Hello and welcome to another episode of Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dean'na.
Hi!
What was that?
I was like, pre-show Dina.
I said it's frozen.
Little curve ball.
You're like doing a jig and then you're like, like, you're like, you're like, you're like,
you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,
you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like.
And then it's like, like, we need video of what happens.
I'm just sitting here very calmly and then all of a sudden you just like, you start busting
out with like all these facial expressions before you start talking.
Yes.
I think you're...
That's leftover from my theater days.
It's true.
I'm trying to get like my facial muscles to...
I mean especially a long day of me working.
I don't talk to anybody and all of a sudden it's like, oh, I gotta get ready to talk.
Will my muscles work?
Okay, let's go test. It's your warm-up for your
You gotta do flying face got lemon face and oh, yeah, it's
What? Yeah, what so lion face like you get a lion? I thought you said lime face
I was like lion lime and lemons are not the same
I am you do everything big okay, and then lemon you squeeze everything down
What if a lion gets a hold of a lemon though? Oh, that'd be fun
Be a puckered roar
Welcome to our world
I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. So it's a good week. It's a good week. We're having fun
We are having fun yeah, we're getting the funny gun for it under our feet. Yeah. Yeah, I already said that last week
I think maybe but you're getting better. I am getting better. It was a good day
Yeah, today was a good day. I
I decided to do relay races in my PE class
Circuit version. Yeah for those of y'all that have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about
It's when you learn this the things that you would do in a circuit for a workout
But then we made I put I put them in relays
Yeah, I said, okay, you're gonna you're gonna lunge
you're gonna do lunges up to this line and then you're gonna run yourself backwards and then you're gonna sprint to the next line and
Then you're gonna do ten squats and then you're gonna run yourself backwards back to the line and you're gonna do that four times
And then whoever
Whoever makes its first gets chocolate. Yes
Because you have to because candy is a nice incentive. Oh my gosh working out. Yes in class
It's so funny. I'm the PE teacher and I'm the health teacher and I give these people sugar
Yes, because why not but they're the they're the fun-size snack size
Portion control. That's right. See moderation
Yes, the Bible said everything to moderation all and everything in moderation even even outside of the Bible some of the big Greek philosophers
Mm-hmm everything in moderation everything in moderation. I mean even I'm just yeah just general because ultimately everything is from God
Yes, it is and all of those great amazing ideas
Come from heaven. Yes, okay, babe. So I
Huckered yeah in my head. There you go. You're welcome. What are we talking about today, babe?
So today I this is kind of a converse continuation of a conversation that we had the other day
Yes, and it is what are you projecting? What are you projecting? What are you projecting like a projector?
Yes, like on a screen. Yes, like yes or emotions. Yeah thoughts. Yeah bad habits
So you're getting up in people's cool, I am and I don't mean to but I do mean to
Yeah, otherwise, what would this podcast be for? That's true
Unless we rename it to the up in your kool-aid
Get all sorts of weird books
All right, so start it off babe, tell me tell me tell me some of your thoughts tell me how this may be even started
So, I mean it kind of my thoughts are you know, there's a lot of times where
You know traditionally I won't say traditionally it's
Horrible use of the word
You know, there's a lot of times, you know, if somebody will say, you know, if somebody's lying
They'll accuse others of lying. You're right. You know, if if somebody you know in a relationship if somebody's cheating
They're gonna accuse the other person of cheating, you know, so it's so it's it's it's kind of that thought behind
You know if if this is how you are if this is something that's like a deep seed in you, right?
You're gonna see that quality in other people even if it's not really there, right?
You know almost like almost like if you've been hurt and you've you've never really had somebody around you that's genuinely loved you
Yeah, you know when somebody starts showing that to you and treating you with respect with honor with kindness
You're gonna second-guess their motives. Like what are you? What are you after? Yeah, why why are you doing this to me to get?
What are you trying to get out of my why are you manipulating me? Right? It's like I'm not manipulating you
I I just genuinely honor you and I care about you. Yeah
You know, I'm here for you. Yeah, but what do you want? I don't I don't I don't want anything. It's it's cool
you know, so it's like so I think it's it's that and
You know and it can it can come out in jealousy. It can come out in rage. It can come out, you know, it's just
in all of these things and it is I I think
part of it is
You know past hurts. Yeah, you know because because past hurts are a real thing. Yes, and
You know, it's it's one of those things in the realm of relationships
it's it's really awesome if you can recognize and
for lack of a better word diagnose, yes and
Work on these things before you get into a serious relationship or a marriage
But even if if they don't get taken care of beforehand, it's it's never too late
to
Remedies remedy these issues or these concerns and and move forward and move beyond because
you know, let's say we had gotten together and
one or one of us had really bad emotional baggage and and was
Was always accusing the other one of stuff like this because of a past hurt, right?
