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Welcome to the Bob and Cancer Show. Hi, I'm Bob Kevoian and we're back after a long pause

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and I guess 30 days of not having to worry about anything.

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And we've worried a little.

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We've worried but...

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Don't lie now, Bob.

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I know, but it wasn't, there wasn't test after test after test, radiation, that and everything.

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That was all, it's all done.

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Treatment is over.

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And just had some tests and stuff I had to do, but it's been a nice break, but we're

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back at it.

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This one episode will be the last one before surgery.

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Well, did you want to talk about your new partner or is that old news?

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The Cancer Show?

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No, I'll talk, I'll kill him later.

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I mean...

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Okay.

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Yeah, I mean, no, we don't need to talk about him.

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Okay.

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Yeah, here we are and it's been kind of an interesting 30 days.

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It has been short and long.

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I guess I should introduce my partners.

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To my left, your right.

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If you're playing at home.

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If you're at home.

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My lovely bride, Becky.

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Hello.

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And to my right and your left, I'm in best buddy, Whit Grayson.

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Hey, Bob.

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Hello, Whit.

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Hello, everyone.

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Good to have you all back together.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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This feels weird after such a long break.

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Yeah.

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We've done all of these on our kitchen table.

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We're not in a studio.

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We're just sitting here at the house and turn on some mics and...

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Hey, I remembered to turn off the ice machine.

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Oh, good.

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I was wondering, it is kind of silent.

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On a few of the episodes, you could hear odd sounds in the background.

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Before we get started with anything about what happened in the last 30 days, I want

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to thank everyone who downloaded our podcasts.

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The first six episodes, we released all at once.

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And I'm just dumbfounded how amazing...

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The response.

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The response has been so wonderful.

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Almost 30,000 downloads.

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Really?

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That's crazy.

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It really is crazy.

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Hundreds a day, every day since we launched it, which was, I don't remember what date

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that was.

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I guess about three or four weeks ago.

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I don't know.

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Yeah.

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We've got 1,500 emails from people who are sending their wishes, best wishes, and talking

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about their cancer battles.

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And it's been very inspiring.

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People who went to the effort...

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This is what blows me away.

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Went to the effort of going to thebobandcancershow.com, clicking on contact or whatever the button

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is, and then putting in their name, putting in their email, writing their comment.

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And that's an effort.

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It's not just like hitting like on a Facebook page or a quick comment.

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There's effort involved.

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And they went to the effort, and we have read every single one.

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And I want people to know that Bob is receiving them and is reading them.

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Well, I've read every one of them.

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It's amazing.

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It's amazing.

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It really has been very inspirational.

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Very emotional.

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And I thank each and every one of you for sending your best wishes.

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Well, like you said, they go to the effort probably for one or two, if not both reasons.

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You've touched them.

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They care about you.

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They want to know you're doing okay.

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And or they've had something similar.

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Oh, many, many comments from people.

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I've gotten those comments from three or four people say, I went through this.

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My dad went through this.

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My mom went through this.

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It's amazing how many lives cancer has touched.

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Oh, it's just awful.

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It is really something.

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The response is just overwhelming.

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Plus, thanks for filling things out.

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We have a mailer coming out later.

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What does that mean?

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Oh, we got Jack Ma.

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Jelly of the month clip.

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I do want to mention one of the very first comments we got.

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I believe it was a Twitter reply.

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I could look it up and mention his name, but maybe I shouldn't.

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But he said, the timing of this is amazing.

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I'm sitting in the chair at the hospital receiving chemotherapy right now.

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And I just got the notification about Bob's podcast launch.

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And I'm so grateful.

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Thank you for doing this.

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And it just was so touching.

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And it made me feel like, gosh, you know, we're sitting here, just the three of us talking

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and we don't think about the people that are out there going to be listening or having

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listened already, and it's touching them and making a difference in their lives.

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It's just unbelievable.

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I spoke to a buddy who said that the most powerful message he got was that Bob caught

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his early.

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Yes, I did.

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And that very lucky that that message is universal.

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And you know, as we've said, we've heard we've all heard that early detection, early detection.

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But boy, oh, boy, it's true.

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It sure is.

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I mean, go to your doctor.

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We have, for the most part, a guarantee they're going to get rid of this.

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And it's all because we caught it early.

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I also had comments say we're a little surprised that it was as funny as you've made it.

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Right, right.

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And I said, you know, I've been Bob's writing partner for 35 years.

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There aren't many topics that are off limits when you've got a good joke, right?

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I know.

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Speaking of good jokes, should I should I share?

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OK, my my brother in law, Rex, has been on occasion sending me jokes trying to keep me

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in good moods.

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And you know, a lot of the jokes I've heard, some I have not.

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This is one I had not heard before.

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So I'll share it with you now.

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Oh, boy.

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What's the difference between a chickpea and a red kidney bean?

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I don't know.

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I've never had a red kidney bean on my face.

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Now, that is very funny.

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I know I read that.

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Thank you, Rex.

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That is brilliant.

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Thank you very, very much.

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And it's hard to find.

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I told Bob it's hard to find a joke joke that Bob hasn't already heard.

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You know, that is when people tell you a joke like that, your mind starts racing.

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I'm trying to call her.

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You've already solved it.

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Thank you, Rex.

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Attaboy, Rex.

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So it's been 30 days.

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We're earning our explicit.

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And also speaking of the podcast, when we were doing, I guess, all the essentials you

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need to put a podcast out, which is photographs, I guess, bios.

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And Becky and I were looking at each other going, you know what?

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It looks like we're actually writing our obituaries.

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Remember when we were collaborating on Whit Grayson and describing your career and your

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interests?

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It does seem somewhat posthumous.

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I feel like we could use any of those as our obituary.

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Like if we all three get killed in the bus.

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I hope not too soon.

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But it's very odd when you have to write something about yourself.

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It's hard to do.

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So go to the website and read them.

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Now you've really got me worried.

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You've got me worried.

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I know.

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Is there something missing?

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And just in case, God forbid something happens to me, would you put insert decent bowler

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in mine?

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I mean, come on.

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But are you?

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I know.

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No.

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But it's been 30 days, I think, since we did our last broadcast and we were at the Indianapolis

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Motor Speedway waiting for the race.

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We broadcast the day before the race took place.

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We got to ring those bells.

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Ring the bells and I actually had enough energy to go to the race and watch Joseph Newgarden

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win the race and it was a very, very enjoyable weekend for me and the family.

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And that Bob was able to accomplish that, I think, was just an enormous goal.

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Did it wipe you out?

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It wiped him out.

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We were there for five days.

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And even though it's luxury camping, there's work.

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It's hot.

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There was quite a few folks.

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I'm glad I did it.

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I was totally exhausted.

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I'll bet.

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When we got home, I mean, I don't think I did a whole lot.

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In fact, one day our grandson was here and Bob was, I don't know what you do.

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Like you sleep on the couch.

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He was laying on the couch, which you rarely see.

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I mean, Bob does not lay down on the couch.

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And he was zonked out and Andrew came into the room and he said, Grandma, it looks like

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grandpa has a dead battery.

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I mean, I was drained completely.

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He had to recharge for quite a long time after the track.

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Because it just five days of camping takes it out of you if you don't have cancer.

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But we made it home and it was great.

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That's when I didn't have to start.

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I didn't have to follow calories and protein again.

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I was going to ask that.

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I thought that regimen is.

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We didn't know for sure if we were going to have to.

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I was still counting everything.

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Becky got a hold of the dietitian asking if we needed to continue.

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Reduce your calories.

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But main thing is to keep my weight.

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You know, don't be losing weight like crazy.

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And I lost a few pounds, but I'm still doing all right.

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It's it's pleasant when you don't you don't have to force feed your your stomach.

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It is nice because I don't have to count every calorie in every gram of protein.

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But at the same time, I got into a routine and I loved it.

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I loved monitoring everything.

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And I got to add and use my calculator and write everything down.

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And then one day, boom, I wasn't doing that anymore.

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And Bob was on his own.

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Well, well, what?

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How's that going, Bob?

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Well, you know, you kind of fall back in your old ways.

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You know, so I'm.

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I wasn't drinking the thousand gallons of water I was required every day.

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He wasn't hydrating.

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Now, he doesn't.

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I don't need to not affect my ice cream intake, though.

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Now, we're going to have an argument right here at the table.

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OK, let's go for it.

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How's your water intake today, Bob?

