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Hello and welcome back to another episode of

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Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dean'na. Hey

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babe. Hey babe. You're busy playing on your phone.

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I'm not playing, I'm looking up scripture. And

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the next thing you start talking and I'm like,

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I was not. You even asked me, babe, are you ready?

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I'm ready. And now I'm like looking and I, oh,

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see, it's the video. It's coming. Yeah. We are

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even closer now to video than what we were before.

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Yes. Because, babe, what did you put in Amazon

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cart and I bought? We got computer components

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and lights. So, yeah. So we've got two cameras.

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We got the cables. We've got the computer set

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up. We got the cameras. I already said cameras.

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You got another camera, though. Got another camera

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for Sebastian. Yeah, got another camera for Sebastian.

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Because you guys have a project that you're going

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to be working on. Because that's going to be

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an interesting little project, yeah. I'm very

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excited. Thank you for turning this down all

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of a sudden. Yeah, earlier we were talking, and

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it's like, wow, that's really awesome. Yeah,

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let's hear each other. And I'm like, that's really

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loud. It's really loud. I feel like I'm yelling

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at you. Why are you screaming at me right now?

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But you and Sebastian are going to be doing a

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project soon. Yes. Because one of our amazing

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friends gave him an amazing idea. And he wants

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to run with it. And so, okay, let's run with

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it. Let's see what happens. We're going to see

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what happens. I'm stoked. Yeah. I'm personally

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stoked. We're just kind of watching all of these

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things just kind of, okay, God, what's up to

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you? Like, congratulations, you have a new car.

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Yes. Congratulations. We have business cards

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coming. Yeah. I don't know why I say congratulations,

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but I think it's just in my mind, I'm like, we've

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had a lot of y 'all and friends and family, different

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ones that have been kind of. uh, keeping up with

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us, finding out what we're doing. We've got some

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friends that are like, come move this way, come

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move this way, be closer to us. Other friends

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are like, no, you will never move. You will always

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be here. It's like, I almost, I almost want to

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say we have friends that are passively cheering

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us on. And the reason I say that is because they're,

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they're, they're encouraging, they're cheering

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us on, but they're not like, because we're not

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a hundred percent there. at the starting line

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i mean we are but like i don't know it feels

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like the excitement's there the anticipation's

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there the the encouragement is there but it's

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not like full -throated like it's not like you

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know it's like all the excitement of like getting

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ready for the race and then all of a sudden it's

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like the starting gun hasn't gone off so it's

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like So it's like all that preparatory encouragement,

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if you will. Yeah. No, I hear what you're saying.

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I think it's how you look at it. Ooh. I think

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it's all in the perspective. Because in my brain,

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that gun went off a long time ago. Yeah. Way

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back here, like, hey, I want you to start this

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podcast. Now I want you to go get your certifications

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for relationship coaching. Hey, I want you to

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go and I want you to speak and I want you to

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be part of this event. And then it's like, hey,

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I want you to even sit in front of couples and,

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you know, give advice. You apparently have. pulled

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back the curtain now to your new co -workers

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because you have moved positions yeah change

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teams same position change teams yeah and so

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you have pulled the curtain back and let them

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know what we do and now yeah now they're like

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soliciting me for advice everybody wants to know

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like to the point where yeah to the point where

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one one co -worker was like you need to fix my

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husband i'm like no No, I know. I'm like, I know

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your husband. He's a cool guy. Yeah. No, that's

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not how this works. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Which

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is, which was funny. Cause when you were working

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with him, he's like, fix it. Yeah. Fix it. I

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mean, he didn't so much fix it. It was more of

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just, why? Yeah. Why is this? Why is this? Why

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does this happen? And then you would get me involved.

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Well, I say you get me involved. I would. I would

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share how my day went and some of the conversations.

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And he was gracious enough to hear what I had

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to say and go, I don't think I even thought about

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it like that. So it's encouraging to know that

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there has been enough groundwork done. Again,

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the... The gun that has gone off and you're like,

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you know, cause we're not like running hard.

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I literally feel like the tortoise and the hare

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and we are the tortoise and we are just, we are

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steadily intentionally moving forward and taking

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ground by doing the little things to build the

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foundation, to do this stuff. We're being obedient.

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We're just being obedient and doing what it is

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that we feel that God is telling us to do each

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step of the way. And each step of the way, he

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meets us. And each step of the way, it feels

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like just a little bit more. He goes, okay, nope,

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nope. Do you trust me? I know this may not make

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sense or nope. do you trust me? I know you don't

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see the big picture, but Oh, do you trust me?

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And it's like, no, I do trust you. I do trust

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you. And it's like, sometimes you and I will

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sit there and look at each other and we won't

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say a word. And then there's other days where

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we look at each other and we'll say the quiet

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parts out loud. And then there's other days where

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it's like, I have absolutely no idea. No idea.

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None. When are you guys doing bubble? No idea.

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No, that is not something he has told us today.

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Yeah. Well, well, are you seeking him out? Okay.

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I want to punch you in the throat now because

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like, yeah, totally seeking him out. But yeah,

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it's, it's, um, it's, it's, I like it. I like

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the journey he has us on. Yeah. It's, it's building

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the momentum. It's like being in the gym where

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you do kind of this, the warmups, you do the,

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you know, the, the PT, the stuff before it's

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like you start running. yeah and it's even like

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when you say that like it's like it's in the

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gym even when you when you are at the gym and

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and even if you're faithful you know it's like

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you've been it it feels like you're not going

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anywhere because you keep lifting the same weight

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but yet you're secretly getting stronger not

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secretly but quietly yeah getting stronger yeah

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you know and and it's like you don't realize

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that you are and all of a sudden oh maybe I am

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yeah I mean something comes in front of you either

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it's an opposition or an opportunity and then

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you go from second guessing like do I even have

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anything to whoa I don't think I realize that

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this whole time I've been building my stamina

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and this is yeah here we go yeah yeah I love

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that Okay. Well, that was just kind of a weird

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randomness of stuff. Not really. But here it

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is. I was going to say it wasn't really random.

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It was like, here's where we're at. Yeah. Yeah.

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It's good. Yeah. So what are we talking about

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today? So I'm going to call today no changing.

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No changing. Right. Okay. So. What does that

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mean? Because it almost. It's kind of tongue

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-in -cheek for me because I know a lot of our

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talk. We talk a lot how change is good, how change

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is inevitable. Growth is good. Being uncomfortable

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in those seasons, that is good because you want

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growth. Again, it can be uncomfortable to lift

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heavy weights. It can hurt. You know, and it's

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there's that growth. There's that change. There's

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that, you know, that that process. So change

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is good. Change is a welcome thing. Right. But

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I wanted to call it no changing. Kind of kind

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of like I said, kind of tongue in cheek. But

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I wanted to say, no, you can't change your spouse.

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Right. Because that's kind of what I wanted to.

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I mean, not just me. I mean, we've been talking

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about this a little bit off and on for the past

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week or so. Right. And so it is. That's what

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I wanted to call it because I think that's the

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best thing to remind people is you can't change

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your spouse. Who your spouse is when you meet

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them, that's who they are. That's who they're

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going to be. You can't change them. Only they

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can decide to change themselves, and truly only

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God can change them. Right, right. So it's that

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little fun reminder. Yeah. So I know that there

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was a couple of scenarios that came to the surface

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that made us even have this conversation. Yeah.

