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Welcome to Bite Size Dental Marketing. Today,

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I have the lovely Ian. Ian, you look great. No,

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we're live. You look great. Your hair looks wonderful.

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How's South Africa? It's getting cold here, but

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as I'm watching all the South Africans on the

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screen, they're starting to shed the layers and

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get their jacket off. Our nation goes from doing

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not a lot of work to begin with and then to doing

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less work. I need to tell you how comforting

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that is as a business owner who employs about

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20 South Africans. It's incredibly comforting.

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And every time I hear it, even though I'm like,

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is it 20 % of a joke? Is it 70 % joke? No. Rest

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assured, Eric, you have your flock. You know

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your fluff. Yes, I do. Here lies my problem.

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What do you want to talk about today on this

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Dezimba? It's got a Z. Dezimba. It's got a Z.

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It's got a Z. So what I want to talk about today,

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Eric, ties back to a book that we have been doing

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as our book club that we've been having at the

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agency. Talking about story brand. The story

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brand. Building a story brand. And this has been

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one of my favorite books. And if... Is there

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anybody out there that is just trying to understand?

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I encourage dentists too, but other marketers

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too. If you're just trying to understand some

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of the secret sauce of actually understanding

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customers, consumers, dental patients in this

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point, how they think, and how you should position

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yourself in marketing, this is a great book to

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look at. It's a good one. It even changed my

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perception. I mean, I've been in marketing for

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four and a half, nearly five years now. And reading

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this has even opened my eyes to, well, I haven't

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actually thought about it that way. And today

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I want to dive into that a little bit with you

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on how dentists and dental practices should be

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thinking about their practice and business and

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the message that they are putting out. Before

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we jump in, I have a question. What do you think

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most offices do today? Because I mean, they're

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not thinking about... this book right they're

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not thinking through the journey but are they

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because i would say they're focused on either

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the services they provide or the technology correct

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correct they're telling you how great they are

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which sounds like everyone's doing it so it sounds

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like you should too exactly but it's not that

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we we need to change the way that we're thinking

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because i admit fault here too i was in that

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for very long and now understanding if bring

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marketing back to psychology and what we should

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be doing. It's so obvious, which we'll get into

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in a second. But to answer your question, yes,

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the technology side, a lot of we've been in business

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for this many years or we have the largest. There's

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many smiles. We've seen this many people. We

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have even the continued education. I understand

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that is important. And to dentists, I know you

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need that to become a better dentist. I've never

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seen a patient or heard of a patient that went,

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I was so happy that my dentist had done this

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many continued education courses and therefore

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I chose them. It's good to have under your belt.

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When I'm past the initial barrier of deciding

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if I want you to be my dentist. So all of these

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things are great. I don't want people to confuse

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that with what I'm saying here. To have all of

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those things is still social proof of who you

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are as a business. But when I'm scrolling my

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phone or I'm on my desktop and I'm going through

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trying to decide to which dentist I go to, my

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brain is working a little bit different to how

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I think most people are doing it. And that is

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actually tapping into what are the problems that

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you are solving for this patient and how are

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you differentiating yourself. in helping a patient

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get from point A to point B. It is as simple

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as that. It doesn't sound simple. Okay, we can

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break it down. So how do we think as human beings?

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What do we think with? I mean, we think very

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survival -based, typically, especially when something

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is new. And that means fear, desire. I mean,

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and that goes into a ton of other things. Wanting

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to fit in, having enough money, consumption of

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food, social presence, all of those type of things

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tap into... the hierarchy of what matters to

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us as human beings. And what I've seen again

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and again is when patients actually decide who

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they want to go to, we either think with our

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wallet based on the calls that we have listened

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to where people say, do you take my insurance?

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Do you take my insurance? What plans do you have?

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What options do you have? Or the desire of wanting

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to achieve something. I have a wedding coming

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up. I have a missing tooth or missing teeth and

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I want to eat a steak again. And if you're just

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telling me, We've been in business for 40 years.

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The need that I have that I want you to solve

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is not part of that value proposition that you're

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actually putting forward to me. I do care you've

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been in business, but I care more about me first.