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Today, it's Gatorade.

266
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No, no water.

267
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So, oh, see, he's supposed to be having water.

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I know.

269
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And Gatorade.

270
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So almost every day I say, have you had any water today?

271
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Maybe you should have a bottle of water.

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And I don't want to bug him.

273
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I don't want to write him.

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I'll have one before I go to bed.

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Oh, boy.

276
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Not to be argumentative, but I know I know if you have coke or coffee, that's dehydrated.

277
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Right.

278
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But I thought Gatorade was just as good.

279
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It is.

280
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And they say that I do have to keep my electrical electrolytes up.

281
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OK.

282
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And Gatorade's fine.

283
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Yeah.

284
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But he didn't drink water consistently for several days.

285
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Several years, actually.

286
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Well, in the past, we've talked about that.

287
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No, no.

288
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He hates water, but he got used to it and he enjoyed it when his throat was burning

289
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from the from all the treatment.

290
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It was the most soothing drink I had.

291
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He drank it a lot.

292
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And then as soon as they said, you don't have to.

293
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Well, a lot of the pain and everything else disappeared.

294
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And all of a sudden I didn't need that.

295
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That drink to soothe my throat.

296
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So by not hydrating as effectively, OK, we went down a new road, didn't we, Bob?

297
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Which roads that I don't know this.

298
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The road.

299
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Say it out loud.

300
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Oh, oh, the back pain road.

301
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He went down the back pain road.

302
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Yes.

303
00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,280
I had.

304
00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:50,880
Well, this during this 30 days of absence, we've had a lot of things happen.

305
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One.

306
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Yes.

307
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We celebrated Becky's birthday.

308
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Yes.

309
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We do it differently than celebrating Bob's birthday.

310
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That is correct.

311
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Mine is much more enjoyable.

312
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Longtime listeners.

313
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No, we don't have to say no.

314
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And many people still celebrate with me.

315
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But I had tests scheduled for my PET scan and it was on the 21st of January.

316
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My wife's birthday is the 20th of January.

317
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June of June.

318
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I'm sorry.

319
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June.

320
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I'm lost.

321
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Right in June.

322
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And I had to prep for this PET scan on Becky's birthday.

323
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So I couldn't have foods and like go out for a nice meal.

324
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,680
I couldn't make anything for him.

325
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So we went out.

326
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Eat.

327
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I planned it all.

328
00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:46,400
So we went out early and celebrated her birthday with family and friends.

329
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I think it was on your birthday with that.

330
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We actually went to dinner.

331
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Maybe the day.

332
00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,240
It was the day afterwards.

333
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OK.

334
00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,200
So all of a sudden we're enjoying ourselves.

335
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And then I all of a sudden start getting these very bad back pains.

336
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We're all gathered at the table.

337
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All of our family enjoy in the night.

338
00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200
And the pains were just they're very uncomfortable.

339
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It's very uncomfortable.

340
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And it lasts for a couple of days.

341
00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,640
The pain moved from my lower back to my upper back and to the stomach.

342
00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,040
Well that's concerning.

343
00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:18,000
And it was it had Becky on edge wondering what's going on.

344
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She thought it was cancer spreading.

345
00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:25,960
I just assumed because we were leading up to this PET scan that we were going to see

346
00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,960
light up.

347
00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:27,960
You know areas.

348
00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,280
I'm like he has cancer on his spine.

349
00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,280
OK.

350
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Well now we're going to cross a new bridge.

351
00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:32,560
Here we go.

352
00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:33,560
I was just prepared.

353
00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:35,880
I wasn't depressed or fearful really.

354
00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:41,760
But it was nagging at me because Bob was so uncomfortable and so tired and struggling.

355
00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,160
And so it wasn't like you'd hurt your back.

356
00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,160
No no.

357
00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,560
But it got to a point where I actually had to call our family physician to check out

358
00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,820
what the heck was going on.

359
00:13:52,820 --> 00:13:59,040
So I went to my family doctor and he did a couple of tests and we determined that it

360
00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,720
was constipation.

361
00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,320
Lo and behold.

362
00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,320
Really.

363
00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,320
Yes.

364
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Severe constipation.

365
00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,520
And we learned about water.

366
00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,160
Well we also learned about a particular chart.

367
00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,680
Yes we did.

368
00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:19,800
While we were doing this while we were doing this someone I think it was a couple of days

369
00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,400
after I actually got moving again.

370
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:29,600
Someone said well have you checked it with the stool tool stool tool.

371
00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,200
Have you heard of this.

372
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,320
It's a thing.

373
00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,320
It's a thing.

374
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,320
Never heard of it.

375
00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,320
Never heard of it.

376
00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,320
It's the Bristol stool chart.

377
00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,320
It really is.

378
00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,040
It's such a thing.

379
00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,440
If you go on Google and look it up the Bristol stool chart.

380
00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,440
Pardon me.

381
00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:49,480
And it has about I think seven or eight different categories.

382
00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,480
Little milk duds.

383
00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,480
Little you know.

384
00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,680
So it's like when you go used to go in to get a haircut.

385
00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,200
You saw different pictures on the wall.

386
00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,200
It is.

387
00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,200
Yeah I'll do the number five.

388
00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,200
Yeah yeah yeah.

389
00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,040
Exactly like that.

390
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:06,680
Because they said when we went to the finally went to the nurse at the cancer center she

391
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:11,560
was asking about this severe constipation and how Bob had been suffering and and how

392
00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:12,560
are you doing now.

393
00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,080
And he said well just normal now.

394
00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,920
And she said normal is different for everyone.

395
00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,120
And we all think normal right.

396
00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,080
You just go well everything's normal.

397
00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,600
Well then she pulls out this stool tool.

398
00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,240
We're like what.

399
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,640
You should check the stool tool.

400
00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,320
It's like OK I didn't know this existed.

401
00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:37,360
But yeah there is a little chart a big chart of different like animated and do they know

402
00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,360
they don't smile.

403
00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,360
They don't smile.

404
00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,360
They don't smile.

405
00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,240
What's that little guy on Saturday Night Live.

406
00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,240
Mr. Oh yeah.

407
00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,240
Mr. Bill.

408
00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,240
But then there's Mr. Hankey on that.

409
00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,240
That's who I was thinking of.

410
00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,240
Yeah.

411
00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:48,240
No no no.

412
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,240
Nothing like that.

413
00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,240
All right.

414
00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,240
Well yeah it was like Mr. Hankey.

415
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,640
But I was surprised when that when she asked about the stool tool and I thought oh boy

416
00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,320
Tom Griswold would.

417
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,240
I mean I have never heard that.

418
00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,600
Wouldn't you think we would have heard of that.

419
00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:00,600
I know of all people.

420
00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080
I think we should frame a stool tool chart and give it to Tom for Christmas.

421
00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,080
Or put it in one of your bathrooms.

422
00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,080
Put it in a bathroom over the urinal or something.

423
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,080
Yeah.

424
00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,080
Right.

425
00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,080
That would be very funny.

426
00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,080
I don't think so.

427
00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,080
That would be a good memento of cancer treatment.

428
00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:16,440
Well digressing as Bob and I always said you don't go to another guy's house and do number

429
00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,440
two.

430
00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,440
No no no no no no.

431
00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,440
That is a breach of friendship.

432
00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,440
That is a home field thing only.

433
00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,440
Is that called an away game?

434
00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,440
Is that what you used to say?

435
00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:23,440
Home field only.

436
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:24,440
You don't do that.

437
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,880
Well away games are you never.

438
00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,880
Nope.

439
00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,880
No.

440
00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,880
What if you have to?

441
00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:30,880
Do you leave the party?

442
00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:31,880
Well if you can.

443
00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,880
You know you can drive down to the cast.

444
00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:34,880
You don't.

445
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,760
I mean how many times do you go to a party.

446
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,760
You don't.

447
00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,960
Not knowing that you're going to have an emergency situation.

448
00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:44,960
That's very true.

449
00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960
I would never.

450
00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,440
It kind of reminds me one time Lynn.

451
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,880
My sister Lynn needed help going in and out of the little potty room you know and I when

452
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,960
she was more able.

453
00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,400
We had a party and Lynn had to go to the bathroom so I walked her in.

454
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,800
Got her all set up and shut the door.

455
00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800
Pretty soon she hollers for me that she's done and I went in to get her and she said

456
00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,560
what are you going to do about that guy?

457
00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,560
I said what guy?

