1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Hello and welcome back to another episode of Upfront and Undivided. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:19,480 Hi, I totally blanked on what I'm saying. 3 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,840 You're Luke and I'm Dean'na. 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,420 That's it, yes. 5 00:00:25,420 --> 00:00:27,040 That part, yes. 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,160 So I'm going to be honest with you, I think the reason why it threw you is because you 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,760 had eye contact with me. 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:38,040 And I'm sitting in a different space than I usually am when we are recording. 9 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:45,960 And I genuinely do think that that threw you just enough. 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,840 Because I'm sitting where I usually sit with the girls when we record. 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,680 But I'm cocked just enough to where I can see you because usually I can't see you very 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,680 well. 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,680 I do my best to hide. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,120 I do my best to hide when I'm just sound engineer. 15 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,120 Yep, separates us. 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,440 And so I move myself around just enough to where I'm like, okay, I can see you. 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,880 And then I started to move back the other way and you're like, no, don't do that. 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,640 And I was like, oh, I'm moving back now. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,600 And you're like, no, let me finish my sentence. 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,080 I was like, I'm already here. 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,080 So here I am. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Yes. 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,960 Because you're trying to figure out where to put cameras and things of that nature. 24 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:25,680 Because we still have audience people and listeners that still want to see our sweet 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,680 faces. 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,120 We have a mama Karen that's asking, when's that going to start? 27 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,000 When's that going to happen? 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:40,200 And we have one so far and we probably might need to get one more before we start getting 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,760 really moving. 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,760 Otherwise it's going to be kind of a- 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,760 I have a list. 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:52,360 A static shot as far as just the videos on us. 33 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:58,320 And so sorry guys, I was snapping at Sparks. 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:03,440 So yeah, so the first thing that you said before you hit record is I just have a lot 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:11,320 on my brain because we have not recorded and we have not been heard from since Christmas 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Eve. 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Yes. 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:14,640 So happy new year everybody. 39 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:15,640 Happy new year. 40 00:02:15,640 --> 00:02:16,640 Happy new president. 41 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:17,640 Happy new president. 42 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:18,640 Happy new everything. 43 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:19,640 New chapter. 44 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:20,640 New everything. 45 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:21,640 New everything. 46 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:22,640 Yeah. 47 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:29,560 And I think that that's what's been going on in our world. 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,560 A lot of it is just you've got a lot on your brain. 49 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,840 I have a lot on my brain. 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Our book is now officially ready to be- 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Yeah. 52 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:50,280 Taking your vitamins is we're like one step away from officially having it out on an internet 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,920 website so y'all can just purchase it. 54 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:53,920 Yeah. 55 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:58,760 We had to tweak it just while I say you got to tweak it just enough because it looked 56 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,920 a little, just a little enough wonky. 57 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:07,680 There was like a printing, yeah, like the trim marks were showing up on the pages. 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,480 So we had to tweak that. 59 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:16,160 But now that I know what to tweak and how to tweak it, I'm going to do that with our 60 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,160 next book. 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,960 And so that should be, I'll be working on that this week. 62 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,200 And then we'll upload that and then go through the process and then- 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,680 And that's going to be a devotional. 64 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,160 It's a six week to reduce? 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,160 Eight. 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,160 We did get it up to eight. 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,160 We did get it up to eight. 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Okay. 69 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:34,160 We kept going back and forth. 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,160 That's why you hear a little bit of our confusion. 71 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Yeah. 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,160 Mine mostly. 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:42,280 But eight week devotional and it's called, we have it titled, Enjoying the Journey. 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,280 Yes. 75 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,320 And it is a play off of what Luke says all the time, but it's true. 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,440 And it's going to be just fundamental truths and some things that we've learned along 77 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,480 the way on our marriage journey and being a family. 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:04,560 And I will say for those tracking goals, all of the writing was done by the end of December. 79 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,520 All the writing was done by the end of December. 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,720 Because that was it. 81 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,920 It's now just the formatting and uploading it. 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:19,800 So yeah, so probably in two, three weeks, we'll be able to announce, hey, here's a link 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,200 that you can buy these books. 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Yeah. 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,200 So yeah. 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,200 That'll be exciting. 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,200 That will be exciting. 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,200 It's really cool. 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:32,440 I mean, I like that every time we revamp taking your vitamins, we add just a little bit more, 90 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,080 a little bit more. 91 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,640 And so for those of y'all that have gotten the head start copy, it doesn't look too, 92 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:40,640 too much different. 93 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:41,640 But there is a... 94 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,720 We added some note pages. 95 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,120 We did because I don't know. 96 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,600 I think I was just in my brain. 97 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,040 The way that I read, I mean, you watch and you see, literally have a book on our bed 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,880 right now with a notebook. 99 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,620 And I take notes as I'm reading things. 100 00:04:56,620 --> 00:05:02,200 And it takes forever for me to read things because I digest it. 101 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Like I chew on it. 102 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 I work it out. 103 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:11,040 I figure it out, think it out, talk it out, tell you what I'm reading, what my thoughts 104 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,600 are, get your opinion. 105 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,120 And then it's like, and then start writing things down again. 106 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:22,480 And so it just like, eat the meat, but spit out the bones kind of thing. 107 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:28,680 Because again, not everything is worth consuming, but it just seems like it takes me a little 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:29,680 bit longer. 109 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,360 And I was like, that would be kind of a cool thing to do with our book. 110 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,200 And it is a fairly small one. 111 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,680 It's a booklet or whatever they call it. 112 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:45,440 But we wanted to create a space where people could actually just write in the book while 113 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,800 they're... 114 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Even with their spouse. 115 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Almost kind of like a little mini devotional, but not really. 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,440 But yes. 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,440 But it's more of a, what are your thoughts about this chapter? 118 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,160 What are your thoughts about what you just read type thing? 119 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 We... 120 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,760 I am a visual learner. 121 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,880 I'm somebody that writes things out. 122 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:11,640 And I know that I'm not the only person like that. 123 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:18,880 And I've learned through time, through practice, through my own experience, that as I write 124 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,160 things out, as I take the time, I have a tendency to consume it more. 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,760 Not just consume it, but put it into practice. 126 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,480 And it starts becoming the tapestry of who I am. 127 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,600 And so I think that that's our big thing. 128 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:41,160 We want people to be able to pull things from our stories, from the wisdom that we believe 129 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:47,600 that God has given us and that we've learned over almost 13 years. 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,880 And being able to help people apply those in ways that... 131 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:59,360 Okay, you don't have to look like Luke and Dina, but here, maybe gleam this nugget or 132 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:06,280 two, so that way we can help patch up your boat so you don't capsize. 133 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:12,520 Or even if it's, you take this idea that we put and you're like, hey, I could tweak that. 134 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Or that makes me think of this other idea that I can really incorporate into my marriage, 135 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,960 into my relationship. 