1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,840 Hello and welcome back to another episode of Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dean'na. 2 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Hey babe. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,840 Hey babe. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,840 How's it going? 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,840 It's good. 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:25,320 We're going to be working on videos soon. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,560 So people can see how crazy looking we are. 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Yes. 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,800 What it takes for us to engage at times. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Yes. 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,880 Because listen, you're tired. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:41,880 I am. 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,880 I'm tired. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,960 Part of me is like, oh, I'm going to have to clean my desk then. 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:46,960 At least somewhat. 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,960 I mean not necessarily. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,880 But maybe we lose the Girl Scout cookies. 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,880 Yeah. 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:54,880 I don't know. 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,880 But it does bring character. 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,280 That shows people that, oh, we have something going. 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,280 Yeah. 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,880 They just show you what season we're in. 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,880 That's true. 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:02,880 Girl Scout cookie season. 26 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,520 It is Girl Scout cookie season. 27 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:10,200 And thankfully when we went to Sam's the other day, because we have not, like, listen, I 28 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,680 don't know where you Girl Scouts are, but like we need to have a map and we need to 29 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,680 have like. 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Or they just need to start selling them online. 31 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Somebody please. 32 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,480 Yeah. 33 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,480 Somebody please because it is it's like, what are we doing? 34 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Because so we go to Sam's and we come out and you're pointing is Sunday. 35 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,920 And so they're closing really fast. 36 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,640 And we're like, OK, we're about to leave. 37 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,000 Sure enough, you pointed the sign and I was like, first thing I said, come out of my mouth. 38 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,440 I look at the lady and I go, where have you all been? 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Where? 40 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Where are you guys? 41 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,880 Is there like, is there an app for y'all? 42 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Helps us track. 43 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,440 It's like, what is it? 44 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,000 My family needs their cookies. 45 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Thank you. 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 It's like, what is it? 47 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:05,040 They talk about how like the pop up like the pop up restaurants, the pop up food trucks. 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,040 Yes. 49 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,160 Where it's like, I'm not going to be in the same location two days in a row. 50 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,760 Follow me on social media. 51 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,040 That's so we where's your social media? 52 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,560 I need to like, is it Girl Scout dog work? 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Girl Scout cookie. 54 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,520 What are we doing? 55 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,520 That actually would be brilliant. 56 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,520 That would be brilliant. 57 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,520 See, I just. 58 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,080 I just marketed somebody's you're going to about to make a million dollars off of that. 59 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,600 Let's bounce on that. 60 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,600 What do we do? 61 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,600 Yeah. 62 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:29,600 Sign me up. 63 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,600 We're about to make some money. 64 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Yes. 65 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,800 So we can fund what we're doing now. 66 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,560 Because dang it, we got to do things. 67 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Yes. 68 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,560 It's important. 69 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Yeah. 70 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,800 We have, we have, we have marriages to save. 71 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,320 We have lives to restore. 72 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,640 We have stuff to do. 73 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:47,640 That's right. 74 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:50,280 We have cows to raise. 75 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,280 Yes. 76 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,880 We have chickens to grow eggs. 77 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Yes. 78 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,880 Ducks. 79 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Ducks. 80 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,360 You are my latest thing. 81 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,760 You are on this thing is I want to try duck eggs. 82 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,480 I want to raise ducks for duck eggs. 83 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Let's try the duck egg first. 84 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,480 Yeah. 85 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Because I've never had one. 86 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Yeah. 87 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,920 She kept saying it's good for baking and I'm like, we don't bake that much. 88 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,720 But if we start making our own bread again and doing the things. 89 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,160 But even then it's like we scramble eggs and do stuff like that. 90 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,640 They say there's because there's more yolk. 91 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,880 They say they're creamier and they just taste better. 92 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,720 I am intrigued. 93 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,720 Yeah. 94 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:25,720 I'm intrigued. 