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And one of them was hearing a couple basically

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fight. over a scenario. And with the scenario,

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this is something that the wife got very upset

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with the husband. And we're standing back and

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we're watching this and hearing this and going,

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wait a minute, this is something that you've

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known about this person for the whole duration.

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Yeah, and we could say this about so many couples

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that we don't know because this is a... It is

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more common than not. Right. And I know that

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I literally even put something on Facebook, two

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different things, actually. And it was talking

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about the argumentative wife and that there's

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no man that wants to be with an argumentative

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wife. And I know that we in the past have heard

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it said and have said it ourselves that no man

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wants to sleep with his mother. Because if you

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are somebody that is constantly bickering and

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griping and harping on your husband, you're basically

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becoming his mom as opposed to his counterpart,

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somebody that he can come alongside with and

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grow something with. And so too many times we

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have seen where the very thing that this person

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is trying to change is the very thing that you

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fell in love with. Because I know time and time

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again, like even in our own story, me stepping

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back and having to pray and ask God to give me

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wisdom because there were certain things, qualities,

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personality traits that you have. And I remember

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literally Holy Spirit like really pressing on

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me and basically saying, if you try to change

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him, you will destroy him. And I think too many

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times, and this goes both ways. It's not just

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a husband to a wife or a wife to a husband. This

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goes both ways. A lot of times, what happens,

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the thing that changes when you become man and

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wife is now you are with this person on a greater

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basis than you were before. If you were not like...

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together before if you weren't living together

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before but even then i believe that something

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shifts in the atmosphere something shifts in

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the spirit realm to where it's like when you

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go from boyfriend girlfriend even engaged to

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husband and wife like all of a sudden the certain

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little nuances and the the quirks of who your

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person is the things that you found enduring

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almost become a little bit more amplified and

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can potentially grade if you're not careful.

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Yeah. And I think also part of it is that whole,

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as much as we talk about, you know, don't read,

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you know, nobody's a mind reader, you know, how

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much of their, or how much is it out there that

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people are like, well, now that we're married,

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they should know. Well, now that we're married,

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they should stop that. Right. Now that we're

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married, they should now start doing that because

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we're married. They should know that this absolutely

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irritates me. No, that's not how this works.

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That's not how this works. If they didn't do

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this beforehand, if you knew that they never

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separated their laundry, their dirty clothes

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before tossing them in the washer, just because

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you're magically married now doesn't mean that,

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oh, they're now going to sort their clothes.

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No, no, that's not how that works. Are you secretly

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trying to tell me something? Nope, not at all.

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I am not secretly saying anything because I will

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tell you that doesn't bother me because I'm the

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kind of person that I'm like, look, they're all

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dirty. Throw them in the cold. They're all the

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same. They all get washed the same. Unless it's

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something that it's like, oh, this has to be

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washed separate or this has to be washed special.

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It needs bleach or something. like with my bjj

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my gi it's like okay that has to go in the gentle

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and it hangs dry by itself right so it's like

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okay we're obviously not throwing that in with

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my underwear and socks okay cool but i don't

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i don't i don't care all i came thinking is good

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to know yeah i did not know this that's good

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yeah um but again that's kind of why i i take

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care of it i toss it in but um You know, but

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again, it's those things that, you know, how

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many spouses are out there and they're like,

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they'll quote unquote put up with something,

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behavior, attitude, personality, and just they

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have it set in their mind that, well, as soon

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as we get married, this will stop. Right. This

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will change as soon as we're married. Or I can

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change them. Yeah, that too. If I'm hanging out

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with me and if I nag them enough or if I gripe

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enough or if I, you know, if I show them the

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way. If I show them the way enough, then they

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will be better at this. And it's like, I think,

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can some of that happen? Yeah. Is it better to,

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number one, have a conversation? Yeah. Hey, babe,

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guess what? This kind of grates my gears a bit

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when you do X, Y, Z. Yeah. And it's like, oh.

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that that even bothered

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you. That didn't seem to bother you before. Well,

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again, A, we weren't living together. We weren't

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married, doing all of the things. So I didn't

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know how you squeezed your toothpaste. Or I didn't

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know that, oh, you don't close the lid on the

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toilet bowl. And could you do this for me? Because

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this just helps. And I am speaking out of my

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space because that is. was my thing. That was

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the conversation we had. Yeah. I was like, would

00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:03.419
you mind closing the toilet seat and the bowl

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or the lid for me? And it's like, okay. And I

00:16:06.379 --> 00:16:09.000
said, you know what? It just looks nicer and

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it doesn't have all the weird germs and the things.

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Yeah. No problem. Yeah. And it's like, cause

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ultimately I didn't care. You didn't care. And

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it was like, and I think too many times it's

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like nine out of 10 times your person probably

00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:23.379
is not going to care. Yes. You know? And if it's

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something that is very. It's just ingrained in

00:16:27.009 --> 00:16:29.110
them. Number one, it's going to take a second

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to break a habit. Or number two, this may be

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something that they just go, this is just honestly

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who I am and it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

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It's like I would almost say start with not even

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so much the things that get on your nerves or

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bother you, whatever. Even just if it's something

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like asking in a polite and respectful way of,

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why do you do that? You know, without being weird.

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Hey, can you explain why do you fold your shirts

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like this? Maybe that was our first conversation.

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It was several of our first conversations. Why

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do you do that? What possessed you? You know,

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but it is. I think, A, you need to sometimes

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have the conversation of why do you do this or

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why is this? But also, for some of these things,

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hey is this important to you that's good you

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know like the toilet lid yeah it's like oh this

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you care about this yeah i don't yeah i could

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do this yes yeah you know it's like it's not

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a thing in my world right you know i mean you've

00:17:38.859 --> 00:17:41.420
you've been to my parents house it is it is not

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a thing that i grew up with no no but i love

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how funny side note since you said that yeah

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i love that Since that is a thing in our world,

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it has bled over and it's become a thing in your

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parents' world. Is it? Yeah, because I will walk

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in and that toilet, all the lids are... I was

00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:08.099
just there yesterday cleaning. Everybody's toilet,

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except the downstairs downstairs one, all the

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toilets were closed. Nice. And they bought soft

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closing toilet seats. Because that's what it

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is in our world. And they were tired of hearing

00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:26.839
their grandson slam the toilet seats. Because

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that's what we do. And our children do that.

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You close the toilet seat. That's just what you

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do. But it is. But it does. I think that's a

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big part of it. Is this important to you? Again,

00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:46.160
another one of our favorite examples is my shirts,

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my t -shirts. It's like, it's enough important

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to me. Will the world end if it doesn't happen?

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No, not at all. It is not that life or death

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changing important to me. Right. But it's a preference.

00:19:00.819 --> 00:19:03.940
Yeah. And it's like, yeah, I have no problem

00:19:03.940 --> 00:19:10.799
doing this. Yeah. And it's enough of an importance

00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:16.519
to you to where you want to do it. If it doesn't

00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.660
get done the way that you like it to be done,

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you'll just redo it and get it done yourself.

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And that's not you trying to be slighted with

00:19:27.660 --> 00:19:29.940
me, not trying to be rude. It's just like, this

00:19:29.940 --> 00:19:32.880
is important to me, baby. See, I'm having a struggle.

