WEBVTT 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:10.199 Hello and welcome back to another episode of 00:00:10.199 --> 00:00:36.870 Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dean'na. Hey, 00:00:36.870 --> 00:00:40.109 and welcome back, and here's Sparx. Yeah. Hi, 00:00:40.130 --> 00:00:44.609 baby. Hi. No. No. Don't look at you. Don't talk. 00:00:44.729 --> 00:00:48.649 Baby, talk to you. I'm not looking. I'm looking 00:00:48.649 --> 00:00:51.429 at you, though. Yeah. Hey, babe. Hi, babe. Happy 00:00:51.429 --> 00:00:56.429 anniversary. Happy anniversary. It's our anniversary. 00:00:56.770 --> 00:01:00.109 It's our anniversary. 13 years. 13 years. Yeah. 00:01:00.170 --> 00:01:03.450 It feels longer, and yes, the whole... joke of 00:01:03.450 --> 00:01:06.209 oh you know it feels longer but yeah it in a 00:01:06.209 --> 00:01:11.129 bad way in the best of way yes like um what have 00:01:11.129 --> 00:01:13.250 we determined at this point that we were together 00:01:13.250 --> 00:01:20.870 16 months before we said i do 14 14 i don't know 00:01:20.870 --> 00:01:24.230 yeah longer than a year yeah but shorter than 00:01:24.230 --> 00:01:28.299 just a little over a year yeah because what February, 00:01:28.340 --> 00:01:31.079 March, April, May, June, July, August. Well, 00:01:31.099 --> 00:01:33.959 no, just go February to May. October is when 00:01:33.959 --> 00:01:36.719 you proposed to me. So eight months into our 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:39.959 relationship. And then December, January, February, 00:01:40.060 --> 00:01:47.019 March, April, May. What is that? That's 14. 14 00:01:47.019 --> 00:01:50.219 months. Yeah. Woo -hoo. So it's one of those 00:01:50.219 --> 00:01:56.319 where, like, we go, okay, we've been married 00:01:56.319 --> 00:02:01.640 13. We've been together moving towards 15 years. 00:02:03.019 --> 00:02:07.260 And life just gets better. It does. Do you know 00:02:07.260 --> 00:02:09.219 what? I think the sweetest thing that I heard 00:02:09.219 --> 00:02:13.080 today was when your dad texted us. Yes. Like, 00:02:13.139 --> 00:02:16.560 not that I heard him. Yeah. But just, you know, 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.800 keep up the great job is what he texted. And 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:25.120 it was like, I don't know about you, but that 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:28.500 meant a lot to me. And, like, it's weird because 00:02:28.500 --> 00:02:32.960 it's, like, lately he's been pulling back the 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:35.300 curtain on some stuff. Yeah. Like, not in a bad 00:02:35.300 --> 00:02:37.319 way. No. Like, what was it? We were helping. 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:40.419 Because, okay, so full disclosure for our audience 00:02:40.419 --> 00:02:43.560 that does not know this. My parents live 30 minutes 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.500 away from us. Yes. Which is a treasure. So we 00:02:46.500 --> 00:02:49.340 see them at least once a month. Yes. Well, more 00:02:49.340 --> 00:02:52.620 than that, but yes. But, like, all of us. Yes. 00:02:52.699 --> 00:02:59.539 Yes. But so, yeah, it was one day you were painting 00:02:59.539 --> 00:03:01.400 their bathroom. Yeah. One of their bathrooms. 00:03:01.599 --> 00:03:05.060 Yeah. And like all of a sudden my dad's like, 00:03:05.219 --> 00:03:08.240 oh, yeah. Well, when we were in England, which 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.819 was the late 70s, he's like, mom and I went on 00:03:11.819 --> 00:03:16.379 some marriage retreat. I was like, I had no idea. 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:21.599 And what sprung that conversation was we were 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:25.090 kind of, I think we were talking about. Just 00:03:25.090 --> 00:03:27.530 one of our dreams of things that we would like 00:03:27.530 --> 00:03:30.590 to see in the future. Like the relationship coaching. 00:03:30.710 --> 00:03:32.530 And then it's like, Hey dad, this is ultimately 00:03:32.530 --> 00:03:35.110 something that we would love. And then like, 00:03:35.210 --> 00:03:36.689 we would like to organize some kind of retreat 00:03:36.689 --> 00:03:38.729 or something like that. And then like have some 00:03:38.729 --> 00:03:41.050 property and all the things I could see your 00:03:41.050 --> 00:03:43.050 mind. Like I see it plain as day. I can see your 00:03:43.050 --> 00:03:45.349 mom and dad, your sister, even if she wants to 00:03:45.349 --> 00:03:47.490 come along, but your mom and dad on the property 00:03:47.490 --> 00:03:51.789 and, and being everybody's mom and dad, that 00:03:51.789 --> 00:03:53.689 would come onto the property. Like, I don't know 00:03:53.689 --> 00:03:55.520 what else. to say it's just like i could see 00:03:55.520 --> 00:03:57.840 them being like you know like your dad being 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.080 kind of like almost a groundskeeper but not just 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.199 like he's like hey guys or the official bird 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:08.120 watcher stuff but just um being surrounded by 00:04:08.120 --> 00:04:10.099 and cultivating that kind of thing because they 00:04:10.099 --> 00:04:13.919 just celebrated 52 years yes of marriage and 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.720 the suck of it is we it was the same day as my 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:23.399 mom's little sister's funeral yeah So that was, 00:04:23.420 --> 00:04:27.100 dang, babe, that was last week. Yeah. Right? 00:04:27.339 --> 00:04:31.259 Yes. Yep. That was a week ago. My head hurts. 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.639 Genuinely, like, yeah, like a week ago. Anyway, 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:38.699 but it was your parents' anniversary. And I was 00:04:38.699 --> 00:04:46.180 thinking, like, what a suck of a way to celebrate 00:04:46.180 --> 00:04:49.439 your anniversary, right? Like, death is never 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:54.069 a good thing. But like disease or injury or problems, 00:04:54.269 --> 00:04:58.389 like I was thinking about us in particular. Yeah. 00:04:58.449 --> 00:05:00.610 Okay. Because of what's going on with us right 00:05:00.610 --> 00:05:03.189 now. Because what's happening to you, babe? I 00:05:03.189 --> 00:05:06.449 am injured. You are injured. Right now. And it 00:05:06.449 --> 00:05:12.879 assumably. It is my knee again. Yes. We are hunting 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:14.939 for answers. We are hunting for answers. And 00:05:14.939 --> 00:05:18.540 fervently praying. Truly. Truly. We believe like 00:05:18.540 --> 00:05:20.420 we know the power and the presence of God. We 00:05:20.420 --> 00:05:23.060 know his healing that is absolutely for today. 00:05:23.819 --> 00:05:26.759 We also know that if there's other ways of going 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:29.040 about it, then we're okay with that too. Yeah. 00:05:29.060 --> 00:05:33.500 But it flared up from this trip. Yes. Being in 00:05:33.500 --> 00:05:39.040 the car for 18, 19 hours. Yeah. And it's like 00:05:39.040 --> 00:05:45.319 today. It was our anniversary. And it's like 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.360 we had these big grandeur plans. But we did, 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.180 but we didn't. Because life really just kind 00:05:52.180 --> 00:05:54.399 of got smack in the middle of the way. Because 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.339 I'm looking at you while we're out of town. And 00:05:57.339 --> 00:05:59.019 we're sitting in the middle of a hotel room. 