95 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,720 We'll figure it out. 96 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Yeah. 97 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Or if anybody out there has had a duck egg or has ducks and wants to sell us some eggs 98 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,520 or in the market to buy. 99 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Yes. 100 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Yes, we are. 101 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Yeah. 102 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,880 We're all about it because we buy chicken eggs. 103 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,880 We do. 104 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:46,280 From, from friends that have, we bought four this last time because our family likes protein. 105 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:47,280 Yes, we do. 106 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,040 And it is a cheaper source of protein, believe it or not, as much as the egg prices go up. 107 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,040 But ours do not. 108 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Yeah. 109 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,040 They went up a dollar, but that's it. 110 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,040 That's it. 111 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Still, it's fine. 112 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Yeah. 113 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,280 And they are, they are literally farm raised. 114 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Yes. 115 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,240 They have the poop on them and everything's still. 116 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,240 It's awesome. 117 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Every so often. 118 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Just adds more flavor. 119 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,360 I really should probably clean this. 120 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Really should probably. 121 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,240 You know what? 122 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,240 It's not touching the yolk. 123 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,240 It's fine. 124 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Right. 125 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,240 It's flavor. 126 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,240 It's flavor. 127 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Yes. 128 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,240 So how are we? 129 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:27,840 It helps strengthen and teach your gut microbiome how to fight. 130 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:28,840 Yes. 131 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:30,160 It's, it's, it's true. 132 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,160 It's the immune system. 133 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,840 Our immune systems are pretty cranking. 134 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:33,840 Yeah. 135 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:34,840 That's all I can say. 136 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:35,840 It's fine. 137 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:36,920 It's fine. 138 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,560 So how are we doing outside of that? 139 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,560 We're good? 140 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,560 I think so. 141 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,360 Um, anything excitingly important that we need to tell any listeners, catch up anybody 142 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,360 on anything? 143 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,360 I don't think so. 144 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,360 We're building a website. 145 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,360 We're. 146 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,360 Yes. 147 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,360 Yeah. 148 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,800 And I was about to say, yeah, it's like, I know we're working on stuff, but I don't 149 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,400 want to like say too much because I don't want to be like, oh, we're dragging our feet 150 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,400 on this or. 151 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:58,400 I don't, I feel like we've been talking about. 152 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,000 I think this is the first time we've talked about that. 153 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Yeah. 154 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,640 Our second book is out. 155 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,120 Our devotional is out. 156 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,120 Yes. 157 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Eight week devotional. 158 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,120 That's done. 159 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,120 Yep. 160 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:15,400 According to my brother, Bobby, we're like incredibly productive people, which means 161 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,400 a tremendous amount. 162 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,040 And I don't think he would just say that to us, especially because he's one of the busiest 163 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,480 men I have ever met on the planet. 164 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,480 He truly is. 165 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,480 I'm just saying. 166 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,480 Yeah. 167 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,480 But we enjoyed them last time. 168 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,480 Yeah. 169 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,480 When they were here. 170 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,920 I've gotten a lot of good feedback. 171 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,520 There's a lot of people out there that have said how incredibly cute my brother and sister 172 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:36,520 in law are. 173 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,520 And I agree. 174 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,300 Um, but it's neat. 175 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:45,020 It's neat to, um, be surrounded by people that cheer you on that want to speak goodness 176 00:05:45,020 --> 00:05:47,120 over you that want to be life. 177 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,080 Um, and that don't remind you of your past or the pitfalls that might've tripped you 178 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,080 once upon a time. 179 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Yes. 180 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,080 It's a good thing. 181 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,180 It is a good thing. 182 00:05:56,180 --> 00:05:57,680 So that kind of takes us into our thoughts. 183 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:58,680 Yeah. 184 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,680 I think so. 185 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:00,680 A little bit. 186 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:01,680 Yeah. 187 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,680 Do you want to say your thoughts or did you want me to say that? 188 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 I'll let you say it because you, you kind of came up with it. 189 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,120 Okay. 190 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,120 It was really hitting on you. 191 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,120 It did. 192 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,120 It did. 193 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,860 So if anybody out there that listens to us, that listens to In the Real with me and Marcia 194 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:20,040 and Heather, um, I, I got to be sound person. 195 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:29,880 I got to be sound man, um, on this past episode and I had the most wicked, uh, echo in my 196 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,880 headset. 