeserved loss pod

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you could call it the undeserved win pod as well

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overall we saw a very tough, well -fought battle

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against a Caleb Porter side where he intended

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to rotate. He was very proud in the post game

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about talking about how none of his starting

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11 from the Toronto game in terms of first team

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players, even dressed for this match, that he

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had all this confidence and all this trust in

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the depth of his first off his second team, as

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well as the Academy players getting the call

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up. And then just kind of those rotational players

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want to ask you, did this, game feel like an

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undeserved loss? It definitely feels like it

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from our side in the sense that watching the

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match, it felt like our AFC were fighting tooth

00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.680
and nail. They had lots of good opportunities.

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I think if you look at it from a purely statistical

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point, though, you wouldn't get that. You wouldn't

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see that because the revs were equal, if not

00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:57.970
better, on most of the stats. But they didn't

00:20:57.970 --> 00:21:00.589
feel as cohesive. They didn't feel like a team

00:21:00.589 --> 00:21:03.950
that had played together a lot. The reality is

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that there are only two players out of that starting

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11 who are actually MLS next pro team. And although

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those weren't starters, you go through all those

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players. These are all MLS like quality players

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who just aren't finding minutes in the team that

00:21:20.410 --> 00:21:22.450
Caleb Porter has selected because we know last

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year. He had come in, he didn't have the opportunity

00:21:25.230 --> 00:21:27.650
to set up the team the way he wanted to, and

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so now that he's had the time to change things

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and they're finding success, all of these other

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players that they have accumulated over the past

00:21:35.150 --> 00:21:39.089
few years are kind of riding pie now. So these

00:21:39.089 --> 00:21:41.089
are players who could actually probably go play

00:21:41.089 --> 00:21:44.950
on some other MLS team somewhere, but Caleb Porter

00:21:44.950 --> 00:21:47.829
just doesn't have a use for them. There's a lot

00:21:47.829 --> 00:21:50.549
of experience out there. We weren't actually

00:21:50.549 --> 00:21:54.240
playing a bunch of kids. You know, you look at

00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:57.920
like Max or Rudy, he's been around forever. Sands

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has some experience. Did you see the video from

00:22:01.380 --> 00:22:03.359
the journalist in the press? Yeah, that someone

00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:05.559
was trying to kind of spin the narrative that

00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:08.220
we are playing against a bunch of boys out there.

00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:11.380
But the reality is, it's. Is Andrew Farrell a

00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:15.259
boy? Yeah, I don't I don't want to harp on a

00:22:15.259 --> 00:22:17.460
fellow colleague who's in there. I know we all

00:22:17.460 --> 00:22:19.980
have said things that, you know, maybe we don't

00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:22.670
want to ask out loud. I have a notorious story

00:22:22.670 --> 00:22:24.509
of something I asked Kano at the end of the,

00:22:24.630 --> 00:22:27.430
the, in the, the Lou, excuse me, the Lou city

00:22:27.430 --> 00:22:29.769
match in the playoffs that we'll take to the

00:22:29.769 --> 00:22:32.690
grave. But like that, that was true. You know,

00:22:32.710 --> 00:22:35.329
it was not, people are trying to set this narrative

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of, you know, Oh, it was a cup set because it

00:22:37.130 --> 00:22:40.710
was all MLS next pro players that cup set a USL

00:22:40.710 --> 00:22:42.609
championship team. And that just wasn't the case.

00:22:42.849 --> 00:22:45.109
Brandon by Will Sands, Andrew Farrell. Those

00:22:45.109 --> 00:22:48.210
are not, those are not. Bono is an experienced

00:22:48.210 --> 00:22:51.690
keeper in the MLS as well. I mean, it's. They

00:22:51.690 --> 00:22:55.250
were playing an MLS team. It was just a secondary

00:22:55.250 --> 00:22:57.829
MLS team. And listen, we knew that, right? We

00:22:57.829 --> 00:23:00.849
knew that this was the possible result. If they

00:23:00.849 --> 00:23:03.710
had fielded more MLS next pro players, there

00:23:03.710 --> 00:23:05.690
was a potential that this would be a very scrappy

00:23:05.690 --> 00:23:08.569
and hard fought match. But we knew that if senior

00:23:08.569 --> 00:23:11.390
players were coming on, that this could be a

00:23:11.390 --> 00:23:14.109
problem for Rhode Island FC. I was actually impressed

00:23:14.109 --> 00:23:17.269
with Caleb Porter not bringing any of his quote

00:23:17.269 --> 00:23:19.769
-unquote first team into the game. They were

00:23:19.769 --> 00:23:22.230
all in attendance up in the skybox next to the

00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:24.430
press room watching the game and cheering on

00:23:24.430 --> 00:23:27.089
their Revolution teammates. But when you look,

00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:29.210
you were talking about how a lot of the MLS teams

00:23:29.210 --> 00:23:32.190
this week in the Open Cup, they started dismantling

00:23:32.190 --> 00:23:34.670
their USL opponents, but that required them bringing

00:23:34.670 --> 00:23:37.769
on the first team players in the 60th, the 70th,

00:23:37.829 --> 00:23:42.019
the 80th minute. you know B squads couldn't get

00:23:42.019 --> 00:23:44.160
it done against the championship and I think

00:23:44.160 --> 00:23:46.519
that's a that's a that's a quality check it's

00:23:46.519 --> 00:23:48.660
a quality showcase of the pedigree that the USL

00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:51.059
championship is starting to become but let's

00:23:51.059 --> 00:23:54.339
also not pretend that we are a division one product

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yet you know coach Kano afterwards I asked him

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because Porter had said we are supposed to beat

00:23:59.319 --> 00:24:02.410
the USL I don't want to lose to a team 30 minutes

00:24:02.410 --> 00:24:04.829
down the road. So we're not going to. And I asked

00:24:04.829 --> 00:24:06.410
Kano, like, what's his thoughts on it? He goes,

00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:08.509
yeah, we're not supposed to beat an MLS team

00:24:08.509 --> 00:24:12.890
when our combined total salary roster is the

00:24:12.890 --> 00:24:15.950
same price as one of their, you know, young designated

00:24:15.950 --> 00:24:19.349
U22 initiative players. Like it's just, it's

00:24:19.349 --> 00:24:21.690
not, you're comparing apples to peanuts at that

00:24:21.690 --> 00:24:23.829
point. And it just, it doesn't fit the right

00:24:23.829 --> 00:24:25.910
narrative. So overall, I think it was a good

00:24:25.910 --> 00:24:28.210
game. I do want to ask you though, you didn't

00:24:28.210 --> 00:24:29.880
touch on it. So I'm going to, I'm going to. Dig

00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:34.099
in a little deeper. Is this result a direct inflection

00:24:34.099 --> 00:24:36.920
of Jackson Lee and some poor decision -making?

00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:39.319
I'm not going to put it all on Jackson Lee, but

00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:44.440
it's always hard when a mistake is driven from

00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.140
a keeper's decision versus something further

00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:50.039
up the pitch that then ends up costing them after

00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.559
the run of play. What were your overall thoughts

00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:55.460
on Lee's performance? I think that he's probably

00:24:55.460 --> 00:24:57.900
being really tough on himself, and I don't think

00:24:57.900 --> 00:25:00.750
you can blame it on him. I mean, you look at

00:25:00.750 --> 00:25:03.269
it and say maybe he did misjudge that there to

00:25:03.269 --> 00:25:06.869
a certain extent. But that was one of those weird

00:25:06.869 --> 00:25:09.450
cross shots. You know, I don't remember what

00:25:09.450 --> 00:25:11.690
the wind speed was like or something. Maybe it

00:25:11.690 --> 00:25:14.049
just kind of like gave it that extra little flight

00:25:14.049 --> 00:25:16.650
that spin. It just went over him. I don't know

00:25:16.650 --> 00:25:18.910
if you remember. I think it was like 10 years

00:25:18.910 --> 00:25:21.950
ago. There was this game City Man City versus

00:25:21.950 --> 00:25:24.730
Tottenham where Jesus Nava sent in this weird

00:25:24.730 --> 00:25:27.750
cross that did the same thing where just. kind

00:25:27.750 --> 00:25:29.950
of sailed over the keeper and just went into

00:25:29.950 --> 00:25:31.910
the back post and i think i think chicago fire

00:25:31.910 --> 00:25:34.490
had that just like two years ago kicked it from

00:25:34.490 --> 00:25:38.009
like the 80 yard line and it just kept going

00:25:38.009 --> 00:25:39.430
and the keeper was like there's no way this is

00:25:39.430 --> 00:25:41.009
going to get to it it floated right over tim

00:25:41.009 --> 00:25:42.970
howard has scored a goal for everton like that

00:25:42.970 --> 00:25:45.049
he just took a long goal kick and the wind kind

00:25:45.049 --> 00:25:48.630
of just took it past the keeper and keepers have

00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:51.910
the toughest job right if they make even the

00:25:51.910 --> 00:25:55.609
slightest of mistakes it's it's a goal whereas

00:25:55.609 --> 00:25:58.809
a striker if he gives the ball away and the opposition

00:25:58.809 --> 00:26:01.750
third well it's fine all my all my friends are

00:26:01.750 --> 00:26:04.369
here to kind of like stop the play at that point

00:26:04.369 --> 00:26:07.509
someone else really missed their kind of man

00:26:07.509 --> 00:26:09.869
marking or tackle or yeah but i mean so like

00:26:09.869 --> 00:26:12.170
and here's to be really clear right ace the kangaroo

00:26:12.170 --> 00:26:13.930
writes and i don't even think jackson could have

00:26:13.930 --> 00:26:17.069
claimed that ball lots of defenders turned off

00:26:17.069 --> 00:26:19.509
too so if i assume we're talking about the second

00:26:19.509 --> 00:26:23.359
one my issue is not his response to it hitting

00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.579
the post and trying to i mean he went as fast

00:26:25.579 --> 00:26:28.839
as he could he didn't freeze he he saw it reacted

00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.160
and just tried to make the dive i thought that

00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:34.420
was a really good natural like kind of showing

00:26:34.420 --> 00:26:37.029
a keeper the speed that he can have The problem

00:26:37.029 --> 00:26:39.670
is with, what, four minutes left to go in regular

00:26:39.670 --> 00:26:42.789
time, a ball floating in and sailing that close,

00:26:42.950 --> 00:26:46.269
that's not a time to drop your arms and let it

00:26:46.269 --> 00:26:48.589
clear for the goal kick. That's a time where

00:26:48.589 --> 00:26:49.210
you punch it out. Like playing to the whistle

00:26:49.210 --> 00:26:52.069
type of thing where you don't stop until you

00:26:52.069 --> 00:26:55.500
know for 100 % fact that it's out. I mean, when

00:26:55.500 --> 00:26:57.559
it comes to the first goal, I don't know. I don't

00:26:57.559 --> 00:26:59.200
blame him for that. I mean, that was a poor giveaway

00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:01.339
in the midfield. The Meg, the Meg is unfortunate

00:27:01.339 --> 00:27:03.240
whenever a ball goes through a keeper's legs,

00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.339
but that is 100 % Grant Stoneman stepping out,

00:27:06.380 --> 00:27:10.099
trying to catch in the low block, trying to catch

00:27:10.099 --> 00:27:12.839
disrupt and create the counter misses the timing

00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:15.599
completely. Maxie Rudy has all the time in the

00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:17.940
world to get the shot prepped, fires it off.

00:27:18.019 --> 00:27:20.480
It still doesn't make it. And then when Rio hope

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.420
gun. you know, can't slide in and, you know,

00:27:23.420 --> 00:27:25.299
cover enough space, the ball falls right at the

00:27:25.299 --> 00:27:27.839
feet of Thomas Chonkale. Thomas Chonkale, I don't

00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:29.440
know if you know who that is, but he's kind of

00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.940
a good player for the MLS and for the New England

00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:34.640
Revolution. So, you know, the first goal is,

00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:36.740
I don't blame it on Lee, it's just the optics

00:27:36.740 --> 00:27:38.799
of it, seeing it go through his legs, that's

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.640
never good. And then, you know... full credit

00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.339
to this team you know they come out in the second

00:27:43.339 --> 00:27:46.220
half and i don't coach said that he just said

00:27:46.220 --> 00:27:48.039
be free when i asked him how he talked to the

00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:50.319
players in the locker room and he said you know

00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.140
i play without fear because what do you have

00:27:52.140 --> 00:27:54.019
to lose now at this point you either don't win

00:27:54.019 --> 00:27:56.460
or you show this team you show this club you

00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:59.900
show these fans what can happen maxi rodriguez

00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:02.619
who promised last week in the interview after

00:28:02.619 --> 00:28:05.640
the game against san antonio promised that he

00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:09.259
loves the score against MLS opponents and absolutely

00:28:09.259 --> 00:28:11.700
comes through on that promise it was his fourth

00:28:11.700 --> 00:28:14.400
goal in his career scoring against MLS sides

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:16.579
in the Open Cup and then he goes on to score

00:28:16.579 --> 00:28:18.960
the first ever goal for Rhode Island FC at Central

00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:21.420
Bank Stadium and the first goal ever against

00:28:21.420 --> 00:28:24.799
an MLS opponent unfortunately it's not the first

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.740
goal ever in the history of the stadium and it's

00:28:27.740 --> 00:28:31.569
not the first victory for the stadium it's not

00:28:31.569 --> 00:28:33.869
going to have consequences down like long stream

00:28:33.869 --> 00:28:36.589
i know again i know the yappers online they're

00:28:36.589 --> 00:28:38.529
gonna they're gonna say things for the next 20

00:28:38.529 --> 00:28:40.289
years but does that really matter at the end

00:28:40.289 --> 00:28:43.509
of the day no i don't think it matters would

00:28:43.509 --> 00:28:45.970
it matter if a usl cup or a usl championship

00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:47.869
team gets to claim that like monterey bay on

00:28:47.869 --> 00:28:49.910
the weekend i think it actually would it would

00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:54.369
be much worse if like louisville came here and

00:28:54.369 --> 00:28:57.410
and got the the first win and scored the first

00:28:57.410 --> 00:29:00.359
goal something like that like A team who, like

00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:02.839
I mentioned earlier, we don't know how many times

00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.119
we'll ever play this team again. So I'm not too

00:29:07.119 --> 00:29:11.059
concerned about it. The trolls, the little offshoot

00:29:11.059 --> 00:29:15.519
in the community, that'll be their bread and

00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.519
butter for the rest of their life and good for

00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:21.220
them. But it's not a big deal. I don't care.

00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.019
So one of the interesting stats we've been waiting

00:29:24.019 --> 00:29:27.400
to use are quant the hillside for some data when

00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.920
it comes to predictive modeling, you know, projections

00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.079
and whatnot. But one of the interesting things

00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.500
is we've started to try to unpack kind of where

00:29:35.500 --> 00:29:37.980
this team is going, because ironically, and I

00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:39.539
know it doesn't feel like it coming off of this

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:41.640
loss, but this is one of the better defenses

00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:44.559
in the USL championship right now, at least when

00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:47.299
it comes to goals conceded. and i'm sure a lot

00:29:47.299 --> 00:29:49.119
of people listening right now we probably just

00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:50.880
caused a car crash tomorrow morning when someone

00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.059
goes there's no way this team is that good defensively

00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:56.940
but on average per 90 they've been doing a better

00:29:56.940 --> 00:29:59.220
job than the majority of the league but where

00:29:59.220 --> 00:30:01.140
rhode island has been struggling and this should

00:30:01.140 --> 00:30:03.880
be a no surprise either is the goal contribution

00:30:03.880 --> 00:30:07.839
and the offensive uh output right now we are

00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.099
struggling mightily so there's a graph up on

00:30:10.099 --> 00:30:13.829
the screen now um and The reality is this, is

00:30:13.829 --> 00:30:15.990
that we have some players that are massively

00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:20.190
under indexing compared to their 2024 stats in

00:30:20.190 --> 00:30:23.190
a lot of big ways. So, you know, there are a

00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.009
couple of outliers I want to be careful about.

