1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,840 Hello and welcome to the Feminine Power podcast. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:11,000 In today's episode I speak to inspiring, powerful, sexy, full of life Hoda Muhammad Ali, a survivor 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:16,280 of female genital mutilation who had been helping women who had this experience all over 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:22,400 the world to not only heal but thrive through her activism, charity work, trainings and 5 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,800 her herself being the example of a thriving woman. 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,200 She is a human rights activist, children's book author, sexual health nurse and the woman 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:38,520 who endlessly shines her light and is truly connected to her body and pleasure. 8 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Hoda's story gives hope and inspiration to hundreds of millions of women affected by 9 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:51,560 FGM and to all who had a physical trauma and feel as if that true connection won't ever 10 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,800 become available to them. 11 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,520 Her story truly proves otherwise. 12 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Hoda inspires women to embrace every part of themselves, to celebrate their sexuality 13 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:06,520 and to confidently step into a life filled with joy and pleasure. 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:12,960 And in this episode we are unpacking how to turn past pain into a powerful source of energy, 15 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:17,720 how to shed self-doubt and how to truly love the body you're in. 16 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,760 So if you've ever felt that your body or your experiences are barriers to living fully, 17 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,000 it's ready to hear a story that proves otherwise. 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:36,280 For us women, it is possible to have it all and embody our truth and power in all areas 19 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,280 of life. 20 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:44,520 Feminine Bower podcast is your guide to reconnecting with your feminine essence, reclaiming your 21 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,240 power and rising into your fullest potential. 22 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:56,520 I'm your host Maria Grinina, co-founder of Feel, the Feminine Embodiment Platform. 23 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:03,200 And here on this podcast I interview our expert community and our members and we together 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:11,000 share transformative tools, intimate conversations and embodiment practices, bringing you a 25 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,120 wealth of wisdom and practical tools to support your journey. 26 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:21,960 Follow this podcast for your weekly inspiration and if you'd like to go deeper into your 27 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:28,760 embodiment journey and the awakening of your sexual energy, check out our online membership 28 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,640 linked in this podcast description. 29 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:36,920 Welcome to the Feminine Power podcast, Hoda, I'm so excited to have you here. 30 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:40,320 Thank you for having me. 31 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,320 We back again together. 32 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:49,440 I know how important the conversation that I want to share is today and your story, the 33 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,440 luckiest girl in the world. 34 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:58,360 The luckiest girl alive, yes, she's been in my head for a very long time. 35 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,520 I want to hear your story from you. 36 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,120 How did you get where you are? 37 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,160 Where were you born? 38 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,760 How did your life begin? 39 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,160 How did you get to the UK? 40 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,600 And how did you become this luckiest girl alive? 41 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Oh, wow. 42 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,160 We're going to go through it quickly. 43 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,360 I was born in Somalia, which is the north part of Somalia. 44 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,840 It was British colonized. 45 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,360 It's called Somaliland. 46 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Yeah, I was born there. 47 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:33,480 I was born to the most beautiful in my eyes, magical family. 48 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:40,000 My mother had my sister and my four brothers before I was born. 49 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,000 She met my dad, who was from the south, which is Mokdeishon, the south of Somalia, the Italian 50 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 colonized. 51 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,560 And I was born. 52 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,040 I was his firstborn. 53 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,720 My mom is a six-child. 54 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,720 But it was beautiful. 55 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,000 We grew up having a beautiful life. 56 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,360 My dad was in the army. 57 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,120 He was being handed the army on that area. 58 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:13,480 He had a beautiful life where every Friday we'll go to the beach, eat some fish, and 59 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,760 swim, even though I couldn't swim whenever my dad was around. 60 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,680 He would put me around his shoulders and go to the beach. 61 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,720 And yeah, so that is how I grew up. 62 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:33,000 But unfortunately, after that beautiful life, while I was in that beautiful life, I had 63 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,680 something called female genital mutilation. 64 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,760 I'm not sure how many people know this. 65 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,480 But for us, it was something that was normal. 66 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,680 We grew up in Somalia. 67 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:45,680 Every woman had it. 68 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,560 I thought every single woman around the world even talking to you, Maria, I thought without 69 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,560 FGM. 70 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:53,560 So it was normal. 71 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,800 I remember the day before the cutting. 72 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,120 We had a big party. 73 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,240 And we got a big, you know, I had my hair done. 74 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,280 We had henna because we are Muslim countries, so they did henna. 75 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:10,320 I remember that's the first time I got a watch as a gift as well. 76 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,760 But it was normal. 77 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,920 Like I didn't think it was anything that was abnormal. 78 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,520 And yeah, the procedure happened. 79 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,480 And can you share a little bit what is the procedure because, yeah, I believe that many 80 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:31,720 people can understand truly what this is if you're able to. 81 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,720 Yeah. 82 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:39,480 So female genital mutilation or cutting known a lot of parts of the world is a procedure 83 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:46,760 that removes a total removal of the clitoris or partial removal of the clitoris, labia 84 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,680 manora, labia majora. 85 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,360 So there's actually four different types. 86 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,880 So I'll just go through the types first. 87 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,440 Type one is the cut or slit of the clitoris. 88 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,480 They don't have a lot of stitches that involve, but then it depends of the cutting because 89 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,280 now we see in different type ones. 90 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:11,280 But naturally it is a cut, it's slit or a cut of the clitoris, not a stitch involved. 91 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:18,960 Type two is sometimes partial removal of the clitoris, labia manora, labia majora. 92 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:25,120 They pull the skin together and they stitch it halfway, just halfway. 93 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,080 So like five stitches. 94 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,960 That means that woman is partially have in valve is open. 95 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:39,960 Type three is total removal of the clitoris, labia manora, labia majora. 96 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,600 They pull the skin together and they stitch it all the way down and then they leave a 97 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:51,520 little hole that is no bigger than matchstick. 98 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:59,400 They expected the girl to have her urine, pass her urine in that little hole. 99 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:07,840 When she have her period, to have her period that little hole, but when she gets married, 100 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:14,400 her husband have to force himself to open. 101 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,400 I will go back again why FGM happened. 