197 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Yep. 198 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,440 And it was bothering me so much that what, like the first five minutes or so I, like 199 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,400 I'd be okay, but then I couldn't shake it. 200 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,200 And then I'd be like, let me try something else. 201 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,840 And then like I'm fiddling with stuff and I'm not as familiar with this board as you 202 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:45,840 are. 203 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:47,880 Um, but I'm learning. 204 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,880 Yes. 205 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,160 And it's like, I'm Tinkren and then all of a sudden Heather's like, I can't air myself. 206 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,200 I was like, Oh yeah, you're right. 207 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,200 That's bad. 208 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,480 Let's turn you back up. 209 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:05,360 And so you just discovered apparently what was going on on the, on the desktop as far 210 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,880 as like just there's a certain. 211 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Yeah. 212 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:16,120 And I had, uh, I had added another layer of effects to try to, because, uh, cause it does 213 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,680 get kind of chilly down here in the studio slash office. 214 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,680 Yes. 215 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:26,600 Um, and so I've got a little space heater and so I added, uh, an effect on the main, 216 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,240 on the, like on the master volume, the master track, um, to try to eliminate the sound of 217 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,240 the space heater. 218 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Right. 219 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:41,840 And then apparently if that effect is on while you're recording, it creates a weird little 220 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,920 echo in the headsets. 221 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,360 It's not like a delay or something. 222 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,360 It's not recorded. 223 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,560 It's nobody else can hear it except for in your headset. 224 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,560 Yes. 225 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Yes. 226 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,120 So then I seem crazy and then Heather wants to give me gummies. 227 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,920 So that way I'm not crazy or at least I'm high. 228 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:00,920 Not the Albanese. 229 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,920 The Albanese that I have sitting in front of me, like the stuff that, you know, makes 230 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,120 you loose it. 231 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,280 So I was in the middle of, uh, working out. 232 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Was this two days ago? 233 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,280 About two days ago. 234 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Yeah. 235 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:24,520 And mama Karen, she ends up sending me a message and she's like, honey, I'm listening to your 236 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,040 podcast and I'm not hearing any echo. 237 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,680 And I said, no, no, no, like it was, I explained to her that it was in my headset that nobody 238 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:34,680 else could hear it. 239 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:40,080 It was just because I'm even asking, I'm looking at the girls going like, am I, am I crazy? 240 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,080 What's going on? 241 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:51,680 Um, and I said, what I finally had to do was I had to find the rhythm of the echo and start 242 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:54,760 playing off of the echo. 243 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:01,160 But instead of being fixated on the fact that I was going echo, echo, like literally, um, 244 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:09,040 I had to fixate my, my focus on what we were talking about and the goal that was at hand. 245 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,560 Because if I kept getting tripped up on the echo, then I was going to be distracted and 246 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:21,440 I wouldn't be able to engage into the conversation or what was happening in front of me. 247 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:30,920 And so I even did like a quick, um, like a blurb out video blurb and it was like, it 248 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,240 hit me. 249 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,720 How many times do we get caught up with the echoes of life, whether it's our past, whether 250 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,920 it's our circumstances, whether it's even what's going on with us today. 251 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:49,880 Um, how many times do we get so fixated on what's going on that the thing that's in 252 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:58,600 front of us, if we're not fixated on the source and fixated on, on the task at hand, then 253 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,840 we're going to get tripped up and then we're not going to be able to move forward. 254 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Yeah, that's true. 255 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Because I know that that voice can come. 256 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:11,480 Um, and it can, you know, at times it can seem just like a little whisper in the background 257 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,280 and you can just ignore it. 258 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,800 Um, you know, it's, it's almost like, you know, it's, it's kind of an annoyance or bother. 259 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:18,800 It's like, that's fine. 260 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,800 It's fine. 261 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,280 It's like it's, it's drawn itself out. 262 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Um, but then at other moments where it's, it's, it's almost like a loud screaming in 263 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,520 your ear. 264 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,520 Right? 265 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,720 You know, and sometimes it's a, here's who you were, here's who you are. 266 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,160 Here's who you'll always be. 267 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Yeah, here's what you did. 268 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,320 You're always going to do that. 269 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Right. 270 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,320 Right. 271 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,760 And then I, and then I thought about, like, cause I'm saying this to you today and you're 272 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,180 like, yeah, let's talk about that. 273 00:10:45,180 --> 00:10:49,840 Cause I immediately thought how many times do we do that with our spouses? 274 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,600 How many times do we do that in our marriages? 