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Hello and welcome to Smooth Cooperators, a Belfast Community Co-op program.

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I'm Emily.

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I'm Alessandra.

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And we are here to talk to you about the Cooperative Business Model, the Belfast Community Co-op

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in particular.

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Today we are going to continue our series on Cooperative Principles with Cooperative

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Principle number four, autonomy and independence.

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But first we're going to do a little check in and see how our summer is going, particularly

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what have you been eating lately?

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Oh, the food at the co-op has been delicious.

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The deli has been able to get their hands on a lot of fresh produce recently.

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And so their cucumber and onion salad, this vinaigrette dressing, is just so good.

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Just really hitting the spot lately.

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And I think the recipe just kept secret.

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So I just have to go in there to get my fix.

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But it's like fresh cucumbers that are sliced up and fresh red onions that are sliced up.

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And then it has this vinegar oil dressing on it that when I'm finished eating the salad,

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I just kind of drink it down because it's so delicious.

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What are you eating, Emily?

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I basically live for cherry season.

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I think they might be my favorite things in the world.

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I say that about a lot of stuff.

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So just add it to the list.

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I love cherries.

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And the cherries right now have been particularly delightful.

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The other thing that I really love are white nectarines.

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They don't come around very often.

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I definitely romanticize them for the rest of the year.

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But right now I've been putting them on my breakfast cereal.

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It makes my day awesome.

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I was just orienting a new person this morning who's going to be a cashier.

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And I was telling them about the Farm Fresh Rewards program.

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If you shop at the co-op and you use Snap, the EBT food stamp program, and you tell

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the cashier that you're paying with EBT, they will scan a coupon.

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And it gives you 50% off the fresh fruits and vegetables that you're buying.

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And he was like, 50%?

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That's wild.

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And I was like, yeah, it's super it.

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But it's like, when you think about buying cherries, you're like, oh, maybe it's too

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expensive or I can't buy so many.

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And it's like, if you have food stamps, you can go buy cherries and get 50% off them.

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And I just think that's super cool.

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That's awesome.

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It's such a good program.

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Big shout out to Maine Farmland Trust who started it and Good Shepherd Food Bank who

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took it over and is partnering with them.

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It helps so many of our community members.

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And we're really happy to be able to participate in that.

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Come into the store and check it out.

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Okay, cooperative principles.

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So just to give you a quick reminder, we're on cooperative principle four.

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Cooperative principle one is open and voluntary membership.

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Number two is democratic member control.

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Number three is member economic participation.

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And number four, autonomy and independence.

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The International Cooperative Alliance defines autonomy and independence.

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Cooperatives are autonomous self-help organizations controlled by their members.

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If they enter into agreements with other organizations, including governments or raise

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capital from external sources, they do so on terms that ensure democratic control by

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their members and maintain their cooperative autonomy.

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So what does that mean?

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When I think about it, I think about how sometimes co-ops look the same or feel the same or smell

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the same, but that for the most part, all the food co-ops that you've ever shopped in,

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they're all separate organizations.

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So we all work together.

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We all align ourselves with these cooperative principles and values, but we're all designed

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and governed to serve the communities that we're in.

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It's kind of how I was thinking about it before we started to research for this episode.

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And now I kind of think about it as the whole reason that you're a cooperative and that

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you stay autonomous is so that you're not bought out by a huge corporation.

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That is really what I think that that principle was there for, to be like, look, you're not

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going to look for this best deal for your shareholders.

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You're not going to try to make money at all costs.

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You're not going to be a part of the extractive capitalist economy.

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You are going to be a business that is governed by your community, that serves your community,

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and that your community in the end is the biggest benefit factor.

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And that's like pretty radical in this day and age where we have companies, corporations

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and CEOs who are literally vacuuming money out of our local economies to national, international

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banks.

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That money doesn't come back.

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We work really hard for it.

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It's taken out of our local economy and we don't get to get it back.

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And I think with the co-op, obviously some of our money leaves the county and leaves

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the state because we're buying product, you know, we buy apples from New Zealand.

