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Hello and welcome back to another episode of Upfront and Undivided with Luke and Dean'na.

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Hi.

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See, again, this is why we need video.

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You and your little air drums.

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Because it's true.

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People want to see you dance.

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People want to see you sing.

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People do not want to see.

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They want to see the animated awesomeness that is you.

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Unhinged.

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There's a lot of people that get to see it, but even more people need to see it, want

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to see it.

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See, what's going to happen is I'm going to become so self-conscious.

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Thanks, babe.

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I'll be like...

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I don't think so.

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I'll just sit very, very quietly and be like, what's going on?

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Hi.

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How are we?

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How are we today?

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How's my makeup?

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What's going on?

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I think maybe the first, maybe one, two at the most episodes, and then you're going to

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be like, whatever.

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This is me.

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This is what we do.

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Welcome to me.

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I almost said welcome to in the real, but this is Upfront and Undivided.

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We are Upfront and Undivided.

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But yes, once those cameras get going and people will see us in the real too.

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We might have to figure out an Elvis cam.

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Oh my gosh.

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How cute would that...

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Could we get him a little collar cam?

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Oh my gosh.

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How cute would that be?

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What's up?

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He sees life from our point of view.

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Oh no, you're right.

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You're right.

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You're right.

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Because dogs do what dogs do.

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Yeah, no, never mind.

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It's fine.

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I'm thinking, yeah.

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We don't need to stream that live to the world.

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No.

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It's really bad.

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So if you're joining us now, how are we doing, babe?

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I think we're doing good.

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Yeah.

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How are you?

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Are we doing well?

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I don't feel good, but yeah, it's fine.

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We are here.

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You and the boy have been hit by stuff.

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Some sort of stupid bug, apparently, so when our beautiful girl came down to get her laundry

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started, she just...

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I said, hey babe, I haven't seen you all day.

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How are you?

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Right?

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Because we ran and did some errands even though we needed to, but they were very slow errands

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and there was a lot of trips to the bathroom.

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TMI, but there you go.

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And it's like when we ran the few errands, so we hadn't seen her and she's like, I got

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really lightheaded and I feel really nauseous and I haven't been feeling very good.

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And I was like, excellent.

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All three of us have this thing.

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So that's, yeah, but we're here.

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We're here and it's good.

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And I don't know what else is on my stomach to discharge anyway, so there's that.

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Yeah.

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And here we go.

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And here we go.

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But it's been a good week.

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Has it been a good week?

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Last week was a good week.

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I mean, it's Tuesday.

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It's a Tuesday, but like last week, because we didn't do this last week.

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What did we do last week?

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I think it was just a lot of just...

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Life.

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It's just been a lot of life lately.

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We've been helping friends and trying to help them get settled.

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Yes.

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Just, yeah.

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We do have some friends that have really great, amazing things on the horizon for them.

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And then we're in the process of...

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I've been working on getting a project done for Marsha and then we're going to be recording

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that here soon.

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You guys will actually see our faces, but it will not be on any kind of platform that

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is readily available unless you have a teenage daughter or I guess son too, but mostly a

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teenage daughter that is wanting to stick with the land of purity and even know her

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worth and knows what that means.

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So she asked Heather and I to record some stuff about just that kind of stuff.

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So I've been working on that.

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And then you've been helping me set up Canva so we can start working on our devotional

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and eventually a book.

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And I just literally just read something today and it's from a sweet Mandy Windsor friend

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of ours.

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And she said, I'm just going to put this out here.

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I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you like to read, then you like to write.

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And if you like to write, then there's a book inside of you and there's stuff that needs

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to be.

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And here we go.

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So you guys just keep praying.

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I mean, it's one of those slow and steady wins the race.

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And we know that there's a lot of stuff.

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You're finishing up a project.

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We got some stain and woodworking project.

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So we're working on that.

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You're getting that done.

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And summer is happening.

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And so it's just good.

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I've determined that it's just okay that we don't have to be in a constant state of let's

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go, let's go, let's go, let's go.

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That we don't have to be in that constant state of like, you have to always have something

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going on.

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There is rest is a weapon.

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And that's something that I'm learning.

