WEBVTT 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.819 The body is the canvas for awakening and liberation 00:00:03.819 --> 00:00:07.160 and it does keep the score. For many of us this 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:09.300 can be a hard concept to grasp and of course 00:00:09.300 --> 00:00:13.160 it is. We've been glorifying our minds for so 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.739 long and now we think that we can think everything 00:00:16.739 --> 00:00:20.039 and yet our way to happiness and fulfillment 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:22.640 cannot be strategized and thought through. but 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:25.940 it can be felt. In this episode, I speak to Ludivine 00:00:25.940 --> 00:00:29.600 Rose, a spiritual teacher devotee of the Goddess 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.020 with a tantric lineage and a practitioner of 00:00:32.020 --> 00:00:35.000 body devotion, sacred sexuality and classical 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.539 Indian dance. Ludivine has been sharing her wisdom 00:00:38.539 --> 00:00:40.880 with field community from the very beginning 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.759 of our journey and I'm so so honored to be able 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.780 to share her voice here with you as she's not 00:00:46.780 --> 00:00:51.200 that easy to find on the internet. Let's explore 00:00:51.579 --> 00:00:55.140 the body as a sacred map of memory, pleasure, 00:00:55.420 --> 00:00:58.100 and healing. You are listening to The Feminine 00:00:58.100 --> 00:01:02.299 Power Podcast, your portal into embodiment, feminine 00:01:02.299 --> 00:01:05.819 awakening, and the true power of your life force, 00:01:06.340 --> 00:01:09.540 sexual energy. I'm your host, Mariya Grinina, 00:01:10.060 --> 00:01:13.540 founder of Feel, a global platform for feminine 00:01:13.540 --> 00:01:16.980 embodiment and a coach for women ready to live 00:01:16.980 --> 00:01:21.290 with magnetism, love, and full aliveness. If 00:01:21.290 --> 00:01:23.469 you're ready to rise, you're in the right place. 00:01:23.810 --> 00:01:26.950 Follow the show and let's begin. The human body 00:01:26.950 --> 00:01:31.069 is the most magical vessel of remembrance and 00:01:31.069 --> 00:01:37.170 of love. The human body is a temple that, as 00:01:37.170 --> 00:01:40.969 we bring awareness and tenderness and love towards 00:01:40.969 --> 00:01:44.890 it, can reveal mysteries that are held, mysteries 00:01:44.890 --> 00:01:49.560 that have been held for generations. traumas 00:01:49.560 --> 00:01:53.959 and experiences that we have felt in our bodies 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:59.219 that are almost like a roadmap to uncover in 00:01:59.219 --> 00:02:02.640 order to remember who we are. I think many of 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.540 you have heard about the book, The Body Keeps 00:02:04.540 --> 00:02:08.379 the Score. And the body definitely keeps the 00:02:08.379 --> 00:02:12.319 score. It's the map, it's the tissue of what 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:17.580 makes us alive. And in the tantric perspective, 00:02:18.219 --> 00:02:22.719 We talk about four different qualities in order 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:27.759 to embody fully. One is dharma, purpose, kama, 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:33.500 love, artha, wealth, and boga. Wealth, it means 00:02:33.500 --> 00:02:35.819 inner wealth, and boga is enjoyment. And it's 00:02:35.819 --> 00:02:37.860 not just enjoyment in the moment of joy, it's 00:02:37.860 --> 00:02:40.840 enjoyment also in the moment of challenges. And 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.500 that leads to moksha. And moksha is liberation. 00:02:44.500 --> 00:02:50.800 And this is the aim. of life or of many lifetimes. 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.819 And it happened in the body. And that's what's 00:02:55.819 --> 00:02:58.520 extraordinary about a body. I have a body, but 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:02.219 I am not my body. And yet through my body, this 00:03:02.219 --> 00:03:05.280 is going to be the vehicle that is going to allow 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:09.080 me to liberate, which is kind of wild because 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:12.699 perhaps you've all heard this idea of I am one. 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:17.669 Okay, I am one. So why am I limited in a body? 00:03:18.050 --> 00:03:21.930 If I am what? Right? It's this beautiful paradox. 00:03:22.669 --> 00:03:26.590 Because it is only through the body, through 00:03:26.590 --> 00:03:30.810 the gift of this body, that the human being has 00:03:30.810 --> 00:03:35.150 the opportunity to liberate. And so as much as 00:03:35.150 --> 00:03:38.889 the human body is a limitation, as much it becomes 00:03:38.889 --> 00:03:43.120 the canvas for our liberation. And so just to 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.340 go back to the idea of the body keeps the score, 00:03:45.819 --> 00:03:50.699 the body through our life is going to hold memories. 00:03:51.780 --> 00:03:57.939 And the way that I have experienced it is kind 00:03:57.939 --> 00:04:00.919 of a treasure map. And these memories that we've 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:02.680 had when we were children that we didn't even 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:06.199 know created traumas or experiences and we got 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.900 frozen here or blocked there or I have this pattern 00:04:09.900 --> 00:04:12.560 that I don't know or I feel like I'm not completely 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:17.839 myself. And slowly, slowly, by coming into an 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:21.899 intimate relationship with our bodies, our bodies 00:04:21.899 --> 00:04:25.360 starts to communicate with us and say, oh, wow, 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.860 there's this tension here. What is that? Let 00:04:28.860 --> 00:04:32.060 me go explore it." And then you go down a rabbit 00:04:32.060 --> 00:04:35.060 hole of exploration and you discover that something 00:04:35.060 --> 00:04:37.180 happened at this particular time that created 00:04:37.180 --> 00:04:43.439 this particular, literally it is as though the 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:46.220 tissues of your body had been frozen when you 00:04:46.220 --> 00:04:50.649 had a trauma. And it's about... softening into 00:04:50.649 --> 00:04:55.810 it and allowing these tissues to the ice of the 00:04:55.810 --> 00:04:58.550 frozen trauma to become melted into water and 00:04:58.550 --> 00:05:02.990 then soften to remember who you truly are. And 00:05:02.990 --> 00:05:06.389 even if you haven't had a big trauma, every trauma 00:05:06.389 --> 00:05:10.490 is big. When your mommy said, no, I don't have 00:05:10.490 --> 00:05:12.790 time. And you realize, oh my God, I can't have 00:05:12.790 --> 00:05:15.769 love in that moment. That was something that 00:05:15.769 --> 00:05:19.269 could be considered traumatic. And it's very 00:05:19.269 --> 00:05:23.529 beautiful to explore traumas and yet, if we focus 00:05:23.529 --> 00:05:27.170 only on that, we're going to keep on fragmenting. 00:05:27.629 --> 00:05:30.009 And fragmenting is not the goal. The goal is 00:05:30.009 --> 00:05:33.209 to remember our wholeness. And so to be aware 00:05:33.209 --> 00:05:35.730 of the trauma, but not allowing them to define 00:05:35.730 --> 00:05:39.810 us. And in the exploration of pleasure and softening 00:05:39.810 --> 00:05:43.509 and the body, it gives us an opportunity. With 00:05:43.509 --> 00:05:46.079 the body, we cannot hide. Our mind is really 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:48.560 good at hiding. Oh, yes, I know this. I know 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:50.939 that. Yes, I've done the work. But the body in 00:05:50.939 --> 00:05:55.579 that moment, there. Oh, right here it is. Okay. 00:05:56.180 --> 00:06:00.060 So how can I learn how to soften that? Open in 00:06:00.060 --> 00:06:04.279 that. Release in it. And in the release, let 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.019 the memory of what's there, an emotion, an experience, 00:06:09.339 --> 00:06:13.259 a fear, to be revealed in the proper timing. 