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This episode is all about cyclical nature, menstrual

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cycle and circadian rhythms. In this episode,

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I speak to Iris Josephina, one of the leading

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experts in holistic hormone health and integrated

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cyclical living. Her teachings have supported

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thousands of women in reclaiming their body literacy

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and working with their cycle so that they can

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truly thrive in life. Because our cycles are

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not just inconvenience, they really are a map

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and a guide for us to truly unlock our fullest

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potential, our well -being, our vitality and

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our success. So in this episode, we will cover

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the phases of menstrual cycle and what your body

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truly needs in each phase. You'll learn how to

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align your work relationships and self -care

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with hormonal shifts. You'll learn the top biohacks

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that every woman needs to know. And you'll understand

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why cyclical living is the key to sustainable

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health, energy, and feminine power. You are listening

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to the Feminine Power Podcast, your portal into

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embodiment, feminine awakening, and the true

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power of your life force, sexual energy. I'm

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your host Mariya Grinina, founder of Feel, a global

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platform for feminine embodiment and a coach

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for women ready to live with magnetism, love

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and full aliveness. If you're ready to rise,

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you're in the right place. Follow the show and

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let's begin. I kind of like organically segued

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my way into this work, like my... My academic

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background is in cultural and medical anthropology,

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so I've always been very interested in how people

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across cultures approach their body, approach

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health, approach healing, approach pathology,

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and everything that can happen within a body.

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And so during my final research, I was in the

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south of India researching pregnancy experiences

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among the women there and how they perceive their

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pregnant bodies and the whole process of healing

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after birth and the experience of being pregnant

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and the experience of birthing. And so my entrance

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into this work was actually through the like

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phase of the cyclical continuum that is pregnancy,

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birth and postpartum. And after I got back from

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this field work as an anthropologist, I decided

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to become a doula. My wish would become a midwife,

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but I was already studying for five years and

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I was like, oh, am I going to like study another

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like academic study in midwifery or clinical

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study or am I just going to study to become a

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doula so I can be present in this very special

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part of our cyclical continuum and be like a

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witness of this whole process and supporting

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people. And as I set up my business as a doula,

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which I was doing part time, I was seeing clients

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and I noticed that after a while and after seeing

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more clients, the main chunk of my work was actually

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not like helping people prepare for their birth

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and their postpartum, but it was actually explaining

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basic biology. And what had happened during conception,

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what happens during pregnancy, what happens physiologically

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during each phase of the pregnancy and each trimester,

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what happens during the postpartum period and

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what can happen physiologically and what experiences

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come with that on a very physical, mental, emotional

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level. And I was like, hold on a minute. how

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is it possible that all these highly educated

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people that I'm working with, because I lived

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in a city, I had like highly educated people

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with PhDs, high quality careers, and yet the

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simplicity of biology was missing from their

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lives, which then also led them to experience

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things in their bodies that were very normal

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like shifts in cervical mucus or shifts in temperature

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or shifts in mood that they perceived as something

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is wrong with me or this is not normal while

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all of the things that most of them experienced

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were actually very physiologically anatomically

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normal. And this had me think like, wow, so many

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people during their pregnancies are having all

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these insecurities and all these alarm bells

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going off that are completely preventable and

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unnecessary. And I feel that what adds to the

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stress of being pregnant is having to educate

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yourself while you're pregnant and meeting yourself

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on all these levels. Because pregnancy is a portal,

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it opens up like so many different layers of

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what is physiologically possible, how you see

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yourself as a person, your whole identity shifts.

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And I feel all of this is way harder when you

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haven't met your cyclical self before falling

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pregnant. A lot of women and people who are pregnant

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need to do this work of homecoming to their cyclical

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self during pregnancy. because the shifts and

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changes of pregnancy really bring you to your

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body and to your physical embodiment of what

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it means to be cyclical. And I was really called

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to move the focus of my work to before pregnancy

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so that I could help people really land in their

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bodies and land in the education and understanding

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of their bodies and their body sovereignty, their

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body literacy before falling pregnant so that

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the process of pregnancy could really focus on

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the pregnancy and not on all the other stuff

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that you can actually already do before you get

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pregnant. So it was like an organic shift. I

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really loved being present at births and witnessing

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people in that whole process. It's an absolute

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honor that I got to do that. But I really feel

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my place now with my work is really before that,

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regardless of whether people want to have children

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or not. But the process of physically, emotionally,

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spiritually, psychologically, mentally coming

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home to this cyclical body and all of the phases

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it can move through, because I feel when we do

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that, it's easier. and it makes more sense to

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shift to other parts of our womb continuum, whether

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it is conception, pregnancy, postpartum, and

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then later on perimenopause and menopause. So

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it was organically the way that my work unfolded,

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but I feel that this is really my place and it's

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like a place of the womb continuum that really

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inspires me and it's really powerful to see people

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come home to their bodies in their own unique

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way through my guidance like of course I give

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guidance but every person has their own experience

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of their cycle and there is like gradations that

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are different and expressions that are different

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and it's just a very big honor for me to be able

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to witness people in that journey and play a

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role as a guide to help people experience this

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sense of like sovereignty and agency over their

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bodies. Yeah. So really, I would love on this

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podcast today to show how beautiful and amazing

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it is to care for yourself, even if you don't

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have a problem now. You don't have to have a

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problem to care for yourself. And if you already

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have something that bothers you, there is a way

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of healing that holistically. and in a caring

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and beautiful way. So I would love to ask you,

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what cycle is actually about? What is it about?

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Why do we need to care for it? Wow, that's a

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huge question. I first want to affirm what you

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just said and that there is like this whole cultural

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narrative that focuses on, okay, we only need

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to act when something is wrong. I think this

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really also has to do with, and this is a bit

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of like backtracking, but it'll make sense when

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we move forward. I think this also has a lot

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to do with actually the industrial revolution

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where the attention was taken away from community

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and community care and caring for one another.

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and really making a person's life about being

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in service of other people, most importantly

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an employer, to then make us believe that being

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in service of society in the form of working

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for an employer is the best way that you can

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do that. And I feel that this movement in time,

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especially in Western society, has pulled us

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away from community care. Community care is also

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really about reminding each other that we can

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care for ourselves, but also checking each other

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how we're doing. And I feel that this is, you

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know, with the coming of the Industrial Revolution

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and the vast movement towards individualism has

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really harmed also the way that we take care

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of our bodies because this productivity mindset

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and being in service of something greater outside

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of ourselves in the way of productivity and performance

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really pulls you away from your body because

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something else outside of yourself is always

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more important than what's going on inside of

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you and that can be how you feel, how your body

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physically responds. We are very much taught

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to override that for the sake of Being in service

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like this whole glorification of being busy and

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working hard has completely gone like Overboard

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like it's it's gone. It's become so intense that

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the balance has been lost and I feel this ties

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into One of the reasons why so many people have

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problems Because when something outside of you

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is always more important than you checking in

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with yourself in your boundaries Your boundary

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is going to keep crossing keep being crossed

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by you because you're unaware of where the boundary

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is. And we have been trained, let's call it trained

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by society, specifically Western society, to

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always keep going. And this makes that, you know,

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in all the layers that we have in the body, especially

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from a nervous system perspective, we are always

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in the forward movement, but we forget like the

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movement that comes back to us and the reflect.