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:03.000 And I'm thinking, I didn't plan anything for 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.300 our anniversary. And I'm pretty good about getting 00:06:05.300 --> 00:06:09.720 us to go away and things like that. I just looked 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.459 at you and I said, you know what? I think God 00:06:12.459 --> 00:06:15.360 knew. I mean, even in the midst of the sorrow 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:20.459 and in the midst of the loss, God was so gracious 00:06:20.459 --> 00:06:23.300 to help kind of carve us out some time to where 00:06:23.300 --> 00:06:27.279 we had. uninterrupted time in the car. Yeah. 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.939 And then we had very intentional time at the 00:06:30.939 --> 00:06:33.959 hotel. Yes. Which where your mom was still so 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:35.779 funny. Like, couldn't keep my eye on you two. 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:38.800 Mom, we're married. It's fine. And so, but it's 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:42.240 one of those things where, um, I think that that 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:43.699 was one of the main things that we wanted to 00:06:43.699 --> 00:06:46.220 talk about today. Yeah. Yeah. Number one. Yes. 00:06:46.259 --> 00:06:48.279 Yes. It's an anniversary. Happy anniversary, 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:52.800 baby. Let me tell you something. Yeah. As much 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:57.439 as life has thrown at you and I over the 15 years, 00:06:57.660 --> 00:07:08.199 I would not genuinely. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:10.439 want to do this with anybody else. I wouldn't 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:15.279 either. And as hard and as suck as some of this 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.100 stuff has really, really been. And as much as 00:07:18.100 --> 00:07:21.360 we do share things with you guys, like we try 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.579 to do our best to be transparent, but unless 00:07:23.579 --> 00:07:25.720 you're right there in that space with us at times, 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:28.920 like you're never going to know the full gravity. 00:07:28.939 --> 00:07:33.220 Yeah. But when you have somebody that is literally 00:07:33.220 --> 00:07:37.600 your ride or die, somebody that you say literally 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.399 for better or for worse, sickness and in health, 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:45.930 all the things, it hits different. Like you get 00:07:45.930 --> 00:07:49.629 to walk these hard spaces differently because 00:07:49.629 --> 00:07:55.829 it's not a thing of, um, are you going to bail 00:07:55.829 --> 00:07:57.430 if it gets bad enough? Are you going to bail 00:07:57.430 --> 00:08:00.730 on me? It's like, no, like I'm not going anywhere. 00:08:01.329 --> 00:08:03.029 We're going to buckle down. We're going to do 00:08:03.029 --> 00:08:05.829 what we need to do and we're going to get, we're 00:08:05.829 --> 00:08:09.149 going to make it to the other side. And so it's 00:08:09.149 --> 00:08:14.110 like being, I even did a video today, um, on 00:08:14.110 --> 00:08:17.569 our, our socials and basically said, you know, 00:08:17.589 --> 00:08:21.189 just creating a space that's more intentional. 00:08:21.290 --> 00:08:25.209 Cause even though today you came home, you're 00:08:25.209 --> 00:08:29.129 in a lot of, you are in a lot of pain. Um, I, 00:08:29.230 --> 00:08:32.850 I was going to make us steaks and I ended up 00:08:32.850 --> 00:08:37.110 eating sooner or later and messed us up. Sorry. 00:08:37.409 --> 00:08:39.549 Um, but I went ahead and made you some scrambled 00:08:39.549 --> 00:08:42.309 eggs with some cheese and you were happy. Um, 00:08:42.570 --> 00:08:45.659 yes. And then, um, But it's one of those where 00:08:45.659 --> 00:08:51.620 it's like today or any day may not look the way 00:08:51.620 --> 00:08:54.019 that we think, like we might have painted it 00:08:54.019 --> 00:08:57.340 in our brain. Yeah. But I think when we decide 00:08:57.340 --> 00:09:01.679 that it's the everyday, the day in, the day out, 00:09:01.700 --> 00:09:05.500 I choose you, the pushing through the mundane, 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:08.120 even when it looks, and I'm putting quotations, 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:12.440 boring. Yes. there is a peace and there is a 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:16.000 contentment. There is a security in those spaces. 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:20.659 And so just like one of our little sayings on 00:09:20.659 --> 00:09:24.500 our wall, we're together. That's all that matters. 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:29.879 I forget the rest. But that's all that matters. 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.059 And I think also because earlier in the year, 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.820 a couple months ago, a few months ago, It's like 00:09:37.820 --> 00:09:41.080 we had a time, we had a chance to go out of town, 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:44.139 just the two of us. Yeah, it was the weekend 00:09:44.139 --> 00:09:47.340 after Valentine's Day. Yeah. Yeah. And the weekend 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:50.059 before my, well, when my stepmom passed away. 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:53.879 Yeah. Yeah. Dang. So, yeah. So, I mean, that 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.179 was, you know, so mid -February we got away. 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.960 We had an intentional time for that. Yes. But 00:09:59.960 --> 00:10:01.980 I think it was also, I think it was funny because 00:10:01.980 --> 00:10:04.240 it was like we've been, we were planning that. 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:08.370 Yeah. And then it was like. we know your birthday 00:10:08.370 --> 00:10:10.210 is coming up at the end of this month and I know 00:10:10.210 --> 00:10:12.070 your brother's getting married in a couple of 00:10:12.070 --> 00:10:13.990 weeks. So it's like, we've been focused on like 00:10:13.990 --> 00:10:17.470 that. Yeah. That we kind of skimmed past us a 00:10:17.470 --> 00:10:19.269 little bit. It's like, it's like in a way it's 00:10:19.269 --> 00:10:22.110 like we, it's like even for the past few months, 00:10:22.149 --> 00:10:24.629 we haven't really been planning or saying really. 00:10:25.470 --> 00:10:27.190 It's like, we know it's there on the calendar, 00:10:27.230 --> 00:10:29.809 but it's not like, Oh my gosh, we got to do something. 00:10:29.850 --> 00:10:32.870 Yeah. You know, it was never really a, there 00:10:32.870 --> 00:10:35.909 was never really like a, a big talk, like an 00:10:35.909 --> 00:10:38.610 urgency or anything like, or like a, Oh, we, 00:10:38.690 --> 00:10:40.610 we need to, we need to do something about this. 00:10:40.629 --> 00:10:44.090 Yeah. So I, I, because again, it's the, the running 00:10:44.090 --> 00:10:46.129 joke is may is your months, you know, because, 00:10:46.230 --> 00:10:48.870 you know, yes, we got, we got married. It's our 00:10:48.870 --> 00:10:50.909 anniversary. There's mother's day. There's your 00:10:50.909 --> 00:10:54.149 birthday. Yeah. You know, so it's, it's all the 00:10:54.149 --> 00:10:56.649 fun. Every two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. All the funness. 