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:20.819 So, I guess that. I am keen to unpack quite a 00:06:20.819 --> 00:06:25.019 few of your sharings now. And I'd like to go 00:06:25.019 --> 00:06:28.920 with a simple one. As these days, a lot of people 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.300 come to listen to this podcast, for example, 00:06:31.779 --> 00:06:35.360 because they're looking for meaning and for reconnection. 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.540 And this reconnection becomes so important as 00:06:39.540 --> 00:06:42.199 we in the modern world seem to be disconnected 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:46.899 from each other. and from ourselves, from the 00:06:46.899 --> 00:06:50.740 body. And you describe this beauty of the body, 00:06:50.779 --> 00:06:54.480 how much wisdom it holds, and how many answers 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:58.160 could actually be found there. But how does one, 00:06:58.300 --> 00:07:01.379 listening to this and getting inspired, start 00:07:01.379 --> 00:07:05.180 the process of reconnection? Let's start with 00:07:05.180 --> 00:07:09.720 tenderness. And maybe just giving yourself a 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:20.439 hug and saying, I love you. And I'm sorry. I'm 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:24.819 sorry I didn't know better. I'm sorry I've judged 00:07:24.819 --> 00:07:29.680 you. I'm sorry I've criticized you. I'm sorry 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:34.959 I didn't even know that you existed. Because 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:38.600 my whole life I've thought that you were just 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.759 a hindrance, perhaps. or something that was not 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:47.000 the way I thought it needed to be. And in entering 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:51.180 this intimate relationship, which means wanting 00:07:51.180 --> 00:07:55.319 something with and not something from the body, 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:00.439 the body starts remembering and then saying, 00:08:00.459 --> 00:08:04.920 oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. Can you show me how 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:10.540 to remember? Ask your body to show you how it 00:08:10.540 --> 00:08:14.459 wants you to remember connection. But then there's 00:08:14.459 --> 00:08:18.459 some very practical tools. Things that feel good. 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:23.899 Feel. Feel good. Oh, what feels good. I like 00:08:23.899 --> 00:08:29.399 taking baths. And in the bath, I can just maybe 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:33.620 put a drop of rose oil in my bath and then let 00:08:33.620 --> 00:08:38.679 my body be in the bath and then touch my feet. 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:42.120 and say, thank you to my feet. Imagine your feet. 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:45.399 They've been holding your whole body since you 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.460 were maybe one years old. Isn't that extraordinary? 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:53.620 Then you go up to every part of your body, thinking 00:08:53.620 --> 00:08:58.779 them one by one and touching them. Using the 00:08:58.779 --> 00:09:03.399 word and the touch at the same time creates something 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:08.120 of an embodiment. It's just not an idea. It's 00:09:08.120 --> 00:09:10.700 not I'm thinking about my feet is I'm thinking 00:09:10.700 --> 00:09:15.779 I'm looking I'm feeling and touching it and Even 00:09:15.779 --> 00:09:17.500 if you don't like your feet or you don't like 00:09:17.500 --> 00:09:22.000 your breasts just having a moment of being present 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:27.059 with it and then you get to your breasts and 00:09:27.059 --> 00:09:30.580 The breasts is the breasts are the most incredible 00:09:30.580 --> 00:09:34.100 thing in the world they're actually like the 00:09:34.100 --> 00:09:38.620 guardians of the treasure of our heart. And I 00:09:38.620 --> 00:09:42.559 think all the feminine path is, well, guiding 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:45.779 us towards opening our hearts and feeling more. 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:49.059 But it's been so guarded because of pain and 00:09:49.059 --> 00:09:52.419 traumas and experiences and this disconnection. 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:55.539 Well, we're disconnected from our hearts, we're 00:09:55.539 --> 00:09:57.519 disconnected from our body, we're disconnected 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:01.279 from nature. And so our breasts are literally 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:04.080 the guardians of that. And I know about you, 00:10:04.179 --> 00:10:08.960 but I've judged my breasts a lot. You want them 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:10.539 to be bigger, you want them to be firmer, you 00:10:10.539 --> 00:10:11.799 want them to be smaller, you want them to be 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:17.360 all these things. But when we stop and we realize 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:22.159 that our breasts can nourish life, literally 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.159 with your breasts you can feed a baby. And if 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:29.240 you're not feeding a baby, what are you feeding? 00:10:30.460 --> 00:10:33.580 What are you nourishing with your breast? And 00:10:33.580 --> 00:10:36.559 that's where all of the practices of Taoism of 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:40.539 breast massage come in, where you literally use 00:10:40.539 --> 00:10:44.120 the magic of your breast to nourish yourself 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:47.120 and your heart. And then once your heart is full, 00:10:47.379 --> 00:10:50.139 then you get to nourish the world. And so it's 00:10:50.139 --> 00:10:54.399 coming into a remembrance that your body is perfect 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.710 the way it is. Not only is it perfect, it's magic. 00:10:59.429 --> 00:11:02.750 Not only is it magic, it is the place that is 00:11:02.750 --> 00:11:06.690 going to give you a possibility of liberation. 00:11:07.730 --> 00:11:11.429 How do I recognize that? And in the Taoist tradition, 00:11:11.470 --> 00:11:16.610 we call the breasts the bells of love. And what 00:11:16.610 --> 00:11:22.190 is a bell? Why do you have a bell? To call into 00:11:22.190 --> 00:11:26.480 something? To call in? Wake up? Yeah, to wake 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.139 up. You just hold your breath and they're just 00:11:30.139 --> 00:11:33.159 saying, wake up, wake up, wake up to the magic 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:37.940 that you are. And so shifting from wanting something 00:11:37.940 --> 00:11:41.559 from them, being smaller, bigger, this or that, 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:46.419 to wanting something with them. So yeah, maybe 00:11:46.419 --> 00:11:49.740 that's a very simple practice or a way to connect 00:11:49.740 --> 00:11:53.120 to the beauty that exists in our heart. Yeah. 00:11:53.549 --> 00:11:59.210 I'm finding in my personal path that there kind 00:11:59.210 --> 00:12:03.309 of were two pathways about learning about life 00:12:03.309 --> 00:12:09.409 and one of them was the usual one where everything 00:12:09.409 --> 00:12:11.769 in the world tells me that there is something 00:12:11.769 --> 00:12:14.570 wrong with me and therefore