136 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,400 And it's like, okay, cool. 137 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:29,480 If our books, if our podcasts, if our thoughts, what we put out there, if that serves as a 138 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:37,680 jumping off point for somebody else, I'm excited about that. 139 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,480 I know we've said it from the beginning. 140 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,480 We don't wanna be the authority. 141 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,160 We don't wanna be the end all be all. 142 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,360 We don't wanna have the answers. 143 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,200 But we wanna get people starting conversations. 144 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,720 We wanna get thoughts started. 145 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:59,640 If we can hand out advice, I mean, granted, we're to a degree giving unsolicited advice 146 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,360 because nobody's asked us to do this. 147 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,360 It's true. 148 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:09,840 I mean, people have, but nobody asked us to pry. 149 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,880 But again, it's like, if you can take... 150 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:19,240 If what we're saying, if what we're writing, if what you're seeing, for those of you that 151 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:28,160 see us, if we can just get the process started, if we can get your mind thinking, and it's 152 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,160 just... 153 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:37,440 Again, I had somebody just this past weekend look at me and say, hey, I'm thinking about 154 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,120 starting a podcast this year. 155 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,120 Oh, no way. 156 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,760 I might tap you for ideas. 157 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,760 Yeah. 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,040 Because we've done it. 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Yeah. 160 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,040 That's like, okay. 161 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,040 I love that. 162 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Yeah. 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Because it's... 164 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,480 If we can help people, let's do it. 165 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Absolutely. 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,800 I mean, we helped Cecil and Marcia get started. 167 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Absolutely. 168 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Yeah. 169 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,560 I think it's kind of funny because it's like, I wouldn't so much say that we get to be people 170 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:05,080 that inspire other people. 171 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:10,000 I mean, that's a really sweet way of saying it, but I think it's more of... 172 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,480 I like to think of it as, oh, it must be pretty simple if the wances are doing it. 173 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:16,480 It's not that hard. 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,480 It's really not. 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,400 We're the equivalent of Mikey? 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,400 Yes. 177 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Yeah. 178 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,400 I'll take it. 179 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,400 I'll take it. 180 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,200 Because by golly, that's fine. 181 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:34,000 But yeah, it's like, if we can do it, I mean, anybody can do it. 182 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:41,880 So it's just getting the stuff together and then just go. 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Yeah. 184 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Yeah. 185 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:53,560 And it's like one of the things that I've heard one of our pastors will say every now 186 00:09:53,560 --> 00:10:02,840 and then is, especially when it comes to talking out of the Bible and stuff, or biblical concepts, 187 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:09,560 or relationship concepts and stuff like that, it's like, yes, what you're talking on could 188 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:16,640 have been said by other people, but it hasn't been said from your point of view, from your 189 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,640 experience. 190 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:25,880 And it's like, again, in my mind, we are not breaking ground and, oh my gosh, look at this 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:31,200 world-changing revelation on communication and marriage. 192 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,440 We are world changers. 193 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,800 We discovered this knowledge that nobody has ever heard of. 194 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Because we follow quite a few other couples that we go, ooh, I really like you. 195 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,960 Oh, I like what you guys... 196 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:44,960 I found a new couple. 197 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:50,800 I found a new couple that I don't know their names. 198 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,800 And I apologize. 199 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,720 So I even shamelessly plugged us on their Instagram. 200 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,640 I was going to say, this is online. 201 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,640 Yes. 202 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,640 Well, no, I haven't seen it. 203 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,640 OK. 204 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:01,640 But I tagged you into it. 205 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,640 OK. 206 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,640 Yeah. 207 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,640 There's a lot of stuff I haven't looked at today. 208 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,640 I noticed. 209 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:06,640 It's fine. 210 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,600 You worked, not like you don't actually work. 211 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:09,600 But I went into the office. 212 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,640 But you went into the office where you can't tinker on your phone as much. 213 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,280 But he's English. 214 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,280 She's American. 215 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,120 I don't know where they met. 216 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,960 I'm just now learning this couple. 217 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,300 And they're big fashion people, like influencer kind of people, right? 218 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:31,920 Which is funny to me because I was like, how did you come across my feed? 219 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,080 Except that you're a married couple. 220 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,400 And I like solid married couples. 221 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,000 We like the tattooed couple, the husband and wife. 222 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:47,120 And then we have got quite the slew and array of colorful talkers and colorful people. 223 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,120 Colorful people? 224 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,120 Wow. 225 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,520 My mouth didn't want to do that. 226 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:53,520 So but yeah. 227 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,680 Your mouth doesn't want to be colorful today. 228 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:56,840 It does not. 229 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,320 But this guy literally, baby, he's literally tatted so much that it looks like he has a 230 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:01,320 shirt on. 231 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:02,320 Wow. 232 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,560 And it's intricate, like intricate work. 233 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,840 It literally looks like a shirt with just like sleeves. 234 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Anyway, neither here nor there. 235 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,160 They'll like talk to you while they're getting clothes on. 236 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,160 Yes. 237 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,600 Do you know who I'm talking about? 238 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,520 I think I shot you them. 239 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,520 You might have. 240 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,520 Okay. 241 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,520 Yeah. 242 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,520 Okay. 243 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,400 Because like they were like, I want to say they were like not sober. 244 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,640 And then all of a sudden through sobriety, they found Jesus. 245 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:30,640 And then they found each other. 246 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,640 They found God. 247 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,640 Yes. 248 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,640 And then they found each other and they were celibate. 249 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Yeah. 250 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Because like I think they were both married or something. 251 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,120 I'm going to look. 252 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Okay. 253 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Keep talking. 254 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,120 I'm going to look. 255 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,320 But yeah, they went through while they were dating, they decided to be celibate and all 256 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,320 that. 257 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:50,720 I think they even talked about they would spend the night at one or the other's house, 258 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,120 but like one would sleep on the floor or the couch while the other would sleep in their 259 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,120 bed. 260 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,120 You know, type thing. 261 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:03,200 And you know, so it's like not that full separation, but they still saved themselves for each other. 262 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,280 So I know we sent something to you. 263 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,000 But yeah, every now and then I get kind of thrown by the, you know, get dressed with 264 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,000 us date couple. 265 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,000 Yes. 266 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:16,040 But it's like, I'm not sure how much I want to watch of this, but you guys really, you 267 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,520 guys have fun fashion. 268 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,720 And yeah, it is. 269 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,840 His tattoos are fun. 270 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,400 So anyway, I'm not seeing it. 271 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Okay. 272 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,400 It's fine. 273 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,400 We'll find it again. 274 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,000 But really, really neat couple. 275 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,840 So yeah, they were talking about like first time that they were, you know, today's episode 276 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,120 on their Instagram while they were getting dressed and they have their Gucci and they 277 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,040 have very, very posh. 278 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,040 Oh yeah. 279 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,040 Very nice. 280 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,880 Like I'm looking at their outfits going, um, if this was important to you and I, I think 281 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,760 this is, this is how you and I would dress like very, oh yeah. 282 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,800 Very, um, yes. 283 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Like old school. 