275 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Like, here's somebody that's trying to break through to the other side, but they're so 276 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:06,760 caught up in the noise of the, um, disappointments or they're getting caught up in the noise 277 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,560 of, well, you hurt me this at this one place. 278 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:17,840 So I'm going to recoil or it's going to have an echo effect if I see you even remotely 279 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,200 moving into that space. 280 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,920 And it's like that person isn't even that person anymore. 281 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Or they're desperately trying to recover and not be that person anymore so they can heal. 282 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,360 Yeah. 283 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,620 But you're the person that's living with an echo and you're fixated more on the echo 284 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:42,960 than actually trying to regain the ground and make it solid again. 285 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,120 Or I'll throw this one out there. 286 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,120 The echo of comparison. 287 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Ooh, yeah. 288 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:56,120 You know, cause either, you know, either compares comparing, you know, what you have now to 289 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:03,080 past relationships or to, well, you're not like, you know, my, my parent that took care 290 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,000 of me or you're not taking care of me. 291 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:13,320 Like their spouse takes care of them, you know, and it's, it is, it can be, it can create 292 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:19,420 that weird little echo, that weird little voice inside your head that drops just enough 293 00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:21,840 of an edge of a wedge. 294 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,840 An edge of a wedge. 295 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,840 Yep. 296 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,840 I like that. 297 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:30,200 So yeah, but that's what I would, you know, cause that's, that's another one of those 298 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,560 little echoes that I would add into this. 299 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:33,560 I like that. 300 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:34,560 No, I like that. 301 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:35,560 Yeah. 302 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:41,000 So it's like, so how do we drown out the echoes? 303 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,760 Because I know with me, I, I had to be intentional. 304 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,000 I had to be intentional. 305 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,480 First of all, actually, let me back up. 306 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,840 First of all, I had to let other people know that I was dealing with an echo. 307 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Yeah. 308 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,320 I had to, I had to verbalize. 309 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,280 I, I seem to be having, like I can hear myself. 310 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,080 I sound like I'm in a canyon right now. 311 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,080 Or a tin can. 312 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,080 Yes. 313 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,840 I, I am dealing with an echo. 314 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:27,040 And so that way, if I am responding in a manner that does not seem to be, you know what I 315 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,040 mean? 316 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,040 Like, I'm dealing, I'm just, all of a sudden it's like, I'm dealing with an echo. 317 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Like I'm distracted. 318 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,040 Yeah. 319 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,440 Or I, I'm just very, or I seem agitated. 320 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:37,440 Yeah. 321 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:38,440 I was all of the above. 322 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,640 Like I was getting agitated. 323 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:46,600 And then it's like, and then I'm like, I need to let them know what's going on with me because 324 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,160 they're going to think I'm crazy. 325 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Yeah. 326 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,560 Or they're going to just think that like, why, why is she all upset all of a sudden? 327 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:53,560 Like what's going on? 328 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:54,560 You know? 329 00:13:54,560 --> 00:14:00,200 And it's like, I hear an echo and I need to figure out how to fix it. 330 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,640 And it was like, all of a sudden they wanted to try to engage and try to figure out how 331 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,480 they could combat it too. 332 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,880 So it's like, I think one of the things that I am learning that you and I actually have 333 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,920 done over the years in my mind, I'm like, have we ever even talked about this? 334 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,440 I'm not sure we've even talked about this before. 335 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Maybe similar, but not really. 336 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,440 Yeah. 337 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,440 I think we've talked about similar things. 338 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Not necessarily on the podcast, but. 339 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,280 Yeah. 340 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,280 I guess that's what I'm saying. 341 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,840 Like on the podcast, I don't think we've ever talked about this. 342 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,840 I don't think so. 343 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:31,840 Yeah. 344 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,400 So when you and I have an echo and we do, because we both, again, we both have been 345 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,400 married before. 346 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,600 We both have had past before. 347 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,520 We've both been with other people outside of even being married before. 348 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,520 Yes. 349 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,480 And that comes with stuff, right? 350 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Yeah. 351 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:54,520 And there have been times that we have been together, whether very intimately or just 352 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,760 everyday living. 353 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,240 And it's usually me. 354 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,560 We've done it a couple of times, but usually it's me where I'll go to the extreme and all 355 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:13,240 of a sudden, I have a flashback of somebody that is not you. 356 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:19,760 And I either, I kind of recoil from you or I just flat start crying. 357 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:25,560 And I will look at you and I'll say, babe, that's not okay. 358 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,800 I literally, and I will tell you where I was, who I was with, what was happening in that 359 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,800 moment. 