00:30:25.130 --> 00:30:27.309
You know, you look at players like Zach Harbaugh,

00:30:27.329 --> 00:30:29.529
who only played half the season and is historically

00:30:29.529 --> 00:30:32.150
not known for score. I mean, he scored four goals

00:30:32.150 --> 00:30:34.789
last season. So I want to be really clear about

00:30:34.789 --> 00:30:37.529
before that. I think he scored four goals in

00:30:37.529 --> 00:30:39.809
his entire professional career. Yeah. You know,

00:30:39.809 --> 00:30:41.549
you also have to look at players like Joe Brito,

00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:44.769
who. made the most of the minutes that they had

00:30:44.769 --> 00:30:48.089
um but the you know started the season and then

00:30:48.089 --> 00:30:50.809
kind of fell into a supporting cast role where

00:30:50.809 --> 00:30:52.869
i'm really looking in terms of the production

00:30:52.869 --> 00:30:56.049
numbers right now you gotta look at noah fusan

00:30:56.049 --> 00:31:01.289
noah fusan right now way off on his index he's

00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:05.269
at a negative 0 .67 in comparison to his 2024

00:31:05.269 --> 00:31:07.970
stats and remember that's the golden playmaker

00:31:07.970 --> 00:31:10.700
right there So far this season, he doesn't have

00:31:10.700 --> 00:31:13.619
a single assist or goal in the regular season

00:31:13.619 --> 00:31:16.380
play. Been doing great in being a supporting

00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.259
cast member with the cup runs in the Jägermeister

00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:22.599
Cup and in the Open Cup, but so far hasn't seen

00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.380
any term of success. And you see him all over

00:31:25.380 --> 00:31:27.980
the pitch. You see him running around, making

00:31:27.980 --> 00:31:30.059
the necessary dribbles, taking on defenders,

00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.579
getting the crosses in, shooting. He's got a

00:31:33.579 --> 00:31:36.880
lot of shots, but nothing from it. do we need

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:38.920
to start focusing on the clinicalness of this

00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.500
because right now per 90 the only player that's

00:31:42.500 --> 00:31:44.920
above their mark is clay holstead from last year

00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.259
and then you know chico really close he's knocking

00:31:48.259 --> 00:31:50.299
on the door but that's also because chico had

00:31:50.299 --> 00:31:52.619
such a long like he was hot for a while he's

00:31:52.619 --> 00:31:55.400
very streaky are there problems with this rhode

00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.220
island team right now or is this more give it

00:31:57.220 --> 00:32:00.940
time that we need to kind of wait and see i think

00:32:00.940 --> 00:32:03.990
it's definitely a concern And I imagine coach

00:32:03.990 --> 00:32:06.430
is looking at it, but I don't know if it's like

00:32:06.430 --> 00:32:10.750
panic button yet. Right. Maxie is a new part

00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:13.990
to this team. So that's still kind of figuring

00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:17.210
out. We've gone through a lot of injuries. And

00:32:17.210 --> 00:32:22.109
while a lot of the team did stay the same, there's

00:32:22.109 --> 00:32:24.750
some tweaking going on here right now. You know,

00:32:24.769 --> 00:32:27.829
we thought is clay the answer to a right wing

00:32:27.829 --> 00:32:31.480
back. And now maybe it's. rio hope gunned and

00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.960
you know is we weren't sure if quiz air was going

00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.500
to go on to the right you know wasn't sure if

00:32:38.500 --> 00:32:40.180
that was a thing and now that kind of seems to

00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:43.599
be the spot where he's been playing and so there's

00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.559
there is within our own system a lot of kind

00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:50.440
of flux that's been going on so i think come

00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.099
in a month or two if some of these numbers haven't

00:32:53.099 --> 00:32:56.140
improved and results aren't there then you start

00:32:56.140 --> 00:33:00.009
to think okay well what really is going on I

00:33:00.009 --> 00:33:02.990
think we're still early days to a certain extent

00:33:02.990 --> 00:33:06.210
here that I'm, it's definitely something to,

00:33:06.289 --> 00:33:10.589
to kind of keep in mind. You know, Noah, for

00:33:10.589 --> 00:33:12.809
instance, the, all the work that he's putting

00:33:12.809 --> 00:33:17.490
in off the ball, are we not getting the best

00:33:17.490 --> 00:33:20.309
out of them because we're making them work so

00:33:20.309 --> 00:33:23.950
hard? I mean, like a good example was Liverpool

00:33:23.950 --> 00:33:27.650
this year. Muhammad Salah was unbeatable this

00:33:27.650 --> 00:33:32.380
year. And, you know, there wasn't a lot of change

00:33:32.380 --> 00:33:35.700
between Jurgen Klopp and Arne Slott. But one

00:33:35.700 --> 00:33:37.660
of the main things that he did change that really

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:41.259
helped the team out a lot was he kind of stopped

00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:44.680
making Mohamed Salah work so much off the ball

00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.680
and let him do what he does best. So I don't

00:33:48.680 --> 00:33:51.160
know if that's a small tactical role that maybe

00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.740
he would look at. I don't know if that, I mean,

00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:57.259
we're talking about Noah Fisan and Mohamed Salah.

00:33:57.299 --> 00:33:58.740
They're the same player. Yeah, basically the

00:33:58.740 --> 00:34:04.119
same guy. But, you know, maybe he's not getting

00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:06.380
into the positions he needs to be in because

00:34:06.380 --> 00:34:08.340
we're moving him around. We haven't find his

00:34:08.340 --> 00:34:11.460
actual spot. And even for last year, I mean,

00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:14.840
the team kind of started slow. Even he did as

00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:20.739
well, too. So I'm not concerned just yet. but

00:34:20.739 --> 00:34:23.420
when do you get concerned because you know we're

00:34:23.420 --> 00:34:26.619
going we can go through that denial period where

00:34:26.619 --> 00:34:29.239
okay we get to 10 games and then we take the

00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:31.900
hard look in the mirror we get to 15 games 20

00:34:31.900 --> 00:34:34.860
games where do you start asking yourself what

00:34:34.860 --> 00:34:38.619
needs to change for this player for this tactic

00:34:38.619 --> 00:34:41.980
style and you know if we say well we need the

00:34:41.980 --> 00:34:44.420
best 11 possible that coach has envisioned for

00:34:44.420 --> 00:34:46.880
this team that could be into the end of july

00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:51.130
so That would put us at about game 15 to game

00:34:51.130 --> 00:34:54.969
17 in the season. Is that really the amount of

00:34:54.969 --> 00:34:58.309
patience that fans need to build in to be prepared

00:34:58.309 --> 00:35:01.570
to see this team really start to unlock its players

00:35:01.570 --> 00:35:03.809
and start seeing the kind of same performances

00:35:03.809 --> 00:35:08.869
that we saw last season? I think if like, let's

00:35:08.869 --> 00:35:11.809
just say arbitrarily a month from now, if we

00:35:11.809 --> 00:35:14.130
don't see improvements, I'm not saying every

00:35:14.130 --> 00:35:16.769
single player needs to improve their goal scoring

00:35:16.769 --> 00:35:20.440
numbers. But as a whole, if we don't see some

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:23.960
sort of sign of improvement, then we start to

00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:27.960
think, okay, something's wrong here. And maybe

00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.179
this isn't going to turn out to be a great season,

00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:34.719
you know? I mean, time will tell. Time will tell.

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.219
Getting back into the storyline here, you know,

00:35:38.219 --> 00:35:40.340
back to that Jackson Lee piece, just kind of

00:35:40.340 --> 00:35:41.880
running down through the rest of this rundown.

00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.230
I know we talked about Jackson Lee. There was,

00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:46.750
you know, there's those people online that say

00:35:46.750 --> 00:35:48.610
Jackson Lee would have saved that whenever Koke

00:35:48.610 --> 00:35:51.230
makes the mistake. Would we have benefited from

00:35:51.230 --> 00:35:53.690
having the, the leadership and the presence of,

00:35:53.730 --> 00:35:57.909
of our Capitan? Yeah, I don't, I think that's,

00:35:57.909 --> 00:36:00.730
you know, like I said, the, the, the goalkeeper

00:36:00.730 --> 00:36:04.349
position is such a tough job. One small mistake

00:36:04.349 --> 00:36:06.530
kind of costs your team. I don't, I don't think

00:36:06.530 --> 00:36:10.010
that would have changed a thing necessarily to

00:36:10.010 --> 00:36:14.639
have Vegas in there instead of Lee. maybe slightly

00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.900
that like would have changed the way we play,

00:36:16.980 --> 00:36:19.739
right? We know Koke is super comfortable with

00:36:19.739 --> 00:36:22.559
the ball at his feet, loves himself a good pass.

00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:26.579
But also that's nothing to take away from Lee.

00:36:26.619 --> 00:36:28.800
We know he is a great shot stopper. And whenever

00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:32.340
Kano has called upon him, he's always put out

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:36.519
like big performances for us. So sometimes it's

00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.380
just the, it's just the way it happens. And then

00:36:39.380 --> 00:36:42.380
final kind of piece to the game itself. Want

00:36:42.380 --> 00:36:44.539
to talk about the tactics at some, it seemed

00:36:44.539 --> 00:36:46.679
like there was a little bit of a change in the

00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:48.780
halftime, you know, I'll die your Sanchez and

00:36:48.780 --> 00:36:51.320
full credit to producer torn for catching up

00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:55.380
on this. He inverts Sanchez for the two wingers.

00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.059
And, you know, we, we, I also full credit to

00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:02.260
the revolution. They did have a solid back line

00:37:02.260 --> 00:37:04.380
when we switched to the wingers and continuously

00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:07.840
tried to play out wide. It felt like. it was

00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.360
always a double marker situation. We really,

00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:13.000
we could fire in a cross, but it felt like we

00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.280
couldn't get far enough up to be comfortable

00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.739
and let our midfield players, our second runners

00:37:17.739 --> 00:37:20.699
get into the box before the balls sailed through.

00:37:20.980 --> 00:37:22.960
Sometimes the crosses were a little sloppy, but

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:24.960
you know, outside of that, it was the speed that

00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:26.199
they were trying because they needed the speed

00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:28.480
to get past the back line of the revolution.

00:37:30.250 --> 00:37:32.969
Are the tactics working for this team right now,

00:37:33.010 --> 00:37:36.110
or is this just a we're missing JJ, we're missing

00:37:36.110 --> 00:37:38.829
that big player? Because I don't think Chico

00:37:38.829 --> 00:37:41.969
had as effective as a game as he probably would

00:37:41.969 --> 00:37:45.329
have liked. He only got one shot in the game,

00:37:45.409 --> 00:37:47.710
wasn't on target. It felt very similar to the

00:37:47.710 --> 00:37:49.489
header that he missed last week, just out wide.

00:37:49.750 --> 00:37:53.449
I guess I'm curious. is it the lack of a player

00:37:53.449 --> 00:37:55.769
in the midfield, whether they can win the headers

00:37:55.769 --> 00:37:57.889
when they were at speed at pace, throwing balls

00:37:57.889 --> 00:38:00.230
into the middle, or is it a player that can really

00:38:00.230 --> 00:38:03.610
hold the ball, you know, power through a back

00:38:03.610 --> 00:38:06.250
line with force and then, and turn and shoot.

00:38:06.389 --> 00:38:08.590
It feels like a lot of our attacks coming from

00:38:08.590 --> 00:38:11.010
out wide recently. And I don't know that that's

00:38:11.010 --> 00:38:13.150
connecting. We got the one goal is beautiful

00:38:13.150 --> 00:38:15.510
with Maxie, you know, picking up and shooting,

00:38:15.550 --> 00:38:19.750
but. If that's the version of Maxie we get, that's

00:38:19.750 --> 00:38:21.889
akin to the Maxie that was successful in Detroit.

00:38:22.110 --> 00:38:24.309
We were told, we were led to believe that that's

00:38:24.309 --> 00:38:26.010
not the type of player Maxie was going to be

00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:28.909
this season. Are we defaulting back to the lessons

00:38:28.909 --> 00:38:33.750
that Detroit City taught us? Maybe, but some

00:38:33.750 --> 00:38:38.670
of that seems to be some necessity. From the

00:38:38.670 --> 00:38:40.650
short amount of time this season, the evolution

00:38:40.650 --> 00:38:43.469
we've seen, we're having troubles at the back.

00:38:43.570 --> 00:38:46.440
We've got injury concerns. We changed to a four

00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.000
back line. And then all of a sudden that kind

00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.300
of starts the solidity of our back line. Then

00:38:52.300 --> 00:38:55.219
we're kind of swapping around some of the midfield

00:38:55.219 --> 00:38:59.179
there a bit. We're, you know, Joe Jay was there.

00:38:59.219 --> 00:39:01.719
I think at this point really isn't going to be

00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.019
a left wing back for us much anymore. Unless

00:39:04.019 --> 00:39:06.480
I don't know. Frank did our say on that right

00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:08.699
wing back. There's a party that wants to say,

00:39:08.780 --> 00:39:12.050
Hey, Let's see what we go back to what we saw

00:39:12.050 --> 00:39:14.670
last season. And that you would put him in the

00:39:14.670 --> 00:39:16.989
right back position. And then the thing is, when

00:39:16.989 --> 00:39:20.590
you attack, then Joe Jay would tuck in and then

00:39:20.590 --> 00:39:21.909
Frank would push up. So you're saying we wouldn't

00:39:21.909 --> 00:39:24.150
go back to the 3 -5 -2? We would continue to

00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:25.389
adopt this 4 -2 -3 -1? I don't know. I think

00:39:25.389 --> 00:39:28.510
that we've... Because the 4 -2 -3 -1 is just

00:39:28.510 --> 00:39:30.989
the starting position, right? I think we'll still

00:39:30.989 --> 00:39:34.989
always continue to attack in some version of

00:39:34.989 --> 00:39:37.309
a 3 -5 -2. If you see the heat map and the average

00:39:37.309 --> 00:39:40.590
positioning... It's very much a 3 -5 -2. Aldair

00:39:40.590 --> 00:39:43.289
is advancing so much further up the pitch. It

00:39:43.289 --> 00:39:45.230
is still a three -back system. And it just works

00:39:45.230 --> 00:39:48.349
so well, too, with Koke being such a great passer

00:39:48.349 --> 00:39:51.630
that he is. He kind of joins the back line, becomes

00:39:51.630 --> 00:39:52.869
an auxiliary. Right, but you're not answering

00:39:52.869 --> 00:39:56.150
the question. With Frank Dardasse back... We

00:39:56.150 --> 00:39:58.469
played an MLS squad. I think reading too much

00:39:58.469 --> 00:40:02.230
into this game is actually a fallacy. So there's

00:40:02.230 --> 00:40:04.429
no lessons to be learned from this match? I don't

00:40:04.429 --> 00:40:06.329
think there's no lessons to be learned, but...

00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.099
Maybe some of it is just unlucky. If we look

00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:12.639
back to the San Antonio match, if one of those

00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.739
shots went in, we won that game, and then we

00:40:15.739 --> 00:40:18.000
come here midweek and we lost to an MLS side,

00:40:18.139 --> 00:40:20.179
I don't think there'd be any issues. We'd just

00:40:20.179 --> 00:40:24.099
say, fair enough, right? We played an MLS squad.

00:40:24.219 --> 00:40:26.840
We went out there. We went toe -to -toe with

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:29.320
them. We made them really work for that victory.

00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:32.699
We can be proud of ourselves and hang our heads

00:40:32.699 --> 00:40:35.949
high. I think that the goals will come to a certain

00:40:35.949 --> 00:40:38.289
extent. We saw this last year, too, with this

00:40:38.289 --> 00:40:42.730
team. It's like the frost is still kind of thawing

00:40:42.730 --> 00:40:46.550
off the team. It takes a while for them to kind

00:40:46.550 --> 00:40:48.889
of get going. In the same way that when teams

00:40:48.889 --> 00:40:51.989
really stifle us, it's because they don't allow

00:40:51.989 --> 00:40:54.989
us to build up any momentum. Once we get that

00:40:54.989 --> 00:40:57.510
momentum build up, I think it's going to be very

00:40:57.510 --> 00:40:59.989
much similar to what we saw last year, where

00:40:59.989 --> 00:41:02.769
we'll start to really... get into our stride.

