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Hello, and welcome back to another episode of

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Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dina. Hey,

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babe. Hey, babe. How's it going? It's good. I

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was in the middle of yawning. You were fine,

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and then I hit record. Yeah. And then I started

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dancing, and you were like, oh, it's a good time

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for a yawn. Yes. I was yawning, and I was trying

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not to burp at the same time. Oh, that's awesome.

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It was like you open your mouth. ah yeah and

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then like a burp is about to come out and i'm

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like no we can't be burping like hey it's real

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it's real life this marriage this is what happens

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yeah it's what happens it is what happens how

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are you doing i'm good how are you good i am

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watching you like You are not down here as much.

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I am not. And so it's like you're almost re...

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Yes. Yes. I'm re -situating my nest. It's like

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getting yourself re -familiar. Re -familiar?

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Yeah. Is that a word? I mean, familiarize yourself

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again, re -familiarize yourself. Okay, cool.

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Re -familiarize, yes. So it's like watching you

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do all these things and then your segregated

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gummies that you literally break them up in different

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flavors and colors. I do. You're so funny. I

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do that with my candies. You do that with your

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candies. You're so funny. It's not good to do

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that in real life. But you can do that with your

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candies. And you and our daughter both do this.

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You guys are funny. Because for the most part,

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different candy colors taste different, and you

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don't want to mix your flavors. See, I fly by

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the seat of my pants. I just pop it in my mouth,

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and sometimes it's two or three at a time, and

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then I invent my own flavor. Listen, it's like

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a fruit bowl. Well, it's like, I don't know what

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you called them when you were growing up, but

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it was like when I was growing up, when you'd

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go to the soda fountain and you would get a little

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bit of every flavor. Oh, suicides. Yeah. Okay.

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That's what I called them, too. Is that what

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you guys called them? If that triggered anybody,

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we apologize. The drinks, that's what you do.

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You just do, do, do, do, do. I think the reason

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why they call it, because it's almost like playing

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roulette with your taste buds. Yes. Because it's

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like, what are you doing? At any given time,

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this could go really, really south really fast.

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See, and all of a sudden, I remembered a story

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from college that's... Not anything like what

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we want to talk about. Oh, okay. I mean, it was

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sort of along those lines. Yeah. Apparently,

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I never went to one, but I heard stories of what

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they called trash can parties. Oh, yes. My brothers

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have told me this. Okay. Where you, to get into

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the party, you bring a bottle, and then on your

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way in the door, you dump the bottle in the can.

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And then throughout the night, everybody just...

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shares this massive mixed drink. So in that space,

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I've never been to one, never done one. Again,

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I was always the designated driver in my world.

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And so it's like, when I started coming to church

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and during like hallelujah nights, Halloweens,

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things like that, they would do the chili dumps.

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And in my brain, My renewed, reformed, restored

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back to Jesus brain, I would every time go, this

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is like one of those trash can dumps. And if

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you get somebody that does not know what they're

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doing and they get something and it's not good,

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it is going to absolutely. Yeah. It's going to

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do very bad things. So one of the guys that lived

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in my house, he was notorious. He loved cinnamon.

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Oh, no. So he would bring like a bottle of like

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cinnamon schnapps or whatever. Oh, no. What?

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And they said for the entire night, all you could

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taste was that cinnamon. Yeah. Well, I mean,

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if anybody was making out and they found forever

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love, you know, they had fresh breath. Yeah.

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That's disgusting. Yeah. Ew, that's disgusting.

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Yeah. Yuck. No. Yeah. No, I'm good. I'm good.

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So, yeah. Candies are segregated for that reason.

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I was like, what do you think got us on that

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subject? Candies. Candies. That was it. Because

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I do it with gummy bears. I do it with Skittles.

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You do it with your M &M's. M &M's not so much.

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See, and M &M's don't taste different, but it's

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because of the colors. I do them with Smarties.

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Yes. Yep. Because Smarties don't have a different

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flavor. I think they do. I think they do. We

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are going to lovingly agree to disagree. Dear

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world, this is real marriage. It is. It's like

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there have been times where Gabriel's looked

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at us and like, really? Is this what married

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couples talk about? Yes, this is what married

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couples talk about. This is exactly what they

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talk about. We talk about absolutely nothing

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and everything all at one time. And the deep,

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deep, deep secrets of life and the most shallow

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things on the planet. And we'll go from these

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kind of conversations right into like a big budget

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question of, you know, hey, here's a big purchase

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coming up and how do we want to do this? And

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then all of a sudden we're redecorating. The

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landscaping. Yes. For a project that won't happen

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for at least five to 10 years. Like that part,

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right? Like that part and things of that nature.

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And it is, it's, it's that whole, I don't know,

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maybe that's a whole topic in itself because

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it's like when you, because what was it last

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week? No. Two podcasts ago, where I'm looking

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at your notes, where it says know your person,

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right? How do you get to know your person except

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that you ask these silly, silly, literally mundane

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questions, and then you go into the deep recesses

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of their brain, and it's like it already helps.

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In my brain, it's like it already shows me kind

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of a map. to how to communicate with you better

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based off of maybe some of the ways that you

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think some of your preferences the way that you

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process stuff when I know where you are and kind

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of like even knowing your mood you know or hey

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not going to talk to you probably for a good

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solid five ten minutes when you walk in the door

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give you a chance to just breathe but like not

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not talk to you just not talk to you anything

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incredibly important right unless there's an

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emergency right but even then it's like okay

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are you do do i have your attention are you okay

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you know kind of thing and i think um when you

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have just the silly like the silly conversations

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or those connections like yeah because what was

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it was it today This morning? Last night. When

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our beautiful girl comes home. It was last night

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when she came home. She went out to dinner with

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some friends. But it was like, I don't know if

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we talked about it after she left last night

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or when we woke up this morning. That's what

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I'm trying to say. Like, it's that simple. It's

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like, I get to spend the rest of my life. hanging

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out with my best friend and it's like yes we

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are romantically into each other like and yes

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we we think the other person is super cute and

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super pretty right and and like you make my heart

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pound and all of the fun things that go with

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it but then like you can make me laugh probably

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faster than anybody you could also I want to

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say like you could probably make me madder faster

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than anybody, but you don't. But because you

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know my buttons, because you know certain things

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about me, you do your best to be very conscious

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and aware of those things and try not to get

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me upset. So it's like I know how to get you

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upset, but instead of... getting you upset, I

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push the button right next to it to get you ramped

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up. To get me ramped up. Because you're really

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good at it. I need you to get fiery for this

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subject. Here we go. Let's go. It is true. It

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is true. I had to hold my hands together telling

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all... Hey, we've got videos. We've got cameras

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in the... Cameras, not videos. Yeah, we've got

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cameras in the room. But they're not hooked up

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yet. But... They are. We just need to finish.

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I need to finalize some testing and such. There

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we go. The same as the camera in the other room

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for a certain individual that wants to start

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a YouTube channel. How cool is that? That is

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cool. It's so cool. I'm slightly frustrated and

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slightly excited because of Tyler. Putting that.

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And I will call him out. I will call him out.

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Yes. We just have Tyler over here and then he'd

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be like, I'll ramp it up again and getting them

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all stoked. I mean, I am excited. He's excited.

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He just knows that sometimes things work at a

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different schedule. And that's good. I appreciate

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he understands that. That's good for him to know

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these things too. But anyway, but yes, you are

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able to push that button. And that's why I was

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like, my hands literally folded because I was

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like, yes, you are very good at that. Very good

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at. ramping me up but ramping me up for a good

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cause as opposed to um trying to anger me you're

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trying to help me process and walk through it

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and get to the other side yeah so but yeah it's

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good you are looking around now and just all

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you're i'm sorry i got you distracted you did

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no you you did but didn't i apologize um yeah

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no it is it's it's weird it's And it's like I'm

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going to bounce back to that for a second. Yeah.

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I mean, for what was it? Almost four years. I

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was in this room for almost every day. Yeah.

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You know. Yeah. At minimum, five days a week,

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I was in this room for eight to ten hours a day.

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Yes. And all of a sudden, it's like. You've been

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called back to work on a full -time basis into

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the office. Back into the office. Yeah. And so

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now it is. It's like. I maybe spend an hour or

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two in here a week. And this is kind of, this

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is your happy place. This is my happy place.

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And I do believe that this has been part of your,

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I'm a little frustrated and this is just what

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is going on with me. And I'm trying to figure

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out the next step in life. And it's like, the

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answer is in here. The answer is in here. It's

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in here. It's good. The answer is in my cave.

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And it's a beautiful cave. It is a beautiful

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cave. And people are about to see your beautiful

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cave. Yes, they will. It's going to be so good.

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Yes. Okay, babe. So we have... We have a couple

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of things on the table. We have a mixed concoction.

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Yeah. To go back to our trash can. That's funny.

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It's like we didn't even try to tie that in.

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Nope. Wow. Nope. So we have a mixed concoction

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of a couple of different... Questions that have

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been placed on the table. Oh, I didn't. Slash

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scenario. Oh, I did not put my phone on silent.

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Slash scenarios, slash topics of conversations

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that we have kind of fleshed out, but not. And

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so it's. So if it sounds like we're kind of jumping,

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we're going to do our best to kind of knock out

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one topic at a time. But there might be about

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two or three different things that we want to

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kind of just bring to the table today. Have our

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listeners chew on some stuff. Yeah. And then

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leave them for really good stuff for next time.

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Yeah. In the meantime, hey, we possibly have

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a new listener. Yes, we do. I'm excited. I'm

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excited, too. Do you want to say hi to our listener

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in case they're listening? I'm not going to call

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out name. Yeah. But I will because, I mean, people

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that pay attention. So we got an opportunity

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to spend about five, six hours with a gentleman

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recently because I got a new tattoo. New tattoo

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slash cover up. Yeah. Pretty stoked about it.

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Pretty excited. It looks amazing. It's legit.

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For those of you that follow us on social media,

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you've seen, you've sort of seen, I mean, I love

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your description of that. Do it justice. So my

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artist, he's a believer. Yeah. And so we got

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to share with him. He got to share with us. I

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mean, the beauty of having undivided attention

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for, you know. five hours or so. Truly. Um, it

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was really great. Um, so yeah, so we, we shot

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him our information and so he like right on the

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spot, he's like, all right, I'm going to go ahead

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and follow you guys. Yeah. And we, and I, um,

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I brought our book, uh, taking your vitamins.

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And then I also brought our devotional, uh, enjoying

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the journey and handed them to him. And he's

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like, these are for me to keep. He was so. Yeah,

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he was really cool. Humble and just absolutely

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precious. And this guy knows the word. Yeah,

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he does. I think the thing that was so beautiful

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about him is you gave him a description. Number

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one, you took the pictures of your tattoo. This

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tattoo was a gift from another amazing friend

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of ours. She had seen some things. She was obeying

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God in this journey and what she saw. And then

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she's like, I need you to go find out roughly

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how much this is going to cost you. And then

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I need you to let me know and please do not argue.