458
00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,280
And she goes that guy in the pink shirt.

459
00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,280
I said what?

460
00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,640
She goes he walked right in on me scared me to death.

461
00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,760
He had a pink shirt.

462
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,480
See that guy with the pink shirt.

463
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,760
I was like I don't know who it was.

464
00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,160
Somebody walked in on Lynn because I didn't lock the door.

465
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,160
During a party.

466
00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,160
During a party.

467
00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,280
The door was closed but maybe he didn't knock or she was scared and didn't say anything

468
00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,680
but it became kind of.

469
00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,040
Maybe he thought it was a coat closet.

470
00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,040
Who knows.

471
00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,040
And it could have.

472
00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,280
It became one of those kind of family legends where over time we would just be like hey

473
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,480
Bob what are you going to do about that guy in the pink shirt?

474
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,360
Maybe it's like Bigfoot, the Mothman, the guy in the pink shirt.

475
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,360
He might not have existed.

476
00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:53,360
Oh I know.

477
00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:54,360
But you know bathroom trash.

478
00:17:54,360 --> 00:17:55,600
So the stool tool huh?

479
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:56,600
Yes.

480
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:57,600
I was quite surprised.

481
00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,600
Dehydration caused the issue.

482
00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:59,600
Yes.

483
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:00,600
Water.

484
00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,600
Yes indeed.

485
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,600
Okay.

486
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,600
And it does.

487
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520
And so all of you out there please listen to me.

488
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,280
I can be a little bossy but it's with a good intention.

489
00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,280
Drink your water.

490
00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:12,280
Yes.

491
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,280
Flour, cheese.

492
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:14,280
Fluids.

493
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,280
Bob.

494
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,280
Fluids.

495
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,280
What you did for the first 65 years of your life.

496
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,280
I know.

497
00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,760
Maybe it all led up to this.

498
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:22,760
I don't know.

499
00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:23,760
Who knows.

500
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:24,760
Do you drink water with?

501
00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:25,760
Yes.

502
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,880
Just a glass of water.

503
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,520
In the morning during the day I don't pound it like Bob had to.

504
00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,120
Like you know I don't.

505
00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,200
What was it 64 ounces a day?

506
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,680
No it said 80 ounces a day.

507
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:38,680
I don't even know how you do it.

508
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,680
I probably drink 24 ounces a day.

509
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:46,680
But they said 80 ounces a day of non-caffeinated.

510
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,680
Non-caffeine.

511
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:48,680
Yep.

512
00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,480
And he got accustomed to his caffeine free diet Pepsi and that's fine.

513
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,200
I don't turn my nose up to that at all.

514
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,120
I love Pop.

515
00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:56,120
That's fine.

516
00:18:56,120 --> 00:19:00,360
And I'm fine with him to drink Gatorade but I do want to see that water once in a while.

517
00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:03,760
It really worries me when he's not because he's still fighting cancer.

518
00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,960
It wasn't the treatment that built up and caused that issue.

519
00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:07,960
Well yes it did.

520
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:08,960
I mean that is a side effect.

521
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,120
It was all part of what they called cooking off the grill.

522
00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:17,720
When all of the treatments ended they said there would be residual stuff going on for

523
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,920
up to 30 days.

524
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,200
And we've passed that 30 days.

525
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,600
It was one of his worst side effects though.

526
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,040
And it was a side effect of one of the drugs he was on.

527
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:35,560
And that's just natural but the way to counteract that is to drink water to try to not get that

528
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,980
side effect.

529
00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:43,000
And so the side effect came because I'm going to blame Bob for this because he wasn't drinking

530
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,000
enough water.

531
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,000
It's a combo effect.

532
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,000
Yeah.

533
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:52,000
So residual and then you tapered back, no pun intended, on your water.

534
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,000
And so it was.

535
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,520
And the chemo was still in him or whatever.

536
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,520
So yeah.

537
00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,160
There ought to be a medicine for that like Haley's chemo or something like that.

538
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,160
I mean something.

539
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,160
I mean something.

540
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,160
Oh there is a medicine.

541
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,720
It's called Miralax which is what he took.

542
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,200
I've heard that name.

543
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,680
Thankfully you don't have to have it in your closet.

544
00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,280
Many people take that with Gatorade.

545
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,160
Large amounts of it for their colonoscopies and stuff.

546
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,160
Oh okay.

547
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,160
It will soften everything up.

548
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,320
You know, boy I bet everybody's happy they tuned into this mess.

549
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,640
This is wonderful isn't it?

550
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,760
So let's talk about the other things that happened in this 30 days.

551
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,760
Oh yeah.

552
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,120
To segue, are you feeling?

553
00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:29,120
Oh I feel wonderful.

554
00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:30,120
Oh yeah.

555
00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:31,120
Oh yeah.

556
00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:32,120
He feels normal.

557
00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:33,120
I do.

558
00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,320
Normal whichever normal is on your chart.

559
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:43,400
But in the 30 days I still had some pre-surgery tests that we had to take.

560
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,000
And just for people that don't know, I do sadly from experience.

561
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,800
What is a PET scan?

562
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,920
A PET scan is when they inject you with a dye.

563
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:59,520
It takes 45 minutes for this dye to go through your body and then they run me through one

564
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:06,280
of those open-ended MRI machines and they scan what they call from eyes to thighs.

565
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,720
Wow.

566
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,040
All of the things going on.

567
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,040
I didn't know that.

568
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,240
I think we're going to talk about it at the end.

569
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Oh sorry okay.

570
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,560
Because I don't want to talk about it.

571
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,960
It was so oppressive leading up to that if you know what I mean.

572
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,520
Not fear really, just it was a wait.

573
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:24,520
What's the unknown?

574
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,520
Yeah the unknown of it.

575
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,520
It is the unknown.

576
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520
But we'll talk about that at the end of this.

577
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,320
That's what a PET scan is, they load you up with dye and then they scan you.

578
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:37,320
It took about I think 45 minutes for the dye to work its way through the body and then

579
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,960
another half an hour in the MRI machine.

580
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:48,680
And then I had a pulmonary test, a venous duplex test.

581
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,920
Which is an ultrasound of your leg and.

582
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,640
Yeah they come up there.

583
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,160
We went to the heart hospital for this.

584
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,920
We went up to the waiting room.

585
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,120
And while we're in the waiting room.

586
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,800
I'm going to have to wait with Bob.

587
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,520
So I'm going to have to wait for him I should say.

588
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,240
So I have my earbuds.

589
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,280
So I'm sitting there looking around checking out the other people in the waiting room.

590
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,220
And all of a sudden Becky gets up.

591
00:22:15,220 --> 00:22:18,020
I dropped my earbud.

592
00:22:18,020 --> 00:22:21,840
She gets on her knees in front of me.

593
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,320
Was it your birthday Bob?

594
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,320
It wasn't.

595
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:31,000
And I look around the room and I go not here.

596
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000
See.

597
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,000
Oh my god.

598
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,480
This is what I have to put up with.

599
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,640
But he did make me laugh out loud.

600
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,320
And I had to dig down in there and find my earbud.

601
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,360
I found it.

602
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:48,880
So we went in for this duplex test.

603
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:54,760
Oh wait the ultrasound tech came out to get us.

604
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,200
And we both stood up as we always do.

605
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,760
And he's going to walk away with her.

606
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,720
And he gives me a kiss goodbye.

607
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,360
And then she says oh you can come back with him.

608
00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:06,520
This is the first time out of everything that Becky's been able to go in.

609
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,520
I've never gotten to go back.

610
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,960
To a test procedure of some sort.

611
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,480
Which I found interesting.

612
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,440
But then we're walking toward the little treatment room.

613
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,760
And she says are you two newlyweds?

614
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,360
I'm like what?

615
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:21,560
No we're not actually.

616
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,880
But we had a smooch and we were holding hands walking down the hall.

617
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,800
And evidently that's unusual.

618
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,800
My guess.

619
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,800
Not for real.

620
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
I always held Deb's hand when we go back.

621
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,960
I mean I know.

622
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:33,960
Right.

623
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:34,960
Were you newlyweds?

624
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,960
I know.

625
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,600
So but anyhow we go in the room.

626
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,600
She led us back there.

627
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,600
I had to take off my pants.

628
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,240
Leaving my underwear on.

629
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,560
Dropping his drawers.

630
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,560
I had to get on the table.

631
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,960
They put a paper blanket over me.