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Exactly. And what this book tells us is, and

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many brands do this, you're sending so many different

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messages at once of who you are that it becomes

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overwhelming. to the patient. It's good that

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you have tons of services. It's good that you

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believe in holistic dentistry and you believe

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in no anxiety dentistry and you believe in...

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Yes, go ahead, Eric. No, I think it's great that

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you have the latest DeTero scanner, but I don't

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care. I think I might care at some point when

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you... Once we decided on a treatment... Now,

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keep in mind, I'm now in your chair. So I'm already

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past the journey. But now I care because I see

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your confidence and competency in your craft.

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And now I see how you're applying newest technology.

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But yeah, I mean, just because you do crowns

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and you have the newest seric and ateroscanner,

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that does nothing for a prospective patient.

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Exactly. Especially if that message is coming

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through with a bunch of other stuff on your homepage.

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Yeah, it's messy. We also have in -house plans.

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We have all of these services. We also have these

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funding options. We also have this special going

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on right now. dentistry from the heart and it's

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for family dentistry but we also do dental implants

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and and we see kids but not too many kids and

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we love to do ortho but not all the ortho yeah

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no it gets really messy like in in our desire

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to push the the paradox is you know not to sum

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things up too early in the episode we're pushing

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so much information that we're putting a cognitive

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load on the consumer to decide if this fits them

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or not. Exactly. And that's tough. And it's about

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figuring out you as a dentist, what is the message

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that I want to put out there? What is one of

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the most important things that I want to communicate

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to a new patient coming to my practice? And what

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I'd seen with... With some of our clients, Dr.

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Kaboudi out in Beverly Hills did this perfectly.

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He said, Ian, I want to be the dentist that people

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understand they don't have to have dental anxiety

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when they come in. Everything is geared on my

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website and on the homepage and how we position

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ourselves as, we'll take care of you. You don't

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have to worry about dental anxiety. We've been

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doing this for many, many patients. Here's a

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bunch of testimonials in understanding. This

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is why we do the type of dentistry we do and

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why we have a passion for helping people that

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have dental anxiety. The message is super, super

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clear. But on the other side of the coin, you

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see some of the offices that are, they also want

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to push that, but then they also want to promote

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all of these type of treatments. And they also

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want to make sure that the in -house plan is

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happening. They also want to make sure. And again,

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those things are great once you have a patient

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through the door, but initially we need to think

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about it differently. So step one, Make sure

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that the messaging you want to put out there

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is clear and that it's focused on one, maybe

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two goals that you would like to position yourself

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in within the public sphere. The second point

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that I get into here is then you need to have

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a clear mission statement or clear verbiage or

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clear communication on how you are addressing

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the problems that people are having. within that

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category that you selected so for instance don't

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tell me that dental implants and replacing missing

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teeth and all of that like we do that we've been

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doing it for so long we have the best placement

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and all of that how about hey eric would you

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like to eat a steak again you said serving my

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need right would you like to smile again you

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know would you would you like to be proud of

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your smile i think that's such a great line you

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likely have some amount of shame around not smiling

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or you know covering your smile things like that

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and yeah it's it's a more powerful message when

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you break it down then you know we do crowns

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hello and make making it about the patient that's

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another thing that the book really gets into

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is what we usually do and the examples we've

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used are we try and make ourselves the hero so

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the business is trying to say how amazing they

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are and i mean if you look at video games if

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you look at the movie we like the the main character

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or the game, the person you're playing, because

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you are the hero in that story. You are living

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through the eyes of that hero. And that's why

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we love to watch the stories and to play. We

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project ourselves onto these people and onto

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these characters. Do you like to be the hero

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when you're saving an office? In my own story.