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And so like within 10 minutes after we gave her

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the initial, because this is going to be about

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three different sessions, I think is what we

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determined. But three different sessions. And

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she covered the first session. I'm going to say

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like the first session and a half and, um, which

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that in itself was a treasure. But, and so we

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even got a chance to tell this guy the story

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about like all of the things because he's six

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years into his relationship with God and his

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walk with Jesus. And, and we've just got to let

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people know that he is very much real. Like,

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like, He is not a figment of your imagination.

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He's not just a character in a book. He's not

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like this religious kind of situation. Like he

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is a real person, a real deity. And he uses his

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people, if we listen, to do the things that need

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to happen so other people can come to know him

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too. And it was just... he has a similar kind

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of a similar testimony like you do, just like

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there was a friend that just loved him enough

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to just kind of share Jesus. And then he went

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to shut his friend up because he was like, whatever,

00:16:10.409 --> 00:16:13.549
I don't really believe in all of this. And then

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he encountered the one true living God and has

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never been the same. And so it was just, he's

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refreshing. But I say all that to say that you

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have some, you had some tattoos on your arm from

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your previous world, from paganism and also from

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your college years, and things that you basically

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gave your allegiance to unknowingly of what you

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were attaching to. And then here comes God and

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says, hey, let's go ahead and cut some ties here

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and do all of the things. And then you're like,

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I want this covered. This is roughly what I'm

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thinking. Then he comes up. And I shot him a

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couple of ideas that I had seen online. Like,

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hey, here's some ideas that I've seen in pictures.

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Yeah. Something like this. And he came up with

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the most extraordinary picture, a tattoo. And

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you didn't even, like you were like, yeah. And

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he's like, you want to change anything? No. Nope.

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Perfect. Absolutely perfect. And it came out

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just. Yeah. Like I, I walked away just long enough

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to go get Sebastian and come back and I didn't

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get it. I was half, I saw half of your tattoo.

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Yeah. And by the time that we came back to come

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pick you up, it's like, it's finished. Not completely,

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but it's almost 95 % finished. It's not like

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finished. I, and I walked in, you saw my face

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and I just, my jaw dropped. It was, it was. It

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was not just stunning. It was powerful. It was

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anointed. You could feel the presence of God.

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It was neat. I love what Gabri said when she

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first saw it in person. She's like, I feel like

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the lion's about to jump off your skin. Yes.

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Yeah. Yes. And again, the fact that it's not

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done yet. It's not even finished completely.

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So for those that haven't seen it on social media

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yet, it looks kind of almost like a medieval

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armor. So it's armor of God. Yeah. And it's going

00:18:19.450 --> 00:18:21.990
from, it's on my left upper arm. It's basically

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going from my elbow area all the way up to the

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top of my shoulder. And then eventually it's

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going to cover the left half of my chest. Yeah.

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Because you have another tattoo that needs to

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be covered. Yeah. And it's like, and this guy

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is stoked. Yeah, he is. And he's phenomenal.

00:18:40.670 --> 00:18:43.990
He's absolutely phenomenal. So, hey, thanks again

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for doing this for us. Welcome to our podcast.

00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:55.539
Okay, babe. Tell me what topic do you want to

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dive into first? You know, I was going to talk

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about the one, and then I think it was. I think

00:19:01.299 --> 00:19:05.019
you're right. I think we talked about it in our

00:19:05.019 --> 00:19:07.440
last episode. Okay. And for those of you thinking,

00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:12.619
like, why are you talking cryptic? It was a conversation

00:19:12.619 --> 00:19:17.230
that we had had about how do we... ask your spouse

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to do something, you know, like, Hey, I've got

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a task that I want, you know, Hey babe, can you

00:19:22.809 --> 00:19:24.869
take care of this for me? Right. You know, it's

00:19:24.869 --> 00:19:27.970
like, how do you go about asking? And for the

00:19:27.970 --> 00:19:30.170
most part, it seems pretty simple if you ask

00:19:30.170 --> 00:19:33.869
somebody, but again, it's, you know, what, what

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tone are you using? What words are you using?

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Do you have their full attention? Do you have

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their full attention? You know, because. I've

00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.119
heard stories where that happens and we've experienced

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that. I mean, we've done that. Yeah. It's like,

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I'm sorry, babe. Were you talking to me? Yeah.

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Yeah. Or it's like, I'm going to go ahead. Oh,

00:19:52.660 --> 00:19:54.819
I think we're done talking. So I'm going to leave

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the room and halfway across the house. What?

00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:06.900
Yeah. What? Yeah, sorry. It's true. Yeah, it

00:20:06.900 --> 00:20:08.819
is true. It's true. And, you know, there are

00:20:08.819 --> 00:20:13.759
times where. I don't have the best hearing. Correct.

00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:16.619
You know, so sometimes that can get in the way.

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Yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. And that's, so that

00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:25.059
was one of the things we were going to talk about,

00:20:25.099 --> 00:20:27.339
but it's like, nope, I think we did. I think

00:20:27.339 --> 00:20:30.220
we talked about it. Yeah. Yeah. If we didn't

00:20:30.220 --> 00:20:32.319
really fully flesh it out, well, we just kind

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of did in a couple minutes. Yeah. I mean, make

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sure you have your spouse's attention. Make sure

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that you are making your request very evident.

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Don't bark in order. Ask respectfully, politely.

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I mean, I would say just common courtesy goes

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a massive long way. I also think an attitude

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of gratitude and appreciation. Because sometimes

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when we do ask and request something of somebody,

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depending on what their bandwidth is in that

00:21:02.690 --> 00:21:07.309
moment, they may feel like, okay, wait, I'm not

00:21:07.309 --> 00:21:11.150
your slave or I'm not your person. I'm just here

00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:15.039
to just... I'm your money roll, right? All the

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things, just like sugar daddy. I mean, you are

00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:21.539
my sugar and you are not my daddy. Not my daddy.

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But it's like, but it's those spaces and places,

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right, that I think sometimes the reason why

00:21:30.920 --> 00:21:36.279
people might not, obviously the not being able

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to hear things, but I think sometimes And when

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we don't get a response out of a person, you

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might want to double check on their headspace.

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Where are they? Are they okay? Do they have the

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energy? Do they have the bandwidth for that?

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Do they feel like they're being appreciated or

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do they feel like they're being kind of used

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and abused a little bit? Like, hey, babe. I'm

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a live -in handyman. Live -in handyman. Or you

00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:05.059
could come home and you'd be like. okay, that

00:22:05.059 --> 00:22:06.880
laundry basket has been full this whole time

00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.779
now. Like, why haven't you done anything to it?

00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.059
You're, you're a stay at home wife and mom. Like,

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what else do you have to do? And it's like, like

00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.559
actually could do a lot, but like, you know what

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I mean? Like, so I think when we make a point

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of saying. how's your day? Yeah. As opposed to

00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:28.460
what'd you do today? Yeah. You know, like, I

00:22:28.460 --> 00:22:30.259
mean, that kind of rolls off my tongue sometimes

00:22:30.259 --> 00:22:34.019
like, Hey, how was your day, babe? Or, or it's

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the opposite. And I'll take you by the hand and

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I'll say, look what I did today. Do you want

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to see all the chores that I got and all this

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stuff that I did? And it, and it's, it's a real

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thing. And I, I think, I think having those kinds

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of conversations actually helps even more so

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because. it's not necessarily that you don't

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want to do something for your loved one. I think

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when we get to that space where we start murmuring

00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.880
and we start kind of like under our breath or,

00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:07.680
or maybe we just don't move as fast because like,

00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:10.019
whatever, I'll just get to it when I get to it.

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Yeah. You might want to check yourself because

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that, that that's that there's a deeper something

00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:20.030
there. And I think, I think also it's like, If

00:23:20.030 --> 00:23:22.309
you have something in your mind, if you want

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to accomplish something, and it's like, in my

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mind, this is how it needs to get done. And then

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it's like, well, I asked you to do this for me,

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and you didn't do it the way I wanted it to.

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It's like, well, you didn't tell me how you wanted

00:23:34.650 --> 00:23:37.670
it to be done. It'd be like if you handed me

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a stack of pictures and said, babe, hang these.

00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:43.470
Oh, gosh, no. You saw the fear across my face.

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No, no, no. I will not be doing that. In your

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own office, baby, you do whatever you want to.

00:23:53.339 --> 00:23:57.259
Oh, shoot. Oh, that was funny to watch her face

00:23:57.259 --> 00:24:02.420
morph like that. It did. Oh, hi. I was just kidding.

00:24:05.710 --> 00:24:09.690
That was sheer terror. But it's like, I heard

00:24:09.690 --> 00:24:11.569
a story about that. I heard a story about that

00:24:11.569 --> 00:24:13.369
from somebody that they were like, yeah, you

00:24:13.369 --> 00:24:16.170
know, I asked them to hang pictures for me while

00:24:16.170 --> 00:24:18.910
I was at work. Yes. And I came back and yes,

00:24:18.930 --> 00:24:20.490
they were hung, but not the way I wanted it.

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And see, and then that frustrates the person.

00:24:22.750 --> 00:24:25.970
Were you clear? And that's how I asked. I was

00:24:25.970 --> 00:24:27.430
like, did you tell them how you wanted to be

00:24:27.430 --> 00:24:31.250
hung? Yes. No. See, it's got to be a twofold

00:24:31.250 --> 00:24:33.509
thing. And then when you do that to your person

00:24:33.509 --> 00:24:37.369
enough times. It's going to be like, well, even

00:24:37.369 --> 00:24:41.369
if you tell them how to do it, you're going to

00:24:41.369 --> 00:24:43.869
paralyze them because all of a sudden they're

00:24:43.869 --> 00:24:45.990
going to be like, well, even if I did do it,

00:24:46.049 --> 00:24:48.329
it's not going to be up to your standard. It's

00:24:48.329 --> 00:24:51.630
not going to be right. And that's frustrating.

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:55.390
That's frustrating. I mean, we can do that even

00:24:55.390 --> 00:24:57.509
to our children, things of that nature. It's

00:24:57.509 --> 00:25:00.410
like, that's frustrating. So we've got to be

00:25:00.410 --> 00:25:07.150
clear. Hey, babe. Could you help me? And see,

00:25:07.170 --> 00:25:09.069
and I was about to say that. In this, you know.

00:25:09.069 --> 00:25:10.769
Let's do this together. Can we do this together?

00:25:10.869 --> 00:25:14.430
I would love, which genuinely, I would love your

00:25:14.430 --> 00:25:17.470
input. I love your input. I also know that I

00:25:17.470 --> 00:25:21.670
can exasperate you by standing there and like

00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:23.690
tweaking and then tweaking again and tweaking

00:25:23.690 --> 00:25:26.509
again. And it's almost like you going, dear God,

00:25:26.650 --> 00:25:30.819
just put a nail in the wall. I've, I've seen

00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:32.519
this one too. I'll, I'll kind of call you out.