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movement. So I feel this really ties into why

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so many people have problems. That's one part

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of it. And then, you know, having a cycle ties

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into being part of something bigger. So I see

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the menstrual cycle really as the body's report

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card. but it's also our blueprint so our infradian

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rhythm is very tightly connected to the circadian

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rhythm going on outside of us and then we also

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have our internal circadian rhythm so we have

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hormones that run on a 24 -hour clock but we

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also have hormones that run on like an average

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29 -day clock and these are very very much on

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a tight rhythm. Western society in a way that

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we have organized time is not in alignment with

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both the circadian rhythm and our infradian rhythm.

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Continuously override both of these rhythms by

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various things that we do like on the daily,

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like being in front of a screen for too long,

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not seeing enough daylight, eating at weird times

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or doing something else while you're eating like

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watching TV or something else. So we have created

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this lifestyle, if you will, that is almost like

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a biological mismatch with how our body is supposed

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to be dealt with and supported. And I feel that

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this mismatch where we with our human brains

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have created this lifestyle where we think that

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we can control nature or overrule nature or be

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better than nature is actually enormously backfiring

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and it's showing up in signals and symptoms of

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our body. That's the way I look at it and I feel

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that when we become aware of that, awareness

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is the most important thing, then we can move

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towards like a framework that honors both this

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circadian rhythm, this day -night rhythm that

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we are in as animals, we are animals, and this

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emphradian rhythm that moves through our body

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in the form of a menstrual cycle. And I feel

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we need to become aware of this mismatch and

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see how we can return to our physiologic blueprint

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that is meant to thrive with having this emphradian

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rhythm and the circadian rhythm in check. And

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I also personally think that we should step away

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from our idea that the way that we organize society

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and the way that we organize time is really the

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best way for us to thrive. Yeah. Well, I agree

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with that for sure. Clearly it doesn't work,

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right? So you say there is no reason to dispute

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that. Clearly we're not becoming healthier by

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living in this fake way. Instead of looking at

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the sun and the light and then the moon and aligning

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what we need to do with nature, we are aligning

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ourselves with rules that we ourselves created,

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which doesn't really make sense. And I love how

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you describe the... cycle and circadian rhythm

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and different rhythms that we follow that actually

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make us more natural and natural means healthy.

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Very often we are created as healthy beings and

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then we meet the world in a way that doesn't

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make us healthy anymore. Let's actually describe

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a healthy circadian rhythm, align ourselves with

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that and then with a cycle. I'd love to hear

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how you describe that. So what I would love for

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people to understand is that everything in our

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bodies is timed. So our melatonin runs on a 24

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-hour clock, our cortisol runs on a 24 -hour

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clock, our estrogen, LH, FSH, progesterone, they

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all run on their own unique clocks. So what is

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natural for me is that we start to understand

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how do these clocks work? And I think the most

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important thing that we need to remember is that

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we are animals and animals respond to light and

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our cells respond to light. And I feel that this

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is the biggest missing link in the whole hormone

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health space that not many people are talking

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about. Like everyone is about how to fix your

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hormones. Like here, pop this supplement and

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do this and do that. But what we are forgetting

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is that our body runs on specific timelines.

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And I feel that when we start to understand these

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timelines of our body, we can actually support

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it better. And the way in which I see health

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thrive in our body is when we start to do things

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on the clocks that already exist. Not the clocks

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that we created, but the clocks that already

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exist. For example, When the light comes in the

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morning, it's very important that we turn ourselves

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to that light to let the retina of our eyes know,

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hey, it's day again, and you can start producing

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all the hormones we need for the day. So our

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glucose and our insulin drop at the beginning

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of the day, cortisol rises, which is very much

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needed to get the body started for the day. Now,

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how many people do not look outside or go outside

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first thing in the morning? They just ramp up

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their inside light, which is often LED, which

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is not good for all of your cells and the energy

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centers in your cells. What we need is light

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in the morning. We need light to communicate

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to the retina of our eyes that it's okay to start

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the day again so that all of the processes that

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are needed, so cortisol goes up, glucose and

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insulin goes down, your body gets hungry, it

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lets you know it needs fuel, you need to start

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preparing the first meal of the day. and then

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these clocks get started when we are supported

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by light and fuel. And then throughout the day

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there are certain times that our body requests

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fuel like food. For most people that is two to

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three meals per day. The two most important meals

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are your breakfast which has to be eaten about

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one hour within one hour after waking, after

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this cortisol awakening response, then we have

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lunch and then we have a small dinner. And the

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way that nature has set it up is that we need

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the most fuel at the beginning of the day to

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get through the most part of the day and that

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we don't need so much fuel at the end of the

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day. And this also brings me into like this whole

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idea that people are like into fasting and all

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of those things. I really like to look at the

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field of chrono nutrition, which means how do

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we time our meals for optimal thriving in the

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body and science shows that the morning meal

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and the lunch meal are the most important ones

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to get us through the day and we finish the day

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with a smaller meal so that we can peacefully

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go into the night and have the body go into regeneration

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and we create the most nourishing field for our

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body to produce melatonin to have a good night's

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sleep. So how I look at it is that nature has

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provided us with this beautiful internal clock

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system and it's up to us to just attune to it.

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So when you wake up, when you see the light,

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when you plan your meals and when you go to bed

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and ideally we don't eat before the sun or after

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the sun has set at night before that. So the

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way I'd like to look at it is that we just have

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to simplify it by looking around us to see what

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is the natural clock that you know governs all

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our body's processes and the clock is literally

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light and dark. It's as simple as that and then

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we eat when it's light and we don't eat when

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it's dark. Yeah, I'm noticing a lot of menstrual

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health specialists, menstrual health coaches

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and women -centered health and nutrition specialists

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do share that for women specifically it is quite

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important to eat in the morning because of course

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it's all right and how toxic this whole idea

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of intermittent fasting specifically for women

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could you speak to that a little because I do

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not find enough information on that and enough

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clarity because you know one person says you

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have to not in the morning and then the other

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person says you have to eat in the morning and

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then what do I need to do? I don't understand.

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So from a female physiologic perspective what

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happens in the morning, I just mentioned it,

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our cortisol goes up and our insulin and glucose

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go down. They are at the lowest in the morning.

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We don't want our insulin and our glucose to

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be at a very low stage and cortisol to be revved

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up higher. So for that to be prevented and for

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both of these to stay within a natural normal

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curve, we can dampen that by fueling specifically

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with protein. Now, how our body deals with cortisol

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and insulin, they are at the top of the hormone

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hierarchy. So our body will always prioritize

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these hormones over our reproductive hormones.

