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Okay, so welcome back to another episode of the Say Less Pod.

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Sorry it's been a while.

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I think like the last episode I posted was not last year, but it was kind of close.

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Okay, yeah, January 17th of 2024.

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So it was like this year, it's just now you get one like anyway.

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I don't know what's life has been like.

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Let's just put it that way.

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And honestly, haven't really been able to like just pick it up and then just like start recording.

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Also like hanging out with friends, doing a lot of different things.

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You know, life has been life, but not like necessarily in a bad way.

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2023 was a rough year, mental health wise, like everything, just all these emotions kind of got bubbled up to the surface.

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Because I am not a crock pot.

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I am a pressure cooker and then it just kind of like blows up.

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I try not like it doesn't blow up on people.

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It just blows up on myself and then because I promise I'm not going to let anybody else get wet from my storms in my life.

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So, you know, but anyway, that's long story.

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We're going to go into this week's episode and kind of I know this is a long time coming because when did

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Bird Box come out?

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Let's see.

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But that's what we're going to be talking about today.

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Like Bird Box, one of my co-workers, they were actually like, you need to go watch it.

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And I was like, okay, oh, 2018.

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So 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24.

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That's like six years.

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The reason why I did like, I know it was a challenge like do like the Bird Box challenge where you blindfold yourself and like walk around your house and see if you can do that.

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Did not participate in that trend because one, I am clumsy.

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Two, yeah, you really wouldn't have wanted to see me do that challenge.

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So here's like the breakdown of the movie.

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Like I say, one of my co-workers told me, hey, you should watch it.

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I think you would enjoy it.

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I was like, oh, isn't that like a dystopian movie?

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Kind of is dystopian.

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The break that down for you a little bit.

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It's basically like the opposite of utopia like Divergent and all those movies back in the day.

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It's like, but yeah, like Bird Box, great movie, pretty good message.

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Like probably like a solid nine and a half out of 10.

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The reason why I can't give it like 10 out of 10 is because I do not.

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The only problem I had with it.

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And yes, it was rated R. So what did I kind of respect?

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But was like the blood gushing like when people have like the puddles of blood that I could deal with.

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That was no problem.

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But it's like when people like when people come at you like with an axe or something and they're just like kind of like not a grappling.

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It's not a grappling hook.

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It's some type of like grappling hook is something totally different Caroline, but it's something like that.

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And I was just like, I can't with this.

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So for me personally, I'm and I'm not one of those people that like visibly screams.

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I'll just like kind of like when someone like that's that's that's gross.

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And like, you know, I'm just not that person. I'm not the person that's full on full on screens.

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I just don't find that interesting.

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But so here is what Bird Box is basically about from what I can gather.

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It's how like there's always something that we need to be fearful and or like like fearful in life and and you know,

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these worst fears that people had imagined their whole life or kind of become manifested like when they look at into this light or they look into this screen.

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Not like an actual screen, but like into the brightness.

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They're seeing how life is truly like what life is truly about.

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And I will say that while there are definitely a lot of things in life that we need to be fearful of, we don't need to be fearful about everything.

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Because I know some people and I mean this in the nicest way possible.

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But I've even had some friends who would like see like the storm clouds and I'm not talking.

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We're not talking storm clouds here.

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We're talking about like people in their life.

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They have like a storm rolling about bound you around you.

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If I can English.

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So maybe I set it up completely for this episode when I was talking about like my mental health not being so great last year.

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Like when you have like different things going on around you.

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Sometimes you can only see like this rain and the storm and that's all you feel.

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You know, some people can learn the dance in the rain and some people only feel the effects of the rain and they're like, oh, it's raining.

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Now I got my coat wet.

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Now I'm all like messy and muddy.

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And it's just like, yes, this is true.

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Like, but honestly, there was so much better to look forward to.

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So there were a lot of things to be fearful in this life.

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And that's what it kind of brings out to me with this whole like movie.

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Like the one person Sandra Bullock's character.

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I feel like she is afraid of and this may just be me personally.

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I feel like she's afraid of actually turning into her dad because she was like, my dad was never there.