00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.259
I mean, it's kind of calling us out, but you

00:25:34.259 --> 00:25:35.960
know, it's like when we're rearranging furniture

00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:40.779
and it's like, you are really good at visualizing

00:25:40.779 --> 00:25:44.440
where furniture is in a room and you can spatial

00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:47.319
awareness. Yeah. And it's like, we'll get halfway

00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.039
moving a couch. And then all of a sudden you

00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:51.839
go through the 15 ,000 permutations. And I'm

00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:54.920
like, just put it somewhere, babe. I don't care

00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:56.460
where it is. Just put it somewhere. Not in the

00:25:56.460 --> 00:25:58.000
middle of a walkway, but just put it somewhere.

00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:00.740
Yes. You want it against the wall? You want it

00:26:00.740 --> 00:26:02.839
three feet away from the wall. I don't care.

00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:04.579
Just put it somewhere. Yes. As long as we can

00:26:04.579 --> 00:26:08.700
sit in it and use it. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's true.

00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:11.700
It's true. It is true. But it's being patient

00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:16.180
with your person. It's giving them a license

00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:19.779
to come in and just do and be. But at the same

00:26:19.779 --> 00:26:22.019
time, what? Why are you looking at me crazy?

00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:24.480
No, because all of a sudden I started like, ooh,

00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.380
what if we change the furniture upstairs? I'm

00:26:26.380 --> 00:26:30.759
like, stop it. Baby, do you realize how long

00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:34.180
it took us to figure out where to put that furniture?

00:26:35.900 --> 00:26:37.859
See, in my mind, I was like, well, we just showed

00:26:37.859 --> 00:26:42.380
up and we just put it there. Tell them, Sparks.

00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.359
That was not true. It took us probably a good

00:26:45.359 --> 00:26:48.819
three or four moves of things. It did. It took

00:26:48.819 --> 00:26:50.700
us a second. Okay. But it's fine. See, and I

00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:52.140
don't remember. I don't remember any of that.

00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:54.700
Yeah. In my mind, when we moved into this house,

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:56.039
that's where the furniture went. And I'm like,

00:26:56.099 --> 00:27:00.980
okay. Yeah. No. It's because I'm standing there

00:27:00.980 --> 00:27:03.740
staring holes into different spaces and places

00:27:03.740 --> 00:27:05.500
going, will that fit? Will that? Does that look

00:27:05.500 --> 00:27:07.839
good? Okay, I'm going to walk away. Just let

00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:09.460
me know when you want to move something. That's

00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:13.059
it. That's it. The lamps start moving. Yes. Yes.

00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:15.859
You don't realize how strong your wife is until

00:27:15.859 --> 00:27:18.119
she wants to move furniture. When you're not

00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.940
around. You know what I'm saying? How did you?

00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.940
Our daughter does that. It's like I walk into

00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:28.799
her room going, how did you do this? So anyway.

00:27:28.920 --> 00:27:31.299
Okay. So apparently we got to flesh out a little

00:27:31.299 --> 00:27:33.299
bit more. That's good. That's good. That's good.

00:27:33.339 --> 00:27:36.880
Okay. What's the other thing? Topic number two.

00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.279
Topic. What? What is up with you? Sparks is being

00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.559
very vocal. She wants to be on the podcast. Yep.

00:27:45.779 --> 00:27:48.579
Okay. Everybody heard you. Good girl. He's a

00:27:48.579 --> 00:27:54.339
good girl. Yeah, mama's a good girl. Okay. Number

00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:58.200
two. Did you want to do what I posted on? Our

00:27:58.200 --> 00:27:59.680
socials. Yeah, we'll talk about that for a bit.

00:27:59.819 --> 00:28:03.660
Okay, cool. Again, for those that follow social

00:28:03.660 --> 00:28:06.940
media. Yeah. For those that don't, this is like

00:28:06.940 --> 00:28:09.200
the second time I've said for those that don't

00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:10.359
follow on social media. So you might want to.

00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:12.579
So you might want to follow us on social media.

00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:15.500
So we have changed our socials on Instagram.

00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:20.740
We are now firm footing. Yes. As opposed to upfront

00:28:20.740 --> 00:28:24.279
and undivided. Yes. And so I know that that's

00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.380
going to be maybe a little bit of not so much

00:28:27.380 --> 00:28:29.880
a hiccup, but maybe just a lot to. kind of take

00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.059
in a little bit but firm footing uh dot coach

00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:37.140
is uh it that is our coaching site did you want

00:28:37.140 --> 00:28:39.839
me to turn it back to up front and no no no because

00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:42.599
just like in my mind i'm like but does that actually

00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:45.359
change like the account name or the display name

00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.359
it does okay yeah so if they're trying to look

00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:51.759
for us it would be under firm footing dot com

00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:56.420
or dot coach um unfortunately i am the only name

00:28:56.420 --> 00:28:58.420
under it because instagram is funny and they're

00:28:58.420 --> 00:29:01.700
like They don't, unless we're a professional

00:29:01.700 --> 00:29:03.819
kind of situation. I don't know how all that

00:29:03.819 --> 00:29:06.859
works. I'm still learning. We'll check it out.

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.099
Yeah. I'm still learning social media, guys,

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:11.180
so just bear with us. We are not experts. We

00:29:11.180 --> 00:29:14.079
are not experts in the least. Nope. But we're

00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:18.259
trying. And then if you go to our Facebook, Luke's

00:29:18.259 --> 00:29:21.180
not on Facebook. Nope. He is not on Facebook

00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:24.680
at all. But I am, and it is Dina Wants. It's

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.460
just simple. Just Dina Wants is where you'll

00:29:26.460 --> 00:29:30.740
find us. And any and all of the things that are

00:29:30.740 --> 00:29:34.440
on our Instagram account, nine out of ten times

00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.140
are on our Facebook, are on my Facebook. And

00:29:38.140 --> 00:29:42.960
so I think the reason why we just don't do social

00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.140
media quite as frequently, number one, it's just

00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:51.690
not. Not something that we're privy to. We're

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:54.470
not as versed in it. I was going to say, privy

00:29:54.470 --> 00:29:56.609
is not. Yeah, not as versed. It's not the right

00:29:56.609 --> 00:30:01.680
word, I know. It's fine. Thanks, Google. We're

00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.079
not as versed in it. And we keep trying to get

00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:08.359
our daughter to do our accounts. But she's got

00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:12.480
this job. And she's doing classes now in school.

00:30:12.700 --> 00:30:15.579
I think at the end of the day, we just need to

00:30:15.579 --> 00:30:18.359
post more. Even if it's just randomness. I think

00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.839
so. Not randomness. I mean, meaningful stuff.

00:30:21.059 --> 00:30:25.299
But just really be more intentional. Yeah, I

00:30:25.299 --> 00:30:27.259
like that word. That's a good word. That's a

00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:29.599
good word. Okay, so I just got convicted. It's

00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:32.240
fine. It's good. All right. So look for us. That's

00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:37.779
where we are. So anyway, on our socials, I posted

00:30:37.779 --> 00:30:43.539
a conversation that Luke and I had while we were,

00:30:43.660 --> 00:30:46.339
I was taking care of a client and you were at

00:30:46.339 --> 00:30:50.220
work. And this thought came across my mind. And

00:30:50.220 --> 00:30:54.150
so I text it to you and it made. It may sound

00:30:54.150 --> 00:30:56.190
a little choppy. I'm going to try to just give

00:30:56.190 --> 00:30:58.490
you guys the highlights of it. But basically,

00:30:58.630 --> 00:31:03.970
I was in the middle of cleaning our little guys

00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:06.269
there. So like we're listening to worship music.

00:31:07.009 --> 00:31:10.869
And I don't remember what the song was, but it

00:31:10.869 --> 00:31:14.049
triggered a conversation that you and I had had

00:31:14.049 --> 00:31:17.670
years upon years ago. And I thought it was interesting

00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:20.049
that the thought came back to my mind again.

00:31:20.890 --> 00:31:24.170
And I was like, do you think that sometimes the

00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:26.589
reason for men to not be able to capture the

00:31:26.589 --> 00:31:30.910
fullness of God's love, and it's not God's part,

00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:33.910
but I guess what I should have said is capture

00:31:33.910 --> 00:31:37.190
the fullness of God, like just that relationship

00:31:37.190 --> 00:31:41.809
with God, is because they are being called the

00:31:41.809 --> 00:31:48.390
bride of Christ. And that isn't something quite

00:31:48.390 --> 00:31:52.490
that you guys like. compute and it's like it

00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:56.069
it like being a bride yeah as far as a man being

00:31:56.069 --> 00:31:58.869
a bride isn't something that just that's that's

00:31:58.869 --> 00:32:02.769
you don't know what that means like and um and

00:32:02.769 --> 00:32:05.130
then i went to the scripture where it says uh

00:32:05.130 --> 00:32:08.650
that men are to love their wives as christ loves

00:32:08.650 --> 00:32:11.990
the church you are a representation of christ

00:32:11.990 --> 00:32:15.630
on the earth which i am too but it's like and

00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:20.450
i'm a representation of the church Is that kind

00:32:20.450 --> 00:32:24.150
of my interpretation? And so I was in the space

00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:33.390
of when you as a man are called a bride and guys,

00:32:33.490 --> 00:32:35.529
please don't come after us after our theology.

00:32:36.390 --> 00:32:38.789
We're very much aware that we are the church,

00:32:38.930 --> 00:32:42.210
that Christ is coming back for his church and

00:32:42.210 --> 00:32:44.509
she's not going to have spot or wrinkle. But

00:32:44.509 --> 00:32:49.400
we also know that that is. a metaphor of what

00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:53.339
it is of, of how we should be seeing. Because,

00:32:53.420 --> 00:32:56.660
because I was, it was like, before I get into

00:32:56.660 --> 00:32:59.960
the response, you know, I did after afterwards,

00:33:00.099 --> 00:33:03.180
I kind of looked it up and it was like, there

00:33:03.180 --> 00:33:07.019
was just, it was, there, there were a lot of

00:33:07.019 --> 00:33:09.440
references to, yes, there's a lot of references

00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.480
to the bride of Christ. There's a lot of references

00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.890
to, of, of that. And, you know, a bride that

00:33:14.890 --> 00:33:17.329
is, you know, clean and spotless without mark

00:33:17.329 --> 00:33:21.589
and stuff like that. Yeah. And it's always, it,

00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:26.829
with what I was reading, it always was the church.

00:33:27.029 --> 00:33:30.750
Yeah. Is the bride. Right. To, to Christ. And

00:33:30.750 --> 00:33:35.210
as far as like the clean without marker, ring

00:33:35.210 --> 00:33:41.569
marker or stuff, you know, the, like the language

00:33:41.569 --> 00:33:48.039
I was reading, it was, Christ is preparing his

00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:52.900
bride to make sure that she is ready for him.