284 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:52,800 Yeah. 285 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,000 But with a new twist, it's almost like the like almost like forties. 286 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,000 Yeah. 287 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Like tweed and all the things that you love. 288 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,240 Okay. 289 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,400 So, um, anyway, he's, he's talking about like, he goes, yeah, I haven't, you know, first 290 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,640 time I ever saw her was in her birthday suit was on our wedding day. 291 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:11,640 Yeah. 292 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,640 And you know, everybody. 293 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,240 And so I went on and on about, I gave a quick, like it was roughly that big. 294 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:23,680 I'm showing like three inches worth of my finger space, but I wrote out probably a paragraph 295 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,280 of how we did things. 296 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,280 That's awesome. 297 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,640 And to say that it was really encouraging for me to, and that was why I was like, I'm 298 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:36,440 going to pull my husband into this conversation and I'm going to do a shameless plug about 299 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:37,440 our podcast. 300 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:38,680 And it's not even a shameless plug. 301 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,160 It's just, this is the reason why we started this podcast. 302 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,440 And it was, it was so breath, a breath of fresh air. 303 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,520 I am having, I'm on the struggle bus. 304 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:49,520 It's fine. 305 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,320 Breath of fresh air today. 306 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Um, to just go, we're not in an anomaly. 307 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:01,200 So as much as people make us feel like that at times, Oh my gosh, I could never do that. 308 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Like that's crazy. 309 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Like you guys did what? 310 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,560 And it's like, or the, I didn't even know that was an option. 311 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,960 I didn't even know that was an option. 312 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:14,080 And I thought how beautiful to be able to encounter different people from different 313 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,080 walks of life with different backgrounds, but very similar redemption stories. 314 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,080 Yes. 315 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:25,000 And, and so anyway, I will, I will have to find, I am. 316 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,200 I'm desperately looking for it. 317 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 I can't seem to find it, but that's okay. 318 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Um, because I wanted to, I wanted to say, Hey guys, if you want to follow this couple, 319 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,000 they're really, yeah. 320 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,280 I mean, if they love God, tag them on our stories or something, I will do that. 321 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,000 I will try to, yeah, I will find them and say, you can share their story and journey 322 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,080 with other people because people need to know that we are not the only ones. 323 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Yes. 324 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Like we are not, we are not a magical unicorn. 325 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,560 No. 326 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:59,760 This is genuinely the way that God designed things from the, from the get-go. 327 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:06,440 And we, we came a little bit later to the party and be, but because we saw the fruits 328 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:12,000 and we, because we've, we've seen the benefits of us living our lives like this and starting 329 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,320 our lives like this, like that's, I think that's why you and I are so loud about it. 330 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,320 Yeah. 331 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,320 I think so. 332 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,680 I think that's just simply cause we, we know what we are and that's what I get from this 333 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:24,680 couple. 334 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Like they knew, they know who they were versus who they are. 335 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:37,520 And it's like, in, and then having God, and they know who they can be, which is absolutely 336 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,520 beautiful. 337 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,400 So anyway, that was, um, that was a really long, yeah. 338 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,640 And I'm thinking it's the gummy worm that I ate that's making my tongue weird. 339 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Oh, okay. 340 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,640 You know that film? 341 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Yes. 342 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:49,640 I'm going to go ahead and do that. 343 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Cause my mouth does not want to. 344 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Oh man. 345 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,640 Yep. 346 00:16:52,640 --> 00:17:01,280 She's doing, she's doing weird mouth works. 347 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,720 So we've got a lot going on. 348 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,440 We've had a lot on our plate. 349 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,160 We have missed you guys very much. 350 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,440 Every time that we've thought about, um, coming down here and recording just something else 351 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,480 has been kind of taking precedence. 352 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,240 Um, we're walking into a new season. 353 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,240 Yes. 354 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Um, you are getting back into the groove. 355 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,000 You've got a couple of projects now with woodworking. 356 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Yep. 357 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,520 It has become incredibly blasted cold here. 358 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Yeah. 359 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,840 This morning when I drove to work, my car said it was negative one. 360 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:38,400 And you, and the fact that you, you said that we, um, cause again, we're in the Kansas city 361 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,400 area. 362 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,400 Yeah. 363 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Uh, we broke a record today. 364 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,400 Yeah. 365 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,400 Yeah. 366 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,360 And this morning the, the low, it w it got down not counting wind chill. 367 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,360 It got down to negative seven. 368 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:51,360 Insane. 369 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:56,160 And it has not been that cold since 1935. 370 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,440 And that was not the wind chill. 371 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,440 No. 372 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,440 Yeah. 373 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,440 Negative seven. 374 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,960 And it literally felt like it was like negative 20 something. 375 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Yeah. 376 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,520 To the point where our, our tiny human got, yeah. 377 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,480 Which I do not like, thank you Jesus. 378 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Cause I cannot imagine. 379 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,000 Could you imagine waiting for a bus? 380 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 No. 381 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,000 The answer is no. 382 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,640 I mean, just me walking across the parking lot this morning. 383 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,640 You said it literally froze your mustache. 384 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Not even five steps away from my car and like my mustache felt like it was frozen. 385 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,800 That is, it's no joke. 386 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,120 And then I stepped out just long enough to grab some groceries for the rest of the evening 387 00:18:30,120 --> 00:18:32,920 and for the next couple of days. 388 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,000 And it's not anywhere close to as cold as it was. 389 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,000 No. 390 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,880 But I'm like, well, even, no, you said even when you just popped your head out the door 391 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,280 just to grab Amazon boxes off the porch. 392 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,280 Yeah. 393 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,600 I had an Amazon thing on the front porch and I was like, I'm going to grab it. 394 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,560 And it's so funny cause we have a ring camera. 395 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,560 So like you see it. 396 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,560 Yeah. 397 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:58,280 You're seeing me firsthand and I'm like, oh, literally watching it as it freezes my brain. 398 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,280 Yes. 399 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,280 Like I'm like, why are my eyes? 400 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Why don't my eyes feel like they're ice now? 401 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Why do we live here? 402 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Cause we like it. 403 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,800 We actually do like the cold. 404 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,800 We like the snow. 405 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,800 It's fine. 406 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:19,520 And then you are going to start a new adventure. 407 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Yes I am. 408 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,000 I'm really excited. 409 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,320 And you came home last night very excited about this. 410 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Yes, I am. 411 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,900 For multiple reasons. 412 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:39,360 It's been suggested to me, gosh, what two, three years ago, at least. 413 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:44,960 And I'm finally putting steps and taking action towards it. 414 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,400 But it was suggested to me to try Brazilian jujitsu. 415 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,400 Yeah. 416 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:57,040 So last night was my trial class, my free class, my free try it out, check it out. 417 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,040 Yeah. 418 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,040 See if you get your butt kicked. 