00:10:56.669 --> 00:10:59.970 Yes. Um, you know, and that's fine. That's fine. 00:11:00.009 --> 00:11:04.789 It's good. It's, um, But it is. I think it is. 00:11:04.789 --> 00:11:08.710 It's funny. It's like we had intentional time. 00:11:09.610 --> 00:11:12.649 And it was. It does. It feels like God was setting 00:11:12.649 --> 00:11:16.730 this up. Yeah. That you don't need to worry about 00:11:16.730 --> 00:11:21.549 this one. Yeah. And it's funny because it is. 00:11:21.649 --> 00:11:25.409 It's when you sit back and you look over. When 00:11:25.409 --> 00:11:30.669 you're so sold out to that journey with him. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:36.120 you know, just being able to sit back and just 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:40.659 trust and know, you know, it's, I know, I know 00:11:40.659 --> 00:11:42.940 they're, they're super popular. Like when you 00:11:42.940 --> 00:11:44.779 go to Hobby Lobby and stuff like that, you know, 00:11:44.779 --> 00:11:46.799 the be still and know, be still and know. I mean, 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.679 we have one in our house. We do have one in our 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.000 house. Yes. Um, you know, but it's so funny because 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:56.139 it's like, I know so many people that like that 00:11:56.139 --> 00:11:59.399 phrase that even aren't Christians. Yeah. But 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:01.940 it's, but it's almost like they forget. It's 00:12:01.940 --> 00:12:03.659 like they really like that first part and they 00:12:03.659 --> 00:12:06.399 forget the rest of it, you know, or even just 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:09.840 the next couple of words of be still and know 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.000 that I am God. That I am God. You know, because 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.860 again, at the end of the day, we know he's going 00:12:15.860 --> 00:12:18.860 to take care of it. Right. You know, it's, you 00:12:18.860 --> 00:12:22.360 know, one of my favorite scriptures from right 00:12:22.360 --> 00:12:25.200 before Sebastian was born, you know, the Shadrach, 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.440 Meshach, and Abednego, you know, it's like God 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.690 is God. Yeah. Even if you throw us in that fire. 00:12:32.169 --> 00:12:34.450 You're God. God is God. Yeah. Even if he doesn't 00:12:34.450 --> 00:12:37.649 save us. Yeah. God is God. Yeah. He's not on 00:12:37.649 --> 00:12:40.590 trial. Right. We don't care what you do to us, 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:43.990 what you don't do to us. Yeah. God is God. Nothing 00:12:43.990 --> 00:12:46.730 you do, nothing you say can change that fact. 00:12:46.990 --> 00:12:49.090 Yeah. And it's like when you go through life 00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:54.490 and you commit fully to having a marriage that 00:12:54.490 --> 00:12:57.919 is based on that. Come on, babe. you can sit 00:12:57.919 --> 00:13:01.259 back and yes, there's, there's a lot of work 00:13:01.259 --> 00:13:03.059 to it. There's a lot of effort that needs to 00:13:03.059 --> 00:13:06.960 get put into it, you know, because I mean, what 00:13:06.960 --> 00:13:09.000 was it? I saw it. I saw something the other day. 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:14.879 It was like, you can't, you can't sit there or 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.620 it's, I'm going to, I'm going to totally butcher 00:13:17.620 --> 00:13:19.419 this, but it was something like, if you pray 00:13:19.419 --> 00:13:23.279 for God to move a mountain in your life, be prepared 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:26.659 to have a shovel next to you. That's it. That's 00:13:26.659 --> 00:13:30.000 it. Because again, you can sit there and you 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.480 can say, I want this. And God, I'm asking for 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:35.419 this. God, I'm praying for this. God, I want 00:13:35.419 --> 00:13:38.200 to push through for this. And it's like, okay, 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:41.220 cool. Where's your part of this? Because even 00:13:41.220 --> 00:13:45.179 Moses, no, not Moses. I'm wrong. Not Moses. Abraham. 00:13:45.700 --> 00:13:50.679 Okay. Oh, yeah. Getting my founding fathers messed 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:54.519 up. But even Abraham, when it was the whole... 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:59.960 you know i'm making this covenant with you you 00:13:59.960 --> 00:14:03.240 know god made a covenant with abraham you know 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:06.019 i will be your god you will be my people type 00:14:06.019 --> 00:14:07.620 thing i know that's not exactly what he said 00:14:07.620 --> 00:14:09.940 but it was it was that i will be your god and 00:14:09.940 --> 00:14:11.899 and you will be blessed through me through your 00:14:11.899 --> 00:14:14.980 descendants your descendants will follow me and 00:14:14.980 --> 00:14:18.000 and again it was the whole you know god split 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:23.100 the animals in half put abraham on made him unconscious 00:14:23.100 --> 00:14:27.720 put him to sleep and literally walked him yeah 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:30.379 through between this row of animals that were 00:14:30.379 --> 00:14:33.559 split open you know and because again i love 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.659 this story because it's you know it was explained 00:14:36.659 --> 00:14:38.539 to me once that that's how they used to make 00:14:38.539 --> 00:14:41.419 covenants because it was it was an agreement 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:43.519 between the two people walking between those 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.620 animals that said if i break this covenant you 00:14:46.620 --> 00:14:48.919 can do to me what has been done to these animals 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:51.519 like i get goosebumps on that one yeah every 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.370 time And like somebody, somebody really explained 00:14:54.370 --> 00:14:57.230 it to me because it was like somebody, somebody, 00:14:57.289 --> 00:14:59.049 I listened to somebody and they were digging 00:14:59.049 --> 00:15:04.669 through that and they were like, A, God never 00:15:04.669 --> 00:15:06.929 goes back on his word. That's right. He is. He 00:15:06.929 --> 00:15:09.210 will not lie. But it was, but it was the fact 00:15:09.210 --> 00:15:15.330 that it wasn't so much a covenant of God or Abraham 00:15:15.330 --> 00:15:20.529 with God. It was the, it was God that was going 00:15:20.529 --> 00:15:22.980 through the animals. Yeah, he was making a covenant 00:15:22.980 --> 00:15:26.200 with himself. And he was the one making the covenant 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:28.899 with Abraham. Yeah, if I go back on my word, 00:15:28.940 --> 00:15:31.899 then this is what gets to happen to me. Which 00:15:31.899 --> 00:15:34.019 is absolutely... Abraham, if I go back on my 00:15:34.019 --> 00:15:38.639 word, you can destroy me. Dang. Dang. Yeah. And 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.480 I think about how funny, because I literally 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:46.539 just went to Aslan, and the lion, the witch, 00:15:46.539 --> 00:15:50.940 and the wardrobe, right? And how he's like... 00:15:51.990 --> 00:15:55.190 I will lay my life down. Yeah. I'll lay my life 00:15:55.190 --> 00:15:58.629 down in order for the covenant to come to fruition, 00:15:58.690 --> 00:16:01.289 for this promise to be made fulfilled. I will 00:16:01.289 --> 00:16:03.230 lay down my life so that the innocent can be 00:16:03.230 --> 00:16:05.330 spared. That's it, right? Even though the innocent 00:16:05.330 --> 00:16:08.330 has betrayed and been a traitor. Yeah. Dang. 