00:41:02.769 --> 00:41:06.389
Will we see who this team is? Just at that point,

00:41:06.429 --> 00:41:08.449
it'll be like, will it be too late or will the

00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:11.349
other teams be too good? Evan reminds us, Hey

00:41:11.349 --> 00:41:14.030
Jason, our IFC did score against an MLS squad

00:41:14.030 --> 00:41:16.949
that hasn't conceded in a month. Remember that

00:41:16.949 --> 00:41:19.670
Seth went on great. Seth went to great lengths

00:41:19.670 --> 00:41:23.000
to explain to us how this may be. the best defensive

00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:24.659
performance in the history of the New England

00:41:24.659 --> 00:41:26.880
Revolution, and it's one of the best defense

00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.619
performances in MLS currently. The Open Cup match?

00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.440
No, well, we scored against a Revolution side.

00:41:32.579 --> 00:41:34.559
The argument to Evan's point would be, well,

00:41:34.579 --> 00:41:36.639
we didn't score against their first team. We

00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:39.360
scored against other players there. But nevertheless,

00:41:39.619 --> 00:41:42.260
final question before we move on to our preview.

00:41:42.780 --> 00:41:47.860
Overall, I want to ask, how big of a deal...

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.360
Is it to see Defiance being able to finally light

00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:54.059
the smokes, getting to hear Psycho Killer? Did

00:41:54.059 --> 00:41:55.880
that bring it all home for you? Is that what

00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:58.300
the fans needed? And should they be expecting

00:41:58.300 --> 00:42:00.739
to see more of that this Saturday? Oh, absolutely.

00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:03.079
And like I mentioned kind of at the top of the

00:42:03.079 --> 00:42:06.719
hour, people are still really excited. No one's

00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.539
like, oh, it's cool, but it would be nice if

00:42:09.539 --> 00:42:12.739
they won. like we're not there yet we're still

00:42:12.739 --> 00:42:15.400
in the we've got that grace period where it's

00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:17.820
the new shiny thing it's the vibes are there

00:42:17.820 --> 00:42:21.380
it's fun it's a beautiful stadium especially

00:42:21.380 --> 00:42:23.699
at night this time we got to see the first match

00:42:23.699 --> 00:42:26.179
was kind of in the afternoon so the lights going

00:42:26.179 --> 00:42:29.059
lights on really exciting they they should do

00:42:29.059 --> 00:42:32.099
some some sort of thing with the bridge because

00:42:32.099 --> 00:42:35.119
then yeah 95 that bridge needs to be able to

00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:37.320
work in tandem they've got all the ld it's blue

00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:39.880
but like what if it also flashed No, it's just

00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.840
LED. You can make it any color you want. That

00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.159
just needs to be a cross collab with the city

00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.860
of Pawtucket in the near future. But we are going

00:42:47.860 --> 00:42:50.820
to talk at great lengths on if goals are going

00:42:50.820 --> 00:42:53.579
to come this weekend against the Monterey Bay

00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:56.059
team heading in to Centerville Bank Stadium.

00:42:56.260 --> 00:43:00.039
And I can't think of a better person to talk

00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:03.420
all things Monterey Bay than the one and only

00:43:03.420 --> 00:43:06.639
Chris Moulton. Chris, how are you doing, sir?

00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:09.960
What's going on, guys? I'm doing great. How are

00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:14.500
you? Living the dream right now, my friend. Living

00:43:14.500 --> 00:43:18.099
the dream. Hey, listen, Chris, you're all the

00:43:18.099 --> 00:43:20.420
way over on the West Coast, probably having the

00:43:20.420 --> 00:43:22.199
time of your life weather -wise. We're getting

00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:24.639
some good weather here nowadays, out here watching

00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:27.219
some soccer in action right now. Want to thank

00:43:27.219 --> 00:43:29.800
you for jumping on first and foremost, and also

00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:33.139
get people tuned in on who you are, how did you

00:43:33.139 --> 00:43:35.519
start the Union Report, and what's been your

00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.590
overall connection to Monterey Bay? Yeah, so

00:43:38.590 --> 00:43:43.070
I don't know. I have a buddy that I do it with,

00:43:43.130 --> 00:43:46.610
Andrew Martin. He's not here right now. But me

00:43:46.610 --> 00:43:50.179
and him actually. met each other because of where

00:43:50.179 --> 00:43:53.420
our season tickets were um we just happened to

00:43:53.420 --> 00:43:56.579
be like on opposite sides of the aisle of one

00:43:56.579 --> 00:44:00.260
another and he has a background in reporting

00:44:00.260 --> 00:44:03.219
on minor league baseball and i was just a huge

00:44:03.219 --> 00:44:06.559
sports junkie and we kind of said hey you know

00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.239
what like we should totally do something for

00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:12.099
the union and so that's kind of how it started

00:44:12.099 --> 00:44:16.769
um from there You have to make some inroads.

00:44:16.809 --> 00:44:19.130
We didn't know anyone at the club at the time.

00:44:19.969 --> 00:44:24.869
More or less, we asked some questions. We talked

00:44:24.869 --> 00:44:30.670
with President Mike DiGiulio. Weaved our way

00:44:30.670 --> 00:44:34.690
in there, I guess you could say. Now we're doing

00:44:34.690 --> 00:44:38.389
club interviews every Tuesday. We're putting

00:44:38.389 --> 00:44:41.630
those up on our YouTube. We're writing articles

00:44:41.630 --> 00:44:46.750
on our blog. pretty much all the socials. And

00:44:46.750 --> 00:44:50.590
I think us and a couple of the, we're not like

00:44:50.590 --> 00:44:53.309
a supporter group necessarily, but we do have

00:44:53.309 --> 00:44:56.250
like Rising Tide and some of those guys that

00:44:56.250 --> 00:44:59.570
we collaborate with from time to time. And so

00:44:59.570 --> 00:45:03.050
at this point, we're just, I don't know, MBFC

00:45:03.050 --> 00:45:06.409
junkies that love to spend our time promoting

00:45:06.409 --> 00:45:09.969
the club in a positive light. It sounds very

00:45:09.969 --> 00:45:13.989
similar to our own journey. We've actually held

00:45:13.989 --> 00:45:16.190
you to a very high standard in terms of your

00:45:16.190 --> 00:45:18.969
access that you've gotten in partnership with

00:45:18.969 --> 00:45:21.409
the club. That's something that we continue to

00:45:21.409 --> 00:45:24.510
try to grow. We've done it as organic as we can.

00:45:24.590 --> 00:45:26.829
And sometimes it's like we got to ask the tougher

00:45:26.829 --> 00:45:29.960
questions. what's preventing you from letting

00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:33.420
us have Maxi Rodriguez next week? So they've

00:45:33.420 --> 00:45:35.340
worked really well with us, but it's exciting

00:45:35.340 --> 00:45:37.719
to see you guys kind of lead the charge on that.

00:45:37.780 --> 00:45:39.280
I don't know if there's a lot of independent

00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.300
coverage within the championship that has that

00:45:42.300 --> 00:45:46.360
kind of profile access and link directly to the

00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.059
team and players themselves. So it's been really

00:45:49.059 --> 00:45:51.860
exciting to see you guys operate. And so how

00:45:51.860 --> 00:45:54.880
many years has the union report been in existence?

00:45:55.660 --> 00:46:00.360
We started, it was kind of formally, I don't

00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:04.159
know, talked about toward the end of season one.

00:46:04.380 --> 00:46:08.360
And so this is like our third year and we didn't

00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:11.300
really get that level of access actually until

00:46:11.300 --> 00:46:15.949
this past offseason. You know, it was just one

00:46:15.949 --> 00:46:19.269
of those things. The team was doing a huge rebranding.

00:46:19.610 --> 00:46:23.909
They tried to move away from the Frank Yollop

00:46:23.909 --> 00:46:27.250
years and move into the Jordan Stewart era. And

00:46:27.250 --> 00:46:30.690
I felt like we had a really productive conversation

00:46:30.690 --> 00:46:34.449
with Ray Beshoff, the club owner, and Mike DiGiulio,

00:46:34.510 --> 00:46:37.690
the president, and just said, hey, look, you

00:46:37.690 --> 00:46:40.909
know. We just want to portray the team in a positive

00:46:40.909 --> 00:46:44.230
light. Our goal, our stated goal for the union

00:46:44.230 --> 00:46:48.429
report is longevity for the club. You know, we're

00:46:48.429 --> 00:46:51.710
in a very, I mean, I don't know how much cost

00:46:51.710 --> 00:46:54.329
of living is out there and in Rhode Island, but

00:46:54.329 --> 00:46:58.630
it's insane over here. And, you know, just trying

00:46:58.630 --> 00:47:02.510
to have this thing. So when I'm a grandparent.

00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:05.960
my grandkids can go and watch mbfc games and

00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:10.639
so um i think that they like that and decided

00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.800
hey you know what let's get these guys in there

00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:17.519
so i think i saw uh mbfc was selling tickets

00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:20.460
at costco like like other major sporting events

00:47:20.460 --> 00:47:24.239
and stuff now so you guys are becoming very very

00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.719
worldwide in the sense of what monterey bay has

00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.139
to offer there so get yourself a dollar 50 hot

00:47:29.139 --> 00:47:32.699
dog and a monterey bay fc ticket There you go.

00:47:32.900 --> 00:47:35.760
Perfect. Perfect. So before we jump into this

00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.659
preview, we have some unresolved beef that we

00:47:38.659 --> 00:47:41.039
need to settle for the week here. And that is,

00:47:41.099 --> 00:47:44.619
of course, the USL championship save of the week.

00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.659
I've watched the video on these players from

00:47:47.659 --> 00:47:50.360
last week. And, you know, Camposano, who's going

00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.320
to be a large talking point, I have a feeling

00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:55.619
tonight, has already won this. I just read an

00:47:55.619 --> 00:47:58.300
article earlier today. He's already being forecasted

00:47:58.300 --> 00:48:01.909
as the keeper of the year. I watched these saves,

00:48:02.010 --> 00:48:06.949
and I'm blown away at the bias here going on

00:48:06.949 --> 00:48:10.469
right now that your keeper is leading the results

00:48:10.469 --> 00:48:13.230
poll right now because, one, he's already gotten

00:48:13.230 --> 00:48:15.849
it, but, two, I watched that save, and you can't

00:48:15.849 --> 00:48:17.869
even tell if that goal didn't go in or not. So

00:48:17.869 --> 00:48:20.329
the idea that that's the clear and cut favorite

00:48:20.329 --> 00:48:23.570
or obvious choice, whereas you see our Koke Vegas

00:48:23.570 --> 00:48:27.010
flying through the air, I don't know if I agree

00:48:27.010 --> 00:48:29.269
with this. What are your thoughts overall, Chris?

00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.440
You know, I mean, it's tough to be hard on Nico.

00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:38.380
He does his best. He has won it before. We have

00:48:38.380 --> 00:48:43.800
a very strong, strong contingent of voters out

00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:48.480
here. And, you know, it was something that. Has

00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:50.980
kind of come up just in this year, actually,

00:48:51.019 --> 00:48:53.280
because for the longest time we weren't getting

00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.980
any player of the week, save of the week, player

00:48:55.980 --> 00:49:00.099
of the month, anything. And I think that we've

00:49:00.099 --> 00:49:04.579
seen a uniting of several supporter groups. And

00:49:04.579 --> 00:49:07.940
I think that has really been the thing that's

00:49:07.940 --> 00:49:12.239
pushed our guys, especially Nico, over the line

00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:16.250
as far as getting the popular vote. So what I'm

00:49:16.250 --> 00:49:20.329
hearing is this is a popularity contest and the

00:49:20.329 --> 00:49:23.150
real deserved keeper on this isn't getting the

00:49:23.150 --> 00:49:25.070
day. So what Chris is saying is the Rhode Island

00:49:25.070 --> 00:49:28.190
fans are letting us down here. You guys got to

00:49:28.190 --> 00:49:31.469
get out there and vote. We invited you to our

00:49:31.469 --> 00:49:33.670
show and this is how you disrespect our fans?

00:49:35.809 --> 00:49:39.889
No, I think... You know, cause you guys have

00:49:39.889 --> 00:49:43.849
like one big supporter group, right? Is my Intel

00:49:43.849 --> 00:49:46.949
correct? You guys have like the defiant 1636

00:49:46.949 --> 00:49:49.150
are completely on the South end and they have

00:49:49.150 --> 00:49:52.449
three full sections. One of them dedicated to

00:49:52.449 --> 00:49:55.010
standing only the other two are unlocked where

00:49:55.010 --> 00:49:56.929
they can stand or sit down, but yeah, it's an

00:49:56.929 --> 00:50:00.869
exciting experience. Okay. So, and that's kind

00:50:00.869 --> 00:50:05.139
of my soccer experience, football. experience

00:50:05.139 --> 00:50:08.659
is about five years in total. I wasn't even a

00:50:08.659 --> 00:50:11.280
fan before the union came to town. So bear with

00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:13.880
me, but everything I've seen, it's like, okay,

00:50:13.980 --> 00:50:16.559
you have one big group. Well, for some reason

00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.739
we have like four or five small groups and they

00:50:19.739 --> 00:50:23.179
were always in fighting, not in fighting, but

00:50:23.179 --> 00:50:25.480
they just weren't working together for a common

00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:29.320
goal. And so now I think that they've kind of

00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:31.460
come together. We're seeing the fruit of that

00:50:31.460 --> 00:50:35.500
in, in. you know voting and things like that

00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:39.380
so i california struggles with its supporter

00:50:39.380 --> 00:50:42.460
culture identity every single soccer team has

00:50:42.460 --> 00:50:45.659
numerous elements or versions within the the

00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:48.400
larger supporter group ecosystem of like this

00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.559
is our small little tribe this is our small little

00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.329
tribe and on game day We'll try to all get along,

00:50:53.570 --> 00:50:56.409
but there will be conflict internally that the

00:50:56.409 --> 00:50:58.570
larger crowds will never know about. But I will

00:50:58.570 --> 00:51:00.550
tell you, having been in this business now for

00:51:00.550 --> 00:51:02.929
just a few years ourselves, there's a lot of

00:51:02.929 --> 00:51:04.530
politics. I mean, you probably know this from

00:51:04.530 --> 00:51:06.369
your side of it, too. A lot of politics that

00:51:06.369 --> 00:51:10.730
go on in the day to day. I mean, like the 3252

00:51:10.730 --> 00:51:12.889
pretend to be one giant group, but it's just

00:51:12.889 --> 00:51:15.309
a bunch of little groups. And then as soon as

00:51:15.309 --> 00:51:17.070
there's something that goes wrong, they're outside

00:51:17.070 --> 00:51:20.789
just punching each other. Yeah, it's a thing.

00:51:20.889 --> 00:51:23.590
But let's hashtag not an MLS podcast. Not here

00:51:23.590 --> 00:51:26.730
to talk about LAFC for sure. Let's get into this

00:51:26.730 --> 00:51:29.349
game itself. Let's talk about the head to head

00:51:29.349 --> 00:51:31.969
record here. First and foremost, the last time

00:51:31.969 --> 00:51:34.889
these two teams faced each other, we saw it in

00:51:34.889 --> 00:51:37.389
a very interesting way where, you know, it was

00:51:37.389 --> 00:51:40.880
the. First road game for the history of Rhode

00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.820
Island FC away as they headed to a very windy

00:51:43.820 --> 00:51:47.199
Cardinale Stadium to draw 2 -2 against the Monterey

00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:50.280
Bay FC. The game had several notable firsts,

00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.920
first including the actual first Rhode Island

00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.699
FC goal in club history because Mark Doyle's

00:51:55.699 --> 00:51:58.360
own goal does not go down in the records books.

00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.059
with Albert Dequa not only getting the first

00:52:01.059 --> 00:52:03.059
goal, but getting the first brace in club history.

