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Okay, let's pray.

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Father as we always do, we just pause a moment, turn the eyes of our heart towards you.

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We want to thank you for your presence, Holy Spirit.

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Thank you for your leadership.

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We ask you, we invite you to lead, guide, and direct our conversation.

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Bless us with your knowledge, with your wisdom, with your insight, with the power of your

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energy that's at work energizing us with the knowledge of God, the things of God.

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So we thank you.

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We know it's your great joy and delight to share the things of God with us.

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We want you to do that here among us this evening as you always do.

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We're grateful for you.

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It's in Jesus' name we pray.

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Amen.

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All right, I wanted to start off with a devotional.

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And I'm going to be reading from the Gospel of John.

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If you want to go there with me.

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Now, one of the reasons I'm reading from John is to demonstrate how some of the concepts

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that we're reading from Genesis are relevant to things found other places in the Bible.

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So like when we're talking about the image of God, how the moral image of God has been

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completely destroyed, God's grace has preserved some aspects of that within us.

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You know, as Methodist, when we're talking about perfection, we're just talking about

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the full restoration of the image of God, having it completely repaired.

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And Wesley would say that whenever that happens, that's where we're the happiest.

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Happiness and holiness are two sides of the same coin.

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So I just wanted to read a little bit from John 14, some select verses, because the Holy

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Spirit is the one who is working in us to bring about the restoration of the image of

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God.

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I also want to...

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I would like for the body of Christ to really take ownership of what it means to be sons

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and daughters of God.

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I mean, there is so much power that's waiting to be appropriated when we take ownership

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of our identity and begin acting like sons and daughters.

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So I'm going to just read a few select verses from John 14, 15, and 16.

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These are three of my favorite chapters of the Bible.

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John chapter 14, 15, and 16.

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I'm going to start in verse number 10.

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John 14, Tony, is where I'm at.

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Don't you believe that I am in the Father and that the Father is in me?

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The words I say to you are not just my own, rather it is the Father living in me who is

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doing his work.

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Now, if you're born again, if you're filled with the Holy Spirit, that's true of you as

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well.

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Right?

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There is energy and power that is awakening qualities in people to produce extraordinary

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results.

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Verse number 11, believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me,

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or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

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I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing.

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He will do even greater things than these because I am going to the Father and I will

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do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.

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You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it.

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Now if you were to read chapters 14, 15, and 16 and count how many times that concept is

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repeated, it would be almost like God is trying to slap us in the face and say, believe this,

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do it, do it with conviction and you'll see amazing results.

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And the patterns right there in creation.

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God created things were in a state of chaos, God brought order to the chaos.

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Then He created this nice space for humans, put them in the nice space and said, you tend

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it and keep it and make the entire earth look like this.

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So within every human being there are qualities that God wants to awaken by which we will

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bring order to the chaotic world and make it a more beautiful place.

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Now here's let's skip over to chapter 16.

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Chapter 12, I have much more to say to you more than you can now bear, but when He, the

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spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth.

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He will not speak on his own.

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He will speak only what he hears and He will tell you what is yet to come.

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What do you think of that?

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That's why I'm here.

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That's one of the jobs of the Holy Spirit.

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You guys believe in spiritual gifts?

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Words of wisdom, words of knowledge, gift of prophecy, you know, one of the jobs of the

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Holy Spirit is to enlighten the eyes of our hearts so we can see things that we couldn't

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see from a human perspective to give us direction towards whatever it is He wants us to do,

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whatever blessing He wants to bring to the world.

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And there are capabilities that are dormant within the body of Christ if she just took

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ownership of her status as sons of God.

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What a fully restored image bearer of God is capable of.

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I mean just imagine what we could do.

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You know, it's amazing.

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Okay, let's discuss the creation of time and the God of the Eternal Now.

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What did we think of this?

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This was kind of a deep podcast.

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I thought it was a different situation.

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So don't be closed and Jesus said he was a liar.

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Okay, so to me they weren't there from the dead.

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They were there from their time to see the Savior from their time would be the future

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but at the same time of God because it's all the same time God looking down at the whole

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So again, they're not back from the dead.

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They're just missing from their time maybe inhibition in their mind.

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I don't think it's easy but I...

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See I had never thought of that until you just brought it up.

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I knew.

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Well that's...

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Two things to talk, physics.

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I don't think it's physics.

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No, no, no.

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But anyway, that's when we were doing that.

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That's what I thought.

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And of course on a more simplistic thing I thought of what I thought was the future.

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I remember the movie, he thought he hadn't made it but because he was going against the

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turning of the earth he gained today and he was talking about...