419 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,040 Yeah. 420 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,040 It was interesting. 421 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,040 Yeah. 422 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,040 It was, but it was fun. 423 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,040 And I, yeah, I'm pretty excited about it. 424 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:10,080 I'm ready to see where this is going to take me. 425 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,000 I discovered, I knew I was out of shape. 426 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,440 Last night revealed to me just how immensely out of shape I am. 427 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:26,040 But then again, it's like even doing, even when I did go to the gym or, you know, go 428 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,440 for walks and even brisk walks, you know, going at a good clip, you know, even with 429 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:39,200 with sparks, it was like, I don't, that's a new level. 430 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,520 Cardio is not something that you do a lot of. 431 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,520 No. 432 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,520 But even- 433 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,520 I mean, that's my jam. 434 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Yeah. 435 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,520 You've always been the strength guy. 436 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,120 But it's like, it's like more than cardio. 437 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:51,120 Oh yeah. 438 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:52,120 Oh yeah. 439 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:53,120 You know? 440 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,120 So it's just, it is. 441 00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:55,120 It's- 442 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:56,120 It's basically scrappy wrestling. 443 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,120 Yes. 444 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:58,120 Yes, it is. 445 00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:59,120 And they call it grappling, right? 446 00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,120 Yeah. 447 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:01,120 Grappling. 448 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,120 Well, some of it, yeah, some of it, grappling. 449 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:03,120 But it's- 450 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:09,400 But apparently they, when they do their workouts and they're trying and doing, they call it 451 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,400 rolling. 452 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,400 Okay. 453 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,400 Okay. 454 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,400 Yeah. 455 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,400 Yeah. 456 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,200 So when they, you know, you roll on the mats and it's like, okay. 457 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,840 And you literally on one of your warmups, you were rolling on a mat and trying to push 458 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,040 yourself around and you had to get up because- 459 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,040 I did. 460 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Yeah. 461 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,040 It was a little much. 462 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Yeah. 463 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,040 But that's okay. 464 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,040 I genuinely thought I was going to throw up. 465 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,040 It was awesome. 466 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,040 It was interesting. 467 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,040 You get to start from a new space though. 468 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,040 I do. 469 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,040 I do. 470 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:44,120 But the beautiful thing is, is back on Christmas Eve when we did our podcast, and I want to 471 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:48,880 say it was that episode, if not that episode that, no, it was the episode before because 472 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,040 our Christmas Eve episode, we had Sebastian with us. 473 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,040 Yeah. 474 00:21:53,040 --> 00:22:00,920 And the episode before, you had said, we need to get to a point in our lives where we wrestle 475 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,480 things out with God. 476 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Yeah. 477 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,000 And then eventually he wins. 478 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Yes. 479 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000 But you wrestle it. 480 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,960 You don't just lay down on the mat and just let him just pin you. 481 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Yeah. 482 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,440 You literally like Jacob wrestle it out. 483 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,400 And I saw it on your face. 484 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,040 And that is when you said, after we got off the mics, you looked at me and you said, I 485 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,960 think that, babe, I think that's what I need to do. 486 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,960 Yeah. 487 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,640 And then you have gotten a chance to, and I apologize. 488 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,240 I'm just kind of taking your story. 489 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Yeah. 490 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:35,400 But I'm showing, I want to see it from my point of view because you come home and you're 491 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,320 telling me about the main gentleman. 492 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,320 Yeah. 493 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:44,200 They have 22 on one of their flags, which is basically, you want to tell them what the 494 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,200 22 is? 495 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Yeah. 496 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:53,680 And some people say it's like the 22 until none, but the general statistic that is quoted 497 00:22:53,680 --> 00:23:07,240 is 22 veterans commit suicide per day on average. 498 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,240 Yeah. 499 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,240 That's not good, but. 500 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,240 No. 501 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Yeah. 502 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,880 So there's always a lot of awareness. 503 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:24,800 I mean, I know there's always a lot of awareness around mental health and suicide prevention. 504 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:25,800 Totally unrelated plug. 505 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,280 I am super excited, regardless of what other people say, that they changed the hotline 506 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,840 to 9-8-8. 507 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Yeah. 508 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:41,080 So it is something simple that people can remember, but especially veteran suicide awareness, 509 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:49,760 because that is a community that has really hit hard with mental health struggles and 510 00:23:49,760 --> 00:24:00,800 suicide and just a lot of stuff that happens because they're veterans, because they have 511 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:07,680 seen and done stuff that a whole lot of normal people will never encounter. 512 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Right. 513 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,680 Right. 514 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:10,680 So yeah. 515 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040 And so you walked into the arena. 516 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,040 You were able to see that upon the wall. 517 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:25,640 You were able to communicate to the gentleman and let him know where you were, even mentally 518 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,560 with your mental health and with your physical health, why you were there, because that was 519 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,880 the last thing I said to you before you left the garage. 520 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Very, not sternly, but very loudly and not volume. 521 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,440 Baby, make sure that he knows where you are. 522 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:53,320 So that way, when the day comes and you are on that mat and the break does come, the breakthrough 523 00:24:53,320 --> 00:25:02,840 does come through the breaking, then he will be aware and able to get you to the other 524 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,080 space of safety. 525 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:12,880 And when you were telling the story and you said with this gentleman, he says, I do not 526 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:20,680 understand how men go through life without something of this nature. 527 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:29,320 And I know that you and a handful of your friends, solid men of God, very strong men 528 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:37,360 of God, have all come up to the plate and said, we've got to find something for men 529 00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:44,000 to do physically, not just spiritually, like absolutely, let's pray, let's absolutely get 530 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,800 into the face of God, let's absolutely like Jacob. 531 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,080 But something with Jacob, he didn't just bow and hit the floor. 532 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,000 He said, I need you to get something out of me because this thing is going to destroy 533 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,720 me if it doesn't go away. 534 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:05,600 It is, it's something about men being men of action. 535 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,200 You know, it's that. 536 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:18,480 And you know, to kind of get the train back on the tracks, if men aren't men of action, 537 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,800 then we can implode or we can explode. 538 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,720 And I mean, I know we have seen it multiple times. 539 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:36,760 I don't know if we've necessarily talked about it much on this podcast, but a lot of, oftentimes 540 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:48,720 when men don't have an enemy to attack, don't have a plan of action, don't have an objective 541 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,160 to go towards, to fight towards, they will either implode and attack themselves or they 542 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,920 will explode and they will attack the person closest to them. 543 00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,920 That's right. 544 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:00,920 That's right. 545 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:10,080 We've seen, unfortunately, we've seen couples, families almost fall apart. 546 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,560 We've seen couples fall out of church and, you know, almost turn their backs on church 547 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:25,800 because of this conflict that comes from, you know, and again, it's through no fault 548 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,080 of their own. 549 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:35,560 You know, this is the amazing way that God designed us, you know, so that we can battle, 550 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:44,360 so that we can do these hard things and that we can take the fight to the enemy. 551 00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:54,080 I think, unfortunately, in our society, too many people have deemed that bad and now all 552 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,360 of a sudden it's like, well, what are men supposed to do now? 553 00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:58,360 Right. 554 00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:59,360 Right. 