I have to fix. And 00:12:14.570 --> 00:12:19.809 it is a very much of a commercial funded kind 00:12:19.809 --> 00:12:23.590 of path because that makes me want to buy more 00:12:23.590 --> 00:12:27.409 things to fix myself. Very much of a consumer 00:12:27.409 --> 00:12:32.000 oriented kind of mindset. And that's where I 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:36.059 was in my first maybe 20 years of my life. I'm 00:12:36.059 --> 00:12:40.299 quite lucky to connect with beautiful teachings 00:12:40.299 --> 00:12:44.159 early on, and that I believe really helped me 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.080 to be where I am right now. But still, advertising, 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:52.740 social media, TV, what everyone is talking about, 00:12:52.820 --> 00:12:56.720 I need to... do this kind of diet, fix my body, 00:12:56.940 --> 00:12:59.159 do this kind of exercise, buy this kind of supplements 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:01.539 or do this kind of surgeries or do like there 00:13:01.539 --> 00:13:04.580 is a constant brainwash that is unfortunately 00:13:04.580 --> 00:13:08.720 really present still now everywhere. And that 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:13.120 mindset apart from of course making us just run 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:16.200 around and try to find solutions to our own selves 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:19.600 simply also disconnects from this beautiful magic 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:23.120 that we can embrace when we take the second path 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.279 that you are just describing, actually realizing 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:30.899 that we can work with the body to change everything 00:13:30.899 --> 00:13:35.789 around us and to truly enjoy life. Somehow, And 00:13:35.789 --> 00:13:39.250 I wonder why, maybe you have a perspective, in 00:13:39.250 --> 00:13:42.029 ancient teachings and in some lineages, this 00:13:42.029 --> 00:13:45.389 was something that was more obvious and something 00:13:45.389 --> 00:13:50.190 that was more looked into and brought forward 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:53.029 in the society. What do you think is that? How 00:13:53.029 --> 00:13:56.049 did we get disconnected from it? Thank you for 00:13:56.049 --> 00:14:02.110 that. I think a lot has to do with our relationship 00:14:02.110 --> 00:14:08.039 to nature. and far away from nature. When you're 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:11.139 dependent on nature to nourish you, you understand 00:14:11.139 --> 00:14:14.919 that winter has its season and then comes spring 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:20.279 and then summer comes and then fall comes again. 00:14:20.740 --> 00:14:23.899 And there is this cyclical nature that allows 00:14:23.899 --> 00:14:26.899 our body to be in communion with the body of 00:14:26.899 --> 00:14:30.500 the world. And a lot of these ancient teachings 00:14:30.500 --> 00:14:34.539 understood that. that I can actually be in tune 00:14:34.539 --> 00:14:38.220 with the body of the world and that nourishes 00:14:38.220 --> 00:14:40.860 me. It's this relationship again to intimacy. 00:14:40.980 --> 00:14:44.440 We are disconnected because the intimacy has 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.179 been lost. And intimacy comes from the Latin 00:14:47.179 --> 00:14:49.860 word intima, which means the core of who we are. 00:14:50.179 --> 00:14:52.720 So the connection to the core of who we are, 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:56.860 which is a being in relationality to the world, 00:14:57.139 --> 00:15:00.850 has been forgotten. You are standing on the planet 00:15:00.850 --> 00:15:04.309 spinning in the middle of the cosmos right now. 00:15:05.190 --> 00:15:09.250 How extraordinary is that? And the whole path 00:15:09.250 --> 00:15:12.970 is about how can I find myself? How can I find 00:15:12.970 --> 00:15:16.809 my place within the tapestry of the world? And 00:15:16.809 --> 00:15:20.470 when we raise children that understand that they 00:15:20.470 --> 00:15:24.059 are part of the natural world. That they have 00:15:24.059 --> 00:15:27.220 everything inside of them as resources. That 00:15:27.220 --> 00:15:30.100 there is a gift inside of their heart that is 00:15:30.100 --> 00:15:33.440 each and everybody has an individual gift. And 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:37.519 we are here to celebrate and honor that. We shift 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:42.259 from competition to collaboration. We shift from 00:15:42.259 --> 00:15:44.740 learning through pain to learning through pleasure. 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:49.480 We shift from separation to connection. We shift 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:53.200 from being against something to being with something 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:56.820 and rather than everybody fighting with each 00:15:56.820 --> 00:16:00.240 other trying to dominate each other we perhaps 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:04.700 can enter to humility that we all belong to an 00:16:04.700 --> 00:16:08.320 interconnected web and that what I have to offer 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:11.100 is going to help you shine what you have to offer 00:16:11.100 --> 00:16:13.659 and what you have to offer will help shine somebody 00:16:13.659 --> 00:16:18.100 else and then in this sharing of love and care. 00:16:18.350 --> 00:16:21.610 The abundance is there. And I don't think it's 00:16:21.610 --> 00:16:24.509 a change. You said the word change. I don't think 00:16:24.509 --> 00:16:27.409 we have to change anything. We just have to remove 00:16:27.409 --> 00:16:32.509 the veil and see things as they are. And everything 00:16:32.509 --> 00:16:36.230 about the society of the consumerist society 00:16:36.230 --> 00:16:39.289 of the last, you know, it's of the last hundreds 00:16:39.289 --> 00:16:42.830 of years. is just pulling us further and further 00:16:42.830 --> 00:16:45.230 away from the essence of who we are because, 00:16:45.610 --> 00:16:48.529 well, we can make money from it and then we think 00:16:48.529 --> 00:16:50.809 that we don't have enough and so I need to have 00:16:50.809 --> 00:16:53.889 more. But if we take off that premise that you're 00:16:53.889 --> 00:16:56.629 not broken, that you're actually perfect the 00:16:56.629 --> 00:16:59.629 way you are, and that there is a treasure inside 00:16:59.629 --> 00:17:04.410 of your heart wanting to be revealed, what is 00:17:04.410 --> 00:17:08.430 the environment that you need to be surrounded 00:17:08.430 --> 00:17:11.700 by? in order for that treasure to come to the 00:17:11.700 --> 00:17:14.839 surface. And that's an environment of safety 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.779 and trust. And in your own life, the safety and 00:17:19.779 --> 00:17:23.079 trust is with your own body. It is safe to be 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.279 in this body. I trust this body. I know for many 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.240 years it wasn't safe. I know for many years I 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.329 couldn't trust it. And so learning to trust our 00:17:33.329 --> 00:17:36.750 bodies becomes almost the most rebellious act 00:17:36.750 --> 00:17:40.470 against consumerism and against all of society 00:17:40.470 --> 00:17:43.630 because it's saying, I have the answers, not 00:17:43.630 --> 00:17:46.890 I, my mind, but my body and my heart has the 00:17:46.890 --> 00:17:53.190 answers. And it's not my truth. It is a truth 00:17:53.190 --> 00:17:59.359 that you are abundant, that. The essence of the 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:04.160 divine is overflowing with presence and continuous 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:09.240 love always. And yet there are seasons. The thing 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:12.180 is that we always want to be in summer, or advertising 00:18:12.180 --> 00:18:14.039 companies make me think that we always want to 00:18:14.039 --> 00:18:16.880 be in summer, at the peak of ourselves. In our 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.420 menstrual cycle we need to always be in ovulation. 