You know
We could we could go through healing, you know
Say it's me
You know, I could go through that healing and you could help walk me through it, you know
Under you know the Holy Spirit doing it and all that right, but you be there as a support and
Then I would come out on the other side and we could continue on and be stronger. Yeah
Moving forward not having to say well, we got married when I was messed up
So we're gonna have to end our marriage because now I'm not messed up and I don't know if this is what I want to do
Wow
I don't know where they came from
Wow
That was weird
No
But seriously though. Yeah, wow
Because I mean there I'm I
Mean we've seen that we have you know where it's like people like well, I'm better now
So I don't I don't know if I can have anything in my life that reminds me of how I was before
Oh
Wow
In a weird reverse of that
Mm-hmm
You know if somebody were to come and talk to
Let's say young adults and say hey when I was young adult I went through
Whole bunch of crazy stuff in my life. You know, I did you know, I've
I was drinking all the time. I was doing drugs and and I was very loose with my morals
Yeah, with relationship to other people. Yeah, you know, but then I found Jesus and now my life is better
I'm walking the straight paths neuro path and you know how many people
young people are going to hear that story hear that testimony and
Feel that they're stuck, but they're not that far gone. Yeah, but how many of them are gonna think
Well, maybe if I go to that extreme of being bad
Then I can have this really awesome redemption story and I can be an even better Christian man the enemy
He's just shy Steve. Yeah
Wow
Wow, I
Know that one of the things that we've also said from the opposite side of things
is
when you have somebody that is trying to
Live past their past
Yeah, and then it's like you've got others that continue to project
who they used to be
on to them like
Like when we courted you were talking about you know, we'd have people ask us
You know what? Wait, what you guys aren't gonna kiss until you get married. It's like yeah. Well, I could never do that
I never do that
Just because you know, I like kissing too much and it's like well
Your weakness is showing or your lack of self-control is showing
Yeah, so so because you can't you don't think I
Can you know and so it's it's always that thing of where the enemy is constantly trying to
either in us or through someone else or
circumstance
constantly trying to pull us back
Keep us from moving forward
You know and he does it either by
Projecting our own insecurity into whatever or help put that spotlight because when you had said
What are you projecting? Yeah, you know me with my mental picture. Oh, yeah, I immediately went to an old-school
Projector. Okay, and so anybody that's ever done the shadow puppets, you know, you put your hand in front of it
You have a projector that's gonna look pretty big. That's exactly what the enemy does
He'll say oh, this is way too big for you
you know for God to do anything with or this is so
encompassing and so overwhelming that there's absolutely no way that you can get loose and free from it
or sorry to interrupt. No, please do. Or it's so big
Everybody's gonna see it. That's it. You know, that's it and it's like and so it leaves you stuck
It leaves you brought into this place
And so it's so funny because you were saying babe feel like I need to do a scripture and I was like, no, it's okay
We don't always have to do a scripture. So here's the scripture
Are you ready? Yes. Okay. So when you're talking about our
projecting
Someone's own insecurities. Yeah, the scripture that came to my mind was why are you dealing with the toothpick?
That's in your brother's eye when you have a big old two by four
in yours and the reality is if we as
Men and women of God as the children of God do not deal with our own
insecurities our brokenness our hurts the things that
The traumas the legitimate stuff. Okay the legitimate stuff
if we do not allow the Holy Spirit to come and put a spotlight on those things and
Remind us how big he is and how he can literally
overshadow and completely restore and heal
Yeah, then we are going to walk around wounded and we're going to be walking around comparing ourselves constantly
either through an insecurity or it's going to be a
Competition of I'm better than or or well my sin isn't that bad
Yeah, it's that kind of you know
Oh, you're not that good of a Christian or look. I didn't mess up that bad
But look at you and what your past was you get all this really gross
This is gross. Oh, yeah, and
But if people don't if we don't daily
Daily his word says daily
Wash your mind wash your mind with the word of God, right?
Renew your mind it says renew but I think of like literally washing the junk off
Washing the dirt off of the day. Oh, yeah
The enemy do God really say that?