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That's something that I'm trying to help impart to friends that are going through some stuff

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right now that I've also had to go through.

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And in letting them know that it's rest is a weapon.

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It's rusting in God, rusting in his knowledge, rusting and knowing who he is and also rusting

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your body because rest is healing.

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So it's good.

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Yeah.

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So what are we talking about?

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Cause I don't know.

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Yeah, I know.

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I'm excited.

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I actually told you not to tell me.

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Yeah, you did.

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So this hit me a couple of few weeks ago.

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Oh, cool.

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So it's sitting not like heavy, just marinating, not really marinating, but it's like, it's

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been there.

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So to speak.

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It's like, I've kind of been watching it on the back burner.

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But I want to title it, don't marry potential.

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I think I know we've talked about this before somewhere.

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Little bit.

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But yeah, I don't know where and I don't know how in depth we got into this.

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So I'm excited.

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So what, do you want to tell me what triggered this or was this something that...

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It was just, it was one of those thoughts that just kind of like came in because every

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now and then I just, you know, cause I do, I, that's one of the things that goes through

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my mind of, cause even though I can think about nothing, it's like, there are times

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where it's like, my brain is just racing.

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Like, especially when, you know, wake up in the morning before my alarm and I'm like,

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I want to go back to bed.

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And it's like, we should think about this.

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I'm like, why shut up?

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You know, but it's like, it's the, you know, because it is, I, you know, every now and

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then it's, you know, not that I sit out and try to, it's not like my goal is to think

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of podcast episodes or topics, but it happens.

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Either for us or for the equipped man, it just, it just pops in there.

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And you know, sometimes it gets fleshed out and sometimes it's just like a topic that

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just kind of sits there, like a one word or two word, you know, and it was just, it just,

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it does, it just kind of sits there.

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And sometimes, like I said, sometimes my brain will just go and all of a sudden it's like,

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I feel like I have, I wish I had a recorder in my brain because it's, I don't, it's by

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the time I have, I can write something down.

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It's like, it's already all like 75% of what I wanted to say.

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I'm like, Oh, that was really good.

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And it's like, and it's gone.

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And then some of the things like that we talk about on here, it's like, you know, I'll say

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something.

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You're like, Ooh, that was good.

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Say it again.

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I'm like, what'd I say?

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It released it out there.

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I said it's gone.

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No, that's good.

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My, my, my, my hands did not hold onto it as it left.

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It just kind of, it went.

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I joke that that's the bonus of being honest and having integrity and character because

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you can, you can let it just fly.

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And you know, you, you don't have to be as guarded.

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So to speak.

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Um, you know, yes, you want to try to measure your words and in some sense, you know, and

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in some scenarios and all, you want to think more on what you're going to say.

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But you know, at times when it's like, you know, especially if the Holy Spirit's involved,

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it's like, you know, you just, you just open your mouth and talk and it's, Oh, that was

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cool.

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I love that.

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I love that.

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So that's where, so yeah.

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So this is talking about potential.

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Don't marry potential.

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Um, cause it is, I think we've talked about it before.

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Um, you know, you can sit there and, you know, in the dating world or marriage, you know,

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hopefully it doesn't get to marriage, but you know, dating world and stuff like that.

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It's like, I can see that, you know, I can see the potential in them.

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And so therefore that's what I'm marrying.

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And it's like, you're not marrying potential.

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You're marrying a person.

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Right.

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You know, you're not dating potential.

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You're, you know, I mean, when, when we got together, I mean, technically I had the, I

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still have, um, the potential to be a millionaire.

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Come on, sir.

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I'm not a babe.

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It's happening.

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I'm not.

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I definitely wasn't when we got married.

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No, no.

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I mean, I was, I was a thousandaire.

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Yes.

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I was, I was four figures, babe.

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You were baby.

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And our pastor said, if this is as good as it gets, are you good with that?

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And I said, yes.

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And I don't think it was a thing of settling in my mind because once upon a time I settled,

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hi, hi, hello.

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I have a previous marriage.

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I've had previous relationships.

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It's one of those where it's like you, you settle or you see the potential, right.

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And then you don't see the potential, um, come to fruition.