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You talked about that in the podcast.

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The Interstellar.

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Yes, again, it's just...

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We have a concept of time but that's it.

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God has no concept of time.

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Well God has a concept of time but it's not the way we have a concept of time.

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It's an interesting concept and there are some important theological implications to

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that so you guys know what Calvinism is.

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Philosophical determinism.

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Okay, so Calvinism.

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I'll give you the five points of Calvinism.

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These are like...

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So the early Methodists, this is a big deal, the Methodists.

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The early Methodists were split between Calvinists and Arminians.

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Okay, people who believe in philosophical determinism, God predestines everything that happens.

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Okay, and people who believe in free will.

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God's given people free will.

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And there was a big debate between the Methodists over this controversy.

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So Calvinism, the five points of Calvinism.

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You can understand it by the acronym TULIP.

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So T stands for total depravity.

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Human beings are totally depraved.

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Incapable of contributing anything to their salvation.

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Their slaves to sin.

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So Methodists would agree with that.

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We don't disagree with them on the total depravity thing.

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Next one is unconditional election.

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God unconditionally elects those who are going to be saved

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and those who are going to be damned apart from any merit on their part.

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Limited atonement, Jesus only died for the elect.

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He didn't die for the reprobate.

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Irresistible grace, the grace of God that saves people.

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You don't have a choice into whether or not you're getting saved.

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It's irresistible.

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So if God chose you, you're going to get saved whether you like it or not.

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Same thing with the damned.

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Even if you want to go to heaven, too bad you're not picked.

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And then, perseverance of the saints, which is once saved always saved.

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This is Calvinism kind of in a nutshell.

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Now there's a big problem with that system of thought.

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Calvinists, they love calling everybody that's not Calvinist a heretic.

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They're like the worst heretic hunters in the church.

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Because if you're Armenian, then they would say,

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well you believe that you can save yourself.

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There's something within you that's good.

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You're not completely, you know, that's heresy, you know, whatever.

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But they've got a bigger problem.

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And it was Wolfgang Pannenberg that stated this.

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If God looks down through the corridors of time and sovereignly,

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if you ever hear somebody use the word sovereign a lot, it's probably a Calvinist.

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Just like if you hear somebody use the word grace a lot, it's probably a Methodist.

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God looks down through the corridors of time and he looks into the future

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and he determines who's going to be saved and who's going to be damned.

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Now, this is why the idea of God who does not exist in time and space is so important.

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Because if God knows the future, and there is such a thing as the future from God's perspective,

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Houston, we have a problem.

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Because that places God within creation, not transcendent from creation.

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And basically, you're teaching pantheism that God is a part of and within nature,

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not transcendent from time.

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So, if there is such a thing as the future from God's perspective,

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that makes God subject to time.

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So, yes, sir?

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The first in the Bible is that five guys were in the A1 parish.

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Jesus, I think, was saying that, it was a Paul.

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I don't remember who said that, but it's not guys' wish that anyone in the parish.

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That all be saved.

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That gave you freedom.

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You picked your story and you're going to be saved.

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That's right.

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And now we...

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And it's also just kind of anybody with any type of common sense understands.

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God did not predestine me to do that.

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I chose to do that.

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Right?

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Now, technically, as Methodists, we do affirm total depravity.

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We have a different solution to the problem.

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So, with the image of God being...

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moral image of God being destroyed in human beings,

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we have no desire for God.

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By nature, we have no desire for God.

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We have no curiosity about God.

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No desire to do good.

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We're totally depraved.

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We affirm that.

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But we have this thing called Provenient Grace.

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You guys heard that word before?

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It's the grace of God that prepares us for salvation.

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It's free for all. It's free to all.

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It's free in all.

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The proof text of that is John 1.9.

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John 1.9, that light which enlightens every man has now come into the world.

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So, we believe that Provenient Grace is irresistible.

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It is unconditional.

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It's for everyone.

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And it enables free will in every human being.

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Whether they want it or not, whether they ask for it or not.

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Now, a person can make a shipwreck of their faith,

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the faith that they've received,

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and put themselves in worse bondage than you could imagine.

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You know, people who've done that with illegal drugs

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and all kinds of things

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where they basically become slaves to whatever that thing is.

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The Provenient Grace of God has provided every person with the grace that they need

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to make a real decision for or against Jesus Christ.

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A real decision.

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It's not something coerced by God's sovereign choice.

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So, anyways, the idea of a God who's transcendent from time

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is an important concept, not only for that argument,

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but for the, you know, if you take the argument against atheists that...

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And you've heard me say this before many times.

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I don't want to repeat myself, but everything comes from something.