00:18:19.859 --> 00:18:23.769 Hello, that's not sustainable. It is a system, 00:18:23.789 --> 00:18:25.589 and I don't want to talk about patriarchy and 00:18:25.589 --> 00:18:28.329 matriarchy, but it is a system that is asking 00:18:28.329 --> 00:18:32.910 us to be in a performance -driven state always, 00:18:33.470 --> 00:18:36.650 rather than being in the natural being state, 00:18:37.170 --> 00:18:40.509 which is cyclical, especially as women. We move 00:18:40.509 --> 00:18:42.789 with our cycles, we move with the cycles of the 00:18:42.789 --> 00:18:45.549 moon. Just look at the moon. The moon is changing 00:18:45.549 --> 00:18:48.099 all the time. And what is she doing by doing 00:18:48.099 --> 00:18:51.519 nothing? She is shifting all of the waters in 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:54.000 all the world and in all of our body and in all 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.660 of nature. This is the power that you hold in 00:18:57.660 --> 00:19:02.579 your body as well. And so, as we remember that, 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:09.440 we don't need anything anymore. And yet, we become 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:12.839 completely interdependent with the world that 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:15.460 is around us and with each other. And so it's 00:19:15.460 --> 00:19:18.400 really shifting the dialogue from being independent 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:23.779 to interdependent, from doing something yourself 00:19:23.779 --> 00:19:28.099 to doing something in a togetherness, from really 00:19:28.099 --> 00:19:31.400 this idea of competition to collaboration. And 00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.119 even if our body, oh, I'm going to compete with 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:35.000 my body, I'm going to have it to look like this, 00:19:35.019 --> 00:19:37.059 and it's going to have to be like this, or as 00:19:37.059 --> 00:19:40.140 like, if you collaborate with your body, your 00:19:40.140 --> 00:19:43.000 body might give you some really good wisdom that 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:49.180 you would have not. on this note you've mentioned 00:19:49.180 --> 00:19:52.579 we could be learning not from pain but from pleasure 00:19:52.579 --> 00:19:56.839 and I must say I learned so much more and so 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.000 much better from pleasure not only it feels good 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.099 but it also shows me insights that I would never 00:20:04.099 --> 00:20:07.119 come across cognitively and when I make myself 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:11.869 feel good then I am I'm a better creator. I'm 00:20:11.869 --> 00:20:17.089 a better person. I'm just connected so much more. 00:20:17.849 --> 00:20:21.990 And on the opposite, also coming to this conclusion 00:20:21.990 --> 00:20:26.609 for myself, first I had to go through ideas and 00:20:26.609 --> 00:20:29.750 thoughts that even some spiritual teachings, 00:20:30.009 --> 00:20:31.910 not only the modern world, but some spiritual 00:20:31.910 --> 00:20:35.789 teachings would share around pleasure isn't something 00:20:35.789 --> 00:20:39.809 that we should be... working towards or with 00:20:39.809 --> 00:20:44.910 rather we have to practice discipline and stillness. 00:20:45.630 --> 00:20:48.630 Generally, the whole education system I went 00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:51.950 through as a normal child would all be about 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:55.839 punishment, doing well or being punished, doing 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:58.819 the right thing or being punished. And now as 00:20:58.819 --> 00:21:01.539 I'm going through my adult life, I'm seeing that 00:21:01.539 --> 00:21:04.079 it doesn't really work for me. I want to be inspired. 00:21:04.319 --> 00:21:07.400 I want to be with my open heart moving forward. 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:10.180 And then I'm the best creator. I suppose I should 00:21:10.180 --> 00:21:12.420 be afraid of doing something wrong and therefore 00:21:12.420 --> 00:21:17.759 perform okay. And what is that about? What is 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:21.730 this confusion around pleasure? I think it's 00:21:21.730 --> 00:21:23.950 something very, very old that has been instilled 00:21:23.950 --> 00:21:27.230 in our bodies and we're remembering. We're remembering 00:21:27.230 --> 00:21:30.750 that, well, pleasure and discipline are actually 00:21:30.750 --> 00:21:34.309 very deeply connected. And discipline, people 00:21:34.309 --> 00:21:37.309 are very scared about it, but actually, discipline 00:21:37.309 --> 00:21:40.970 is a key because discipline creates a good vessel. 00:21:41.829 --> 00:21:46.910 In a good vessel, a good body, you have a capacity 00:21:46.910 --> 00:21:50.759 to feel pleasure, not only to feel it, but to 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:54.119 cultivate it. And then your pleasure not just 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:57.779 being your own, but then blossoming in your heart 00:21:57.779 --> 00:22:02.039 and then being able to use it to serve. Because 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.160 pleasure for your own sake is good, you need 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:06.519 pleasure at first after having gone through so 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:09.180 much pain. But then it's just for yourself, then 00:22:09.180 --> 00:22:12.200 we get lost. And oftentimes when we don't have 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.920 the discipline, we become leaky. Oh, I'm going 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.059 to be hedonist. Hedonism is great for a minute, 00:22:17.460 --> 00:22:21.240 but what's the goal? What's the aim? And if the 00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.839 aim is serving, which is actually my aim is serving, 00:22:25.180 --> 00:22:28.799 serving the divine as the expressions that I 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.660 am as the gift that I am or the gift that you 00:22:30.660 --> 00:22:34.059 are, well, discipline is required. And regarding 00:22:34.059 --> 00:22:36.240 the pain and pleasure, I think there's many different... 00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:40.460 traditions over the years and its interpretation 00:22:40.460 --> 00:22:43.359 of traditions. I'll put it like that because 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:45.839 Zen, for example, looks very disciplined and 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.160 seem very distant from the body and pleasure 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.400 and yet there is so much pleasure in that discipline 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:57.079 and showing in the Zazen and sitting straight. 