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There's that exchange, but for the most part because our management and our workers and

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our distributors are relatively local, that money is staying in our economy.

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So that's kind of a little bit more about how I'm thinking about it.

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Well, and it makes sense too because you have a business that's being started by the people

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who live near it and they're starting it because they have a certain set of needs that they

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would like to meet.

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This principle ensures that it stays in their control, that decisions aren't going to be

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made, that jeopardize the autonomy of the business, that somebody can't come in and sweep that

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up like all those other little grocery stores we've seen throughout the years.

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It's so interesting to me that the co-ops that are commonly thought of and commonly

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founded in our country are food co-ops because when we think about all the things that we

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need to survive like as humans, we need shelter, we need water, and we need food.

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And so many things like public transportation and drinking water and roads and even our

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first responders, those services are governed by organizations or by the public because

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they're so important, but our food isn't.

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When we know that, when the food is kept away from us or when the food is not healthy, that's

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when people really turn to the cooperative model to say, hey, we need a little bit more

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say here.

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This food is really important to us.

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We need to figure out how our community can be served.

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So it's like when you take care of a water system, you're not taking care of your water

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system for the company that's on the other side of the country.

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You're taking care of it for the people who are in your community who are drinking it.

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And I think that in that way, the board of directors and the management, they're like

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stewards of the food economy in this community to keep this food that we all need to eat

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available and safe.

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It was really interesting to go down this research rabbit hole.

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There's a guy, his name is John Steinman.

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He came and did a talk with the co-op, maybe last year or whatever.

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He wrote a book called Grocery Story.

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He drove around the country in this van visiting food co-ops, all of them autonomous and independent.

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But notice a lot of similarities.

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And I think out of those travels, he decided to develop this app that's called Food Co-op

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Finder.

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So that way you can go traveling or whatever and you're like, oh, I need to buy some food.

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You can go buy your food from a food co-op and support that local organization of where

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you're traveling to.

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And he thinks that there are probably 325 individual food co-ops in North America that

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are established and over 100 that are in more of the startup category.

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So basically they have owners, they have a board of directors, but they don't have a

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story yet.

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I just read an excerpt from his book and I got chills.

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I was super inspired by just reading a little bit about the story of food and about how

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taking that autonomy back and supporting your local food co-op and your local economy is

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kind of groundbreaking.

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It seems life-changing for him.

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And he talked a lot about who owns your grocery store.

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So he has a website which we'll put in the description for the program that's grocerystore.coop

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which is co-op backslash who-owns-your-grocery-store.

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And you can just go and see your local big box grocery store has a name, but it's owned

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by a different company that has a different name.

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The chances are super high.

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And the chances are even higher that that company's headquarters are out of this country.

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Definitely.

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And so it's like people who are not living in this country, they don't have any skin

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in the game for making sure that we all have consistent, fresh, healthy food.

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You all should read this article.

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It is totally inspiring.

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We'll put the rest, we'll put the article in there too.

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Absolutely.

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It's like really disempowering to me to think about those big corporations owning food that

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like I need for myself and my loved ones to survive.

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And so maybe part of why the co-op is so inspiring and motivating to some people and why they

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like choose it as I say as a lifestyle, like the co-op isn't just a job, it's your lifestyle,

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is because there's empowerment there and there's like accountability to feeding your

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community to supporting the producers and the farmers and like getting to know your

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distributor truck driver who like they're superheroes.

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The stuff that they can do with huge trucks is amazing to me.

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Boggles the mind.

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Every time they get into our parking lot we are astounded and we say, that's a job I

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could never do.

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I hope they get paid a lot of money.

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And it makes me want to like clap for them.

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And I'm like, I know this is just their job.

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They do it second nature.

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It means a lot to us though.

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It does.

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It's super cool.

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Yes.

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It's also fun being autonomous and independent means that we can go out and meet our local

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farmers and our local producers.

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We don't have to go through any specified distributor, although we do obviously have agreements

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with specific distributors.

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But if you are shopping at the co-op, you are bound to run into somebody who is delivering

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some sort of produce.

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Those people, they live in our community.