632
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280
Every other treatment he had these nice warm blankets.

633
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,640
Would you like a warm blanket?

634
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,720
A paper blanket.

635
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,720
Like a bump?

636
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,720
Like this.

637
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,160
It sounded like this.

638
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,200
What was that going to do?

639
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,200
I don't know.

640
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,560
But I guess just covered me.

641
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,560
Just privacy I guess.

642
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,560
He's so modest.

643
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,560
It was odd.

644
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,500
It was just odd.

645
00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:12,520
So she came in and she starts doing the ultrasound.

646
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,800
Right up in the area here.

647
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,800
I mean way up there.

648
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,800
In the groin-ish.

649
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,640
This is not bad.

650
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,660
So I jumped up with my camera.

651
00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:25,360
Because I thought I gotta take this picture for wit.

652
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,480
So I'm down at the foot of the bed.

653
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,320
She's gonna send you a picture of another.

654
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,320
Of a woman.

655
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,320
This woman had her hand up in her box.

656
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,320
Stand up my pants.

657
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,180
So I jumped up.

658
00:24:34,180 --> 00:24:36,640
Go to the end of the bed with my camera or phone.

659
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:37,820
And I'm holding it up.

660
00:24:37,820 --> 00:24:40,360
And I said oh I've gotta get a picture of this for wit.

661
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,920
And that tech turned around and said no!

662
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,640
No no no!

663
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,240
Absolutely not!

664
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,240
No photos.

665
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,560
And I said oh it's from the back.

666
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,560
We won't see you.

667
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,240
No no this is HIPAA.

668
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,680
I could lose my job.

669
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,520
I'm telling you that HIPAA rears its ugly head.

670
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,520
I guess it does.

671
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,880
I never would have thought of that.

672
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,920
No it was private for us to show you.

673
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,560
I felt like I'm gonna go look what they do at the hospital or something.

674
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,400
But I stopped and sat back down.

675
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560
I was a little disappointed because it was very funny.

676
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,920
It was a funny photo.

677
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,920
It really was.

678
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,440
It would have been hilarious wit.

679
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,440
Oh well.

680
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,120
Sorry you didn't get that photo.

681
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:19,520
This is why you sign up for Medicare part Z.

682
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,520
Z.

683
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Well then about halfway through she's doing this ultrasound all up and down his legs looking

684
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,360
at the deep veins or something.

685
00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,960
I don't know it's pre-surgery test.

686
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,200
And then she just starts laughing.

687
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,340
She's like you know?

688
00:25:33,340 --> 00:25:38,080
And she's laughing and she said I've never experienced someone wanting to take our picture

689
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,440
when I'm running this test.

690
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,480
I'm like well you've never had Bob before.

691
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,160
So that's just to see if you're circulating.

692
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,320
I guess the veins are moving if I am you know circulations good.

693
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,400
It's such a big surgery.

694
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,040
It's not like when I had my gallbladder out.

695
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,140
They didn't have to do any a bunch of pre-tests or anything.

696
00:25:57,140 --> 00:26:02,520
This is such a major open body surgery that they're checking his heart, his lungs and

697
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,680
his veins and everything.

698
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,960
They just have to do that.

699
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,960
But I just thought it was funny that she laughed and we made her laugh.

700
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,440
It's done that she I guess she could lose her job I suppose.

701
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,440
I would think.

702
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,440
I don't know under what grounds.

703
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,320
I don't know what the actual HIPAA rules are.

704
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,320
I don't either.

705
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,000
They're obviously very strict.

706
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,640
But when we went back to the radiation area and our friend what was her name Bob?

707
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,640
Paula and Michelle.

708
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,760
Paula and Michelle are in there.

709
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,800
And Bob was a little bit nervous when we went in for that.

710
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,360
That was for the PET scan that Paula might not be there.

711
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:42,160
I said I wonder if this HIPAA thing is a little bigger and broader than we think and that

712
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,560
Paula would lose her job because she actually attended our podcast.

713
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,440
Remember when we talked about it?

714
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,440
Not the case.

715
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,440
Because we invited her.

716
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,440
And that's what she said.

717
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,160
You can talk about it all you want.

718
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:58,460
She said I cannot talk about it to anyone that I know Bob or that I'm aware that he's

719
00:26:58,460 --> 00:26:59,940
having cancer treatment.

720
00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:01,240
And she doesn't talk about it.

721
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,660
She honors that.

722
00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:06,320
We are the ones who invited her to be present.

723
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,320
And it worked out.

724
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,760
But Bob was just a little bit trepidatious about it.

725
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:19,720
And in this 30 days we found out a good friend of ours, comedian Tim Kavanaugh had a major

726
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,600
major pancreatic surgery that I was not aware of.

727
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,600
I saw that.

728
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,600
Had you seen it?

729
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,720
And it was something.

730
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:32,400
He had and after I read about it it kind of bugged me.

731
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Because he had such horrible complications that it kind of frightened me about my upcoming

732
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,200
surgery.

733
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,200
Understandable.

734
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,200
He had the Whipple procedure.

735
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:49,480
Yes, he had pancreatic cancer and he had a bunch of stuff that they had to do that it

736
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,680
required him to stay in the hospital for almost a month.

737
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,680
And rehab and all kinds of things.

738
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,120
And then he had rehab after that.

739
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:59,520
And his wonderful wife Chris was his total support.

740
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,080
They've had a great result.

741
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,280
He's back working, doing stand up.

742
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,680
Yes, he overcame all of the cancer and he is back functioning as a normal human being

743
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,720
and he's actually performing on stage.

744
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,640
So look up Tim Kavanaugh and read about his journey.

745
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:21,720
And I think there's a couple of great videos out there that he has shared and worth investigating

746
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,320
for encouragement.

747
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:29,580
But at the time Bob first heard about it, we were early into this, just finished treatment.

748
00:28:29,580 --> 00:28:30,920
And it scared Bob.

749
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,000
Well, I understand.

750
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,480
Because of his long, all the complications.

751
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240
I have no idea what will happen.

752
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:47,880
And it just kind of scared me a little bit going, okay, I hope this is that one case

753
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,040
scenario thing that I don't have to worry about.

754
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Didn't you say Saturday you've never had a surgery?

755
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,680
You've not.

756
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,680
No, I've never had a surgery.

757
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,680
Except for the vasectomy.

758
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Right.

759
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,480
But they didn't open them up, did they?

760
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,440
They opened it a little, they got in there and they pulled that macaroni out.

761
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,440
I felt it.

762
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,440
And snipped it.

763
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,400
So yeah, but that's the only surgery.

764
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:16,400
I would say for about three or four days it brought Bob down to kind of a, I wouldn't

765
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,440
say he was depressed, but he was afraid and a little bit down for a few days.

766
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,600
And then I was down, we just had a few days of kind of a little bit of doom around the

767
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,600
house.

768
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,760
And I talked to Bob's brother Peter who's always encouraging and he's having his own

769
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,640
long many years cancer battle.

770
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,840
And he said, just remember when you have a bad day, there's always going to be a better

771
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,400
day tomorrow.

772
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,820
Just ride this day and know that tomorrow will be better.

773
00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:48,280
And it helped us a lot.

774
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,280
He's always encouraging.

775
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,280
Yep.

776
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,400
And Pete's been going through his cancer treatments alone.

777
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,400
All by himself.

778
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,400
All by himself.

779
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Which is so, I can't imagine.

780
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,400
No.

781
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,400
He's been kind of isolated.

782
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040
Yes, he has to be geographically.

783
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,040
Driving himself.

784
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,800
He lives out in the middle of the boonies in the Poconos.

785
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,000
He drives himself to his treatments.

786
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000
Bless his heart.

787
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,040
He comes home and hits the sack for I don't know how long, several days while it knocks

788
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,040
him out.

789
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,720
And then he kind of rebounds for a couple of weeks and goes back in for the next chemo.

790
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,400
But he does it all by himself.

791
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,840
Occasionally he arranges rides for himself, but most of the time he's doing it alone.

792
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,640
And we realize many of you out there who are listening are, I don't know how many.

793
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,640
May have to do it alone.

794
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,640
Yep.

795
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,640
And you can do it.

796
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,400
But I say still, gather friends if you can.

797
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:36,400
Gather loved ones.

798
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,800
Somebody who can cheer you on and stand behind you and be your team.

799
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Because it made an enormous difference for us to have people like Whit still cheering

800
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920
us on every step of the way.