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And like in the very, very beginning of the movie, when they're kind of like talking about the character development.

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She's like, I'm not going to have an emotional connection with this child.

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And they're like, well, when it's your own child, it's something different.

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Like you have that instinct to protect and she does want to protect them.

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She does appreciate them, but it's kind of like more of a survival mode.

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She doesn't want to get attached to them.

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That's why it's boy and girl for like half the movie.

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Because it's easier than that actually get them names and be attached to someone to sometimes it's easier to disassociate, disassociate, to suppress those emotions and pile them down.

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That's why even when now this is just my personal hot takes.

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So even when what's the person, the name Tom, it wasn't that long ago that I watched the movie, but sometimes I forgot.

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Like, I think his name was Tom.

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Anyway, so he's telling like the kids the story about like how they would climb trees and how they were living life just doing the most.

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And she was like, you can't set them up with those types of things.

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You can't have them believing that this world that life is going to be good and that they're going to be able to experience those things.

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For one, she had to be tough when she grew up.

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Because her dad was emotionally abusive.

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And she even is reminded of her dad when that one person is kind of in this kind of safe house environment.

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So she has like a mental capacity and a mental strength that not a lot of the other individuals possess, I think, in a lot of ways, because it's like, okay, I had to protect myself from certain things.

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I'm going to protect these children from the things that I wasn't protected from when I was a kid.

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And sometimes it is very crazy when your worst fears are kind of manifested.

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Some people would say that you kind of bring these things onto yourself with the way that you grew up or the way that you were raised.

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Sometimes even like the environment at Udalland.

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Because the one person, and he's willing to like kind of risk his life for it all, risk his worst fear.

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In order to actually protect and save the other individuals.

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And you see that timing time happen in life.

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In all actual life.

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And I'm like, I know the bird box is just a movie.

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A lot, a lot, a lot of you can't really judge most of it off of that.

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But it goes back to, I don't know if that's the right saying.

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I'm just going to say it's kind of like the devil that you know is better than the devil that you don't know.

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I might have completely messed that up.

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But like sometimes it's like it is easier to kind of like live life, just kind of breeze through it.

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And put your head to the grindstone.

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Not really thinking about life.

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Like I say, disassociating, walking through the tresses.

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Versus actually tackling it head on.

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And so like some people, I think like Tom, one of his like main things was kind of like finding love.

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But it was like kind of like he found love in the wrong places.

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I believe.

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And like, you know, once we have kind of like that safe space in our minds, we can kind of let all go down.

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And that's like at the very, very end of the movie.

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Like they even though they are safe, they are out of the woods, there is nothing that can hurt you anymore.

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We are still kind of like in the back of our mind, we playing everything that could go wrong and that did go wrong.

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So she is still afraid to remove the mask.

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And if you've ever been in those like situations with maybe a friend or like even if you're meeting someone for the first time and they're like, it's a safe place.

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You can tell me anything.

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And I'm like, is it really though?

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Because I cannot just like tell you anything.

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I don't know you like that.

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You know.

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I'm not going to tell you my full life story and they're like, but I'm not going to judge.

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You might after you hear it.

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I'm not going to give you like the opportunity to kind of have that insight into my life.

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Also like offer like unsolicited advice.

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But yeah, there's a lot of things I mean some people like have, you know, basic fears and people call them like irrational fears.

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But some people like fear, maybe like home invasions.

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Some people like fear like heights and like spiders and things like that. Those are like normal like every day like fears that you would encounter.

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There was some there were some fears that have already been kind of have happened and have been paraphrased over and over again.

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Like maybe they just happen one time. But in the back of your mind, you're always thinking, you know, like, okay.

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Those daddy issues that I have.

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I'm not saying like me personally, I'm saying just in general, like.

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They cause me to have trust issues to go through this to fear abandonment to all of these different things, you know.

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That's something like with trauma. I feel like we sometimes gravitate and we hold on to that because we're like, what if that's why we can't really move forward and we don't ever know that was safe.

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Because we're like, what if it happens again? What if someone lose me because I'm not enough. I'm not worthy of being enough.