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They are bringing the food that they grow directly to our store.

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Because of being a cooperative, we are able to do that.

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And we then develop those relationships.

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And there's so much more than just the transaction of like, we buy your produce.

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It turns into help us design our flower boxes or you know, something happened to your land.

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We're going to raise money for you.

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We're going to help support cleaning up PFAS or when people have had their barns burned

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down or something bad happened to their animals.

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We know that the way that we're eating is because these people are producing food for

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us so we're going to help them.

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It's a relationship.

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So the other part about being autonomous and independent that I just wanted to highlight

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is the fact that our board of directors has a role in keeping us autonomous and independent.

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One of the ways that we have made that possible is by using policy governance.

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And I know that we've talked about policy governance in the past, but we're just so

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pleased to have it that we want to talk about it all the time.

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Because our board of directors is not necessarily trained to run a grocery store, what they

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do is they hire a general manager or a general management team.

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In this case, we just have the one general manager at the moment.

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Shout out to Doug Johnson, who's awesome.

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Oh my gosh, so right.

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So our management team runs the store, but they are held to the policies that the board

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sets.

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So the board is not actually running the store per se, but they make sure that the management

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team is doing what they're supposed to be doing.

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And that allows us to stay autonomous and independent and fiscally sound.

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After I tell somebody, oh, congratulations, you're an owner or whatever.

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Now you have rights and responsibilities.

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It sounds kind of, you're like, oh, wait, what did I sign up for?

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And it's like, no, it's cool.

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But a huge responsibility is voting for the board of directors because those are the people

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who are setting those policies that are guiding the general manager.

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And also the board of directors, they're like the people that look into the future and say,

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why do we exist?

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What's this for?

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And they answer that question.

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And they recalibrate our cooperative compass to walk in the direction that we think that

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the organization should be headed towards community, which is towards connection, which

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is towards sustainability, both of the environment and also of the business.

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So that is such an so crucial for the owners to vote for those people.

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Sometimes elections are so big that you feel like your vote doesn't count.

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Those elections are small enough and have a super big impact.

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The fact that the co-op has been an anchor of downtown since 1976, I guess maybe it wasn't

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an anchor then, but it certainly was a draw to town.

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I think that that has formed what Belfast as a city is today.

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And that means that our decisions that we make at the board level do have an impact

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on our whole community.

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Hey, I'm going to make a really big transition for a second.

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Okey dokey.

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Just say that the board is starting to look for candidates to run, even though the elections

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in March, they will be looking for candidates now.

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So if all of this sounds exciting to you, you should reach out to the board.

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It's the board at Belfast.coop.

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Check out the board page on our website.

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It's a really great opportunity, and you could be the future.

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I was on the board for six years.

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They were like six very transformative years.

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I was a young person who kind of came on with a lot of energy thinking I knew what I knew

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and realizing I didn't and being willing to like push myself and learn new things and

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get educated and understand like what governance was and why we were there.

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I was like, oh, I'm not here to be Alessandra on this board.

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I'm not here to make Alessandra's choices.

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I'm here to think about the co-op as a whole and to think about the co-op as this child

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that I'm raising but also my elder who has wisdom all wrapped up into like what's going

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to be the best for the business, what's going to be the best for the community and make

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decisions based on that mode of thinking, which was really expansive, really challenging

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at times, but also really exciting.

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Yeah.

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You get to hang out with cool people.

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You get to hang out with Emily.

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It's really just the best.

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Thanks for taking that road trip with us.

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We know how much we love to talk about the board.

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Is there anything else we wanted to talk about, principle for autonomy and independence?

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Obviously, there's so much more to all of these principles than that.

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I urge you, if you're interested, to go take a journey into the International Cooperative

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Alliance website, understand why these principles were made, why they're important, and what

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other co-ops do to kind of uphold these things and their day-to-day operations.

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So if you have any questions, please reach out and ask us.

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We would love to hear what you're thinking.

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There's a few other things we wanted to talk about today.

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The next thing is there's been a lot of chatter out there about the renovation and the fact

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that we did not get a bid on our general contractor.