00:22:57.859 --> 00:23:01.400 But we get misunderstandings. There is so much 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.339 in Christianity, in the Judeo -Christian tradition, 00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:07.119 we have been, like, told, you know, pleasure 00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:09.980 is not good, you have to, like, be punished for 00:23:09.980 --> 00:23:13.619 what you do, you're a sinner. And, well, I was 00:23:13.619 --> 00:23:16.779 very scared of the word sin. But actually, sinning 00:23:16.779 --> 00:23:20.900 simply means missing the mark of love. Oh, okay, 00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:23.819 well, I'm sinning all the time. And if it means 00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:26.619 missing the mark of love, how tender can I be 00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:30.859 with myself? to walk back into love. And so I 00:23:30.859 --> 00:23:34.579 think in many traditions, we have misread again 00:23:34.579 --> 00:23:39.480 what the original teachings are. And because 00:23:39.480 --> 00:23:45.799 of our own experiences, we have created a relationship 00:23:45.799 --> 00:23:49.980 to pain. No pain, no gain. Well, no, no, no, 00:23:49.980 --> 00:23:54.039 no, no. What are we doing here? And obviously, 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.619 life is life. and we're going to meet challenges 00:23:57.619 --> 00:24:00.980 and it's going to be painful. But in this concept 00:24:00.980 --> 00:24:05.779 of boka, enjoyment, if we come to understand 00:24:05.779 --> 00:24:09.279 that everything that happens doesn't happen to 00:24:09.279 --> 00:24:15.640 us, but for us, then these experiences of challenges, 00:24:16.819 --> 00:24:21.619 yes, we need to cry. Yes, it's going to be challenging. 00:24:22.180 --> 00:24:25.980 Yes. It's going to be hard at times. But if we 00:24:25.980 --> 00:24:28.900 know it happens for us because it's moving us 00:24:28.900 --> 00:24:33.480 into deeper growth, then we can surrender. And 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:35.940 that's where it's a discipline of surrender. 00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:39.880 You can surrender to the experience by feeling 00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.500 safety and trust in your body and saying, I know 00:24:43.500 --> 00:24:46.079 it's hard right now, but we're going to move 00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:50.500 through this. And in moving through this, well, 00:24:51.150 --> 00:25:04.910 We can open to a wider breadth of experience. 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.740 I work a lot with taste, I work a lot with the 00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:26.380 tongue, softening the tongue. When you soften 00:25:26.380 --> 00:25:30.539 your tongue, your pelvic floor softens. And so 00:25:30.539 --> 00:25:32.440 you're even having an experience that's very 00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:34.359 challenging and you just see you're like reacting, 00:25:34.420 --> 00:25:37.099 your whole body's getting rigid. And the moment 00:25:37.099 --> 00:25:39.599 that you soften the tongue and step back into 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:43.900 yourself, okay, I'm stepping back into myself. 00:25:44.250 --> 00:25:48.329 I want something with this moment. Okay. And 00:25:48.329 --> 00:25:51.869 then in there, even the very challenging situation 00:25:51.869 --> 00:25:55.869 can become pleasurable. This whole idea that 00:25:55.869 --> 00:25:58.630 we have that we have to be good girls. This whole 00:25:58.630 --> 00:26:01.109 idea that we have that we have to be the best. 00:26:01.470 --> 00:26:03.970 This whole idea of competing with ourselves. 00:26:04.490 --> 00:26:06.809 Started very young, you know, when our parents 00:26:06.809 --> 00:26:08.829 ask us, what do you want to be when you grow 00:26:08.829 --> 00:26:12.609 up? I can't just be, I have to be somebody. I 00:26:12.609 --> 00:26:15.390 have to be something. Well, what am I going to 00:26:15.390 --> 00:26:17.289 be? Well, I'm going to be the best. Because if 00:26:17.289 --> 00:26:19.009 I'm the best, I'm going to get the love of my 00:26:19.009 --> 00:26:23.509 mom and my dad. And then this relates to God. 00:26:24.390 --> 00:26:27.730 It's like, if I'm perfect, if I'm a perfect devotee, 00:26:27.730 --> 00:26:31.549 God will look at me. Well, you are already perfect. 00:26:32.569 --> 00:26:35.490 And God will look at you. And your parents will 00:26:35.490 --> 00:26:40.089 look at you as you develop an intimacy with yourself. 00:26:40.509 --> 00:26:43.549 Because you and them, and you and it. are one 00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:49.130 and the same. And the more you let the armors 00:26:49.130 --> 00:26:52.849 of your heart melt, rather than functioning from 00:26:52.849 --> 00:26:56.230 a place of protection that is based on fear, 00:26:57.069 --> 00:27:00.309 you can operate from a place of guardianship 00:27:00.309 --> 00:27:04.329 that is based on love. In your heart there is 00:27:04.329 --> 00:27:07.490 the most precious treasure, and this treasure 00:27:07.490 --> 00:27:12.440 is held in the temple of your body. How can I 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:18.880 be a guardian of this? Huh. Yeah, that. If you 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.940 forget, it stares like, well, I know I have something 00:27:20.940 --> 00:27:22.880 precious, but I need to protect it because I 00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.519 don't know how to get it. So I need to protect 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:28.279 it and anything in it. And then we go into reactive 00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:31.900 mode. So how can we be conscious and respond 00:27:31.900 --> 00:27:38.490 and not unconscious and react? Right? years of 00:27:38.490 --> 00:27:41.289 practice and tenderness and coming together in 00:27:41.289 --> 00:27:43.490 community. I really, really do believe we're 00:27:43.490 --> 00:27:46.490 in a moment where community, sangha, family becomes 00:27:46.490 --> 00:27:50.869 essential. Yeah. Yeah, I can still feel it. Yeah, 00:27:50.890 --> 00:27:53.569 we're learning from each other. I'm so honored 00:27:53.569 --> 00:27:56.269 to share your teachings on the feminine power 00:27:56.269 --> 00:27:59.329 blueprint course that's coming up in October 00:27:59.329 --> 00:28:01.970 with women from all over the world. It's the 00:28:01.970 --> 00:28:05.069 second time we do this container. And I invited 00:28:05.069 --> 00:28:09.359 you to teach. The erotic innocence, the subject 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:12.319 that's been so transformative as you've been 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.880 sharing on it with us already for quite a few 00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:19.519 years. And I would love to ask you here, what 00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.980 is it about? What is erotic innocence? And why 00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:28.259 is it so important for us to transform? The erotic 00:28:28.259 --> 00:28:33.579 innocence to me is a continuous reminder that 00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:37.460 we are actually living in the garden. And yes, 00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:41.039 there was the fall. But I think Eve was totally 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.579 aware of what she was doing. A lot of people 00:28:43.579 --> 00:28:45.880 say, oh yeah, it's all the fault of women. And 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.119 then this became patriarchy. No, Eve was very 00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:51.819 much aware. At least this is my understanding. 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.220 Because she knew we had to forget in order to 00:28:56.220 --> 00:29:00.420 remember. If we hadn't forgotten about the garden. 00:29:01.379 --> 00:29:04.680 about the fact that we are the essence of abundance 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.119 and joy and pleasure, we would have not remembered. 