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So cortisol and insulin are really about survival

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and delivering energy in the body and preventing

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threats, really. That's what cortisol is good

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for. don't listen to these natural clocks and

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these natural signals of the body and make these

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curves like go very far out of each other so

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cortisol revs up even more more more and insulin

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dips really deeply this can create an internal

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stress response that is completely like preventable

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and I feel that you know western society already

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revs us up so much and fasting for the female

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body specifically waiting to eat that's how people

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perceive fasting it's not how i perceive it at

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all fasting has a purpose so we fast to give

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the body a break from intense like proteases

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but we have an internal design for that like

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when you do a 12 hour fast overnight this is

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amazing for the body And this is natural because

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at night the body doesn't need fuel. The body

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is here to regenerate. Now, if you're going to

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not eat and prevent your body from taking in

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fuel while you have a lot of energy output for

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your work, for sports, for caring for your children,

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you're going to create a biological mismatch

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with how your body is meant to function because

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then you're undernourishing while your energy

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output keeps going and that's not a smart thing

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to do especially not with a female body because

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our sex hormones also impact how our cortisol

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and our insulin respond. So in the beginning

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of our menstrual cycle specifically in our follicular

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phase all the way up to ovulation we are a little

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bit more resilient and we are more insulin sensitive

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and fasting could be a little bit easier then

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whereas in your luteal phase we naturally become

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more insulin resistant which means that the body

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is not as responsive to glucose and glucose distribution

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as we want it to be. So in this phase it can

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actually be very dangerous to fast because you

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throw off your rhythm even more. So the moment

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in which I recommend fasting for people which

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technically is time -based eating and allowing

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periods of not eating in your day is the night.

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Because then you have the lowest energy output

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and the lowest risk of creating damage. So the

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way in which I recommend it like people can definitely

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do a 12 hour fast. So let's say you stop eating

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after 6 or 7 p .m. at night and then your next

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meal is between 7 and 8 or 6 and 8 the next day.

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That's a great fasting period and it is in alignment

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with your circadian biology and you don't harm

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your sex hormones with it. It is harmful when

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you are pushing your energy output like hard

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by just living and doing your day and being on

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the run and then undernourishing because your

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body needs energy and a lot of people especially

00:24:16.789 --> 00:24:19.990
females are already under eating. A lot of people

00:24:19.990 --> 00:24:22.609
don't eat enough protein, they don't eat enough

00:24:22.609 --> 00:24:26.529
fat and what you then create is actually a malnourishment.

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and an undernourishment while your energy input

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is not matching your energy output. And this

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is what we want to prevent. This is how a lot

00:24:36.990 --> 00:24:40.089
of problems get started. And I would say if you're

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into fasting, if you really like the idea of

00:24:43.710 --> 00:24:46.869
giving your body like a break, the best way to

00:24:46.869 --> 00:24:49.990
do that is to do it in alignment with your physiology,

00:24:50.170 --> 00:24:53.140
with your circadian biology. and in alignment

00:24:53.140 --> 00:24:56.200
with these circadian hormones, namely cortisol

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and insulin. Because you have a new chance with

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these hormones every single day to support them

00:25:03.220 --> 00:25:07.299
or to harm them. And I more like lean into like

00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:10.339
how can we support them rather than rev them

00:25:10.339 --> 00:25:14.859
up. Because living in a Western society has already.

00:25:15.079 --> 00:25:18.140
you know negative effects on how our bodies respond

00:25:18.140 --> 00:25:22.140
like we take on so much there is so much like

00:25:22.140 --> 00:25:24.779
stressors in our day like being in traffic is

00:25:24.779 --> 00:25:27.480
like a massive stressor and people don't realize

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that just you know running to the train getting

00:25:30.700 --> 00:25:33.859
your bus like all these things are stressful

00:25:33.859 --> 00:25:36.299
for the body they're like minor stress events

00:25:36.299 --> 00:25:39.279
that happen throughout the day which are the

00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.160
amount of stress events in our day is significantly

00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:46.119
higher than our ancestors, or even our grandparents.

00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:49.279
Like if I think about my own grandparents and

00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.660
the stressors that they had, they were very minimal.

00:25:54.180 --> 00:25:57.019
Like I deal, two generations later, deal with

00:25:57.019 --> 00:26:00.140
so much more stress on the daily that they cannot

00:26:00.140 --> 00:26:06.000
even like perceive or come up with. And when

00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.759
I say, you know, when I shared, they pass now,

00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.839
but when I shared like with the stressors, they

00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:15.559
were just looking at me like, what? It's just

00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:20.640
inconceivable to them. So I think we need to

00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:24.240
be aware of that. And if you want to fast, do

00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.940
it in alignment with your physiology and your

00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:30.740
circadian biology. And most of the times, unless

00:26:30.740 --> 00:26:33.640
you're severely undernourished or you have a

00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.160
severe issue of insulin resistance or leptin

00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.259
resistance, your body will probably do well when

00:26:39.259 --> 00:26:42.660
you just do time -based eating. and don't eat

00:26:42.660 --> 00:26:46.640
overnight until your breakfast. Well, thank you

00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:50.900
for clarifying that. Yeah, I must say, this eating

00:26:50.900 --> 00:26:52.980
thing is something I'm going to be introducing

00:26:52.980 --> 00:26:55.440
this month because I've had quite a rough time

00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.980
with my hormones recently. And this is something

00:26:57.980 --> 00:27:03.420
I'm discovering. Food is important. It is. It's

00:27:03.420 --> 00:27:07.119
how we nourish. And it's not only food. Like

00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:12.059
food is part of it. Like food really helps us

00:27:12.059 --> 00:27:17.160
transform or alchemize it into ATP, which is

00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:20.980
the energy currency of our body. But there is

00:27:20.980 --> 00:27:25.759
also other factors that provide that energy currency.

00:27:25.819 --> 00:27:28.019
So it's not just food that we need, we also need

00:27:28.019 --> 00:27:32.339
light. I spoke to that earlier. And we need to

00:27:32.339 --> 00:27:37.579
have specific forms of light to support our body.

00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.180
Yeah, it's something I do and I would love you

00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:43.640
to maybe share some of these biohiking tips,

00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.240
I'm sure you know. But what I've noticed years

00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.460
ago, even before I found out about the blue light

00:27:48.460 --> 00:27:51.579
and all, that it's very, very stressful for me

00:27:51.579 --> 00:27:54.700
to go back at night in the underground. I have

00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:58.859
these extremely strong LED lights or in shops

00:27:58.859 --> 00:28:01.519
and supermarket when it's after 10 and I'm just

00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.119
going home and I'm tired and this light is just

00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.039
so stressing me out. So I started wearing just

00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.119
eyewear, like sunglasses to protect myself. Now

00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.460
I use blue light eyewear. And I feel like that's

00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:16.420
quite a powerful biohack for women for sure.