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And when sometimes your worst fear ends up happening to you, sometimes you're just like, I really hope that it doesn't happen again.

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So you do everything that you can to try to prevent it.

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That sometimes I find and I feel like even with the movie, it kind of like brought this out.

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Like Sandra Bullitt's character, I feel like she's like the main character and everybody else's side characters.

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You can kind of let me know what you think with the movie, but I feel like she's the main character.

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And with like these two children, one of them was her child boy.

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And then the girl was actually belonged to one of her friends that she met in this kind of like, it was kind of a safe house until someone from a psychiatric facility got into the house.

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That's, yeah, that's if you haven't watched the movie, go watch the movie. But anyway, she's trying so hard to protect them that I feel like sometimes we kind of unknowingly make people afraid.

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Okay, so I feel like there's difference of like opinions, probably with that.

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But what I mean by that is when we unknowingly make somebody afraid, you see this all the time, especially, I will say especially like kind of with parents, I've seen it because they're like, I don't want my kids to go through anything that I've gone through.

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And it's like that I have mad respect for that. I do.

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But you can't in some ways you can't protect your child from everything. You have to let them know that, hey, there are some dirt bags. There are some f boys.

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There are some ways they will whatever you want to say. There's some people out there who will try to hurt you.

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And if I could protect you from everything and all like the horrible, horrible, nasty that I could.

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I mean, there probably is. If I could protect you from all that, I would.

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But I can't protect you from every single thing. I will try to protect as much as I can.

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Like if you have someone coming into your house and you know what they are capable of and you have them under your roof, I have some questions for you as like a, like individual.

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Like why you knew what they were capable of.

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That's something totally different than if like you didn't know anything about this person. You didn't know them from Adam and then something happens.

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Okay. Yeah. Should that have happened? Absolutely not.

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No. Okay. But be there for like your children. Be there for like people

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who might be going through like a similar situation or whatever.

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I mean, I've seen this played out in multiple situations like people who don't have a good like relationship with their spouse or like their boyfriend.

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Sometimes try not to have other people be involved in relationships. And it's like, yes, yours maybe didn't turn out the way that you hoped.

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I'm sorry for you. I really am.

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But that doesn't mean that their joy is not wanted.

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Yes, do you need to tell them maybe about like the concerns maybe about the statistics that hey, like this amount of individuals, this X, Y and Z happens.

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Maybe you need to like alert them of the situation, but don't allow them to live in fear like make them aware of it.

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But also like let them know that there is good in the world because like I say some people sometimes I noticed that we are so focused on the rain.

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That we don't really see like the sunshine like moments.

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I'm not saying like, hey, I'm not like a toxic positive person.

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I'm like, just drink some coffee and everything will be okay.

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Like we're going to have a great day today.

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Like it's like, no, that's that's not the story of life.

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That's not how things go. But like it's okay to like romanticize certain parts of your life and be like, this is this is totally fine.

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I don't have to be fearful of life and fearful of what could happen.

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Do I need to be aware of it and even okay, you're walking home late at night. Do you might want to not be on your phone and be aware of your surroundings?

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Yeah, absolutely. Case in point.

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But are you going to be fearful that something could happen?

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I can honestly tell you like time and time again, usually it's not worth the panic attack.

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It's just at least for me, it's like if I can spare a panic attack every once in a while, I'm going to try.

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Honestly, there's nothing wrong with panic attacks.

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But they are scary and they do kind of they tell you that something is about to happen. Sometimes.

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Sometimes it's just your mind going off from either like past trauma

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And the best way that I can describe it is if you've never had like a panic attack before, it is like about like all these fears, like just kind of going off in your brain.

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But the best way to describe it is kind of like a smoke detector just like going off and like beeping continuously.

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And I have this happen recently. So I know it is annoying. And it's like you can either change the batteries, see what's going on, see if you have a fire in your house, or you can just ignore it and hope that it goes away.

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But sometimes it's going to come back if you don't address it.

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If you don't address that fear, hit on and say, okay, these are what this is what's happening. Why is this happening? And kind of getting to the bottom of that.

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Okay, so I need to I need to change the batteries in this smoke detector because it is chirping and keeping me up at night.

