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Hey, welcome to the Methodist Voice.

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The purpose of our time together is to grow in the knowledge of God revealed in the pages

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of scripture.

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2 Corinthians chapter 3 tells us that when we contemplate the God revealed in scripture,

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it transforms us into His image.

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That transformation beautifies our minds and hearts and we then beautify the world together.

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We think that's time well spent.

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Thanks for joining us.

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I hope you enjoy today's episode.

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I am so glad that you are joining us on this first episode of the Methodist Voice.

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The reason we're doing this podcast is because we want to grow in the knowledge of God by

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growing in our understanding of scripture.

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We kind of alluded to that in the intro, but I wanted to develop the intro just a little

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bit reading the scripture that it is based upon because really it sets the tone for the

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whole series.

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In the intro, we cited 2 Corinthians chapter 3.

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I'm going to start reading at verse 14 because it explains what is happening when we grow

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in our knowledge of God, when we contemplate God through what is revealed in scripture.

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It says in verse 14, but their minds, speaking of Old Testament Israel, the Jewish people

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were hardened for to this day when they read the old covenant, the same veil remains unlifted

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because only through Christ is it taken away.

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In other words, because their hearts are hardened, they have not been enlightened by the Holy

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Spirit through faith in Jesus Christ.

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They cannot see the meaning of the text and therefore they can't see the God who was revealed

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through the text.

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Here's what it says in verse 15.

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Yes, to this day, whenever Moses is read, the books of the Old Testament, specifically

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the Pentateuch, the first 5 books of the Old Testament, but this would apply to all of

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scripture.

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To this day, whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their hearts.

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Verse 16, but when one turns to the Lord, the veil is removed.

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Now the Lord is the spirit and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

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I'm now free to gaze upon the God who is revealed there without shrinking back, without getting

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confused.

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Verse 18, and we all with unveiled faces, I'm able to look directly at the God who's

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revealed there and it says, beholding the glory of the Lord.

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We're being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another.

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So as we gaze upon the glory of God revealed in the pages of scripture with unveiled faces,

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we're being changed, we're being transformed into that same image that we're looking at.

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For this comes from the Lord who is the spirit.

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The Holy Spirit is the one, His power is what makes it effective.

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So that's what we're about in this series.

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We're trusting that God is going to be working in this way specifically in our minds and

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hearts as we submit them to growing in our understanding of the pages of scripture.

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We're going to be influenced, we're going to be changed and we are going to not only

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have our minds and hearts beautified by this transformation, we're going to be able to

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beautify the world around us as we take that transformative grace out there wherever we

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go.

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So with that being said, we're going to kind of set the tone for our study.

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We're going to be studying Genesis chapters one through 11.

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It's an important block of scripture because it is the foundation upon which a supernatural

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worldview is built.

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Genesis chapters one through 11 are a block of scripture within the larger corpus of the

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books of the Old Testament referred to as primeval history.

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So the word primeval is used because it refers to events that occurred long before history

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was ever written down.

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Preval history means prehistory.

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So in these chapters you'll find information that covers large swaths of history in only

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a few simple stories.

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That's what mythology functions to do.

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To communicate larger than life truths in simplified stories that are compelling and

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easy to remember and can be transmitted through storytelling to future generations.

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Now some people cringe when you use that word mythology or myths in reference to the Bible

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because they think it renders it untrue.

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It's just made up stories.

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But that's not how we're using the word.

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I'm going to quote to you from C.S. Lewis from his book God in the Dock.

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Very good description of what we mean when we use the word mythology because we have

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when we're covering what Genesis one through 11 covers thousands of years of history and

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we're just telling a few stories.

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You know you're not getting all of the details.

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So there's a lot of room for the imagination to take hold of this and really discover what

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God is trying to reveal to us.

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Not only about himself but about ourselves.

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So here's what C.S. Lewis said from his book God in the Dock.

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Now as myth transcends thought, incarnation transcends myth.

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The heart of Christianity is a myth which is also a fact.