00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.079
It was the first time we would lead a game. It

00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.480
was only a total of 12 minutes across both goals

00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:11.340
scored. But then it also saw the first injury

00:52:11.340 --> 00:52:14.579
to an RIFC player in Coque, Vegas, coming off

00:52:14.579 --> 00:52:17.360
in just the second game of his career with Rhode

00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:20.599
Island FC that gave Jackson Lee that stint all

00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.110
the way through the win in Las Vegas. In that

00:52:24.110 --> 00:52:26.849
first matchup, MBFC was technically the better

00:52:26.849 --> 00:52:29.750
team. I won't deny it. They created more chances,

00:52:30.030 --> 00:52:33.699
created more shots and shots on target. And they

00:52:33.699 --> 00:52:35.860
also showed a defensive fortitude when it came

00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:38.079
to winning the lion's share of aerial and ground

00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:40.059
duels. We didn't realize at the time because

00:52:40.059 --> 00:52:42.679
we were just so in love with what had happened

00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:46.039
in the game. We were excited to be there. I don't

00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:48.219
think we really truly reflected back on what

00:52:48.219 --> 00:52:52.239
Monterey showed early on in that. But by contrast,

00:52:52.420 --> 00:52:55.659
and this is the RFC part, RFC very much like

00:52:55.659 --> 00:52:58.300
this Revs game that we just saw this last Wednesday.

00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:01.599
dominated the middle of the the mid third excuse

00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:04.699
me doubling the accurate passes and total passes

00:53:04.699 --> 00:53:07.980
against that monterey side uh showing that the

00:53:07.980 --> 00:53:09.659
high press was going to be something really incredible

00:53:09.659 --> 00:53:13.480
allowing us to get multiple turnovers and we

00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.699
led in total domination of touches in the opposition's

00:53:16.699 --> 00:53:19.969
box but it still ended up even -steven after

00:53:19.969 --> 00:53:23.210
90. So we couldn't figure it out yet. Monterey

00:53:23.210 --> 00:53:25.710
Bay at that early time was flying high. I think

00:53:25.710 --> 00:53:28.590
you guys were in second place in the Western

00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:31.190
Conference, a role you're similarly in right

00:53:31.190 --> 00:53:34.130
now. And it's just exciting that these two teams

00:53:34.130 --> 00:53:36.670
are now coming back together. However, this time

00:53:36.670 --> 00:53:39.050
you'll be dealing with us and maybe a windy game

00:53:39.050 --> 00:53:41.289
here at Centerville Bank Stadium. We don't have

00:53:41.289 --> 00:53:43.530
the weather yet for that, so we'll talk about

00:53:43.530 --> 00:53:45.900
that a little later. Chris, going back to that

00:53:45.900 --> 00:53:48.780
match, Jason, chime in too if you want. Just

00:53:48.780 --> 00:53:53.039
curious, you were our first, and you never forget

00:53:53.039 --> 00:53:55.900
your first. What was it like having Rhode Island

00:53:55.900 --> 00:53:59.440
FC for that first away game for us? What was

00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.320
it like playing them? What was your overall vibe

00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.019
on that team as they entered into the league

00:54:03.019 --> 00:54:08.500
in 2024? Yeah, so I was super excited having

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:11.320
just, you know, been an expansion team a couple

00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:15.579
of years prior. You know, I understood the experience.

00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:18.019
I thought you guys were just going to, you know,

00:54:18.139 --> 00:54:21.900
you know, 11th, maybe 12th in the East. And no,

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:23.960
that was totally different. But going into that

00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.400
game, actually, the first thing that struck me

00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.340
was there was Rhode Island fans in attendance

00:54:29.340 --> 00:54:32.039
actually took a picture and posted it because

00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:36.340
number one. back then we've rebranded like i

00:54:36.340 --> 00:54:40.420
said but you guys jerseys are just awesome and

00:54:40.420 --> 00:54:42.699
i was like kind of jealous and so i was like

00:54:42.699 --> 00:54:45.099
hey can i take a picture with you guys and so

00:54:45.099 --> 00:54:48.980
um that something like that where where you're

00:54:48.980 --> 00:54:51.500
you're seeing supporters travel like literally

00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.980
from coast to coast really spoke to the level

00:54:55.980 --> 00:54:59.039
of devotion that Rhode Island fans were going

00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:01.340
to have. I mean, obviously it was really early

00:55:01.340 --> 00:55:05.860
on when you guys came to play us, but I thought,

00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:07.460
you know what, we're going to run right over

00:55:07.460 --> 00:55:12.679
them. And I was, I was not familiar with your

00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:15.920
style of football back then, obviously like more

00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.260
so now. But. I knew you had Dequa and he was,

00:55:21.340 --> 00:55:24.519
you know, you had some big name guys that were

00:55:24.519 --> 00:55:30.260
in USL previous. And so I thought, you know,

00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:33.380
hey, we're flying high. Like you said, we're

00:55:33.380 --> 00:55:35.579
going to take care of business. We had a healthy

00:55:35.579 --> 00:55:39.320
roster at the time. That didn't last very long.

00:55:39.380 --> 00:55:42.940
But yeah, I honestly thought it was just going

00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:46.079
to be a. you know, steamrolling. And I was wrong.

00:55:46.139 --> 00:55:48.900
It was such a competitive and physical game.

00:55:49.579 --> 00:55:53.139
So that was my thoughts on when you guys first

00:55:53.139 --> 00:55:55.460
came out here to Seaside to play at Cardinale

00:55:55.460 --> 00:55:58.119
Stadium. Jason, do you remember that game at

00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.440
this point? Or is it just too many minutes too

00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:03.960
long ago? It is a long time ago. But now that

00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.079
we're talking about it, I'm like, I'm kind of

00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:08.260
like playing through some of the scenes in my

00:56:08.260 --> 00:56:11.420
head. I think didn't they Monterey Bay score

00:56:11.420 --> 00:56:14.179
off a free kick or something or at least a set

00:56:14.179 --> 00:56:17.260
piece something? There was I just remember one

00:56:17.260 --> 00:56:20.340
where the corner flag was blowing. It was literally

00:56:20.340 --> 00:56:22.719
horizontal to the pitch because the wind was

00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.579
like 21 miles an hour. And I do remember Tristan

00:56:26.579 --> 00:56:31.219
Traeger had a like phenomenal run. And basically

00:56:31.219 --> 00:56:33.900
he created his own chance and then scored a goal.

00:56:34.059 --> 00:56:36.440
So I remember the Traeger goal more than anything.

00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:39.599
And then that flag. all in all still good times

00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.380
it was so exciting and uh it led you know some

00:56:42.380 --> 00:56:46.199
success for us maybe maybe not so much for you

00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:48.300
and so that's why we want you on here chris we

00:56:48.300 --> 00:56:51.400
want you to set the record straight First and

00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.519
foremost, can you get our listeners up to speed

00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.739
on what's been going in this new Jordan Stewart

00:56:56.739 --> 00:57:00.159
era? This team feels like it's completely transformed

00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:02.059
from where you were, even though the table results

00:57:02.059 --> 00:57:04.639
were about the same from this point in the league

00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.119
standings last year. This is a completely different

00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.489
team, if I understand correctly. Yeah, thank

00:57:10.489 --> 00:57:15.309
you. It is absolutely, completely, I mean, not

00:57:15.309 --> 00:57:19.230
100 % as far as personnel, but everything else

00:57:19.230 --> 00:57:22.809
from, you know, our crest, our crest is different

00:57:22.809 --> 00:57:29.980
now. There is a new attitude. Like I told you

00:57:29.980 --> 00:57:32.820
guys, we interview players every week. We've

00:57:32.820 --> 00:57:35.380
interviewed Jordan Stewart six times. We're going

00:57:35.380 --> 00:57:37.739
to interview him next week. And there is just

00:57:37.739 --> 00:57:43.659
a different vibe in the dressing room as far

00:57:43.659 --> 00:57:49.420
as players and the synergy. From a tactical standpoint,

00:57:49.820 --> 00:57:53.059
it's a new look as well. I think Jordan Stewart

00:57:53.059 --> 00:57:57.519
did a wonderful job. like scouting the globe

00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.039
to find guys that were going to fit his system

00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:03.500
um we filled every international slot and it

00:58:03.500 --> 00:58:06.599
wasn't just like oh this guy's an international

00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:10.460
player it was like hey we're on the the plane

00:58:10.460 --> 00:58:13.300
we're headed over to you know sweden to pick

00:58:13.300 --> 00:58:18.449
this guy up um and so It's such an attractive

00:58:18.449 --> 00:58:22.690
brand of football. I have notes, and I don't

00:58:22.690 --> 00:58:26.710
want to keep looking down, but bringing on Jeremy

00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:30.210
Clark, who was his first assistant when he was

00:58:30.210 --> 00:58:33.610
at the Town FC, which is the San Jose Earthquakes

00:58:33.610 --> 00:58:38.619
MLS Next Pro team. You know, using those connections,

00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:43.139
bringing some of those guys in and just bolstering

00:58:43.139 --> 00:58:46.280
the roster for his style. Because if you recall,

00:58:46.780 --> 00:58:49.280
I mean, maybe you do, you don't, I don't know.

00:58:49.340 --> 00:58:53.920
But Frank Yollop was relieved, you know, midway

00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:56.679
through last season. And Jordan came on and played

00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:00.610
what did his best with the guys that. frank had

00:59:00.610 --> 00:59:03.809
brought in but after the season was over uh he

00:59:03.809 --> 00:59:09.250
got to work we promoted simon dawkins um so he's

00:59:09.250 --> 00:59:12.449
the guy that's i mean literally cell phone glued

00:59:12.449 --> 00:59:15.130
to his ear at all times during the off season

00:59:15.130 --> 00:59:19.650
um and he's this new sporting director more or

00:59:19.650 --> 00:59:24.789
less and so um it's amazing to see you know this

00:59:25.530 --> 00:59:29.429
Going from what we knew Frank's system was to

00:59:29.429 --> 00:59:33.230
seeing Jordan's system and just how it works

00:59:33.230 --> 00:59:36.909
and the intricacies of it and everything. I think

00:59:36.909 --> 00:59:41.989
we have three or four returning players and that's

00:59:41.989 --> 00:59:45.690
it. It was almost a full wipe of everyone that

00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:49.429
we had. Definitely new look and a really, really

00:59:49.429 --> 00:59:52.630
new feel. The energy in the stadium is incredible.

00:59:53.230 --> 00:59:57.619
We're excited. If we could get Kano at that level

00:59:57.619 --> 01:00:00.039
of access, I think he would kill at least me.

01:00:00.099 --> 01:00:02.280
He loves you a lot, Jason. I think Kano Smith

01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.280
would put his hands on my neck. Do you remember

01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:07.980
what game was it that Frank Yallop was at? Was

01:00:07.980 --> 01:00:10.460
it right before? It was the game right after

01:00:10.460 --> 01:00:12.599
he got sacked. So a lot of people don't know

01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:14.820
this. Again, we've got stories for years when

01:00:14.820 --> 01:00:17.400
we write our memoirs, Jason. But Frank Yallop,

01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.019
for some reason, was at the game immediately

01:00:21.019 --> 01:00:24.480
following his release from Monterey Bay. at burn

01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.380
stadium and i did the double take and i i leaned

01:00:27.380 --> 01:00:31.500
into someone and said i that could be la galaxy

01:00:31.500 --> 01:00:34.119
legend frank yallop i i didn't give monterey

01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:36.179
bay the credit it deserved at the time i apologize

01:00:36.179 --> 01:00:38.719
and i said yeah that's frank and then and then

01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:40.679
the wheels start turning like why in the world

01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.559
is frank yallop at a game at a college town at

01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:47.219
a college stadium in smithfield what's going

01:00:47.219 --> 01:00:50.369
on and Don't know what happened from it. I don't

01:00:50.369 --> 01:00:52.730
know why his curiosity was piqued. But he came

01:00:52.730 --> 01:00:54.690
out, watched the game, talked with the front

01:00:54.690 --> 01:00:57.710
office, talked with the technical team. And I

01:00:57.710 --> 01:00:59.510
don't know what Frank Gallup has done since then.

01:00:59.550 --> 01:01:01.650
But yeah, Frank Gallup, just for some reason,

01:01:01.690 --> 01:01:03.489
the first thing he wanted to do was come back

01:01:03.489 --> 01:01:05.210
to Rhode Island FC after you guys let him go.

01:01:05.389 --> 01:01:07.469
So thanks for that. Maybe we made a big impression

01:01:07.469 --> 01:01:12.929
on him. So, Chris, it sounds like there's been

01:01:12.929 --> 01:01:14.829
this transformation. And I do want to tie that

01:01:14.829 --> 01:01:17.769
into the brand reset in a bit. But tactically,

01:01:17.809 --> 01:01:20.170
if you can just kind of get us level set, we'll

01:01:20.170 --> 01:01:21.869
talk about the lineups here in just a minute.

01:01:21.929 --> 01:01:25.389
But overall, what's been the big adjustment in

01:01:25.389 --> 01:01:27.510
comparison to what we saw from this team last

01:01:27.510 --> 01:01:30.329
year in compared to now what Stewart's created?

01:01:30.449 --> 01:01:33.710
Is it the same style? Formationally, not so much

01:01:33.710 --> 01:01:35.269
worried, but is this going to be the same type

01:01:35.269 --> 01:01:38.170
of play style that we saw? Or are we in for something

01:01:38.170 --> 01:01:41.570
completely new on Saturday? I'd say completely

01:01:41.570 --> 01:01:45.710
new. Obviously, you know, 4 -4 -2 is not something

01:01:45.710 --> 01:01:51.260
that's you know, out of the realm of what Frank

01:01:51.260 --> 01:01:54.039
was running. But Frank was very expansive. He

01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:59.320
would, I mean, side to side all the way up until

01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:01.739
we get in and he'd send service into the box.

01:02:01.900 --> 01:02:04.159
Whereas with Jordan, guys, you're going to see

01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:08.659
a lot of overlapping runs on the outsides. But

01:02:08.659 --> 01:02:15.489
then... A lot of direct balls through the middle

01:02:15.489 --> 01:02:18.369
as well, and I know that in the last couple of

01:02:18.369 --> 01:02:20.590
games we've kind of gotten away from that, but

01:02:20.590 --> 01:02:26.389
we have such firepower up front now. I was listening

01:02:26.389 --> 01:02:29.289
to your guys' show earlier talking about how,

01:02:29.389 --> 01:02:31.769
you know, there's a problem with you have so

01:02:31.769 --> 01:02:34.489
much talent and you have to sit some of it, and

01:02:34.489 --> 01:02:39.929
that's kind of where we're at as well. So overlapping

01:02:39.929 --> 01:02:42.530
runs, you're going to see definitely building

01:02:42.530 --> 01:02:45.530
up out of the back, heavy, heavy possession -based

01:02:45.530 --> 01:02:51.789
football. We've struggled against a high press,

01:02:52.010 --> 01:02:55.010
and so that's one of the things that Jordan needs

01:02:55.010 --> 01:02:58.489
to address. I mean, I'm sure he knows it. I'm

01:02:58.489 --> 01:03:00.349
not saying anything he doesn't already know.