360 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,360 So I can paint you with this picture. 361 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:39,280 And it's like, and you, so that way immediately you can come into this space with me and say, 362 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:40,280 you're safe. 363 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Yeah. 364 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,280 You're okay. 365 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,280 I've got you. 366 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,000 I'm not that person. 367 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,840 You know, kind of that reminder, not trying to compare you with somebody, but trying to 368 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:57,480 express to you that right there in that moment triggered something inside of me. 369 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,480 Yeah. 370 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Because I think it's important to bring it to light because A, we are in this together 371 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:09,840 and we want to know when the other one is struggling or being attacked or is dealing 372 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,000 with something or, hey, I just got a weird flashback. 373 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,840 I heard a weird echo. 374 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,840 Yeah. 375 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,560 And you turned over this book and it took me into a weird place. 376 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Yeah. 377 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:28,200 You know, A, it's good to recognize that so that we can, you know, that reminder of we're 378 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,400 in this together and we're going to come at this together and we're going to take care 379 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,400 of this together. 380 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,400 Right. 381 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:39,360 But also it's like, okay, is this a behavior that I need to take care of that I need to 382 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,520 make sure that I don't do this again? 383 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:42,520 Right. 384 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:49,800 Or is this just something that, hey, I'm going to do that again and we need to kind of come 385 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:56,400 together and pray that that gets removed, so to speak. 386 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,680 That's another space that gets to get healed. 387 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,040 I like that. 388 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,700 So it's like, because again, I mean, I use the silly example of flipping over a book 389 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:05,700 or something. 390 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:09,920 It's like, I'm going to flip over books or I'm going to move stuff around and it's going 391 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,920 to happen. 392 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:11,920 Right. 393 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,640 And it's like, hey, the way you did it or the way you said this or... 394 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:18,640 Right. 395 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:25,160 ...and sometimes it's subconscious, sometimes it just happens, but it is, it's that recognition, 396 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,920 it's that calling it out. 397 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:36,320 It's that so often we talk about like sunlight is the greatest disinfectant and how so many 398 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:46,640 things with the kingdom of God and with the kingdom of the earth, the darkness, and as 399 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:54,160 soon as we recognize it, as soon as we call it out for what it is, all of a sudden it's 400 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,960 like that takes the power away from that thing. 401 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Right. 402 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,960 Right. 403 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:06,200 And so it is, it's good to bring that up of, hey, this happened and it made me feel 404 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,920 like this or it reminded me of that. 405 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,920 Right. 406 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,920 Again, it's... 407 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:20,720 I am, it's like I'm going to say it again, it's that reminder of, okay, we'll take care 408 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:26,560 of that and we will remind each other and walk together that we are in this together, 409 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,680 that we are united, that we have the best outlook for each other. 410 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,240 We have, we want to always build each other up and we always want to encourage each other 411 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,800 and we always want to... 412 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:46,400 It's this, we're building this, we have built this and it is, I keep saying together and 413 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,400 you... 414 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:48,400 Yeah. 415 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,400 So yeah. 416 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:50,400 Yeah. 417 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Because I immediately thought of our trip, our most recent trip when we took off kind 418 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,600 of on a quick little Valentine weekend. 419 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:08,000 And you took me and we went walking and you're showing me all these shops and then there 420 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:14,320 were some shops that we just don't go into that or there was one shop that you're like, 421 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,240 I want to show you all of the record shops. 422 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,040 I want to show you all the records. 423 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,200 And I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go. 424 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:28,160 And it was like, you could feel all the feels, all the things, all the stuff that lived there. 425 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:36,840 And it's like recognizing that in a person knowing that... 426 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Saying it in a way, I think saying it in a way to where you're not causing an offense, 427 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,800 you're not causing... 428 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,800 Yeah. 429 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,080 What am I trying to say? 430 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,160 Remind, you're saying it in a way that I'm not attacking you. 431 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,160 No. 432 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,160 I'm coming against this. 433 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Yeah. 434 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Because it's like, you're so excited to show me all the things. 435 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,640 And it's like, I'm excited to be engaged and in this with you. 436 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,100 And the majority of the places that we went were fine and it was good. 437 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:21,160 And then again, the places that you knew that things were there, you're always so sweet. 