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And I would like to bring, um, I love that you didn't tell me what this is because I

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would love to bring, um, the, the, uh, train of thought.

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That's a good way.

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So my little train of thought would be if you feel like you are supposed to walk with

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this person.

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Okay.

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So we're going to talk about relationships, but I'm going to say just even friendships,

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okay, some friendships or just whatever.

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So if you feel like you are supposed to walk with somebody, business opportunities, any

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of those things, and you're like, man, like I can see the potential of this person and

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blah, blah, blah.

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And some, I would say there's those times where you have to say, I'm not necessarily

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going to try to cultivate something inside of you.

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I'm not going to sit here and say that I think that this is the way that it needs to go.

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Um, I'm going to say, what is it that I can bring to the table that can help like, um,

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grow or help assist the potential that lives inside of you?

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Because sometimes it's not always a thing of, um, you know, like, like here, I'm going

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to be your support system.

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I'm going to be all the things.

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I think we also have to stand back and say, um, and I, I'm, I know I've said this to

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myself, we've said this to our beautiful girl.

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Um, this may not the potential that the potential of heaven that's inside of you, it may not

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come out and be cultivated in the way that you think it's supposed to come and be cultivated.

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It may not come in the timing.

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It may not come in, um, the, the way like the vehicle or whatever it is that you think

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I, well, this is how I think I see life.

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This is what I see.

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Okay, I see the potential of this woodworking business inside of you.

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Okay, cool.

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So like, we're going to just, you're going to quit your job and we're just going to sell

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it all.

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What are you going to do?

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And the whole time, like Holy Spirit's like, nah, like, nah, like, like, like there's a

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good potential there.

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There's goodness there, but, um, we're going to go a different way.

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We're going to, we're going to, we're going to grow and we're going to, um, finesse and

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we're going to make this better, but it's not in the way that you think.

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And I think too many times when it comes to marrying potential, um, and, and I see it

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time and time again, and it was with you and I too, like, okay, God, I see the potential

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in this person.

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He's an amazing man.

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He's like, babe, you're like wicked smart, right?

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I tell this to people all the time.

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You are my Google.

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Yes.

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I do not need Google.

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Anybody that has played any kind of board game with us understands you are Google.

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And but it's like, what does that look like?

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How, how does the Holy Spirit want to mold that?

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What does he want to create out of this?

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Because even though there might be potential inside of you, he might be going a different

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way.

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Okay.

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That's great, Luke.

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Like you're stupid smart, like, yeah, like off the charts smart.

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You know what?

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I'm going to make you do something that is completely outside of your character and outside

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of your comfort zone.

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Yeah.

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And we're going to build on that.

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Yeah.

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And you yourself would go, Oh, yeah.

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Shoot.

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Okay.

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I don't know what I'm doing.

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And then me who knows the potential inside of you could say, but that's not your gifting.

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That's not who you are.

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While the whole time the Holy Spirit's going, Hey, but I'm asking him to cultivate this

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and to grow this because this, this is what I'm asking.

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I know what he has the capability of.

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I know what and it's like, I keep saying you, but that's, that's kind of where we are in

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our lives.

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It's that space of, we could naturally try to help move even the potential of people

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in our lives and say, Oh man, you're really good at this.

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Our daughter, you're really good at this whole baby thing.

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Yeah.

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But I, I mean, she has said this, but I, but I also like, um, the video part of things

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and I also like social media and I also like, and like all these other giftings.

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I love photography, the baking.

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I love all of this.

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And it's like, okay, why am I putting you in a box then?

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Right.

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Like, okay.

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Then why are you trying to put yourself in a box?

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That's it.

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Yeah.

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And, and it's not just, did it go off on a tangent?

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No, no, no, no.

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It made sense.

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And, and I want to say it's, it's not just, you know, I'm, I'm glad you brought up the

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giftings and the abilities and all that because it's more than, I know I use the example of,

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you know, the potential to be a millionaire, you know, but it is, it's, it's more than

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financial potential because it's, you know, because again, with us, um, being a little

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different than other couples because I was, when we got together, I was a brand new Christian

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and I was growing and learning in that so much.