01:03:02.090 --> 01:03:06.429
It is exciting football, and I'm excited for

01:03:06.429 --> 01:03:11.050
you guys to see it on Saturday. That makes none

01:03:11.050 --> 01:03:14.630
of us on this side. I think back when we first

01:03:14.630 --> 01:03:18.429
saw the lineups of these two teams in December

01:03:18.429 --> 01:03:21.170
when the schedule was released, and I shouldn't

01:03:21.170 --> 01:03:22.949
have disrespected you, Chris, but I was like,

01:03:22.989 --> 01:03:27.619
okay, I'll take a team that hasn't... made the

01:03:27.619 --> 01:03:29.780
playoffs uh i'll take that as our second ever

01:03:29.780 --> 01:03:32.079
home game san antonio they were on the outside

01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:35.340
looking like completely disheveled and uh nobody

01:03:35.340 --> 01:03:38.099
knew what they would do and lo and behold we

01:03:38.099 --> 01:03:40.340
end up having to play against the first and second

01:03:40.829 --> 01:03:43.650
I know you guys are tied on points and in third

01:03:43.650 --> 01:03:47.050
technically, but it goes to figure that we finally

01:03:47.050 --> 01:03:48.650
get our home games and we're stacked up against

01:03:48.650 --> 01:03:50.690
the best talent in the Western Conference right

01:03:50.690 --> 01:03:53.269
now. So there's an irony that is not lost on

01:03:53.269 --> 01:03:56.150
us about how well you guys have been doing. And

01:03:56.150 --> 01:03:58.190
I apologize for not believing in you back in

01:03:58.190 --> 01:04:01.769
December. That's on me. Hey, you're not the only

01:04:01.769 --> 01:04:07.710
one. Obviously, some of our friends at USL Tactics

01:04:07.710 --> 01:04:11.210
were... We couldn't get... We couldn't get any

01:04:11.210 --> 01:04:13.070
love. Say the names, Chris. Say the names. They're

01:04:13.070 --> 01:04:15.170
here listening, probably. Say the names. It's

01:04:15.170 --> 01:04:17.849
okay. We don't shy away from calling people out.

01:04:18.210 --> 01:04:22.170
You can say John or Kaler. It's okay. John, we

01:04:22.170 --> 01:04:26.010
couldn't get any love until the OC game. And

01:04:26.010 --> 01:04:29.349
we came out and, I mean, put on a clinic against...

01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:32.980
At the time, we were like, hey, it's OC. They're

01:04:32.980 --> 01:04:36.019
consistent year after year. And we absolutely

01:04:36.019 --> 01:04:39.139
dominated that game. And it was from there that

01:04:39.139 --> 01:04:42.500
I think him and others started looking at the

01:04:42.500 --> 01:04:46.539
pieces that we had and saw the potential. And

01:04:46.539 --> 01:04:49.739
I think that we're kind of getting to that point.

01:04:51.099 --> 01:04:54.760
John takes bribes. You just have to give him

01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:57.579
Jaeger. Yeah, don't tell about the Jaeger shot

01:04:57.579 --> 01:05:01.039
secrets. All right, so let's get into these current

01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:02.699
standings. I had them up for a while and realized

01:05:02.699 --> 01:05:06.079
I put them up too early. Classic editor folly

01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:10.139
here. But RIFC remains in 10th place in the Eastern

01:05:10.139 --> 01:05:12.980
Conference. We love this position. I feel like

01:05:12.980 --> 01:05:16.360
this is just like our home. base for extended

01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.559
periods of time we like to be on the outside

01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:20.780
looking in yeah we just want to see how the party's

01:05:20.780 --> 01:05:23.920
going and then make our late arrival into a playoff

01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.840
run uh right now they're now sitting on a one

01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:30.019
two and three record even after last week's draw

01:05:30.019 --> 01:05:33.139
with just five points across their first six

01:05:33.139 --> 01:05:36.440
regular season matches they now only have 0 .83

01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:39.880
points per game the lowest that we've ever had

01:05:40.800 --> 01:05:43.280
Again, it's an index where just one game can

01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:46.500
adjust it to the 2024 numbers. But right now,

01:05:46.500 --> 01:05:48.920
not looking as well as we'd like, despite some

01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:51.659
of the tremendous performances we've seen on

01:05:51.659 --> 01:05:54.869
the pitch. I said this earlier and some people,

01:05:54.909 --> 01:05:56.530
someone just said in the chat, we need to work

01:05:56.530 --> 01:05:58.769
on our defense. But technically, we have the

01:05:58.769 --> 01:06:01.090
third best defense in the Eastern Conference

01:06:01.090 --> 01:06:04.130
when you look at goals allowed so far this season.

01:06:04.210 --> 01:06:06.150
I know it doesn't feel like it because combined

01:06:06.150 --> 01:06:08.050
with that, we also have a negative three goal

01:06:08.050 --> 01:06:10.829
differential. So when we've only scored five

01:06:10.829 --> 01:06:13.309
goals, we also have the second worst offense

01:06:13.309 --> 01:06:16.670
in the league. Jason, by talking strictly on

01:06:16.670 --> 01:06:19.170
goals, not on all the other metrics that can

01:06:19.170 --> 01:06:21.489
lead up to it. The only team we're better than

01:06:21.489 --> 01:06:23.929
in the entire league right now is Hartford Athletics.

01:06:23.929 --> 01:06:27.630
So, I mean, we got that going for us. Meanwhile,

01:06:27.849 --> 01:06:30.309
Monterey Bay currently sitting at the top of

01:06:30.309 --> 01:06:32.809
the West. They've slid, like I said, into third

01:06:32.809 --> 01:06:35.550
place because of goal differential. But tied

01:06:35.550 --> 01:06:38.750
with New Mexico United at 15 points, they've

01:06:38.750 --> 01:06:40.849
been flying high. Chris, you must be having so

01:06:40.849 --> 01:06:42.769
much pride in this team now as they sit on a

01:06:42.769 --> 01:06:46.730
4 -2 -2 record, led by the masterclass in defense

01:06:46.730 --> 01:06:50.210
of not just the back four, but Nico Campuzano,

01:06:50.309 --> 01:06:54.610
who's just... I guess we have to talk at length

01:06:54.610 --> 01:06:57.210
about him tonight. They've limited the scoring

01:06:57.210 --> 01:06:59.869
against Monterey. Monterey right now only allowing

01:06:59.869 --> 01:07:04.380
0 .8 goals conceded per 90. that is like technically

01:07:04.380 --> 01:07:06.599
louisville has the better stat on it but when

01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:08.860
you look at the total number of shots faced by

01:07:08.860 --> 01:07:10.880
monterey bay because i would say i would argue

01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:12.840
monterey is not as strong as louisville i mean

01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.900
louisville is the the penultimate in this standard

01:07:15.900 --> 01:07:18.900
yeah and if we and also too if we if we opened

01:07:18.900 --> 01:07:21.719
the books financially we know the money between

01:07:21.719 --> 01:07:24.820
these two organizations monterey bay absolutely

01:07:24.820 --> 01:07:28.920
just playing with an intensity and a fire that

01:07:29.309 --> 01:07:31.650
It's really exciting to see. So really excited

01:07:31.650 --> 01:07:33.630
to unpack that. Before we get into the injury

01:07:33.630 --> 01:07:36.150
and availability report, Jason, what did we learn

01:07:36.150 --> 01:07:39.289
about the pro ref situation for this week's match?

01:07:39.750 --> 01:07:42.489
Yeah, so the ref assignment for this game, the

01:07:42.489 --> 01:07:45.989
head ref here is JC Griggs. Assistant ref one

01:07:45.989 --> 01:07:51.489
is Sun Yinka Kenhide. Assistant ref two is Justin

01:07:51.489 --> 01:07:54.949
Lopez. And the fourth official will be Andrew

01:07:54.949 --> 01:07:59.829
Parada. Head ref John Griggs is only, oversaw

01:07:59.829 --> 01:08:03.889
two championship games this season um but he

01:08:03.889 --> 01:08:07.309
kind of like so far has been allowing the game

01:08:07.309 --> 01:08:10.369
to flow allowing it to play kind of under indexing

01:08:10.369 --> 01:08:14.550
on fouls issued uh in the fourth highest tolerance

01:08:14.550 --> 01:08:17.350
of going into the pocket averaging eight fouls

01:08:17.350 --> 01:08:19.850
per card it'll be interesting to see with rhode

01:08:19.850 --> 01:08:21.989
island's physicality i'm not quite sure chris

01:08:21.989 --> 01:08:26.640
how physical Monterey has been this season we've

01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:28.699
always been an aggressive team and we've seen

01:08:28.699 --> 01:08:31.640
now that hurt us just most recently this past

01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:35.439
week with with Alyssa Nichols on her second game

01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:37.880
of watching over Rhode Island FC this year really

01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:41.239
seemed to stop the flow to you know pause and

01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.340
reset for foul calling it wasn't a high card

01:08:44.340 --> 01:08:46.220
game we haven't seen a lot of cards in terms

01:08:46.220 --> 01:08:48.380
of yellow accumulation this season we've had

01:08:48.380 --> 01:08:51.909
a nasty bout with some keeping our heads out

01:08:51.909 --> 01:08:53.890
of trouble with the red card situation that we

01:08:53.890 --> 01:08:56.489
have going on but uh this ref for all intent

01:08:56.489 --> 01:08:58.630
seems to be john griggs seems to be someone who's

01:08:58.630 --> 01:09:00.869
going to let this game open up and play as long

01:09:00.869 --> 01:09:03.029
as you know they're not doing stupid things how

01:09:03.029 --> 01:09:06.189
has monterey's physicality been so far this season

01:09:06.189 --> 01:09:11.689
um You know, I would say that a referee that's

01:09:11.689 --> 01:09:13.810
going to allow a game to play is going to favor

01:09:13.810 --> 01:09:17.529
Rhode Island. You guys, I mean, clearly a physical

01:09:17.529 --> 01:09:22.529
team. Our back line is pretty stout, and our

01:09:22.529 --> 01:09:29.159
wing play can be pretty physical. all in all

01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:32.760
i would have to say it definitely favors you

01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:35.979
we're we're not arsenal where it's like a bag

01:09:35.979 --> 01:09:38.659
of marshmallows that you can just kick around

01:09:38.659 --> 01:09:42.800
but um you know we'll hold our own on the back

01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:47.579
line um our size is is something that i think

01:09:47.579 --> 01:09:50.199
is going to play into this game in a major way

01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:55.100
so um that's all i got there no that's that's

01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:58.369
perfect and and We've got a very big player who's

01:09:58.369 --> 01:10:00.649
going to dominate in Amos Shapiro Thompson, so

01:10:00.649 --> 01:10:03.770
watch out for him a little later in this game.

01:10:03.890 --> 01:10:06.550
But let's get to the availability report. Isaac

01:10:06.550 --> 01:10:09.890
Anking still out with that injury that he's been

01:10:09.890 --> 01:10:12.369
treating since last year against Detroit. Talked

01:10:12.369 --> 01:10:14.750
to him at the game. He said it in front of fans,

01:10:14.829 --> 01:10:17.369
so I can now say it because I don't like sharing.

01:10:17.510 --> 01:10:19.970
When players talk to me and it's not in front

01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:22.010
of the communications director or it's not in

01:10:22.010 --> 01:10:24.930
front of Coach Kano, I don't say it. Believe

01:10:24.930 --> 01:10:28.140
it or not. We heard again from Kevin Callahan

01:10:28.140 --> 01:10:30.659
about Hugo Baturak's injury from a bathroom.

01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.560
We've known the exact date for a while, but it's

01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:35.199
just not our place if they don't share it to

01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.460
us in an official capacity. And we don't want

01:10:37.460 --> 01:10:40.539
to burn those bridges. So Isaac Anking has been

01:10:40.539 --> 01:10:44.680
on the record now saying to fans that he's looking

01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:48.520
for an end of May return, at least to be cleared

01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.460
by the medicos and be able to start actually

01:10:51.460 --> 01:10:54.079
being available for full contact and starting

01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:55.720
to really get the minutes in the... fitness and

01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.859
so technically after may 31st any opportunity

01:10:58.859 --> 01:11:01.359
he could be cleared he could be available I still

01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:03.840
don't think we see him any earlier than maybe

01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:07.340
end of June. But there seems to be a desire to

01:11:07.340 --> 01:11:09.380
at least maybe be able to make a dressing for

01:11:09.380 --> 01:11:11.760
his Puerto Rican national team when they come

01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:13.500
to Centerville Bank Stadium. So that's exciting.

01:11:13.859 --> 01:11:16.039
We've already talked at length about Hugo Baturak.

01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:17.439
He's still going to be out for about another

01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.279
five weeks at a minimum. Danny Revere getting

01:11:20.279 --> 01:11:22.560
closer should be around that three -week window

01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:24.579
before we'll see him take the pitch possibly

01:11:24.579 --> 01:11:27.420
for the first time. No update on J .J. Williams.

01:11:27.659 --> 01:11:30.199
Again, I'm saying end of July until I hear a...

01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:33.119
a more favorable number that brings him back

01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:36.079
into the action closer. Mark still a little bit

01:11:36.079 --> 01:11:38.380
limping, no boot on him when I saw him last night.

01:11:38.739 --> 01:11:40.600
And that was three days removed from the home

01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:43.439
game. So he could be closer. I would say anywhere

01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:45.939
from two to three weeks, maybe as well. It could

01:11:45.939 --> 01:11:48.279
be sooner though. Just, just judging by his mobility

01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:50.640
and then Kree for, yeah, we don't have the update

01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:53.640
because we saw he wasn't available for the open

01:11:53.640 --> 01:11:55.720
cup game because of red card discipline. And

01:11:55.720 --> 01:11:57.420
we haven't yet heard about it. And I haven't

01:11:57.420 --> 01:12:00.430
seen him. I saw him after the game. just walking

01:12:00.430 --> 01:12:03.409
around and based upon absolutely no medical training

01:12:03.409 --> 01:12:06.680
at all i say he's fine You played a TV doctor

01:12:06.680 --> 01:12:10.380
once, but that's perfectly fine. So that's where

01:12:10.380 --> 01:12:13.180
we're at on those. Coach Conner, as of the end

01:12:13.180 --> 01:12:15.960
of the game, he hadn't heard about any injuries

01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:18.220
or things like that. He did mention that these

01:12:18.220 --> 01:12:21.180
players need to be very mindful of their recoveries,

01:12:21.180 --> 01:12:22.779
what they're eating, what they're drinking, and

01:12:22.779 --> 01:12:25.479
be ready for this long stint of minutes that

01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:27.319
are going to be put on these legs and on these

01:12:27.319 --> 01:12:30.260
bodies over the next week. But nothing else at

01:12:30.260 --> 01:12:31.600
this point that we're aware of. And unfortunately,

01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:33.750
we won't know until... potentially like a media

01:12:33.750 --> 01:12:35.810
day tomorrow so that news might have to come

01:12:35.810 --> 01:12:38.250
a little later chris on the monterey bay side

01:12:38.250 --> 01:12:40.510
what is the availability are there any players

01:12:40.510 --> 01:12:43.289
that we would likely not see that should be traveling

01:12:43.289 --> 01:12:45.149
i know you had reported earlier today that they

01:12:45.149 --> 01:12:47.909
were already on their way to the lovely state

01:12:47.909 --> 01:12:50.630
of rhode island what do you know about uh the

01:12:50.630 --> 01:12:55.210
situation there um i believe diego gutierrez

01:12:55.210 --> 01:13:00.289
still um rehabbing i know he has been spotted

01:13:00.289 --> 01:13:03.829
in training i don't know if he's like 100 right

01:13:03.829 --> 01:13:08.170
now he hasn't played yet um alex dixon same thing

01:13:08.170 --> 01:13:11.489
the the grizzled vet uh went down a couple weeks

01:13:11.489 --> 01:13:14.689
ago and he wasn't listed on the injury report

01:13:14.689 --> 01:13:20.609
last week um neither was um or no anton soyberg

01:13:20.609 --> 01:13:24.229
half of the viking twins he was out last week

01:13:24.229 --> 01:13:28.109
but According to our sources, he should be available

01:13:28.109 --> 01:13:32.029
for selection this week. So you should see a

01:13:32.029 --> 01:13:35.750
pretty healthy squad showing up on Saturday.

01:13:36.890 --> 01:13:38.409
Excellent. All right, well, then let's get into

01:13:38.409 --> 01:13:40.789
our predictions. Guaranteed to be wrong. Jason,

01:13:40.810 --> 01:13:42.829
walk us through what we think the starting 11

01:13:42.829 --> 01:13:44.109
is going to look like for the Rhode Island side.