102 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:25,600 Type four is a procedure that again FGM is a procedure for non-medical reasons. 103 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:33,600 So type four we have a different type force in western and practicing community. 104 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Let us make that clear. 105 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:45,800 Type four is stretching, burning or doing anything to the female genitalia for non-medical 106 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,080 reasons. 107 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:54,080 So certain part of the world they stretch the labia from a girl from as soon as that 108 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,080 girl is born. 109 00:07:55,080 --> 00:08:00,000 So let us say 40 days old to five years old. 110 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:08,240 This is the softest part as a human body, which is similar to the valve valve is similar 111 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,800 to the labia. 112 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:18,120 So what they do with type four, they break the tissue between and they stretch it twice 113 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,720 a day in the morning and in the evening. 114 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:27,080 So I want you to imagine being a child who just born and somebody is pinching you and 115 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:33,000 they break in the tissue between the skin and the muscles. 116 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,000 I know. 117 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,960 Also we did not say warning. 118 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,720 We need to put the warning. 119 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:46,120 And what they do is that they will stretch it because they believe having longer labia 120 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,680 is beautiful. 121 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:53,040 So I grow up in Somalia where they cut the labia, but part of the world they have the 122 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,960 longer labia is beautiful. 123 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,440 But wait when they finish stretching, they bend all around it. 124 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:06,040 So they will put a fire into, I don't know. 125 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:11,240 So that is that you can burn and they will burn it all around it. 126 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:17,040 So it's like a decoration that this girl now has passed her labia is that long and it 127 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,040 passed. 128 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,280 But can I tell you most the saddest part for me as well is the Europe. 129 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,200 We have a place called Harley Street in London. 130 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:33,120 Harley Street, everybody goes to Harley Street to have plastic surgery, right? 131 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:38,400 If I want to have my nose done, if I want to have my boobs done, whatever. 132 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:46,120 Harley Street they do what's called labia plusdine, which is called vagina designer. 133 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,040 And who benefit that is a lot. 134 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,920 It is the bono community, the bono graphic community. 135 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,720 I hope I'm pronouncing it right. 136 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:04,000 However, I can go to Harley Street with my English white friend and said I wanted to have 137 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,800 labia plusdine. 138 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:14,280 My white friend can have it done, but they would not let me to have it done. 139 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:15,280 Okay. 140 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,280 Do you know why? 141 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,280 No. 142 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:25,200 Because I am from a country practice female genital mutilation or cutting, they would 143 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:30,720 not do that on me because what they're going to do is the same and they're going to do 144 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400 the same as FGM. 145 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:40,200 Because they say law against it, they will only do it to my white friends. 146 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,040 And I'm sorry, hate using color or anything, but that's the reality. 147 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,720 If you are white English, if you are white European, you can go and have vagina designer. 148 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:55,200 But if I'm a black Somali girl who wanted to have my vagina designed, I would not be 149 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,200 able to. 150 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,240 How did that make sense? 151 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:07,920 Well, I am a big believer that all vaginas are naturally beautiful and completely diverse 152 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,760 and naturally beautiful. 153 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:17,480 So even some people have these different procedures done to them against their will. 154 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:22,000 Some people have different procedures done for certain beliefs and some people just do 155 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,600 it because they watch a lot of porn and they believe that something is wrong with them 156 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,880 and something should look different. 157 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,200 And that's the biggest mistake. 158 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Like, please don't do that because you are beautiful as you are. 159 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,120 And porno is not natural and not real. 160 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,680 And it doesn't show what we are supposed to look like. 161 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:43,400 It is just, yes. 162 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:49,120 I don't fight with anybody what they wanted to do to their body as long as you are adult. 163 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,960 You are allowed to do what you need to do in your life as an adult. 164 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,120 But why are we telling to the future generation? 165 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Because if you have this kind of organization, it's not organization, but this kind of clinics 166 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,720 that exist that said, oh, if you don't like how you look, we can change your look. 167 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,480 We're not empowering children. 168 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,040 We're not telling children. 169 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,320 You are beautiful just the way you are, right? 170 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,920 But because we have clinics, you can come and change that. 171 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:30,360 And sadly, not this year, but two years ago, the highest number of girls that was by the 172 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:39,680 NHS, there were over 15,000 girls that were referred to have labiaplasty through the NHS. 173 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:46,640 And these are children who have went to their doctors, told them they do not like the way 174 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,920 they look, and they sent them. 175 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Why? 176 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,960 Because we have a problem with porn, with children, right? 177 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,600 I work in primary school. 178 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 I work in secondary school. 179 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,880 Children have access to pornographic material. 180 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,960 And what they see, they think that is normal. 181 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:12,600 And what they meet, that little girl, do you know that innocent girlfriend, boyfriend thing? 182 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,920 It's not innocent anymore, because they like, I don't like the way you look. 183 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,920 You're not supposed to have that. 184 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:25,480 That creates a psychological problem for these little girls, because they're not old enough 185 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,320 to decide what is good or bad for their body, right? 186 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:35,520 They go to their GPs, they go back and back and back, and the GPs say, okay, I'll send 187 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 you to Harley Street to have vagina designer. 188 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:44,200 We're going to remove your labia, labia menorab, because you didn't like how we look, and that 189 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,200 is it. 190 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,400 That is not the solution. 191 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:56,840 And by the way, removal of parts of labia may lead to less sensitivity, and that's non-reversible. 192 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,520 It's just non-reversible, and people just don't have enough knowledge about it. 193 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,440 Doctors even don't mention that much. 194 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,400 It's so important that people just love themselves a little more and know themselves a little 195 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,400 more. 196 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,040 Yeah, but sometimes when society doesn't tell you to love yourself as a little girl or a 197 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:19,880 woman who has got problems, like you're depressed or you have some sort of psychological problem, 198 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,320 or you just woke up and said, I don't like the way I look. 199 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,880 And I think that's allowed. 