00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.079
I mean, for everybody. Yeah. So when we have,

00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:22.460
I call this like poor light hygiene, when there

00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:25.720
is too much artificial light and not enough natural

00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.380
light, which is a problem for most people these

00:28:28.380 --> 00:28:32.079
days, this can actually disrupt our ovarian function.

00:28:32.430 --> 00:28:35.470
like severely our progesterone production, our

00:28:35.470 --> 00:28:38.829
mood, our thyroid health, our general, you know,

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:44.210
adrenal health. And what it does is it really

00:28:44.210 --> 00:28:47.470
exhausts our mitochondria, which are the energy

00:28:47.470 --> 00:28:52.869
fuel centers of our cells. And when we allow

00:28:52.869 --> 00:28:56.789
our body to receive natural light and not only

00:28:56.789 --> 00:28:59.470
light through your eyes, also light through your

00:28:59.470 --> 00:29:03.119
skin, like we forget that our skin It's like

00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.180
our biggest organ that can perceive UV light

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:12.259
and different types of UV, penetrate different

00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:15.940
layers in our skin to activate certain parts

00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:19.480
in our cells and help our mitochondria to create

00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:23.980
this ATP that we need. So you can do everything

00:29:23.980 --> 00:29:27.720
right. you know time your meals you can go to

00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.940
bed early you can get up you know early in the

00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:33.559
morning you can do your movement but if you do

00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:36.980
all of that in an artificial light environment

00:29:36.980 --> 00:29:40.259
you're doing actually more harm than good without

00:29:40.259 --> 00:29:43.099
even realizing and I feel that this is where

00:29:43.099 --> 00:29:47.480
a lot of people like lack awareness and knowledge.

00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:51.240
I recently even read this article that said if

00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.420
you go to the gym like five days a week instead

00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:57.599
of you know half of the week going to the gym

00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.900
and half of the week going out and being out

00:29:59.900 --> 00:30:04.460
to do your exercise, being in an LED lit gym

00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:09.400
can actually negate all the benefits that you're

00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:14.160
trying to get from your exercise because the

00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.180
artificial LED light is disrupting it and that's

00:30:18.180 --> 00:30:25.500
a really big thing to realize so it's yes movement

00:30:25.500 --> 00:30:28.680
is good for you and it's good for you know yourself

00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:32.019
your body but you don't want to move too much

00:30:32.019 --> 00:30:36.349
in a very densely artificially lit environment

00:30:36.349 --> 00:30:39.029
because this light is penetrating your skin,

00:30:39.250 --> 00:30:43.349
it's penetrating your retina and it's disrupting

00:30:43.349 --> 00:30:47.309
the benefits that you're seeking with your movements

00:30:47.309 --> 00:30:51.289
because artificial blue light really disrupts

00:30:51.289 --> 00:30:54.369
your mitochondria, it exhausts the mitochondria

00:30:54.369 --> 00:30:59.190
and I feel that this is the missing link in a

00:30:59.190 --> 00:31:02.650
lot of like health conversations. And this is

00:31:02.650 --> 00:31:05.410
also why I've started to ask my clients like,

00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:07.529
what kind of light do you use? What kind of light

00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:09.990
bulbs do you have in your house? And I mean,

00:31:10.069 --> 00:31:12.130
I'm renting this apartment and we have like,

00:31:12.190 --> 00:31:14.089
I don't know where you can see it. No, there

00:31:14.089 --> 00:31:17.769
is like these square LED lights in my apartment.

00:31:18.150 --> 00:31:20.430
I've switched them on once ever since I moved

00:31:20.430 --> 00:31:22.509
here like one and a half year ago because it's

00:31:22.509 --> 00:31:25.950
just too bright and it's disrupting everything.

00:31:26.700 --> 00:31:29.220
So we really want to pay attention to what is

00:31:29.220 --> 00:31:32.180
the kind of light I spent most of my days in.

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:34.740
Like a lot of people are in offices these days.

00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:39.980
A lot of people are inside in offices with artificial

00:31:39.980 --> 00:31:44.519
light and acclimatized temperatures. Like our

00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.140
bodies need to be able to oscillate between different

00:31:47.140 --> 00:31:51.359
types of temperatures to improve immunity. So

00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.980
these two things are two things that we often

00:31:53.980 --> 00:31:57.019
don't talk about. but that are very important

00:31:57.019 --> 00:32:00.680
to take into consideration when someone has problems.

00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.579
Like we cannot underestimate how important light

00:32:04.579 --> 00:32:09.099
exposure is for our bodies and this means in

00:32:09.099 --> 00:32:11.960
the morning we want to have a lot of you know

00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:16.240
more blue type UV light from the sun like preferably

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.180
and in the evening we want to have more infrared

00:32:20.180 --> 00:32:23.589
UV light. entering our eyes because it really

00:32:23.589 --> 00:32:27.930
tells our body to produce melatonin and to prepare

00:32:27.930 --> 00:32:32.269
for the night. Yeah. Yeah, it might sound complicated

00:32:32.269 --> 00:32:35.309
for some people. However, I want to bring it

00:32:35.309 --> 00:32:38.230
down to a very simple notion. Everything that

00:32:38.230 --> 00:32:41.970
you share in a simple way means just be closer

00:32:41.970 --> 00:32:47.630
to nature. Yeah, real light, real rhythm, sun

00:32:47.630 --> 00:32:52.140
goes up, sun goes down, real food. The time to

00:32:52.140 --> 00:32:54.859
eat is really when our bodies need it the most

00:32:54.859 --> 00:32:56.619
and the more attuned we are to the bodies, the

00:32:56.619 --> 00:32:59.559
easier it is to actually just feel it. So just

00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:02.279
being closer to nature makes things so much simpler.