01:13:44.329 --> 01:13:46.869
Yeah, so as we head back into a league match

01:13:46.869 --> 01:13:51.220
now, we will see Koke Vegas in net. The back

01:13:51.220 --> 01:13:53.659
four, in terms of defense, seems to be what we're

01:13:53.659 --> 01:13:56.479
going to continue there with Rio Hope Gunn there

01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:00.399
in that kind of right -back position, Grant Stoneman

01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.979
and Frank Nodarce there, and then with Aldair

01:14:03.979 --> 01:14:07.420
Sanchez finishing out that back line. With how

01:14:07.420 --> 01:14:09.960
good of a performance he's put in, we think that

01:14:09.960 --> 01:14:12.239
Amos Shapiro -Thompson is going to play in that

01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.140
holding midfielder there right next to Clay Holstad.

01:14:17.229 --> 01:14:19.649
Three wingers slash cams, however you want to

01:14:19.649 --> 01:14:23.090
call that there, with Noah Fuson, Maxi Rodriguez,

01:14:23.390 --> 01:14:29.090
and then Jojaya Quisera with the one and only

01:14:29.090 --> 01:14:32.810
Chico up top. On the bench here, we'll probably

01:14:32.810 --> 01:14:36.949
have Haribo, Aimé Mavica, Taimou Okiyoshi, Kevin

01:14:36.949 --> 01:14:40.470
Vang, Cole Dewhurst, and Jackson Lee. Looks like

01:14:40.470 --> 01:14:43.210
we can kind of field a full bench there. Something

01:14:43.210 --> 01:14:47.409
we couldn't do for all of our coaches. It's good

01:14:47.409 --> 01:14:50.810
to see it. I think, you know, maybe the big interchange

01:14:50.810 --> 01:14:53.270
just for the minutes managed so far is we could

01:14:53.270 --> 01:14:56.109
see Zach, who definitely came on a little later.

01:14:56.229 --> 01:14:59.350
I could see him substitute in for Amos Shapiro

01:14:59.350 --> 01:15:02.090
Thompson or even Maxi Rodriguez. if there's a

01:15:02.090 --> 01:15:06.109
need to reduce the wear and tear. Do you think

01:15:06.109 --> 01:15:08.510
Mbika is close enough to start getting a start?

01:15:09.109 --> 01:15:12.069
Grant Stoneman, I watched him spraying cold water

01:15:12.069 --> 01:15:14.350
on his knees as he was walking off in the halftime

01:15:14.350 --> 01:15:16.710
of the Open Cup match. I know that that man is

01:15:16.710 --> 01:15:18.590
putting... It feels like he's been a broken man

01:15:18.590 --> 01:15:20.750
for a long time. He's been held together by KT

01:15:20.750 --> 01:15:25.069
Tape, and he really needs some healthy... Center

01:15:25.069 --> 01:15:27.810
backs to give him a rest. I mean, and we could

01:15:27.810 --> 01:15:29.369
see Kriva, yeah, because like you said, you just

01:15:29.369 --> 01:15:31.270
reported that he's completely fit and ready to

01:15:31.270 --> 01:15:34.970
go. I mean, based upon nothing, but yeah. Mbika

01:15:34.970 --> 01:15:36.850
looked good in the short amount of time that

01:15:36.850 --> 01:15:40.409
we saw him out there. I don't think they would

01:15:40.409 --> 01:15:42.470
completely throw him into the fire like that.

01:15:42.529 --> 01:15:44.689
Maybe we'll, what did he play? Maybe 10 -ish,

01:15:44.710 --> 01:15:47.170
15 minutes? 10, 15 minutes, yeah. Maybe we'll

01:15:47.170 --> 01:15:50.630
see 30 or maybe even a full half of him if we,

01:15:50.710 --> 01:15:53.470
you know, like. Start off with Stoneman or something

01:15:53.470 --> 01:15:55.630
and throw Mbika on the second half. Yeah, and

01:15:55.630 --> 01:15:57.470
then I'm not convinced Chico plays more than

01:15:57.470 --> 01:16:00.529
the first 45 unless we really feel like we need

01:16:00.529 --> 01:16:03.460
to. We need to keep him on. Maybe he goes 60,

01:16:03.539 --> 01:16:05.239
but again, there's plenty of other games. He's

01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:07.439
coming back from injury. We've got another midweek

01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:10.800
game next week. And we have super sub Joe Brito,

01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:12.539
which we're going to talk about here in just

01:16:12.539 --> 01:16:14.600
a second when we profile these players. But I

01:16:14.600 --> 01:16:16.840
think this is as close to as wrong as we can

01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:19.420
possibly be. Chris, let's walk through the Monterey

01:16:19.420 --> 01:16:22.439
Bay side here now. I have them set in the 4 -1

01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:24.760
-3 -2 that they play when they have their possession.

01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:27.279
But like you had said, they kind of go into the

01:16:27.279 --> 01:16:30.189
gentleman's game at that 4 -4 -2. But walk us

01:16:30.189 --> 01:16:32.369
through what you believe will be the starting

01:16:32.369 --> 01:16:35.949
11 for Monterey Bay here. Yeah, so the back line,

01:16:36.050 --> 01:16:38.670
obviously you're going to have Nico Gordon and

01:16:38.670 --> 01:16:41.989
Carlos Guzman kind of anchoring in the center.

01:16:42.149 --> 01:16:48.470
And then on the outside, Gadiri and Lyons. And,

01:16:48.630 --> 01:16:50.989
you know, they're going to rotate depending on

01:16:50.989 --> 01:16:53.840
the side of the field the ball is on. you know,

01:16:53.840 --> 01:16:56.039
effectively they'll run three across the back,

01:16:56.180 --> 01:17:00.060
but, um, Wesley Fonguck in the middle, and he

01:17:00.060 --> 01:17:02.880
is going to be the linchpin, um, for that entire

01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:07.979
offense. And then, uh, midfield, um, male Malongo,

01:17:08.220 --> 01:17:12.119
Adrian Rebelar, Shavi Nalati, and then up front,

01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:17.380
Elijah Paul and, um, Luther Archimed, who is

01:17:17.380 --> 01:17:23.079
just back from, uh, knee surgery that man took,

01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:25.880
almost a whole year for him to get back, but

01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:29.460
we're excited. And, you know, our thought, I

01:17:29.460 --> 01:17:31.819
discussed this with Andrew before coming on,

01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:35.340
and our thought is we're opting for size here.

01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:38.039
We're trying to get our biggest bodies out there

01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.100
to kind of hang with the big boys, I guess, over

01:17:41.100 --> 01:17:45.939
in Rhode Island. So Archimede and Paul are...

01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:48.619
big dudes that should match up well against your

01:17:48.619 --> 01:17:51.779
center backs who are like former NFL tight ends,

01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:56.619
it looks like. But yeah, you should have available

01:17:56.619 --> 01:18:00.720
off the bench. You should have Ivanovich, who

01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:03.720
possibly could be starting in the same spot that

01:18:03.720 --> 01:18:06.560
Archimed is. He's a bigger guy, just doesn't

01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:09.760
have quite the mass. You'll have Adam Larson.

01:18:11.479 --> 01:18:14.140
Soyberg is another option that's going to be

01:18:14.140 --> 01:18:17.479
available. Grant Robinson possibly a bit available

01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:22.180
as a wingback. And then, of course, your favorite,

01:18:22.260 --> 01:18:25.239
Nico Camposano between the sticks back there.

01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:32.220
uh not my favorite whatsoever chris so let's

01:18:32.220 --> 01:18:34.520
let's get into it we had these player profiles

01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:37.260
all written out because we didn't know at first

01:18:37.260 --> 01:18:39.439
if we were going to be able to get you for the

01:18:39.439 --> 01:18:41.720
show so we start doing these things where we

01:18:41.720 --> 01:18:44.239
start breaking down the key players i feel really

01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:46.060
bad for producer torn because he started working

01:18:46.060 --> 01:18:49.600
on some really good um on pieces and like when

01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.880
i look at nico's track record It's insane. He's

01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:56.880
the busiest goalkeeper of the league this year,

01:18:56.939 --> 01:19:01.380
34 saves. He's indexing over 50 % more than his

01:19:01.380 --> 01:19:05.520
closest counterpart in Jake McGuire of NCFC or

01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:08.039
Van Ockel at Birmingham Legion, which if you

01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.220
go back to Birmingham Legion last year, Kaler

01:19:11.220 --> 01:19:13.779
Hodges almost had to be the keeper for Birmingham

01:19:13.779 --> 01:19:18.560
Legion. So that's just to me an insane stat.

01:19:18.699 --> 01:19:22.060
But in addition to that, The fact of the matter

01:19:22.060 --> 01:19:24.659
is that when you look at his save percentage,

01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:30.399
he's at 82 .9%. And that's over like 22 % higher

01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:33.340
than the rest of the keepers in the league combined

01:19:33.340 --> 01:19:36.899
on averages. I want to jump right into this with

01:19:36.899 --> 01:19:39.020
this kid. And of course, by the way, he's a New

01:19:39.020 --> 01:19:41.739
England Revolution product. And say what you

01:19:41.739 --> 01:19:44.289
want about the Revs. but they know how to produce

01:19:44.289 --> 01:19:48.189
good keepers. They have created a very good system

01:19:48.189 --> 01:19:51.029
of identifying talent and then selling it on.

01:19:51.130 --> 01:19:53.789
So the fact that Nico is doing this well and

01:19:53.789 --> 01:19:55.310
that they didn't hold on to him, I wonder if

01:19:55.310 --> 01:19:58.109
someone's like, maybe we finally got one wrong

01:19:58.109 --> 01:20:01.350
here. Chris, talk us through this. There's no

01:20:01.350 --> 01:20:03.329
way this kid is this good. There's just no way.

01:20:03.930 --> 01:20:06.770
There's got to be a correction to the average.

01:20:07.010 --> 01:20:08.989
Regression to the mean. Yeah, it's a pendulum.

01:20:09.090 --> 01:20:10.770
He's got to be swinging back at any point. There's

01:20:10.770 --> 01:20:12.859
no way this kid's standing on his head. every

01:20:12.859 --> 01:20:15.100
single game for 90 minutes? Or are we completely

01:20:15.100 --> 01:20:18.340
wrong and he's the real deal? So I'll tell you

01:20:18.340 --> 01:20:21.359
guys, if you look at the history of our club,

01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:26.619
you have more or less you had Carlos Herrera,

01:20:26.699 --> 01:20:30.600
literally like an unknown, and you had Anthony

01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.680
Ciaha. Again, they found him in a park in San

01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:37.680
Diego just hanging around, and they signed him.

01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:43.060
I don't know what it is, but they have a knack.

01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:46.140
Because if you look at Camposano prior to coming

01:20:46.140 --> 01:20:49.300
to us, it was like, I don't know, he had like

01:20:49.300 --> 01:20:52.119
three minutes over the last season or something.

01:20:53.640 --> 01:20:56.680
He's a great guy. He takes really good care of

01:20:56.680 --> 01:21:02.119
his body, yoga every day. Our entire goalkeeper

01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:04.140
core, I don't know if that's what you want to

01:21:04.140 --> 01:21:09.310
call it, but those guys, you know. the competition

01:21:09.310 --> 01:21:12.310
high tide raises all boats and those guys are

01:21:12.310 --> 01:21:15.710
constantly battling um during practice they're

01:21:15.710 --> 01:21:17.569
always the ones that are late when we get there

01:21:17.569 --> 01:21:19.649
for interviews we're like hey guys can you hold

01:21:19.649 --> 01:21:23.250
it down um but man they're fierce competitors

01:21:23.250 --> 01:21:27.289
and i mean if the pendulum does swing it's going

01:21:27.289 --> 01:21:31.590
to be after the game against you guys so i don't

01:21:31.590 --> 01:21:35.449
know he's uh he he really is a legitimate talent

01:21:35.449 --> 01:21:39.079
and i think that's um you know, a nod to our

01:21:39.079 --> 01:21:42.500
scouting that we did on him. And the fact that,

01:21:42.500 --> 01:21:44.680
you know, he's a guy we like to build out of

01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:48.720
the back. He's good on the ball. From time to

01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:51.760
time, he'll make me a little uncomfortable as

01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:55.800
far as challenging and oncoming, you know, center

01:21:55.800 --> 01:22:02.279
forward or whatnot. But he, his, I guess the

01:22:02.279 --> 01:22:04.819
thing that sets him apart is it's like a hair

01:22:04.819 --> 01:22:08.720
trigger. Like, we joke, like, if a fly buzzes

01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:12.340
past his head, he's going to dive. And it's just

01:22:12.340 --> 01:22:18.260
so quick. And I don't know. I guess that's the

01:22:18.260 --> 01:22:21.420
secret sauce or something. But he's a legitimate

01:22:21.420 --> 01:22:25.760
talent. And I feel like the numbers support incredible

01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:28.899
play. Not including this week's save of the week.

01:22:28.979 --> 01:22:33.359
I want to be clear. Take that out of anything

01:22:33.359 --> 01:22:35.779
I'm saying. That was a goal. That was the goal.

01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:39.340
Nico didn't stop that. But to your point, when

01:22:39.340 --> 01:22:41.779
you talk about the numbers, right now, just to

01:22:41.779 --> 01:22:44.479
compare it so people really understand, when

01:22:44.479 --> 01:22:47.000
you look at these two teams, not to dismay Coque

01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:51.840
Vegas here, but Monterey Bay is in first in their

01:22:51.840 --> 01:22:54.880
facing of total shots from the opposition. 3

01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:58.670
.8 average shots that... that Nico is now up

01:22:58.670 --> 01:23:02.010
against versus just 1 .7 for Rhode Island FC.

01:23:02.170 --> 01:23:05.289
I said that we are one of the best defenses in

01:23:05.289 --> 01:23:07.670
the league, but that's a total defensive performance

01:23:07.670 --> 01:23:11.189
with the back line trying to help keep Koke and

01:23:11.189 --> 01:23:13.529
Jackson Lee from having a relatively busy game.

01:23:13.710 --> 01:23:16.189
That's not quite the case, though, with Monterey

01:23:16.189 --> 01:23:20.229
Bay. There are ways around that back four, and

01:23:20.229 --> 01:23:22.850
it's just Nico's... again, just standing on his

01:23:22.850 --> 01:23:25.989
head and keeping Monterey Bay very much in the

01:23:25.989 --> 01:23:29.390
game. Is there a concern then, Chris, that the

01:23:29.390 --> 01:23:31.909
back line is eventually, like, Nico shouldn't

01:23:31.909 --> 01:23:34.130
be keeping up at this rate and this back line

01:23:34.130 --> 01:23:36.210
needs to improve to kind of make it a little

01:23:36.210 --> 01:23:42.239
bit easier for their guy in the back? Obviously,

01:23:42.239 --> 01:23:46.319
we could do better. I think when you have such

01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:50.180
aggressive wing play and rotation from your outside

01:23:50.180 --> 01:23:53.819
backs, you open the door for teams to come down

01:23:53.819 --> 01:23:56.640
the sides to send service into the box, and I

01:23:56.640 --> 01:24:00.340
feel like that's kind of where we're a little

01:24:00.340 --> 01:24:05.739
leaky in that regard. Most teams aren't coming

01:24:05.739 --> 01:24:08.500
straight down the pipe at us. I mean, Guzman

01:24:08.500 --> 01:24:13.699
and Gordon are incredible, aggressive, physical,

01:24:13.779 --> 01:24:18.239
and highly technical. And so, you know, I think

01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:22.319
you got to kind of take the full style into consideration.

01:24:22.619 --> 01:24:27.180
But, yeah, you know. it's gonna wear on him i

01:24:27.180 --> 01:24:30.840
think after a while and you know um that's why

01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.880
i think he's so focused on mental and physical

01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:38.159
preparation fueling his body that he's a he's

01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:43.039
a great guy but um i think we do need to consider

01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:47.159
the back line like you said jason did you notice

01:24:47.159 --> 01:24:49.000
that he's also a spaniard that this is going

01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:51.180
to be a spaniard versus spaniard yeah when chris

01:24:51.180 --> 01:24:53.640
was talking about him uh going out and challenging

01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:56.520
keepers i'm like oh we know Koke loves himself

01:24:56.520 --> 01:24:59.119
to be a sweeper keeper. We know all about that.