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:11.559 Like we completely went on a whole other thing. 00:16:11.700 --> 00:16:16.399 But it does go back to marriage. And it's so 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.139 funny because it's like we're doing our final 00:16:19.139 --> 00:16:23.320 week of this round of marriage supplements with 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:29.419 our marriage group. And I found 35 scriptures 00:16:29.419 --> 00:16:32.620 to basically that you could speak and pray over 00:16:32.620 --> 00:16:37.580 your spouse. moving things around and I'm making 00:16:37.580 --> 00:16:40.779 this list and putting it together. I'm reading 00:16:40.779 --> 00:16:43.539 them one by one and parts of them, I'm looking 00:16:43.539 --> 00:16:45.919 at them going, well, it doesn't really say about 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:47.659 husband and wife. It doesn't really say about 00:16:47.659 --> 00:16:51.840 husband and wife. And, and I, I want to always 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.700 constantly go back to the fact that no, no, actually 00:16:55.700 --> 00:16:57.500 it's, it has everything to do with relationship, 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.559 everything to do with relationship. You know, 00:17:00.580 --> 00:17:04.420 here's, here's, you know, Christ died. you know, 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:06.599 for the church. Okay. So the man should be willing 00:17:06.599 --> 00:17:08.880 to lay his life down just like Christ did. Right. 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.279 The woman should be willing to, to honor and 00:17:12.279 --> 00:17:15.859 respect and all the things. And we're even, um, 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:19.339 I say we, I am reading the book, love and respect. 00:17:19.779 --> 00:17:22.079 And it's talking about how, even how we're wired. 00:17:22.420 --> 00:17:29.579 And it's like in our culture, in the world, it 00:17:29.579 --> 00:17:33.920 says, babe, if you do this, Then I'll do that. 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:37.880 Right. In the word of God, where God says his 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.099 absolutes and he knows who he is and he knows 00:17:40.099 --> 00:17:44.099 what he has created, right? He says, when you 00:17:44.099 --> 00:17:49.000 do this, this is what will happen. And it's like, 00:17:49.099 --> 00:17:52.759 this is a command, honor. This is a command, 00:17:53.019 --> 00:17:57.460 love. It doesn't mean if your wife is being lovable 00:17:57.460 --> 00:18:01.339 or if your husband is doing something that's 00:18:01.339 --> 00:18:05.589 respect. full. It's you have made a covenant. 00:18:06.069 --> 00:18:10.210 You are willing to say, I am going to lay my 00:18:10.210 --> 00:18:12.789 life down. I'm going to do what I'm going to 00:18:12.789 --> 00:18:15.470 be intentional. I'm going to be willing to do 00:18:15.470 --> 00:18:18.690 the things that I need to do. You and I. Came 00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:21.369 home, was it yesterday? You listened to the radio 00:18:21.369 --> 00:18:23.130 and I listened to the radio at two different 00:18:23.130 --> 00:18:25.349 things, but they had the repeat. Oh, yeah. No, 00:18:25.529 --> 00:18:28.250 I think it was at the same time. It was just 00:18:28.250 --> 00:18:29.789 we were in two different cars. Yeah, but it was 00:18:29.789 --> 00:18:32.309 like the first Corinthians 13. And it's like, 00:18:32.390 --> 00:18:34.529 love is patient, love is kind. And it says, now 00:18:34.529 --> 00:18:37.109 I challenge you. Yeah. Put your name in there. 00:18:37.990 --> 00:18:40.109 Every time it says love. Every time it says love. 00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:43.390 Put your name in there. Are you that? To your 00:18:43.390 --> 00:18:45.509 spouse? Yeah. Are you that to your children? 00:18:45.750 --> 00:18:47.789 Yep. Are you that to your coworkers? Are you 00:18:47.789 --> 00:18:51.390 that to the nosy neighbor that wants to be shady? 00:18:51.849 --> 00:19:01.109 Are you doing your best to create peace in everything 00:19:01.109 --> 00:19:04.309 that you do? Or are you in a constant state of, 00:19:04.369 --> 00:19:07.170 like, we could be really mad right now. We are 00:19:07.170 --> 00:19:11.339 mad. that this is happening to you again. But 00:19:11.339 --> 00:19:15.180 we could sit here and say, oh, because I've been 00:19:15.180 --> 00:19:16.660 asked several times, what are you guys doing 00:19:16.660 --> 00:19:22.599 today? I mean, well, let's see. This is what 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:24.440 we're doing. We're actually going to go later 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:29.339 tonight to finish our workshop with some of our 00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:32.720 marrieds groups. You guys are doing this on your 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:37.019 anniversary? Yeah. Because the last time that 00:19:37.019 --> 00:19:39.039 we tried to do this is when we were traveling 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:43.339 back from Kentucky. Yep. And we had nothing in 00:19:43.339 --> 00:19:45.960 our tank. Yes. And so we wanted to be able to 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:47.880 have the opportunity to have more into our tank. 00:19:48.140 --> 00:19:51.420 Do we have more in our tank? No. Probably not. 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:53.740 Not as much. Yeah. Because this has been a hard 00:19:53.740 --> 00:19:58.539 week. Yes. And total side note. Yeah. There is 00:19:58.539 --> 00:20:01.160 a promise of sugared confectionery goodness. 