801
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,720
And now all of those listeners that we know are out there cheering you on.

802
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,720
I know.

803
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,720
I can't thank you all.

804
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,120
It's just overwhelming.

805
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,200
Yes it is.

806
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,120
But it's just encourage one another.

807
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,520
If you know someone who's going through this, especially if they're going through it alone,

808
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,520
step up.

809
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,520
Give them a call and say, can I drive you?

810
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,160
I had driven a really dear friend of ours to her cancer treatments because she was going

811
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,320
through it alone.

812
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,360
And I drove her, but you know what?

813
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,600
I didn't know what I was doing.

814
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,080
I dropped her off at the door.

815
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,080
That's what she said.

816
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Just drop me off at the door and come back in whatever, 45 minutes.

817
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,320
But I didn't realize then because I wasn't aware of what it really involves.

818
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,560
I should have gone in and sat with her in the waiting room and been waiting for her

819
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,480
in the waiting room when she came back out.

820
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,480
But I didn't.

821
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,480
I drove her.

822
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,920
We chatted in the car, dropped her off, picked her up, chatted in the car, took her home.

823
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000
I feel like I'm so much more aware now.

824
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,080
Well, and another thing, you said this a while back that they told you stay off the internet.

825
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Oh, absolutely.

826
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,080
And we have.

827
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,000
Because that's going to be the worst case scenario.

828
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Always.

829
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,160
And a corollary to that is when you're sitting in the waiting room, don't assume if someone

830
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,680
is in worse shape than you that that's going to be you.

831
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Right.

832
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Boy, we did early on.

833
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,680
No, it's human nature.

834
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,680
Yeah, we did.

835
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,360
We saw skinny guys with no hair and we're like, oh.

836
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,720
So you go back pain.

837
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,720
Uh-oh.

838
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Yep.

839
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,720
Oh, for sure.

840
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,720
It's human nature.

841
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,680
I wish we could just automatically assume the best, but we don't.

842
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,680
That's not in human.

843
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,680
Not in my nature.

844
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,480
I mean, I tend to be a bit of a Pollyanna, but when we're in the middle of this with

845
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,160
Bob, I'm really not.

846
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,760
You know, we've had fun with this, but cancer is not a lighthearted word.

847
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,880
No, it isn't.

848
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,400
And that's one of the reasons we're doing this.

849
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,920
It's not all gloom and doom.

850
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,280
It's something that you can survive.

851
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,520
It's something that you can do with laughter.

852
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Yes.

853
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,800
You don't have to be depressed the whole time.

854
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,720
But we also don't want to minimize it.

855
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,640
No, but you're going to have your up days and your down days.

856
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,060
That is for sure.

857
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:52,360
There's no way you're always going to be feeling great.

858
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,160
And there's also days, there's no reason to feel depressed the whole time either.

859
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,640
I mean, you can live your life as they told us when we were going through these treatments.

860
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,640
The first day, he said.

861
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,640
Live your life.

862
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Yes.

863
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:04,640
And that's what we did.

864
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,640
Yep.

865
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560
So surgery is the next step?

866
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:08,560
It is the next step.

867
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:09,560
It is the next step.

868
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,560
Is there anything else?

869
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680
I had my final pre-surgery test today.

870
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Okay.

871
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Oh, okay.

872
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:21,240
So they did a, I forgot the word.

873
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,480
They checked my heart with, what do they do with the babies?

874
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Ultrasound.

875
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Ultrasound.

876
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Right, right.

877
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Man, I'm losing my brain.

878
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,480
What do they do with the babies?

879
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,560
Well, again, that's another thing that you've probably heard those words.

880
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Chemobrain.

881
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,880
We hear people say it all the time.

882
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Oh, I have chemobrain.

883
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Mine is age.

884
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Sorry.

885
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,020
But no, you can become, it's not just the medicine that's in you.

886
00:33:44,020 --> 00:33:47,120
But it's also just the process that we're going through.

887
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,120
There's a lot of stuff you're learning.

888
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,360
It's so distracting and so much going on that it is easy to forget things.

889
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:58,200
And I keep telling Bob this one phrase, put it on my tab, because I'll drop things, break

890
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,280
things, forget things, missing Lin, whatever.

891
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Things just add up and I just say, put it on my tab.

892
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,600
I'll deal with it later.

893
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Put it on my tab.

894
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,120
Because we're just distracted, I guess, would be.

895
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Oh, very distracted.

896
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,400
But we're going day to day with everything.

897
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,400
I'm feeling better.

898
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:17,400
Good.

899
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,240
But, of course, I'm not being attacked by poisons right now.

900
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:23,200
We think you're not cooking off the grill now.

901
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,200
I think you're finished.

902
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,200
No, I think that's all done.

903
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,760
You think it's probably processed through?

904
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,760
Believe so.

905
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,760
Okay.

906
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,080
And his hair, because they told us too, the last time we saw him, they're like, well,

907
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,680
some people would say, nope, it's not going to fall out now.

908
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,240
And then someone else said, well, you do cook off the grill, so be aware.

909
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:40,240
It could still residual hit you.

910
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:41,240
But it did not.

911
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:42,240
It never did.

912
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,240
It did not fall out.

913
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:44,240
Never did.

914
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:45,240
He got so lucky that way.

915
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:50,640
I had the heart ultrasound today, which is the last pre-surgery test.

916
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,840
And I guess everything looked all right.

917
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,520
Takes a day or two to find that out.

918
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,440
But they will, after this test, they will now give us a permanent date.

919
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,440
Okay.

920
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,440
That's what I was going to ask.

921
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,440
A surgery date.

922
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,440
Okay.

923
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:11,480
The doctor we met with, all of the doctors after our PET scan, and they said that we

924
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,920
will probably do it middle of July.

925
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,920
Okay.

926
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,920
That's what we're hoping.

927
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,120
So we're not sure what day, but it'll be mid-July.

928
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,920
And it's funny because a lot of our friends are inviting us to do things or putting things

929
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,920
on the schedule.

930
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,920
Wip.

931
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,920
Yeah, I know.

932
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,880
And keep saying, you know what?

933
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,140
Our life is on hold.

934
00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:34,000
We don't even have a surgery date.

935
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,320
We don't know.

936
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,360
And we don't know how long that recovery is.

937
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:43,400
And so we're looking at probably late fall before we can start kind of getting back to

938
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,400
a real life.

939
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,400
We just don't know.

940
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,400
Yeah.

941
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:52,680
But I mean, I asked the doctor, the surgeon, that how long after the surgery can I play

942
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,680
golf?

943
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Okay.

944
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,000
And he said, maybe mid to late September.

945
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
So two months.

946
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Which felt encouraging.

947
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Yeah.

948
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,000
Well, and that's stringent.

949
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,000
It's stringent.

950
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000
And hitting and turning.

951
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
Yeah.

952
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Because his belly's going to be cut open in two different places.

953
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,000
Yeah.

954
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
That's probably physical more than just...

955
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Yeah.

956
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,800
But I think it's mostly the muscles underneath that need to heal more than the actual surgery

957
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,800
scars.

958
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,800
Yeah.

959
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,800
But...

960
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:18,800
We do feel a little more educated now.

961
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,960
Before, it was like, we don't even know.

962
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,400
We just don't know what's going to happen.

963
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,680
Did they tell you how long the surgery is?

964
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Do you have any idea?

965
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,680
Yes.

966
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,680
It's about six hours.

967
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,680
So it's...

968
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,680
It's a big one.

969
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,880
It's a long surgery.

970
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,680
And they keep using the word, this is a big surgery.

971
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:40,400
And I don't know, when you hear that from a surgeon, that seems kind of important.

972
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,040
This is a big surgery.

973
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,600
And they're not taking your tonsils out.

974
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Right.

975
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:50,440
Or even my gallbladder, which when I had mine out 30 years ago was a, to me, a big surgery.

976
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,680
As laypeople, we think of the game Operation.

977
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,680
Of course.

978
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,680
He's going to look like that guy.

979
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Yeah.

980
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,680
I mean...

981
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,120
That's what my eyes are going to look like as I go into that room.

982
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,120
I guarantee it.

983
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,120
Yeah.

984
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,200
But you know, again, they probably have to find everything.

985
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,200
It probably takes them a while to...

986
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200
Well, they've done all the photos.

987
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,840
Apparently all of my organs are where they're supposed to be, which is very good.

988
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,840
Cut you open.

