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Hello and welcome back to another episode of Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dean'na.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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How's it going?

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It's good.

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I was looking over, you saw me.

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I did.

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You were like, what are you looking at, babe?

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I'm literally looking at your book, Strength Finders, thinking, I need to read that.

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And then I was looking at your devotional on the floor, The Hero's Journey, and I was

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like, oh, I wonder how that's going or if that's going.

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It's not.

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It's not?

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It's not.

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Okay.

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That's okay.

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I haven't touched it.

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Okay.

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I'm going to grab that book though.

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Yeah.

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Because I was thinking that I know that we bought some books and I need to start doing

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some reading and strategizing and developing my skill sets and things like that.

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All the big words, all the fancy lingo for when we help people in their relationships.

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So but Strength Finder.

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And to be ready for when I take the class.

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Yes.

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Because if you tell me when, I'll make it happen.

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I'll sign you up.

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We'll get you going.

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Yeah, you will.

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But yeah, that's what you saw me looking at.

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So yeah.

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How are you doing?

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I'm good.

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See, I thought you were looking at Sparks.

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Oh, well Sparks is here too.

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She was making noise and licking herself.

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And then all of a sudden I started talking and she's like, what's going on?

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Yeah.

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Why is dad talking?

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What's going on?

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Why are you talking like that, dad?

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Yeah.

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And she gets to, babe, she gets to, you have news with her.

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I do.

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She passed her test.

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Yay.

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So she is, yeah, she's about to get rid of her in training patches and just be regular

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service dog patches.

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And then we get to do the graduation, you said, like at the end of the month?

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No.

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Or October?

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No, sometime in, I think they're aiming for sometime in November.

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Oh, okay.

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Is the talk.

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Okay.

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So yeah.

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So that's when the little get recognized and stuff.

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Maybe we can borrow your friend's little diploma hat that his dog had, because that was super

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cute.

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I'm not sure she would go for that though.

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Maybe.

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I don't know.

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And then she's got new jewelry.

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I surprised you with new jewelry for her.

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So she's got a little dog collar.

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Yep.

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Or not collar, dog tag.

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Dog tag that has her name on it.

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And then on the back it says, I'm my person service dog.

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If I go missing, please, you know, basically give me back.

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So yeah.

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Just very sweet.

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Which kind of along those lines, I've seen a couple of people that have stickers on the

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back of their cars.

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And it basically says, a service dog on board.

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Oh.

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Do not separate from handler.

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Wow.

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Oh, I love that.

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Oh, it makes me think of that reel.

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Was it you that sent it or I sent it to you where there was a dog that was chasing an ambulance

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and then they finally figured out that it was the person's dog that was trying to be

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with the owner.

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Gosh, that's so sweet.

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I like that.

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Maybe we need to get one of those for you.

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That would be sweet.

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Oh, it's your, it's your.

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Your person.

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She's not a person, but she's a person.

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And she's her and I are starting to become more.

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We like each other more.

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Yes.

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Where before it seemed like there was a little bit of a competition and I'm like, listen,

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girlfriend, she's understanding her place and that's good.

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She's sweet.

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So we have not been here for two, almost three weeks, three weeks.

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So hi guys.

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Hi.

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So do we want to kind of get a quick update about maybe what's been going on in our lives?

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I think so.

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It's like, I hate to use the excuse of life happened, but you know what?

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Life happened.

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I think, I think, and I don't know if I've said this before, but I think when we say

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this because even in the real, like me and the girls, we have taken a little bit of a

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hiatus and said that, you know, life is happening.

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I think what it does is it gives people permission to reprioritize because this is another thing

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of we don't want to.

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It's not a thing of we're getting lazy.

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It's a thing of when things get a little extra and there's a lot happening, then we give

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you permission to reprioritize.

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And if, if this podcast happens to be the thing that gets to be put on the back burner,

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then that then so be it because our family comes first.

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Our mental health comes first.

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Our, our wellbeing, just baseball.

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We got all of it.

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Just everything's we're kind of in the thick of everything.

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Just celebrated.

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There was a family vacation.

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There was about to be a family funeral.

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School started.

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School started.

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Baseball started again.

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Our beautiful girl turned 20.

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Birthdays, all the things.

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That's where the family vacation came in.

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But yeah, just a lot of, a lot of everything.

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And, and just, and in the process, some physical health, some mental health.

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Just all of it.

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Just all of it.

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And, and it's okay to say, Hey, I'm shooting off a flare or I'm just putting a quick little

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pause right here.

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I even suggested to you, Hey babe, do we just want to take a second?

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And you were like, Nope, because then we'll stop.

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And then we will try to, it'll be hard to get back on the train.

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So we appreciate you guys being patient with us, but yeah, I lost, I lost my stepsister.

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Is that, what is this babe?

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Like when was that?

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Is it a week ago?

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A week ago?

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Yes.

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A week ago.

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Actually, yes.

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A week ago, 12 at 12 something.

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My nephew made the hard decision of basically saying, taking her off life support.

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Let's take her off life support because she would not be able to breathe on her own.

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And that's no way of living.

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And so unfortunately at the age of 59, which is insanely young, you know, my sister now

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gets to walk out of this world and walk right into the arms of Jesus.

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And then we just came across yesterday was our beautiful girl's 20th birthday.

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It's also the anniversary of Papa Charlie's death.

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And that came up on my memories.

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And it was like, just taking that time to just kind of, sometimes you got to give yourself

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space to feel.

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And I would say that you, the kids, friends, really close friends, good friends have been

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giving me a chance to just feel.

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And then you are, today was your first day in your new position as far as a project at

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work.

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And that is now officially has been, it has been, it's not even it is, but it has been

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consuming your brain.

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And so now we get to just stand back and say, okay, father, how would you like to move forward

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on this?

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And so we, we're back.

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So we're here.

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We're here.

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A lot is happening.

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And again, we just, you know, it's okay.

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It's okay to just say, Hey, there's days where you have to trudge through.