00:33:53.380 --> 00:33:57.220
And it was this really cool picture that I saw

00:33:57.220 --> 00:34:03.079
of, again, because they made sure, back in the

00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.630
day, they made sure that... when you were going

00:34:05.630 --> 00:34:08.190
to sacrifice a lamb or something to the temple,

00:34:08.349 --> 00:34:11.409
this is a burnt offering to God, it had to be

00:34:11.409 --> 00:34:13.809
a clean animal. It had to be a clean animal.

00:34:13.949 --> 00:34:15.989
It had to be no defects, so on and so forth.

00:34:16.349 --> 00:34:20.150
And so it was like there were things that the

00:34:20.150 --> 00:34:24.429
shepherds and such would do to make sure that

00:34:24.429 --> 00:34:26.489
those were clean animals, that those animals

00:34:26.489 --> 00:34:28.610
were taken care of, that those animals were,

00:34:28.610 --> 00:34:32.730
you know. cleaned and bathed properly they were

00:34:32.730 --> 00:34:36.050
set apart they were set apart they you know there

00:34:36.050 --> 00:34:38.530
was the the story that i've heard a couple times

00:34:38.530 --> 00:34:43.150
of you know they would pour oil on the heads

00:34:43.150 --> 00:34:46.349
of of the lambs and of the sheep and it wasn't

00:34:46.349 --> 00:34:50.090
you know yes pouring oil on a head is is symbolic

00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:53.010
of of anointing and it is an act of anointing

00:34:53.010 --> 00:34:57.670
but it was also to make sure that when the sheep

00:34:58.429 --> 00:35:01.630
got into like a bramble or something like that

00:35:01.630 --> 00:35:04.309
their heads wouldn't get stuck right you know

00:35:04.309 --> 00:35:07.210
so it was like a practical thing as well and

00:35:07.210 --> 00:35:09.949
so it's like it also kept the bugs and the things

00:35:09.949 --> 00:35:12.570
from going in their noses and around their eyes

00:35:12.570 --> 00:35:15.849
to keep them from getting irritated and infections

00:35:15.849 --> 00:35:19.190
yeah so it was like so it's like everything that

00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:23.960
i saw scripture wise it was like Those kind of

00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.139
languages. But as far as husband to wife, it

00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:32.579
was always a husband as a representative of Jesus.

00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:36.579
You sacrifice yourself for your wife just like

00:35:36.579 --> 00:35:39.320
Christ sacrificed himself for the church. The

00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:43.840
wife is representation of the church that submits

00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:48.280
to Jesus. So on and so forth. And that's why...

00:35:48.940 --> 00:35:51.079
A wife submits to her husband, you know, because

00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.639
he's willing to die to himself for her. Yeah.

00:35:54.739 --> 00:35:58.320
He's willing to sacrifice for her. So therefore

00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.119
she should submit because he will sacrifice.

00:36:02.460 --> 00:36:04.940
Yeah. You know, and it's, it's, you know, again,

00:36:05.059 --> 00:36:07.440
it's not, it's not one or the other. Like we've

00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.280
talked about one time, you know, like the, the

00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.760
love and respect. It's like, I'm not going to

00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:14.679
respect you because you love me and you're not

00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.340
going to love me because I respect you, but I'm

00:36:16.340 --> 00:36:19.219
going to respect you because I, I'm going to,

00:36:19.219 --> 00:36:20.860
I'm going to love you because I love you and

00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:22.179
you're going to respect me because you respect

00:36:22.179 --> 00:36:25.400
me. Right. It's a command. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:36:25.820 --> 00:36:29.179
It's one of those things. Yeah. So I, I loved

00:36:29.179 --> 00:36:33.880
your response because, um, it, it went into a

00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:37.579
deeper space. Uh, did you want to read your response?

00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:45.280
Okay. Yeah. Um, so yeah, so I think, um, so I

00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:49.369
said, I, I basically said, you know, as far as

00:36:49.369 --> 00:36:51.869
the whole, is it hard for men to think of themselves

00:36:51.869 --> 00:36:54.710
as a bride? Um, and I was like, yeah, I think

00:36:54.710 --> 00:36:57.250
that's part of it. And I think another part of

00:36:57.250 --> 00:37:00.429
it is that, you know, the church has taken masculinity

00:37:00.429 --> 00:37:08.389
so far out of the church of men. Um, and because

00:37:08.389 --> 00:37:10.710
it feels like it's, they've made it more about

00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:14.989
feelings and thoughts than about action. Um,

00:37:17.670 --> 00:37:23.449
You know, it's. What did I say? You know, the

00:37:23.449 --> 00:37:25.889
action that it's like the action that's there

00:37:25.889 --> 00:37:28.250
is gentle and calm. You know, they don't want

00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:30.250
they don't want men of action. They don't want

00:37:30.250 --> 00:37:34.750
like warriors attending church. They want they

00:37:34.750 --> 00:37:37.730
want somebody that's calm and gentle. Yeah. That

00:37:37.730 --> 00:37:40.889
will call themselves a warrior. And it's like

00:37:40.889 --> 00:37:43.389
if you're not able to do dangerous things, you're

00:37:43.389 --> 00:37:45.730
not you're not gentle. You're just harmless.

00:37:48.269 --> 00:37:51.190
I was going to say, that's one of those guys

00:37:51.190 --> 00:37:58.329
that has said that. Because again, so many preachers

00:37:58.329 --> 00:38:00.650
and so many influencers, they shout and preach

00:38:00.650 --> 00:38:04.389
that we're warriors for God. And then they turn

00:38:04.389 --> 00:38:06.630
to all of us men and they tell us to use our

00:38:06.630 --> 00:38:09.489
inside voices and our gentle hands and the gentle

00:38:09.489 --> 00:38:14.260
parenting and stuff like that. our children,

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.099
our brothers, our wives, they're drowning or

00:38:17.099 --> 00:38:19.000
they're stuck in the thorns and the brambles.

00:38:19.659 --> 00:38:22.639
And we're told to ask for permission to save

00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.880
them and to encourage them to save themselves.

00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.239
You know, it's like, you know, Oh no, just encourage

00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.619
them and pray for them and then they'll be fine.

00:38:30.780 --> 00:38:35.460
It's, you know, and it's like, they tell us,

00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.619
don't be, don't be rough. Yeah. And that you

00:38:38.619 --> 00:38:42.300
should be uplifting in your rescue, you know?

00:38:42.300 --> 00:38:47.530
And it's like, No, if you're drowning, I should

00:38:47.530 --> 00:38:51.789
jump in and fight. Yes. You know, all of a sudden

00:38:51.789 --> 00:38:54.650
it's like when I'm using that example, I remember

00:38:54.650 --> 00:38:57.710
when I was long ago in Boy Scouts and learning

00:38:57.710 --> 00:38:59.429
about saving somebody when they're drowning.

00:38:59.590 --> 00:39:04.010
Yeah. If somebody is struggling against you and

00:39:04.010 --> 00:39:07.389
like won't let go or won't comply, you should

00:39:07.389 --> 00:39:14.360
dunk them under the water. No way. To snap them

00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:18.119
out of it. That makes sense. Yeah. Yes. Because

00:39:18.119 --> 00:39:20.320
they're flailing and they're thrashing and you

00:39:20.320 --> 00:39:22.420
can't save someone when they're flailing and

00:39:22.420 --> 00:39:24.679
thrashing. Wow. So you basically just let them

00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:27.480
go under for a bit and then bring it back up.

00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.199
It'd be like, you good? You gonna let me do this

00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:36.539
now? Wow. And nobody that wants to say men be

00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:39.880
gentle are gonna want to preach that. Yeah. Nobody's

00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:45.320
gonna want to say that. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

00:39:48.019 --> 00:39:51.880
It's castration by religion. It's not what God

00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:56.019
has called us to be. Man. You know, men will

00:39:56.019 --> 00:39:59.320
embrace the sacrifice, the dying to self, like

00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:04.460
Jesus. That is how we're built. The preparing,

00:40:04.659 --> 00:40:12.599
we know how to prepare, or wait, no. Men preparing

00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:17.519
to be a bride is foreign and incompatible to

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:22.659
being a man. Because it is. There's so much.

00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:31.050
Again, you're not saying. As far as like Jesus

00:40:31.050 --> 00:40:33.750
coming back for his church when he says it's

00:40:33.750 --> 00:40:35.829
the bride, because again, that's a symbolism.

00:40:35.969 --> 00:40:38.789
That's him trying to say that. You're not saying

00:40:38.789 --> 00:40:44.030
that, but you are saying that because of the

00:40:44.030 --> 00:40:50.090
emasculation that has happened in culture. And

00:40:50.090 --> 00:40:52.070
it's so funny because I know a lot of times people

00:40:52.070 --> 00:40:55.110
say, well, because of culture, it seeped into

00:40:55.110 --> 00:40:59.150
the church. No, the church hasn't risen up. become

00:40:59.150 --> 00:41:01.190
the church and done what it is that they've been

00:41:01.190 --> 00:41:04.610
created to do. And, and like you said, religion

00:41:04.610 --> 00:41:09.969
has emasculated men. And so because of that in

00:41:09.969 --> 00:41:14.050
the church, it has blood into the culture. And,

00:41:14.050 --> 00:41:19.929
and now what we see is what we see. Yeah. You

00:41:19.929 --> 00:41:21.969
know, I mean, I mean, again, I, I've, I've seen

00:41:21.969 --> 00:41:26.570
that whole, you know, I've seen the arguments

00:41:26.570 --> 00:41:31.489
of, When something happens in a school or something

00:41:31.489 --> 00:41:33.929
and the people are praying, it's like, God, why

00:41:33.929 --> 00:41:37.789
did you leave us and why did you let this happen?

00:41:37.909 --> 00:41:39.610
It's like, well, why did you kick me out of your

00:41:39.610 --> 00:41:43.329
school? That part. Sincerely, that part. And

00:41:43.329 --> 00:41:47.389
even outside of that, it's, God, why are you

00:41:47.389 --> 00:41:51.469
letting this happen in your churches? You kicked

00:41:51.469 --> 00:41:53.349
me out. I'm pretty sure there's a few scriptures.

00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:56.360
Yes, it's Revelation, but I'm pretty sure there's

00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:58.039
a few scriptures that said, I stood at the door

00:41:58.039 --> 00:42:03.739
knocking. Yeah. Nobody answered. Yeah. I mean,

00:42:03.820 --> 00:42:07.280
Jesus is pretty clear about what should and shouldn't

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:11.059
happen in a temple, in a house of prayer. Yes.

00:42:11.139 --> 00:42:15.460
And when people are doing what God has not called

00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:20.780
to do, or when they're doing stuff, I mean, there

00:42:20.780 --> 00:42:23.800
was another thing I saw. I mean, this kind of

00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:27.440
goes along with what has Jesus taught and the

00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:30.820
masculine and the taking firm action and all

00:42:30.820 --> 00:42:37.380
that. Somebody was like, if somebody does something

00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:40.559
in the church, it's like we shouldn't kick them

00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.099
out of the church. We need to be there for them.