989
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,840
Yeah.

990
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,840
Yep.

991
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,840
Yep.

992
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,840
Dig around, as I say.

993
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,840
Yeah.

994
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,840
Poke around.

995
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,840
That feels like an esophagus.

996
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:19,840
Yeah.

997
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,400
Students over here, which one do you think it is?

998
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,400
I did ask the doctor.

999
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,880
I didn't challenge the doctor like I did the radiologist, but I did ask him if this could

1000
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,280
be done laparoscopy, as a laparoscopy.

1001
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,280
Which is just a...

1002
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,280
The tiny little holes in the cameras.

1003
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,280
And he said no.

1004
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,280
No.

1005
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,280
He said no.

1006
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,280
Okay.

1007
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Because they're going to remove a lot of his stomach and esophagus, even for a very small...

1008
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,400
This is a very small tumor.

1009
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,400
They want the margins.

1010
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,400
They don't want...

1011
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,400
They want to get everything.

1012
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,960
So they're going to take about half of his stomach and half of his esophagus.

1013
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,680
That's about the call they made, yes.

1014
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,000
That's a lot.

1015
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,520
And then move the stomach up to mid-chest area, I guess.

1016
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,520
It's going to be horrible.

1017
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,040
More towards the back, they said.

1018
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,040
Okay.

1019
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,040
Yeah.

1020
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,200
But I said, now, will my insides feel different to me?

1021
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,040
He goes, no, you won't notice a thing.

1022
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,520
And I wanted to know if they were going to crack any ribs to do it.

1023
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,520
And he said no.

1024
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,520
No bones.

1025
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Because that's scary.

1026
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,520
That's a big deal.

1027
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880
Because they're going in up under his arm, kind of on the side.

1028
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Is this a balcony seating opportunity?

1029
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,680
I know.

1030
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,120
I would like to be in the gallery.

1031
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,760
Do they have a glass, you know, med students?

1032
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,040
I don't believe they have what they call the surgery theater.

1033
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,360
Yes, that's what we want.

1034
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,360
No, we don't.

1035
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,560
Actually, I wouldn't be able to handle that.

1036
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,560
You pass out.

1037
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,560
I pass out.

1038
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,560
I would pass out so fast.

1039
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Yes, good point.

1040
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,560
Yeah, we don't want that.

1041
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,560
No, not at all.

1042
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,520
And again, just thinking now, probably due to HIPAA, that's gone.

1043
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520
You know, it's very possible.

1044
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,920
You used to see those shows where...

1045
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,920
But it was Hollywood.

1046
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,920
I think that was...

1047
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,920
I think it was med school though.

1048
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,280
So if you're in med school, those are students watching in the theater.

1049
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Those humans down there gave permission to be...

1050
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040
So the med school, the junior med school couldn't put that on StubHub?

1051
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,040
I don't think so.

1052
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Okay.

1053
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040
I just wondered.

1054
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040
I don't think so.

1055
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040
Okay.

1056
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,040
All right.

1057
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,040
I don't know.

1058
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,040
Okay.

1059
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,240
So we did the PET scan, and it took a little while to get the results.

1060
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,400
But the results came back very, very well.

1061
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Phenomenal.

1062
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,400
That's very good.

1063
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,400
Fantastic.

1064
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:28,880
So we sat down, we had to go back through and see Paula and Michelle go into the room

1065
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,840
waiting for our doctors.

1066
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:37,320
There's a team of doctors, including our radiologist, our quarterback, as they call them, who you

1067
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:43,240
know, and the surgeon, the nurse practitioner, who's our navigator, and all these people

1068
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:49,520
came in, and no one gave us any indication of what we were about to see.

1069
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:57,560
So I was likening it to if you were on trial and the jury comes in, the jury never looks

1070
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,080
at the defendant.

1071
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,640
They don't give any indication of whether it's guilty or not guilty.

1072
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:08,480
And I'm just imagining, of course, the worst, thinking his back is going to light up because

1073
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:13,920
he had all that back pain and fatigue and nothing lit up.

1074
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,800
And the doctor showed us side by side images of how it was before and how it is now.

1075
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:20,960
And it was a beautiful thing.

1076
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Isn't that amazing?

1077
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,960
It truly is.

1078
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,960
That just gave me a chill.

1079
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Oh, it was so beautiful.

1080
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,960
I haven't heard you say it that way.

1081
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:32,560
Now they'll be able to go in and just take that area out and rebuild me inside and life

1082
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,560
goes on.

1083
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Well, I just, I wanted to just reiterate how joyful that moment was.

1084
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,840
I can't imagine.

1085
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,980
Because it was a weight that we both walked in carrying.

1086
00:40:41,980 --> 00:40:47,640
And when they said this is an amazing result, everything is looking just peachy.

1087
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,060
And it was like, whoosh.

1088
00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:53,620
And I couldn't think of another moment in my life where I had that because I've never

1089
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:55,000
been on trial.

1090
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,580
But another moment where I was just waiting and waiting.

1091
00:40:58,580 --> 00:41:02,880
And then the grand relief of, oh, gosh, okay, this is good.

1092
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,880
That's a great analogy because they walk in with poker faces.

1093
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,480
I've been on many juries and you do not look at the defendant.

1094
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,040
You don't give him a thumbs up.

1095
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,800
No, you don't have the one guy winking at you.

1096
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

1097
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:16,640
We got you.

1098
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,400
So no, but it was a tremendous feeling.

1099
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,400
And then congratulations.

1100
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:25,480
Yeah, it was quite a relief to know that they had got it all.

1101
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,440
And I actually said that to our radiologist.

1102
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Well, it appears you did hit the right spot.

1103
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,200
And he did.

1104
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Yeah, got it all.

1105
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,160
And now we move forward and take out.

1106
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:39,440
And then all the questions come about the actual surgery, the hospital stay, the logistics

1107
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,840
of the hospital stay that we we have yet to find out.

1108
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,840
Really?

1109
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,600
I mean, we still have questions and a long stay.

1110
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:47,600
Yeah.

1111
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,640
Becky was worried about not being able to stay in the room with me.

1112
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,800
What did they say about that?

1113
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,560
Well, I asked and they were kind of hemming and hawing like, well, I think you ought to

1114
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,000
be there'll be a little chair in there.

1115
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,840
But it's about it's not about whether there's a spot for me.

1116
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,320
It's about whether I'm allowed to stay.

1117
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,780
Is he in the ICU?

1118
00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:05,780
We don't know all those.

1119
00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:06,780
Oh, okay.

1120
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:07,780
So you don't know you.

1121
00:42:07,780 --> 00:42:11,040
I don't know that they let just a regular person like me stay.

1122
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,040
I don't know.

1123
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,320
I've never been in the ICU with someone.

1124
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,800
I stayed with Lynn in her room, but that's like a hospital room.

1125
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,800
Right.

1126
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,520
So I just don't know.

1127
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,520
We're going to find out.

1128
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,240
But Bob said when I said, I don't know, will there be a place for me to sleep?

1129
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:26,880
And I said, I know where I'm sleeping.

1130
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,880
Right.

1131
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:28,880
I mean, I got a bed.

1132
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,880
He's got no words.

1133
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,160
I don't know where you're going to be.

1134
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,160
Right.

1135
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,160
He has no.

1136
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,600
They're not going to say anything if you want to stay the night and stay as long as you

1137
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,600
want to.

1138
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,520
So I'm figuring he's going to be well drugged up, which I'm hoping for.

1139
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,880
I would imagine so.

1140
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,880
Yeah.

1141
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Yeah.

1142
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,760
And so he's not, he doesn't have those logistical worries at all.

1143
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,520
Those are all coming down to me.

1144
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,640
And those are things like prior we arranged.

1145
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,820
Actually, this is before the PET scan.

1146
00:42:52,820 --> 00:42:58,160
We arranged to have eye appointments and dentist appointments to get things all covered.

1147
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Oh yeah.

1148
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,160
Okay.

1149
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,600
And in fact, Bob has an issue with one of his teeth and we want to get that done before

1150
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,600
surgery.

1151
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,600
Right.

1152
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Right.

1153
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,000
So I have no chance of any kind of infections or problems.

1154
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,360
I want to get our bills paid and our, you know, uh, why would we pay bills?

1155
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,360
We don't do that now.

1156
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,200
See, I mean, like just practical things around the house.

1157
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,920
I want to get all done because when he does come home from the hospital, we're going to

1158
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,320
be focusing on him getting better, getting better.