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And then that leads the atheists to say, well, where does God come from?

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Okay, that's a physical law.

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It's a law of nature.

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God is not a part of nature, not subject to nature.

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So that's a law that applies to the physical creation,

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not a transcendent, uncreated God.

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He's not subject to those laws.

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So, any other questions about that podcast?

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The creation of time and the God of the eternal now.

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I really like retelling that story about David and K'ilah,

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where David asks God, hey, is this going to happen?

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And God says, yes, that's going to happen.

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And come to find out, David makes some adjustments, and guess what?

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It didn't happen.

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We can change the future.

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Through prophetic giftings, people who are prophetically gifted

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can hear from God, and we can participate in creating a future

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that avoids really bad things and produces really good things.

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That's an important gift.

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As a matter of fact, that's why Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14,

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above everything else, covet the gift of prophecy.

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What do you think of that, K'ilah?

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That sounds good to me.

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I agree.

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Okay.

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What about the Divine Council?

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There's all kinds of questions.

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Good. I was counting on that.

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Well, yes, but I didn't like the mail in there, so maybe I don't know where to do it.

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I pulled up some other stuff on what Christians believe and what they teach that's wrong,

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and it mentioned the Great Council.

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But in the Great Council, so the Council would exist before creation.

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I would say yes.

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Okay, so discussions in the Council almost makes you think that before Adam and Eve,

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and I'm wondering just where the concept comes that there was a creation before that messed up,

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and there was a new creation.

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I'm not opposed to that type of idea,

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not so much because of what's in the Bible,

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but because of what's in the world that can't be explained.

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I'm not saying I agree with that,

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but something on the other thing I pulled up that brought to mind was that

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looking at the Scripture and Genesis,

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it tells Adam and Eve to refer it for a multiply,

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and refer it for the fall.

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And something that came up with the guy that was going to earth this was

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that there could have been children born to Adam and Eve before Cain and Abel,

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and that there could be all these other people that were there,

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and then the fall came.

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Now, there's nothing, I don't know how you could even...

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You can't refer or deny that, either way.

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But he did tell them to refer it for a multiply for the fall,

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and I had never thought of that before.

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Honestly, I hadn't either.

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I know not all of their kids are named,

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just certain important ones are named,

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and throughout all of the genealogies.

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What do you have?

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70?

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30 or something.

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But when Cain gets expelled,

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who is he afraid of?

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There's not supposed to be any Eddie out there.

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Why is he afraid?

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We will cover that.

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We will cover the options on that.

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The idea of the Divine Council,

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it's difficult to argue to me based upon everything in Scripture that it covers.

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And what's important about that is it gives us a window

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into how God is administering the affairs of the universe.

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And he's doing it in partnership with his family members.

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And that tells us that it gives us a window into how he wants to rule the earth.

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So he rules the heavenly realm in conjunction with these beings,

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because God enjoys relationship with all of his creation.

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We all believe God enjoys a relationship with us.

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God wants to do things with me and through me.

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You guys agree with that?

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And how God expects me to make contributions to the project.

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That's part of why I have a free will.

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And I have a creative energy.

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God wants me to bring things to the equation that he looks at and says,

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wow, I like that idea.

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Let's do that.

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I didn't hear from God, he heard from me.

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God wants to hear from me.

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So that's one of the things I like about that.

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And you see that in Genesis chapter 2 whenever we get there.

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God's bringing the animals to Adam.

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It's like here I made these animals, you give it a name.

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It's like some Christians, God probably told Adam what to name those animals.

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No, he didn't.

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Told Adam, you name the animal, that's your job.

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Okay, question.

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I can't remember if it was your podcast or the other thing,

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which I cut him off the edge trying to find out.

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Isn't that fun?

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Are the angels, could they not be eternal either?

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Because are there passages where it talks about they're at cancel that you are not,

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that they could die also?

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Yeah, that's Psalm 82.

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They could die like men.

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Okay, so I didn't know what to make of that.

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Now we wouldn't call angels eternal because they are created beings.

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So they're like us, they're immortal.

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They're going to live forever, but they had a definite beginning.

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God created the angels just like he created human beings.

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Now what was the question, Tony?

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Okay, there, sons of God.

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Right, yep, yep.

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I understood that for the first time.

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I heard that and I always couldn't figure that out.

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Can they, like when there's battles, and we know there's going to be battles,

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do they kill each other?

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I mean, how do they defeat each other?

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You know, that's a good question.

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Because...

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They just sit down and throw them in it.

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They're not.

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They're not killed, they're bound.

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It's kind of like the language that the Bible uses.