555 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,160 That's why the enemy wants to emasculate you guys in such a rapid pace. 556 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,160 Yeah. 557 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:10,320 Why we have seen such an onslaught on men. 558 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:17,880 You know, we talk about the onslaught of women, like, you know, that just side note, but like 559 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:27,160 just kind of the, unfortunately, the men wanting to be women and they talk about like how women 560 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:35,040 are, you know, their sports arenas and different things and the attack on that. 561 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,520 So, once you said that, like all of a sudden, like I know this, but like something dropped 562 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,880 into my spirit and said, no, it's the attack on men. 563 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,400 It's ultimately the attack on men. 564 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:55,920 When this man is in such a space where he has not fought and wrestled things out in 565 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:03,480 a healthy manner in a way that deems him worthy to be male. 566 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,400 Like what deems you worthy to be male is you're born male. 567 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,920 I mean, it's just that simple. 568 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,840 You don't have to be, you don't have to be six, three. 569 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,520 We are born with a mandate on our lives. 570 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,320 You're born with a mandate on your lives and however that looks. 571 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,960 And so the enemy literally coming in and stripping that mandate off of you. 572 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:27,840 And then, and then ultimately when the man doesn't step into the arena in the, in the 573 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:34,560 capacity of how he was created and who he was supposed to be, it, it literally deems 574 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:42,640 the woman. 575 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,240 It forces them to get out of them, outside of themselves and step into a role that they 576 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,240 are not designed for. 577 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,240 That we weren't designed for either. 578 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,240 Yeah. 579 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Yeah. 580 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,400 It's just, it's just horrible. 581 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,400 Yeah. 582 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,640 It's just horrible. 583 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,280 And so I applaud you, babe. 584 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,280 Thank you. 585 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,280 I applaud you. 586 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,200 I applaud you for stepping into the space and not letting it take you out. 587 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,200 Yeah. 588 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,600 I know you and I talk really well, I talk more gruff than you do. 589 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,600 It's so funny. 590 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:19,920 Was it the first, one of the first months or two you and I were walking somewhere and 591 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,360 you lovingly turned and looked at me and said, if anybody even had a clue. 592 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Yeah. 593 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:33,680 Between the two of us, but it's like, I, I know that I speak aggressively with you when 594 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,520 it comes to certain things. 595 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Yeah. 596 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:45,640 And I know, and guys, please, before anybody comes at me, understand that I, I, you can 597 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800 attest or you can tell me or you can correct. 598 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:53,160 I do it respectfully as best as I can. 599 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,960 And I'll interject real quick. 600 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,360 I like the way you said it. 601 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Yeah. 602 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,280 You speak aggressively with me. 603 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Yes. 604 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,280 Not at me. 605 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,280 Not at you. 606 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,280 Yeah. 607 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,280 With you. 608 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,280 Yeah. 609 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,280 I talk to that thing that tries to take you out. 610 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,280 Yeah. 611 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Just like you do it with me. 612 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,280 Yeah. 613 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Just like we do it with our children. 614 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,280 Right. 615 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,280 It's, I'm going to speak to that thing and it's going to sound like I am coming at you, 616 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880 but I want you to understand I am for you. 617 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,880 I am for you. 618 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,880 I'm not against you. 619 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,360 What? 620 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:27,120 It's, because again, it's, my mind goes, I think you're rubbing off on me all the things 621 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 that you see in words. 622 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,560 I love it. 623 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:37,720 But again, we want to cultivate this and we want to, you know, we, I, all of a sudden you're 624 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,600 talking about, you know, you're talking gruffly at that thing that's trying to sit on you, 625 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,840 the enemy that's trying to drag you down. 626 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:52,960 And I pictured preparing a garden, you know, like tilling and breaking up the hard soil 627 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,040 before you plant or ripping out weeds, you know, between plants. 628 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,720 It's like, that's not gentle. 629 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,200 No, you got to be aggressive. 630 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,320 I'm being aggressive near the plants that I want to save. 631 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,320 Yes. 632 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,320 Yes. 633 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:14,600 You know, I'm not harming the plants that are bearing good fruit, but I'm ripping out 634 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:22,040 the weeds or before I can even, you know, as I'm getting ready to put seed, good seed 635 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:29,680 in the soil, in the good soil, I'm taking a machine or an implement of some kind that's 636 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,680 wood and metal and stabbing and destroying and breaking up the hard ground. 637 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,680 That's so good. 638 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,680 That's good. 639 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Yeah. 640 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Yeah. 641 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,680 So that's where my mind went. 642 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,680 No, I love that. 643 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,680 No, I love that. 644 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,760 I love that. 645 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,520 And so what it does is it helps provoke, it helps provoke change. 646 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,320 It helps provoke. 647 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:56,520 It helps cultivate an atmosphere in a space where you are able to say, all right, babe, 648 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040 then this is what I'm thinking I want to do. 649 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,040 Yeah. 650 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,040 Okay. 651 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,140 It's not me forcing you to go work out with me in our workout room anymore. 652 00:33:06,140 --> 00:33:14,000 It's not forcing you into a space of, hey, you know that I have to work out. 653 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Like I have to for my mental health, for my sanity, for my physical wellbeing, my body 654 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,560 craves it. 655 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720 It has to have it if it doesn't. 656 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,000 We see what happens to me. 657 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,640 And you are not built the same as much as you get in there, you throw weight, you're 658 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,240 good at it. 659 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:40,480 You're consistent with it, but it's like, I see where God is taking you into a deeper 660 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:47,000 level of something and he's ready to cultivate something even greater inside of you. 661 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,400 And it's going to look different and sound different. 662 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:57,360 Like rolling around on a mat, wrestling with people, with men, because you, I've already 663 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,200 said to. 664 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,400 But it's like, that doesn't sound fun to me. 665 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,800 Like a little bit, a little bit. 666 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,160 And I just think it's my personality. 667 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,720 I used to say it's because I was raised with brothers, but I just think it's my personality 668 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,200 though too. 669 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,640 But I want to do hard things. 670 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,880 I like to do things that are physically challenging. 671 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,960 It's like, but this doesn't seem like something that I, that would be in my wheelhouse, but 672 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,760 this is where you are. 673 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:36,240 This is a new part of the journey that you get to do and you get to go do it kind of 674 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:42,960 on your own, you know, and then we get to watch what happens. 675 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,120 We get to watch what happens. 676 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:53,920 We get to see you pushing things up and out and making space for the next space that God, 677 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,760 for the next thing that God wants to do. 678 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,080 Yeah. 679 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,160 I'm excited. 680 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680 I am too. 681 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,120 It's been a second since I've seen you get, like, you're literally sending me things. 682 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,520 Babe, what about, you're gonna buy this? 683 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,520 What do you think? 684 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,720 But it's going to be good. 685 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,720 So that's a lot of, that's a whole lot of stuff. 686 00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:18,720 That is a whole lot of stuff. 