00:20:01.500 --> 00:20:09.049 There is. Is, yes, there is. But is there enough 00:20:09.049 --> 00:20:11.309 foundation inside of us that we can share even 00:20:11.309 --> 00:20:13.789 when there's not enough in our tank? Yes. And 00:20:13.789 --> 00:20:17.369 the answer is yes. Yes. Like there's days where 00:20:17.369 --> 00:20:19.490 I think so many times people want this picture 00:20:19.490 --> 00:20:23.029 perfect marriage and they want these picture 00:20:23.029 --> 00:20:27.230 perfect moments. And I think too many times we 00:20:27.230 --> 00:20:32.740 do a misjustice for each other and others. When 00:20:32.740 --> 00:20:35.680 we don't share the heart, when we don't look 00:20:35.680 --> 00:20:38.779 at people and say, let me tell you what's going 00:20:38.779 --> 00:20:42.279 on right now, but let me tell you that it's going 00:20:42.279 --> 00:20:45.640 to get better. Yeah. Or I think sometimes it's 00:20:45.640 --> 00:20:47.579 not so much that they want to see the picture 00:20:47.579 --> 00:20:52.859 perfect, but they want to see the devastation 00:20:52.859 --> 00:20:57.900 and turmoil that you have walked through and 00:20:57.900 --> 00:21:00.970 struggled through. In order to get where you 00:21:00.970 --> 00:21:04.750 are, you know, it's like, it's like there, there 00:21:04.750 --> 00:21:09.210 really wasn't any of that in our marriage. I 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:11.589 mean, we had stuff in our past that we got to 00:21:11.589 --> 00:21:14.529 work through and, and some of that was working 00:21:14.529 --> 00:21:16.630 through individually with God. Some of it was 00:21:16.630 --> 00:21:19.569 working through it as a couple, as a married 00:21:19.569 --> 00:21:22.730 couple, as a family, you know, but it was, you 00:21:22.730 --> 00:21:26.490 know, again. you know the the people that are 00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:28.690 like well if you don't fight then you're not 00:21:28.690 --> 00:21:31.930 talking or you know let me you know explain to 00:21:31.930 --> 00:21:34.509 me how how bad your marriage was at the beginning 00:21:34.509 --> 00:21:36.910 so that we can we can talk about how good it 00:21:36.910 --> 00:21:40.130 is now it's like yeah there's not that you know 00:21:40.130 --> 00:21:42.730 it wasn't picture perfect but it wasn't a horror 00:21:42.730 --> 00:21:46.329 show yeah and it's i i think one of those things 00:21:46.329 --> 00:21:48.869 that you know i know we're going to talk about 00:21:48.869 --> 00:21:53.180 it again later with with our group but it's a 00:21:53.180 --> 00:21:56.960 lot of it comes down to what is your effort level? 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.599 What energy are you putting into this? One of 00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:05.980 the things I said, when there is conflict, where 00:22:05.980 --> 00:22:08.920 are your weapons pointed? When there's a conflict 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.220 in your marriage, are you drawing swords and 00:22:12.220 --> 00:22:14.460 pointing spears at each other? Or are you saying, 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:19.240 okay, stuff's going down. Yeah. Let's unite and 00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.119 fight this thing. Yeah. Even if it is a disagreement 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.819 amongst us, we still get a chance to say, okay, 00:22:26.940 --> 00:22:30.220 my problem isn't with you. Your problem isn't 00:22:30.220 --> 00:22:34.500 with me. Our problem is with this issue that 00:22:34.500 --> 00:22:37.859 came up. Right. And we need to tackle it. We 00:22:37.859 --> 00:22:39.920 need to take it on. We need to conquer it. We 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:42.839 need to figure it out. We need to come to a compromise, 00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:47.559 whatever. Yeah. Again. you know kind of using 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:51.119 you know my aunt's funeral yeah which you know 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:57.519 again it's it was like she passed on i think 00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.680 she passed on a wednesday and then the following 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:03.400 monday was the funeral so all of a sudden it's 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.160 like okay what are we gonna do is it gonna be 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.420 the two of us is it gonna be the two of us and 00:23:08.420 --> 00:23:10.980 sebastian what do we do with sparks right you 00:23:10.980 --> 00:23:14.579 know If we can't do this, do I go by myself? 00:23:15.099 --> 00:23:20.200 And so it's like, you know, all of that thrown 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:25.259 in there. Yeah. And it's like, what do we do? 00:23:25.420 --> 00:23:27.579 What do we struggle? You know, here's the latest 00:23:27.579 --> 00:23:30.660 struggle on a hot plate. Bam. Yeah. Welcome to 00:23:30.660 --> 00:23:33.480 dinner. You know, and it's like, you know, what 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:35.440 do we do? And it's like, okay, well, here's our 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:37.940 options. Here's what we can do. And, you know. 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.400 The kids stayed home. They watched each other. 00:23:42.740 --> 00:23:45.200 The house didn't burn down. They watched sparks. 00:23:45.619 --> 00:23:47.559 You know, everything was good. Everything was 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:50.299 happy. Yeah. You know, everything worked out. 00:23:50.339 --> 00:23:53.779 Got my sister involved because she stayed, you 00:23:53.779 --> 00:23:55.680 know, home. She didn't go to the funeral because 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.539 she couldn't get off work. Right. And, you know, 00:23:58.559 --> 00:24:00.460 the two of us went. And it was a real quick, 00:24:00.660 --> 00:24:04.960 you know, we left Sunday after church. Had the 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:09.150 funeral Monday. Tuesday came back. You know, 00:24:09.230 --> 00:24:14.630 so, and we get to do that sort of similar again 00:24:14.630 --> 00:24:16.369 in a couple of weeks. In a couple of weeks for 00:24:16.369 --> 00:24:18.390 my brothers. Yeah. We're driving down to Texas. 00:24:18.710 --> 00:24:20.069 On a Friday, have the wedding on a Saturday. 00:24:20.069 --> 00:24:22.670 Watching a wedding on a Saturday and driving 00:24:22.670 --> 00:24:28.009 back on Sunday. Yep. It'll work out better for 00:24:28.009 --> 00:24:30.569 my knee this time. It will. Yes. It will. We 00:24:30.569 --> 00:24:33.190 will have a bigger car at this point. Yes. Yeah. 00:24:34.150 --> 00:24:37.859 But yeah, so it's just, it is, it's. It's looking 00:24:37.859 --> 00:24:40.180 at those situations. It's looking at those when 00:24:40.180 --> 00:24:42.299 the difficulties pop up, when the opportunities 00:24:42.299 --> 00:24:47.799 pop up. Yeah. And just taking a pause, knowing 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.599 that this doesn't need a knee -jerk reaction. 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.900 Correct. This isn't something that has to get 00:24:54.900 --> 00:24:57.980 decided right in the split -second moment. Right. 00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.559 And what are we going to do about this? Yeah. 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.420 How do we want to go forward? God, how do you 00:25:05.420 --> 00:25:07.960 want us to go forward? Right. You know, and that's 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:12.059 what we get to do. Yeah. No, I agree. Yeah. I 00:25:12.059 --> 00:25:15.119 agree. My brain started moving towards the 14 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:17.799 other things. No, I saw. You saw. I saw. Yeah, 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:19.619 you saw where I was going. I was like, I'm going 00:25:19.619 --> 00:25:21.299 to pause so you can bring back to, come back 00:25:21.299 --> 00:25:22.779 to the conversation. Come back to the conversation. 00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:24.940 I'm sorry. Come on back. I'm sorry. Join us. 00:25:25.019 --> 00:25:32.700 Yes. Water's nice. It is. It is. Yeah. I think. 