00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.380 And so the erotic innocence is about remembering 00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:15.720 that. It's about opening back to the innocence 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.000 and the playfulness and the tenderness of being 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:23.660 erotic beings, like the bees that are feeding 00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:28.799 from the roses and then going and pollinating 00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:35.690 the world. We are. pure erotic forces creating 00:29:35.690 --> 00:29:41.369 life. And when we want something from life, we're 00:29:41.369 --> 00:29:43.230 going to get it. We're going to manipulate it. 00:29:43.250 --> 00:29:46.549 Well, interesting. But oftentimes you get the 00:29:46.549 --> 00:29:47.910 stuff you want, but it's not really what you 00:29:47.910 --> 00:29:50.710 want. It's what your mind wants. And it wants 00:29:50.710 --> 00:29:54.750 because it wants out of fear. I want this because 00:29:54.750 --> 00:29:58.250 I fear not having it. Whereas when we enter the 00:29:58.250 --> 00:30:02.500 erotic innocence, it's simply being with your 00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:06.940 body, with the joy that exists within your body, 00:30:07.380 --> 00:30:13.299 and allowing innocently, spontaneously, tenderly 00:30:13.299 --> 00:30:17.019 to see what wants to emerge. And so from there, 00:30:17.019 --> 00:30:21.319 we can really create life, not manifest life 00:30:21.319 --> 00:30:25.900 out of fear, but create life out of presence. 00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:32.109 And so it requires something quite radical. to 00:30:32.109 --> 00:30:38.529 be totally spontaneous in the moment. It requires 00:30:38.529 --> 00:30:45.450 something complete to trust our bodies and to 00:30:45.450 --> 00:30:48.950 trust the erotic force that creates all of life. 00:30:49.529 --> 00:30:54.970 We are born out of an orgasm. even if the woman 00:30:54.970 --> 00:30:57.470 or the man didn't have an orgasm in that moment, 00:30:57.890 --> 00:31:00.609 the moment a sperm touches an egg, that's an 00:31:00.609 --> 00:31:05.069 orgasmic response. Whoa, that's what created 00:31:05.069 --> 00:31:10.750 us. Okay, so how can we allow that to be what 00:31:10.750 --> 00:31:16.309 is going to create all of life around us? And 00:31:16.309 --> 00:31:21.650 I think, you know, For many, we've had our sexuality 00:31:21.650 --> 00:31:26.730 repressed, suppressed, abused, taken advantage 00:31:26.730 --> 00:31:29.930 of. And what has happened is that we have cut 00:31:29.930 --> 00:31:32.130 off ourselves from that part. So there's two 00:31:32.130 --> 00:31:35.650 ways. Either we over -sexualized or we cut it 00:31:35.650 --> 00:31:43.089 off. And in both ways, well, if we've had an 00:31:43.089 --> 00:31:46.609 experience of trauma, the person that did that 00:31:46.609 --> 00:31:49.630 is still... And I know it's not about a win or 00:31:49.630 --> 00:31:52.970 a loss, but they're still having control on us 00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:57.190 because our response, either overt or retracted, 00:31:57.410 --> 00:32:00.750 is still responding to the event that has happened. 00:32:01.890 --> 00:32:04.650 Whereas if we move into this conversation that 00:32:04.650 --> 00:32:07.809 we're speaking about, we're not broken. I can 00:32:07.809 --> 00:32:13.369 go back into wholeness. How does my body want 00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:20.259 to express itself if I know? that my erotic self 00:32:20.259 --> 00:32:25.319 is the most precious, innocent thing that exists 00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.329 and it creates life. My breasts can nourish life. 00:32:29.690 --> 00:32:32.289 My ovaries are holding all of the fertility of 00:32:32.289 --> 00:32:36.710 the world. My tongue can soften my yoni. My eyes 00:32:36.710 --> 00:32:40.569 are directly connected to my heart. I can taste, 00:32:40.569 --> 00:32:45.190 smell, hear, sense, feel everything around me. 00:32:45.349 --> 00:32:48.849 And all of that is the expression of what I am 00:32:48.849 --> 00:32:55.089 here to share in the world. Whoa. I don't know. 00:32:57.049 --> 00:33:00.509 Life gets really delicious. I wish more people 00:33:00.509 --> 00:33:03.750 would return to this essence. This does give 00:33:03.750 --> 00:33:07.910 a lot of freedom. And coming out of a state of 00:33:07.910 --> 00:33:10.450 a victim is deeply important and something important 00:33:10.450 --> 00:33:12.910 to address as so many women indeed have had a 00:33:12.910 --> 00:33:15.990 sexual trauma that might result in misunderstanding 00:33:15.990 --> 00:33:20.029 of this energy. And there is a lot of conditioning 00:33:20.029 --> 00:33:25.250 still that is on the way. And that's where... 00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:29.839 Discipline becomes essential. Because in those 00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.640 moments of innocence as a child, our parents 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:35.619 didn't protect us. Okay? They didn't know how. 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.880 They didn't. And these moments happened and we 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.039 lost the innocence. But when we retrieve the 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:46.339 innocence, the discipline of holding the masculine 00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:50.720 in us, that is not going to protect out of fear, 00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:55.390 but guard out of love that preciousness, It's 00:33:55.390 --> 00:33:57.589 not going to share this delight with whoever 00:33:57.589 --> 00:34:01.730 is on the street. No, no, no. You get to learn 00:34:01.730 --> 00:34:08.230 discernment, proper timing, coherence, and how 00:34:08.230 --> 00:34:14.050 this energy can be expressed at will, in the 00:34:14.050 --> 00:34:18.730 proper conditions. The world is a safe place, 00:34:19.530 --> 00:34:24.519 and there are many situations. that get challenging 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:28.340 and complicated. But if we have this discipline 00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:33.420 of shaping nothing will make me waver from the 00:34:33.420 --> 00:34:36.980 knowing of this love in my heart. This is the 00:34:36.980 --> 00:34:39.699 most precious thing that I will guard with all 00:34:39.699 --> 00:34:44.300 of my love. That's where the discipline becomes 00:34:44.300 --> 00:34:48.320 essential. Ludivine Rose has a series of 12 practices 00:34:48.320 --> 00:34:51.809 inside field membership. helping women to feel 00:34:51.809 --> 00:34:54.409 the sacredness of their body, their fertility 00:34:54.409 --> 00:34:57.789 and sexual energy. Guided Tantric dance, breast 00:34:57.789 --> 00:35:02.050 massage and meditations. You can join the membership 00:35:02.050 --> 00:35:05.659 now and take these teachings into practice. And 00:35:05.659 --> 00:35:07.800 if you'd like to transform your relationship 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.659 to your energy and embody your feminine power, 00:35:11.139 --> 00:35:13.619 you can join us for a three -month live initiation 00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:17.440 called Feminine Power Blueprint starting this 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.000 October 2nd, where Ludivine will teach erotic 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:24.599 innocence and myself and 10 more teachers will 00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:28.280 share the wisdom all women deserve to have for 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.159 the most fulfilling lives we can all have. You 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.019 can find more information in this episode description. 00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.639 This kind of state when you are so connected 00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.019 to your inner masculine that is healthy and also 00:35:42.019 --> 00:35:44.599 allow the flow and pleasure and sensuality and 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.079 this kind of chaos to happen in its safe container, 00:35:47.860 --> 00:35:52.780 this is what I find to be power, a sense of power. 00:35:53.659 --> 00:35:57.039 Unfortunately, again, I am finding in the world 00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.719 that very few people are even aware of such possibility. 