687 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:23,720 And that did not go anywhere near what I thought this episode was going to go. 688 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:28,280 And what my original idea, I think we might have to save it for next. 689 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,280 Okay. 690 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,840 Just, I mean, we're already 35 minutes in. 691 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,840 Are we really? 692 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,840 Yeah. 693 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,840 That's funny. 694 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,840 Yeah. 695 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:35,840 That's funny. 696 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,040 I mean, we could end it right now and this just be an episode, but it's like, I almost 697 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:42,240 want to, it's like in a way, I almost want to flesh this out just to touch more. 698 00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,240 Come on. 699 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:50,640 But I don't, it's like, I don't know how, but it's, it is, it's that, you know, it's, 700 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:57,880 it's that thing that you were just saying about how, you know, with, with me going into, 701 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:04,940 you know, BJJ, the, the jujitsu and all that, and the, the grappling and all the basically 702 00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:05,940 fighting. 703 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:06,940 Yeah. 704 00:36:06,940 --> 00:36:08,840 I mean, that's literally what it is. 705 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,840 Yeah. 706 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,280 You know, but it is, it's like, don't let, don't let them mess up your moneymaker though. 707 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,920 Yeah, I'll do my best. 708 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:25,640 But it's like this, you know, this could be my thing that, you know, helps unlock and 709 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,200 move and propels me forward. 710 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,760 Yeah. 711 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,680 You know, and, and it's like, you know, whereas with you, it is, I could see you getting this 712 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:46,760 kind of relief, release, pushing forward. 713 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:53,920 I'm trying to grab the right word or words and it's, it's, but it's like, if I know you've 714 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,400 talked about doing like half marathon and like doing like, Oh, you know, what about 715 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,400 this 5k? 716 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,400 What about that 5k? 717 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,400 It's like, I could see that. 718 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,400 I love doing the obstacles and the things like that. 719 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,400 Yeah. 720 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,080 And, and see, and I almost mentioned that earlier, you know, the obstacle courses, that's 721 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:16,440 like, that's, it's like, I could see that as you're like, that's my fight is the obstacles. 722 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,800 I remember distinctly when you and I did the Tough Mudder, right? 723 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,600 And then we were, we were running with our sweet, sweet front. 724 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,600 Yeah. 725 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,040 And 12 miles in the freezing cold. 726 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,040 Seriously. 727 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,040 It was insane. 728 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,040 It was beautiful. 729 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,760 The day before a storm blew in and it literally dropped. 730 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,520 It went from like what, like seventies and sunny. 731 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,760 It was like overcast and low 40s. 732 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,760 It was insane. 733 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,760 And drizzly. 734 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,440 My lip is turning blue. 735 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,840 My lips are turning blue. 736 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,520 They're chattering where the one that was head over, just like I jumped in one thing 737 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,520 of water. 738 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,520 I come out. 739 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,840 He looks at me and goes, you are not getting any more water. 740 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,840 We're done. 741 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,320 Cause there was 13 of us, roughly about 13 of us that were doing it together. 742 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,040 And I felt bad cause I was like, we're the ones that get, Oh, we're the gym rats. 743 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,040 We keep doing the things. 744 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,120 And I was like, this is a completely different space. 745 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Completely different space. 746 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,040 Like this is, I am, am I strong at all? 747 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120 I do not feel strong at all. 748 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:19,000 But it, it was so funny because it's like, you know, here we're doing these obstacles 749 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:25,240 that are pushing you past your limits, not to your limits, but past your limits. 750 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:28,640 And they're pushing you in places where you can't get there by yourself. 751 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,280 You have to have somebody help you. 752 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,440 And even though you are fighting in this ring by your, by yourself, you're fighting against 753 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,360 somebody else that is also trained to work something out in their own way. 754 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,760 And then you've got somebody that's overseeing you to making sure that everybody is safe, 755 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400 but everybody's getting what they need. 756 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,400 Right? 757 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:55,960 And so it's like, with these obstacles, I'm, I'm standing back going, I am not equipped 758 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,960 for this. 759 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,720 I did not, I did not train in the proper way that I needed to. 760 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:00,720 Yeah. 761 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:01,720 Neither one of us did. 762 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:06,720 You're just wicked like strong and you can just pick me up and throw me wherever you 763 00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,200 need to put me. 764 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,200 Or there was that one obstacle. 765 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:16,560 It was like, you know, from here to, from point A to point B, carry your partner halfway 766 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,560 and then switch. 767 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,360 And then your partner carries you. 768 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,240 And I looked at you and I'm like, I'll just carry you point A to point B. 769 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:23,240 And it was through the mud. 770 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:24,240 It was through the mud. 771 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,240 It wasn't even like on bare ground. 772 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:27,520 Almost ankle deep mud. 773 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,520 Yes. 774 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,120 It was no, it was no joke mud. 775 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,880 And, and you were like, I am not, I am not going to have you. 776 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:42,400 The reality is this, if you popped on my back and even if I could carry you, your feet would 777 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,320 be dangling in the mud with us. 778 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:50,120 I mean, it just, that's because guys listen, he's literally 11 inches taller than me. 779 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,560 I don't know what else to say. 780 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,520 Like you're almost a solid foot. 781 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,920 And I have over a hundred pounds on you. 782 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,520 And you have over a hundred pounds on me. 783 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,600 And it's like, and this is why I work out. 784 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:06,040 So it's like, I need to be able to, you know, sustain and be healthy. 785 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:11,600 But it is, it's, it's, and then when we did that one with Heather, you know, as far as 786 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:17,900 the mud and then Heather and me and Marsha and a whole bunch of us did it all together. 787 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:19,640 And it was a muddy princess. 788 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,620 And it was literally trudging through the mud. 789 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:27,480 And it was beautiful because it was like, it was, it's, it pushes you, it pushes you 790 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:35,960 in places and it causes you to put yourself in situations that in everyday circumstance, 791 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,760 you would not, you won't be here. 792 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,400 Now, even on your probably absolute worst day, probably won't have something of this 793 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,400 nature. 794 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:49,000 But the fact that it takes you, your mind into a space of saying, I may never have to 795 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,320 ever use this, but I can, right? 796 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,320 I know I can. 797 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,320 Yeah. 798 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,320 I'm capable. 799 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,320 Yeah. 800 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:02,280 I, I, I can do it's cliche, but it is, I can do hard things. 801 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,280 Yeah. 802 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:10,400 And I mean, in a way it reminds me, I think it's a, I think it's an old Japanese proverb 803 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,400 that talks about it. 804 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,400 And, and I know I have, I think I've said it about other things because, because again, 805 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,280 it's the, whether it's the training for an obstacle course or doing hard things or the 806 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:29,760 BHAJ or carrying a firearm or whatever it's the old proverb is it's better to be a warrior 807 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,200 in a garden than a gardener in a war. 808 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,200 Yes. 809 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,200 Yes. 810 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,480 I mean, everybody just sit in that for a second. 811 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,800 Say it again. 812 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:48,360 It's, it's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. 813 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,880 Cause I mean, it even talks about that in Nehemiah. 814 00:41:54,880 --> 00:42:00,440 I mean, to it, to a degree, you know, it's, it's the whole, you've, you've got a weapon 815 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,880 in one hand and a tool in the other. 816 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,880 Yes. 817 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640 You know, the, the walls of Jerusalem were broken down. 818 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,640 Yeah. 819 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,720 Nehemiah says, you know, Hey, give me permission to go rebuild the walls. 