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And then there's other days where you have to say, no time out.

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I'm going to take a quick break, but I promise I'll be right back.

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Cause I mean, in a way that's kind of what we were going to talk about today.

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I'm going to, I'm going to throw out the title real quick or at least the working title.

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And then I'm going to kind of explain some more, or at least kind of talk some more.

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But it's like, I keep wanting to call this like the covering.

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It's like, I know that it doesn't really, it does, but it doesn't really encompass what

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we want to talk about.

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But I kind of want to talk about it, you know, because real quick, it's like, you know, us

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being married, you know, we are covering each other, you know, it's, you know, in a way,

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especially as me, as the husband, as the father, as the head of the house, it's that, that

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covering is, you know, mandated by God basically, you know, that's, that's the role that I get

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to step into.

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Those are the duties that I get to assume.

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Um, you know, and, and I, for this thing from, I am not complaining.

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I would not take it back for the world.

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Um, you know, but it's, it's a reality.

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It's something that I get to do.

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And as, as much as I want to excel at everything that I put my hand in my mind to, um, you

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know, I told you just a little while ago, I mean, we went for a walk earlier and I told

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you, it's like, there are days, a lot, a lot of days lately, I feel like I'm just surviving.

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You know, it's like, I'm still doing what I need to do, but barely.

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It's like, you know, it's like, when you go to, you know, get the, the progress report

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for your kids, you know, at school, it's like, you know, meets expectations, you know, it's

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like, I'm meeting expectations, you know, I'm not, I'm not surpassing, but right now

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I am meeting expectations.

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You know, I'm at a three and a five.

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So, um, you know, but it's like, as much as I want to get down on myself for that, it's

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like, I also want to say it's okay, as long as that's not where you're at always.

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Correct.

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Correct.

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You know, if, if, if, if there are moments, if, you know, hopefully they're as short as

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possible, but you know, if there are seasons where so much is going on, that that's where

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you're at, it's like, I think again, it's kind of like you said earlier, it's like people

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need that permission to, it's okay to, you know, I don't want to say it's okay to be

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in survival mode because that's not good, but just like, you know, to be meeting the

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standard.

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You know, it's okay for, you know, if stuff's going on and it's like, I am meeting the standard,

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you know, it's like, I'm a horrible parent.

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My kids didn't get out of the PJs or brush their hair today.

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It's like, you know what?

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That would be our son.

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That would be our son today.

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And it's, it's okay because he didn't have school.

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Correct.

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You know, we didn't really have anywhere we needed to go today.

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You know, I work from home, you being a sub, you didn't have school today, obviously, you

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know, you didn't have any clients to go clean today.

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You know, so it's like, we were home.

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I had a doctor appointment, but that was it.

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You had a doctor appointment, but, but you know, for the most part we are a home.

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Even our daughter got a chance to just, everybody was just home today, which was nice.

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I mean, even me working from home, I was basically in PJs.

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Yes.

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I'm going to have to up my game because they do a lot of video calls in this new position.

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I'm like, oh man, you're going to make me work for this.

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We're going to need to get you, I've already determined this, we're going to need to get

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you just a really nice looking Zippa Pudding.

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Yeah.

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It can't be your little cutoff one.

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It's going to be, we're going to need to get you like a Mr. Rogers kind of Zippa Pudding.

256
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Yeah.

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Like a cardigan or like a, like a quarter zip.

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Don't you have one?

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Don't we have one in the closet somewhere?

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I think I got rid of them.

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Okay.

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Well then we need to get you another one.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Cause a lot of times I don't like quarter zips cause they mess with my beard.

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I will say let's get you just a cardigan that you can just throw it over even if it's just

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a t-shirt and it will literally just dress you up just enough.

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I think that would be nice.

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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We get to go shopping.

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I know where to go.

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Sorry.

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You know, but again, it is, it's, it's so it's, you know, we didn't do anything above

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and beyond, you know, but again, you know, it's kids were fed.

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Yeah.

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We're taken care of those getting paid.

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Yeah.

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We, we worked.

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Yes.

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You know, we, we did what we needed to do today.

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Yeah.

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Rested from the weekend.

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We rested from the weekend.

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We had birthday parties and we had family and we had, we've been busy.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And it's, and it's I, in the words of literally God and in the words of like my sweet brother,

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like it is good to have a day of rest.

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You just, you have to, you just have to take that time to recharge.

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Ours just happens to land on it depending on the week.

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It depends on the day.

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Yeah.

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And I am grateful that today got to be a day just to kind of like laundry and got things

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done and cleaned up from the party and just the stuff.

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But it was, and like you said, and you got to meet your new coworkers and you got to

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meet people and it's, but it's been a very, not even laid back, I think an easy day.

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It's been a very nice day.

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It has been a very nice day.

301
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Yeah.

302
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Yeah.

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And I understand the, sometimes you get stuck in that space.

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There's I would consider some, some places are ruts, ruts or something you have to like,

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you have to be very intentional not to get yourself out of.

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And then I believe that there's other seasons of our lives where we, we have to, it's, it's

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okay for us to kind of take a breath.

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Like when people talk about the race of life, right?

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It's not a sprint, it's a marathon and you have to have a cadence to that at times.

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And sometimes your cadence seems mundane and sometimes it seems like it's just, or it's,

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you know, I feel like I'm trudging literally through mud.

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What do I do?

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I saw a meme and it said, a dear person reading this, if all you did today was wake up and

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breathe, good job.

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You know, because you're taking the time, even if it's just that time to say, okay,

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I'm having to re, I'm going to have to rework some stuff now.

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I'm working with new people or I have a new schedule or maybe my health isn't quite what

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it needs to be.

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I need to start doing some things to help better.

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I need to, you know, and it's like, strategizing, learning how to re strategize certain parts

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of your life.

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And I believe I do babe with everything in me.

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I believe that that's the season that we're in right now.

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It's re strategizing, finding out what that next step is.

325
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And there are some things that are just every day and they're just going to be every day.