01:24:59.260 --> 01:25:02.220
You know, I, I wonder with, with talking about

01:25:02.220 --> 01:25:06.460
here, Nico is, is being fantastic facing a lot

01:25:06.460 --> 01:25:10.920
of shots. We saw Monterey Bay last year start

01:25:10.920 --> 01:25:14.420
pretty well. And then kind of as, as they tapered

01:25:14.420 --> 01:25:16.659
off, do you think that there, is there any concern

01:25:16.659 --> 01:25:21.039
here that this is a hot start and that they might

01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:22.880
fizzle out like they did last year? Or do you

01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:24.399
think this is a real deal? Are you going to make

01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:27.750
the playoffs? not not so much just playoffs but

01:25:27.750 --> 01:25:30.989
like is it sustainable to be where they are right

01:25:30.989 --> 01:25:34.449
now tied for second place okay well i'm gonna

01:25:34.449 --> 01:25:36.829
i'm gonna take that and run with it so if you

01:25:36.829 --> 01:25:41.770
look at monterey bay like their entirety we're

01:25:41.770 --> 01:25:44.729
always right here at this time that's just our

01:25:44.729 --> 01:25:49.069
mo and our mo has been Yep, second, first, third,

01:25:49.149 --> 01:25:51.390
somewhere in the top three or four in the West.

01:25:51.550 --> 01:25:54.890
And then we hit the dog days of summer and we

01:25:54.890 --> 01:25:59.670
just can't keep pace. But this team is different

01:25:59.670 --> 01:26:03.569
in that they are all united around one goal.

01:26:03.789 --> 01:26:06.989
I don't know if it's common knowledge. It is

01:26:06.989 --> 01:26:09.470
here, so I don't have a problem saying it, but

01:26:09.470 --> 01:26:13.930
the team made a bold, bold move. And they said,

01:26:14.050 --> 01:26:16.170
hey, season ticket holders, if we don't make

01:26:16.170 --> 01:26:19.069
the playoffs, we're going to refund you 20 %

01:26:19.069 --> 01:26:22.710
of your tickets. And so every time you talk to

01:26:22.710 --> 01:26:25.649
these guys, there's one goal in mind, and that's

01:26:25.649 --> 01:26:29.409
the playoffs. And I said earlier, there's just

01:26:29.409 --> 01:26:32.170
a different vibe in the dressing room with these

01:26:32.170 --> 01:26:35.770
guys. I don't know if we stay in third or even

01:26:35.770 --> 01:26:40.189
in the top four, but I'm fairly certain that

01:26:40.189 --> 01:26:43.170
this season we're going to be right there, top

01:26:43.170 --> 01:26:47.869
six probably. Did you make a – was there an asterisk

01:26:47.869 --> 01:26:51.229
to that promise where if you guys won through

01:26:51.229 --> 01:26:53.470
the Western Conference Championship that the

01:26:53.470 --> 01:26:55.829
season ticket members had to pay you 20 % more?

01:26:56.850 --> 01:26:59.369
It should go both ways. It should go both ways.

01:27:01.740 --> 01:27:03.659
But I do want to ask, you know, you mentioned

01:27:03.659 --> 01:27:05.659
this earlier just to tie it into a fun kind of

01:27:05.659 --> 01:27:08.779
anecdote. I also can't help but think, you know,

01:27:08.779 --> 01:27:10.760
when you talk about the transformation of this

01:27:10.760 --> 01:27:13.899
front office, this team, this technical staff,

01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:16.500
you've also transformed the branding, you know,

01:27:16.500 --> 01:27:18.659
moving into your new logo, your new crest, and

01:27:18.659 --> 01:27:21.500
you have a new mascot in Kelpie. You can't help

01:27:21.500 --> 01:27:23.239
me tell, like, are these the things breaking

01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:25.439
the curse finally for this Monterey Bayside?

01:27:26.320 --> 01:27:29.880
okay kelpy's the goat let's just be honest see

01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:32.579
you go and say things and now no one can take

01:27:32.579 --> 01:27:35.220
you seriously no we have we already have the

01:27:35.220 --> 01:27:40.399
goat here and chip the seal no i i think um you

01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:43.260
know they wanted to engage the fans I'm going

01:27:43.260 --> 01:27:46.460
to be 100 % with you guys. I told you we have

01:27:46.460 --> 01:27:49.140
lots of options. We're an hour and a half from

01:27:49.140 --> 01:27:52.300
the 49ers here. We're two hours from the San

01:27:52.300 --> 01:27:55.359
Francisco Giants. We used to be two hours from

01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:59.979
the Oakland A's. We're an hour and 20 minutes

01:27:59.979 --> 01:28:02.500
from the San Jose Sharks. We're two hours from

01:28:02.500 --> 01:28:06.899
the Golden State Warriors. I feel like part of

01:28:06.899 --> 01:28:12.079
that was capturing those fans that hey, you don't

01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:16.439
have to drive two hours to go see a quality professional

01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:20.960
sporting event. And Kelpie, I love Kelpie. We're

01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:23.020
going to get him interviewed. I promise you guys

01:28:23.020 --> 01:28:25.399
that. I've already talked to the team about it.

01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:28.739
Let me know how you do that. Because Chip is

01:28:28.739 --> 01:28:31.000
an avid listener of our podcast, and we've talked

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:32.479
about trying to get him on, but we don't know.

01:28:32.859 --> 01:28:35.300
Because we can't even, like we said, oh, we'll

01:28:35.300 --> 01:28:39.270
have him just like. mime it out. Absolutely not.

01:28:39.510 --> 01:28:42.369
No one is ever allowed to know Chip's thoughts

01:28:42.369 --> 01:28:44.829
except for Chip himself. It'll just be a short

01:28:44.829 --> 01:28:48.130
bit where it's just all he's speaking to us.

01:28:48.270 --> 01:28:49.869
We were going to do the witness protection where

01:28:49.869 --> 01:28:52.390
we blurred him out and then the deep voice, but

01:28:52.390 --> 01:28:55.489
we haven't landed on one yet. I'm really glad

01:28:55.489 --> 01:28:57.289
that that's happening for you guys and for the

01:28:57.289 --> 01:29:02.430
fans. It's fun to see a club not rest on mediocrity

01:29:02.430 --> 01:29:05.590
and say, hey, things will improve. Just trust

01:29:05.590 --> 01:29:08.189
us. It's been really appreciative to watch you

01:29:08.189 --> 01:29:10.529
guys, I mean, literally put your money where

01:29:10.529 --> 01:29:12.710
your mouth is as an organization. I know you're

01:29:12.710 --> 01:29:14.590
also a fan, so it's like you're in a duality

01:29:14.590 --> 01:29:17.149
here, but it's been really exciting to see those

01:29:17.149 --> 01:29:19.630
commitments. I don't think I've ever heard of

01:29:19.630 --> 01:29:22.770
a team selling you, hey, we'll refund you if

01:29:22.770 --> 01:29:26.189
we suck. That's exciting. That's exciting to

01:29:26.189 --> 01:29:30.250
know. Moving back to the Rhode Island side of

01:29:30.250 --> 01:29:32.949
things, Jason, five games, 14 days. How does

01:29:32.949 --> 01:29:36.569
RIFC weather this storm? Or is it that's the

01:29:36.569 --> 01:29:41.289
neat part? I mean, you're not wrong there. I

01:29:41.289 --> 01:29:44.930
think we are going to really have to trust some

01:29:44.930 --> 01:29:46.850
of our bench here. We're going to have to dig

01:29:46.850 --> 01:29:50.750
deep. You know, like we talked about the new

01:29:50.750 --> 01:29:53.310
signing here. I'm a Mavica. I think we're going

01:29:53.310 --> 01:29:55.989
to see some more minutes from him. And I think

01:29:55.989 --> 01:29:58.250
from there at that point, maybe by the time we

01:29:58.250 --> 01:30:00.289
get to like our Wednesday game next week is at

01:30:00.289 --> 01:30:02.689
Birmingham, I think. Yes. Like at that point,

01:30:02.750 --> 01:30:05.380
maybe he's a starter. Right. And we also just

01:30:05.380 --> 01:30:08.699
talked about how the Mad Dog AST has been kind

01:30:08.699 --> 01:30:12.420
of going through, you know, this kind of renaissance

01:30:12.420 --> 01:30:15.560
and how he's playing for us. But we also know

01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:18.899
that Haribo is an incredibly talented midfielder

01:30:18.899 --> 01:30:22.840
who can, you know, work defensively on top of

01:30:22.840 --> 01:30:27.279
assists like we saw in Westchester. So we we

01:30:27.279 --> 01:30:31.079
are beaten and battered and kind of light. But

01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:34.710
the guys on the bench there. we've all seen performanceism

01:30:34.710 --> 01:30:38.029
from them. So I know that we're going to just

01:30:38.029 --> 01:30:40.569
going to kind of have to rotate. Yeah. I mean,

01:30:40.569 --> 01:30:42.689
I feel that there may be some conserved energy,

01:30:42.710 --> 01:30:45.479
some conserved legs trying to go. for a second,

01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:47.800
you know, half performance, which is unlike what

01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:50.000
we've seen from Rhode Island FC. I guess, you

01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.439
know, Chris, asking if, and to put yourself in

01:30:52.439 --> 01:30:54.060
the mind of Jordan Stewart here for a second,

01:30:54.140 --> 01:30:56.300
when you're coming fresh off of, you know, you've

01:30:56.300 --> 01:30:58.159
had the full week rest since you guys weren't

01:30:58.159 --> 01:31:01.079
still in the Open Cup. What are you thinking

01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:03.739
of differently if you're a head coach? How do

01:31:03.739 --> 01:31:06.380
you capitalize on the fatigue? for this Rhode

01:31:06.380 --> 01:31:09.319
Island FC team that is very desperate to get

01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:11.380
a home win in front of their fans. They now have

01:31:11.380 --> 01:31:14.279
one draw and a loss. They're really eager to

01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:17.920
deliver that first win in front of 10 ,500 faithful.

01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:22.680
Well, I think we don't fall into the trap of

01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:27.579
trying to play your game. I think that you guys

01:31:27.579 --> 01:31:31.079
play a very physical brand of football, and I've

01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:36.539
alluded to it multiple times. It matters in this

01:31:36.539 --> 01:31:39.100
game. And we're going to put our guys out there

01:31:39.100 --> 01:31:42.380
that he feels is the best matchup. But I think

01:31:42.380 --> 01:31:46.020
that as long as we stick to our game plan and

01:31:46.020 --> 01:31:51.039
adapt where we need to, but not just try to go

01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:55.119
blow for blow with you guys is going to be, you

01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:58.260
know, play rope -a -dope. Let you guys, you know,

01:31:58.319 --> 01:32:02.220
you're coming off a short break and, you know.

01:32:02.510 --> 01:32:05.890
We just continue to do what we do, and that is

01:32:05.890 --> 01:32:09.489
press the attack, tire you guys out. We're on

01:32:09.489 --> 01:32:12.449
fresh legs. You're not. Jordan knows that. And

01:32:12.449 --> 01:32:15.090
I'm sure that he's got something up his sleeve

01:32:15.090 --> 01:32:22.439
for that very thing. I mean, the answer, the

01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:24.760
obvious answer for Rhode Island FC is to rely

01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:29.100
on the incredible abilities of one super sub,

01:32:29.220 --> 01:32:32.319
Joe Brito, which, by the way, Jason, he now leads

01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:36.010
the team. in shots on the largest number of shots

01:32:36.010 --> 01:32:40.010
per 90 on average at 1 .7 so he is besting even

01:32:40.010 --> 01:32:43.710
the likes of Chico JJ Williams and Maxi Rodriguez

01:32:43.710 --> 01:32:46.390
what does that say to this team right now where

01:32:46.390 --> 01:32:49.170
Chico needs some time we haven't seen him really

01:32:49.170 --> 01:32:51.649
get to where we want him to be with JJ Williams

01:32:51.649 --> 01:32:54.710
out and maybe not even seeing Joe Brito until

01:32:54.710 --> 01:32:57.789
the 65th minute and beyond what does that say

01:32:57.789 --> 01:32:59.409
for the offensive quality we're going to see

01:32:59.409 --> 01:33:01.289
on this game this weekend against a very tough

01:33:01.289 --> 01:33:05.289
defensive opponent Yeah, I think that kind of

01:33:05.289 --> 01:33:08.890
reinforces how much our offense kind of needs

01:33:08.890 --> 01:33:14.270
to get in gear. We've seen that there be chances

01:33:14.270 --> 01:33:17.489
created, but maybe they need to be some quote

01:33:17.489 --> 01:33:21.510
-unquote better chances. And then also, sometimes

01:33:21.510 --> 01:33:23.510
it doesn't have to be a perfect chance. Maybe

01:33:23.510 --> 01:33:26.050
some of them just need to have a little more

01:33:26.050 --> 01:33:28.750
confidence and just give it a go. Test the keeper,

01:33:28.909 --> 01:33:32.170
see if he's really worth his salt, as they say.

01:33:32.779 --> 01:33:35.380
And then, Chris, kind of back to you as well,

01:33:35.539 --> 01:33:37.979
Monterey Bay now has only scored three goals

01:33:37.979 --> 01:33:40.579
in their last five matches. It seems as if the

01:33:40.579 --> 01:33:43.140
offense hasn't been clicking as of late. What's

01:33:43.140 --> 01:33:45.380
the story there, and what do they need to do

01:33:45.380 --> 01:33:49.600
to overcome that deficit? I think in the last

01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:53.000
couple of games, you've seen teams kind of adapting

01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:56.399
a little bit to the style. I think our cup set

01:33:56.399 --> 01:34:00.479
against El Farolito in the Open Cup kind of...

01:34:01.100 --> 01:34:04.800
exposed us a little bit. And I do feel like the

01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:10.199
team is, is pivoting as far as sticking to the

01:34:10.199 --> 01:34:13.000
same old thing. You know, they know what teams

01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:16.880
are going to be looking to do. If you guys, you're

01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:18.420
going to come out, you're going to press high,

01:34:18.579 --> 01:34:21.560
you know, that's going to work well at the same

01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.659
time. If, Oh, or, you know, I want you guys to

01:34:24.659 --> 01:34:26.979
sit back. I want you to park the bus and just

01:34:26.979 --> 01:34:29.869
hang out. We're going to. absolutely dominate.

01:34:30.069 --> 01:34:34.069
And so I think that as far as Jordan's game plan,

01:34:34.130 --> 01:34:37.289
I can't speak for him, obviously, but to me,

01:34:37.350 --> 01:34:42.989
it seems like, you know, adaptability of his

01:34:42.989 --> 01:34:47.869
offensive scheme is going to. payoff in spades

01:34:47.869 --> 01:34:52.149
this week specifically um we've had a couple

01:34:52.149 --> 01:34:55.489
of uh frontline guys injured and they're all

01:34:55.489 --> 01:34:59.010
healthy now so i think we're gonna see a good

01:34:59.010 --> 01:35:02.609
you know rekindled attack must be nice that that's

01:35:02.609 --> 01:35:05.430
all coming together for you against us that's

01:35:05.430 --> 01:35:09.270
fantastic jason what does what infc need to do

01:35:09.270 --> 01:35:11.869
to get all three points and deliver that first

01:35:11.869 --> 01:35:15.949
home victory in front of their fans I think RFC

01:35:15.949 --> 01:35:18.810
really needs to kind of lean on their physicality

01:35:18.810 --> 01:35:22.270
here. You know, if it's true that this ref is

01:35:22.270 --> 01:35:24.869
going to let us kind of let it be an open game,

01:35:24.970 --> 01:35:28.170
kind of use that to their advantage. I think

01:35:28.170 --> 01:35:31.109
the real main thing, though, we've seen as we've

01:35:31.109 --> 01:35:33.109
seen this team kind of grow throughout the short

01:35:33.109 --> 01:35:35.970
span of what we've seen in the season, they really

01:35:35.970 --> 01:35:38.729
need to convert some more of their chances, right?

01:35:38.789 --> 01:35:41.750
That they are not being lethal in front of goal.