00:19:33.259 --> 00:19:37.140
I mean, we've talked about this before. My hands

00:19:37.140 --> 00:19:42.240
don't do that. I literally, my mind is backwards

00:19:42.240 --> 00:19:47.579
on this. I can't do that. um another thing that

00:19:47.579 --> 00:19:50.660
I know that like even conversations that our

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daughter has had in in past and even for future

00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:58.509
spouse like Well, Mom, there's some things that

00:19:58.509 --> 00:20:01.309
I don't want to have to explain, like why she

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will have a certain pillowcase because of the

00:20:04.450 --> 00:20:06.230
texture of her hair, things like that. Well,

00:20:06.269 --> 00:20:08.430
I'd rather not have that conversation. I'd rather

00:20:08.430 --> 00:20:10.529
have somebody know. And in my mind, I'm thinking,

00:20:10.650 --> 00:20:13.269
sweetheart, even if somebody has the same textured

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hair as you or comes from the same similar background

00:20:16.730 --> 00:20:21.089
as you, it's not a guarantee that somebody's

00:20:21.089 --> 00:20:23.650
going to know. Military background, it's not

00:20:23.650 --> 00:20:25.740
a guarantee that somebody's going to. to know

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you know it it's it's having you keep saying

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it why why is this important to you yeah why

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why do you deem this something that that seems

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to bother you if it doesn't get done a certain

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way yeah why is this and it's like if we if we

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just take the time to understand a regardless

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of somebody's background their culture their

00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:54.059
history even female their gender whatever the

00:20:54.059 --> 00:20:57.180
fact is that this is you know well that should

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be important to you no it's not i'm a person

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i'm an individual you know i'm not i'm not just

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this one thing yeah and i think when we come

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into that space and give people people license

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and permission to to ask questions to be able

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to say oh, I didn't know that, or, well, that

00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:22.940
might be important to you, but not to me, you

00:21:22.940 --> 00:21:25.819
know, to give them permission to be who they're

00:21:25.819 --> 00:21:30.140
created to be or who they are, then I think that's

00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:32.299
when you get to come into the world of compromise

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and learning. Like, babe, why do you do this?

00:21:36.299 --> 00:21:38.859
Oh, well, I do this because this is how I was

00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:41.819
taught in the military. Okay, well, I have enough

00:21:41.819 --> 00:21:45.180
military people in my family to know that that's

00:21:45.180 --> 00:21:51.210
not always the case. I do not believe that my

00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:56.049
brother does stuff like that. My brother, according

00:21:56.049 --> 00:21:57.849
to my sister -in -law, and I'm not throwing you

00:21:57.849 --> 00:22:00.569
under the bus, Bobby, I'm really not, but it's

00:22:00.569 --> 00:22:02.589
like, according to my sister -in -law, my brother

00:22:02.589 --> 00:22:04.769
doesn't even do laundry, so it's like any part

00:22:04.769 --> 00:22:08.089
of it, and that's their dance, and that's cool

00:22:08.089 --> 00:22:13.529
with them, but in my mind, I'm like, it's a preference.

00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:19.359
It's a personal preference. Because I think also

00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:24.039
I want to kind of come back to like some things

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that I know I started to steer away from it.

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But it's like I almost want to go back to, you

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know, behaviors, personalities, stuff like that.

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And it's like, you know, if this isn't something

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that you think you'll get along with. Come on.

00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.559
if this is something that it's like it really,

00:22:43.660 --> 00:22:46.759
you know, and this is why, you know, when we've

00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:50.759
had conversations with, with young people that

00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:53.380
have come into our, our sphere of influence and

00:22:53.380 --> 00:22:56.539
they're like, you know, and we talk about, you

00:22:56.539 --> 00:23:00.480
know, go ahead and, and work out your, your list

00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.039
of like expectations, your list of standards,

00:23:03.140 --> 00:23:06.660
you know, don't list. My perfect spouse will

00:23:06.660 --> 00:23:09.559
look like this and talk like this and do this

00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:11.259
for a job and earn this much money. It's like,

00:23:11.299 --> 00:23:14.140
no, no. Set the expectations of how you want

00:23:14.140 --> 00:23:16.000
them to act, how you want them to treat you,

00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:20.180
their character, stuff like that. Because at

00:23:20.180 --> 00:23:24.140
the end of the day, that's the stuff that really

00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:25.859
matters. That's the stuff that's going to get

00:23:25.859 --> 00:23:28.140
you through the day -to -day. And if they don't

00:23:28.140 --> 00:23:32.500
have those things when you're courting, when

00:23:32.500 --> 00:23:36.119
you're dating. When you're engaged. It's like.

00:23:37.259 --> 00:23:39.720
Are you sure you want to be with this person.

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If they don't have. If they're not up to your

00:23:43.140 --> 00:23:46.279
standards. Or they're not. They don't have the

00:23:46.279 --> 00:23:48.079
kind of character. That you want them to have.

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Are you sure you want to spend your life. With

00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:53.900
this person. Thinking well I can change them.

00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.980
Or I'm sure they'll change. Once we get married.

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It's like they won't. Or even if I just give

00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:04.380
them enough time. Right. In some case scenarios,

00:24:04.660 --> 00:24:07.980
I would say, yes, there's time. Okay. When you

00:24:07.980 --> 00:24:10.319
and I got married, I had my own little cleaning

00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:12.099
business and I was working at a news station.

00:24:12.460 --> 00:24:15.240
You were a full -time college student. Yes. You

00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:19.160
did bring something to the party. You weren't

00:24:19.160 --> 00:24:21.619
just a deadbeat person at all. You weren't. You

00:24:21.619 --> 00:24:24.500
were working towards something. Yeah. Right.

00:24:24.599 --> 00:24:30.180
But to have that understanding of even the conversations

00:24:30.180 --> 00:24:32.829
of, hey, babe. Where do you see yourself in the

00:24:32.829 --> 00:24:36.170
next five years? Yeah. What's your goal? What

00:24:36.170 --> 00:24:41.170
is it that you desire right now? Not like you

00:24:41.170 --> 00:24:42.890
have to have your whole life planned out, but

00:24:42.890 --> 00:24:45.450
what is it ultimately? What direction do you

00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:47.589
want to go in? Yeah. Where are you trying to

00:24:47.589 --> 00:24:51.150
go eventually? Or where would you like to land?

00:24:51.789 --> 00:24:56.690
And I think when you have character and you walk

00:24:56.690 --> 00:25:01.559
in integrity and you're consistent. Yeah. in

00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:05.039
certain spaces, potentially in, in like the,

00:25:05.099 --> 00:25:07.539
the spaces that really matter. Like, you know,

00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:09.660
you are somebody that you're, you're a person

00:25:09.660 --> 00:25:12.019
of your word. What you say, you do, you do, you

00:25:12.019 --> 00:25:16.079
say, okay. Um, you, you did not have a job, but

00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:20.680
you came and you worked with me and we, we got

00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:22.480
things taken care of and we built a business.

00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:25.339
You helped build that business with me too. Right.

00:25:25.420 --> 00:25:28.880
And do the things. And it's like to see the potential.