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Our beautiful girl, she unfortunately sometimes gets caught up in, you know, the next big

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thing.

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And it's like, sweetheart, it's just that it's the everyday, it's the everyday disciplines.

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It's the everyday getting in your word.

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It's the everyday going outside.

331
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It's the everyday choices.

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It's the everyday choices.

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You know, it's the, you know, it is, it's the, it's the choice to get up in the morning.

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It's the choice to, you know, get dressed, you know, even if, even her who pretty much

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has a uniform, you know, she doesn't get to really pick what she wears for the day.

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Which in my mind, I'm like, thank you Jesus for that.

337
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Right?

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Yes.

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See, she could do it.

340
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Yes.

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Yes, she could.

342
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You know, but, you know, it's, it's the choice to, you know, I'm going to get dressed.

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I'm going to, you know, wash my face, I'm going to do my hair.

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I'm going to, you know, drive safe, I'm going to, you know, the choice to leave on time.

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Yes.

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You know, it's, it's all these little choices.

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And that's, you know, I think that's what it is is a lot of it is, it's the little choices.

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It's the little choices we make.

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even as the covering, to kind of go back to that,

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because part of our conversation earlier was

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with that covering, and it's like,

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as much as my covering goes over our family,

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it almost feels like your covering goes

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almost like under or through our family.

355
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I'd agree with that.

356
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You know, it's like, I know sometimes they talk about how,

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yes, the man is the head of the household,

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but the woman is the thermostat, you know, type thing.

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And it's like, that does, that helps make sense,

360
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because the covering under or through,

361
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it's like, it helps tell the temperature of the family.

362
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It helps tell the mood of the family.

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I mean, so often when something is going on,

364
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you're the one that's like, you know,

365
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hey, I know you didn't catch this,

366
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but here's what's going on right now in the house.

367
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Okay, cool.

368
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And it's not because I don't pay attention,

369
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it's just because I don't pick up on some of those signals,

370
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or I'm not hearing those conversations

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that they'll come to you and have.

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You know, it's like, okay, you know, it's like,

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I'm here to steer the ship, and you're, you know,

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doing the trim or something like that, you know?

375
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And it's, but it's like,

376
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I think it's important to remember in marriage,

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you know, in a marriage, in this relationship,

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that because I'm providing the covering

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that I'm providing, you're able to provide

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what you're providing.

381
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Correct.

382
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You know, it's, you know, because we had a conversation

383
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of, you know, for six, seven years, you were a single mom.

384
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Yeah, yeah.

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And as much as nowadays, I know that you can do things,

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you truly appreciate that you don't have to.

387
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I don't have to, yeah.

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You know, or, you know, or it's like, you know,

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when I went to Puerto Rico for 45 days

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for that deployment, you know, it was like,

391
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even though I wasn't home physically,

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doing and being what I am,

393
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because we had that connection,

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I was still able to spiritually,

395
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and in a way financially also, provide that covering

396
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so that you could continue in who and what you are

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and what you've been designed to be.

398
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Yes.

399
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So all of a sudden, it wasn't like, okay, well,

400
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okay, we're married, married, married for 45 days,

401
00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,440
you're a single mom, and we're married again.

402
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Right, right.

403
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,800
You know, it was just, it was seamless.

404
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,040
Right, because there's, you got that spiritual tie,

405
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is what's going on there, and it was like,

406
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when we were talking about it, because again,

407
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it was something, it was a conversation

408
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that had been brought up, and it was,

409
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the person that we were talking to basically was saying,

410
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you know, like, they're gone all the time,

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so I feel like I could do this by myself.

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And I didn't say this until after we finished talking,

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and I was like, okay, I need to make sure

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that this is a conversation that I continue to have,

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because the revelation came as we are walking,

416
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and I was like, when I was a single mom,

417
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,960
it was hard, right?

418
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It wasn't until I allowed God to become my covering

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in that space that life was fairly good for Gabriel and I,

420
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and I really appreciate that our beautiful girl

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acknowledges that, that she understands,

422
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because she, even again, it's like every birthday

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it seems to bring this up, which is kind of funny to me,

424
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,680
but every birthday she'll say, you know,

425
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I'll always say, Gabriel, like,

426
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you never go without, sweetie, it's constant,

427
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,360
like, you always have, and she says,

428
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I never understood that, Mom,

429
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because I'm decorating the dining room,

430
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,320
getting ready for the family, and Gabriel's talking, right?

431
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And she's like, remember, Mom,

432
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,200
I had all the Justice clothes,

433
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,880
and all my friends wanted to get my clothes

434
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when I started out growing it.

435
00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,060
And she was, how did that even happen,

436
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because you were a single mom, and we were struggling,

437
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but I didn't know we were struggling,

438
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,640
and I said, because I did without,

439
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,040
or I would just go to the thrift store,

440
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,240
and I just had the same clothes forever.

441
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,120
I mean, you know, you've seen my closet,

442
00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,560
I still have some clothes from forever.

443
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,400
Hey, guess how long I've had this?

444
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,000
Yeah, like, this is back in high school,

445
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,360
like, you know, this is crazy.

446
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So, but it's one of those where, you know,

447
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and just understanding that God being the covering there,

448
00:20:38,420 --> 00:20:43,420
the thing that I did want to say was, because this, you know,

449
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when this person said this, I was standing back,

450
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and I was thinking, I believe that the reason why

451
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you feel so confident in this,

452
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because I very much, listen, I very much encourage them,

453
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't go down this road,

454
00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:00,660
okay, don't go, trust me from somebody that is in this space,

455
00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:02,420
don't go down this road.

456
00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:07,840
But it's one of those where I believe

457
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that the reason why people,

458
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:11,980
this is where the enemy comes in,

459
00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:15,580
and he messes with you, because it's like,

460
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so say you have, you know, your spouse is deployed,

461
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or you have a 45 days, your husband is on a completely

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different continent, kind of scenario.

463
00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:30,540
You know, every Tuesday through Friday,

464
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they have to fly out of town for work.