00:42:43.139 --> 00:42:44.840
We need to pray for them. We need to counsel

00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:48.159
them. We need to give them more chances, so on

00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.360
and so forth. And it's like, if you read... Like

00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.760
Acts and a couple of the other books, they're

00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:56.900
like, oh, yeah, this person was doing something.

00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:59.500
Kick him out. Yeah. They do not belong in our

00:42:59.500 --> 00:43:01.679
church. Yeah. You know, what was it? There was

00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.980
some guy that was sleeping with his father's

00:43:05.980 --> 00:43:10.739
wife. And it's like, kick him out. Yeah. He does

00:43:10.739 --> 00:43:14.500
not belong in our community. He does not belong

00:43:14.500 --> 00:43:16.900
in the church. Yeah. He is obviously not doing

00:43:16.900 --> 00:43:20.360
what Jesus has taught. Right. You know? Right.

00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.699
And it's like, there is. I think there's such

00:43:23.699 --> 00:43:27.900
a... See, I'm going to get on my high horse,

00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:30.320
and I don't want to. Go ahead. I'm going to get

00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.780
ramped up. See, I'm pushing the button. You are

00:43:33.780 --> 00:43:37.599
pushing the button, next to the button. I think

00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:41.800
there's such a coddle culture. Come on, babe.

00:43:41.880 --> 00:43:45.280
Especially in the churches, that it's... They

00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.210
don't want men to be met. And... It's frustrating.

00:43:53.710 --> 00:43:57.530
These kind of topics are like, I need to restart

00:43:57.530 --> 00:44:02.889
the equipment and rant about this. Not rant about

00:44:02.889 --> 00:44:07.289
this, but talk about this. Because they do. They

00:44:07.289 --> 00:44:10.730
sit there and they say, we need men. We need

00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:12.929
men to step up. We need men to be men. We need

00:44:12.929 --> 00:44:15.030
men to be good leaders. We need men to be fathers.

00:44:15.170 --> 00:44:16.829
We need men to be the heads of the household.

00:44:17.110 --> 00:44:21.460
We need men in church. How often have they complained

00:44:21.460 --> 00:44:24.980
and railed at a vast majority of the church,

00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:28.320
vast majority of ministry leaders and stuff like

00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:30.539
that? It's women. It's women. It's women. We

00:44:30.539 --> 00:44:34.039
need more men. We need more men. Me being on

00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:37.360
security, being close to the pastors a couple

00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.780
few weeks ago, man, we need more men prayer warriors.

00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:44.920
Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep, we do. Yeah. Or, oh my

00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:46.739
gosh, why aren't more men coming down for prayer?

00:44:47.820 --> 00:44:52.010
It's a good question. Come on. I have a feeling

00:44:52.010 --> 00:44:55.989
I know the answer. What is it? It's because as

00:44:55.989 --> 00:44:59.369
much as they say we need men, they will then

00:44:59.369 --> 00:45:03.789
turn and say, well, not that kind. Not that kind

00:45:03.789 --> 00:45:07.409
of man. Yeah. We need a gentle man. You don't

00:45:07.409 --> 00:45:11.210
want a gentle man. You want a harmless man. You

00:45:11.210 --> 00:45:16.210
want the, when you read the meek shall inherit

00:45:16.210 --> 00:45:21.000
the earth, you hear the weak. come on sir and

00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.719
that's not what it is right say what meek is

00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:26.900
what is meek is you are capable of danger again

00:45:26.900 --> 00:45:30.579
it's it's back to the you're dangerous but gentle

00:45:30.579 --> 00:45:33.260
because you know how to control it you know how

00:45:33.260 --> 00:45:40.440
to pull back you know how to i know in this situation

00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:47.679
i can do this much damage yes but i Again, I

00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:50.000
think I've talked about this before. Playing

00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:53.579
with Sebastian. Yeah. I could severely hurt Sebastian.

00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:56.780
Yes. Wrestling with him. Yeah. Tossing him around.

00:45:57.019 --> 00:46:00.139
You know, bopping him in the forehead. But I

00:46:00.139 --> 00:46:04.880
don't because I love him. Yeah. He has never

00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.760
been hurt by my hand. No. Because I love him.

00:46:08.940 --> 00:46:15.019
Right. In my mind, that is meek. Yeah. Yeah.

00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:20.369
I... I am capable of great destruction. Yes.

00:46:22.889 --> 00:46:28.030
And I don't. Yeah. Yeah. Because I know the destruction

00:46:28.030 --> 00:46:33.090
that could follow. Yeah. That is what the church

00:46:33.090 --> 00:46:36.570
needs. That is what marriage is made. Yes. Yes.

00:46:36.670 --> 00:46:40.630
You know, marriages need a strong man like that.

00:46:40.710 --> 00:46:46.829
Yeah. Marriages need a woman that can. cultivate

00:46:46.829 --> 00:46:53.730
that encourage that be with that no no speak

00:46:53.730 --> 00:46:58.909
to that baby it is you know because it's it because

00:46:58.909 --> 00:47:03.170
i feel like i can do these things because you're

00:47:03.170 --> 00:47:05.630
by my side yeah because you do encourage me you

00:47:05.630 --> 00:47:11.769
do celebrate yes my raw masculinity at times

00:47:11.769 --> 00:47:18.199
it is sexy But even when it makes a mess, even

00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.079
when it's messy, even when it's raw, even when

00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.260
it's gross. Sweaty, dirty, gross, all of the

00:47:24.260 --> 00:47:27.400
things. Everything that is man, everything that

00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:31.199
is boy, right? All of those things. Giving you

00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.300
space. I didn't mean to jump in on this. But

00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:37.780
I want to make sure that the wives are hearing

00:47:37.780 --> 00:47:44.380
you, but also they're hearing me. I am your biggest...

00:47:44.750 --> 00:47:49.750
tiniest cheerleader like it it's it's that it

00:47:49.750 --> 00:47:54.449
is we wonder why i think that that's what's my

00:47:54.449 --> 00:47:59.269
conversation again with you on this part. We

00:47:59.269 --> 00:48:04.710
come into this space, we see the men of God rising

00:48:04.710 --> 00:48:07.710
up and being the warriors and doing the things.

00:48:07.849 --> 00:48:11.349
And then what happens is when you no longer give

00:48:11.349 --> 00:48:13.550
them a battle or you no longer give them the

00:48:13.550 --> 00:48:16.289
permission to fight in the capacity and in the

00:48:16.289 --> 00:48:19.929
way that they were designed to fight, then it

00:48:19.929 --> 00:48:25.920
will become destructive. they will either implode

00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.300
or explode. And I've seen it both. I've seen

00:48:30.300 --> 00:48:33.059
it with you. I've seen it with other men. We've

00:48:33.059 --> 00:48:35.719
seen it with friends. We've seen it with churches

00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:40.800
where when you don't allow, if you as the man

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.280
of God do not, number one, hone in your fight.

00:48:44.889 --> 00:48:48.090
On the right target, it can get very, very destructive.

00:48:48.389 --> 00:48:51.489
Yeah. Just like what you're saying. If you were

00:48:51.489 --> 00:48:55.590
to hone your target as Sebastian, you're going

00:48:55.590 --> 00:48:58.829
to kill our little boy. Yeah. But if you are

00:48:58.829 --> 00:49:02.489
going after the enemy that is trying to attack

00:49:02.489 --> 00:49:06.780
our son. then what you're doing is number one,

00:49:06.820 --> 00:49:09.599
you are chopping off the head of the Goliath

00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.579
and you are also teaching our son how to be a

00:49:12.579 --> 00:49:18.099
David. And it's like, when we don't allow men

00:49:18.099 --> 00:49:21.260
to step up into the arena that they were created

00:49:21.260 --> 00:49:25.489
to be. As wives, as women, you can't be that

00:49:25.489 --> 00:49:28.389
hard on him. Don't do that. Don't talk to our

00:49:28.389 --> 00:49:30.389
daughter. You can't talk to even our daughter

00:49:30.389 --> 00:49:33.590
that way. You've had thoughts like that. I have.

00:49:33.730 --> 00:49:37.429
I have said things like that. I have. And I am

00:49:37.429 --> 00:49:40.670
guilty. I'm absolutely guilty. You have to admit,

00:49:40.750 --> 00:49:43.570
I've gotten so much better over the years. And

00:49:43.570 --> 00:49:51.039
that in itself. Should speak volumes to me and

00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:55.000
to other women because the moment. Yeah. The

00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.340
moment that I let you become dad and become father

00:49:58.340 --> 00:50:02.260
and become that person in her life and to speak,

00:50:02.300 --> 00:50:06.940
even if it came off gruff. Yeah. Like when I

00:50:06.940 --> 00:50:10.960
said, okay, am I going to sit here and correct

00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:13.000
you? I'm not going to sit here and tell you like

00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:17.079
I'm expressing to you. Baby, this is how she

00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:21.260
is. This is how she's going to respond. So cultivating

00:50:21.260 --> 00:50:27.519
that, yes, you know how to be gentle. You know

00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.480
how to be gentle. You could destroy any one of

00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.119
the three of us at any given time. You do not.

00:50:33.500 --> 00:50:36.860
With our words, with your words, with your strength,

00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.019
with whatever it is, you could at any given time.

00:50:40.059 --> 00:50:44.380
You do not. And because it's like, but the moment

00:50:44.380 --> 00:50:49.559
that I let the boy be the boy, the moment I said,

00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:54.980
this is who he's created to be. And babe, I might,

00:50:54.980 --> 00:50:57.039
I might step in a couple of times just because

00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.280
I'm mom. Yeah. But for the most part, like when

00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:04.420
I have just let you just be dad. Yeah. Gosh.

00:51:06.739 --> 00:51:11.340
The strength and the security and, and. just

00:51:11.340 --> 00:51:15.739
the sanctity that that creates for our children

00:51:15.739 --> 00:51:19.460
in our house. Yeah. Because what it does is it

00:51:19.460 --> 00:51:23.219
causes you to not second guess you. No. It doesn't

00:51:23.219 --> 00:51:27.019
cause you to second guess your manhood because

00:51:27.019 --> 00:51:29.579
that's what's happening in the churches. We're

00:51:29.579 --> 00:51:35.300
seeing where men are being told to sit. Yeah.

00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:38.449
Or, or. Let your wife handle it. Huh? Let your

00:51:38.449 --> 00:51:40.809
wife handle it. Let the wife handle it. Or, you

00:51:40.809 --> 00:51:42.949
know, well, you know, that's not quite how Jesus

00:51:42.949 --> 00:51:45.210
would do it or anything like that. And I'm not

00:51:45.210 --> 00:51:48.030
saying like all, this is not an all, this isn't

00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:50.889
a, but this is, we are seeing an epidemic right

00:51:50.889 --> 00:51:55.730
now. We are seeing where the men of God are literally,

00:51:55.769 --> 00:51:59.449
they're walking away because they're like, I

00:51:59.449 --> 00:52:04.760
am created. Yeah. For war, I'm created to build.