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I can't ignore this problem anymore.

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So yeah, panic attacks for me, like it's your kind of put your hand on your chest, try to like help it.

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I don't know exactly why it is that you like kind of I don't know what but it's like I know that I do that too. Like it's like I put my hand on my chest, but kind of like whatever like we people trying to stop it.

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And but yeah, they're basically like the fears that are just kind of like coming up and bubbling to the surface.

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Like it's like your stress, your anxiety, all these different things that is like I had shoved down for so long and now they're finally coming to the surface.

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So hopefully that explains that point too.

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For you, if you're not not familiar with it, that's I know that's a super weird analogy of how to explain like mental health, but that's just kind of the way that my mind works sometimes.

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I would definitely love to hear anybody's like kind of thoughts or like hot takes on like either like bird box or like your fears, what that kind of like means to you and maybe how do you like resolve these fears?

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I would say if it's like, honestly, I find that like talking to someone just kind of like getting those fears out and knowing who can truly be your safe space.

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If like if someone who is like you are 911, like when you're going through a hard time, who's your 911 that you call?

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Now, if I'm going through like a certain emergency, I have people that I contact with that.

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But like honestly, not that you want to make this person your entire position like life or but you want to know how people in your corner and not just the people that's going to be like hyping you up or the ones that tear you down, for instance.

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But someone who can be with you through thick and thin and also the individuals that okay.

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So case in point, I some of my friends in the past and like that's why 2023 was also a rough year.

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I've had some fair weather friends.

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Okay, not even gonna lie.

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Now, do you want to like put a disclaimer on this?

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Probably both of us did not handle things the way that we should have.

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So it's like it's not necessarily on any body like one particular.

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So that's that's that's cool. That's whatever.

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But you see, sometimes people are like fair weather friends like when life is kind of like sprinkling when you know, or it's like completely sunny and you're like, okay, let's hang out by the pool.

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Let's do that. But when like tornadoes and hurricanes come and it's like natural disaster type things, like I said, I will never ever try to like make anybody get wet from my storm.

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I used to like in for the longest time in my life used to think that I had to like if someone else was like drowning, I would try to rescue them send them off to shore all the while while I would be drowning.

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But I was like, well, I got to time my drownings better.

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We can't be drowning at the same time, right?

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And then I realize, wait, that's that's not a thing. Sometimes life doesn't necessarily play an oh, your friends going through something hard right now.

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Sorry, you got to be going through an easier thing. Yeah, I forgot.

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Life it's like, no, life's not like that. I'll give you a pass like, life doesn't always do that.

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I realize that. And so sometimes it's like you have to like, no, okay, these people are going to be there for me, like when times are good, when times are great even also when times are kind of like, mid or they kind of like it's like I can deal with the mid too.

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Like when I am completely completely in my feelings and I'm like, I need a hang out.

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I'm not usually the best person at now if you need someone to be your cheerleader or to talk you down from like doing something, I will be there for you 100%.

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Like it's like, you know, don't have to worry about that. If I'm going through something though, I'm like, I am okay. Am I going to be a burden? What do I do?

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And sometimes like it breaks me out. But like it's like, like I said, with that being said, know who you actually have in your corner.

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Because there may be some people who might pretend to be in your corner may pretend to have you back, like all the time. But one thing that I would like ask you, ask yourself if something, if something happened, like,

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to you, would they even, like, let's say, let's say you were on the side of the lead and this is how you know someone's in your corner.

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Would they try? Would they be the one calling 911 if they catch and do with blood? Would they be the one that's doing CPR? Or would they be the one that would just walk away and not even care if anything happened to you?

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If they were like, you know, I don't do well with blood. I will, as you can tell from like the movie, like it was really a great movie.

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I don't mind the rating as much. I just don't really enjoy blood scenes. But it depends on the blood. If it's like some movies, they look like they got stabbed with grape juice and I'm like those movies I can deal with.

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Some movies it's just like, oh, okay, we're doing that. Like, you know, when they come at them and they just like stab them and it's like a blood water fountain.