465
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That's it, right?

466
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It's like, how do you respond to these things?

467
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You know, do you all of a sudden live your life

468
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footloose, fancy free?

469
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Why do you feel so confident,

470
00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,060
even if they're separated out from that space?

471
00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:48,100
Well, it's because of the spiritual covenant

472
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:49,700
that you have with this person.

473
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Whenever my first marriage, when I was separated out,

474
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number one, I love this term,

475
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somebody actually brought it up to me,

476
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and said, what God has put together,

477
00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:06,540
let no man separate, right?

478
00:22:06,540 --> 00:22:09,380
And so, when they gave me that scripture,

479
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and they said, with my first marriage,

480
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it was on a God situation, so,

481
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God didn't have to follow through

482
00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,940
with blessing that marriage, because it wasn't.

483
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Because God didn't put it together.

484
00:22:21,340 --> 00:22:22,740
He didn't put it together.

485
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And I was like, dude, like that's,

486
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I would have to agree with that scenario.

487
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Were there good things?

488
00:22:29,540 --> 00:22:32,060
Yes, but were there not?

489
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Yeah, and so, it's like, when I separated myself from the junk,

490
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and from the stuff, from the sickness,

491
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let me say the sickness, okay,

492
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because it was just, it was bad.

493
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So, when I separated myself from the sickness,

494
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even my own sickness that I had got myself into,

495
00:22:54,060 --> 00:22:55,820
when I finally separated myself,

496
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that's when the blessings came.

497
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That's when, God, did he take care of us

498
00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:02,340
during that period of time?

499
00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:05,980
Yeah, but there was a security.

500
00:23:05,980 --> 00:23:10,380
There was a goodness there that lies there.

501
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And so, I would say, if you are somebody that is,

502
00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:19,580
maybe your spouse does have to take off for work.

503
00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:22,380
Maybe they're doing their best,

504
00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:24,740
and they're doing overtime somewhere,

505
00:23:24,740 --> 00:23:26,180
or they're trying to do whatever,

506
00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:28,260
and then all of a sudden, you're just standing back going,

507
00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:29,620
oh, it's just really peaceful.

508
00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:34,380
I can live without this person, those voices of the enemy.

509
00:23:34,380 --> 00:23:36,060
I want you to stop.

510
00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:39,620
I want you to stop, because part of the thing,

511
00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:43,460
unless there is tremendous amount of something, right?

512
00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:47,700
If there's some things that are needing to be fixed,

513
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:50,780
if something is, if you're in a scary situation,

514
00:23:50,780 --> 00:23:52,460
by all means, get out of there.

515
00:23:52,460 --> 00:23:54,620
But that's not what we're talking about.

516
00:23:54,620 --> 00:23:56,540
We're talking about something that, you know,

517
00:23:56,540 --> 00:23:58,820
everybody is fine, everything is good.

518
00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:01,460
You might just be hitting, like what you said, baby.

519
00:24:01,460 --> 00:24:02,780
You might be just hitting a space

520
00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:05,060
where it just might be a little bit mundane.

521
00:24:05,060 --> 00:24:06,660
You might feel like you're just surviving.

522
00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:09,980
Or it just might be extra stressors of life.

523
00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:11,540
It's just extra stressors of life.

524
00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:13,900
Just might be a stressful season.

525
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,300
That's it, that's it.

526
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:17,460
Under, just take a breath.

527
00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:19,460
Like, I think that that's what you and I wanted

528
00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:20,980
to kind of share today.

529
00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:22,860
Like, take a breath.

530
00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:24,620
Take a breath, step back.

531
00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:29,340
Don't be so quick to say the D word.

532
00:24:29,340 --> 00:24:33,140
Don't be so quick to think, ooh, now I'm going to separate.

533
00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:35,700
Or don't be so quick to think that you can do this

534
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:36,620
all on your own.

535
00:24:37,860 --> 00:24:42,860
Because it is, it's, do, you alluded to it, you said it.

536
00:24:43,020 --> 00:24:45,580
Could I do this by myself with the kids, babe?

537
00:24:45,580 --> 00:24:46,540
Yes.

538
00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:47,600
Do I want to?

539
00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:50,100
Hell no.

540
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,220
Like, no, I don't want to, you know?

541
00:24:53,220 --> 00:24:56,620
Even in our hardest and worst days, and we've had them.

542
00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:59,340
And I'm sure that we'll still have some, right?

543
00:24:59,340 --> 00:25:00,820
Because you're stuck.

544
00:25:00,820 --> 00:25:01,660
Because we're in the world.

545
00:25:01,660 --> 00:25:03,820
We're in the world, and you're stuck with me.

546
00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:08,820
And it's one of those where, for better or for worse.

547
00:25:09,220 --> 00:25:12,980
For sickness and in health, richer or for poor,

548
00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:14,780
all of the things, right?

549
00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:16,060
All of the things.

550
00:25:16,060 --> 00:25:18,820
It's like, you're stuck with me.

551
00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:21,500
And we are going to figure this out.

552
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,340
We're going to step back and say, and not,

553
00:25:25,340 --> 00:25:28,820
I think the number one thing is not point fingers

554
00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:31,460
at each other and go, you should be better.

555
00:25:31,460 --> 00:25:33,040
You should know better.

556
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,220
You're the man of the house.

557
00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:35,340
Well, you're a godly man.

558
00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:38,500
You should, shut up.

559
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:39,780
Shut up.

560
00:25:39,780 --> 00:25:42,140
Like, because you deal with stressors

561
00:25:42,140 --> 00:25:43,980
that I do not have to deal with.

562
00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:45,540
That I don't have to deal with.

563
00:25:45,540 --> 00:25:47,980
You take on things that I don't have to.

564
00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:49,540
And vice versa.

565
00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:52,740
There are things that I take on that you don't have to.

566
00:25:52,740 --> 00:25:55,380
So that way you can fixate and focus on the things

567
00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:56,860
that you need to.