01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:45.399
And I don't think if this team doesn't score

01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:48.859
at least two goals, I don't think we even think

01:35:48.859 --> 01:35:53.220
about winning this game. Okay. Chris, how about

01:35:53.220 --> 01:35:55.520
you? What say you on what Monterey Bay needs

01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:57.760
to do with all of this health, all this talent

01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:00.159
coming together here at Centerville Bank Stadium?

01:36:01.500 --> 01:36:08.819
Well, I would say that we need to play our game.

01:36:10.060 --> 01:36:12.520
Your guys' physicality, don't try and go blow

01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:15.140
for blow. We're not going to win that match.

01:36:15.260 --> 01:36:20.300
But use the speed that we have to negate the

01:36:20.300 --> 01:36:24.880
physicality. I think that if... We can break

01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:27.319
through early, which is our MO. We're going to

01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:30.359
try and throw everything plus the kitchen sink

01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:33.279
at you right from the get -go. But what we need

01:36:33.279 --> 01:36:36.939
to do most of all is keep possession. Jordan's

01:36:36.939 --> 01:36:41.939
offense is very, very heavily predicated on having

01:36:41.939 --> 01:36:45.979
the ball. And if we can do that, if we can maintain

01:36:45.979 --> 01:36:50.079
possession and build out of the back and move

01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:55.609
slowly as far as developing the play but quickly

01:36:55.609 --> 01:36:58.529
when it's time to strike i feel like the result

01:36:58.529 --> 01:37:03.149
is going to definitely be favorable for us i

01:37:03.149 --> 01:37:06.289
have noticed in looking over the stats for monterey

01:37:06.289 --> 01:37:09.989
bay that there's definitely this disconcerted

01:37:09.989 --> 01:37:13.510
effort where they they implement a higher press

01:37:13.510 --> 01:37:15.529
similar to rhode island where they want to intercept

01:37:15.529 --> 01:37:19.800
the ball in the opponent's final third or at

01:37:19.800 --> 01:37:22.420
the highest in the middle third, but they want

01:37:22.420 --> 01:37:25.159
to quickly catch in that interception and move

01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.479
through a counter themselves, but they don't

01:37:27.479 --> 01:37:30.159
commit the entire team forward. I think it's

01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:35.659
Wes Fonguk. He seems to be that, like what I

01:37:35.659 --> 01:37:38.359
saw Connor McGlynn being last year for us, he's

01:37:38.359 --> 01:37:41.079
that true number six, which in this league...

01:37:41.210 --> 01:37:44.109
an individual number six isn't something we see

01:37:44.109 --> 01:37:46.949
very often we usually see the double pivot or

01:37:46.949 --> 01:37:50.270
the cm pairings but fongook is very much like

01:37:50.270 --> 01:37:53.460
the tip of the spear and if If the back line

01:37:53.460 --> 01:37:56.579
does extend forward, he doesn't range very far.

01:37:56.699 --> 01:37:59.619
So on the counter or on the break, if we are

01:37:59.619 --> 01:38:03.460
able to move the ball back forward from Monterey

01:38:03.460 --> 01:38:06.220
Bay, it doesn't really go centrally. There's

01:38:06.220 --> 01:38:09.539
no verticality in towards the middle of the field.

01:38:09.619 --> 01:38:11.579
So a lot of this game is going to be decided,

01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:13.579
I think, out on the wings for Rhode Island FC,

01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.420
if they can take advantage of it. And if that

01:38:16.420 --> 01:38:18.199
means we're at the wings, we just don't have

01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:22.439
as big of a body. with chico he's not jj williams

01:38:22.439 --> 01:38:25.399
like chico's tough chico's strong but i'm a little

01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:27.640
bit more concerned on how we're going to win

01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:30.600
those aerial duels even with the advantages we

01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:33.539
have frank up top i mean may i mean not up top

01:38:33.539 --> 01:38:35.659
but as a right wing back i mean we may see some

01:38:35.659 --> 01:38:38.420
of that but then also to full credit to monterey

01:38:38.420 --> 01:38:40.979
like like chris was just saying when they catch

01:38:41.500 --> 01:38:43.319
When they catch Rhode Island FC in transition,

01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:46.119
they love to build up the play. They are leading

01:38:46.119 --> 01:38:48.199
the league in touches in the opposition's box.

01:38:48.539 --> 01:38:51.619
They take their time with it. They don't rush

01:38:51.619 --> 01:38:53.500
the attack. They're quick to get the ball back,

01:38:53.680 --> 01:38:56.539
but they like to break down a back line. They

01:38:56.539 --> 01:38:59.000
also, I think, lead in corners. So I think Rhode

01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:01.060
Island FC defensively is going to have to put

01:39:01.060 --> 01:39:03.739
on just as much of a performance as whatever

01:39:03.739 --> 01:39:06.840
we can scrap together on the front. I don't see

01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:09.699
this game being much of a... high scoring affair.

01:39:09.899 --> 01:39:12.439
I actually have this as a 1 -1 draw right now

01:39:12.439 --> 01:39:16.460
myself, because I just don't believe that there's

01:39:16.460 --> 01:39:19.439
enough in the tank for Rhode Island. But I think

01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:22.680
we can hold Monterey, who hasn't shown necessarily

01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:24.560
that they have the ability to score over their

01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:26.880
most recent performances. I could see this being

01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:30.180
a very, unfortunately, a very, you know, lackluster

01:39:30.180 --> 01:39:32.699
1 -1. Lots of opportunities, lots of risk, but

01:39:32.699 --> 01:39:34.979
I don't think this will be a high, thrilling

01:39:34.979 --> 01:39:37.939
goal scoring affair. What do you think the scoreline

01:39:37.939 --> 01:39:40.979
might be, Jason? I think we're going to run it

01:39:40.979 --> 01:39:44.479
back for nostalgia purposes. 2 -2. You're not

01:39:44.479 --> 01:39:46.159
convinced that we get a win until we get the

01:39:46.159 --> 01:39:50.960
win, I assume, at this point? I'm maybe not convinced

01:39:50.960 --> 01:39:54.539
with the health of the squad right now. Obviously,

01:39:54.539 --> 01:39:59.760
I want my team to win, but I think it'll be an

01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:01.760
exciting game. I think it'll be a little sloppy,

01:40:01.819 --> 01:40:06.899
though. 2 -2 for the Vibes. 69 % of the fans

01:40:06.899 --> 01:40:09.380
on Fat Mob and SofaScore combined believe that

01:40:09.380 --> 01:40:11.020
Rhode Island FC will get the win. I don't know

01:40:11.020 --> 01:40:12.539
what Kool -Aid they've been drinking. They must

01:40:12.539 --> 01:40:15.579
not be listening to our podcast. I just don't

01:40:15.579 --> 01:40:19.399
see us getting the win. Or maybe all the Monterey

01:40:19.399 --> 01:40:22.039
Bay fans are out there voting on goalkeeper saves,

01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:25.300
not voting on their teams to win. That makes

01:40:25.300 --> 01:40:27.260
a lot of sense. Chris, what do you got for the

01:40:27.260 --> 01:40:31.159
scoreline on this one? We're in one accord. I

01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:35.109
see this going down as a 2 -2 draw. Same as Jason.

01:40:35.130 --> 01:40:39.710
I think that, you know, for you guys, your shooting

01:40:39.710 --> 01:40:42.850
boots are going to come back. But the same for

01:40:42.850 --> 01:40:46.829
us. We're going to find those finishes that we've

01:40:46.829 --> 01:40:51.130
lacked the last couple of weeks. And all in all,

01:40:51.229 --> 01:40:55.069
we're going to walk away as friends. I was watching

01:40:55.069 --> 01:40:57.829
that Miami game last week. I don't know how they

01:40:57.829 --> 01:41:01.270
weren't up like 4 -0 in the first half. Yeah,

01:41:01.289 --> 01:41:06.689
really. Trust me. We're all fam in der club,

01:41:06.989 --> 01:41:10.550
as they say, or in the clurb. Producer Torin

01:41:10.550 --> 01:41:13.010
has a 1 -0 for Rhode Island FC, and our quant,

01:41:13.130 --> 01:41:16.109
the Hillside, has a 2 -0 victory. We're going

01:41:16.109 --> 01:41:19.170
to have to have a conference, an inter -podcast

01:41:19.170 --> 01:41:21.229
conference, and reset some expectations here.

01:41:21.590 --> 01:41:24.250
But getting into the weather report, kind of

01:41:24.250 --> 01:41:26.189
getting fans ready for this game. Currently,

01:41:26.210 --> 01:41:29.670
it's projected to be around 61 or the low 60s,

01:41:29.670 --> 01:41:32.130
getting into Centerville Bank Stadium with a

01:41:32.130 --> 01:41:34.939
nice... you know, light breeze of 12 miles per

01:41:34.939 --> 01:41:37.300
hour, you know, it's going to be a 4 PM kickoff

01:41:37.300 --> 01:41:39.979
this Saturday, May 10th. So, you know, with that

01:41:39.979 --> 01:41:41.979
sun, it feels like every time we've seen the

01:41:41.979 --> 01:41:44.020
weather, it opens up perfectly for a period of

01:41:44.020 --> 01:41:46.359
time. I haven't, we haven't had a bad weather.

01:41:46.380 --> 01:41:48.000
I mean, you can count the five minutes of rain,

01:41:48.020 --> 01:41:50.039
but like. Weather -wise, it's been good. Bring

01:41:50.039 --> 01:41:52.520
your sunscreen. I can't stress that enough. Even

01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:54.600
if it's light and rainy and there's some moisture

01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:56.260
earlier in the day, don't get burned. Those clouds

01:41:56.260 --> 01:41:59.579
get you. Yeah, every time. And it should be a

01:41:59.579 --> 01:42:02.000
relatively dry affair. It'll be raining earlier

01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:03.279
in the morning, so a little bit of moisture there,

01:42:03.359 --> 01:42:06.239
but that's exciting to see. And don't forget,

01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:08.340
guys, this is going to be the first one of our

01:42:08.340 --> 01:42:12.340
dollar hot dog, $2 kids drink, and $4 beer promotions.

01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:15.100
Make sure you guys get there. There's also that

01:42:15.100 --> 01:42:17.239
free Centauri beanie or something like that.

01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:20.560
I forget. Centauri? Centauri? I don't know. Centauri

01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:22.939
oil company, whatever. It's what I think of when

01:42:22.939 --> 01:42:25.199
you think about Rhode Island FC. And then if

01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:27.279
you're not attending the game in person for any

01:42:27.279 --> 01:42:29.180
odd reason, you will be able to catch all the

01:42:29.180 --> 01:42:32.850
action on Nessun and ESPN+. And I think... I

01:42:32.850 --> 01:42:35.710
think Tom and Nick are on the call. I've heard

01:42:35.710 --> 01:42:37.409
that there's conversations about getting all

01:42:37.409 --> 01:42:39.250
the home games. I haven't seen it. They've been

01:42:39.250 --> 01:42:41.270
at every single one now. I don't know if we did.

01:42:41.329 --> 01:42:43.010
We missed that news and we just didn't talk about

01:42:43.010 --> 01:42:45.229
it. I don't know. It could be a case by case

01:42:45.229 --> 01:42:47.390
right now, but you may have 790 on the radio

01:42:47.390 --> 01:42:50.810
for it as well. Before we let Chris give us the

01:42:50.810 --> 01:42:52.569
final word, Jason, any final thoughts from your

01:42:52.569 --> 01:42:57.630
side? I mean, yeah, before we I mean, shout out

01:42:57.630 --> 01:43:00.449
to Chris and Andrew. And I think to all of us.

01:43:01.110 --> 01:43:04.090
soccer sickos out there. I wanted to make a specific

01:43:04.090 --> 01:43:06.989
mention here to Tom Franklin, the soccer zombie

01:43:06.989 --> 01:43:11.529
who did a fantastic video on the opening match

01:43:11.529 --> 01:43:13.569
at Centerville bank stadium. And then the very

01:43:13.569 --> 01:43:17.909
next day went to Portland, Maine or their opening

01:43:17.909 --> 01:43:21.869
match. Fantastic content. We all put our hearts

01:43:21.869 --> 01:43:24.270
and soul into this. Like Chris was saying earlier,

01:43:24.329 --> 01:43:26.789
the cost of living, this does not pay the bills.

01:43:26.850 --> 01:43:30.569
We do this for the love of the game. So I think

01:43:30.569 --> 01:43:32.489
when you see something out there, someone really

01:43:32.489 --> 01:43:34.029
putting their heart and soul into something,

01:43:34.109 --> 01:43:36.229
you should really kind of give it its kudos.

01:43:36.310 --> 01:43:38.850
And to those who have not seen that Centerville

01:43:38.850 --> 01:43:41.810
Bank Stadium from Tom Franklin, it is a fantastic

01:43:41.810 --> 01:43:44.909
watch. We don't get paid. We pay to do this job.

01:43:46.050 --> 01:43:49.270
But I agree. Go watch that. The Copa90 video

01:43:49.270 --> 01:43:51.350
was also really fun to watch as well. Lots of

01:43:51.350 --> 01:43:53.750
good content coming out there. But speaking of

01:43:53.750 --> 01:43:56.539
content, Chris. Thank you so much for joining

01:43:56.539 --> 01:43:58.659
us. It's been such a pleasure to have you here

01:43:58.659 --> 01:44:01.300
on the podcast for the first time. I hate that

01:44:01.300 --> 01:44:02.960
when we have such a great guest like yourself,

01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:05.359
that when we're in that Western Eastern, we only

01:44:05.359 --> 01:44:09.220
get to do this one time a year. But as far as

01:44:09.220 --> 01:44:11.359
I don't look to this game, I'm not looking forward

01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:13.880
to it. I am looking forward to having you back

01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:16.920
on in the time to come. Please let all of the

01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.619
listeners, all of the fans know, where can they

01:44:19.619 --> 01:44:21.979
connect with your guys' work, yours and Andrew's,

01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:23.939
and how can they stay plugged into all things

01:44:23.939 --> 01:44:27.460
Monterey Bay? yeah well first off thank you guys

01:44:27.460 --> 01:44:30.640
so much for uh having me um hopefully andrew

01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:33.199
can make it next time i know i see i've seen

01:44:33.199 --> 01:44:35.420
him in the comments a couple times defending

01:44:35.420 --> 01:44:40.899
kelpy's honor but um um yeah we're we're on instagram

01:44:40.899 --> 01:44:45.989
we're on uh I don't know. Andrew does it's blue

01:44:45.989 --> 01:44:48.729
sky or something. I don't know. Some alternative

01:44:48.729 --> 01:44:51.369
to Twitter. We're on Twitter. Everything is the

01:44:51.369 --> 01:44:54.930
union report. We're on YouTube, especially you

01:44:54.930 --> 01:44:57.350
can find all the long form interviews that we've

01:44:57.350 --> 01:45:01.819
done with the team. You can find us there. We

01:45:01.819 --> 01:45:04.680
have a blog that's linked in all of our social

01:45:04.680 --> 01:45:07.779
media that Andrew heads up and he does fantastic

01:45:07.779 --> 01:45:12.380
writing there. We just want to see the USL grow.

01:45:12.520 --> 01:45:16.180
We want to see footy in the United States be

01:45:16.180 --> 01:45:19.880
where it should be. And so, hey, you know what,

01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:23.060
if we both win our conferences, we could do this

01:45:23.060 --> 01:45:26.949
again in like a few months. So go Union. We'd

01:45:26.949 --> 01:45:28.869
love to invite you back to Centerville Bank Stadium

01:45:28.869 --> 01:45:32.189
for a home playoff game for us. We'd love to

01:45:32.189 --> 01:45:35.369
do that. That'd be great. That'd be great. All

01:45:35.369 --> 01:45:37.729
right, Jason, let's get out of here. All right,

01:45:37.750 --> 01:45:40.029
let's wrap it up then. Make sure everyone to

01:45:40.029 --> 01:45:42.710
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01:45:42.710 --> 01:45:44.949
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01:46:02.159 --> 01:46:04.939
buddy anchors up let's go uh i don't know eat

01:46:04.939 --> 01:46:07.619
some sea kelp i don't know i got nothing we'll

01:46:07.619 --> 01:46:08.859
see you guys on saturday