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I was like, oh, blood fountain, maybe? I was like, first of all, I'm not a doctor and honestly could never be a doctor. But is that supposed to happen?

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Like, I don't know. Was that just like Hollywood? Like saying, this is what happens? Like, it's like, not that I want to like, but it's like, does that happen? Anyway, that's like besides the point.

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I just can't really deal with those types of scenes. So I've even told people, I'm like, you know, we have like this training at my job. It was like a tourniquet training.

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And I was like, you know what, if you need someone to comfort you emotionally, I will be there for you. If you need me to put on the tourniquet, you better ask someone else because I can't do that.

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Because also, one, I am super awkward. Second, I don't know if I would get it tight enough, like around, because like how I know that people say there's good Samaritan laws that will protect you.

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But how far does the good Samaritan law go? Because it's like, I will literally check on you, make sure that you're okay, call the ambulance, sit with you, and I will try my best to hype you up in that situation.

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And if I have to lie to you, what I mean because people's like, does this look bad? Like when they have like blood on it? I'm like, nah, no.

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What? You're not even looking at it. Yes, exactly. Because I can't look at it. And because I have a horrible poker face, like I just, I can't.

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But I will try. I will try for your mental safety and your mental stability to be there for you.

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But if someone is in your corner, they're either going to be the one calling 911, doing the CPR if you need it, grabbing the tourniquet,

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they're not going to be the one that's like walking away. At least they tried something.

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And so I would just encourage you to like kind of check on that and evaluate your friendships, evaluate your relationships to see if hey, would they even care?

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And then also like when you are fearful, like sometimes what helps is kind of like doing, what helps me personally?

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Now if you are like, so meditation helps if like your faith based, if you're spiritual, if you're like, you know, not so, like it helps like anyone,

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even if you're like doing like, I mean the statistics, you can check on the statistics on that. It does actually help like your mental stability a lot more than you would actually think.

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So sometimes what, if I feel myself like zoning out and like having like a panic attack, I will like literally focus on like an object.

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Now don't stay too long because this has gotten me in trouble before, but don't like, like look at something where, and if you can look in a least populated area,

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that's what I'm saying it's got me in trouble for because I'm like, oh my gosh, no, I wasn't staring at you, I was staring at like the wall or something.

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Anyway, so funny, funny thing, that's a story for another time. Anyway, so like just, you know, look at a wall, also, see, counseling,

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you're always like here, probably me, so that if you ever, also like some grounding techniques of like the three.

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So it's like three things you see, what you feel, what you hear. Now some people do like the five, four, three, two, one, some people blow blow out candles.

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Basically, what that means, like five, four, three, two, one, it's like five things you see, four things you hear, three things you smell, two things you can taste, and one thing, it's like the five senses, but one thing you feel.

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I might have got that like completely messed up. It doesn't necessarily matter if you're like doing like five things that you see or like five things that you hear, it mainly matters of okay, because some people will get like more focused on like, oh, I did mention four things that I, whatever.

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And it's like, it's not so much on that as much as like looking at, okay, and this was actually from like a licensed therapist that I've learned this from, of going through the technique itself and just saying, okay, this is what, these are the different things that I'm focusing on.

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And it helps you to focus your attention elsewhere versus not necessarily like on your fear. So any type of distraction is always like helpful.

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Like, some, sometimes I know that sounds like really crazy, but like one time I was, I think I was having like a, like I was anxious like all day.

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And like one of my friends was like, hey, you want to talk about it. And I was like, you know what, maybe later, but right now, and they're like, well, we're probably going to go like, I don't know what we're going to do, but like we're going to do like

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some type of like fun activity, like maybe like bowling or like watching a movie or something. And so I was like, okay, let's, let's do that. And they're like, really? But don't you, I was like, I really just need to get my mind off things. I really don't want to think right now.

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And so sometimes that's like helpful, like in the moment to keep yourself busy. And then like later you can deal with it.

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So that's, like, if you ever find yourself like kind of getting worried, and like you know, like a friend who can kind of like talk you out of that, always talking with them one on one.

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Or like maybe they even see you. So you make you like actually heard.