00:25:35.369 --> 00:25:37.549 See, I'm looking at like my sticky notes that 00:25:37.549 --> 00:25:39.630 are in front of me that live in front of me all 00:25:39.630 --> 00:25:44.750 the time. Yeah. And I'm looking at the words 00:25:44.750 --> 00:25:47.890 in very big letter, false expectations. Yeah. 00:25:47.950 --> 00:25:53.089 And so if we would just take the blinders off, 00:25:53.130 --> 00:25:58.009 take off the preconceived ideas of what we think 00:25:58.009 --> 00:26:00.130 things should be looking like, how things should 00:26:00.130 --> 00:26:04.240 even go, even with you, like you. You made that 00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:06.359 very bold statement to me. You looked at me and 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.000 you said, you know, like this happened to me. 00:26:09.559 --> 00:26:12.500 Yeah. Like, what did we decide? Two months into 00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:16.279 our marriage? Yeah. If that. You got pretty sick. 00:26:16.660 --> 00:26:18.799 Basically a month. Yeah. A little over a month 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:23.740 after. You got pretty sick. Yeah. And you had 00:26:23.740 --> 00:26:26.380 it somewhere in your head. The enemy had worn 00:26:26.380 --> 00:26:29.279 you down is what had happened. Yeah. I will say 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.529 you are not anywhere close to as strong. as far 00:26:33.529 --> 00:26:37.670 as who you are as you are now, right? Like you 00:26:37.670 --> 00:26:39.609 have grown so exponentially. I mean, because 00:26:39.609 --> 00:26:42.490 back then, I mean, I was still... We would consider 00:26:42.490 --> 00:26:44.829 you a baby Christian. Maybe a year and a half 00:26:44.829 --> 00:26:50.210 into being Christian. Yeah. And so you thought, 00:26:50.329 --> 00:26:52.769 this is my life. This is how this is going down. 00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:55.829 This is what we're doing. And here I'm crawling 00:26:55.829 --> 00:26:58.829 over on top of your body and I'm saying, we need 00:26:58.829 --> 00:27:00.789 to get up. You got to get up because I could 00:27:00.789 --> 00:27:03.250 see where the enemy was trying to take you. And 00:27:03.250 --> 00:27:11.190 you are dealing with this again. And this is 00:27:11.190 --> 00:27:13.950 probably the most severe pain I think I've seen 00:27:13.950 --> 00:27:21.009 you in on this round. And your fight is different. 00:27:21.769 --> 00:27:25.420 It's a fight now as opposed to... An acceptance. 00:27:25.740 --> 00:27:28.480 An acceptance. Does it hurt? Do you, do you break 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:32.200 down? Yes. But I think in the hurting and the 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:33.880 breaking down, there's nothing wrong with that. 00:27:33.940 --> 00:27:35.640 I think that that's what people have to remember. 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:38.700 It's there's like, if you're arguing with your 00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:40.680 spouse, we're having, we keep having fights. 00:27:40.819 --> 00:27:42.940 Okay, cool. You're still communicating. Right. 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.039 You're still in it. Yeah. You're still in it. 00:27:45.059 --> 00:27:47.480 The minute that you stop fighting for things 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:52.079 and just let things happen. Yeah. You're going 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.720 to see some, pretty devastating blows probably 00:27:56.720 --> 00:27:59.640 yeah but the fact is that you walked in today 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:05.400 and you were like i am pissed off yeah like you 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.839 used very colorful words which i was very excited 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:13.740 about but it's like babe, is it okay for me to 00:28:13.740 --> 00:28:15.900 be this angry? And I'm like, absolutely, because 00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:18.359 what it does is it fuels your fight. And the 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:20.940 fact that you know that this is literally an 00:28:20.940 --> 00:28:26.640 attack and a ploy of the enemy, whatever it looks 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.180 like. But the fact is you're not fighting by 00:28:29.180 --> 00:28:34.900 yourself. We are walking this together. And it 00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:38.059 is, it's taking off the false expectations, but 00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:40.960 remembering the promises of God. Remember your 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.980 covenant. Remember who you are. When things come, 00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:47.180 when sickness comes, when something happens with 00:28:47.180 --> 00:28:49.039 the kids, when something happens with your job, 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.920 when something happens with your sex life, when 00:28:51.920 --> 00:28:54.500 stuff starts happening mentally, physically, 00:28:54.819 --> 00:28:57.519 emotionally, spiritually, all the things. When 00:28:57.519 --> 00:28:59.980 they come, not if they come, but when they come, 00:29:00.180 --> 00:29:04.759 you stand back to back with each other. You create 00:29:04.759 --> 00:29:14.099 a unmovable, unshakable. of I'm not budging. 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.740 And then watch God come into the smack in the 00:29:19.740 --> 00:29:25.299 middle of it and fortify and reassure and then 00:29:25.299 --> 00:29:27.960 watch him get the glory in the midst of it. Oh 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.799 yeah, definitely. Because it is and that's what 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:36.480 it is. It was spoken over us, taught to us and 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:39.940 we have it framed on a wall. or on top of a cabinet 00:29:39.940 --> 00:29:43.319 somewhere. I mean, I say somewhere. It's in our 00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.680 dining room. I know it is. I was looking at it 00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.839 the other day. Papa Charlie. Yeah. And it was 00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:55.420 that triple braided cord that it's not just you 00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:59.359 and your spouse, but it's also Jesus that's in 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.559 there. It's also the Holy Spirit that's in there. 