820 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:14,720 Yeah. 821 00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:15,720 Okay. 822 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:23,640 You know, and the enemies of Jerusalem were watching them rebuild the walls and you had 823 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:30,920 people literally standing in the gaps of the walls, literal gaps of the city walls and 824 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,080 people standing there while they're trying to fix it. 825 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,080 Yeah. 826 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,880 But also having a sword ready in case they decide, Hey, let's attack. 827 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,840 They're just, they're, they're throwing mud and mortar right now. 828 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,840 Let's go. 829 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:44,840 That's crazy. 830 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:57,320 But, but, but I think that that, I think that that is what we are stepping into right now. 831 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,320 Yeah. 832 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:03,960 Because that's what you physically, cause again, you're going into a new arena, literally 833 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,960 an arena. 834 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,960 Yeah. 835 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,960 You're going into a new space. 836 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,560 You're learning new skills. 837 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,160 You're doing things that are outside of your comfort zone. 838 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,160 Yeah. 839 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,820 You're, you're mentally having to wrap your brain around certain things. 840 00:43:18,820 --> 00:43:22,000 And then there's other things that you get to let go. 841 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:31,040 And those that follow us at all or follow me individually see that I on Instagram say 842 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,040 road to 50. 843 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,040 Yeah. 844 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,720 I've been doing this road to 50 thing. 845 00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:35,720 Right. 846 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:44,400 And it's like, if we do not cultivate out a space every day that says, I've got to do 847 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,400 better. 848 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,400 Yeah. 849 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,400 I've got to be better. 850 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:53,600 I'm not, I'm not competing against the girls. 851 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,360 I'm not competing against you. 852 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,360 Yeah. 853 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,880 I'm not competing against the other 50 year olds that are around me. 854 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,600 I'm competing against me. 855 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,600 Right. 856 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:10,080 I, I want to see, it's like the sweatshirt that I had made that says, I want to see what 857 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,480 happens if I don't give up. 858 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,480 Yeah. 859 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,000 I want, I want to see what happens. 860 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,160 You want to see what happens when you don't give up. 861 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,680 You want to see what happens when you stand in the gap for the 22. 862 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,360 You want to see what happens. 863 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:33,280 You want to be able to stand in front of the possible 22 and say, grab my hand. 864 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,960 It's going to, we're going to make it to the other side. 865 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,360 We're going to grapple this out and we're, and we're going to be better. 866 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:46,320 And we're going to, we're going to annihilate those demons that keep trying to come. 867 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,320 Yeah. 868 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:54,360 And I think, like I'm listening and I'm, I'm also like trying to split my brain because 869 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:59,120 I'm like, Oh no, like the logistics part of logic and all in was like, Oh no, what are 870 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,480 we going to call this episode? 871 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,740 It's like, uh, we'll figure it out. 872 00:45:02,740 --> 00:45:07,160 But it's like, but in my mind, it's like, I'm, I am, I'm, it is, it's that road to 873 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,160 50. 874 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:12,000 It's that competing against our ourselves. 875 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,240 You know, when, when we're in a marriage, we're, we're not comparing and competing 876 00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:19,000 against other couples. 877 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,800 It's how can we do better as a couple? 878 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,000 How can we do better as parents? 879 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,640 You know, again, not trying to think, Oh my gosh, you know, I mean, we had a conversation 880 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,400 the other day about, you know, Oh my gosh, you know, why, why is it that that couple, 881 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,520 you know, has such a better house than us? 882 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,000 Or how come that couple, you know, our daughter's friend, you know, how come they always want 883 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,840 our daughter's clothes and stuff? 884 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:46,840 It's like, you know, we can't, we can't, you know, it's what are we doing? 885 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:54,040 And as I was thinking that I was, I was, I was thinking for some reason I'm going back 886 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,520 to Nehemiah, but that's what we get to do for our marriage. 887 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,640 And I want to figure out how to make a t-shirt out of this or something or some kind of design. 888 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,920 Are you writing this down? 889 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,200 I'm not writing this down. 890 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,200 Okay. 891 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,640 Um, cause I know you're going to listen to this tomorrow morning and you'll write it 892 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,160 down. 893 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:25,680 But what we get to do is as a married couple, we get to carry that weapon and that tool. 894 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,760 We get to fight off the attacks of the enemy that are trying to drive a wedge between us. 895 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,640 We get to fight off the enemy that's trying to whisper and take us down at our ankles 896 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:43,320 and our knees by finding our buttons and finding our weak points. 897 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:50,960 And we get to use that tool to build each other up, to help build the wall around our 898 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,960 marriage, not necessarily to keep other people out, but to strengthen our bond together. 899 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,960 Right. 900 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:58,960 Right. 901 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:05,600 And I think, I think, I don't know, I think that would be like, if we could figure out 902 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,040 like, especially with firm footing. 903 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,040 I have something in my head. 904 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,040 Yeah. 905 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,040 No, I know. 906 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,040 Yeah. 907 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,040 That's why I'm like, babe, t-shirt idea. 908 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,040 No, that's good. 909 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,840 So yeah, but it, but it is cause cause that's, that's what we get to do for each other. 910 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:28,360 You know, it's, you know, those, those moments where I'm weak and maybe don't have the strength 911 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,120 to pick up my own sword. 912 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,120 Right. 913 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:37,960 You can help me pick up my sword and, and in a way, watch over me with yours while I 914 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,640 take a couple of deep breaths. 915 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,640 Right. 916 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,080 And get back up on my feet and I do the same for you. 917 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,080 Right. 918 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,000 You know, when those, when those voices and those things come into attack you, I'm there. 919 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:54,220 I can see them coming behind you so I can tell you, Hey, behind you, or I can just go 920 00:47:54,220 --> 00:47:55,560 ahead and step there. 921 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,560 Yeah. 922 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:01,320 And at the same time, it's like, Hey, I see the enemy put a pretty good crack right there. 923 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,320 Yeah. 924 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,920 Let me, let me, let me back load up for you so you can be solid so we can march this out 925 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,920 together. 926 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:07,920 Right. 927 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,920 So yeah, no, that's good. 928 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,920 Yeah. 929 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,920 That's good. 930 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,920 So yeah, I have it in my head. 931 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,440 Yeah, no, I see it. 932 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,440 I know. 933 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,480 It's like, I knew you would. 934 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,880 It's like, I just, I just need to talk it out. 935 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,880 It'll be there. 936 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,880 We don't need to write. 937 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:32,040 Yeah, like a very, a very loose interpretation of what I see in my brain. 938 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,040 Yeah. 939 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,040 Yeah. 940 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:35,040 No, that's good. 941 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,040 Yeah. 942 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,040 That's good. 943 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,920 I think that that's, that's who we need to be for each other. 944 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,080 Yes. 945 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,480 When it comes to this new year. 946 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,320 Yes. 947 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480 This new part of the journey. 948 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,480 Yeah. 949 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,080 Because again, like we said at the very beginning of this, we are not an anomaly. 950 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,720 No, we are not the only ones that are dealing with any of these things. 951 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:07,320 We're not the only ones that are standing back and saying, there's something, there's 952 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,000 something going on right now. 953 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,880 Like husbands and wives are looking at each other right now. 954 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:17,080 And if you guys are being honest, you're probably going, hmm, yeah, there is something that 955 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,960 is like deep inside me that I can't seem to quite. 