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I know it is sometimes very hard to find friends that you can't lie to. But when you find those friends, I promise you is like one of the best things possible. Like it's like whether you're having a good day or you're having like a midday to not so great day, like finding the friends that they're like, no, something's off about you like today.

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Because then you can kind of talk them through and know that they'll listen, know that they'll hear you, and that they'll respect you.

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Like I say, that is sometimes very, very rare to find. But say it's sometimes fun to lie to people about those types of things. Because we're like, I'm fine. We both know what not. But we'll be okay.

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And then last of all is like kind of something is too is like finding maybe like if you listen to podcasts, if you listen, if you watch like movies, or you like read books, like find some like self help books about like the specific topic.

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Like maybe like fear, anxiety, like how to kind of like work through that. Like one on one.

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Or like even like making a playlist, because like music is completely like one of my like main like therapy forms, or like even like some type of like creative like project creative outlet.

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But I always find this helpful, like for specific specifically for me, why can I not English? I'm like some days I am fine and some days I fumble my words. Anyway,

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like finding that type of space, we can just kind of like look into different outlets avenues or if you find that like, okay, makeup is kind of like your outlet.

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Like, I've known that sometimes what I've had to do, especially when like the fear, the fear comes, and then the depression comes and you want to switch back to some of your old coping mechanisms.

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Like that was so healthy. Like maybe just like picking up a pen and kind of like writing out your thoughts. Like, if you're not like so much into like journaling, but like, let's say, maybe you like poetry, you can do like poetry, like slam poetry, written word, or like spoken word, I guess.

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There were like some really good like spoken word like poetry out there that could even like get you started with that.

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But like, I've written some like poems down and I even have like, I've recently started getting back to poetry, because for some odd reason, like writing my thoughts down like journaling used to be kind of easy.

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Now it's like, from the time I was like maybe like, I want to say like I started like actually writing poems when I was like a teenager.

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I do like regret that I like threw away some of like my journals, but I didn't want anybody to kind of like see them and kind of like write about them and then because some of them were like really dark and probably should have sought therapy then.

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But I'm like, I still they're all in my head. Right. Like, I remember like certain ones that I put in like the certain topics that I wrote about, because they're just like so ingrained in me.

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I remember like topics like the power, really, really weird. And what kind of what journals I wrote them in. But I like threw my journals away just because I was like, I don't want anybody to like, maybe read them, even if it's like a future like relationship that like they kind of like

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picking up and it's just like, what were you going on? Like, I don't want anyone to have that unsolicited advice. So I'm just like, I just, I just, but I have like started getting back into poetry.

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Now, even now, some of my poems, it's just a way of like me kind of like processing my emotions.

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Because poetry, it has like a lot of like symbolism. And so it's easier to kind of like grasp the concept a little bit more for me, specifically, other people like reading it, they might have to have like a translator, but it's like, to me, like those, everything kind of like makes sense.

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When I'm writing poetry, doesn't have to make sense for everybody.

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So that's like one avenue. If you are into like art, because art therapy is a thing.

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Like maybe like kind of drawing like different pitches of kind of like what you're feeling like at the moment.

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One, like I say, even like making a musical playlist, I have like a musical playlist when I was going through like friendship breakups kind of.

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I have like a playlist for that, because it's like it kind of like helped me like process. Even like before I knew what was kind of going on with that situation, I was like, I should not kind of relate this song every time that I hear this song in the radio to this, this situation.

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But like it kind of like helped me process my emotions, understand kind of what was going on at that particular time, and even like help me to heal.

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Because like, it's like this therapy in different ways.

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I mean, definitely know yourself with maybe getting like a, you can get like a, there's like a self love book that you can get on Amazon.

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So like even like working through that, what encourage you to do it with someone, but you can look into that.

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Kind of getting out of like your house, getting out of like your mind and just kind of like going maybe for walks and different things around like your neighborhood. I'm like trying to like even like figure out like what is the best.

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Like what's the right word? Like what are the best things to do in my area? Because there's something around like every single place.

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And just kind of like figuring out different events. I'm trying to be better about that because right now I don't do that enough or as often as I would like because I'm like, I get healed by that type of thing being out and about being with people, like just tapping kind of like a fun time.