00:30:01.660 --> 00:30:05.119 It's God that's in your marriage. And so again, 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:09.289 it's that. that reminder of no matter how tightly 00:30:09.289 --> 00:30:12.950 you're bound yeah part of that tightness part 00:30:12.950 --> 00:30:17.950 of that binding is god you know and so it's like 00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:23.410 it it has to be there and so it is it's it's 00:30:23.410 --> 00:30:26.670 like if you're not using that if you're not bound 00:30:26.670 --> 00:30:28.910 that tight if you're not bound that close you 00:30:28.910 --> 00:30:31.670 know again that you know the whole you know a 00:30:31.670 --> 00:30:34.910 two -strand cord is easily broken yeah you know 00:30:35.420 --> 00:30:38.220 And it's just, it is, it's just that reminder 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:43.460 that everything we do has to involve God. Yeah. 00:30:43.460 --> 00:30:46.000 You know, everything we, every decision we do 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.700 has to be run through the, you know, the Holy 00:30:48.700 --> 00:30:53.160 Spirit. Yeah. And it's not like, like we're kids 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.200 running off to mom and dad, like, is this okay? 00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.319 Are we allowed to do this? Right. But it is, 00:30:57.319 --> 00:30:59.700 it's that, it's that, you know, seeking that 00:30:59.700 --> 00:31:03.000 wisdom, seeking that counsel, seeking that. that 00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:05.900 strength to make the decision or, you know, to, 00:31:05.980 --> 00:31:08.160 to go through with it because it is everything, 00:31:08.299 --> 00:31:13.059 you know, I think, you know, small things, big 00:31:13.059 --> 00:31:16.160 things that we've done in our marriage, just, 00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.160 you know, God, is this what you want us to do? 00:31:19.299 --> 00:31:22.279 You know, even when we got this house, you know, 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.559 you didn't, you for the longest time did not 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.640 want to look. Yeah. In this town. Yeah. And you're 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:29.660 like, nope, I've read too many stories. I used 00:31:29.660 --> 00:31:31.259 to work in the news station. Nope, we're not 00:31:31.259 --> 00:31:33.420 living in that area of the town. Yep. Nope, not 00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:35.980 going to do it. And God said. You need to expand 00:31:35.980 --> 00:31:38.900 your borders. Yep. Yep. And as soon as you said, 00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:41.599 okay, fine. This was the first one that came 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.039 up. Yeah. Yep. And it's everything that we asked 00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:48.279 for. 48 hours. 48, 72 hours, we were under contract. 00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:54.740 Yeah. Yeah. And it was almost more than we thought. 00:31:55.339 --> 00:32:00.059 we could get, man, I'm still floored of the goodness 00:32:00.059 --> 00:32:03.400 of God in that space. And, and, and that's not 00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:07.259 to say, look at us now, but at the same time 00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:10.200 it is no, like, look, look, look what happens 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.880 when you surrender. Have we been perfect? Look, 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.559 have we been perfect in it? Like I even told 00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.299 you like last night, Gabriel and I are talking 00:32:17.299 --> 00:32:20.619 and, and I said, Gabriel, the only thing I can 00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:22.359 tell you is that dad and I are always going to 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.299 do our absolute best. Are we going to be perfect 00:32:25.299 --> 00:32:28.099 in it? Absolutely not. Because we are human and 00:32:28.099 --> 00:32:30.200 we're frail and we're foolish and we're faulted. 00:32:30.980 --> 00:32:36.559 But know that in that moment, hopefully 99 .9 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.140 % of the time, we are always going to try to 00:32:39.140 --> 00:32:43.680 do our best to go, okay, God, what do you want 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:48.880 to do? And because it's like. I don't want to 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.460 do this without Him. I know what my life looks 00:32:52.460 --> 00:32:57.180 like without God in it, or at least without God 00:32:57.180 --> 00:33:02.099 being the center of it. And He's not an accessory 00:33:02.099 --> 00:33:06.960 in my life. He is the main source. He's not an 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.440 accessory in yours. He's the main source. He's 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.000 the main source of our family, and our family 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:18.029 knows that. And so... It teaches our children 00:33:18.029 --> 00:33:21.970 to lean on the Holy Spirit. It teaches our children 00:33:21.970 --> 00:33:26.869 to, when it's their turn, to have spouses. And 00:33:26.869 --> 00:33:30.710 then eventually, if God wants, willing to have 00:33:30.710 --> 00:33:34.690 children. Like, they will get to learn, okay, 00:33:34.750 --> 00:33:37.250 this is what mom and dad did. Like, this is what 00:33:37.250 --> 00:33:39.789 they did. Okay, they constantly just... kept 00:33:39.789 --> 00:33:41.930 pointing me right back to the throne. I don't 00:33:41.930 --> 00:33:43.470 know. Have you prayed about it? I don't know. 00:33:43.490 --> 00:33:46.109 Have you asked God about it? I don't know. Fill 00:33:46.109 --> 00:33:48.670 in the blank. Right. Like mom and dad always 00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:51.470 talked about stuff. Like always. Yeah. Yeah. 00:33:51.970 --> 00:33:54.890 I mean, and that has been said to us, but then 00:33:54.890 --> 00:33:59.349 also in the same breath, it's also been, no, 00:33:59.450 --> 00:34:01.009 I've seen where you've been. Right. Like she 00:34:01.009 --> 00:34:03.089 said that to me last night and so didn't want 00:34:03.089 --> 00:34:07.259 to say it, but. I just listened and I said, I 00:34:07.259 --> 00:34:09.300 appreciate that. But we know that that was in 00:34:09.300 --> 00:34:13.099 those moments where I was right. We know that 00:34:13.099 --> 00:34:15.400 in those moments I was listening to God. Yeah. 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:21.599 There's just no other way. And so, or there's 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.099 just a peace. So going back to the peace, going 00:34:24.099 --> 00:34:27.280 back to the expectation, going back to the trust, 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.480 going back to the knowing, going back to the 00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.989 surrender. There's days I just keep going, I 00:34:35.989 --> 00:34:38.150 feel like we repeat ourselves so much, but it's 00:34:38.150 --> 00:34:44.550 not. It's a reminder. Like, babe, you and I are 00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:47.949 tired. We're tired. Yeah. We're tired. Yeah. 00:34:48.309 --> 00:34:53.769 We're tired of being tired. And we're tired of 00:34:53.769 --> 00:34:58.349 being tired. But we're not stopping. No. We're 00:34:58.349 --> 00:35:02.130 not giving up. We're pausing here and there. 00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:05.039 Why? You're laughing. I'm laughing because I 00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.239 don't remember when this was written because, 00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:08.840 again, you're talking about the sticky note in 00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:12.820 front of you. I have tons. You do. Tens of sticky 00:35:12.820 --> 00:35:15.059 notes on my desk in front of me and just quotes 00:35:15.059 --> 00:35:18.059 and random things. And I don't know how it got 00:35:18.059 --> 00:35:20.719 here, why it got here. I mean, I know why. Yeah. 00:35:20.739 --> 00:35:24.159 I know. Yeah. But it's funny you're talking about 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:28.400 that because it's Isaiah 40, 30 and 31. Even 00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:31.829 youths grow tired and weary. Hmm. and young men 00:35:31.829 --> 00:35:34.650 stumble and fall. But they who wait on Adonai 00:35:34.650 --> 00:35:37.070 will renew their strength. They will soar up 00:35:37.070 --> 00:35:39.409 with wings as eagles. They will run and not grow 00:35:39.409 --> 00:35:46.650 weary. They will walk and not be faint. So yeah, 00:35:46.809 --> 00:35:52.090 like apparently I wrote this verse down, who 00:35:52.090 --> 00:35:55.550 knows when, and this sticky note ended up here. 00:35:56.389 --> 00:35:58.570 I don't remember this sticky note being here 00:35:58.570 --> 00:36:00.010 before today. I don't think I've ever seen it. 