1159
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,320
Yeah.

1160
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,520
I mean, I'm sure I won't be able to walk around the house as freely as I want to, but it's

1161
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,520
going to be slower.

1162
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,800
He's not going to be able to help me.

1163
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,800
Not that he does anyway.

1164
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,800
Oh, what?

1165
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,800
Oh, wow.

1166
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,800
Oh, wow.

1167
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:41,800
Oh, you know I'm seasoned.

1168
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,800
That was a joke.

1169
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,800
That was a joke.

1170
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,920
When I walked in, you were on the couch, Becky, resting and he was running the sweeper.

1171
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,920
I heard it.

1172
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,920
I know.

1173
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,920
Scrubbing the pan.

1174
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,920
Yeah.

1175
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Yeah.

1176
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:53,920
No, that's, I'm sorry.

1177
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,120
But we're just trying to get a few things accomplished ahead of time.

1178
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,160
Seeing the grandkids as much as possible because afterward.

1179
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,160
You probably won't be able to lift.

1180
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,160
No, I bet not.

1181
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,160
And do any kind of.

1182
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,800
Somebody told me that I won't be able to lift anything over, I think, 10 pounds.

1183
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,800
Okay.

1184
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,360
And for an extended period of time.

1185
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:09,360
Okay.

1186
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:10,360
Yeah.

1187
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,360
So I don't know.

1188
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:12,360
So I don't know how I'm going to urinate.

1189
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,920
But I would surmise you're not going to come home in a wheelchair.

1190
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,920
Nope, he won't.

1191
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,320
You will be able, you will be ambulatory so you can walk.

1192
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Yeah, his legs aren't getting operated on.

1193
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,840
No, I mean, I would think you'd be sort of okay.

1194
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:21,840
It's going to hurt to laugh.

1195
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,840
Right?

1196
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:23,840
It hurts to laugh when you have your belly.

1197
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,840
Well, then I'll come over.

1198
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:25,840
Oh, no.

1199
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,840
You're banned from the house.

1200
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,840
No, I'm going to say.

1201
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,760
Yeah, so that'll be the tough thing is I'll not be able to really.

1202
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,760
And then the food.

1203
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,760
Laugh, cough, whatever.

1204
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,560
Because as we said, they're taking out esophagus and stomach.

1205
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,600
And I will be on a feeding tube for about seven days.

1206
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,320
To get you, yeah, because you probably.

1207
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,320
To heal that joint that they're putting in a new joint for the esophagus and stomach.

1208
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,800
I wondered this after we saw each other Saturday.

1209
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,800
I wondered if your taste will change.

1210
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,800
I know, I don't know.

1211
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,800
It has already.

1212
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,800
Mine's been poor all my life, so why.

1213
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,800
No, I mean food, tasting food.

1214
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,520
You have good taste in ladies.

1215
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,640
I do have ladies and ladies.

1216
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Yes, but no, I mean, because we went from not drinking water because he didn't like

1217
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,640
the taste to all of a sudden it didn't bother you.

1218
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,640
Right.

1219
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,640
A few other things.

1220
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,120
His taste did change after chemo and radiation.

1221
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,840
I can't think of them off the top of my head.

1222
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:17,840
Not much.

1223
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:18,840
A couple things.

1224
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,240
And who knows what it'll be like after surgery.

1225
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:22,240
I just was curious.

1226
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,240
Yeah.

1227
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:26,640
And I asked the surgeon if it would change my voice with the esophagus shortening.

1228
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,200
And he said it shouldn't affect the voice at all.

1229
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Unless he hits this one particular nerve, which I'm like, shut up.

1230
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,920
Which is going to be nowhere near.

1231
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,360
He's going to be nowhere near it, but it is a side effect they have to mention.

1232
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,360
You know, they have to tell you all the terrible things that could happen, which then I'll

1233
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,060
just ruminate on.

1234
00:45:44,060 --> 00:45:51,360
But only if he hits this one particular nerve that is not even in that tube.

1235
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,920
It's a remote possibility.

1236
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,800
He said like 3% of people.

1237
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:55,800
Highly unlikely.

1238
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Highly unlikely.

1239
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:02,040
So if it changed his voice, that would bum him out because he sings and writes and talks.

1240
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,160
We have to start the next podcast with you being a soprano.

1241
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,160
Oh!

1242
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,160
Hi!

1243
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,160
Well, it happened.

1244
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,960
That's a really good one.

1245
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,960
We have to.

1246
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,760
And our next podcast will be after the surgery.

1247
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,360
So we'll, I guess, update you.

1248
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,560
If you don't hear the next episode, you'll know things didn't go well.

1249
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:22,560
Oh, stop it!

1250
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Bob!

1251
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,560
Oh gosh, see now those are...

1252
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,560
I don't see now.

1253
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,560
Don't do that.

1254
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,560
Let me tell something fun.

1255
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,560
Go ahead.

1256
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,560
Something fun.

1257
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:34,280
So while we were kind of feeling down, which I mentioned, and it came and went in little

1258
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,280
waves.

1259
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,240
We'd feel great, then we'd feel not so great, then we'd feel great again.

1260
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:40,360
And we were feeling not so great.

1261
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,760
And I said, hey honey, I have an idea.

1262
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,240
What do you think of pretending...

1263
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:49,120
Pretending what?

1264
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,040
Pretending we're on vacation because we can't go on any of our Junebug journeys.

1265
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,240
We can't take the camper out.

1266
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,520
We can't go do stuff.

1267
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,720
So we did a one day trip.

1268
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,220
We did a one day pretend we're going on vacation.

1269
00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:01,220
So we got in the truck.

1270
00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:02,220
I didn't know this.

1271
00:47:02,220 --> 00:47:03,220
Where'd you go?

1272
00:47:03,220 --> 00:47:07,640
We drove to the beautiful little village or burg of Nashville, Indiana.

1273
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Beautiful.

1274
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,640
Beautiful.

1275
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Just there last night.

1276
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,680
We got in the truck and I said, well, I don't care where we go.

1277
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,160
And Bob said, well, he got online and kind of looked at the right distance.

1278
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,000
And he said, what if we go have lunch in Nashville?

1279
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,000
Like yes.

1280
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Hour and a half.

1281
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,440
So we drove there to have lunch.

1282
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,480
And I had no idea that everything's closed on the...

1283
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,160
It was a Monday or a Tuesday.

1284
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Everything closes on Monday in Nashville.

1285
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,640
They're all closed.

1286
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,640
All the restaurants.

1287
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,640
I had no idea.

1288
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,640
Although we did find one.

1289
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,120
There were a handful open, but the majority of them...

1290
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,120
The shops were closed.

1291
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,120
The shops and a lot were shopped.

1292
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,000
Nashville, Indiana, for those that don't know, is like a very mini Gatlinburg.

1293
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,000
It's great.

1294
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,000
It's an artist colony.

1295
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,980
There aren't rides, but artists...

1296
00:47:45,980 --> 00:47:47,480
And it's full of log cabins.

1297
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,440
Full of log cabins and...

1298
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,440
Legit log cabins.

1299
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,600
Full of FUD shops.

1300
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Yes.

1301
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Closed.

1302
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,480
Which I wonder if there's a fudge tool.

1303
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,480
No, probably not.

1304
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,480
Oh, there you go.

1305
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,480
You can put that on your stool tool.

1306
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:00,480
Where you go, what size do you want?

1307
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,480
Fudge facts is what you want.

1308
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Fudge facts.

1309
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,480
That's right.

1310
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,480
There's the alliteration.

1311
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,120
I was looking for fudge facts.

1312
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,760
But honestly, it really was a very uplifting day because we listened to our book on tape,

1313
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,600
which we do on our journeys anyhow.

1314
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,960
We had a Reacher book.

1315
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Ooh, very big fun.

1316
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Jack Reacher, yep.

1317
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Jack Reacher.

1318
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:18,960
I love a Jack Reacher.

1319
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,520
So we listened to our book on the way down.

1320
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,440
We listened to the book on the way back and it just felt like we were driving back to

1321
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,440
a campground.

1322
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,800
Did you feel like you could get rid of the...

1323
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,800
Yes.

1324
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:28,800
Oh yeah.

1325
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,800
It was just great.

1326
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,800
We just pretended.

1327
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,800
We didn't think about it at all during the day.

1328
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,440
It was like that first week leading up to treatment before we ever started treatment.