00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:10.280
I'm created to create. I'm created to fight and

00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:14.460
to stand and to love and to care and to cherish

00:52:14.460 --> 00:52:17.920
and to do the things as Jesus did because Jesus

00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:21.420
wasn't just this meek and mild hippie God. He

00:52:21.420 --> 00:52:29.420
was this strong, mighty, obedient, fervent craftsman.

00:52:30.179 --> 00:52:32.360
The only reason I say that is because, I mean,

00:52:32.380 --> 00:52:35.039
yes, he was a carpenter. Yeah. Yes, they've gone

00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:37.460
back and forth as to whether or not that, you

00:52:37.460 --> 00:52:40.400
know, because there wasn't a whole lot of wood

00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.920
back then. Right. And so if you're a stone carpenter.

00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.980
You're a masonry shoot. I mean, I had an uncle

00:52:45.980 --> 00:52:51.099
that was a stone mason. I would not cross paths

00:52:51.099 --> 00:52:52.960
with him. He was one of the friendliest guys.

00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:57.340
But, man, you do not. I mean, his hands. He had

00:52:57.340 --> 00:53:02.639
massive, massive strong hands. But also. Dang.

00:53:03.460 --> 00:53:08.039
Massive strong hands. Also, limber hands that

00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:14.280
he made a whip. Sir. You know? Yeah. So, it's

00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:19.710
like, give each other. We need to give each other

00:53:19.710 --> 00:53:22.590
that permission in that space as husbands and

00:53:22.590 --> 00:53:28.449
wives and say, and recognize that we need both,

00:53:28.449 --> 00:53:32.909
that we need both in that space. And it's like,

00:53:32.929 --> 00:53:42.570
when men rise in the place of the fullness of

00:53:42.570 --> 00:53:47.690
everything that God has created them to be. It's

00:53:47.690 --> 00:53:51.829
just like us looking at Jesus and saying, okay,

00:53:51.869 --> 00:53:54.309
God, I'm going to give you permission, but only

00:53:54.309 --> 00:53:59.210
this far. You can only do so much. You can heal

00:53:59.210 --> 00:54:02.769
me, but not that. Right? Like I have said this.

00:54:02.769 --> 00:54:05.929
I want you to take away my trauma, except for

00:54:05.929 --> 00:54:08.849
what's in that closet over there. Yeah, you can't

00:54:08.849 --> 00:54:14.469
do that. And then we wonder why we are walking

00:54:14.469 --> 00:54:21.000
around lame. And, and, and just were disabled

00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:24.099
at that point. And I, and I think also it's,

00:54:24.099 --> 00:54:29.420
you know, it's, it's back to the men need a direction.

00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:32.719
You know, I think all of us need direction, but

00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:35.079
especially men, you know, because men are, are

00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:36.719
meant to be the leaders and stuff like that.

00:54:36.780 --> 00:54:38.639
And, and why, you know, as long as you're a good

00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:41.019
husband, wives and children are going to follow

00:54:41.019 --> 00:54:43.019
you regardless of where you go. So they need

00:54:43.019 --> 00:54:49.480
a direction more than anything else. In addition

00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:54.079
to needing direction, men need a target. Come

00:54:54.079 --> 00:55:00.000
on. Because that's back to the, if I have a target,

00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:01.940
if I know what I'm working towards, if I know

00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:03.579
what I'm marching towards, if I know what I'm

00:55:03.579 --> 00:55:08.139
attacking towards, I can keep my eye on that.

00:55:08.260 --> 00:55:10.780
I can keep my focus on that. I can keep my goals,

00:55:10.820 --> 00:55:13.639
my motivation, my discipline aimed towards that.

00:55:14.849 --> 00:55:17.929
And again, you said it, when we don't have that,

00:55:18.090 --> 00:55:21.170
men will attack whatever's closest or they will

00:55:21.170 --> 00:55:24.449
completely implode. Right, right. And so I think

00:55:24.449 --> 00:55:29.030
it's one of those things that it's like having

00:55:29.030 --> 00:55:34.150
those hard conversations of, and I know it's

00:55:34.150 --> 00:55:37.250
hard. I know it's hard. I know it's hard because

00:55:37.250 --> 00:55:39.750
you and I have had some of those conversations

00:55:39.750 --> 00:55:45.119
and they are very difficult to have. Because

00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:49.619
it is. Sometimes it's one of those where, well,

00:55:49.659 --> 00:55:52.360
babe, what do you want? And I'm like, I want

00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:56.860
to go out and attack something. Not metaphorically.

00:55:56.880 --> 00:56:00.420
No, I literally want to go out and attack something.

00:56:01.260 --> 00:56:05.369
So again, it's like, what do you do? Right. And,

00:56:05.489 --> 00:56:08.170
you know, so we had a lot of those conversations.

00:56:08.489 --> 00:56:12.610
And for me, it was, let's go do martial arts.

00:56:12.889 --> 00:56:15.289
Let's learn some of this. Let's learn some of

00:56:15.289 --> 00:56:17.949
that. Because even before then, you did the Highland

00:56:17.949 --> 00:56:20.590
Games. Yeah. And you were constantly conquering

00:56:20.590 --> 00:56:22.969
and building your strength and stamina. You had

00:56:22.969 --> 00:56:25.309
obstacles and you had these, we've done obstacle

00:56:25.309 --> 00:56:27.210
courses and we've done other things like that.

00:56:27.269 --> 00:56:32.389
I think we are hardwired. You are hardwired to

00:56:32.389 --> 00:56:37.099
do certain things. It is. Men are hardwired to

00:56:37.099 --> 00:56:41.400
do the physical things. I remember years ago

00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:43.639
I had a conversation with a group of men, and

00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.159
we were talking about what can we do to get more

00:56:46.159 --> 00:56:48.940
men involved in church, and not even so much

00:56:48.940 --> 00:56:51.960
involved in church, but we need something to

00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:55.599
get men together and have them connect so we

00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.219
can learn from each other, so we can teach each

00:56:58.219 --> 00:57:00.340
other, so we can build each other up, do all

00:57:00.340 --> 00:57:02.719
the really awesome things that men need to do.

00:57:03.739 --> 00:57:05.460
And it's like, what should we do? And I'm like,

00:57:05.539 --> 00:57:08.039
hey, how cool would it be to just get a bunch

00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:13.420
of guys together in the woods and build a fire

00:57:13.420 --> 00:57:17.039
and chop down a tree? Yeah. And they're like,

00:57:17.199 --> 00:57:19.599
eh, you know, there's some guys at church. They're

00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:21.460
kind of on the weak side. They're not going to

00:57:21.460 --> 00:57:22.940
want that. I'm like, yeah, I bet they would.

00:57:22.980 --> 00:57:24.820
I bet they would. I would be willing to bet my

00:57:24.820 --> 00:57:29.340
next paycheck. Yes. Yes. You know, because it

00:57:29.340 --> 00:57:31.739
is. I think it's one of those things. It's dormant

00:57:31.739 --> 00:57:34.579
inside. You know, all these ones that are like,

00:57:34.699 --> 00:57:36.860
well, you know, they spend, you know, 24 -7 on

00:57:36.860 --> 00:57:39.059
their computer or on electronics. And it's like,

00:57:39.099 --> 00:57:40.420
you know, they don't have any strength. It's

00:57:40.420 --> 00:57:43.059
like, I bet they would. Yeah. I bet they'd want

00:57:43.059 --> 00:57:46.059
to do that. because how else is somebody going

00:57:46.059 --> 00:57:47.820
to get strong except that you get them out there

00:57:47.820 --> 00:57:50.239
to do that anyway? Yeah. Oh, that's a whole other

00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:53.420
topic. Like that's a whole other topic. You have

00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:58.239
to, you, but it is, it's, it's that, it's that

00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.300
conversation that husbands and wives need to

00:58:00.300 --> 00:58:06.760
have. Yes. About men need direction. Men need

00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:12.099
a target. Yes. How can I find my target? Yeah.

00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:19.099
How can I find a productive target? Yes. That

00:58:19.099 --> 00:58:23.300
I can put my energy towards. Yeah. You know,

00:58:23.300 --> 00:58:27.820
that won't destroy me or my family. Yeah. Or

00:58:27.820 --> 00:58:31.320
my job or whatever. Right. And yes, prayer is

00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:36.500
good. Going to church is good. There needs to

00:58:36.500 --> 00:58:39.059
be something physical. There needs to be something

00:58:39.059 --> 00:58:41.280
physical. Yes, yes. You know, because again,

00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:43.960
and maybe this is, you know, I kind of had a

00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:47.800
thought the other day, and I forget if this thought

00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:51.139
was after that exchange of texts and all, but

00:58:51.139 --> 00:58:56.659
like the countries that do mandatory military

00:58:56.659 --> 00:59:01.820
service, you know, it's like at least that teaches

00:59:01.820 --> 00:59:07.119
that. Yes. Yes. That provides a foundation. Yeah.

00:59:07.500 --> 00:59:10.099
You know, I, I'm super stoked that, you know,

00:59:10.099 --> 00:59:11.679
there are more people going into the military

00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:13.559
these days, you know, that, that people are,

00:59:13.579 --> 00:59:17.059
are looking at that and I love it. And it's,

00:59:17.059 --> 00:59:20.019
it's, I think this is one of the things that

00:59:20.019 --> 00:59:22.940
I'm excited about when we talk about homeschooling

00:59:22.940 --> 00:59:26.440
Sebastian. Yeah. It's like incorporating some

00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:29.059
of these things. Yeah. You know, yes, let's build

00:59:29.059 --> 00:59:31.659
his brain. Let's, let's, let's teach him these

00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:33.989
things, you know, let's, let's get them. building

00:59:33.989 --> 00:59:36.750
like robotics and gadgets and stuff like that

00:59:36.750 --> 00:59:40.750
let's have him reading about you know knights

00:59:40.750 --> 00:59:44.650
and and mice that can can take down bad guys

00:59:44.650 --> 00:59:47.510
and stuff like that and you know but let's teach

00:59:47.510 --> 00:59:49.690
him some of these things you know like I've been

00:59:49.690 --> 00:59:53.429
it's like I don't know how it would work but

00:59:53.429 --> 00:59:55.530
I think it would be entertaining to watch but

00:59:55.530 --> 00:59:58.940
it's like I've been learning some Kali And he's

00:59:58.940 --> 01:00:03.119
like, teach me. He wants to so badly to go with.

01:00:03.179 --> 01:00:06.460
Yes. And I'm like, yes, that would be interesting.

01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:09.139
Yeah. And it's like, I think, I think for the

01:00:09.139 --> 01:00:10.980
most part, the guys would appreciate it. Yeah.

01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:14.619
I think he should go with you. Absolutely. Even

01:00:14.619 --> 01:00:16.679
if he just sits on the sideline. Maybe I'll have

01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.940
to just ask, but yeah. Yeah. I think that that

01:00:18.940 --> 01:00:21.400
would be awesome. Yeah. Because you see how physical

01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:26.110
he's, he's. He wants to wrestle. Yeah, he does.