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The old myth of the dying God, there were many myths, pause this is just Kendall speaking

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now, there were many myths throughout antiquity that posited a dying God or many of the basic

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precepts of the story of Jesus Christ are found in antiquity.

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And so the old myth of the dying God without ceasing to be myth comes down from the heaven

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of legend and imagination to the earth of history.

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It happens at a particular date in a particular place followed by definable historical consequences.

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We pass from a Balder or an Osiris, gods of antiquity, dying nobody knows when or where

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to a historical person crucified.

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It is all in order under Pontius Pilate.

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By becoming fact it does not cease to be myth, that is the miracle.

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We must not be ashamed of the mythical radiance resting on our theology, resting on our stories.

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We must not be nervous about parallels and pagan Christs, they ought to be there.

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It would be a stumbling block if they weren't.

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Those stories paved the way for ancient peoples to receive the truths that God would eventually

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reveal in the facts of history.

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Carrying on with CS Lewis here, we must not in false spirituality withhold our imaginative

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If God chooses to be mythopoetic and is not the sky itself a myth, should we refuse to

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be mythopathic?

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For this is the marriage of heaven and earth, perfect myth and perfect fact, claiming not

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only our love and our obedience but also our wonder and delight, addressed to the savage,

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the child, and the poet, in each one of us no less than to the moralist, the scholar,

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I also wanted to read to you from an author, Justin Wiggins, from Christianity.com, and

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he's commenting further on what Lewis says here in the topic of myth.

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To an ancient mind, a myth was a story that conveyed an important universal truth about

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what it means to be human.

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This is rather difficult for a modern person to understand.

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Our culture has been heavily influenced by what Lewis calls chronological snobbery.

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If it doesn't fit how we think about things today, it can't be true.

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Our culture has fallen prey to assuming that only the things we can prove are true.

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The fact is we constantly learn how little we know.

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Now listen, that's the end of the quote.

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But if the past three years hasn't taught us anything, it's that we know really very

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little, not only about the natural world, but about the ancient world.

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How much have we debated the science in the past three years?

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The facts the past three years?

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We really know very little.

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And myths can communicate truths way more profound than facts ever could.

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And so when we think about things like genealogies in the book of Genesis, or whether or not

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creation happened in seven literal days, it's not clear that those are intended to give

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us a timeline of human history or how many days it took God to create the earth.

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They're just ancient peoples packaging a story in a way that was easy to remember and

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communicated really transcendent truths.

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So because of the enigmatic nature of Genesis 1 through 11, we're often left with more questions

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about the world than we have answers.

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And so sometimes that's exactly the point of biblical revelation.

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It intends to arouse in us a sense of the mystery of God, a concept the New Testament

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calls Mysterion.

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And so I wanted to read to you from a Wikipedia article about that word, Mysterion.

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Although the term is not usually used equally by all Christian traditions, many of the basic

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aspects of Christian theology require a supernatural explanation.

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To name a few key examples, these include the nature of the Trinity, the virgin birth

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of Jesus, and the resurrection of Jesus.

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These are mysteries in the sense that they cannot be explained or apprehended by reason

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alone.

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The word Mysterion is used 27 times in the New Testament.

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It denotes not so much the meaning of the modern English term mystery, but rather something

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that is mystical.

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In the biblical Greek, the term refers to that which awaits disclosure or interpretation.

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In the Catholic Church, the Latin term is Mysterium Fidei, mystery of faith.

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It is defined in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1997 to mean a mystery hidden in God,

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which can never be known unless revealed by God himself.

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In the Roman Catholic Church, the First Vatican Council reaffirmed the existence of mysteries

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as a doctrine of Catholic faith as follows.

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If anyone say that in divine revelation there are contained no mysteries, properly so called,

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but that through reason rightly developed, all the dogmas of the faith can be understood

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and demonstrated from natural principles, let him be anathema, or cut off from the faith.

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The position, if not the terminology, of other Christian churches is essentially the same.

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So the mysteries of God are intended to arouse in us a sense of wonder, awe, curiosity, delight,

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fascination, all of that ultimately leading to ever increasing pleasure found in worship

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of the uncreated being disclosed in the pages of scripture.