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There's a story behind that, and Alessandro said she was willing to share that.

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Yeah.

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So I was at the register the other day and somebody was like, oh, I have a construction

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friend and they told me you didn't take a bid on the project.

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Is that true?

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And I was like, oh, okay, I have a minute to talk to you about this because when we

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started out discovering what the depth and breadth of this project could be seven years

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ago, we were not looking for this get-rich-quick scheme.

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We needed partners.

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We needed people who were going to be committed to this, and we needed people who were going

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to be willing to ask the hard questions and go deep for us and find answers because it

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was unconventional.

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But also for the people that we found to work with us, it was going to be an opportunity

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because our architects, Woodhull, they had designed a couple of retail spaces, mostly

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in southern Maine.

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They are excited to design retail spaces for other places in Maine, and we were really

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dependable partners to work with, really excited partners to work with, and so that was a really

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beneficial project for them.

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And so if we found people that we felt really secure in working with, we weren't going to

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find the cheapest person.

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We needed to find the dependable person and still have it be reasonable.

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We're not going to run our bank accounts dry.

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Building trust in a huge project like this was super important.

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So same thing with the general contractor.

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We have had hours and hours and hours of discussions with them to find out what's possible, to

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be like, hey, we're not professional builders.

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You are professional builders.

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Please tell us what's going to happen.

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Tell us how we're going to keep selling groceries while we go through this renovation project.

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We also looked to other co-ops in the area and we said, hey, Portland food co-op, who

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did you work with when you needed to redesign and retrofit this store?

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Warrant construction came super highly recommended.

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We started to build again that relationship and that trust, and we weren't about to break

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that, especially because they were so reasonable.

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They were so supportive.

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So now as we've gotten into the actual building project, they do bid out all those projects.

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We do find local contractor who is available and who has the best price.

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Like that is absolutely what we are doing.

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We're working with local people who are our neighbors, who live streets over or who are

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traveling from a little bit outside of Augusta.

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We are finding trustworthy people to do the best work for the best price.

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We're absolutely bidding out concrete, electrical, plumbing, all of those subcontracting jobs.

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We also have a position known as an owner representative.

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Can you tell us about that?

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Yeah, sure.

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We have a couple local guys who are there to make sure, so they're owners of the co-op,

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and they're there to make sure that everything is going well.

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And they're there to make sure that people stay informed and that Doug can keep running

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the store, the general manager can keep running the store, and also know everything that's

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happening on the job site.

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They're there to reach out to local people because they've been working in construction

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in this area for a long time.

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So they know the people who are available.

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They know the connections.

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They know who's going to show up beyond time and follow through on the work that they do,

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which is really what we need.

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We need to have a store that looks great.

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Sure.

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But that's also like, we need a store that works.

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Absolutely.

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So where are we on the renovation at the moment?

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The renovation at the moment is going well.

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Our excavators have gone, which is really sad because I really liked them.

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Pendleton Street is open again, though, and that's pretty nice.

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It is nice.

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The flow of the parking lot is going to be sort of here and there.

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Let's be honest, it was like never great, and we're doing the work that we can to make

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it better.

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There's a lot of work being done in the basement.

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We are framing out and building walls for a meat preparation area, so it'll be a refrigerated

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prep area so that we can get large cuts of meat and cut them up.

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That's going to save us money.

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We're also having a refrigerated prepared foods preparation area.

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So again, if you can be in a refrigerated space preparing food, that food's going to

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have a longer shelf life.

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It's going to be safer to eat, so that is also being built downstairs.

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We had some moisture issues with one of our coolers.

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Thankfully, the guy who's the superintendent on our job site is really resourceful and

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makes changes, and things happen really quickly.

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They were able to clean the underside of one of our walk-ins and insulate it and build

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a false floor while the glue dries and really work with our team so that we can sell a product

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on the shelves, be improving the store so that in the years to come, we don't have moisture

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issues.

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Some of you may have noticed that we had a large tree on the southern corner of our

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building near the parking lot.

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It was lovingly planted by Mike Hurley back in the day.