200 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,040 I think we women should be looking at the, I wake up some morning, some like, who is 201 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,040 this? 202 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,040 Do you know? 203 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Of course. 204 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,040 I know it's me. 205 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,240 Let me go and go for a walk. 206 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,720 I don't feel myself today. 207 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,520 Let me go and do some yoga. 208 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:47,080 But in reality, not a lot of these girls and a lot of these women who are watching and 209 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,920 seeing this really do realize. 210 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:57,320 But also I do worry here in the UK, because there's a lot of access to pornographic material 211 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,760 for children who are not supposed to have that. 212 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:08,120 So there's a lot that work needs to be done with parents also, just to empower their kids, 213 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:13,440 to understand and also to figure out when your child is upstairs, they're using your 214 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,440 internet. 215 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,040 They are using the laptop you bought for them. 216 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,680 They are using the phone that you bought for them and they're watching porn upstairs 217 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,320 in the room where you pay the electricity, you pay the gas, you pay the rent, but you 218 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,800 don't know. 219 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:35,160 And also, yeah, so responsibility comes to the adults as well. 220 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,320 But yeah, ask me more questions. 221 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:42,440 No, and what do people just, I want to touch deeper on FGM. 222 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,960 So those of those who had that can find certain answers because find you very inspiring in 223 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,880 the way that you approach your body and your pleasure. 224 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:58,400 What I would like to see is for people who had FGM, what the life is like, what are potential 225 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,120 issues, but also what are the potential solutions? 226 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,000 I can't speak for everybody. 227 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:13,760 There are over 230 million women and girls who are alive today who had FGM. 228 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:19,000 Female genital mutilation or cutting is a worldwide issue. 229 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:23,600 And this year alone, international women stay in March. 230 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:29,200 We had 30 more million women and girls come forward who had FGM. 231 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,280 So it happens everywhere. 232 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,280 Female genital mutilation, people don't know. 233 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,280 It's a child abuse. 234 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,320 It's an abuse. 235 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,320 It is. 236 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,520 It's a filing against women and girls. 237 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,520 It's a filing against women and girls' rights. 238 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:52,880 So people have different excuses of why they do it, but there are money, money different 239 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:53,960 things come with it. 240 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,360 So what I would do quickly, I would tell you, because I can't speak for everybody else, 241 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,760 I can't just speak for myself. 242 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,520 I was cut at the age of seven in Somalia, Somaliland in Harkeisa. 243 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:10,840 The woman who cut me, cut my sister who was 17 years older than me because that woman 244 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:16,480 was the famous woman around that area who was doing this cutting. 245 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,200 Also language is really important. 246 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,840 It's something we're learning. 247 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,280 FGM is a child abuse. 248 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,640 It's an abuse, so we need to take it that way. 249 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,960 People say it's my culture. 250 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:29,960 I'm not going to lie. 251 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,280 I used to say a lot of the time it's my culture. 252 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,080 It's nothing to do with religion. 253 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:39,520 But again, it's the way we grow up and we were conditioned to talk about this. 254 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:45,720 So the reality is, the woman who cut me, cut my sister who was 17 years older than me, 255 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,360 by the time she got to me and my younger sister, she was an old woman. 256 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:50,360 She couldn't even see anything. 257 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:55,240 But she would say, I can do this with my eyes closed. 258 00:17:55,240 --> 00:18:00,040 The day of the cutting, like I said, my younger sister was cut first because they always do 259 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,800 the younger ones. 260 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Then I went through it. 261 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,320 I was seven. 262 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:16,720 At the age of 11, when I was seven, when I turned eight, civil war started in my country. 263 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,120 So we have to run. 264 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,680 I knew nothing about war also. 265 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,880 We run and we left. 266 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,400 My dad is from Moctizio, like I mentioned earlier. 267 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:31,640 So we ended up in Moctizio in the south of Somalia, the Italian colonized. 268 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,760 We went to school. 269 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,200 I started school, middle school. 270 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,160 That was the first time because we got uniform. 271 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,840 I was so excited. 272 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:44,440 Within nine months, the war started again in civil war. 273 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Everything collapsed. 274 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Now when everything collapsed, I got sick and nobody knew why I got sick. 275 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,200 So I would always run to my mom and dad's room and I was like, ah, my stomach hurts 276 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,680 because I didn't know what it was. 277 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,720 Daddy took me to this Italian hospital and they did ultrasound. 278 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,160 They kept me there for like 48 hours. 279 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,960 They did ultrasound again because they thought I had a cyst and they're like, oh, the cyst 280 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:11,960 is growing. 281 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,960 They operate me. 282 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,160 And they realized it was my period that was accumulating inside. 283 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,400 They had nowhere to come out. 284 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,640 Then they said, we're going to keep operating her until her period comes. 285 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,880 So in Moctizio, I had two operations in my stomach. 286 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:33,760 And again, I'm going a bit fast forward, but I talked about this a lot. 287 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,800 So videos and everything is out there of me talking about when the doctors opened me up, 288 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,200 the Italian doctors in Moctizio, they thought I had a cyst. 289 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,840 It's only when they opened me up, they realized because the blood was shooting. 290 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:53,920 They said when they operated me, the ceiling, the doctors, you know, the goggles, everything 291 00:19:53,920 --> 00:20:03,400 they were, it was blood because it was my period that was accumulating inside. 292 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,080 But this time the doctors were looking around and they were like, do we cut our tree? 293 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Did we do something? 294 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,480 And they didn't cut our tree, it just, they didn't expect it to be my period. 295 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,400 So that is how I ended up in hospital. 296 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,400 Yeah. 297 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,400 So I've been operated in Somalia twice. 298 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,800 The civil war got bad. 299 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,800 The hospital got bombed. 