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In Proverbs 25 2 it says, it is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of

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kings is to search things out.

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So as we go through this study, we're going to be using our imagination to explore the

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meaning and the implications of these passages.

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And in the process, our aim is to discover more about God.

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We're going to allow our imaginations to be informed by knowledge derived from the natural

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world as well as other writings both inside and outside of scripture and that's okay.

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Nobody's going to be tempted to worship demons because we read some ancient Near Eastern

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text even if we're considering what's true about them.

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So the information found in Genesis 1 through 11 is not unique.

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Most of these stories have their parallels in the ancient Near Eastern world.

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They were written down long before the stories found in the book of Genesis were written

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down.

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And so many times this has led people to assume that the early Jewish people copied from other

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sources and that's not necessarily the case because if the events were real, if there

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really was a flood and I believe all of these events were, then various cultures would have

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retained memories of these events and the lessons they believed they were to have learned

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from them.

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So it would only be natural if the events really happened more than just the Jewish

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culture would have a record of these events, right?

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So what's unique about Genesis isn't the events that are recorded, but the unique interpretation

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of the same events documented even in places like South America.

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Isn't that crazy?

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So before humans were ever thought to have crossed the ocean or the continents from more

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advanced civilizations over to the Americas, they already had a record of these events

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in South America.

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It's difficult to explain, right?

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So it might be helpful at this point to share my view of scripture as we move forward.

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My view is the larger Methodist view.

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I was originally ordained in the United Methodist Church, but now I'm a part of the Global Methodist

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Church.

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So most of us in those circles don't use words like inerrant or infallible because the scripture

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doesn't use those words.

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We prefer words like truthful, trustworthy, authoritative, divine revelation, words like

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inerrant we don't find useful because they're imprecise and even misleading.

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So every manuscript of the books of the Bible that we possess contains errors from innumerable

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scribal copies.

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Scribes would copy the text over and over and over again.

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Inevitably they would make mistakes, maybe small spelling errors.

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Maybe they would repeat something that wasn't supposed to be repeated.

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So there are lots of human errors that are made in the process of copying the manuscripts

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of scripture.

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So that's why people who insist on applying terms like inerrant to the scripture always

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apply the qualifier inerrant in their original manuscripts.

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Well we don't have any original manuscripts to know whether Moses or whoever made a spelling

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error in the original copy or not.

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So what if they did?

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Let me ask you a question.

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What if Moses had made a spelling error in the original manuscript of scripture?

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Would that make them any less true?

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Or any less useful in revealing God to us?

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Of course not.

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Would it make them any less authoritative?

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No.

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Furthermore, you do have events described in scripture that we know according to modern

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science are not described precisely and accurately.

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I'll give you an example.

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Let's look at Joshua chapter 10, the story of the Jewish people entering the promised

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land and they're engaging in warfare to take over the land.

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Here's what it says in Joshua chapter 10 verse 12, starting in verse 12.

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At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to

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the sons of Israel.

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And he said in the sight of Israel, sun stand still at Gibeon and moon in the valley of

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Aijalon.

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And the sun stood still and the moon stopped until the nation took vengeance on their enemies.

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Is it not written in the book of Jasher?

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The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

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There has been no day like it before or since when the Lord heeded the voice of a man for

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the Lord fought for Israel.

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Did you catch the error?

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Modern science proves irrefutably that this passage couldn't possibly be inerrant because

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the sun doesn't move.

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We know it's the earth that is moving.

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The sun just appeared to be moving from a pre-scientific ancient perspective of early

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humans.

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That's how they saw it.

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But that doesn't mean the testimony of the text is any less reliable or trustworthy.

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Just because it's described imprecisely doesn't mean that something like that didn't really

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happen.

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And we shouldn't expect ancient humans to have advanced scientific information to faithfully

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communicate the acts of God in history according to the knowledge that they had.

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So yes, there are mistakes found in the manuscripts of scripture.

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There are conflicting accounts of events in scripture.