568
00:25:56,860 --> 00:25:59,460
Stop playing competition.

569
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:03,100
Stop sitting here trying to say

570
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:04,900
that one is harder than the other,

571
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:06,620
or one is less than the other.

572
00:26:06,620 --> 00:26:09,100
And remember that you're on the same team.

573
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,080
And that, because when you told me today,

574
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,020
as we're going for a walk, like you're like,

575
00:26:14,020 --> 00:26:15,980
babe, I just feel like I'm just, I'm just.

576
00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:16,820
Just surviving.

577
00:26:16,820 --> 00:26:17,640
I'm just surviving.

578
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,580
I'm just doing this.

579
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:20,420
What was it?

580
00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:21,500
First thing that came out of my mouth.

581
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:22,500
What'd I say, babe?

582
00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:25,060
I don't remember.

583
00:26:25,060 --> 00:26:25,900
You don't remember.

584
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:28,300
So that's part of my other problem.

585
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,620
It's okay.

586
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:30,940
It's okay.

587
00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:32,060
I just looked at you and I said,

588
00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:33,460
then what is it that I can do?

589
00:26:33,460 --> 00:26:35,260
What can I do to help?

590
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,100
Yeah.

591
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:37,580
What can I do?

592
00:26:37,580 --> 00:26:39,860
Is there something that I need to be doing?

593
00:26:39,860 --> 00:26:42,660
Do you need me to, because we do constantly.

594
00:26:42,660 --> 00:26:44,060
You're so gracious.

595
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:48,540
I am able to, for the most part, be a stay at home mom.

596
00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:49,380
I really am.

597
00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:50,860
I'm a glorified stay at home mom.

598
00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:53,020
That's what I, I just, and I get to go and play.

599
00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:54,980
You're glorified and you're a stay at home mom.

600
00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:56,460
Oh, baby.

601
00:26:56,460 --> 00:26:57,620
Thanks.

602
00:26:57,620 --> 00:27:00,940
But it's one of those where I've said,

603
00:27:00,940 --> 00:27:02,320
do you need me to do something?

604
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,320
Do I need, our children, one is grown-ish

605
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,700
and the other one is, he's pretty good.

606
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,620
Do you need me to go do work somewhere

607
00:27:13,620 --> 00:27:14,460
for all time?

608
00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:16,500
Do I need to do something that will help?

609
00:27:16,500 --> 00:27:18,420
What can I do to relieve the stress?

610
00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:20,740
Do you need me to go, I don't know.

611
00:27:21,820 --> 00:27:24,180
But these are the conversations that Luke and I have,

612
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:27,180
that you and I have, that I would say that

613
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:30,300
with you and your spouse, you have it.

614
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,920
What is it that they need from you?

615
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,220
Do they need space?

616
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:36,340
Do they need time?

617
00:27:36,340 --> 00:27:40,300
Do they need help, more help?

618
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:44,260
And along with that, it's the loving,

619
00:27:44,260 --> 00:27:47,980
the encouraging, the positive accountability.

620
00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:49,420
Yeah, yeah.

621
00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:53,300
Because this is, because while we shouldn't be,

622
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:54,940
well this is what you should be doing.

623
00:27:54,940 --> 00:27:56,020
Right.

624
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:59,420
But it is, it's the holding each other accountable.

625
00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:04,180
When you were taking the course to get your certification

626
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:06,740
for being a relationship coach, you had X amount of time.

627
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:11,460
It's like, you were pretty much giving me status updates

628
00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:12,420
almost every day.

629
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:14,100
So I didn't have to be like, hey babe,

630
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:16,180
did you work on that chapter today?

631
00:28:17,060 --> 00:28:19,180
So it's like, but you could.

632
00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:22,020
If you hadn't have been already being pro,

633
00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:25,340
if you hadn't already been proactive about it,

634
00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:29,700
that's something that I could do to help you out.

635
00:28:31,780 --> 00:28:33,660
Or like you, every now and then,

636
00:28:33,660 --> 00:28:37,020
hey, have you worked on projects out in the garage yet?

637
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,140
Hey babe, can I buy that tool for you

638
00:28:41,140 --> 00:28:45,260
so that way we can keep moving you forward?

639
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:47,660
And that's what we do.

640
00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:49,140
That's what you do.

641
00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:53,220
It is, it's being a positive.

642
00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:57,100
It's reminding, I think it's also reminding that person

643
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,780
that you are capable.

644
00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:01,820
Because I believe that the noise in our heads

645
00:29:01,820 --> 00:29:04,220
tells us that, well, maybe I'm not doing the right thing.

646
00:29:04,220 --> 00:29:05,700
Maybe I need to just give up.

647
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,260
Maybe I just, maybe I, you know,

648
00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:09,980
and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

649
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:12,500
No, no, no, no, no, you're doing great.

650
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:13,340
You're doing great.

651
00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:16,820
Let's just, let's finish what we've started.

652
00:29:16,820 --> 00:29:19,100
And then, okay, what's the next thing?

653
00:29:20,140 --> 00:29:24,700
And be intentional with time, be intentional with,

654
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:26,860
okay, you seem a little overwhelmed right now,

655
00:29:26,860 --> 00:29:28,580
or you might seem a little stressed.

656
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:31,860
Is there something that I can help you with?

657
00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:34,340
Is there something you can drop off your plate?

658
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:36,460
Is there something that you maybe shouldn't have

659
00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:38,180
picked up in the beginning?

660
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:41,460
Or is this, or is the season gone?

661
00:29:41,460 --> 00:29:44,180
And now it's time to move on to the next chapter.

662
00:29:44,180 --> 00:29:47,500
What is, it could be a number of things

663
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,780
in a different combination of things.

664
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:55,700
But don't be so quick to be so judgmental.

665
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:59,500
Don't be so quick to be so critical of your spouse,

666
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,660
of your loved one, of yourself.