00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:08.299
And from here, what about the 29, 28, 30 -day

00:33:08.299 --> 00:33:11.240
cycle of a woman? How does the healthy cycle

00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:14.339
look like? How would we move through the cycle

00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:17.079
in the most healthy and respectful way to our

00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:25.480
bodies? Shall I first explain how I would describe

00:33:25.480 --> 00:33:28.299
a healthy menstrual cycle? Yes, please. Because

00:33:28.299 --> 00:33:29.900
I feel like a lot of people don't really know

00:33:29.900 --> 00:33:33.220
even absolute basics. So it would be really amazing

00:33:33.220 --> 00:33:35.420
to have the absolute basics of the menstrual

00:33:35.420 --> 00:33:38.640
cycle and how a healthy one looks like in the

00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:45.119
very basic level. So ideally, we have a cycle

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.200
that starts with bright red blood. That's day

00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:53.180
one of our cycle. That's our menstruation, like

00:33:53.180 --> 00:33:56.400
our menstrual time. And for most people, we want

00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.480
to see this between three and seven days, depending

00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.220
on their environment and what their body's normal

00:34:03.220 --> 00:34:07.880
is. And then from our menstruation is actually

00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.539
part of our follicular phase. Like a lot of people

00:34:10.539 --> 00:34:14.099
think it's like four distinct phases, but I prefer

00:34:14.099 --> 00:34:17.699
to see two big phases of the cycle. So we have

00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:20.829
our follicular phase. with menstruation being

00:34:20.829 --> 00:34:23.829
part of the follicular phase because during menstruation

00:34:23.829 --> 00:34:25.989
the egg already starts ripening again for the

00:34:25.989 --> 00:34:29.190
next cycle then in the middle we have a main

00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:32.130
event of our cycle which is ovulation which is

00:34:32.130 --> 00:34:33.989
when the egg is released and when we're most

00:34:33.989 --> 00:34:38.369
fertile and then after ovulation we have a longer

00:34:38.369 --> 00:34:42.750
phase which is our luteal phase and in the first

00:34:42.750 --> 00:34:46.219
part of the cycle so end menstrual phase and

00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:49.260
the follicular phase estrogen is dominant. And

00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:52.380
after we've ovulated, we start producing progesterone.

00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.380
And in the whole luteal phase, progesterone is

00:34:55.380 --> 00:35:01.579
the most dominant hormone. And a healthy menstrual

00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:05.079
cycle is, let's say, between 25 and 35 days.

00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.880
Science says 21 days, but I find that a little

00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.820
bit too short to be quite honest, especially

00:35:09.820 --> 00:35:14.119
if people want to conceive. Bleeding is three

00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.639
to seven days. Ovulation happens somewhere in

00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.880
the middle of the cycle, not always on day 14,

00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:25.539
like that's a myth. And ideally we have a luteal

00:35:25.539 --> 00:35:29.960
phase of about 11, minimum 11 days to make sure

00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.239
that whenever we want to conceive there is enough

00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.619
progesterone to sustain the first part of pregnancy.

00:35:36.810 --> 00:35:40.769
And most people have the lowest energy during

00:35:40.769 --> 00:35:43.829
their period and the highest energy during their

00:35:43.829 --> 00:35:47.150
ovulation. And the last part of the luteal phase

00:35:47.150 --> 00:35:50.710
where people may experience PMS is for most people

00:35:50.710 --> 00:35:55.750
the hardest time to like deal with. I think that's

00:35:55.750 --> 00:35:58.650
also because we culturally have labeled this

00:35:58.650 --> 00:36:01.650
phase as like the trouble phase or the phase

00:36:01.650 --> 00:36:04.329
that nobody wants to deal with. But I feel that

00:36:04.329 --> 00:36:07.840
there is wisdom in every single Yeah, in every

00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.760
single phase. And with my clients, I always try

00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:15.760
to support them to see what their strengths are

00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.739
in each menstrual cycle phase. And it's very

00:36:19.739 --> 00:36:22.219
funny what comes up because people report different

00:36:22.219 --> 00:36:27.039
things, which really shows to me that we cannot

00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.019
generalize the menstrual cycle. Everybody is

00:36:31.019 --> 00:36:35.340
so unique. Every situation is unique. and how

00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:37.659
someone feels and interacts with their cycle

00:36:37.659 --> 00:36:42.800
is very bio individual. And how a cycle expresses

00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:47.119
itself is also very bio individual. I find it

00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.119
deeply empowering to track cycle and symptoms

00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:52.840
and understand oneself over time. I've learned

00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:56.380
so much about myself. I know very specific things

00:36:56.380 --> 00:36:59.619
that happen on very specific day of my cycle,

00:37:00.219 --> 00:37:02.719
like really specific things. And that helps me

00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.940
plan my life. And it helps me indeed understand

00:37:05.940 --> 00:37:08.219
the superpowers because before starting to track

00:37:08.219 --> 00:37:10.639
cycle, it's just frustrating. It's like, I feel

00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.840
shit today and I don't understand why do I feel

00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.059
like, and I should be feeling differently. And

00:37:15.059 --> 00:37:18.099
I'm like, why do I feel not this way? And with

00:37:18.099 --> 00:37:20.440
more awareness comes more appreciation. I'm like,

00:37:20.500 --> 00:37:23.380
I feel this way today. And that means I'm going

00:37:23.380 --> 00:37:26.760
to go and take a long walk and sit under the

00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.780
tree. And then amazing ideas are going to come

00:37:28.780 --> 00:37:31.380
to me. All these little things that I get to

00:37:31.380 --> 00:37:35.000
find out because of tracking is fantastic. And

00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.420
I'm wondering, what do you find about your clients

00:37:39.420 --> 00:37:42.159
and their differences in the way they track and

00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:44.119
what kind of symptoms can arise in different

00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.829
things? just so that we can show people what

00:37:46.829 --> 00:37:50.130
can be known and what awareness we can have?

00:37:51.550 --> 00:37:53.289
Yeah, so first of all, I think it's important

00:37:53.289 --> 00:37:56.030
to understand the difference between tracking

00:37:56.030 --> 00:38:01.010
and charting. So I tried to make this distinction

00:38:01.010 --> 00:38:03.469
because they are used interchangeably and they're

00:38:03.469 --> 00:38:07.489
not really the same. So tracking is really...

00:38:07.849 --> 00:38:11.630
trying to get to know your cycle without necessarily

00:38:11.630 --> 00:38:15.269
using your tracking as birth control or to call

00:38:15.269 --> 00:38:18.849
in pregnancy. And this can look like marking

00:38:18.849 --> 00:38:21.230
when you start bleeding, marking when you stop

00:38:21.230 --> 00:38:25.219
bleeding, marking when there is emotional shifts

00:38:25.219 --> 00:38:28.639
or physical shifts happening in your cycle and

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.219
then marking when you are starting to bleed again

00:38:31.219 --> 00:38:33.420
so that you have an idea on how long your cycle

00:38:33.420 --> 00:38:38.460
was. Whereas charting is really a more in -depth

00:38:38.460 --> 00:38:41.360
practice where you keep track of your biomarkers,

00:38:41.460 --> 00:38:44.960
so your acyl body temperature, your cervical

00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:47.480
mucus, and potentially your cervical texture

00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:52.159
and position. And you use these biomarkers to

00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:55.380
really see where you are in your cycle and when

00:38:55.380 --> 00:38:58.599
your fertile window opens and closes so that

00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.320
you can manage your fertility for conceiving

00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.119
or for preventing pregnancy. And some people

00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:09.840
use tracking and charting in unison. So they'll

00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.199
track their fertility biomarkers, but they'll

00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:15.219
also keep a journal to write down how they feel,

00:39:15.219 --> 00:39:17.739
what happened in your cycle, what they feel drawn

00:39:17.739 --> 00:39:22.280
to. And they can use, you know, It can be used

00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:25.460
in unison, but I really want to make this distinction

00:39:25.460 --> 00:39:30.360
because tracking is not really a way to perform

00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.380
birth control, whereas charting is really like

00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:36.219
the symptoms of thermal methods specifically

00:39:36.219 --> 00:39:39.760
that most people use when they're charting is

00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:44.380
really introduced as a fertility awareness method,

00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.750
but also a birth control method or a method to

00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:51.670
get really clear on when conception could potentially

00:39:51.670 --> 00:39:55.650
happen. Yeah. And so what happens when you...