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There are probably even other inaccuracies in some other details, but that doesn't render

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them any less authoritative or trustworthy in what they bear witness to happening.

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God has faithfully revealed His acts in history and enough of His nature to us through what's

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recorded in scripture that we can come into a proper relationship with God.

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And that's what the scripture intends to do.

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That's the intent of all of scripture is to reveal to human beings who God is, what He

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is like, and how to come into a relationship with Him.

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The scripture does not intend to teach us science in modern 21st century scientific

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precision like that even exists.

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So as we approach Genesis, if that is true of scripture recorded in Joshua's day, how

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much more would that also be true of what is described by the stories found in Genesis

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one through 11, which would have been transmitted orally for thousands of years before they

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were ever written down.

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Scientific and historical precision like that attempted to be imposed on the text by words

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like inerrant are not the goal of the stories in Genesis.

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The stories in Genesis seek to explain to the entire world that their interpretation

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of the events found there are correct.

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You've got lots of different versions of these stories found all over the ancient near east,

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all over the world, but the interpretation found in the pages of Genesis is the correct

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interpretation.

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It's a right take.

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And that their one God is the only God truly worthy of the title God.

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So the purpose of scripture is to disclose supernatural truths, not pinpoint natural truths.

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We can discover natural truths all on our own through research and experimentation, but

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we can only know God in the supernatural realm if God reveals God by revealing Himself first

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to men in history, both directly and indirectly, then by sovereignly and supernaturally guiding

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them to faithfully record what they have seen and heard and witnessed.

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That's why scripture is not only authoritative and truthful in everything it proclaims, but

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it is unique.

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It stands unique in all of history.

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There's nothing else like it.

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It is the only trustworthy means by which we can know and grow a relationship with this

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God in eternity.

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He's ultimately a God who is unknowable.

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So that's the beauty of it.

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God is infinite.

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We are finite.

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We will never, we will never know all of God.

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But there are things found in scripture that are going to reveal Him to us.

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There are things about God that can be known in scripture and there are unknown things

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that can be disclosed by the assistance of the Holy Spirit in our imaginations.

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And we'll even be open to that.

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So as we prepare to go through Genesis 1 through 11, I wanted to give you kind of an overview

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of how we approach scripture, how we think about scripture.

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And I wanted to end with this.

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It's a message of encouragement from Proverbs chapter 2 verse 1 about what we've been talking

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about.

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So I'm just going to read through this as we close.

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My son, if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear

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attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding, yes, if you call out for

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insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for

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it as hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge

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of God.

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There's knowledge that's been revealed and there's knowledge that's been hidden and it's

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the joy of God to conceal a thing and it's the joy of Kings to search it out.

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Let's keep reading in verse 6.

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For the Lord gives wisdom from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.

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He stores up sound wisdom for the upright.

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He is a shield to those who walk in integrity, guarding the paths of justice, watching over

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the way of his saints.

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Then you will understand righteousness and justice and equity, every good path.

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You will be beautified for wisdom will come into your heart and knowledge will be pleasant

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to your soul.

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You'll experience the pleasures of knowing and understanding God himself.

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And I would say that is the highest pleasure a human being can experience.

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It's being obedient to the first commandment, you are to love the Lord your God with all

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of your heart, with all of your mind, with all of your strength.

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This is your highest purpose.

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It is your highest pleasure to grow in your ability to love God with all of your heart,

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mind and strength.

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That's what we're submitting ourselves to do as we go through this series.

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I want to end with a quick prayer and then we'll go about our day.

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Father, thank you for the power of your Holy Spirit that rests upon an authentic pursuit

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of truth, an authentic pursuit of the knowledge of God.

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We ask you Holy Spirit, as we submit our minds and hearts to your word, impart the knowledge

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of God, reveal the God, both known and unknown, reveal the God to us as we seek him in the

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pages of scripture.

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We ask this together in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Well, thanks for joining us today.

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We will dig in to Genesis chapter one, starting in verse one in our next episode.

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Hope you choose to join us.

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Have a good day.

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Bye.