Yeah, he did. How do you know because it says it right here in his word and it's in this verse with this chapter with this
Highlighted and this is what he says and this is what he meant
You know and then letting that
Guide us as opposed to our past pushing us or dragging us backwards. It's father like your
Let your word be a lamp into my feet
A light unto my path not the projection of the stuff but let your word
Be the thing that guides me and so that way I don't live in insecurity and I don't live in frailty
But I live victoriously
You know, it's true because again we
You know it when you were talking about renewing and washing it reminded me of last week's episode when we were talking about taking those spiritual baths
Yeah, you know because again we we do we need to do that
We we need to take those spiritual baths not just with prayer but also with his word, you know, and and it is it's it's so crazy because
We can we can read we can read a story out of the bible we can read a scripture and it's like
it can mean
Depending on what your mindset is and how you're looking at it. It can mean so much
Different things you can hit in so many different ways constantly evolving, you know, and and it's
It's not that his word changes. It's that
we
Change to his word. Come on, babe, you know and and sometimes and sometimes it's just
It's not even so much that his word changes or or our interpretation changes, but sometimes it's just
We need to think about
Who who is who is the audience of who would be listening to this who would who would be the you know
Especially some of the stories of jesus. It's like well, who was he talking to?
You know who was you know when paul was writing this letter?
Who was he writing it to what were what kind of junk were they going through?
You know were they being a bunch of brats and he needed to smack them over the head and so now
You're reading this you're like, oh my gosh. I thought I was a good guy
Now you're reading this you're like, oh my gosh. I thought I was a good christian, but am I am I am I scum now?
Do I even love jesus? Oh my gosh
I thought I was good. Oh
You know, but but it is it's I I do I think
It kind of reminds me of of there's there's that other verse in it, um, it talks about when I was a child
You know, I I
I you know, it was I thought as a child I I spoke as a child. I acted as a child
Yeah, but now that i'm grown I have put away childish things. Yeah
And I i've heard i've heard that
Almost interpreted a different way. It's like, you know when I was when I was a kid, you know
I could I was able to sustain myself on on milk
Oh, yeah
Yeah, but now that i'm now that i'm an adult
I need meat. Yeah, you know and yeah and the word of god is kind of like that because it's like
you know
10 years ago for me 12 years ago when I was a brand new christian
I I was getting just the layer, you know the the surface layer. Okay. What is the basics of what this means?
And now it's like
I feel like I can get deeper into it
You know recently we we the story of you know, the the prodigal son
Yeah, everybody talks about the prodigal son and you know, it's like, you know
12 years ago. I was like, oh somebody's coming back to god. That's an awesome story
I love it because yes, i'm coming back to god
but then
couple weeks ago, it was like
well, no think about it from the father or think about it from the older son and that line of
Everything i've had has always been yours. Yeah, you know and all of a sudden it's like
God is literally telling us. Yeah that we are his children and everything that he has is
Ours. Yeah without asking without begging without pleading. Yeah, you know
And it's just we forget that yeah, you know, we forget that
That it's ours. We forget that we have that power. Yeah, we forget that we have
That that we can take that dominion over over the things of this earth
You know that that we can take dominion over our own emotions and
We can take dominion over our past. Yes, you know regardless of what was spoken over us
Yes, as as children as young adults even as as older adults. Yes, we can take dominion over that and we can say
No
Right, it stops now. That's right. Whether we did it to ourselves whether somebody else did it to us, right?
It stops now. I
By the power of god. Yeah, the work of the holy spirit. I can change my mind
I can change my mindset
Now that's right, and I can be new. That's right, and I can now step out
Not thinking that i'm scum not thinking that i'm damaged not thinking that i'm worthless
Right knowing that i'm a child of god knowing that I have an inheritance
In this world and in the next that's right. That's right. And I can I
That's ours. Yeah, that's ours. Yeah, we don't even have to try
That's really that simple. That's right
That's right
And that's what we should be projecting as the children
That's because when you're projecting something that means that there's something that you feel like there's missing
Yeah
If you're projecting something you're trying to get the light off of you and you're putting it onto something else, right?