1329
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,440
Bob said, this week is my free week.

1330
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,160
I want to be the guy who doesn't have cancer.

1331
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,240
And he golfed and he golfed and he golfed.

1332
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:44,240
And that's how it felt.

1333
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:48,080
Like, oh, we had a free day to literally do whatever we wanted.

1334
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,000
We didn't have responsibilities or tests or treatment.

1335
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
It was great.

1336
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,000
It was great.

1337
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,680
So I'll encourage anybody out there who's going through this, when you do have a free

1338
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,880
day, make it something special.

1339
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:05,120
Even if you're just at home, say, okay, today we're going to watch movies all day or something

1340
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,360
that's just different out of your routine.

1341
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,720
It gets you out of your own head.

1342
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:10,720
Yeah.

1343
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:11,720
It does.

1344
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:12,720
Oh yeah.

1345
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:13,720
It was great.

1346
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,720
And even though some of the stuff was closed, we really enjoyed ourselves.

1347
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:16,320
So I'm glad we did it.

1348
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:21,480
Hey, we were going to mention your specific drugs because we had a couple of listeners

1349
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:22,480
ask about that.

1350
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Oh, yeah.

1351
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Remember that?

1352
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,480
Yes.

1353
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:26,480
So it was Taxol.

1354
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,480
Yes.

1355
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,720
These are the drugs, the chemo drugs.

1356
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:29,720
Yeah.

1357
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,480
Taxol and you have the other one.

1358
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,480
Carboplatin.

1359
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,480
Carboplatin.

1360
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,480
Yeah.

1361
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,480
Those were the two chemo drugs.

1362
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,720
That I took and then radiation is radiation.

1363
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,200
But those were the...

1364
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,200
The zapping and all that.

1365
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,400
Those were the big drugs.

1366
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,400
And then people have asked and I don't know, I guess everybody has different drugs and

1367
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,400
different timing.

1368
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,600
I'm sure there are in different doses.

1369
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,280
I'm hearing a lot about people who have their chemo once every three weeks.

1370
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,680
They have it on a day and then it knocks them out for several days and then they kind of

1371
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,520
build back up and then they go back in after three weeks.

1372
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,960
Bob's was every week.

1373
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,960
So each person...

1374
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,960
It's all different.

1375
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,960
...is different.

1376
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,960
Yeah, it is.

1377
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,960
I didn't know that.

1378
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,960
I'm sure that's all related to...

1379
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,320
Yeah, I think a lot of people think everyone does it the exact same way and they don't.

1380
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:13,320
Right?

1381
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,720
No, it's different doses, different amount of times where some people have been on chemo

1382
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,760
for six months.

1383
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,640
And it was not the case for us.

1384
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,200
We do have some really close friends.

1385
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,200
He's going through some chemo treatment and he said he and his wife have been listening

1386
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,200
to the podcast.

1387
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,480
He thought he was going to have to stop listening because we were making it sound a little too

1388
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,400
easy because he wasn't having as easy of a time.

1389
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:45,560
And he said, you're setting the bar awful high because his wife was laughing about the

1390
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,400
fact that I'm basically babysitting Bob every second of the day.

1391
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,400
And she's like, ah.

1392
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,400
Ain't going to happen on this day.

1393
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,440
And ain't going to happen at this house.

1394
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:54,440
Sorry, pal.

1395
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,000
So everybody is different and we got very fortunate.

1396
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,920
And I'm assuming by your comments earlier that between now and the surgery, you still

1397
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,200
like to hear from people.

1398
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,200
Oh, sure.

1399
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,200
Oh, please do write these notes.

1400
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,200
Yeah, it's not reminder.

1401
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,200
Thanks, Bob.

1402
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,200
It's it's.

1403
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Yes.

1404
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,200
Thanks for mentioning that.

1405
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Yes.

1406
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,200
Because Bob is loving seeing those.

1407
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,200
I do.

1408
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,520
It's really nice to read the great words from and he really does.

1409
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,960
He sees every single one.

1410
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:26,800
One guy wrote and he said this actually moved me quite a bit when he said, long time listener,

1411
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,280
very concerned about you.

1412
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,600
You'll probably never see these words.

1413
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,600
But and he went on and I thought, oh, heartbreak.

1414
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,920
I want him to know that we read that we do.

1415
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,480
We've read every email and every message that because they go to quite a bit of effort to

1416
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,000
write this note.

1417
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,160
We even had one listener write us poems.

1418
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,160
He sent them in the mail.

1419
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,280
Now, just beautiful poems.

1420
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,620
People are being so thoughtful and it's just amazing.

1421
00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:56,760
It's amazing how they've responded.

1422
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,000
Not anything we expected.

1423
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,160
No, nothing like that.

1424
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,160
I didn't.

1425
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,800
We thought 20 people, 100.

1426
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,160
I thought maybe a thousand folks might do it.

1427
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,840
And just did you have any experience?

1428
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,840
Expectation?

1429
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,400
No, I because no, I had none.

1430
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,400
I've never done anything like this.

1431
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,400
You have no idea.

1432
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,400
No, no, no.

1433
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,400
And it hit.

1434
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,800
We didn't mention it hit all of the local news.

1435
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,120
Every single news site and news channels actually featured Bob's podcast launch because they

1436
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,120
did it on the air.

1437
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,480
And we have to thank Tom.

1438
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,480
Oh, Tom.

1439
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,080
He's been on the Tom show.

1440
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,620
He was very gracious to let us let me come on the air and talk about it.

1441
00:52:31,620 --> 00:52:32,620
Tom has been brilliant.

1442
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:33,880
He's a great man.

1443
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,960
For those of you who think Tom is the reputation that they built over the 30 years on the air.

1444
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,560
Aspag, I believe what you're looking for.

1445
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:41,560
You know what?

1446
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,440
He has been loving and kind and absolutely.

1447
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,440
I know that.

1448
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,920
But it's so manifested now in the middle of what Bob's going through that he's just he's

1449
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:51,920
been brilliant.

1450
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,920
Beautiful.

1451
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,920
I thought the morning you were on the show, he was as good as I've ever heard it.

1452
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,920
Oh, yeah.

1453
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,960
Oh, it's good to be actually fun to visit the program again.

1454
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,160
I wonder if it's something listeners can go back to and hear that.

1455
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,560
I think but I don't I don't know.

1456
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,560
I don't know how to do that.

1457
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:06,560
That's high tech.

1458
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:07,560
Right.

1459
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,560
It's too well.

1460
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,360
But it was a very excellent hour of radio.

1461
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:12,360
Good day.

1462
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,560
Fun hour with the boys and Christie.

1463
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,800
Journey is almost at its end.

1464
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:17,800
Yeah.

1465
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,480
And it's been an interesting journey.

1466
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:26,520
And we'll we'll do another I guess post op episode and let you know how everything went

1467
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,320
and we'll close up this chapter of my life.

1468
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,320
May I say one last thing?

1469
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,320
Absolutely.

1470
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,800
And I do respect HIPAA.

1471
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,920
You couldn't get that photo, but Becky could do a reenactment.

1472
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Absolutely.

1473
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,600
I have my phone camera right out here.

1474
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,600
Paper blankets.

1475
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,600
Yeah.

1476
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,600
Paper blankets.

1477
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,840
And when you said today, let's pretend I thought you were going to say I'm your nurse.

1478
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,960
I mean, my mind did not.

1479
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,240
No, she did not go to national.

1480
00:53:53,240 --> 00:53:55,240
Yeah, she is my nurse.

1481
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:56,240
Oh, yeah.

1482
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,360
That really surprises me when your mind went there.

1483
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,360
I'm sorry.

1484
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,160
Thank you all for downloading.

1485
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,160
Thank you for listening.

1486
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Thank you.

1487
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,040
It has been our pleasure to share our experience.

1488
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,960
I don't know if you've enjoyed it or not, but I have.

1489
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:09,960
We have.

1490
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,280
And I just want to say I hate my partner.

1491
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,920
I'm going to kill him.

1492
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,800
Thanks for listening.

1493
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,360
You've been listening to the Bob and Cancer Show.

1494
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,400
Tune into our next episode as we continue to follow Bob's journey.

1495
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Bob Kvoin appears courtesy of Stool Tool.

1496
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,880
Dual Tool if you're in doubt when it finally comes out.

1497
00:54:31,880 --> 00:55:00,680
This is Whit Grayson speaking.