00:25:30.190 --> 00:25:32.250
I know that we've said don't marry the potential

00:25:32.250 --> 00:25:35.970
of the person, but when you see what this person

00:25:35.970 --> 00:25:39.170
is capable, there we go, what they're capable

00:25:39.170 --> 00:25:42.710
of doing based off of what they've already done,

00:25:42.930 --> 00:25:45.849
not what you think that they're capable, what

00:25:45.849 --> 00:25:48.470
their potential is to do. I think maybe there's

00:25:48.470 --> 00:25:51.009
a difference there. Well, I think also it's,

00:25:51.009 --> 00:25:53.670
in my mind, what it sounds like you're trying

00:25:53.670 --> 00:25:57.769
to say is it's almost like you recognize the

00:25:57.769 --> 00:26:01.089
character. Yeah. And it wasn't the potential

00:26:01.089 --> 00:26:04.170
of, oh my gosh, if I marry him, one day he'll

00:26:04.170 --> 00:26:06.609
make six figures or one day he'll have this kind

00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:08.569
of job or we'll have this kind of house. But

00:26:08.569 --> 00:26:11.509
it was, you saw the character, you saw the work

00:26:11.509 --> 00:26:16.430
ethic, you saw the willingness to get dirty and

00:26:16.430 --> 00:26:20.329
do the work. So it's like, okay, if he does this

00:26:20.329 --> 00:26:23.450
now, when we're not pulling in a whole ton of

00:26:23.450 --> 00:26:28.460
money, this is the kind of character. That's

00:26:28.460 --> 00:26:31.700
going to get us through those lean times. The

00:26:31.700 --> 00:26:35.839
hard times. The hard times. Yeah. For sicker,

00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:39.420
for poorer. Yep. The cold nights. We've been

00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:43.059
through all of them. All of them. You know. Yeah.

00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.680
So I think that's kind of what you were getting

00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.180
at. Yeah. Like I said, that's what I heard. Yeah.

00:26:49.180 --> 00:26:52.079
Because if you're somebody that feels like you

00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.859
have to harp on this person in order to get things

00:26:56.859 --> 00:27:00.970
done. Yes. Um, and in it, there's a difference

00:27:00.970 --> 00:27:04.490
between a babe. Would you mind helping me around

00:27:04.490 --> 00:27:09.069
the house a little bit? Yeah, sure. Or they see

00:27:09.069 --> 00:27:12.309
that I'm my favorite scenario, right? At the

00:27:12.309 --> 00:27:14.569
very beginning, like I'm vacuuming around you,

00:27:14.609 --> 00:27:16.990
I'm cleaning around you and you're just, you're

00:27:16.990 --> 00:27:18.769
sitting, you're, I think you were watching TV

00:27:18.769 --> 00:27:20.529
or playing a game or something and you're just,

00:27:20.549 --> 00:27:23.509
you weren't doing anything. You're just, you

00:27:23.509 --> 00:27:27.170
weren't doing anything. And I was like, just.

00:27:28.139 --> 00:27:31.000
increasingly getting more and more angry as opposed

00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.779
to just, could you help me? Would you, would

00:27:33.779 --> 00:27:36.079
you mind helping me? Yeah. What would you, what

00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:41.859
do you need? Not realizing, you know, like there's

00:27:41.859 --> 00:27:45.240
a difference between realizing and understanding

00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:50.119
because it's like, I feel like I'm throwing you

00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.420
under the bus. That's fine. That's fine. No,

00:27:52.500 --> 00:27:54.359
no, no. But it's just a good, it's a good example

00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.579
because it's like, I had a cleaning business.

00:27:57.339 --> 00:28:00.819
You did not come from a family that, that. That

00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:02.720
wasn't a high priority. That is not a high. I

00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.220
think that's a good way of saying that. Yeah.

00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.220
Because they're not filthy. No. Like nobody in

00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:09.700
your house is filthy. Yeah. It's just, it's,

00:28:09.700 --> 00:28:15.019
oh, okay. Like. And, and I'll, I'll say I grew

00:28:15.019 --> 00:28:19.319
up on the weekends, like one day of the weekend.

00:28:20.980 --> 00:28:23.160
That's when my mom would clean the house. Yeah.

00:28:23.299 --> 00:28:26.769
It was just my mom. So it wasn't taught. Right.

00:28:27.069 --> 00:28:31.970
Yes, my sister and I were told to make sure our

00:28:31.970 --> 00:28:33.910
rooms were picked up so they weren't a total

00:28:33.910 --> 00:28:37.950
pigsty. Hey, at least make sure I have a path

00:28:37.950 --> 00:28:40.230
from the door to your bed. Okay, cool. There

00:28:40.230 --> 00:28:43.289
will be a path. I was the same kid. I get it.

00:28:43.569 --> 00:28:48.129
But it was my mom that cleaned the house. It

00:28:48.129 --> 00:28:50.089
wasn't, hey, we're all going to get together

00:28:50.089 --> 00:28:53.029
and clean the house. My mom would put on her

00:28:53.029 --> 00:28:56.789
ABBA or her carpenter's record and she would

00:28:56.789 --> 00:28:59.910
clean the house. She would water the plants and

00:28:59.910 --> 00:29:02.730
that's what she did. That would be either Saturday

00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:08.049
afternoon or Sunday afternoon. That was it. Here

00:29:08.049 --> 00:29:12.490
I am, an adult now, and that's not where my brain

00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:14.509
goes. My brain doesn't go, oh, it's Saturday,

00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:17.759
it's time to clean the house. It was never taught.

00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.240
Right. And so I think that that's the whole point,

00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.059
right? Like we stand back and we want to look

00:29:23.059 --> 00:29:27.619
at some of our listeners and say, find out these

00:29:27.619 --> 00:29:31.319
answers to these questions. You know, like, is

00:29:31.319 --> 00:29:35.480
this who, hey, just out of randomness, when you

00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.960
guys cleaned the house when you were growing

00:29:37.960 --> 00:29:40.980
up, what do you mean we? My mom is the one that

00:29:40.980 --> 00:29:43.599
did it. Right. Oh, see, that should tell you

00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.180
everything, right? Like those things. Our house

00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:49.039
was, I cleaned the house when I was a kid growing

00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.039
up. I was the one that cleaned it, and my mom

00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:53.119
and my dad would be the ones that would be outside

00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.319
doing the lawn. Okay, yeah. And so it's like

00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:02.099
after I finally got broken of having an atrocious

00:30:02.099 --> 00:30:05.900
room and everything. So funny. My room was always

00:30:05.900 --> 00:30:08.400
trashed, but the rest of the house, everything

00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.920
had its space and place. But it's one of those

00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.539
things where... have these conversations. And

00:30:17.539 --> 00:30:20.240
if that is not something that is high priority

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:27.299
for your spouse, don't expect it to become a

00:30:27.299 --> 00:30:31.519
high priority. If it's something that you see

00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:35.240
like, okay, you know what? This isn't your forte.

00:30:35.460 --> 00:30:37.900
This is not something that you're good at. You

00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:41.880
don't seem to have an anointing for doing this

00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:46.029
particular project. Yeah. But you know what?

00:30:46.069 --> 00:30:48.609
If, if you could just come and you could be in

00:30:48.609 --> 00:30:52.349
this space with me or if you could just help

00:30:52.349 --> 00:30:55.289
me in. Okay. So you don't want to clean the house.

00:30:55.390 --> 00:30:58.109
Could you at least put your socks in the laundry

00:30:58.109 --> 00:31:02.549
basket? Could you, could you at least do you

00:31:02.549 --> 00:31:05.529
like to do the lawn? Sweet. Can you go do mow

00:31:05.529 --> 00:31:09.339
the lawn for me? Kind of, you know, just. And

00:31:09.339 --> 00:31:11.359
I know that we keep hitting the same things because

00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.319
in my mind I'm struggling to even find out what

00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:16.839
other things would be. But it is that simple.