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And what businesses tend to do or dental practices

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in this case is they try and make them the hero

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of the story instead of thinking about... What

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do I need to do to position this patient as the

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hero so that they feel empowered when they come

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to this practice? And that, again, is something

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that needs to flow in the verbiage that you have

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from your website to your social media to the

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way that you're interacting with new patients

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when consultations come. How do you start? How

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do you go from, that's great, Ian, but, you know,

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two companies ago built my website. Someone's

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posting. social media for me. How do you go from

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where most practices are today to honing in this

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very well crafted message? So to answer your

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first question, where I would start is looking

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at what I currently have and seeing how often

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am I just talking about my own business and how

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often am I actually speaking to the needs and

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the solutions of what my patients will require

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and making them the hero in the story. So, and

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I mean, we did this exercise as an agency, going

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through a website and seeing, okay, here we're

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talking about the practice. Here we're talking

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about the practice. Here we're talking about

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the practice. Okay, this entire page is just

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saying things about, this is why you should come

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to us. This is why you should trust us. This

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is why we have the best technology. This is why

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we have this. And then figuring out, well, how

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can I make this more about my patients? So at

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a bare minimum, I would start with the website

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because I think that's kind of your home base.

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of what the rest of your marketing material will

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reflect or bleed into. So it's not an easy task.

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So that's what I'm saying. At the bare minimum,

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just look and try and figure out, hey, okay,

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so Ian said that I need to stop just talking

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about the practice and look at how are we actually

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addressing the needs, the fears, the desires,

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the real solutions that patients want. It will

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stand out to you very quickly. It sounds like

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a difficult exercise, but once you know this

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detail and this way of thinking, Any business

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you look at now, you can immediately judge and

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gauge whether or not they wrote that with the

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customer in mind or the patient in mind, or if

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they wrote it because they're just talking about

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themselves. Who's out there doing it right in

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our space? Like when you look at their site,

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who's got it honed in? So Cook Street Village

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Dental, Dr. David Thode, he actually recently

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welcomed his first child to the world. Congratulations,

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doctor. He's the kind of dentist that I feel

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from the start. He had his message thrown in

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and when he had joined us, he's like, this is

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how I want to be seen. And this is what's important

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to me. And when I think of the brand he has,

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he always said that the worse someone's mouth

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is, the more welcome there are in his office.

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Like he wants to be the place where if every

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dentist has said, that's too much or this is

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too complex. He's the guy that wants to say,

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please, I welcome you. Come on in. And what a

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lot of people have when they're at that point

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is severe trauma, probably in some shape or form

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of thinking about themselves, being embarrassed

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about their smile, being embarrassed to smile

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in front of other people. And what he said is,

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I want to make sure people know this is a judgment

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-free zone, that you don't have to have dental

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anxiety and you can make sure this is a safe

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space. And if you pull up his website, I'll...

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cookstreetvillagedental .com is the website for

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those that want to have a look. Yeah. Out of

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the gate, a judgment -free zone. Exactly. Yeah.

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Exactly. A safe space for all of your dental

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needs. Then there's a video that shows you the

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new patient experience and what you can expect.

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You meet the dentists. And the next one is, how

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can we help you? Are you embarrassed of your

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smile? Do you have missing or broken teeth? Are

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you afraid of going to the dentist? Even his

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services, when you drop down from the main menu,

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I need my teeth cleaned. I need to repair my

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teeth. I need to replace missing teeth. I want

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to perfect my smile. I want to straighten my

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smile. So immediately the approach of this website

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is everything about, hey, Eric, what do you want?

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What do you need? And here's how we can help

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you get that. When I think of who does it, well,

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I like the one you mentioned there. I also like.

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Dr. Brittany Dickinson out of Lakeview, Chicago.

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She has a company, Sugar Fix, and when you land

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on her site, it says, what makes you smile, right?

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And then it leads to her Discover Bespoke Restorative

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Dentistry. Now, that sounds highbrow, right?