300 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:34,920 My dad had to find a real small plane to take me to Djibouti, which is where my mom is from. 301 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,200 And also the same doctors had a hospital there. 302 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:46,080 End up in there, they kept me there for another three years, two years, sorry, having to keep 303 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,240 operation but they still couldn't get my period out. 304 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:54,080 So that's when they said, we have to send, they said to my mom and dad, we need to send 305 00:20:54,080 --> 00:21:00,600 your daughter to Italy because we don't know why she's not having her period. 306 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,320 We got a better equipment there. 307 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,320 So we need to. 308 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,000 So that's how me and my dad arrived in Italy. 309 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,040 I had an operation from the hospital straight away. 310 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:19,000 And as I had that, oh my goodness, sorry, this is supposed to be off. 311 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Sorry. 312 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000 It is off. 313 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240 Can you stay there? 314 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,280 So yeah, so when we arrived in Italy, I went to the hospital, they kept me there. 315 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,280 They operated me. 316 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,280 I was in the hospital for a year because they didn't want to operate with me because by 317 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,840 this time I had four operations abdominally. 318 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,360 And they just wanted to get my period out. 319 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,880 Yeah. 320 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,600 And they operated me one day. 321 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:51,160 I woke up the next seven days later. 322 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,120 After five years of people saying to me, doctor, wait for your next cycle. 323 00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,200 And I want people to know, I never had a cycle. 324 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,320 I don't know what my period, what period is, right? 325 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,640 So one day they said to me, oh, how did you have your period? 326 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,480 I was like, okay. 327 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,480 I looked at my dad. 328 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,000 I was like, does that mean we can leave hospital now? 329 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 He said yes. 330 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,480 But unfortunately, we couldn't go back home. 331 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,200 We became a refugee. 332 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,160 So I ended up in refugee camp in Holland. 333 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,720 My daddy, who I love so much, like I said, I'm a daddy's girl, have to leave because 334 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,280 in Holland, I said to him, I wanted to learn English. 335 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,600 And my sister was here, my oldest sister. 336 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,000 And I was like, I'm coming to the UK to learn English. 337 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,440 So it's like, it's okay. 338 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,440 You can stay here. 339 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,440 Stay with my auntie. 340 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,120 I was living in a refugee camp for them to look after me. 341 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:46,120 Yeah. 342 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,600 Daddy left for Denmark. 343 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,520 I was there for two and a half years. 344 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,120 I went through the system. 345 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,480 I was living in the refugee camps. 346 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,720 And they would send me to, every time I make friends. 347 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,120 And that's another thing. 348 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,600 Maybe we can do another one when it war on refugees. 349 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,920 When it comes to podcasts, because I can't talk about it all here today. 350 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,800 But it was, yeah, I grew up very fast. 351 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,920 I grew up very, very fast to, you know, where I was like, I'm a woman now. 352 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,200 So my sister sponsored me. 353 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:32,800 I arrived in the UK on my 20th as a 20 year old, two months before my 21st birthday. 354 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,120 And I remember I arrived in Italy when I was 16. 355 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,600 So 16 to 20. 356 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,000 I'm traveling through having operations in Italy, in refugee camp in Holland, waiting 357 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,600 all of that, arrived in the UK. 358 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:51,160 I remember, and it was just before Christmas, 1997. 359 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,160 And I was 20. 360 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,160 Yeah. 361 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,160 I'm telling everybody my age. 362 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,160 Went to the homophist. 363 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,160 They took my fingerprints. 364 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,640 They took pictures of me. 365 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,160 And they were like, do you have a family here? 366 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,680 I say, yeah, I have my sister. 367 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,800 They say, go, we're going to get to you. 368 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,880 So I actually got what's called Indifference Leaf to Remain within eight months of going 369 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,400 to Sheffield. 370 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,480 Within before I did that, I said, I'm learning English. 371 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,320 So next door was a college. 372 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:25,520 And it was a college for also a new comments, what they call ESOL, in learning English in 373 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,640 like all the age. 374 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:33,760 My teacher was a Syrian and very broken English. 375 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,360 I couldn't speak Arabic or English, but very broken. 376 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:41,960 I told her who I am and what I'm doing. 377 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,920 And not knowing FGM was wrong, by the way. 378 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,560 I just told her, I'm refugee. 379 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,760 I want to learn English and I want to be a nurse. 380 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,560 And she's like, OK. 381 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Within three months of me joining that college, she's like, harder. 382 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:01,920 There's something going on and it's called NVQ level two in health, but we sponsor you. 383 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,880 So we'll pay you to go and do that. 384 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,960 And I looked at her and I was like, how am I going to do that? 385 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,280 I can't speak English. 386 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,960 I want to be a nurse, but I can't do that. 387 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840 She's like, just do it. 388 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,840 And that is how everything started. 389 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,440 And who did you become? 390 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:25,600 I have become Hoda Muhammad Ali that I always been, but I moved to the UK. 391 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:32,040 I mean, in London, I met my husband, Elvis. 392 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,600 His name is Elvis. 393 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,600 I know. 394 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,240 Well, was Elvis. 395 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:44,480 I met him outside the job center the same day I moved from Sheffield. 396 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,120 And I was outside the job center and I met him. 397 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:54,960 And after that, we decided to get married two years later, even though I couldn't speak 398 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,240 a proper English. 399 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,200 So I met Elvis. 400 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,800 I'm going to tell you the luckiest girl alive as well. 401 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,720 Anybody who can watch the play and go and look it online, you can see it. 402 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,040 So yeah, I met my husband and we got married. 403 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,080 We did a proper kind of wedding. 404 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:17,520 So 2006, we got married, all Somali traditional clothes. 405 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,960 2006, I had seven one year anniversary. 406 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,000 We did the Caribbean style. 407 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:30,320 So I had my white dress and all the Caribbean music and food. 408 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,920 But where is he from? 409 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:33,960 He's born in London. 