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.340 And I sit there often too. You do? Wow. Yeah. 00:36:07.739 --> 00:36:13.019 So there's the sweet reminder. We're going to 00:36:13.019 --> 00:36:16.019 wait on him. Yeah. We're going to wait on him. 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.900 We're going to trust him. And waiting isn't... 00:36:19.900 --> 00:36:23.920 Passive. No. No, it's not. It's an act of waiting. 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.400 Yes. It's not just sitting in your lounge chair 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.929 and saying, okay. If he tells you to kick up 00:36:28.929 --> 00:36:30.849 your leg because it hurts and you need to rest, 00:36:31.030 --> 00:36:37.510 that's one thing. But, yeah, it is. It's like 00:36:37.510 --> 00:36:42.869 waiting, like a waiter waits on people. They're 00:36:42.869 --> 00:36:45.769 serving. They're doing. They're being obedient 00:36:45.769 --> 00:36:48.889 in the moment. They're doing what they have been 00:36:48.889 --> 00:36:52.380 asked to do. And during that time. And if it 00:36:52.380 --> 00:36:55.300 happens to be, hey, I kind of have to hide away 00:36:55.300 --> 00:36:59.500 right now and just be still, then do it. If it 00:36:59.500 --> 00:37:03.719 is go and befriend the neighbor that you don't 00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.519 want to befriend because they act nasty to you, 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:09.360 then you need to go do it. If it's your spouse 00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:11.980 who right now you just don't like or you're not 00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:14.679 attracted to or you're having a hard time even 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.420 wanting to be intimate with them, you need to 00:37:17.420 --> 00:37:21.989 do it. You need to be intentional. With your 00:37:21.989 --> 00:37:25.130 time, you need to be intentional with the gifts 00:37:25.130 --> 00:37:29.269 of God that he's given you. Because if you are, 00:37:29.289 --> 00:37:31.789 if we, as the people of God are not intentional 00:37:31.789 --> 00:37:37.510 in these small moments, then when the big things 00:37:37.510 --> 00:37:40.849 do come, we're going to be able to get snuffed 00:37:40.849 --> 00:37:44.369 out fairly quickly. It's true. And then that's 00:37:44.369 --> 00:37:47.269 when we start seeing families falling apart. 00:37:47.550 --> 00:37:55.719 Yeah, it is. And so. We get to wait. Yes. We 00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:59.179 get to find some answers. Yeah. And we get to 00:37:59.179 --> 00:38:02.179 see the goodness of God. And we get to see you 00:38:02.179 --> 00:38:05.380 get better. Yes. And be better than what you 00:38:05.380 --> 00:38:11.159 were before. Yes. Aggressive waiting. Ooh. Yeah. 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:18.360 Ooh, I like that. I am writing that down in our 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:23.579 notes. Aggressive. Yeah. Because it was. I was 00:38:23.579 --> 00:38:25.119 like, because when you were like, you know, we're 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:26.639 going to wait and we're going to find out what's 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.900 going on with my health. And it's like, you know, 00:38:30.900 --> 00:38:32.900 but we're not going to sit there and say, oh, 00:38:32.920 --> 00:38:34.340 well, they're going to, you know, they're going 00:38:34.340 --> 00:38:36.139 to do it on their timeline. It's like, no, we're 00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:37.559 going to knock on doors. We're going to like 00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:39.360 track people down. We're going to kick chairs. 00:38:39.579 --> 00:38:42.519 We're going to, we'll be patient. We'll be respectful, 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.940 but we're not going to wait around on your timeline. 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.840 Right. We'll wait on his timeline. Yes. Yes. 00:38:49.940 --> 00:38:54.840 No. Yeah. No, I like that. Yeah. Aggressive waiting. 00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:59.219 Yeah. Aggressively loving your spouse. Yes. Aggressively 00:38:59.219 --> 00:39:02.699 being part of your children's lives. Yes. Aggressively 00:39:02.699 --> 00:39:05.800 searching out God's heart and finding out what 00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.460 his purpose is. Aggressively speaking into your 00:39:08.460 --> 00:39:13.500 friends' lives. Building them up. Yes. Yes. Yes. 00:39:13.539 --> 00:39:16.659 Because the enemy is not playing. Yeah. You don't 00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:21.579 think he's not being aggressive? Yeah. Game on. 00:39:22.409 --> 00:39:24.150 Because I think almost it's one of those things 00:39:24.150 --> 00:39:25.610 where it's like, because we've had conversations 00:39:25.610 --> 00:39:27.710 before where it's like, you know, hey, I really 00:39:27.710 --> 00:39:29.670 want to say this to a friend, but I don't know 00:39:29.670 --> 00:39:31.510 if they'll take it. Right. I don't know if they're 00:39:31.510 --> 00:39:33.230 in that space where they could receive this word. 00:39:33.289 --> 00:39:38.110 Right. It's like, what if this time that you 00:39:38.110 --> 00:39:42.849 say it is when it hits? Yeah. You know? I'd rather, 00:39:43.670 --> 00:39:45.710 and I said this to our girl last night, I said 00:39:45.710 --> 00:39:48.429 I would rather be faulted on saying too much 00:39:48.429 --> 00:39:51.929 than not saying anything at all. Yeah. I would 00:39:51.929 --> 00:39:55.969 rather be faulted on, well, that was just a little 00:39:55.969 --> 00:39:59.050 extra there, Mom. Yeah. You know what? I told 00:39:59.050 --> 00:40:05.449 you the truth. Yeah. And I am accountable. Yeah. 00:40:05.510 --> 00:40:07.710 I'm not just accountable for what I say, but 00:40:07.710 --> 00:40:09.929 I will also, I believe with everything in me, 00:40:09.969 --> 00:40:11.809 I will be accountable for the things that I did 00:40:11.809 --> 00:40:14.369 not say. Yeah, that's true. And I would much 00:40:14.369 --> 00:40:17.510 rather err on the fact that you know that I love 00:40:17.510 --> 00:40:21.969 you intensely as opposed to silence. Yeah. Or 00:40:21.969 --> 00:40:28.250 maybe not at all. Yeah. So, this is good. Yes. 00:40:30.449 --> 00:40:33.630 Yeah. Happy anniversary, babe. Happy anniversary, 00:40:33.829 --> 00:40:39.130 babe. Happy anniversary. I am happy. I am too. 00:40:42.730 --> 00:40:52.010 You bring peace. And we should wrap this up so 00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:56.469 you don't cry too much. It's too late. Yeah, 00:40:56.489 --> 00:41:00.510 I know. It's too late. Yeah. All right, guys. 00:41:02.489 --> 00:41:05.889 Have the best week. Enjoy the journey.