00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:21.819
It is. And before you go too far down the train

00:31:21.819 --> 00:31:30.980
and then loops. Sorry. I think part of it, though,

00:31:31.059 --> 00:31:34.480
is, you know, again, that recognizing of, well,

00:31:34.500 --> 00:31:37.849
that's not how I am. And so I had a conversation

00:31:37.849 --> 00:31:41.829
with a couple of people and it was the, oh, my,

00:31:42.069 --> 00:31:46.230
you know, my spouse, you know, I've tried to

00:31:46.230 --> 00:31:50.369
do the, I've asked them to do this. And it becomes

00:31:50.369 --> 00:31:53.829
the, well, I asked them, I vocally asked them.

00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:57.089
And then I, a few days later, I text them a reminder

00:31:57.089 --> 00:31:59.730
or I write them a note and then I text them a

00:31:59.730 --> 00:32:01.630
reminder. And if, you know, a week and a half,

00:32:01.650 --> 00:32:03.369
two weeks later, if it's still not done, then

00:32:03.369 --> 00:32:07.250
I just do it. And it's like, I think that needs

00:32:07.250 --> 00:32:10.509
to be a conversation. Yes. Because something's

00:32:10.509 --> 00:32:14.369
not clicking in one or both of you. Because what

00:32:14.369 --> 00:32:18.829
was that one couple? Phenomenal. You know which

00:32:18.829 --> 00:32:22.750
ones I'm talking about. And she said, when you

00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:26.009
ask your spouse to do something, you need to

00:32:26.009 --> 00:32:29.390
follow up with, could you get this done for me

00:32:29.390 --> 00:32:34.000
within such and such amount of time? And I think

00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.279
also, yes, you know, not necessarily give like,

00:32:37.380 --> 00:32:39.980
you know, here's the schedule. But again, you

00:32:39.980 --> 00:32:42.519
know, hey. This is kind of pressing on my brain.

00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.799
Could you? Could you get this done by the weekend

00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:46.980
because we've got something coming up? Yes. You

00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:49.319
know, hey, we're planning a 50th birthday party.

00:32:49.460 --> 00:32:52.059
Hey. Can we make sure that this gets done beforehand?

00:32:52.339 --> 00:32:55.400
Right. Sure. Let's do this. Right. But I think

00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.680
also because I thought of another couple that

00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:05.019
we had a conversation with. And it was the, what

00:33:05.019 --> 00:33:09.980
are you doing or what are they doing when you

00:33:09.980 --> 00:33:12.539
ask them to do something or ask them for help?

00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.759
That's good. Because if you're just in the same

00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.779
room together and you say, hey, can you get this

00:33:19.779 --> 00:33:22.519
done for me? Right. You know, hey, babe, can

00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:26.660
you do this? Yeah. You know, if I don't, I'm

00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:29.539
notorious because I do not have the best ears.

00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:34.339
So we have had several conversations. And you

00:33:34.339 --> 00:33:36.440
have a soft -spoken wife. I have a very soft

00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:39.079
-spoken wife. I grew up in a loud household.

00:33:39.299 --> 00:33:42.099
I played a lot of loud music, and I worked around

00:33:42.099 --> 00:33:44.839
a lot of loud jets. And that's why Jesus is Lord.

00:33:44.900 --> 00:33:48.200
That's why Jesus is Lord. Amen. Shout out from

00:33:48.200 --> 00:33:52.779
the rooftops. But there are times if you don't...

00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:55.319
Like if you don't get my attention first and

00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.160
like, yeah, it's like, get my face, look me in

00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.640
the eyes and okay, now we start the conversation.

00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.980
Yeah. You know, because it, how many times it's

00:34:05.980 --> 00:34:08.579
like, you know, I had a conversation with somebody

00:34:08.579 --> 00:34:12.340
and he, you know, he was like, my, my wife thinks

00:34:12.340 --> 00:34:15.639
that I'm ignoring her because I didn't listen

00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.920
when she said this and she said it, we were in

00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.840
the same room together, but she did. She didn't

00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:25.400
say it directly to me. Right. So I didn't realize

00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.699
she was talking to me. And now. Because there

00:34:27.699 --> 00:34:29.300
was another person. Right. Because there was

00:34:29.300 --> 00:34:32.099
another person in the room. And so he's like,

00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:34.800
now I'm the bad guy because I apparently don't

00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:36.760
remember that she said this. Right. And it's

00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.900
like, yeah. I was like, unless you just have

00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:42.039
the conversation of, hey, grab my attention.

00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:48.380
Yeah. Yeah. Say my name. Say my name. Yeah. Because,

00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:51.039
I mean, especially. I mean, I know women can

00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.360
do it too, but I know guys are more famous for

00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:57.940
it. Guys are really good at just zoning out.

00:34:58.860 --> 00:35:02.519
It's a gift. Yeah. I've determined that it is

00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.139
a gift. And I think that, whew, that's a whole

00:35:05.139 --> 00:35:10.460
other topic in itself. Just the... the differences

00:35:10.460 --> 00:35:13.420
of how we communicate, the way that we go about

00:35:13.420 --> 00:35:16.920
things, the way that we're wired even. I know

00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.079
that there was that one comedian, Christian comedian

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.920
guy, talking about how you guys can compartmentalize

00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:29.559
your thoughts where ours are high. Hardwired.

00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.239
Interconnected. And it looks like something a

00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.460
cat coughed up. Or like a bowl of spaghetti.

00:35:34.460 --> 00:35:37.920
Yeah. Like it's just everything is interwoven.

00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.460
That's why it's so easy for us to start telling

00:35:42.460 --> 00:35:45.760
you a story, but then veer off and tell you 14

00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.159
other subject matters. Or you start the story

00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:54.070
in act two. In act two. We have no intro. that's

00:35:54.070 --> 00:35:57.130
it right like you oh babe and so and this is

00:35:57.130 --> 00:35:58.969
what happened it's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

00:35:58.969 --> 00:36:01.630
what happened i missed the and after that what

00:36:01.630 --> 00:36:05.369
we'll do is we'll go to the store what and and

00:36:05.369 --> 00:36:10.469
i think are there exceptions to the rules absolutely

00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:17.210
absolutely but majority rules on this one that

00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:21.710
this is how men and women think and and you've

00:36:21.710 --> 00:36:26.179
just got You just have to stop insisting that

00:36:26.179 --> 00:36:29.199
your spouse be you. Yeah. Like, like I think

00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.559
that part is what I want to shout from the rooftops

00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.820
because it's like, I'll get nailed. I'll just,

00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:40.320
I'll, I will. send this the sweetest post i think

00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.980
something just something so simplistic and i

00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:46.780
will get hammered against the wall usually by

00:36:46.780 --> 00:36:50.139
the wives because it's like oh well you know

00:36:50.139 --> 00:36:53.019
if they if if if my spouse if they're going to

00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:55.679
put in the same amount of effort then i'll do

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:58.659
and i'm like oh honey like that's not the word

00:36:58.659 --> 00:37:00.780
of god that's not what it says because here's

00:37:00.780 --> 00:37:02.579
even you see where i have something pulled up

00:37:02.579 --> 00:37:04.239
this is what's pulling up whenever you scared

00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:10.480
me So 1 Peter 3, and it's talking about, hold