956 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,960 Yeah. 957 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,120 I can't quite seem to get it. 958 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,360 There's a nagging thought that I can't quite. 959 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:36,120 And if I don't, and if I don't do this properly or if I, if I can't hash this out in a productive 960 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,840 way that's healthy, this is going to destroy me. 961 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:41,840 Yeah. 962 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,080 And then ultimately us. 963 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,080 Right. 964 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,080 Yeah. 965 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,720 And so take this time this week. 966 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:50,720 Yes. 967 00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:57,560 And sit with each other and say, like, I know people talk about the new year's resolutions. 968 00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,560 Our family is not a resolution family. 969 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,640 We are a declaration family. 970 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,700 We are a family that declares, we are a family that prophesies. 971 00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:10,380 We are a family that speaks the word of God in truth. 972 00:50:10,380 --> 00:50:19,540 We are a family that gets at the feet of Jesus in the throne room of grace and says, father, 973 00:50:19,540 --> 00:50:20,880 what new thing are you doing? 974 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,880 Yeah. 975 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,880 What do we get to do this year? 976 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:23,880 Yeah. 977 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:29,240 Cause like we had a snowstorm that literally locked us in kind of for like almost a week. 978 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:30,240 Yeah. 979 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:35,120 And the moment that we got a chance to break out, you took me to go get paint. 980 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,120 Yeah. 981 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,720 And I proceeded to paint our kitchen. 982 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:39,720 Yeah. 983 00:50:39,720 --> 00:50:41,560 Paint the other half of our living room. 984 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,800 Cause one half was already painted, but the other half of our living room and then- 985 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:45,880 Actually just a wall. 986 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,880 Just a wall. 987 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,880 Yeah, just a wall of the living room. 988 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,520 And then, which is the other half of the living room, which is funny. 989 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,240 It's just the way that our living room set up. 990 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,240 Anyway. 991 00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:58,080 And then our half bath. 992 00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,080 Yeah. 993 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,560 But you did it not just because, oh, it's my wife. 994 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,080 She's just decorating again. 995 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,080 Yeah. 996 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,240 You did it because you saw that there was something inside of me and all I could say 997 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,520 was, babe, this is what I feel like I'm supposed to be doing right now. 998 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,520 Yeah. 999 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,240 And you know that I've been sitting on this for a while. 1000 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:17,240 Oh yeah. 1001 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:22,040 But you also know that I wouldn't have felt like I was supposed to do it if I didn't feel 1002 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,480 like I was being led. 1003 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,480 Yeah. 1004 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:31,600 And so even if it's in those small things, like we were talking about your coworker and 1005 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,640 him and his wife and their project going on. 1006 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,880 And after I made my very quick comment, and again, I apologize if he listens to us at 1007 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,880 all. 1008 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,880 I am sorry. 1009 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,440 I talk, I kind of spoke out of turn. 1010 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,840 But what if your spouse is trying to work something out? 1011 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,840 Yeah. 1012 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,840 Yeah. 1013 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,720 Understand that we're built differently. 1014 00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:55,720 Yeah. 1015 00:51:55,720 --> 00:52:04,400 Understand that what your husband, how he works out things, his salvation with fear 1016 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,520 and trembling is going to look different than your wife's. 1017 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:14,200 Like maybe that's just the way that it silences the noise. 1018 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:21,960 Maybe if that's the way that creates the peace that seems to be trying to literally knock 1019 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,120 on the front door of your home. 1020 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,120 Yeah. 1021 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,920 And I was, I'm really glad that you said that because I was almost, I was like, hey, I need 1022 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:38,320 to add this. 1023 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,240 Nobody out there listening to us needs our permission. 1024 00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:42,240 No. 1025 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:50,800 I want to say this as kind of a, I'm going to put it out there just because. 1026 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,160 Yeah. 1027 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,240 Take that time. 1028 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,800 No. 1029 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,760 Sometimes equipping and training needs to take place individually. 1030 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,520 That's good. 1031 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:07,840 And that's okay. 1032 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,840 That's good, babe. 1033 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:15,320 But again, it's like you running and going to the gym or working out in our home gym 1034 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:23,080 is different than me going to hitting the mats and grappling. 1035 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,280 Those are going to be different things. 1036 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:29,880 We are not always going to train and equip ourselves in the same arena. 1037 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,360 Right. 1038 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,840 There are going to be things that we do together. 1039 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,600 Yes. 1040 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:43,000 But not all of the equipping and not all of the training and not all of the prep work 1041 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:48,400 to strengthen your marriage, to strengthen yourself is going to take place side by side 1042 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,400 with your spouse. 1043 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,400 That's right. 1044 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,400 That's right. 1045 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:59,520 And don't, I know I'm guilty of it, but don't feel guilty if when those times come, it's 1046 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:06,520 like, hey, I need to do this on my own so that I can be better for us. 1047 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,520 That's it. 1048 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,520 That's it. 1049 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:09,520 That's it. 1050 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,200 So and again, it's like I don't need nobody needs our permission, but it's like I want 1051 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,240 to say this as a way of yes, do this. 1052 00:54:19,240 --> 00:54:20,240 This is okay. 1053 00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:21,640 This is a good thing. 1054 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:22,640 Yeah. 1055 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,920 Because it is sometimes we did like, yeah, yeah. 1056 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,920 No, that's good. 1057 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:29,920 Yeah. 1058 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,920 That's good. 1059 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,920 Yeah. 1060 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,200 So this is a good episode. 1061 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,080 I did this completely not where I thought it was going to go. 1062 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,080 This was awesome. 1063 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:45,280 This turned out fun. 1064 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:46,280 It's going to be good. 1065 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,280 Yeah. 1066 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,040 We are not going to promise you when you're going to hear from us again. 1067 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,160 Yes. 1068 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,560 You will hear from us. 1069 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,560 Yes. 1070 00:54:54,560 --> 00:55:01,160 But we are going to do our best to stick to an every other week release calendar release 1071 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,160 schedule. 1072 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,160 Yes. 1073 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:08,640 Just be patient with us because you heard what's going on. 1074 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:15,120 And we are now learning how to lean into a new rhythm. 1075 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,440 Yeah. 1076 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,800 And it's good. 1077 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,960 Yes. 1078 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,840 And it will make us better for the kingdom of God. 1079 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,160 It will help make us better for each other, for our children. 1080 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,440 And it will ultimately will also help us be better for you guys. 1081 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,520 Yes. 1082 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,240 So just stay tuned. 1083 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:37,240 Yes. 1084 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:38,240 Stay sharp. 1085 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:39,240 Yes. 1086 00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:41,200 Grapple it out, guys. 1087 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,720 Figure out what it is that God's doing. 1088 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:51,600 Not all irritation. 1089 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,760 Not all dissatisfaction. 1090 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,400 Yeah. 1091 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,400 Is of the enemy. 1092 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,400 Yes. 1093 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,760 A lot of times it's God putting that pebble in your shoe and saying, let's talk about 1094 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:04,760 it. 1095 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,760 Yeah. 1096 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:06,760 All right, guys. 1097 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:07,760 Have the best week. 1098 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:27,760 Have a good journey.