410 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,440 His parents are from Barbados. 411 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,440 Ah, that's why. 412 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280 So Barbados became my second home. 413 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Beautiful. 414 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Yeah. 415 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Beautiful place. 416 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,160 And again, I want you to come over there. 417 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,160 Oh, yes. 418 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,360 We can do a lot of things on the beach. 419 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,680 And yeah, so we met. 420 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:56,040 And you know, when we got married, going forward is I couldn't get pregnant. 421 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,760 I was just like, we married. 422 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,560 We're not having contraception or anything. 423 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,960 So I went back to the gynec because I had one since I was 11 years old. 424 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,600 And the gynec said to me, oh, maybe you should have IVF because you had Femogenetic Medulation, 425 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,840 all these operations. 426 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:18,600 You know, and you might not get pregnant because additions are discussed that it is left after 427 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,600 operations. 428 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,120 I said, okay. 429 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:26,000 And we went for IVF, got pregnant with the first cycle. 430 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,400 I miscarried the day before my first scan. 431 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,960 And I remember it was working as a nurse. 432 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:41,080 I was taking a blood out of a patient and I just felt everything coming out of me. 433 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Like not everything, but I felt that I had abdominal pain on the daytime. 434 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,920 But I just thought, you know, when I had, I never had any other problems with when it 435 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:50,920 comes to medical. 436 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,920 I always had gynec problem. 437 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Right. 438 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,600 So I'm thinking, oh, my abdominal is hurting. 439 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,560 Maybe it's the period. 440 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,640 Not thinking like I had IVF and I'm pregnant. 441 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,640 Right. 442 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,600 I thought it's normal. 443 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,960 So I passed there. 444 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,040 I'm taking out of blood of this patient and I just couldn't. 445 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560 I literally blacked out. 446 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,960 End up in intensive care unit. 447 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:30,360 I end up in intensive care unit and I was there for like, I think like three weeks. 448 00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:36,360 And I woke up and I had tubes here on my neck. 449 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,680 It's called an central line tube because they can't, I couldn't eat. 450 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,280 So they feed me food here. 451 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,560 But also there was a lot of things that in my stomach. 452 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,720 So they bought me what's called NG tube. 453 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,680 So you can take the pile or whatever is building up in my stomach. 454 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,040 And I remember coming out and it's like tomorrow is another day. 455 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,760 I'm the luckiest girl alive. 456 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,760 Okay. 457 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,240 You lost the baby. 458 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,640 And you need to put weight back on because you're way too skinny because I'm 5'4, 11. 459 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,880 I was like 40 kilos when I came out of there. 460 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,880 Right. 461 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,800 And I was like, okay, you know, I always look positive out of life. 462 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,440 Everything in life is being positive. 463 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,000 And that was, I came home. 464 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,040 I put weight back on. 465 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,040 I was ready. 466 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:37,120 We had five embryos frozen. 467 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,640 The day of the transfer, they took us a different room. 468 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,000 Like, why are you taking us to this room? 469 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,080 But also it's horrible to be a medical professional. 470 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,320 And also I had the procedure already. 471 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,040 I know my husband doesn't know, you know, he's being strong for me, but I'm being strong 472 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,400 for him. 473 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,280 But yeah, they said none of the embryos survived. 474 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,320 So we can't do a transfer on you today. 475 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,600 Means you can't have IVF cycle today. 476 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,800 I was like, why? 477 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,840 What happened? 478 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,840 The doctor came. 479 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,840 They all came in different times. 480 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,160 You know, the embryologists, my professor, all of them. 481 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,800 And I remember the professor, she was amazing because she always been, she followed me from 482 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,080 St. Mary's Hospital all the way to Guy's and St. Thomas Hospital, which is where I was 483 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,040 having the IVF. 484 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,240 And they were like, hold on, we never seen this. 485 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:38,200 I never seen a patient that I did, that none of the embryos survived. 486 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Five of them. 487 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,800 We froze them different times, but none of them survived. 488 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,040 I guess why I said, Maria, I said, tomorrow is another day. 489 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,040 It's okay. 490 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Yeah. 491 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,120 I have another IVF. 492 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,440 And it's like, no, you can't. 493 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,200 Because if we touch you, it can kill you. 494 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,320 So you can never have IVF. 495 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,600 You can never carry your own child. 496 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:15,320 And if you need to do that, you need to get an surrogate, surrogacy and an egg donor. 497 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,280 For a while, I'm not going to lie. 498 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,120 I haven't told this for people. 499 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,960 I thought about it. 500 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,240 Because I thought, my little sister, Ayan, you know the one I was cut the same time? 501 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,840 She's got five beautiful children. 502 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,840 Wow. 503 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,840 Right. 504 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Three boys and two boys and three girls. 505 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,840 Right? 506 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,240 I thought, oh my God, I am going to carry my own child. 507 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,480 I am going to do that. 508 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,440 But I think something happens psychologically because I wasn't thinking straight. 509 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,440 Right? 510 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:50,000 Because I didn't think about how is Ayan going to get married and carry my own child? 511 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,240 That means getting my husband is sperm and dooming it. 512 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,320 And it was just too much. 513 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,960 So at that moment, I, yeah. 514 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,280 And also my husband was the most supportive human being. 515 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,560 He said, we're not going to have a child. 516 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,720 My wife is not going to die a child she don't have yet. 517 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Yeah. 518 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,200 Because what they say to me, if I go through another IVF, it can kill me. 519 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,640 So it was powerful and it was beautiful. 