00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:04.820 as we enter in spaces with women and start sharing 00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:08.800 with each other on our struggles or our desires, 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:13.019 it comes up a lot that many, many women do not 00:36:13.019 --> 00:36:17.860 feel the sense of safety and therefore feel a 00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:21.139 little lost. And what you've just shared, this 00:36:21.139 --> 00:36:24.820 inner masculine. could be so empowering if more 00:36:24.820 --> 00:36:27.940 women learn it. Could you speak onto that, on 00:36:27.940 --> 00:36:30.219 this balance between the feminine and masculine 00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:32.780 that is within us and how to create it, even 00:36:32.780 --> 00:36:36.280 start that path? Yeah, I'll speak about Shakti, 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:41.300 because Shakti is power. Shakti is the word for 00:36:41.300 --> 00:36:44.480 feminine in Sanskrit, but it's the word for power. 00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:48.019 And it means the power that brings beauty and 00:36:48.019 --> 00:36:52.780 harmony. Shakti is in all things. Shakti is my 00:36:52.780 --> 00:36:56.139 computer. Shakti is my body. Shakti is everything. 00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:02.760 And it's the moving pulsation of life and how 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.960 to cultivate a relationship with Shakti. That's 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:11.079 where the discipline comes. This force of life 00:37:11.079 --> 00:37:14.800 that moves through all of the cosmos is also 00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:20.340 in me. I am also that. So cultivating every day 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:26.099 It's like a line, a communication line with it 00:37:26.099 --> 00:37:29.480 becomes your safeguard. That's how safety is 00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:34.280 built. This is not all about me. There is a great 00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:39.380 force that is in charge of this. And it is Shakti. 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.639 It is the goddess. It is the tissue that holds 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:49.179 all of us together. And how can I create a relationship 00:37:49.179 --> 00:37:52.400 in an everyday basis with that force that is 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:56.599 bigger than me? Humility. I don't know. Show 00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:00.079 me. God, goddess, universe, source, whatever 00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.940 you want to call it. You're spinning on the planet 00:38:02.940 --> 00:38:05.219 in the middle of the cosmos. You were born out 00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:07.519 of an orgasm and grew in a womb of a woman for 00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:09.539 nine months. There is something bigger than us. 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:14.110 Whatever you want to call that. Every day. finding 00:38:14.110 --> 00:38:16.610 a way to communicate with that and that's where 00:38:16.610 --> 00:38:19.989 the masculine comes in. The discipline, the one 00:38:19.989 --> 00:38:24.090 -pointedness, the focus, nothing else but that. 00:38:24.789 --> 00:38:28.630 And when this relationship starts to being built 00:38:28.630 --> 00:38:32.650 with intimacy, then it creates a container of 00:38:32.650 --> 00:38:36.789 safety. I am not alone. I am connected to something 00:38:36.789 --> 00:38:41.730 much bigger than myself. I am in relationship. 00:38:41.949 --> 00:38:46.949 to this great power of life that makes the bee 00:38:46.949 --> 00:38:51.349 buzz and the flower bloom and me being able to 00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:55.389 write a paper or have this conversation. And 00:38:55.389 --> 00:38:58.110 so it's literally taking yourself out of the 00:38:58.110 --> 00:39:02.050 equation by connecting yourself with the great 00:39:02.050 --> 00:39:05.309 source of something stronger. And yet you have 00:39:05.309 --> 00:39:09.570 to be in charge of that to create the setup and 00:39:09.570 --> 00:39:12.730 the discipline for it. The discipline of surrender 00:39:12.730 --> 00:39:15.510 to something greater than ourself. The discipline 00:39:15.510 --> 00:39:19.690 of pleasure to decide that even if you don't 00:39:19.690 --> 00:39:23.230 want to do this, you will do it. And the question 00:39:23.230 --> 00:39:28.230 here is, what is it that you can do every day 00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:34.349 that makes you feel connected to Shakti? This 00:39:34.349 --> 00:39:37.289 power that brings beauty and harmony. There's 00:39:37.289 --> 00:39:42.760 many things. Dance, singing, riding, walking 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:47.019 in nature, caring for your dog. But when you 00:39:47.019 --> 00:39:53.360 do it, open to the idea that you are connecting 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:58.239 to something that is bigger than yourself. And 00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:01.659 then that creates that discipline, that container 00:40:01.659 --> 00:40:04.789 that builds a good vessel. Because honestly, 00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:07.570 this is where it all lies. A lot of people think 00:40:07.570 --> 00:40:11.710 they need some big retreat or a medicine ceremony 00:40:11.710 --> 00:40:15.969 to suddenly start feeling. But really, without 00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:19.289 a daily commitment to yourself, nothing really 00:40:19.289 --> 00:40:24.469 changes. And it's so simple. And you know, so 00:40:24.469 --> 00:40:27.190 many years we've resisted commitment. Commitment 00:40:27.190 --> 00:40:33.429 issues. Why? Well, offer that up. and say, okay, 00:40:33.449 --> 00:40:36.449 I have commitment issues. I'm going to allow 00:40:36.449 --> 00:40:41.530 it to be invited and work on it and do something 00:40:41.530 --> 00:40:44.150 every day for five minutes. Do the same thing 00:40:44.150 --> 00:40:46.769 every day for five minutes. Then you will build 00:40:46.769 --> 00:40:49.230 power and then you can extend. Don't say I'm 00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:50.469 gonna write a book because you're never gonna 00:40:50.469 --> 00:40:53.269 write the book, but write every day for five 00:40:53.269 --> 00:40:56.110 minutes and then suddenly four months later you 00:40:56.110 --> 00:41:01.409 have a book. Amazing. Don't say, oh. I'm going 00:41:01.409 --> 00:41:03.849 to go to this retreat and I'm going to feel completely 00:41:03.849 --> 00:41:06.409 connected to my body. Yeah, you'll have a glimpse 00:41:06.409 --> 00:41:10.070 of it. Say, oh, I'm just going to hold my heart 00:41:10.070 --> 00:41:14.309 and say to my heart that I'm sorry every day 00:41:14.309 --> 00:41:18.369 for the next 21 days. And then suddenly you're 00:41:18.369 --> 00:41:20.909 going to say, I love you. And there's no more 00:41:20.909 --> 00:41:26.989 sorry because you've been doing the being. It's 00:41:26.989 --> 00:41:29.610 lifetimes of practice, and it's tender. And that's 00:41:29.610 --> 00:41:31.869 why we need community, because we need support 00:41:31.869 --> 00:41:35.110 with it. And in the tradition that I practice, 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:38.530 we take the body of the goddess every day. And 00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:40.889 then ultimately, you and the goddess and the 00:41:40.889 --> 00:41:43.590 universe are one. And it's all love. And it's 00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:46.690 all about love. It's all about love. And then 00:41:46.690 --> 00:41:48.730 in the love that you develop in your heart, then 00:41:48.730 --> 00:41:52.110 you can allow other people the opportunity to 00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:57.260 express their love as well. The veils are lifted 00:41:57.260 --> 00:42:01.559 and we can see, we can see truly who we are and 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.800 each other. Now I've started this podcast episode 