00:39:55.650 --> 00:39:59.469
Let's speak about tracking. How one can empower

00:39:59.469 --> 00:40:03.539
themselves by tracking their cycle. I feel that

00:40:03.539 --> 00:40:06.679
tracking is a really good tool to get to know

00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:10.380
what your normal is because when you track what

00:40:10.380 --> 00:40:13.059
happens in your body for a couple of months most

00:40:13.059 --> 00:40:16.260
people start to recognize patterns and when you

00:40:16.260 --> 00:40:21.059
recognize patterns you can I think make better

00:40:21.059 --> 00:40:24.599
decisions about your body let's say five days

00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:27.880
before your period starts you know that your

00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:30.840
energy absolutely crashes and many things make

00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.119
you cry and all the things on your to -do list

00:40:33.119 --> 00:40:36.900
feel like an extreme mountain you could potentially

00:40:36.900 --> 00:40:40.760
be more proactive about that and go like oh usually

00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.320
a couple of days before my period I feel this

00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:47.059
way so maybe in the next month I can plan a lower

00:40:47.059 --> 00:40:50.780
workload on that day and see how I respond to

00:40:50.780 --> 00:40:53.019
that and how I feel in my body and whether my

00:40:53.019 --> 00:40:57.380
symptoms or signals of feeling overwhelmed get

00:40:57.380 --> 00:41:04.800
less. And I feel tracking can be really seen

00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:09.159
as almost like a self -love practice because

00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:12.119
you're getting really up close and intimate with

00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:17.219
your body's boundaries. and your body's information

00:41:17.219 --> 00:41:22.420
and how you're feeling your body. And I also

00:41:22.420 --> 00:41:27.300
feel that with tracking, especially if we do

00:41:27.300 --> 00:41:31.280
it every day, we get to know ourselves in each

00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:34.139
phase of our cycle. And I really feel like I'm

00:41:34.139 --> 00:41:36.960
four different women in an entire menstrual cycle.

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:41.420
And I love tapping into like, oh, what does ovatory

00:41:41.420 --> 00:41:43.920
iris need? And what does she crave? And what

00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.639
does she thrive in? And I have that very clear

00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.760
written down in my journal. And so every time

00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.579
I hit that phase, I check in with that part of

00:41:53.579 --> 00:41:57.099
myself and I try to bring her out as much as

00:41:57.099 --> 00:42:01.480
I can and really try to step into that person

00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.239
that I am in that moment in my cycle, because

00:42:04.239 --> 00:42:07.139
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your syllabus and join us today. When I'm ovulating,

00:42:56.829 --> 00:42:58.889
I'm like, oh, next week I'm going to crash. So

00:42:58.889 --> 00:43:02.369
now I'm going to like do all the things that

00:43:02.369 --> 00:43:03.809
I would love to do and do all the things that

00:43:03.809 --> 00:43:07.250
I'm really good at. And I love, you know, when

00:43:07.250 --> 00:43:09.530
I'm ovulating, I usually love like pushing a

00:43:09.530 --> 00:43:12.449
little bit harder in my business and doing all

00:43:12.449 --> 00:43:14.750
these things and finalizing all these projects.

00:43:15.070 --> 00:43:17.349
And I know I'm really good at it. And I also

00:43:17.349 --> 00:43:19.869
know that one week later, I'm not going to feel

00:43:19.869 --> 00:43:22.010
like I want to do all of that. So I tried to

00:43:22.010 --> 00:43:27.199
be very proactive about Yeah, how I feel. Yeah,

00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.940
so this gives, same for me, similarly, it gives

00:43:30.940 --> 00:43:33.820
us awareness that is deeply empowering because

00:43:33.820 --> 00:43:36.079
we can plan so much better for ourselves and

00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.460
take care of ourselves without... being frustrated

00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:42.599
onto anything that might happen or be in the

00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.219
way because of this awareness and awareness is

00:43:45.219 --> 00:43:47.019
the most important step as you've mentioned.

00:43:47.780 --> 00:43:49.639
Yeah. Since you work with so many people on their

00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:52.940
cycles, I wonder what are the most common superpowers

00:43:52.940 --> 00:43:58.300
you find in each phase? Oh, that's a good question.

00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.519
I think in the menstrual phase, a lot of people

00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.000
start embracing their own like permission slip

00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.579
for rest and taking it easier. And when they

00:44:10.579 --> 00:44:14.400
do that, they also usually on day two and three,

00:44:14.659 --> 00:44:19.019
they really tap into their intuition and develop

00:44:19.019 --> 00:44:22.360
their intuitive sense and what that means for

00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.619
them in their lives and how they make decisions.

00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:32.599
And in follicular, I see that people have an

00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:38.019
extra sense or an extra perception about their

00:44:38.670 --> 00:44:41.750
highest potential. So who they can be as a person,

00:44:42.090 --> 00:44:43.829
who they want to be as a woman, who they want

00:44:43.829 --> 00:44:45.349
to be in their business, who they want to be

00:44:45.349 --> 00:44:48.010
in their relationships, who they want to be in

00:44:48.010 --> 00:44:50.289
the world and how they put themselves out there.

00:44:50.329 --> 00:44:52.829
Like I work with a lot of entrepreneurs as well.

00:44:53.349 --> 00:44:56.190
And in the follicular phase, I really see like

00:44:56.190 --> 00:45:00.510
this forward moving force coming out of people

00:45:00.510 --> 00:45:04.449
and people really embracing their own potential

00:45:04.449 --> 00:45:10.360
and their own power. And in ovulation, this gets

00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:15.719
like amplified. And I also have actually met

00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.760
a lot of people in their ovulation who got like

00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.739
the perception like, oh, maybe I shouldn't actually

00:45:22.739 --> 00:45:26.320
be dating while I'm ovulating because I hyper

00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:30.059
-focus on like my dates potential, but not necessarily

00:45:30.059 --> 00:45:32.480
who they are as a person. So maybe I should better

00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:35.760
date them in my luteal phase when I'm like more

00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.860
like like a detective and more like sharp and

00:45:40.860 --> 00:45:44.800
cut bullshit. So I've met a lot of clients who

00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:47.320
had that realization for themselves, especially

00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.739
if they were dating someone. And I think in the

00:45:52.739 --> 00:45:56.480
luteal phase, one of the things that people learn

00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.760
through me and that they give back to me is that