520 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:23,960 So that is the journey that I had with FGM. 521 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,720 If you are resonating with this episode and you are ready to take your embodiment journey 522 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:36,400 to the next level, I invite you to join the field membership, your guide on a journey 523 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:42,120 of reconnecting with and 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description for the link 534 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,040 to join our membership. 535 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:40,280 Fast forward at the age of 37, I was diagnosed with menopause, which is, I think that's going 536 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,720 to be another episode because I really want to talk about that. 537 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,960 But do mention, do mention what? 538 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,560 Menopause is the worst thing that has happened to me. 539 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:59,280 I went through a civil war twice, refugee come in Europe, and IVF, menopause is the 540 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,160 worst thing because all of that, I was very active. 541 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,520 I love working out. 542 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,960 I would go to do yoga. 543 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,880 I would go to the gym. 544 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:16,320 I will be a senes, work 12 hours a shift, not driving, get my backpack, go on the bus. 545 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,920 No, when menopause happened, it just shut me down. 546 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,720 Literally everything, everything. 547 00:34:25,720 --> 00:34:32,760 I don't really want to, I want to talk about it, but it makes me sad because the reason 548 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:39,320 it makes me sad is that here I am talking about FGM, female genital mutilation and cutting, 549 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,120 but then when I was diagnosed with menopause, it happens to women worldwide, regardless. 550 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,040 But I never got the support. 551 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:53,000 Never do I get the, what's the word? 552 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,040 Do you know that education that you need? 553 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,040 Education, yes. 554 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Do you know what I mean? 555 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,720 Because it's the education you need. 556 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:06,760 So it's again for me, it became all over again to learn. 557 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:12,320 It became all over again for me to learn about my body. 558 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,560 Why do I feel tired? 559 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,480 Why am I not sleeping at night? 560 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:23,360 Why am I, why am I arguing with my husband? 561 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,360 You know? 562 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:30,320 Why arguing with everybody because at that moment everybody just made me angry. 563 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,720 Yeah, I'm hearing you in terms of, well, first of all, let's celebrate your courage and your 564 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:43,000 positivity and the empowerment that you share with people through your story. 565 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,360 I know how much you do for the children, for people around, for women. 566 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,200 And you're raising important points on education that's missing, right? 567 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,920 Even with the menopause, what you're saying is you haven't had, you haven't received the 568 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,080 necessary education to go through it with less pain and with more ease. 569 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,440 And it is a big, big problem. 570 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,720 Now women have started to be included in medical research only recently. 571 00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:10,960 They have no idea. 572 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,000 And the amount of medical mistakes people do to women and what's coming out only after 573 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:22,280 a recent years is just crazy and things like menopause, like pleasure, like sexuality, 574 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,960 like menstruation, all of those things did not have enough attention, enough honor and 575 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,040 enough connection. 576 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:37,400 And most women aren't tapping into their true potential as a result of that because we 577 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,040 are not all the right thing and not provided with access. 578 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,640 So we can just honor and acknowledge that. 579 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,520 And while I'm celebrating your courage and staying strong, you know, just staying strong, 580 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,840 and another thing I must mention, what I'm celebrating about you and when I met you first 581 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:59,480 time and learned all about the things that you do in your life is your passion and love 582 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,480 for life. 583 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,000 Because I know what you were like, thanks, you're sharing what you're doing and like 584 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,240 how you celebrate yourself. 585 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:07,320 It's just so beautiful. 586 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:13,600 And I want you to talk about it in the remaining times of what I want to know and I want to 587 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,800 inspire listeners and whatever they've gone through, even if they've gone through FGM, 588 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,360 how they can celebrate their body. 589 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,360 Okay. 590 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,160 First thing that we need to do is about owning your body. 591 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,160 Yes. 592 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:33,680 It took me so long to really understand of, like my body belongs to me. 593 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,920 Which is one of the things I teach children now. 594 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:42,120 I left nursing, safeguarding consultant, I work with children, you know, teaching about 595 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,360 their bodies and also talking about FGM and like nobody have the right to touch you if 596 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,240 you don't want to be touched or do anything. 597 00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,800 So you started that way. 598 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,320 So first of all, it starts owning your body. 599 00:37:55,320 --> 00:38:02,360 Sickly sexuality is not something that is a lot open to where I come from. 600 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:08,040 But I do realize, like I said earlier, sexuality is important. 601 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,320 It's important to know how you feel and what works for you. 602 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:17,320 So for many long time I didn't know, but I realized talking. 603 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,320 Yes. 604 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,320 Let's say that. 605 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,320 Yes. 606 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,560 When you have a new partner or you meet a partner, it's important to talk to them of what works 607 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,480 for you as a woman. 608 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,520 And I say that because it's not just FGM. 609 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:38,320 A lot of women and girls do not know what sexuality is. 610 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,320 You just go and meet a partner and expect it. 611 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,320 Miraculously know everything. 612 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,320 We don't know. 613 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:53,360 But also a lot of the times the man had sexual partners before us because I was told to keep 614 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,360 FGM. 615 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,360 But he was never told to keep FGM, right? 616 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,440 So that means that man have a lot more experience. 617 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,200 I think the most important thing is to own, to learn what works for you, which is what 618 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,120 we were talking about. 619 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:14,200 And just really using your voice even if you're not sexually active. 620 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,520 Even if you're not sexually active. 621 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:23,880 It is so important to talk about your feelings and how you're feeling, what works for you. 622 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,160 And that doesn't mean just partner or man. 623 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,840 You could talk to your girlfriends because it's a star, right? 624 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,760 That is my star. 625 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:42,520 So I have an amazing, amazing friends and one of them is literally, even though I'm 626 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:47,200 older than her, and she calls me sometimes her auntie, I won't say her name. 627 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,700 Maybe I will. 628 00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:53,000 Like literally became my voice. 