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.239 with a question right away because I knew the 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.980 way you speak, everything is just shared through 00:42:11.980 --> 00:42:15.619 your energy. And now as we're coming to the end, 00:42:15.619 --> 00:42:18.679 I would love you to share a little bit more about 00:42:18.679 --> 00:42:23.500 yourself so that people now learn who they've 00:42:23.500 --> 00:42:26.420 been listening to. At times I'm called Ludivine 00:42:26.420 --> 00:42:33.380 Rose and the essence of my life is devotion, 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:41.300 devotion and intimacy. And for the first 10 years 00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:45.619 of the exploration around remembering who I was, 00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.539 it had started with the idea of the orgasm. We 00:42:50.539 --> 00:42:53.130 are born out of an orgasm. Well, actually, I 00:42:53.130 --> 00:42:55.929 was looking to where are we going? But in order 00:42:55.929 --> 00:42:58.230 to look where we're going, I had to remember 00:42:58.230 --> 00:43:01.769 where we came from. And so I had to look into 00:43:01.769 --> 00:43:04.829 the aspect of sexuality. So for 10 years, my 00:43:04.829 --> 00:43:08.909 life was really deeply devoted to sexual liberation 00:43:08.909 --> 00:43:12.530 and understanding body and coming into my body, 00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:14.590 because I wasn't in my body. I was completely 00:43:14.590 --> 00:43:18.210 dissociated for traumas, experiences, fears. 00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:23.570 And slowly, slowly, Through first sexual liberation, 00:43:24.289 --> 00:43:27.650 I became to understand that the body was my home 00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:30.650 and that it was safe to feel pleasure in my body. 00:43:31.650 --> 00:43:37.289 And then I met a spiritual teacher and I became 00:43:37.289 --> 00:43:40.489 a devotee of the goddess and the goddess resides 00:43:40.489 --> 00:43:45.130 in the body. And I thought it had to do all with 00:43:45.130 --> 00:43:48.679 sexuality, but it was actually the erotic. The 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.960 expression of this goddess is the erotic or mood 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.380 is the mood of love. And how actually the mood 00:43:55.380 --> 00:43:57.900 of love and the mood of the erotic is our means 00:43:57.900 --> 00:44:00.559 to connect with the divine. And that actually 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:04.119 you, me and all the world is the expression of 00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:08.260 the divine, of the formless into four. And that 00:44:08.260 --> 00:44:15.360 through the expression of the erotic and sexuality 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:19.280 transformed into sensuality. It can be transformed 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.619 into an openness of the heart, which is love. 00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:25.039 And so I'm a devotee of love. I'm devotee of 00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:29.599 the mother. This brought me into a tantric goddess 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.800 worship lineage. That's called Srividya. Sri 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.980 means auspicious, vidya means wisdom, which I've 00:44:34.980 --> 00:44:37.219 been deeply immersed for the last eight years. 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:39.539 That brought me into classical Indian dance. 00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.380 where the body is shaped in particular forms 00:44:43.380 --> 00:44:49.059 and softened in order to allow the energy that 00:44:49.059 --> 00:44:52.139 is traveling from the earth to be moved into 00:44:52.139 --> 00:44:54.440 the womb to be then expressed through the heart 00:44:54.440 --> 00:44:57.539 and then delighted by the audience. And that 00:44:57.539 --> 00:45:01.679 brought me to Mary Magdalene in parallel and 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.679 following the trails of Mary Magdalene in southern 00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:08.260 France and now I spend a lot of my time at the 00:45:08.260 --> 00:45:10.940 cave where she spent the last 33 years of her 00:45:10.940 --> 00:45:14.980 life. So I guess my path is a path of union, 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:19.820 of yoga, of true yoga and removing the veils 00:45:19.820 --> 00:45:23.239 between me and the world in order to remember 00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.960 the union of love in our heart in a delightful 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:32.389 way. So yeah, I guess that's so much more. But 00:45:32.389 --> 00:45:37.010 very simply, all of this is being reflected in 00:45:37.010 --> 00:45:39.150 what is my relationship with my brothers and 00:45:39.150 --> 00:45:42.050 sisters? What is relationship with my father 00:45:42.050 --> 00:45:45.269 and my mother? What is the relationship with 00:45:45.269 --> 00:45:49.070 my partner? What is the relationship with the 00:45:49.070 --> 00:45:52.829 work that I have? And how can I soften into a 00:45:52.829 --> 00:45:57.389 relationship of love? And as my spiritual teacher 00:45:57.389 --> 00:46:01.710 says, old people tend to be wise. not because 00:46:01.710 --> 00:46:04.989 they're old but because hopefully they've loved 00:46:04.989 --> 00:46:08.789 a lot and if they've loved a lot it means they've 00:46:08.789 --> 00:46:16.110 lost a lot and so it's a path of loss but you 00:46:16.110 --> 00:46:20.150 know not loss in the bad way loss of what we 00:46:20.150 --> 00:46:24.590 think we want or who we think we are or who we 00:46:24.590 --> 00:46:27.650 think we need to be all of these identities are 00:46:27.650 --> 00:46:33.190 being shedded so I can just be Be me. Yeah, I 00:46:33.190 --> 00:46:35.630 have an Instagram that I don't use a lot. It's 00:46:35.630 --> 00:46:40.250 called olden .rose .mystery and you can reach 00:46:40.250 --> 00:46:43.989 out to me there. I have a course on something 00:46:43.989 --> 00:46:49.469 called the Academy of Oracle Arts, where I have 00:46:49.469 --> 00:46:52.349 courses on goddess worship, but also we're starting 00:46:52.349 --> 00:46:55.469 a six months course on Mary Magdalene. That's 00:46:55.469 --> 00:46:57.769 going to be really rich and beautiful. I take 00:46:57.769 --> 00:47:00.750 people on the land in France on pilgrimages. 00:47:01.909 --> 00:47:04.250 So if you or any one of your friends want to 00:47:04.250 --> 00:47:06.710 do that, just write me a message and we can do 00:47:06.710 --> 00:47:11.070 privates. And I also bring people in India. And 00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:13.369 in India, we go study the early tantric temples 00:47:13.369 --> 00:47:17.769 that have the musician, the dancers and the love 00:47:17.769 --> 00:47:21.269 couples on it. So many different universes that 00:47:21.269 --> 00:47:25.019 can be explored. That was Ludivine Rose and to 00:47:25.019 --> 00:47:27.460 explore her offerings as well as our upcoming 00:47:27.460 --> 00:47:30.300 course Feminine Power Blueprint check out this 00:47:30.300 --> 00:47:32.820 episode description. Feminine Power Blueprint 00:47:32.820 --> 00:47:36.340 starts this October 2nd where Ludivine will teach 00:47:36.340 --> 00:47:39.960 erotic innocence and myself and another 10 incredible 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:42.940 teachers will share the wisdom all women deserve 00:47:42.940 --> 00:47:47.260 to have for the most fulfilling lives. Over 3 00:47:47.260 --> 00:47:49.780 months with us you will learn how to work with 00:47:49.780 --> 00:47:52.519 your feminine energy, how to work with your sexual 00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:56.440 energy and become truly magnetic, confident and 00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:59.460 truly alive. You can find more information in 00:47:59.460 --> 00:48:00.639 this episode description.