01:00:26.130 --> 01:00:28.809
He wants so desperately to wrestle you. And I

01:00:28.809 --> 01:00:35.769
think that, side note, that the men of God, women

01:00:35.769 --> 01:00:39.670
of God too, okay? I don't believe that this is

01:00:39.670 --> 01:00:41.329
coincidence that we're talking about this because

01:00:41.329 --> 01:00:44.570
this is very much along the lines of what us

01:00:44.570 --> 01:00:46.710
and that me and the girls are going to be talking

01:00:46.710 --> 01:00:49.369
about something very similar in our next episode.

01:00:49.949 --> 01:00:54.460
And it's one of those... spaces and places where

01:00:54.460 --> 01:00:59.920
it's like, I think also in the church that there's

01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:02.960
such a perfection mentality that once you become

01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.599
a Christian, that you have to be perfect, right?

01:01:05.659 --> 01:01:07.699
In your walk, perfect in who you are, perfect

01:01:07.699 --> 01:01:10.300
in this and perfect in that. And when you fail

01:01:10.300 --> 01:01:12.139
and when you fall down, because you will, because

01:01:12.139 --> 01:01:17.019
you will, you just will. Hi. Hello. Hi. Hi. We

01:01:17.019 --> 01:01:20.420
have a savior for a reason, right? So when you

01:01:20.420 --> 01:01:23.489
fall down, The thing is, is a lot of times people

01:01:23.489 --> 01:01:26.750
don't want to jump into these spaces and these

01:01:26.750 --> 01:01:29.369
places or they don't want to be the one that

01:01:29.369 --> 01:01:32.929
stands up and speaks up and says, no, no, no,

01:01:32.949 --> 01:01:37.630
no, that wasn't right. No, no, no, no, that actually,

01:01:37.750 --> 01:01:41.050
no, that isn't correct, what you just said. You

01:01:41.050 --> 01:01:44.590
know, lovingly, respectfully, but just like,

01:01:44.750 --> 01:01:47.429
hey, no, like, well, no, this is how this is.

01:01:47.929 --> 01:01:50.730
No, actually, it's not. That's not the word of

01:01:50.730 --> 01:01:55.469
God. That's not what that says. And I think too

01:01:55.469 --> 01:01:57.570
many times either people have been shut down

01:01:57.570 --> 01:02:01.289
so many times or they're afraid to even try because

01:02:01.289 --> 01:02:04.110
they haven't been strong enough in the past.

01:02:04.250 --> 01:02:07.030
You're talking about these men that are on their

01:02:07.030 --> 01:02:10.679
computers and stuff. Why do you think that a

01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:13.199
lot of times, probably 24 -7, that they're on

01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:15.300
the computer? Because number one, that might

01:02:15.300 --> 01:02:17.559
be the thing that they are gifted in. But number

01:02:17.559 --> 01:02:21.280
two, nobody taught them any different. Or they

01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:24.980
tried and that's just not something they do.

01:02:25.659 --> 01:02:30.079
And I'll make the argument because I have played

01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:31.960
a lot of video games in my life. I've spent a

01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:36.960
lot of time on a computer. I'm that level. I

01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.960
have built several computers. But it's like,

01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:44.840
to a degree, it's also, hey, I feel like I need

01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.920
to take a big sword and swing it at people. They

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:53.179
frown on that in public. But if I log on to some

01:02:53.179 --> 01:02:56.860
online game, all of a sudden, I am now a warrior.

01:02:56.940 --> 01:03:00.059
I'm saving the day. No, I hear you. I've got

01:03:00.059 --> 01:03:02.519
a big old sword, a big old axe, a big old shield,

01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:06.880
covered in armor, and I'm charging headlong.

01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:10.280
Into the bad guys and I'm taking them down and

01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:12.860
I'm saving the day. Yeah. I'm saving the damsel.

01:03:13.019 --> 01:03:17.440
Yeah. I'm slaying the dragon. I'm crushing the

01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:22.340
demons. Yes. Watch me go. Yeah. I can't do this

01:03:22.340 --> 01:03:27.920
in real life, but as this character online, I

01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:31.119
can now do this. Yeah. You can pick me up and

01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:32.679
throw me over your shoulder anytime you want

01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:34.840
to, but it's fine. You can absolutely do that

01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:39.739
with me. That's fine. I'll let you. I do hear

01:03:39.739 --> 01:03:41.239
what you're saying. Yeah. I hear what you're

01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:43.280
saying. But do you understand what I'm saying?

01:03:43.340 --> 01:03:47.599
Yeah, 100%. As far as like, I think because the

01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:51.159
practical. Yeah. The everyday. Yeah. The learning

01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.400
how to slay the everyday giants. Learning how

01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:54.840
to, kind of like what our daughter was saying.

01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.619
Like, is this really? Like, is this marriage?

01:03:57.119 --> 01:03:59.699
Like, oh, I just want all the swoopy, all the

01:03:59.699 --> 01:04:01.659
hearts and the flowers and all the thing. And

01:04:01.659 --> 01:04:05.019
it's like, no, it's the everyday. It's the. grinding

01:04:05.019 --> 01:04:08.920
it out yeah or you know sometimes it's the you

01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.940
know if if a if a dad doesn't know some of these

01:04:12.940 --> 01:04:16.300
things right and he has it in his mind of well

01:04:16.300 --> 01:04:21.639
if i if i teach my son business skills yeah he'll

01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:24.420
be a man if i teach him how to budget his money

01:04:24.420 --> 01:04:27.179
right he'll be a man right and it's like there's

01:04:27.179 --> 01:04:29.730
so much more to it than that yeah That's part

01:04:29.730 --> 01:04:32.130
of it. That's part of it. Yes. It's good to be,

01:04:32.130 --> 01:04:34.289
you know, it's good to be knowledgeable about

01:04:34.289 --> 01:04:36.550
money and business. Yes. 100%. You know, because

01:04:36.550 --> 01:04:39.690
even the Bible teaches that. Yes. But there's

01:04:39.690 --> 01:04:42.309
so much more to being a man. It's a full meal

01:04:42.309 --> 01:04:45.809
deal. Yeah. Yeah. You know, because I think it's

01:04:45.809 --> 01:04:49.170
one of those things that I've heard it, I've

01:04:49.170 --> 01:04:52.449
heard it from men and I've also heard it for

01:04:52.449 --> 01:04:58.599
women as well. I know, you know. In very many

01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:01.900
Western cultures, especially America, there is

01:05:01.900 --> 01:05:07.019
no celebration of manhood or womanhood. Yeah.

01:05:07.139 --> 01:05:09.519
You know, I mean... Other cultures do that so

01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:11.239
beautifully. Other cultures do that very, very

01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:16.239
beautifully. Yeah. I mean, to a degree, it feels

01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:21.699
like in America for women, like, you'll have...

01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.159
hey, you just got your period. Congrats, you're

01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:28.079
a woman now. It's usually not a good thing. It's

01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:30.360
usually not a good thing. It's not something

01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.699
to celebrate. Oh, I should have celebrated, Gabriel.

01:05:33.019 --> 01:05:35.579
I should have done more. That's what we're going

01:05:35.579 --> 01:05:37.840
to do with our grandbabies. Sorry, go ahead.

01:05:38.019 --> 01:05:45.880
I know that people of the Jewish faith here in

01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.039
America, they do the bar mitzvahs, they do the

01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:51.670
bat mitzvahs. And there's different things like

01:05:51.670 --> 01:05:56.789
that, but there's no real celebration. There's

01:05:56.789 --> 01:06:01.809
no real, you are now a man, so here's the task

01:06:01.809 --> 01:06:04.050
that you need to accomplish. Or here's the task

01:06:04.050 --> 01:06:06.050
you need to accomplish, and once you accomplish

01:06:06.050 --> 01:06:08.869
that, once you're successful, congratulations,

01:06:09.170 --> 01:06:11.750
you've crossed the threshold. You are now a man.

01:06:12.110 --> 01:06:15.230
You are now a woman. Look at what you've accomplished.

01:06:15.369 --> 01:06:19.889
Look at what you've conquered. You are now fully

01:06:19.889 --> 01:06:23.590
arrived. You are now part of our tribe. Welcome.

01:06:24.210 --> 01:06:31.130
That makes me want to cry. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I'm

01:06:31.130 --> 01:06:33.489
just thinking of just society and I'm thinking

01:06:33.489 --> 01:06:35.710
of the people like in the church, but I'm thinking

01:06:35.710 --> 01:06:39.269
about just the people that are in the world.

01:06:39.349 --> 01:06:43.969
And I'm like Western civilization in particular.

01:06:44.050 --> 01:06:48.230
Like if we did that for each other. Yeah. we

01:06:48.230 --> 01:06:51.489
would not have some of the things that we see

01:06:51.489 --> 01:06:56.969
today. We just wouldn't. Because somewhere along

01:06:56.969 --> 01:07:01.230
the way, no matter what, the enemy has always

01:07:01.230 --> 01:07:06.230
played this game against, you know, like culture

01:07:06.230 --> 01:07:09.150
against culture, gender against gender, right?

01:07:09.230 --> 01:07:11.889
All of those things, these great divides. But

01:07:11.889 --> 01:07:15.730
then it's like... you know, Oh, it's easier for

01:07:15.730 --> 01:07:18.429
them over there or it's easier for them over

01:07:18.429 --> 01:07:21.489
there. And it's like, if we would celebrate each

01:07:21.489 --> 01:07:24.590
other in those spaces and those places of who

01:07:24.590 --> 01:07:29.769
we are and who God has designed us to be, we,

01:07:29.969 --> 01:07:34.110
we would see the church of God rising in such

01:07:34.110 --> 01:07:39.340
a capacity and we would see. We would genuinely

01:07:39.340 --> 01:07:43.440
see marriages being saved, families being rescued.

01:07:43.659 --> 01:07:48.619
We wouldn't see the fathers leaving the homes.

01:07:48.739 --> 01:07:52.500
We wouldn't see the great epidemics of these

01:07:52.500 --> 01:07:57.099
things happening. We would see more people coming

01:07:57.099 --> 01:08:02.860
together. And even giving men the platform that

01:08:02.860 --> 01:08:06.440
you guys deserve as far as like... coming in

01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:10.400
and like you're saying, teaching other, not just

01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:12.699
like this, the, the father's teaching the sons,

01:08:12.780 --> 01:08:16.119
but men teaching other men, like coming into

01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:20.699
the space and saying, you know, can I, can I,

01:08:20.699 --> 01:08:23.619
can I come alongside you? Not necessarily like,

01:08:23.640 --> 01:08:27.170
Oh bro, you're like totally. not you're totally

01:08:27.170 --> 01:08:29.810
squashing this. This is not going well, but like,

01:08:29.829 --> 01:08:32.850
let me come alongside you. I want to learn from

01:08:32.850 --> 01:08:34.729
you. I want to glean from you and you can glean

01:08:34.729 --> 01:08:38.109
from me. And then let's, let's start cultivating

01:08:38.109 --> 01:08:40.829
things together. And so like, I see where you're

01:08:40.829 --> 01:08:43.010
struggling right here, maybe with your son, or

01:08:43.010 --> 01:08:45.250
I have a really good relationship. Let me show

01:08:45.250 --> 01:08:47.270
you some of the things that we've done. Or I,

01:08:47.369 --> 01:08:49.430
Hey, you seem to have a really great relationship

01:08:49.430 --> 01:08:52.210
with your daughter. I have one. Could you help

01:08:52.210 --> 01:08:56.260
me? You know, just. Giving each other that space

01:08:56.260 --> 01:09:02.680
to be fully everything that you are created to

01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:08.640
be. And I'll say part of that is stepping up

01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:13.539
and embracing humility enough to say something.