00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.260
in the luteal phase, we need more fuel. We need

00:46:03.260 --> 00:46:07.800
more calories like on a very physical level and

00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:12.320
eating more can really dampen like the nervous

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.960
system response that sometimes get really revved

00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:19.119
up for some people. And that can give people

00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.940
more energy just to get through that phase. And

00:46:21.940 --> 00:46:24.840
this is a game changer for a lot of people, like

00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.079
an insight that they have, like, wow, really,

00:46:27.099 --> 00:46:30.199
when I eat just a little bit more, I feel so

00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.960
much better. And if I eat before my raging hunger

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:38.360
comes up, my mood stays a lot more stable as

00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:41.059
well. So I feel in the luteal phase, it's like

00:46:41.059 --> 00:46:44.739
a very physical, tangible thing that people start

00:46:44.739 --> 00:46:47.960
to realize, like, oh, when I... fuel myself properly,

00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:52.820
my symptoms significantly become less and also

00:46:52.820 --> 00:46:56.559
the planning part. So I teach people and I think

00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:59.980
you do that too, as soon as their period starts

00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:03.099
to like map out their entire cycle in their calendar

00:47:03.099 --> 00:47:07.019
so that they are aware of what is potentially

00:47:07.019 --> 00:47:09.579
coming and of course there is a little bit of

00:47:09.579 --> 00:47:11.699
wiggle room because we never know how a cycle

00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:14.639
is going to unfold but like roughly we can put

00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:18.260
into our calendar And another game changer for

00:47:18.260 --> 00:47:21.940
people is to plan less during their luteal phase

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.980
because a lot of people feel that they're like

00:47:24.980 --> 00:47:30.340
backfiring their decisions. And then they plan

00:47:30.340 --> 00:47:32.500
too much when they're like follicular and ovulatory

00:47:32.500 --> 00:47:34.320
and they feel like, oh, this endless potential.

00:47:34.460 --> 00:47:36.360
And then they land in luteal and you're like,

00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.559
oh no, I plan too much in my calendar what to

00:47:39.559 --> 00:47:42.360
do now. And then they feel guilty to potentially

00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.739
reschedule or cancel. But if we are aware about

00:47:46.739 --> 00:47:51.219
what is coming and take precautions and go like,

00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:53.800
I probably should not be planning too much in

00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.000
my luteal phase, but move it either to my follicular

00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:01.099
phase or just plan less in my luteal. This for

00:48:01.099 --> 00:48:04.000
a lot of people is a game changer. Yeah. I mean,

00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.699
for sure. For sure, I can definitely resonate

00:48:07.699 --> 00:48:11.059
with that. So what are the superpowers of luteal

00:48:11.059 --> 00:48:13.820
phase? What are the good things that come through?

00:48:14.579 --> 00:48:16.900
I mean, as you mentioned in dating, you can become

00:48:16.900 --> 00:48:22.599
way more aware. Yeah, I feel for a lot of people,

00:48:23.019 --> 00:48:27.539
they are very honest. There's a lot of deep honesty

00:48:27.539 --> 00:48:32.960
that can move forward in luteal phase. Usually

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the veil is so thin in Ludial that we cut all

00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:41.880
the bullshit in that phase and I feel that this

00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:47.260
part of Ludial is very much disregarded in our

00:48:47.260 --> 00:48:50.760
society and is perceived as like hysterical or

00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.960
dramatic or overreacting but I think when you

00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.420
really peel it down to what it actually means

00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:00.579
I think this is like the best superpower that

00:49:00.579 --> 00:49:03.019
we can have like everything that's not going

00:49:03.019 --> 00:49:06.119
well in our life or where we are crossing our

00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:10.019
own boundary is like looked at from a magnifying

00:49:10.019 --> 00:49:14.420
glass and it can feel like really big in the

00:49:14.420 --> 00:49:16.539
moment I'm not denying that and it can come with

00:49:16.539 --> 00:49:19.579
like big emotions but if you peel it down to

00:49:19.579 --> 00:49:22.440
the essence of the message there is a lot of

00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.900
wisdom that comes with that and I think if we

00:49:26.900 --> 00:49:29.639
start embracing that more and teach ourselves

00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:33.480
to like see through the emotion and see what

00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.340
the message is underneath that we can like organize

00:49:37.340 --> 00:49:41.940
our lives in such like more embodied ways because

00:49:41.940 --> 00:49:44.800
then we truly listen to what our body is trying

00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:48.179
to tell us because usually at underneath the

00:49:48.179 --> 00:49:51.559
big emotion let's say anger Underneath anger

00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.619
usually is sadness or grief or something that

00:49:54.619 --> 00:49:57.480
we're really not happy with. So I think it's

00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.340
important that we learn when there is a big emotion,

00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.599
can we sit with that and allow it to tell us

00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.659
what's underneath and where we may listen or

00:50:07.659 --> 00:50:10.980
adjust and then use our menstruation and our

00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:14.360
follicular phase to bring forth these changes

00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:18.480
from a more energized space. Yeah, and this is

00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:21.119
how the cycle completes. I love that, right?

00:50:22.139 --> 00:50:25.340
I find this time, ritual phase for many people.

00:50:25.780 --> 00:50:28.800
I don't do cycle coaching, but I do emotional

00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.420
and tantric kind of approach to life. And I am

00:50:32.420 --> 00:50:34.380
seeing in this phase and also for myself, this

00:50:34.380 --> 00:50:37.760
is actually the perfect time to alchemize emotions,

00:50:37.940 --> 00:50:40.280
to do shadow work, to understand yourself, to

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:43.320
practice a ritual because also presence becomes

00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:46.579
easier. is you're no longer distracted as much

00:50:46.579 --> 00:50:48.619
by the force and what to do and all the excitement

00:50:48.619 --> 00:50:51.099
of life that comes in for the clear face and

00:50:51.099 --> 00:50:53.900
here you can actually sit with yourself and see

00:50:53.900 --> 00:50:56.920
and indeed the society has been naming it as

00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.079
like toxic this is when you just cry for no reason

00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.440
and you're a bitch and all of that but really

00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:05.099
if something bothers you so much and that you

00:51:05.099 --> 00:51:07.739
feel it in your chill face so much Probably there

00:51:07.739 --> 00:51:10.420
is a reason for it. Maybe, yes, you're overreacting,

00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.019
but maybe there is something to listen. And I

00:51:13.019 --> 00:51:16.960
find this time can be really beautiful and so

00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:20.000
great and so powerful in so many ways when we

00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:23.119
discover that. Yeah, I completely agree with

00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.119
that. And I think it's also important that we

00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:30.380
realize the way that we perceive time in ludiol

00:51:30.380 --> 00:51:34.159
shifts. Like our body wants to slow down, but

00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:39.219
many of us keep pushing at a specific pace in