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And so it was one of those things that, oh my gosh, you know, he has the potential to

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be X level in Christianity.

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Right.

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You know, in his walk with God, you know, he has the ability to, to be, you know, go

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so deep and go so high and all this.

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And it's like, and that's, you know, and again, that's when our care pastor at the time looked

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at, looked at you and said, well, what if he doesn't grow anymore?

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You know, what if, what if where he's at is where he's at?

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Yeah.

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You know, and it's like, is that good enough?

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You know?

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Yeah.

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And so what if, you know, spiritual level work in full time job at McDonald's, it's

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like, you know, that's, that's, that's where you end up.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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And it's like, you cool with that.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Um, you know, I, it's like, I, I, it's, I, I'm not a huge fan that I go keep going back

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to the financial, but it is, I think it's because that's in a way, almost the, the more,

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the easiest example of potential in a way, especially when it comes to like relationships

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and stuff like that, you know?

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Yeah.

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But, but it is, it's, you know, again, like you said, you know, with talent and stuff

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like that, you know, it's, you know, for musicians or, or athletes, it's, you know, you've seen

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it at times where, you know, they get together in like high school or something or early

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on in the, the, the hobby or the, the sport.

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And it's like, well, they have the potential to go really far.

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You know, they could be a superstar.

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And so I'm going to get with them now because that's what I'm banking on.

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And it's like, you can't do that.

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No, no.

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You know, you're going to end up getting burned.

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Right.

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You know, or you're going to hold on for the wrong reasons.

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Right.

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And I mean, I think of like, um, contentment.

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Yeah.

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Like contentment seems to be a big word.

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And I know that that was something that when you and I, at the very beginning, um, you

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know, when somebody says, are you good with this person where they are?

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Yeah.

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And I think, are you content?

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Yeah.

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Are you, are you satisfied?

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Are you satisfied with your care?

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Right.

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So are you, are you, um, is, is this enough for you?

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And I believe when we see the potential of heaven inside of somebody and they're not

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maybe possibly, um, hitting the spaces that we think that they should be hitting, um,

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are we doing them, um, justice or are we doing them a miss service?

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Because it's like, I could sit here and say, babe, like, this is who you are and this is

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amazing and all the things.

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And, and I could see sometimes even when I'm speaking so much goodness over our children,

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or it almost exasperates them because it's like, you're asking more of me than what I

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think I can give you right now.

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And are you, are you content mom and just me being me?

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And it's like, and it's, it's not giving somebody an escape to where they're, they're allowed

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to be, um, we're not saying abusive or ugly or, or whatever.

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But if this person, all they've got to bring to the table is, and I can't even say all

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because that sounds like it's, it's less, but you, one of the reasons why I said it

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was easy for me to say, yeah, when it, when our care pastor asked, you know, if this is

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as far as he goes, are you content with that?

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And I said, yes, because what I saw was somebody that was gentle and kind and loving.

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I saw somebody that was already walking in the fruit of the spirit of God.

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And to me, that is the potential that is, it's not even the potential that, that you,

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you already exceeded a lot of the expectation you already exceeded where a lot of my past

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had already been, you know, I, I, you were selfless, you are somebody and you still are,

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right?

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But that's, I want people to understand the, the picture that was painted in front of me

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when this pastor is asking me.

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So it's like, well, what do you, how, what did that even look like?

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Cause you know, you guys got married with the thought of, okay, yeah, I don't think

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we ever really talked about like a five year plan, even a 10 year plan.

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You know what I mean?

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Like when we got married, it was more of, I really like you.

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I like hanging out with you.

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You make me a better person.

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You make me want to be a better person.

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You're amazing with our daughter.

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I, I, I can see going on amazing, beautiful adventures with you, even if it's in our backyard.

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Um, I, I like doing everyday mundane, simple day to day things with you.

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And I, I think that that, that is what has been really good for us.

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Um, and in all I could hear in my spirit is, um, to some of our listeners, that is, that

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that's what you need to base a lot of your stuff on.

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Like I like you.

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Yeah.

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Like, why do I like you?

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Okay.

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We're talking about marriage, but we're also talking about family.

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We're talking about friends.

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We're talking about, um, children, right?