667
00:30:04,460 --> 00:30:07,940
Take the time, because like even at church,

668
00:30:08,740 --> 00:30:10,980
you know, I'm walking through,

669
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:14,700
and I wasn't super, super close with my stepsister.

670
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:19,660
Like four decades with being family is a big deal.

671
00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:21,900
Very big deal, don't get me wrong, guys.

672
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:25,900
She wasn't, you know, it's not like in a constant,

673
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:27,100
do I, did I cry?

674
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:27,940
I did cry.

675
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:29,100
Do I grieve?

676
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,420
I probably will still cry, you know.

677
00:30:31,420 --> 00:30:33,660
But my heart hurts for those that are kind of

678
00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:34,660
left behind, right?

679
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:39,540
And so it's one of those spaces where I,

680
00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:43,180
for the last week I think I've been kind of walking around

681
00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:46,740
very pissed off, and I've acknowledged it.

682
00:30:46,740 --> 00:30:48,460
I've said it, I've acknowledged it.

683
00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:51,860
And to the point where I've had a friend come up to me,

684
00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:54,940
at church just yesterday and say,

685
00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,860
you're not yourself, what's going on?

686
00:30:56,860 --> 00:30:58,060
You doing okay?

687
00:30:58,060 --> 00:30:59,700
And in my mind I'm thinking, I thought,

688
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:01,500
like I thought I was faking it pretty good.

689
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:03,900
And I was like, why am I trying to even fake it?

690
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,620
I shouldn't have to fake it.

691
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:09,660
And so it was beautiful to be able to look at this friend

692
00:31:09,660 --> 00:31:12,820
and say, this is what's going on.

693
00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:14,340
And I'm mad.

694
00:31:14,340 --> 00:31:16,580
I'm mad because the NME has literally snuffed out

695
00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:19,500
two of my family members before they hit 60.

696
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:22,380
This is insane.

697
00:31:23,780 --> 00:31:28,140
And I now wanna punch people and punch,

698
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:30,340
I mean punch the enemy, but just, you know.

699
00:31:31,380 --> 00:31:36,380
But to recognize with your spouse, with your loved one,

700
00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:40,700
recognize maybe even what's going on with them

701
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:43,060
in that space, and then remind them

702
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:45,060
that they don't get to live there.

703
00:31:45,060 --> 00:31:48,260
But give them permission, give them space

704
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:53,260
to grieve, to feel, to even maybe deal with the consequences

705
00:31:55,780 --> 00:31:58,540
of some of their actions, you know, whatever it is.

706
00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:01,900
Allow God to deal with them, right?

707
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:05,180
Because, you know, man, you are a real bonehead right there.

708
00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:06,540
No, you're right.

709
00:32:06,540 --> 00:32:09,940
You know, and okay, well, Father, what do you wanna do?

710
00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:12,500
Because our first instinct is we wanna rescue

711
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,300
and we wanna make sure that they're okay.

712
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:19,260
Or you have the extreme of they wanna set them off in a boat

713
00:32:19,260 --> 00:32:22,140
and shoot a flaming arrow at it.

714
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:23,820
That seems extreme, but you know what I mean?

715
00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:28,820
But it's like, don't be so quick to write each other off.

716
00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:36,620
Know that this comes with seasons of life,

717
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:39,460
know that this comes with marriage.

718
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:44,460
Be slow to speak, quick to listen, you know,

719
00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:48,620
slow to respond, quick to forgive.

720
00:32:48,620 --> 00:32:50,340
Be that person.

721
00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:51,220
Yeah.

722
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:55,820
You said it yesterday, you know, to be somebody

723
00:32:55,820 --> 00:32:58,740
that has only the best thoughts and intentions,

724
00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:01,820
you know, be somebody that, you know, believes the best,

725
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:04,340
trusts the best, hopes the best, you know,

726
00:33:04,340 --> 00:33:06,460
even if it looks really, really bleak,

727
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:09,420
just know that God is very much on the scene,

728
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:11,260
and he's not going to leave your marriage,

729
00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:12,620
he's not gonna leave you.

730
00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:16,100
If you ask him, he'll give you wisdom.

731
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:16,940
Yeah.

732
00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:19,300
And some of that wisdom might be shut up.

733
00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:20,140
Yeah.

734
00:33:20,140 --> 00:33:22,980
You know, some of that wisdom might be just sit with them

735
00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:24,980
and just hold them and cry together,

736
00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:28,660
do whatever you gotta do, but just know that

737
00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:31,580
he's going to be there in the midst of it with you.

738
00:33:31,580 --> 00:33:33,700
That, you know, that even though they're a bonehead,

739
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:35,220
remember the good things they've done.

740
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:36,860
Remember the good things that they've done.

741
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:38,660
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water,

742
00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:41,580
don't do that, don't do, that's not fair.

743
00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:43,020
Don't do that to somebody.

744
00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:43,860
Yeah.

745
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:45,020
Don't do that to them.

746
00:33:45,020 --> 00:33:49,100
It's like I said, you and I are so in the place that

747
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:53,980
unless God, unless the Holy Spirit says, you gotta go,

748
00:33:53,980 --> 00:33:55,300
you don't.

749
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,900
There's, you fight, you stand, you fight,

750
00:33:59,860 --> 00:34:03,220
or you pause and you rest and you say,

751
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:06,660
okay, we're gonna get our bearings,

752
00:34:06,660 --> 00:34:09,380
what is the next step, what do we do now?

753
00:34:09,380 --> 00:34:10,220
Yeah.

754
00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:12,140
And then follow his lead, knowing that

755
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:14,980
he's the only one that knows.

756
00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:15,820
That's true.

757
00:34:15,820 --> 00:34:18,340
So just follow his lead.

758
00:34:18,340 --> 00:34:19,620
Yeah.

759
00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:22,260
And that's all we can do, you know, because again,

760
00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:29,260
as much as we talk about a lot of the roles of a husband

761
00:34:30,020 --> 00:34:32,500
and the roles of a wife and stuff like that,

762
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:36,780
ultimately that is a mirror of the role of God,

763
00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:38,740
the role of Jesus, the role of the church.