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Because that's what she's doing. I mean, and

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then it jumps you. Dr. Dickinson loves designing

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smiles. And yeah, she does cleanings, and yeah,

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she does. ortho and all this other stuff but

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but she's narrowed her message down to solving

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this very specific problem that her potential

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consumer has and i like that she's on that end

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very nicely i think that's another one to to

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look at if someone who's now she's not going

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to be for everyone and but that to me is the

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fear that we have to get past as marketers and

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as business owners is by part of the reason we

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push out, I do crowns and I do implants and I

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love to do Invisalign. I've been in business

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at this. We're trying to widen the net to make

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us more appealing to everyone. For years and

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years, your parents taught you, trying to please

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everyone, you're going to please no one. It's

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a paradoxical marketing problem in that The narrower

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we focus our message, the broader the appeal

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because we begin to look very put together. We

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know our audience and we become easier to relate

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to. And it simplifies the conversations we start

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having with offices or, you know, with prospective

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patients. That to me is... The fear part that

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we have to get over as marketers is, I want to

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put all that somewhere on your site. It should

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not be on your homepage. And niching down, there's

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no problem with that. Because I think the conversion

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rate, exactly to what you said now, if you start

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to narrow in and you have a clear message, your

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potential of conversion is also going up. Because,

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for instance, I know Eric loves well -designed

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leather boots. He loves a pair of boots. If Eric

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goes to a site, and I'll do this exercise with

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you, they have these boots, they have women's,

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men's, indoor, outdoor, this, the widest selection

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that you've ever seen, or a company that says,

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we have a premium crafted boot that is customly

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fitted to your shoe size and is delivered in

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this way and whatever for the man that likes

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the outdoors. In which example does Eric go?

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this is the brand for me or no, I'm just going

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to go with try and find something. For sure.

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Because I assume I can order whatever leather

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I would want made or whatever. Well, so sure.

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No question. Another client for me that I think

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did this really, really well is funny enough.

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Also up in Canada, Calgary is Reflections Dental

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Group, Dr. Ashish Mehta. His whole approach is

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I'm a boutique dental practice. I'm not everyone's

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dentist, but I could be yours. I could be the

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right one for you. And if you open up his website,

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it's reflectionsdentalgroup .com. It starts off

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with one patient, one chair, exceptional care.

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And immediately that boutique, small, non -conveyable

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dentistry style. And as you scroll through the

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homepage, you will similarly see that. We're

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dedicated to your smile. Here's what other people

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are saying. Here's the way that we do. Here's

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the three steps in which we're going to help

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you and the time we're going to take to see you.

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The messaging here is you're not just going to

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be another patient on a conveyor belt. We're

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going to take the time to actually get to know

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you. You're not going to be rushed. You might

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pay a bit more, but it's going to be worth the

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experience that you're going to have compared

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to the DSO down the road. That is from the start

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something he wanted to achieve. And at the end

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of the day, I think he did that really well in

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what he put out. Well, Ian, I mean, we've covered

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what we're looking for. We've covered some ideas

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of how to get there starting with your site and

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a couple of examples. I mean, I think that's

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a good, might be a good place to wrap it up and

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get back to December. Can I summarize briefly?

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I would love to summarize briefly. Please. As

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you know, I love to do. Briefly or summarizing?

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Can those two things be said in the same sentence

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with me? Maybe not by us. So number one is stop

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telling multiple stories at once and find what

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your story is. What is important to you as a

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dentist and your dental practice? Don't be scared

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to niche down and focus on what truly matters

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to you in the production of your practice and

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how you want to be seen. Your brand. Find that

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message. Number two. Stop talking about yourself

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all the time. Figure out what actually matters

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to a potential new patient and make sure that

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the messaging on your website is representing

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that. Not in a way that's constantly saying how

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great you are and the practice is, but the actual

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problems that you're going to solve for the patient,

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whether that be medical or financial. Help them

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choose you through the value that you're going

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to give them. Not because you tell them to choose.

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And then the final thing is to be the guide in

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the story that you're trying to tell. Don't try

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and be the hero. Be the guide and help them through

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the social proof that you put out there to the,

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I mean, the reviews that you're getting into

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the office, the messaging that you're putting

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out to the videos and the pictures. Be the guide

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to them so that they are the hero in their story.

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And then tell that story once you've gotten the

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messaging done. That is your bite. Have you stopped

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it? Have you stopped it? No. That's your bite.

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That was your bite of diddle barking.