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Like I told you it was, oh, it was last week when I got a chance to be, spend a day, kind

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of a full day with both of our kids separately.

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And I was like, literally in the car, almost in tears driving with Sebastian, you know,

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like Gabri the day before and just loving, just doing the things, just spending time

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with her laughing, joking, same thing, Sebastian, him just going, you know, cause he just, that

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cute little boy just goes mile a minute.

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He's sitting there, he's watching, he's looking outside the car and he's looking while driving

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and all the things.

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And I'm like tears in my eyes going father, just thank you.

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I genuinely like my kids.

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Like, I love being with them.

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They're, they, they are allowed to be unapologetically them.

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You get to be unapologetically my husband.

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I get to be unapologetically your wife.

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That is, it's like, are the potentials there?

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Are the things there, the goodness there?

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Yes.

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But I think if we don't take the time to enjoy the base camp essentials of who we are, right?

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Just without the fluff, without the, without the six figure income, without the, you know,

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without the books, without the talking, without the hair, without the makeup, with all this,

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you know what I mean?

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If we can't take the time to just sit and just enjoy that space with each other, I think

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the potential doesn't matter.

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Yeah.

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And then kind of along those lines, I mean, not kind of, but along those lines, something

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I did write down with this was yes, you don't want to, yes, it's, you know, it's, it's good

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to recognize potential.

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I mean, we all have potential.

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We all have, you know, we all have potential for, for greatness.

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We all have, you know, the full potential of heaven inside all of us.

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You know, so it's, it's good to see that.

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And it's okay to recognize and encourage that, but you don't want to bank your entire relationship

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or base your entire relationship on that, on what could be.

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Yeah.

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Because again, it's one of those things that, you know, when you're 20, it could look like

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your life is going in one direction.

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And by the time you're 25, 30, it could be going in a completely different direction.

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So you know, it's, it's one of those things that's, that is, that is something I wanted

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to say is, you know, that feel free to encourage that, you know, because again, we should be

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encouraging our spouses.

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We should be encouraging our children, our friends, you know, our coworkers, you know,

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all of it.

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Yeah.

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But don't, I mean, again, it's, it's kind of like we were talking, you know, don't put

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them in a box.

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Right.

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And it's because if you put, if you're, if you're banking so hard on that potential,

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yeah, that's, that's what you're doing.

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You're pigeonholing them and you're almost setting up, you know, kind of what we've talked

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about also, you're setting up those false expectations or those on unspoken, unrealized

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expectations of, well, you should be this.

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No, no, don't do that.

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Right.

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Right.

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Because we do that to ourselves.

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Yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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So, Sunday after church on the prayer floor, talking to some friends and just loving on

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them.

490
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,960
And one of them says, I said, I didn't come up, I didn't come to have you pray for me.

491
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,680
I just wanted to come and give you a hug.

492
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040
And she says, good, then you pray for me.

493
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:20,640
And the only thing that came out of my mouth was you need to stop putting God on a timeline.

494
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,640
Yeah.

495
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,800
You, you need to stop being, you need to stop putting him on a timeline and know that he

496
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,280
is going to do what he's going to do when he's doing it.

497
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,120
And you need to stop putting yourself on a timeline thinking that you have missed it.

498
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,120
Yeah.

499
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:40,880
And it was like, and it wasn't just for her, but it was also for the young lady that was

500
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,400
just right next to her.

501
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,800
And it was like, and there was a whole lot more stuff that was said too, but, and I won't

502
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,000
go into that, but it just, that, that hit me hard because I think I needed to hear that

503
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000
too.

504
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Like, why are you?

505
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,040
Are, are there good things to have like, you know, Hey, we have a time limit.

506
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,560
We've got, we're going to put ourselves in, in this space, right?

507
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,720
Like we're working on a project.

508
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,440
We want it to be done within X, Y, Z. Okay.

509
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,440
That's good.

510
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,440
So that gives us a base.

511
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,360
And so that way we're not just lingering and just whatever.

512
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:15,560
But when it comes to developing your character, when it comes to walking in integrity, when

513
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:22,280
it comes to learning how to discipline and walk in the fruits of the spirit and learning

514
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,840
who you are and whose you are, that is a lifelong journey.