764
00:34:38,740 --> 00:34:39,580
Right.

765
00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:42,980
And it's like, so again, it's that,

766
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:45,900
cause I was joking with a friend

767
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:49,620
and he was talking about something about his wife

768
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:51,620
and I was like, yeah, just remember,

769
00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:53,460
Bible says we're supposed to die to our wives,

770
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:54,740
just like Jesus died to the church,

771
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:58,180
he's like four, not two, I'm like still, regardless.

772
00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:02,140
You are right, you're right.

773
00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:03,980
I mean, it's true, it's true.

774
00:35:03,980 --> 00:35:04,820
Yeah.

775
00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:08,140
Yeah, it's laying your life down for the other person.

776
00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:11,420
Yeah, cause I think it is,

777
00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:15,580
there's a lot of people that love to highlight

778
00:35:15,580 --> 00:35:19,020
and focus on the submit.

779
00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:19,860
Yes.

780
00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:23,100
You know, just the way that the church submits to Jesus,

781
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,700
wives should submit to their husbands,

782
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,420
but they always forget the other half of that.

783
00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:30,580
The church submits to Jesus

784
00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:32,500
because of what Jesus did for the church.

785
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,220
That's right, that's right, that's right.

786
00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:39,300
It's easy to follow somebody, follow their lead

787
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:41,980
when you know that this person

788
00:35:41,980 --> 00:35:44,020
is willing to lay their life down for you.

789
00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:44,860
Yeah.

790
00:35:44,860 --> 00:35:47,180
When they have nothing but the best intentions.

791
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:52,100
Or even when, even without going that far.

792
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:53,300
Yeah.

793
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,660
They're willing to walk the same mile you're willing to walk.

794
00:35:55,660 --> 00:35:56,820
That's it, that's it.

795
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,740
And I think that that's what I mean by,

796
00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:03,380
like you, Luke, Alan, Wants,

797
00:36:03,380 --> 00:36:07,060
are willing to lay down your agenda,

798
00:36:07,060 --> 00:36:12,060
your flesh, your agenda, to follow Christ

799
00:36:13,060 --> 00:36:15,380
and to follow what he wants.

800
00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,940
And that is attractive to me.

801
00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:23,180
That is something where I can stand back and say,

802
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:25,620
if you're willing to lay your life down

803
00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:30,620
and bend to whatever it is that God has told you to do,

804
00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:36,660
yeah, babe, yeah, like all day, all day.

805
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:37,820
What do you wanna do?

806
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:39,020
All day, let's go.

807
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:42,700
There's a security in that

808
00:36:43,580 --> 00:36:45,700
because it's the same with me.

809
00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:50,060
It's easy for me to be led and it's easy for me.

810
00:36:50,060 --> 00:36:53,500
It's easy to even hear my opinions,

811
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:56,180
opinions, I'm doing quotations, right?

812
00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:58,500
But it's easy to hear my opinions

813
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:02,100
because you know that I'm also willing to say,

814
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,300
oh, babe, I think this, but you know what?

815
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,740
No, no, I don't have a piece about that.

816
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:10,180
Okay, no, if Holy Spirit says no, then we're not gonna go.

817
00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:14,220
And there's a security there.

818
00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:16,540
You're not dealing with somebody that's insecure.

819
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:18,820
You're not dealing with somebody that's so emotional

820
00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:23,820
that I'm tossed back and forth by every circumstance.

821
00:37:25,260 --> 00:37:30,260
That itself, that itself should be what the picture of,

822
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:33,340
what the bride of Christ looks like,

823
00:37:33,340 --> 00:37:36,940
that we're not wishy washy, that we're not saying,

824
00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,780
oh, things are getting really hard.

825
00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:41,620
Oh, babe, you messed up, so you know what?

826
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:44,140
Peace out, wow, that's not a marriage.

827
00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:46,860
I'll be submitted to Christ

828
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:48,380
as long as he's sending me blessings.

829
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:49,580
You know what I'm saying, ew.

830
00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:54,580
Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew.

831
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,060
And how many marriages are out there like that?

832
00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:03,340
Oh gosh, babe, gross, gross.

833
00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:08,340
Like, you're ready, stop, so stop with the silly talk.

834
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:10,620
I was gonna say, no, it's stupid.

835
00:38:10,620 --> 00:38:13,820
Stop with the stupid talk, stop with the stupid talk.

836
00:38:13,820 --> 00:38:15,220
You're either in or out,

837
00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:17,340
stop doing this wishy washy stuff.

838
00:38:17,340 --> 00:38:19,300
Oh, it's getting hard, I'm so sorry.

839
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:22,700
Guess what, it's going to get hard.

840
00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:25,740
Like, I'm not trying to be crass,

841
00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:28,420
I'm not trying to be, you know what I mean?

842
00:38:28,420 --> 00:38:31,500
But it's the reality, here's the reality.

843
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:33,140
Oh, well, it's just, you know,

844
00:38:33,140 --> 00:38:36,100
well, they hurt my feelings, or well, you know,

845
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,900
they lied to me, or well, they weren't forthcoming,

846
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:42,860
or they just, okay, well, I'm sorry about that.

847
00:38:42,860 --> 00:38:46,500
Fix it, fix it.

848
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:47,700
If it's a habitual thing,

849
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,100
if it's something that's constantly,

850
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:51,460
if there's a dishonesty, or if there's things like that,

851
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:55,460
man, by all means, go to a counselor, hi, I'm available.

852
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:56,620
But you know what I mean, but like,

853
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:59,300
go to a coach, go to a counselor, go to a pastor.

854
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:02,940
That's it, go to somebody that's going to look at you both

855
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:05,180
and say, stop being boneheads.

856
00:39:05,180 --> 00:39:07,780
Somebody that genuinely wants to watch you succeed.

857
00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:08,860
Yes.

858
00:39:08,860 --> 00:39:10,380
And has no skin in the game.