01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:18.220
Yes. Yes. You know, because somewhere along the

01:09:18.220 --> 01:09:23.180
way, men have been taught, A, don't feel anything.

01:09:23.710 --> 01:09:26.390
But B, don't ask for help. Yeah. Don't reach

01:09:26.390 --> 01:09:29.729
out. You got this. The enemy has so screwed you

01:09:29.729 --> 01:09:33.010
guys. Yeah, they have. You know? Like, sincerely.

01:09:33.750 --> 01:09:36.189
Like, here, you got to go be a warrior, blah,

01:09:36.289 --> 01:09:37.789
blah, blah, blah, blah, but you can't use any

01:09:37.789 --> 01:09:42.350
of your tools. Yeah. Oh, and by the way, you're

01:09:42.350 --> 01:09:44.750
supposed to know everything, and if you fail,

01:09:44.770 --> 01:09:47.609
then you're no longer part of the man club. And

01:09:47.609 --> 01:09:50.109
if you don't do it 100 % on your own, you're

01:09:50.109 --> 01:09:54.359
out. You can't have any... That's... Yeah. Yep.

01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:58.579
Uh -huh. Got to checkmark that thing. That's

01:09:58.579 --> 01:10:01.659
bogus, babe. Yeah. That's bogus. But it is because,

01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:06.039
I mean, again, it's, you know, if I wanted to

01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:08.140
learn something and it's like, you know, hey,

01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:10.840
like let's say I wanted to rewire our house for

01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.340
some reason. Yeah. I would call up John. Yes.

01:10:13.340 --> 01:10:15.760
And say, I need you to teach me. Jesus, yes.

01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:20.180
can you do this with me? Yes. I want to be part

01:10:20.180 --> 01:10:21.859
of this because I want to learn how to do this.

01:10:21.859 --> 01:10:24.079
We have done that. Not the wiring of the house,

01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:28.640
but have said, Hey, help. Help. Yes. Yes. You

01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:34.520
know, and it's, and, and why shouldn't it is,

01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:39.359
why aren't more men doing that? I mean, I know

01:10:39.359 --> 01:10:42.100
why I know why that was totally rhetorical question.

01:10:42.279 --> 01:10:45.600
I know why, because, because. That's how we've

01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:47.300
been taught. That's how we've been raised. So

01:10:47.300 --> 01:10:49.859
how do you break it? You break it by just by

01:10:49.859 --> 01:10:54.760
getting men to remember how to be men. Yes. You

01:10:54.760 --> 01:11:00.600
break it by remembering, hey, I'm not in this

01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:04.399
by myself. Hey, I can ask for help. Hey, you

01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:07.779
know, asking for help is strength. Vulnerability

01:11:07.779 --> 01:11:12.699
is strength. You know, again, in the male community.

01:11:13.390 --> 01:11:16.909
Why is there so much drug addiction, alcohol

01:11:16.909 --> 01:11:21.170
addiction, porn addiction, suicide? Because men

01:11:21.170 --> 01:11:23.649
have always been taught you're not allowed to

01:11:23.649 --> 01:11:26.029
ask for help. You're not allowed to reach out.

01:11:26.569 --> 01:11:41.750
Yeah. Yeah. So what are some ways to do? I mean,

01:11:41.770 --> 01:11:46.550
I think... I think it comes down to remembering

01:11:46.550 --> 01:11:50.210
that the voices that say you can't reach out

01:11:50.210 --> 01:11:53.270
are stupid. Yes. For lack of a better word, stupid.

01:11:53.670 --> 01:11:59.890
Yeah. Because we can reach out. Yes. Because

01:11:59.890 --> 01:12:04.590
anytime somebody's reached out to me, I have

01:12:04.590 --> 01:12:07.029
never looked at them and said, oh, wow, you suck.

01:12:08.649 --> 01:12:11.640
Right, right. And anytime I've reached out to

01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:16.300
somebody, you know, oh, yeah, nope, I'm here

01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:20.520
for you. I've got a coworker who the other day

01:12:20.520 --> 01:12:22.800
was checking on me, and I'm like, you know, I've

01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:25.199
had a couple ups and downs. He's like, why didn't

01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:28.659
you call me? I was like, because I didn't think

01:12:28.659 --> 01:12:30.060
of it at the time. He's like, you better call

01:12:30.060 --> 01:12:33.380
me next time. I was like, okay, I can do that.

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.159
I love that. He also wants me to start a business

01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:38.100
with him, and I keep trying to tell him no, but.

01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:42.239
but he does he genuinely cares he's like he's

01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:44.220
like if you need anything he's like you got my

01:12:44.220 --> 01:12:47.060
number call me i love that he lives he lives

01:12:47.060 --> 01:12:48.600
an hour and a half away he's like you better

01:12:48.600 --> 01:12:50.720
call me if something happens you better call

01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:54.619
me i was like okay i love that you know and and

01:12:54.619 --> 01:13:02.079
i i do it's reminding men reminding women reminding

01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:06.720
couples that the help is there yeah the people

01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.170
that want to help are there yeah Nobody is going

01:13:10.170 --> 01:13:14.369
to belittle you. Nobody is going to make fun

01:13:14.369 --> 01:13:17.130
of you. Nobody is going to blow you off. If you

01:13:17.130 --> 01:13:21.710
go to somebody and say, I need help, they will

01:13:21.710 --> 01:13:26.489
do what they can to help. If you do encounter

01:13:26.489 --> 01:13:31.050
that one in however many that do kind of blow

01:13:31.050 --> 01:13:32.750
you off or they don't give you what you need,

01:13:32.890 --> 01:13:36.930
keep knocking. Keep seeking out. Keep finding

01:13:36.930 --> 01:13:40.649
people. Yeah. Keep making your voice heard because

01:13:40.649 --> 01:13:43.170
somebody will eventually. Because if you reach

01:13:43.170 --> 01:13:45.010
out to somebody and they blow you off or they

01:13:45.010 --> 01:13:47.029
make fun of you, they weren't going to help you

01:13:47.029 --> 01:13:50.850
in the first place. You're right. And that sucks.

01:13:51.029 --> 01:13:54.649
And that sucks. And that stinks. And I feel really

01:13:54.649 --> 01:13:57.670
horrible. I feel horrible for them. And I hope

01:13:57.670 --> 01:14:03.550
they get healed and saved and better. Amen. Saying

01:14:03.550 --> 01:14:06.409
all that, especially if you reach out to a Christian.

01:14:07.390 --> 01:14:10.789
We have had people reach out to us and say, my

01:14:10.789 --> 01:14:13.710
relationship is not going the best right now.

01:14:13.869 --> 01:14:17.029
What would you suggest? Never once have we said,

01:14:17.149 --> 01:14:19.710
wow, you guys aren't as good as us. Try harder.

01:14:19.909 --> 01:14:23.649
Oh, gosh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no. We would

01:14:23.649 --> 01:14:26.050
not be relationship coaches if that was our response.

01:14:26.229 --> 01:14:28.310
That would be very bad. That would be very bad.

01:14:28.470 --> 01:14:31.170
Yeah. But we would. We would say, oh, my gosh,

01:14:31.329 --> 01:14:34.770
how can we help? Yeah. Where are you guys at?

01:14:34.930 --> 01:14:38.260
Yeah. Let's have a conversation. let's sit down,

01:14:38.300 --> 01:14:41.079
let's break bread. Let's, let's talk things out.

01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:43.619
Let's see where you're at. Yeah. You know, let's

01:14:43.619 --> 01:14:45.920
take an inventory of what your relationship looks

01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.680
like. Yeah. You know, Oh, have you tried this?

01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:51.640
Have you tried this? Oh, well, you know, we're

01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.579
not the best at that, but we know people that

01:14:54.579 --> 01:14:58.020
are, you know, I mean, again, we know, we know

01:14:58.020 --> 01:15:00.140
couples, we know another couple right now that

01:15:00.140 --> 01:15:03.340
they're getting trained. To be like parent coaches.

01:15:03.640 --> 01:15:06.279
Yes. That's not the word. That's not the title.

01:15:06.500 --> 01:15:08.819
It's family coaching. Family coaching. It's like

01:15:08.819 --> 01:15:10.000
I couldn't remember what it was. They're like

01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:11.920
teaching people how to be better parents. That's

01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:14.579
awesome. Yes. You know, but again, it's one of

01:15:14.579 --> 01:15:16.899
those things that it's like we've already had

01:15:16.899 --> 01:15:19.100
conversations with this couple that says, hey,

01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:23.899
we're good at relationship coaching. You guys

01:15:23.899 --> 01:15:26.060
are good at family and parenting coaching. Yes.

01:15:26.300 --> 01:15:32.020
If need be, we can team up. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yep.

01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:38.739
So, yeah. So, it's like we know that there's

01:15:38.739 --> 01:15:42.539
help. Yeah. It's getting past ourselves to ask

01:15:42.539 --> 01:15:46.760
for help. Yeah. It's getting past ourselves to

01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:48.939
remember that there are people out there that

01:15:48.939 --> 01:15:54.460
are cheering for us. Yeah. As much as there are

01:15:54.460 --> 01:15:56.399
people out there that I don't get along with.

01:15:58.940 --> 01:16:01.159
I can't think of a single person on this earth

01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:04.939
that I genuinely hope that they do not succeed.

01:16:06.460 --> 01:16:10.439
That's good. That's good. I mean, technically,

01:16:10.460 --> 01:16:12.680
we should all be like that as Christians. Amen.

01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:15.399
As decent human beings, we should be like that.

01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.539
Unfortunately, I don't always think that. I'll

01:16:18.539 --> 01:16:23.100
just be real. You know, I'm not saying that.

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And then I have to catch myself. Yeah. I mean,

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again, I'm not saying that I'm wishing that they'd

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be massively successful, but I'm never wishing

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for their failure. Yeah. That's good. That's

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good. So, yeah. Do you think I answered that?

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Do you think I hit it? I am nodding. Sorry. I

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am nodding and not responding. Yeah. That's good,

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babe. That's good. I think I came up with a title

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for this too. I saw you writing. I didn't see

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it, but I... Step up and take aim. And on that

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note, have the best week. Enjoy the journey.