Okay, just that's exactly what it is. It's you're literally it's like boop. I don't want anybody to look at me
Don't look behind the camera. I want everybody to look in front of the camera. See what's on the screen
Yeah, and it's what am I what am I trying to portray where the whole time the holy spirit's like listen
Listen
What I want you to portray is I want you to portray my goodness
I want you to portray it portray the fruit of my spirit
I want you to start portraying the faith and and the
the power and the
That's inside
That just let it flow out of you
That you know who you are because when we know who we are in christ
When we know what it is that we have been created for that we've literally been set apart
Then we start talking differently. We start thinking differently. We start responding to people differently and when that happens
They start coming alive in places that it's almost like putting that spotlight on that place
That's been in the dark for so long man. I'm sorry
Let me remind you who god has created you to be let me remind you that you're created in the image
Literally the image of god
wonderfully fearfully
spectacularly
Made like there's nobody else like you. Yeah my health class. I'm looking at my kids going
Do you guys realize that four trillion people out of four trillion people four trillion guys with the t?
T four trillion people not one of them have the same exact dna or fingerprint
Four trillion people that's how incredibly unique and amazing our god is that's how?
Intricately that each one of us are individually made and when we start projecting that kind of thing
into the atmosphere
into the airwaves of into that the highways and the byways and
And going into the principalities and the powers of the air and reminding them who our god is
What our authority is and start pulling those things down over people around us
Then we start seeing freedom come we start seeing the goodness of god come we start seeing lives restored marriages restored
people's hearts
Wanting to hope again
Yeah
Wanting to hope again not being scared to believe in the future and in good again because it's like when I start talking about
Like just the quality of life. I told you today with my yeah. Here's my assignment my assignment guys
This is what we're talking about today
We're going to talk about the quality of life and how you can achieve these things and how kind how life can be better
Just by making some simple changes in your life. Yeah, this is what i'm talking about in my health class
And I could babe I could feel
Some of the kids coming back to me almost like nobody said it but you could feel this hopelessness. Yeah. Oh, yeah of
That might work for them, but that's not going to work for me, right?
well, I mean
I could maybe change a little bit mrs wants, but
That's really not going to make that big of a deal. Yeah, and I want to go
I'll confirm my how do you say it? Contrary. I'll confirm. I'm fair, right?
What does that mean?
Uh, I mean oh contrary is I mean oh to the contrary. Okay, and mon frère is my friend see
So the contrary my friend, right? Yes, this is
This is what you can do. Yeah, it doesn't have to take like this amount
You don't have to completely like rearrange and completely rework. Let the holy spirit do that
Yeah, but even if we start with one thing
Yeah, we start start with a plank in our eye or the toothpick or whatever it is that we're dealing with
Whatever it is that we feel like we're being insecure about or that the comparison
Killers, you know that get out there and all of a sudden we're comparing ourselves with one of our best buddies. Yeah
Why? Yeah, don't do that. No, you're created in the image of god. You're man. Don't do that. You are you I am me
Let's be who we are and let's expand the kingdom to get together. Yeah, you know, and so it's like
Stop
projecting
The stuff yeah and start remembering who god is let him be the projector
Let him
Illuminate what's inside of you and the word of god. What does he say? Yeah, what does his word say?
You know and then start speaking that over yourself. I have the mind of christ
I power love sound mind. This is my these are my portions
Yeah, I have wisdom. He says if I ask for wisdom, he's going to give it to me father
I'm asking that you give me wisdom. I am not stupid
I I I am more than a conqueror. I can do all things through you
Yeah, because you have given me the strength
Yeah, so dive into those things allow those things to be the projectors in your day. Yeah
I love it
I mean, I I think a lot of what I was thinking of
You know, i'm listening to you and i'm trying to listen to me
Not very good at listening to me
I listen to you. I appreciate that as long as one of us listen
But it's like I kept thinking it's like
You know
Because we are we're talking about what are we projecting and and and all this and I kept thinking about
You know, how much is there like on social media?
Like what are we I mean, this could be like a totally other
That's a whole other podcast
I mean, I don't want to get down a rabbit hole
But yeah, as a quick drop this in people's lap
But I mean again, you know social media. What are people projecting on social media?
And what are you comparing yourself to?
By looking at social media
It's a highlight highlight reels people
Stop doing it
Or it's just fake
Fake yeah
Yeah
Yeah, too big of a rabbit hole
It really is
So yeah compare yourself to the word of god
You want to compare yourself to something compare yourself to the word of god
Yeah, I'm a wretched and a horrible person. Okay, but now that you've dealt with some of this stuff
Now what is god saying?
Yeah
What does god say because he always thinks better of us than what we actually are. That's true
He will always always believe the best hope the best
Yeah, it's just who he is. He's a good father and he wants nothing but the best for us
And it really is that simple. It really is that simple
That simple
All right guys have the best week enjoy the journey