438 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:22,240 You're so cute. 439 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:26,600 Anybody that ever watches us when we walk, they would think, man, he's awfully aggressive 440 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,400 with her and you're not. 441 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,880 You don't look aggressive at all. 442 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:36,520 But you actually steer me with my hand because we'll hold hands and then you'll like... 443 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560 It's almost like a joystick. 444 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,960 Just kind of move my hand in the direction that we're going. 445 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,000 And it always cracks me up that you do that to me. 446 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,920 But it's a sweet way of just reminding, I've got you. 447 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,200 I've got you. 448 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,200 I've got you. 449 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,360 I'm going to protect you. 450 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:05,400 I'm going to make sure that I do not take us anywhere that is going to cause an echo 451 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,960 because even back when you did the Highland games, we would go and there would be some 452 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,960 Renaissance or some sort of fair stuff that it would be attached to. 453 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,600 And you would start walking us down one space and then you would stop and turn us around 454 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:26,800 and you'd say... because you recognize the things that you used to play with. 455 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:35,840 And it's like, I think when we take the time to get to know our spouse in that kind of 456 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:42,760 capacity and that kind of place, yes, number one, I love what you said, bring it to the 457 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,520 light, it disinfects it and it loses its power on that. 458 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:55,000 But I also like because what you're doing is you're finding out even if it causes your 459 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,920 spouse to get triggered or kind of just go off just for a second, what you've done is 460 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:07,480 you've exposed something that needs to be exposed so that way it can be dealt with. 461 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,760 You're not tiptoeing around it. 462 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,560 It's now can be dealt with. 463 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:18,480 You guys can come up with an action plan on how to handle it. 464 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:25,960 Pray, maybe again, make sure you know where you're going and that if you feel... have 465 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,020 a signal. 466 00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:29,520 Our signal is, are you ready to go? 467 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,720 It's just kind of... or we'll go, hmm. 468 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,480 Our heads tilt and we're just like, nope, we're not going to go here. 469 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,880 We should check out the next store. 470 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,880 We should probably go somewhere else. 471 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,360 Do you want to go... yeah, let's go here instead. 472 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:51,480 But not making the other person feel ostracized or weird about their echo, but helping them 473 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,520 heal. 474 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:03,640 And I think also part of that recognizing and calling it out and healing is when you 475 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:11,160 do call it out and recognize it, you're talking it through, it can be something you can recognize 476 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:18,400 and when you come up with a solution of, is this something that is... can this be an immediate 477 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,880 fix or is this something that needs to be worked on? 478 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,560 Do we need to work on this? 479 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,600 Do we need to call in a pastor? 480 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,560 Do we need to call in a counselor or a therapist? 481 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:38,360 So that's the other part I think that I just thought of when we call these out is like... 482 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:43,960 because I know we're really good at... we have been walking this and we've been working 483 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,000 on a lot of this stuff for a long time. 484 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,240 But it is. 485 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:53,960 We still have things that pop up and it's like, okay, we want to work on this, but this 486 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,480 isn't going to be an immediate fix. 487 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,560 We haven't really run into anything that's been a long term, but we attribute that to 488 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,400 a whole lot of God and a whole lot of conversations and we've done a whole lot of work on ourselves 489 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,760 before we came into this marriage. 490 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,760 Truly, truly. 491 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,760 So yeah. 492 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Yeah. 493 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,480 And I've done a lot of help. 494 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:23,400 I've gotten a lot of help individually from counselors and licensed professionals for 495 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,400 other stuff. 496 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:25,400 Yes. 497 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,400 Sincerely. 498 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,400 Yeah. 499 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:34,560 Because even those echo effects can create those things. 500 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Those things can create the echoes. 501 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,720 They can create like... what is it? 502 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,080 I keep saying like the echo chambers. 503 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Like you get into like an echo chamber or you can almost get into like something that's 504 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:55,520 so deafening that you like all of a sudden your person... what is it? 505 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,720 Someone calls you... you're meant to be. 506 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,720 You're meant to be. 507 00:24:58,720 --> 00:24:59,720 So cute. 508 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:08,080 All of a sudden you're meant to be like freezes or starts responding in a completely something 509 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:17,780 out of their character and it's like have the conversations of how would you walk this 510 00:25:17,780 --> 00:25:19,880 person through it? 511 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,360 What are some things and this is going to be an individual by individual basis. 512 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:31,720 Like I know with you, I'll grab your hand or I'll just... I'll reach for you and just 513 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,800 like to remind you, okay, I'm right here. 514 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,840 I'm right here. 515 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,840 Same with you. 516 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:45,640 It's like just being patient with each other in those places. 