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:16.579
on, let's see. It's talking about husbands and

00:37:16.579 --> 00:37:19.860
wives, right? And it's like, maybe is this the

00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:24.500
right one? This may not be the right one. We

00:37:24.500 --> 00:37:26.500
need to find it later. We're going to find it

00:37:26.500 --> 00:37:29.599
later. But the scripture that I'm talking about

00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.119
is where it's talking about the wife. being able

00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.400
to win over her husband that is not a Christian,

00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.980
that doesn't believe in God. And the way that

00:37:37.980 --> 00:37:41.760
she does it is not harp about Jesus and not harp

00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.619
about who he is. She serves him. Yeah. She lavishes

00:37:45.619 --> 00:37:49.840
her love upon him. She's a good and a faithful

00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.440
and amazing wife. We're not talking about like

00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.880
a doormat, but we're talking about somebody that

00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.039
just exudes and exemplifies the character of

00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.719
Christ. Yeah. Living out loud. She lives this

00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.059
out loud in front of him. And he's like, kind

00:38:05.059 --> 00:38:07.579
of like you with Tyler, right? Yeah. Next door

00:38:07.579 --> 00:38:10.500
neighbor. I don't know what it is that's so different

00:38:10.500 --> 00:38:12.340
about you, but I want whatever it is that you

00:38:12.340 --> 00:38:15.960
have. Yeah. Like, when we live our lives in such

00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:19.300
a simplistic manner where we're serving each

00:38:19.300 --> 00:38:21.300
other, that we're not taking care of each other

00:38:21.300 --> 00:38:23.519
based off of what we can get out of the deal.

00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.420
We genuinely love this person enough to where,

00:38:26.539 --> 00:38:28.940
I just want to take care of you. I just want

00:38:28.940 --> 00:38:31.940
to, what's going to make you happy today? Yeah.

00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.420
Right? Like, what can I do to make your life

00:38:34.420 --> 00:38:38.889
easier? And it's like. And insisting that that

00:38:38.889 --> 00:38:41.650
person thinks like you, acts like you, talks

00:38:41.650 --> 00:38:45.110
like you, responds like you, has the same mental

00:38:45.110 --> 00:38:48.269
capacity and the same thought process as you.

00:38:48.429 --> 00:38:51.429
Dear God, why did you get married? Yeah. Like,

00:38:51.429 --> 00:38:54.329
why would you do that? You're narcissistic at

00:38:54.329 --> 00:38:57.130
that point in my mind because like you might

00:38:57.130 --> 00:38:59.110
as well just have married you. You're looking

00:38:59.110 --> 00:39:02.489
for somebody that is like you. And you know why?

00:39:02.889 --> 00:39:07.019
Because that's easy. And guess what? Marriage

00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:10.980
isn't easy. The beautiful thing about marriage

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:14.260
is you get to go into this covenant relationship

00:39:14.260 --> 00:39:17.639
with a person that has different thought processes,

00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.420
that has a different, like, just way of going

00:39:21.420 --> 00:39:24.599
about life and seeing things perspective -wise.

00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:28.119
And instead of insisting that they see things

00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.159
from your lens, you need to, you have been gifted.

00:39:32.300 --> 00:39:36.300
this this amazing ability to now see life through

00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:39.340
a different point of view with somebody that

00:39:39.340 --> 00:39:44.519
you know that loves you that you love there's

00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.880
nothing cooler yeah oh yeah there's genuinely

00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:53.460
nothing cooler and if you insist that this person

00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:58.179
comes along and does the same things and responds

00:39:58.179 --> 00:40:01.780
the same way and all of this stuff We all like

00:40:01.780 --> 00:40:04.159
the same food. We all like the same restaurants.

00:40:04.380 --> 00:40:06.440
We all like the same movies. We all like the

00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:07.619
same books. See, that sounds incredibly boring

00:40:07.619 --> 00:40:10.920
to me. Incredibly boring to me. As much as I

00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:13.320
say that now, at the beginning where I'm going,

00:40:13.420 --> 00:40:16.460
dear God, we have nothing in common. And I was

00:40:16.460 --> 00:40:18.860
genuine about it. I don't think it was more so

00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:21.460
like, dear God, we have nothing in common. But

00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:25.099
I think it was honestly more of me standing back

00:40:25.099 --> 00:40:27.280
going, do I even have anything to bring to the

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:31.239
table? I feel very... Out of sorts here. Babe,

00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.639
when you and I first got together and you're

00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:43.559
showing me how incredibly... What am I trying

00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.059
to say? How I came from a world that valued book

00:40:46.059 --> 00:40:51.599
smarts. All the things. Yeah. And I'm... Why

00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:57.000
am I about to cry? I literally stood back and

00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.150
said, what do I have to bring to the table? Yeah.

00:41:00.670 --> 00:41:03.050
And I think that that might just, that just might've

00:41:03.050 --> 00:41:05.389
hit one of our listeners. See, because all of

00:41:05.389 --> 00:41:07.210
a sudden you go, what is it that I have to even

00:41:07.210 --> 00:41:11.730
bring to the table? Like I inadvertently, whether

00:41:11.730 --> 00:41:13.949
you realize it or not, it's like, you're not

00:41:13.949 --> 00:41:18.289
trying to, but subconsciously somehow it's like,

00:41:18.329 --> 00:41:20.949
if I could just bring this person back down to

00:41:20.949 --> 00:41:24.510
this kind of level, then I won't feel so inferior

00:41:24.510 --> 00:41:28.989
or I won't feel so. out of place or it may, or

00:41:28.989 --> 00:41:32.969
it won't stretch me as much. Yeah. I'll stay

00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:35.710
comfortable. There it is. In where I am. Yeah.

00:41:35.769 --> 00:41:38.590
Like all of the above. Yeah. Because it wasn't

00:41:38.590 --> 00:41:40.670
so much that I wasn't wanting to grow with you.

00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:43.949
My thing was, I genuinely didn't think that I

00:41:43.949 --> 00:41:45.829
brought something else to the table for you.

00:41:45.909 --> 00:41:48.469
Yeah. Because in my mind, you had, you were so

00:41:48.469 --> 00:41:51.369
cultured in so many different spaces and places

00:41:51.369 --> 00:41:54.369
that I'm like, I'm just a little girl from Missouri.

00:41:54.510 --> 00:41:59.579
How can I stretch him? Oh, look, look what I

00:41:59.579 --> 00:42:05.539
did. Look what God did. And I think, too, it's,

00:42:05.539 --> 00:42:08.360
you know, kind of part of that is, you know,

00:42:08.360 --> 00:42:11.840
yes, they do. They always say opposites attract

00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.219
and so on and so forth. And, you know, if you're

00:42:14.219 --> 00:42:16.159
not the same person, you always have something

00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.119
new to discover and all that. But I think also

00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.300
there's that fear of what if we're two opposite?

00:42:23.739 --> 00:42:26.599
What if we really have nothing in common? Yeah.

00:42:26.780 --> 00:42:30.000
You know, and, you know, people can work it out.

00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:33.739
Absolutely. I've seen several success stories.

00:42:34.019 --> 00:42:36.719
Yeah. Of people that are complete total polar

00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.840
opposites. Yeah. And they have an amazingly successful

00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.940
marriage. I immediately flashed to, back when

00:42:43.940 --> 00:42:47.199
I was at the news station, there were two journalists.