515
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,800
And some days we're really going to be good at it.

516
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,600
And some days we're going to fall flat on our face and go, am I even saved?

517
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,880
Do I even know God?

518
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,000
I don't even think I like people today.

519
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:46,920
And it's like, I think we as the people of God specifically need to stand back and say,

520
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,080
all right, father, is this something you want to put a time limit on?

521
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Or is this something that you're just developing inside of me so that way, because it's going

522
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,760
to be for the next leg of the journey?

523
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:04,440
Or is this something that I'm needing to develop inside of me because eventually somebody else

524
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,680
is going to need what it is that I've got.

525
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:08,680
Right.

526
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:14,760
And I think what that does is number one, I believe he'll tell you.

527
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,960
I believe he'll tell you.

528
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:22,120
Because again, you and I have said for over a year now, I'm looking at God go and tell

529
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,120
me the hard.

530
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:27,680
I want to learn how to hear you in the hard.

531
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,360
And sometimes the hard is you got to step up your game, girlfriend.

532
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:35,360
Hey, you know what?

533
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:36,360
That was not kind.

534
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:37,360
Yeah.

535
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:38,360
Or whatever.

536
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,600
Or hey, I need you to start working out and stuff like that because your body is not in

537
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,240
the shape that I need you to be in to do what needs to be done.

538
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,240
You know what I mean?

539
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,240
And it's like, there's going to be times where we know that I need to do something better.

540
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,200
I need to do something more.

541
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:03,360
But I think we need to stop putting ourselves, putting God in such a timeframe, even with

542
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:08,800
the potential that lives inside of the person in front of us.

543
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560
You are like, I'd like to do this and I'd like to do this.

544
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,240
And I'm applying here and I'm applying here and I'm doing this and I don't know what's

545
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,280
going on.

546
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,320
And I'm looking at you going, it's not because you don't lack anything.

547
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,040
It's because this may not be the direction God's got for you.

548
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,760
And so when you have somebody that comes alongside you that even speaks that kind of truth into

549
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,080
you and says, or maybe it's just not your time.

550
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:39,880
Why are we trying to force a hand of God on something where he might have something completely

551
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,720
different or this may not be what he wants to do at all.

552
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:56,040
And it's like, so be present in those moments and be present in what God's doing today.

553
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,560
And then eventually I believe the potential will start flourishing and start growing in

554
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,640
a way, in a place that you didn't even think existed.

555
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:13,680
And I think a good illustration that I've seen as far as potential and especially the

556
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:22,240
fact that only God really knows our true potential and where we're going to end up in all of

557
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,240
this.

558
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,240
But I think that the coolest thing I heard and the greatest illustration of this that

559
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,960
I've heard is anyone can count the seeds in an apple.

560
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,840
Only God can count the apples in the seed.

561
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,840
And so it is.

562
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:50,560
It's that you cut in and it's like, okay, there's like five or six seeds in an apple.

563
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,080
You and I, we eat enough apples.

564
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,080
We've counted, we've seen it.

565
00:29:55,080 --> 00:30:00,120
But again, we should be growing apples in somewhere.

566
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,120
But it is.

567
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:09,760
And how many, one seed can turn into a tree that can produce thousands upon thousands

568
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:16,720
of apples, if not millions, depending on how long and how fruitful the tree is.

569
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,720
Right.

570
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Now I want to do research.

571
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,800
So it is.

572
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:34,880
And in a way that's kind of, it's like as I say it, that is, not only is it a really

573
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:43,880
great illustration of only God knows our true potential and we as humans cannot really get

574
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,920
a full measure and full idea of what potential is.

575
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:55,840
But when that tree is growing, when that seed is planting, that is when we can sit and we

576
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:02,200
can encourage, we can water, we can take care of, we can make sure that the right environment

577
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,360
for growth is there.

578
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,720
So it's like we can encourage it, but only God truly knows it's full realization.

579
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,720
That's it.

580
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,080
That's it.

581
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,080
I love that.

582
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,080
Yeah.

583
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,660
I love that.