517 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:52,480 Because a lot of... I know a lot of my echo stuff came when we're being intimate and having 518 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,800 to... and that's not going to stop. 519 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Like that would totally shut us down in the space that we don't need to be getting shut 520 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,800 down in. 521 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:09,320 You know, and you have to stand back and say, I'm here. 522 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,200 You're safe. 523 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:17,560 And then just that reassurance and reminder that we're going to make it to the other side. 524 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,460 It's going to be okay. 525 00:26:19,460 --> 00:26:26,080 And then the more that you're in that with that person, almost like, hey, focus on me 526 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,880 to see my eyes. 527 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:35,380 Let me pull you farther away from that echo and the farther away we go, the less hold 528 00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:36,880 it has on you. 529 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,880 Yes. 530 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,880 Yeah. 531 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,880 Agreed. 532 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,880 Yeah. 533 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,880 I think that's good. 534 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,880 Yeah. 535 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,880 I think so. 536 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,880 Yeah. 537 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,880 I think we hit it. 538 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,880 I think we... 539 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,480 We're going a little short on this one. 540 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,000 We are going a little short. 541 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000 And I keep hearing noises outside the door. 542 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,000 I know you keep hearing noises. 543 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,000 Yeah. 544 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000 So we're going to... 545 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Yeah. 546 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,400 I think I keep hearing our boy, but yeah. 547 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:05,560 But I would say for this episode, even though it's short, I think it's full of a lot of 548 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,560 impact. 549 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:07,560 Yeah. 550 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,720 And maybe we'll come back and visit this one again. 551 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,720 Yeah. 552 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:11,720 But... 553 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,440 I will jump in real quick. 554 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,440 Yeah. 555 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,400 And I should have looked this up because earlier when you said that we don't think we've really 556 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,400 talked about this. 557 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,120 Yeah. 558 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,320 I think in a way, this almost relates back to the fingerprints. 559 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,320 Yes. 560 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,320 Very much so. 561 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,200 Because I know we have talked about fingerprints. 562 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,600 So in a way, it's kind of similar. 563 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600 They're adjacent topics. 564 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,600 Yeah. 565 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,600 Agreed. 566 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,600 But yeah. 567 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:46,280 But I think just when that revelation hit me, it's like, what do you do? 568 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,520 Because it is, it's the noise. 569 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:56,360 It's the noise and the cares of this world that will get your mind so clouded or so clustered 570 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:02,520 that it's like, you can't think anymore. 571 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:09,560 And then it's like, you can't engage in the things that bring life because death is trying 572 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,960 to so come in and consume you. 573 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,960 Yeah. 574 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:19,840 And it's like, eventually somebody has got to kick in the door, so to speak, even if 575 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,960 it's just, I'm not kicking you, but I literally I'll grab your hand or you'll grab mine. 576 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Yeah. 577 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:35,400 Because it's just reminding each other that we're very much in this, that these things 578 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,520 do not get to determine or dictate who we are today. 579 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,880 Even if we're dealing with something today, it does not get to dictate our tomorrows. 580 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:54,880 We can overcome it by talking it through, by praying it out, and then just re-establishing 581 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,240 those things of, hey, I got you. 582 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,240 Yeah. 583 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:05,120 And I was also thinking that some of these echoes, if we're not careful, can drown out 584 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,080 the voice of God. 585 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,080 Come on, sir. 586 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,500 Yeah. 587 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,200 And that's the enemy's tactic, ultimately. 588 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,200 That really is. 589 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,400 That's ultimately it. 590 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,400 Yes. 591 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,800 So we pray this week that you recognize the echoes. 592 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,800 Yes. 593 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:33,560 And even if it's your spouse now or your partner now that has unknowingly or knowingly created 594 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:40,320 an echo themselves, give them that opportunity to come out of that echo. 595 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,080 Give them the second chance. 596 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,360 Give them the opportunity to prove themselves. 597 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Forgive them. 598 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,360 Yes. 599 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,760 And let them grow, so that way the echo becomes less and less and you guys become whole again. 600 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Yes. 601 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,760 I like it. 602 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Me too. 603 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,760 All right, guys. 604 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Have the best week. 605 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Enjoy the journey. 606 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Good-bye.