629 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,760 Like that guru, I need it. 630 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,640 You know that person I need it. 631 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,320 Her name is Dr. Leila Hussain. 632 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,320 She knows. 633 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,280 I will say it. 634 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,280 But it's a lot. 635 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,280 It was a lot because when we met, I wasn't in this world. 636 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,360 I wasn't talking about FGM and stuff. 637 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,600 I was just learning things and things. 638 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,800 But she showed me that what we're happening, you know, everybody have one person to guide 639 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,000 them, right? 640 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080 So Leila was there for me. 641 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,360 But the older I get, I don't even talk to Leila anymore. 642 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,720 I mean, I talked to her, but not that way. 643 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:37,080 So yeah, I decided I own my sexuality. 644 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:43,960 I also thought being married, I met my husband when I was 23 and I was virgin. 645 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,360 I never had sex with anybody, right? 646 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,680 Because that's what we were told. 647 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,720 You have to be virgin and keep yourself and do that. 648 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:53,720 Yeah. 649 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:55,800 And we did. 650 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,480 The first didn't come first. 651 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,560 The first came after. 652 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:08,120 But also I find out about sex toys or sexual pleasure toys, like we call it. 653 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:16,560 And it is one of the most amazing, liberating things for me. 654 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,640 I say that because when we say liberating people think that somebody was holding me 655 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:22,640 back. 656 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,120 No, I was holding myself back because I didn't know. 657 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,000 But it wasn't like any kind of toy. 658 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,000 It wasn't like extreme. 659 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,000 It was just a bullet. 660 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Yeah, the classic. 661 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,480 My amazing friends, I have amazing people around me, got that for me and haven't used 662 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,480 it for a while. 663 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480 But one day I was like, my husband was on holiday. 664 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,400 I was like, I'm going to figure it out. 665 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,400 Lordy. 666 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,240 Lord have mercy. 667 00:41:49,240 --> 00:42:00,680 I had orgasm three times in 10 minutes. 668 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,320 And how beautiful is that? 669 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,760 But also how scary is it? 670 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,760 Do you know what I mean when it's just by yourself? 671 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920 You know the other day when we were talking about your podcast, we talked about female 672 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,160 pleasure and how to pleasure yourself. 673 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:23,320 But it was scary, but one I was like, why have I been missing this? 674 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,560 Why have we been missing this? 675 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:26,560 Exactly. 676 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Right? 677 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,560 Yeah. 678 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,560 Yeah. 679 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,360 And never look back after that. 680 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:39,400 And also, of course, it's important to speak to your partner. 681 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:47,920 I tell you the hardest way that he learned was, I was using it and I fall asleep. 682 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,840 It's a DJ who was doing the music stuff. 683 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,680 This is, oh my God, I'm telling things I never talked about before. 684 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,200 And he came back and he was like, he could just hear. 685 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:04,080 He said, I can hear like vibration under the duvet. 686 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,400 Because, you know, I was, I knocked myself out. 687 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,800 And that was it. 688 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,000 That is how we introduce him to the sex type. 689 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:24,560 So I know that can be really hard with the partners when you don't talk about these things. 690 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,720 But hey, please, please, please, like your first thing with your first partner, when 691 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,320 you talk about sexuality, talk about sexuality and what rocks your world. 692 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,320 Yeah. 693 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,320 Yeah. 694 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,440 And we talk about our world exactly and very often that we're so scared to share something 695 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,440 with our partners. 696 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,240 Very often it's, it can be actually very sexy and they can be very happy to know what pleases 697 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:46,240 you. 698 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:47,240 Oh, I know. 699 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,240 Yeah. 700 00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,240 So it's like, hmm, just, let's just talk about it. 701 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:51,240 I know. 702 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,240 Yeah. 703 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:57,920 It is, I think for us what we talked about is one of the hardest things for sexuality 704 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,240 in and things and also in different reasons of why we don't talk about it. 705 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:04,680 So it's really important. 706 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,320 Regardless that I'm a survivor of FGM or civil war. 707 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,960 I didn't have that childhood, but I'm making it up with the knowledge I have as an adult 708 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,960 now. 709 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:15,960 You know what I mean? 710 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,800 I'm not ashamed to say I learned this this age or I learned this here. 711 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,560 But the reality is that life is not, it's not easy. 712 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:32,240 And also the way things are going for women or young girls is not fair. 713 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:39,760 But I just hope that they can do their little bit research and see people like me and you 714 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:45,280 or, you know, my friends, like other people who are doing an amazing work to know that 715 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,840 they're not alone and they can kick us as long as they go forward. 716 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:57,360 There is one thing I'm deeply passionate about is self love and love body for love for the 717 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,000 body and love for the own body. 718 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,640 And as we were touching upon in the beginning of this podcast, a lot of women, even not 719 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:09,760 those who had FGM, FGM was usually done against the person's will. 720 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,520 But there are women who just actually really don't like their own vulvas and they want 721 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,240 to make amendments to it simply because there is lack of self love and lack of visibility. 722 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:25,960 And one of my favorite practices that we always teach and I mean, I find it so empowering 723 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,440 is to learn to adore your own vulva. 724 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,440 Learn to look at her first. 725 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,840 A lot of women don't even look there. 726 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,160 Learn to look at her, then work through any feelings that arise and then actually to give 727 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,160 it love and to really adore it. 728 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,720 And I know there is this amazing practice of creating a sculpture of your own vulva. 729 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:49,920 And I'm wondering if you want to share a bit about it because isn't it the most empowering 730 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,720 practice that women can do for love? 731 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:55,720 Yeah. 732 00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:56,720 Listen. 733 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:57,720 I, yes. 734 00:45:57,720 --> 00:45:58,720 Yes. 735 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:02,400 Thank you for reminding me again. 736 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,000 First of all, it's important. 737 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,720 Like I said, it's not just FGM or finding these women. 