584
00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:26,480
So I think a lot of it right now is just teaching people, teaching ourselves, teaching ourselves

585
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:33,680
how to be content in the waiting and then asking him how to cultivate the potential

586
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,560
of heaven that resides inside of ourselves and then resides inside of the people around

587
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,560
us.

588
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,360
The ones that he's entrusted us with, right?

589
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:52,440
To be very careful with our words, to be very intentional of how we speak of when we have

590
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,560
a word of encouragement or maybe some knowledge or something, some wisdom to bring to the

591
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:08,080
table that we're being people that uplift and help, like you said, water those things

592
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,480
in a way to where it's not heavy.

593
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:20,480
It's not something that is unattainable, but it's something that you can look at somebody

594
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:28,560
and say, you're more amazing than what you even have an idea of.

595
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,800
And then when they look at you like, well, what do you see?

596
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,560
I see the goodness of God and I know that he's going to complete what he started inside

597
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,480
of you and whatever that is, it's going to be good.

598
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,320
And so I would say as far as like, I understand don't marry potential.

599
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Absolutely not.

600
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:58,040
But not but, but also when you do get married, when you do have the children, when you do

601
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,840
have the friends, when you do have the people surrounding you that you know that God has

602
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:11,600
placed inside of your life for whatever season, for whatever reason, then I would say be very

603
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,480
intentional.

604
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,600
Ask the Holy Spirit to show you, right?

605
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:23,000
To show you so that way when you're looking at your loved one and they're saying, I feel

606
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,280
like I just need to scrap everything and I don't want to do anything else and I'm just

607
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:36,160
going to take my little paper in color that we can stand back and say, no, but I do think

608
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240
you need to be at the foot, the feet of Jesus right now.

609
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,760
I do think that you need to go sit in the presence of your father and have him talk

610
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,440
to you and ask him, where should I be putting my efforts right now?

611
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Where, what, what potential is inside of my spouse, inside of my children that I could

612
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,200
be encouraging?

613
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,360
What is it that I can be helping them obtain?

614
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,120
And nine out of 10 times, the thing that I always hear, especially with you and especially

615
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:13,100
with our children is you encourage them in the goodness of who God is and everything

616
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,240
else will start falling itself into place.

617
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:21,640
You remind them who they are and I will do the rest.

618
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,240
You know, it's, it's, it seems so trivial.

619
00:34:25,240 --> 00:34:27,880
It seems so easy, but what is it?

620
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:34,400
The, they say that talent can only take you so far, but ultimately it's your character

621
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,080
and the integrity of who you are is what's going to keep you.

622
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:44,680
And so if you feel like even the potential inside of yourself right now is a little weighing

623
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,440
that you're not quite where, where am I?

624
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,240
What am I supposed to be doing?

625
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:53,440
Maybe asking him if he's taking you through bootcamp, asking him what, what could I be

626
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,960
polishing just as a good human being?

627
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Because no matter what you do, it's not going to succeed to the fullest if you don't be

628
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,840
who it is he's created you to be.

629
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,840
Yeah.

630
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,840
I like that.

631
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,840
That's good.

632
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,560
Do you want to add anything else?

633
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,600
I think we hit it.

634
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600
I think so.

635
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,600
Yeah.

636
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,600
I think so.

637
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:25,240
I'm going to go walk on a treadmill now and try to feel better.

638
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:35,240
So y'all encourage us in our potential, can you?

639
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,560
Cause I am floundering right now.

640
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,880
I'm trying to figure out what we need to be doing the next step, but we know that it's

641
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,880
good.

642
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,880
Yeah.

643
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,880
We know that it's good guys.

644
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,880
We know that it's good.

645
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Know that whatever it is that's in front of you and I'm speaking to myself right now,

646
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,360
whatever it is that you see that's in front of you that looks like it's bigger than you

647
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,600
are, remember that greater is he that's in you than the thing that's trying to overtake

648
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:02,880
you and that God wouldn't ask you to do something if he wasn't going to help you and help make

649
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,360
a way for you.

650
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:05,360
Yeah.

651
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,360
So again, I'm speaking to myself right now.

652
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,360
It's going to be good.

653
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,680
All right guys, have the best week.

654
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:31,560
Enjoy the journey.