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Unfortunately, we had an arborist come by and test it, and there was enough rot in it to

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make it potentially dangerous, especially because our plans are to have a cafe seating

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area underneath those branches.

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Unfortunately, that tree did have to come down.

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We have donated the wood to the Waldo County woodshed, which provides heating assistance

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to those in need in Waldo County.

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There actually are common sense recipients in the month of September.

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So, as you round up your sense at the register, it'll go to keep people's homes warm.

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So thank you for that.

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Any trees that we do take down, we will be planting a replacement.

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Probably not in the exact same place, but we will be replacing those trees that come

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down because we care.

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Yeah, in the accepted civil plans that we had to submit to the city.

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On those plans, you have to have all the plantings in there.

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So they're already anticipating replanting trees in and around the store, and we do hope

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to work with our fellow co-op Fedco in planting native plants, plants for pollinators, and

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also edible plants.

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In other new and exciting news, September is our ownership month.

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The last two years, we have done ownership drives, and they've been really successful,

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and we've been very happy to do those.

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This year, we are going to shift our focus, keeping it on ownership, but we're going

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to talk about equity, and we're going to talk about how much equity you have, how much equity

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you owe, why it would be good to invest in the co-op, and we'll be having outreach, tabling

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sessions weekly throughout the month of September.

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So come talk to us.

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We love talking to co-op members and even just people of the community.

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We are chatty.

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The other really fun thing that's happening in September is our birthday.

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It's the anniversary of the day that the stores doors opened.

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It's September 17th.

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Every year, we stand outside, or I guess pre-pandemic, we were inside, and we give out birthday cake.

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This year, we'll be trying to provide apple cake because apples in September and our logo

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and also because they're delicious.

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So come grab a piece on September 17th.

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The other things that are going to be happening this month, we've got a board meeting on September

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27th.

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That is the fourth Wednesday of the month.

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Those start at 6 p.m.

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You can join via Zoom or you can come in person.

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Those are happening in the Abbott Room of the Belfast Free Library.

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You always welcome owners and there is a public comment section where you can make your voice

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heard.

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Then one last thing, we will do a quarterly inventory on the last day of September.

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Mark your calendars.

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September 30th, the store will be closing early at 5 p.m. so that we can complete our

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quarterly inventory.

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Any last thoughts?

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Yep, but I don't remember them anymore.

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Common ground fair.

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Oh, nice.

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I forgot about that, but that's a big one.

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Go out.

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Common ground fair.

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Also, if you shop on Fridays, we're going to have fair shirt Fridays again this year.

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So every Friday, if you have your common ground fair shirt and you're a worker or you're a

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shopper, you can come and hang out and be cool.

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What I was going to say during my awkwardly long pause is if you would like to know about

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all of these things and more, you can go to our website, Belfast.coop and scroll down

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to the bottom.

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There's a really handy place where you can sign up for the e-newsletter.

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Every two weeks, you hear from us about what's on sale, what's the coolest thing that's happening

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in the store right now, who the common sense recipients are, our whole calendar of events.

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We want to hear from you.

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This is a really great way for you to hear from us.

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I did want to remind people that our wonderful general manager, Doug Johnson, makes a short

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video every week about our renovation and is up on the Belfast Community Co-op YouTube

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page.

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So go ahead and check that out.

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They're very short and informative and pretty fun.

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We'll link that too in the description.

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We'll just have a whole slew of links.

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I'll just link the e-news sign up in there.

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And the grocery store and then...

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Yeah, resources.

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That's a better way to put it.

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Yeah.

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Okay, guys.

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If you have any questions, always reach out to us.

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We love hearing from you.

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Again, shout out to Vic, who runs the Belfast Community Radio and edits our program for

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us.

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We couldn't do this without you, Vic.

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Thank you so much.

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We literally could not.

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Ever.

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Yay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Bye, Cooperation Nation.

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You have been listening to episode number five of Smooth Co-operators, hosted by Alessandra

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Martinelli and Emily Berry, produced at the Facilities of Belfast Community Radio.