738 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:12,960 I guess women naturally were just told you can't look down there. 739 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,000 The first thing you do, give her a name. 740 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,000 See? 741 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,080 How we saying her name? 742 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,080 My one, her name is Kalanchor. 743 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:26,400 Kalanchor in Somali is the most beautiful name that you can give a woman. 744 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,560 Kalanchor, the most beautiful woman. 745 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:29,560 The most beautiful. 746 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,840 So I give her, so give her a name. 747 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,840 Yeah. 748 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,840 Mine is Venus. 749 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,840 Venus today. 750 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,840 Well, nice to meet you, Venus. 751 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,840 Welcome to Kalanchor. 752 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,400 And that, yes, absolutely. 753 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,120 Like seriously, it's not about the outside world. 754 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,240 It's about, because she's there. 755 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:48,240 She gives life. 756 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,240 You understand? 757 00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:50,240 Yes. 758 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:56,280 Without our vulva, without our vaginas, vulvas and all, nobody would have been on this earth. 759 00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:04,680 So please, please, acknowledge her, pray for her, caress her, give her a name. 760 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,240 Give her a name, because if there's anything to serve name on this earth, is your vulva, 761 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:11,240 my love. 762 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:12,240 Wallahi. 763 00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:13,240 That is the main thing. 764 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,440 By the way, I keep saying wallahi in Islam. 765 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,440 I swear to God. 766 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,440 Okay. 767 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,440 Yeah. 768 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,440 Yeah. 769 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,440 Let me tell you something. 770 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,720 So I've been empowered and I empowered her a lot. 771 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:27,720 Okay. 772 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,560 I want to start with the Q as well. 773 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,080 So you can say Kalanchor. 774 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,920 I don't know how you're going to pronounce it. 775 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:38,200 So I've been approached by an amazing sculpture. 776 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,200 Yeah. 777 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,760 He did a sculpture. 778 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,000 It's called the world of vulvas. 779 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,440 You guys can go and look. 780 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,440 This one is not art. 781 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:53,440 Yeah, he'd never tell anybody who had FGM, FGMC. 782 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,160 And I was like, yeah, why not? 783 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560 So it's going to come out. 784 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,640 And it was crazy for me going there. 785 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,440 Of course, I had a friend with me. 786 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,000 It was a space. 787 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:16,240 It was beautiful, but it was amazing to see my vulva in a plastic scene looking at me. 788 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:17,240 Yeah. 789 00:48:17,240 --> 00:48:19,720 And she's just like, I'm looking at the mirror. 790 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:21,280 She's looking at me like this. 791 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,400 I was like, oh my God. 792 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,160 Is that what you look like? 793 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,120 Nice to meet you, Queen. 794 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,120 Yes. 795 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,120 So it's going to come out. 796 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,120 It hasn't come out yet. 797 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,480 This is the first time I'm also telling anybody. 798 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,120 So guys, be kind to me. 799 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,680 But when it comes out, it'll be everywhere and I'm not ashamed of it. 800 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,960 The only thing is for me is the respect. 801 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:57,240 You know, culturally, my culture, my religion, it's always that respect also. 802 00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:00,280 So yeah, it's all about respect. 803 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,440 But I'm not shy to talk about my sexuality, what works for me. 804 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,080 People think that women who had female genital mutilation do not have orgasm. 805 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,800 They think women who had female genital mutilation, cutting down a joint, they think women who 806 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:21,920 had female genital mutilation, cutting down a joint sex, they think women who had FGMC 807 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,280 are not hot. 808 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:30,440 They think women who had FGMC, we never had a desire to have sex. 809 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,600 I tell you now, that is all a lie. 810 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,600 Yes. 811 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,600 It is all a lie. 812 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,400 Trust me. 813 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,960 That is just what they told you. 814 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:50,560 And I confound you for that because nobody else can speak for my financial background. 815 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:57,280 They try to control my sexuality, but it's a lie to keep a girl out of sex because of 816 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,280 FGM. 817 00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,880 That doesn't work. 818 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,680 They tried and they couldn't. 819 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,560 Because this is power and you own your body and you are the one deciding. 820 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,360 So much courage, so much power. 821 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,400 I'm so, so inspired. 822 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,000 And I feel like it's such an important message because other women who experience this, they 823 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,600 know if they own their body, they can have whatever they like, whatever they wish for. 824 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,600 It rocks your world. 825 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,600 Maybe coffee for the day. 826 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,600 Who knows? 827 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,600 Tea doesn't rock my world. 828 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,600 Coffee dies. 829 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,600 Our body is the same. 830 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Yes. 831 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,600 Love that. 832 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:44,600 I feel so good listening to your story and I'm just so proud, so proud of you. 833 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,600 Thank you so much. 834 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,520 And I think we're coming to an end of today. 835 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:56,400 I just want anybody who's going to listen to your podcast and this one now that hopefully 836 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,760 would be able to reach out, to ask the question they wanted to ask, to ask the question to 837 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,640 anybody they ever wanted to ask questions, to be able to ask them, but also to empower 838 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,720 themselves and know that you're not alone. 839 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:17,720 We all go through a lot of hardships and a lot of things and it's not easy, but just 840 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:26,280 remember you're not alone, but use your voice and go and kick ass. 841 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,800 That was Hoda Muhammad Ali on the Feminine Power podcast and you can access Hoda's website 842 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,320 in this episode description for further connections. 843 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,200 If this episode touched you and if you have any feedback or comments, please leave them 844 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:45,720 right here under the comments of this episode on any platform where you are listening to 845 00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:47,840 the Feminine Power podcast. 846 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:54,840 And if you resonate with our mission to share inspiring stories and to help more women to 847 00:51:54,840 --> 00:52:00,760 truly elevate their lives by connecting to their bodies, please leave this podcast a 848 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,760 rating. 849 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:08,040 It 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00:53:54,440 I'm your host, Maria Grinina.