859
00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:12,940
That part, right?

860
00:39:12,940 --> 00:39:14,100
Absolutely.

861
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:19,100
And so it's like, suck it up, buttercup.

862
00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:22,260
You know, I'm not saying be a doormat.

863
00:39:22,260 --> 00:39:25,860
I'm not saying be so domineering.

864
00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:30,660
I'm saying allow your lives to be submitted to each other.

865
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:34,420
Submit yourself to God, submit yourself to each other,

866
00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:36,180
and then watch the enemy start fleeing

867
00:39:36,180 --> 00:39:37,700
out of the situations.

868
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,260
Because at that point, you're standing back and saying,

869
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:45,260
come hell or high water, we're together.

870
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,420
We are a formidable force together.

871
00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:52,220
And one can take, what is it, one can send a thousand

872
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:55,620
to flight, two can send 10,000 to flight, right?

873
00:39:55,620 --> 00:39:59,500
So it's one of those where you and I together,

874
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,380
that's why the enemy wants to divide so much.

875
00:40:01,380 --> 00:40:05,020
Because if he knows that he can divide you, then he wins.

876
00:40:05,020 --> 00:40:06,500
There's no power there.

877
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,620
But when you get a husband and wife that have said,

878
00:40:08,620 --> 00:40:13,620
that say, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.

879
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:15,340
Okay, you're being a bonehead, fix it.

880
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:16,340
What are we doing?

881
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:18,540
What do I need to do to help you?

882
00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:21,060
Or what do I need to do to fix me being a bonehead?

883
00:40:21,060 --> 00:40:22,540
What do we need to, you know?

884
00:40:22,540 --> 00:40:27,180
It's like, take responsibility, own your part,

885
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:30,900
and then love your person from the place of Christ.

886
00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:34,940
Allow yourself to be held accountable.

887
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:36,700
Yes, yes.

888
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:37,820
Yeah.

889
00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:38,660
That part.

890
00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:41,420
I love that.

891
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:42,620
That's good.

892
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:45,060
Do we talk it out?

893
00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:46,220
I think so.

894
00:40:46,220 --> 00:40:47,060
I think we did.

895
00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:48,940
I think we talked it good.

896
00:40:48,940 --> 00:40:50,980
Well, talked it well.

897
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:54,580
All that English training out the window.

898
00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:58,100
It's getting replaced by government

899
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,260
plain language training.

900
00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:00,100
It's fine.

901
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:00,940
Yeah.

902
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:04,420
Well, your wife that constantly says, can you define that?

903
00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:05,260
Yeah.

904
00:41:05,260 --> 00:41:07,500
What did you, just bring it down to fourth grade level,

905
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:08,340
baby.

906
00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:09,180
Yeah.

907
00:41:09,180 --> 00:41:10,300
No.

908
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:11,700
And I'm doing better.

909
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:12,540
You're so much better.

910
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:13,860
I will pat myself on the back.

911
00:41:13,860 --> 00:41:15,300
I feel like I'm doing a lot better

912
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,220
about explaining things to people.

913
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:18,580
I think you're beautiful at it.

914
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:21,820
And not taking the high road

915
00:41:21,820 --> 00:41:23,620
and thinking more of myself.

916
00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:27,740
Listen, side note, back to the family vacation

917
00:41:27,740 --> 00:41:30,140
that we got to go and celebrate all the birthdays

918
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:31,700
and the family.

919
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,340
I remember you walking away from the table

920
00:41:34,340 --> 00:41:35,820
and the people that were at the table

921
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:39,740
looking at me and going, he's really good at explaining things.

922
00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:43,620
And I was, and me jokingly said, you're welcome.

923
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,260
Because 13 years of us,

924
00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:48,860
almost 13 years of being married

925
00:41:48,860 --> 00:41:51,180
and almost 15 years of being together,

926
00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:52,780
I just stand back and I go.

927
00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:53,660
You trained me early.

928
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:56,060
I trained you quickly and very early.

929
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:57,700
I need you to bring that down.

930
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:01,500
Your $5 or $50 word right there,

931
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:03,940
I need you to bring it down to like a buck 25.

932
00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:05,380
You're acting condescending.

933
00:42:05,380 --> 00:42:07,580
You're acting condescending, yes.

934
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:09,380
You're being very haughty right now.

935
00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:11,820
I need you to maybe, but you are.

936
00:42:11,820 --> 00:42:14,780
You're very patient and you're very loving.

937
00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:16,300
You really are.

938
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:19,780
You just want other people to learn and grow

939
00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:22,700
and not be boneheads.

940
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:23,700
And that's beautiful.

941
00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:28,020
And you've gotten better about it.

942
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:31,500
So it's good, it's good.

943
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:32,620
All right, guys.

944
00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:37,220
We hope that you have the absolute most amazing week.

945
00:42:37,220 --> 00:42:41,180
We pray that the Holy Spirit just comes in

946
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:43,500
to every area of your lives

947
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:46,140
and that he just shows you, he guides you,

948
00:42:46,140 --> 00:42:47,540
he gives you wisdom.

949
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:52,540
He reminds you to be slow to speak, quick to listen,

950
00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:56,340
slow to respond and quick to forgive.

951
00:42:56,340 --> 00:42:58,500
That he reminds you that you,

952
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:03,340
you get to take responsibility and you get to play a part

953
00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,740
and that you can either make or break a situation.

954
00:43:05,740 --> 00:43:07,860
And so I'm asking that God just comes.

955
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:10,660
He comes into those spaces with you guys

956
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:12,740
and he just speaks loud and clear

957
00:43:12,740 --> 00:43:14,020
and he opens up the hearts

958
00:43:14,020 --> 00:43:16,020
and then ties them back together again.

959
00:43:16,020 --> 00:43:16,940
Yes.

960
00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:17,760
All right, guys.

961
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,600
Have the best week.

962
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:19,540
Enjoy the journey.

963
00:43:19,540 --> 00:43:20,560
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