00:51:39.219 --> 00:51:42.079
life and keep you know shoving things onto our

00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.920
plate that most likely can wait a little bit

00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:49.679
longer and I feel this is another like biological

00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:53.460
mismatch like how our body perceives time and

00:51:53.460 --> 00:51:57.199
wants to move in luteal is usually much slower

00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:02.400
and not so pushy and we don't like like mountains

00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.650
of things on our plate but When we manage our

00:52:06.650 --> 00:52:10.489
time and our workload in that time we can actually

00:52:10.489 --> 00:52:12.969
land in that space that you are describing where

00:52:12.969 --> 00:52:16.690
we can actually just be present and witness what

00:52:16.690 --> 00:52:19.409
needs to come up for us and then work through

00:52:19.409 --> 00:52:24.289
that in a slow steady pace and have space for

00:52:24.289 --> 00:52:28.590
it. I sometimes say that PMS means providing

00:52:28.590 --> 00:52:33.130
myself with space And I try to remember that

00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:36.090
and remind my clients about that. And it's based

00:52:36.090 --> 00:52:40.190
on every level, mentally, emotionally, physically,

00:52:40.469 --> 00:52:43.590
for some people even sexually. Where do you need

00:52:43.590 --> 00:52:48.920
space in your life? Yeah. And on this note, one

00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.739
thing that I want to share is with people, how

00:52:51.739 --> 00:52:55.079
you say everyone is different and different symptoms

00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.739
are out there on different ways of perceiving

00:52:57.739 --> 00:53:00.000
different phases. And there is one thing that

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.599
people have been always saying in the menstrual

00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:05.840
health space or with cycle thinking that you

00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.360
might be the best at performance in your ovulatory

00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:13.340
phase, like going out there, meeting people and

00:53:13.340 --> 00:53:16.320
being on stage, et cetera. And I do. public speaking,

00:53:16.340 --> 00:53:19.460
and I've noticed before I was, oh, a voluntary

00:53:19.460 --> 00:53:21.699
phase, I should be doing it then because of all

00:53:21.699 --> 00:53:23.360
this information, that's how it's supposed to

00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:27.179
be. And with time, I've noticed I am way better

00:53:27.179 --> 00:53:31.159
at that in my luteal phase because in the voluntary

00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.659
phase, I am intense. I want to be out there.

00:53:33.659 --> 00:53:35.860
I want to do things fast. I want to get it done.

00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:38.920
I want to be, I have a bit too much of that energy.

00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:42.860
And in my, in my luteal phase, I can be just

00:53:42.860 --> 00:53:47.679
slow and present. and just get to the point slowly

00:53:47.679 --> 00:53:51.719
and just stay with the audience. And that's one

00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:54.539
thing I'm fascinated by because I think unless

00:53:54.539 --> 00:53:58.099
we learn about our own unique selves, there is

00:53:58.099 --> 00:54:02.539
no real strong guideline. Everybody needs to

00:54:02.539 --> 00:54:05.480
understand their own cycle and how they in their

00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.400
unique bodies perceive themselves in each phase.

00:54:08.980 --> 00:54:12.300
And maybe there are like common, there are lots

00:54:12.300 --> 00:54:14.480
of common things that happen to many people,

00:54:14.820 --> 00:54:17.760
but it doesn't really mean that that necessarily

00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:22.440
applies to one individual. And yeah, just want

00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:26.019
to highlight that. Yeah, I completely agree with

00:54:26.019 --> 00:54:29.739
that. And I think it's very important to always

00:54:29.739 --> 00:54:33.039
keep in mind this bio individuality, because

00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.579
I feel with like the whole wellness space, there

00:54:35.579 --> 00:54:40.500
is like this perfect image of what a menstrual

00:54:40.500 --> 00:54:42.900
cycle should look like that is projected into

00:54:42.900 --> 00:54:45.559
the world and whenever people are on their healing

00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:47.460
journey and they're like oh my god mine doesn't

00:54:47.460 --> 00:54:50.420
look like that at all people immediately think

00:54:50.420 --> 00:54:52.880
like oh is there like something wrong with me

00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.760
do i need to be fixed is there any pathology

00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:58.320
going on and i really want to like ensure people

00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:02.940
that the way that our cycles manifest has a reason

00:55:03.659 --> 00:55:06.699
and you're not broken if your cycle like one

00:55:06.699 --> 00:55:08.860
or two months skips an ovulation. It's actually

00:55:08.860 --> 00:55:12.340
very normal for that to happen. Like we are an

00:55:12.340 --> 00:55:16.159
ecosystem. Our bodies are ecosystems and all

00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.320
that our body is constantly doing is responding

00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:21.860
to what it receives and what it doesn't receive.

00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:24.659
And it's very important to keep that in mind

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:28.039
and our bodies are very intelligent and they

00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.699
never do something without reason. So even if

00:55:31.699 --> 00:55:34.780
your cycle is not like coming out as perfect

00:55:34.780 --> 00:55:38.119
this month or the next month or the next, trust

00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:42.239
that your body is doing this with a reason. And

00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.360
if you do feel like I actually want support,

00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.300
know that there is support and that you can receive

00:55:49.300 --> 00:55:51.719
support if that's what you feel that you need.

00:55:52.420 --> 00:55:55.329
But don't go thinking if your body just doesn't

00:55:55.329 --> 00:55:57.710
ovulate for one or two months that you're inherently

00:55:57.710 --> 00:56:00.750
broken because there's probably a very physiologic

00:56:00.750 --> 00:56:04.670
reason for that. Why your body has now prioritized

00:56:04.670 --> 00:56:08.510
survival over reproduction. Like we cannot forget

00:56:08.510 --> 00:56:11.809
that our bodies are super smart and they're just

00:56:11.809 --> 00:56:15.090
trying to communicate with us and to respond.

00:56:15.650 --> 00:56:19.429
Yeah. Thank you so much for having me and for

00:56:19.429 --> 00:56:21.809
the people listening. Thank you so much for listening

00:56:21.809 --> 00:56:25.980
and Yeah I love these kinds of conversations

00:56:25.980 --> 00:56:30.760
where we can focus on this very important topic

00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:35.000
in conversation because I feel that storytelling

00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:39.340
is how we have always learned as human beings

00:56:39.340 --> 00:56:42.420
and I feel that podcasting and every time I'm

00:56:42.420 --> 00:56:45.619
invited I'm reminded about this that you know

00:56:45.619 --> 00:56:50.159
we learn through story and we learn through experience

00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:54.030
and Sometimes that's even more important than,

00:56:54.030 --> 00:56:58.010
you know, learning hard science or yeah, reading

00:56:58.010 --> 00:57:00.610
research articles. So I'm very grateful that

00:57:00.610 --> 00:57:05.010
you invited me and that you honor my wisdom and

00:57:05.010 --> 00:57:07.849
my knowledge. And I just want to say thank you.

00:57:08.750 --> 00:57:11.929
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