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And like I said, that's kind of why like I haven't even like posted on the podcast because I've been like pretty busy and it's not like a bad busy. It's like you have you have something with this friend one week and then you have something with this one.

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And then that's the person and you know, it just kind of like happens that way. And like I say, nothing, nothing bad.

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But because of that, I haven't been able to kind of like do the podcast. But honestly, it's like it's one of those things where it's like I'm in like, I'm not saying like 2024 has been like, you know, all cracked up to be some people's like,

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this is your year, the change do better and just all this different things. Yes, joining it, still kind of like figuring out the routine and getting into the rhythm of 2024. Yes, and do you still need to like build out those daily habits and those routines?

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I think so. I'm like, you know, there was some things that I would have never expected would have happened in 2024 but also some like great unexpected things. Like I say, 2023 was a wild ride for me mentally.

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So 2024 actually doesn't seem that bad. Like, you know, I heard this one and I think it was like maybe on a podcast or something like a podcast snippet.

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But it was basically like this one person was saying how they just wanted things to be level and not really any highs and lows and then I think it was like a therapist I told them, hey, like, it's the highs and lows of like that kind of make this life all like worth it.

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Because, you know, when you look at the flatline machine, if you're lying, it's straight across your, you're not really like moving nothing. I mean, that's putting a lively but like, you know, but with the waves on the machine.

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That's how you know, like, to your life. Life is lifing, maybe not in like the best ways, like possible.

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But I will say if you stay and like if it's like a wave, that's, that's okay. Because you will eventually make it over like the next high point. We can actually like fully like come like be okay in that moment.

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But I will say if it like transgresses like it did for me, like, and they kept going down would on like kind of, I guess it's not like like a bar graph.

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Anyway, so if it keeps going down before like you reach that like higher point where you can be okay. I would I would encourage you to seek professional help even so 988 is always available.

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It's like the mental health helpline. So I would definitely definitely encourage you to look into that.

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If you have not been able to yet. Just please, please, please don't stay there. I do know what that's like. And I would rather rather stay on the phone with you for hours, like kind of like just, I know sometimes people like say that.

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And it's sometimes seems like a cliche with how many people would kind of say it. It's like, you can always talk to me you're not a burden.

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But no, seriously, like if you are going through something like reach out to someone like anyone that is your life is worth so much more than you probably even know.

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Okay, like you will with way more than that. And I'm really sorry if other people I'm kind of going on a tangent, but I will get the carrot and come back from that bunny trail.

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I promise you, just talk to someone, someone who may understand what you're going through.

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And like know what your worth is. Because for one, you never really know.

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Maybe you are the reason that someone like kind of wakes up every day like with a smile on their face. But like people need in their life.

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I know sometimes people might not say that. Sometimes people make you feel otherwise. But don't kind of let these like fears overwhelm you and like kind of distract you from like the main goal, who you are meant to be.

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What your purpose is, who you are. Yeah, I just, I can't stress that enough. I'm like, I do, I know what it's like to kind of go through that and just not feel like you have anyone in your corner.

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I just, you know, but I promise you, like it is always something that you can kind of hold on to or someone.

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So I would just definitely encourage you like to seek out some help if you don't have that. And if you like remain in fear, maybe like, even if like the panic attacks have gotten too much where it's like, I cannot function anymore.

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I will tell you like straight up I'm like on meds right now because of that. It's not, it's not anything to be ashamed of.

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Mental health is no joke and it, but I just want to encourage you that there's like always like better out there for you.

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Like even like with life and like with some, yeah.

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Well, that's like a really big tangent and maybe some of it doesn't really make sense probably towards the end. But like, you are worth it. You are loved, you are respected.

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And someone, someone does need you. Okay. I know sometimes it's harder to see the bigger picture now, but there's always something worth living for.

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So find your purpose, know you're worth. And also like, yeah, if you need to seek help, seek help, seek professional help.

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Okay, that was clear. I, well, that is the end of this episode. Again, sorry for like the bunny trail towards the end, but thought that it might need to be mentioned.

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Until next time, peace and see you on the next one.