00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.239
Yeah. One was hardcore Republican. One was hardcore

00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:54.340
Democrat. Yeah. And they were. happily married

00:42:54.340 --> 00:42:56.920
yeah and they learned how to do this they learned

00:42:56.920 --> 00:43:00.420
to put their politics aside and they're just

00:43:00.420 --> 00:43:02.619
who they were yeah but they also brought things

00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:05.380
to the table for each other and said have you

00:43:05.380 --> 00:43:07.940
considered this yeah have you considered that

00:43:07.940 --> 00:43:10.699
i think that's a big portion of it yeah is because

00:43:10.699 --> 00:43:14.900
when you and i first sat down at the table wish

00:43:14.900 --> 00:43:17.420
we had video like i really do wish we had like

00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:21.460
yeah videoed that because it was it wasn't a

00:43:22.090 --> 00:43:26.969
When I genuinely say, because I did, what possessed

00:43:26.969 --> 00:43:30.889
you to do that? It wasn't me trying to. tear

00:43:30.889 --> 00:43:34.690
you down. It was me trying to understand what

00:43:34.690 --> 00:43:38.769
frame of mind were you in when this happened?

00:43:38.969 --> 00:43:43.110
Where were you in your walk? Not even your walk

00:43:43.110 --> 00:43:44.869
with Jesus, because you were a brand new Christian,

00:43:44.929 --> 00:43:48.030
but just your walk in life. Where were you in

00:43:48.030 --> 00:43:50.389
that space? And are you going to go back there

00:43:50.389 --> 00:43:52.530
even though you've got Jesus? That part, right?

00:43:52.670 --> 00:43:56.750
While you were making these decisions, what provoked

00:43:56.750 --> 00:44:00.769
this? to come to the forefront, to the scene.

00:44:00.929 --> 00:44:04.570
Because it's the same with me. Like, you have

00:44:04.570 --> 00:44:08.070
never really flat out asked me. I'm the one that

00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:09.889
will come to you and go, babe, listen to the

00:44:09.889 --> 00:44:11.989
revelation of why I did some of the stupid stuff

00:44:11.989 --> 00:44:15.610
that I did. Dear God, babe, babe, ooh, babe,

00:44:15.710 --> 00:44:22.469
let me tell you why. I was such a jerk. Let me

00:44:22.469 --> 00:44:24.329
tell, you know. I've got a banner for you. Check

00:44:24.329 --> 00:44:27.280
it out. Read this banner. Look. I was this because

00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:31.920
of this, you know, but it's, it's like, I think

00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:33.559
that that's, what's so cool. Cause you get to

00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:37.699
like, start spinning it, spinning it in a way

00:44:37.699 --> 00:44:39.239
to where it's like, when you're looking at this

00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.780
person, you go, I get to learn something different.

00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:46.159
Not just about you, but I get to learn something

00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:49.059
different about life. And you're a child of God.

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.260
You're created in the image of God. I get to

00:44:52.260 --> 00:44:54.340
find out something different about God because

00:44:54.340 --> 00:44:57.159
you get to hold a piece of the puzzle that I

00:44:57.159 --> 00:45:04.699
may not even have. Like, stop. stop like i understand

00:45:04.699 --> 00:45:06.800
the the birds of the feather want to flock together

00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:08.940
and i understand that sometimes it's just easier

00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:10.800
because you're like oh man we got all this history

00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.320
sometimes like i even heard like people say you

00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.360
know from this generation here and age wise and

00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.039
just these are your people and these are your

00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.679
people over here because based off the music

00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:23.559
genre and the way that you've been raised and

00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.900
grown up and stuff and i want to go no that's

00:45:25.900 --> 00:45:29.719
cool yeah are you going to bridge the gap right

00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.440
Are you going to take the next step to bridge

00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:36.320
the great divide? And that just might happen

00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:39.039
to be your spouse. Yeah. Or if it may not be

00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.039
your spouse, that might happen to be your in

00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:43.400
-laws. Or even if you are the same generation.

00:45:43.619 --> 00:45:46.219
Yeah. The fact that y 'all are two different

00:45:46.219 --> 00:45:48.800
personalities. Yeah. From two different sects

00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:51.699
of the place, of the planet. I was raised over

00:45:51.699 --> 00:45:54.360
here. I was raised in Texas. Yeah. You were raised

00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:58.269
over in Nebraska. Yes. Like, that's... As much

00:45:58.269 --> 00:45:59.889
as people go, well, it's not much different.

00:45:59.949 --> 00:46:03.769
Oh, it's a lot different. A lot different. And

00:46:03.769 --> 00:46:05.949
I'm not even a Nebraskan. You're not a Nebraskan.

00:46:05.949 --> 00:46:09.230
You're a Virginian. Yeah. But you're an Air Force

00:46:09.230 --> 00:46:12.469
kid. As a baby, baby. You're like an Air Force

00:46:12.469 --> 00:46:16.530
kid. Yeah. You're actually European. I am. You

00:46:16.530 --> 00:46:20.570
are UK all the way. I really am. And that in

00:46:20.570 --> 00:46:24.929
itself. Is a trip. It's a trip. We're not even

00:46:24.929 --> 00:46:27.690
on the same continent at that point, maybe. But

00:46:27.690 --> 00:46:31.429
people make it work all the time. They do. They

00:46:31.429 --> 00:46:36.789
do. People make it work all the time. I want

00:46:36.789 --> 00:46:40.510
to teach this to our family, to our friends,

00:46:40.730 --> 00:46:46.250
to our children. Stop running after the things

00:46:46.250 --> 00:46:51.550
that are easy. Stop insisting that things...

00:46:51.849 --> 00:46:55.289
constantly be easy. And stop thinking that as

00:46:55.289 --> 00:46:57.210
soon as you get married all things are going

00:46:57.210 --> 00:47:00.789
to fall into place. Like that part. You get to

00:47:00.789 --> 00:47:04.329
spend the rest of your days growing and learning

00:47:04.329 --> 00:47:09.650
this person. And whether this is a thing of you're

00:47:09.650 --> 00:47:12.730
in a marriage or in a relationship or this is

00:47:12.730 --> 00:47:15.190
your friendships. Even the people that God has

00:47:15.190 --> 00:47:19.579
placed in your life to do life with. You get

00:47:19.579 --> 00:47:22.679
to literally stand back and just go, I get to

00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.420
learn something different about you. I get to

00:47:25.420 --> 00:47:28.539
learn something even different about me based

00:47:28.539 --> 00:47:32.119
off of how I respond to you and how I see this.

00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.860
Because it's like, at my birthday, everybody

00:47:36.860 --> 00:47:39.300
was so kind and said so many beautifully amazing

00:47:39.300 --> 00:47:42.920
things, right? And I'm standing there and I'd

00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:47.179
even said it. I was like, you guys helped make

00:47:47.179 --> 00:47:52.099
me, me. Because it's like, I think of Heather

00:47:52.099 --> 00:47:55.179
and Marsha in particular when it comes to people

00:47:55.179 --> 00:47:58.880
that I encounter and women that might be going

00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:01.039
through certain parts of their life or certain

00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.400
journeys that are similar to some of my best

00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:08.219
friends. And I can, because of who they are and

00:48:08.219 --> 00:48:10.599
the relationship that I have with them and the

00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.000
relationship that I know that God has with them,

00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.289
that they are able. I'm able to look at this

00:48:17.289 --> 00:48:20.269
person that's standing in front of me and be

00:48:20.269 --> 00:48:22.849
able to, without a shadow of a doubt, say, I

00:48:22.849 --> 00:48:25.429
absolutely know what God is capable of. Yeah.

00:48:26.110 --> 00:48:29.690
Because have you met my friend? Yeah. Because

00:48:29.690 --> 00:48:34.849
it's possible, right? And it's like having a

00:48:34.849 --> 00:48:36.929
greater understanding of your spouse and looking

00:48:36.929 --> 00:48:40.250
at your spouse and saying, oh, I recognize this

00:48:40.250 --> 00:48:42.670
personality because this is my husband. Yeah.

00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:47.719
Okay, so that means I'm going to use the tools

00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:51.300
that I know to use in how I can communicate with

00:48:51.300 --> 00:48:55.639
him in an effective, respectful manner. I can

00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.019
now use these tools to help hopefully, respectfully,

00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.800
and effectively communicate with this person.

00:49:01.980 --> 00:49:04.619
Because you have told me you have people at your

00:49:04.619 --> 00:49:07.440
work that you go, yeah, it's just like you, babe.

00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:10.800
Yeah. This person is you. Yeah. And now you know

00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.849
how to communicate. Yeah. As opposed to, why

00:49:13.849 --> 00:49:18.570
are you an idiot? Yeah. Or, hey, there's this

00:49:18.570 --> 00:49:20.550
person at work that reminds me a whole lot of

00:49:20.550 --> 00:49:22.210
this person that we know at church. That's it.

00:49:22.269 --> 00:49:24.369
That can rub people the wrong way. Come on. If

00:49:24.369 --> 00:49:28.849
X, Y, and Z happen. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like,

00:49:28.969 --> 00:49:31.210
okay. Well, once you learn to talk that language

00:49:31.210 --> 00:49:35.300
and you know, okay. oh, he's not really a jerk.

00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:37.679
He's just a jerk to people that are pretentious

00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.119
and conceited and think they know everything

00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.880
even though they don't. Oh, okay. If you actually

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.659
go up to him and say, hey, I want to learn and

00:49:44.659 --> 00:49:47.480
I genuinely want to learn, I want to know. Oh,

00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:49.659
they're the kindest person in the world. Oh,

00:49:49.659 --> 00:49:54.539
sweet. Cool. Yep. Yep. Shout out. Yep. That's

00:49:54.539 --> 00:49:58.260
it. But that's it. It is. It's that space. And

00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:04.769
so it's no changing. Yeah. No changing. Like

00:50:04.769 --> 00:50:07.829
I like that. Yeah. It is. It's a no changing.

00:50:07.989 --> 00:50:11.590
It's stepping into the arena with this person

00:50:11.590 --> 00:50:15.869
and saying, if there is something that needs

00:50:15.869 --> 00:50:18.170
to be taken care of and there needs to be something

00:50:18.170 --> 00:50:20.449
that needs to be addressed, we understand those

00:50:20.449 --> 00:50:24.510
kind of things. Yeah. Right? But do it out of

00:50:24.510 --> 00:50:29.030
a spirit of humility, out of a heart of love,

00:50:29.170 --> 00:50:36.719
and out of... An attitude of, hey, we are going

00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:40.300
to make it to the other side. Yeah. It just may

00:50:40.300 --> 00:50:43.840
not look the way that I think it is. So what

00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:48.360
way can I help better serve you to make this

00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:53.119
better? Yeah. That's what it is. That's what

00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:58.260
it's about. Yep. I love that. That's good. Is

00:50:58.260 --> 00:51:00.960
that good? Yeah, I think so. I love that. You

00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.820
keep yawning. I'll just call it out. You keep

00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:06.860
yawning. Yeah, I do. I do keep yawning. I do.

00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.400
It's been a big day. It has been a big day. It's

00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:15.739
been a big week. It's been a big month. I know.

00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:19.000
We're still starting off of May. Yeah. Because

00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:22.380
it did. It started at the beginning of May. Yeah.

00:51:22.460 --> 00:51:25.699
End of April. The very end of April. Dang. Yeah.

00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:29.619
We've just been running. It feels like we've

00:51:29.619 --> 00:51:31.840
just been running so hard for the past like 45

00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.659
days. Yeah. I mean, some of it's been good. I

00:51:36.659 --> 00:51:38.300
mean, yes, we went to a funeral. That was not

00:51:38.300 --> 00:51:40.980
good. We went to a funeral. We went to a wedding.

00:51:41.139 --> 00:51:43.199
Yeah. The wedding was good. Wedding was good.

00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.780
We had a birthday. Yeah. Celebrated Mother's

00:51:46.780 --> 00:51:49.900
Day. Two birthdays. Two birthdays we did. Yeah.

00:51:50.619 --> 00:51:52.579
Celebrated our anniversary. Celebrated our anniversary.

00:51:52.579 --> 00:51:54.000
I was like, there's one more thing. Quiet celebration.

00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:58.079
Yep. it was a quiet it was the end of school

00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.619
you subbed for almost two weeks straight yeah

00:52:01.619 --> 00:52:07.679
changing job positions yeah or job duties yeah

00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:11.739
yeah it's I'm telling you the past 45 days got

00:52:11.739 --> 00:52:14.739
a new car I mean this is and it is it's like

00:52:14.739 --> 00:52:17.340
you're like okay our friends are like you know

00:52:17.340 --> 00:52:22.239
waiting for the the gun to go off and I'm thinking

00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:27.190
listen guys it went off 90 days ago, like we've

00:52:27.190 --> 00:52:31.809
been nonstop and it doesn't seem to be letting

00:52:31.809 --> 00:52:37.309
up anytime soon. And that's okay. It is okay.

00:52:37.429 --> 00:52:40.449
I think, I think what's happening at this point,

00:52:40.489 --> 00:52:42.969
and it was really sweet because today you and

00:52:42.969 --> 00:52:47.170
I, when we went to the grocery store and literally

00:52:47.170 --> 00:52:51.750
we're doing this, the paired app and answering

00:52:51.750 --> 00:52:54.820
the same questions. basically the same way with

00:52:54.820 --> 00:52:57.820
the same answers and just turning and looking

00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:00.739
at each other and going, the fact that we recognize

00:53:00.739 --> 00:53:06.920
it is, is massive. Now it's time to put ourselves

00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:10.219
on a schedule, actually write these things down,

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:15.400
get it out on paper. And then I think once it

00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:20.039
gets out of our heads and actually out onto whatever,

00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:24.480
I think things will, Become a little less noisy.

00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:31.139
What hit me. Yeah. Was we're learning a new stride.

00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:36.179
We're learning a new pace. I like that. Yeah.

00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.000
The stamina. Yeah. Yeah. Growing our stamina.

00:53:40.059 --> 00:53:44.099
Yeah. It's like, okay, this was your stride.

00:53:44.099 --> 00:53:46.139
This was your pace. Okay. It's time to, it's

00:53:46.139 --> 00:53:48.699
time to change things up and increase it. Yeah.

00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.050
So. We should go take a nap first before we do

00:53:54.050 --> 00:53:56.769
that, though. Yeah. I would appreciate that.

00:53:57.150 --> 00:53:59.829
Okay. All right, guys. Have the best week. Enjoy

00:53:59.829 --> 00:54:00.170
the journey.