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And so we have like, we're going to see the first incursion of these beings

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in Genesis chapter six.

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Likely the location of that was Mount Hermon,

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and it says those beings that rebelled there, interestingly enough,

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I'm kind of getting ahead of myself, but 200 of those beings rebelled,

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the Bible's going to talk about the nations being disinherited from God

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and given over to these beings.

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How many countries on the earth do you think there are roughly?

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About 200.

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Isn't that interesting?

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You're going to see...

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We got a good one, whoever it is.

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So you're also going to see some interesting numbers in Genesis chapter 10

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when it does the Table of Nations.

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There's going to be important symbology there.

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But the language the Bible uses is like those beings were put in prison.

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A prison, the New Testament uses the word Tartarus.

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So you hear that word in Greek mythology, the Titans being imprisoned.

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A lot of these stories are covering the same information.

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Different names and names of the changed.

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Yeah.

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And sometimes the good guys and the bad guys are swapped.

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But it talks about them being imprisoned.

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And that's who Jesus goes to visit when he's in the grave.

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You know that story?

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Well, that came up too.

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Okay.

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It's fascinating.

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That would be the land of the dead, not necessarily hell,

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but the land of the dead, like a holding place for everybody to prove.

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And again, this was brought up, not from you,

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but it was interesting because you look at salvation in the Old Testament.

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And one of the guys I read talked about how Jesus is like a credit card.

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So the Old Testament people had salvation based on credit.

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I've heard that.

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And then we have it based on it's already been paid.

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They'll need the credit.

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So they look forward to it, we look back to it.

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They were in this holding place, our paradise, and we talked about that.

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I mean, this is all just so fascinating.

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And I can't get a definite hold on any of it.

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There was kind of two holding places though, right?

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Yeah.

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There was the good place and the bad place.

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The good and the bad place.

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So the good that were going to be brought up one day, right?

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That would be the Old Testament.

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See.

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So yeah.

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And it's ambiguous as to what Jesus was doing when he was in that place.

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There's different opinions.

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I'm not sure which one is right.

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But some people say Jesus, well, Heiser would say that Jesus was down there functioning like the second Enoch,

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reminding these beings that they've been defeated by him and they're still going to be in prison

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and they're going to be doomed one of these days.

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So I'm not sure I agree with almost everything else, Heiser.

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I'm not sure I agree with that take.

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But maybe.

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Maybe that's right.

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It's not that clear.

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So anyway, there are concepts in the New Testament that you're just going to whiff on

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if you don't get the supernatural storyline down.

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So it's an important topic.

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What else from the Divine Council?

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I just didn't realize there were so many different types of angels and different subgroups.

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I feel like, oh my God.

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Yeah, an angel is not a class of being.

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It's a job description.

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Right.

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And that's...

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These are going to be important.

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I believe that whenever the end time timeframe does go down,

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these are going to be important concepts to be familiar with because we're likely going to see in our lifetime

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things that have never been seen before, that are absolutely perplexing,

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that will dupe massive numbers of people, believers included, into a deception.

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But if we're informed, the book of Daniel says,

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those who are wise will shine like the stars in the sky and lead many to righteousness.

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So we're going to learn as we go throughout the Genesis 1 through 11,

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these are beings that are not demons.

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They're distinct from demons.

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We're going to learn demons are the disembodied spirit of what the Bible refers to as the Nephilim or giants.

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You've heard of giants.

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But those are lower quality beings than what Paul describes as thrones, principalities, powers, and rulers.

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These are a higher class of being that would have rebelled that can manifest themselves in a lot of different ways.

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You said earlier that demons are not Paul and angels.

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Correct.

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That's a new concept to me.

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That would be the book of Enoch would describe this as well as other Jewish sources, early church sources.

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You'll find some of the early church fathers discussing this probably based on the book of Enoch, truth be told.

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But whenever the sons of God married the daughters of men and the men of renown were born to them, giants,

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what the Bible describes as giants, the disembodied spirits of those beings are the origin story of demons.

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And so what's interesting, you see throughout the Old Testament, there's this war going on between the Jewish people,

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the nation of Israel, and these giant clans.

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And then in the New Testament, you see this war going on in the gospels between Jesus and the disciples and their disembodied spirits, demons.

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And so it's like the same thing, the same battle.

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And obviously we know Jesus was victorious.

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And the Nephilim returned to Jesus in the dark.

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Yeah.

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And I read a part human origin.

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So you need to use that class first.

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It's confusing from what you said.

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If you don't get this concept now.

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And I've read that and it's, I'm not understanding.

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I'll be honest with you, Tom.

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I read the first six chapters real careful.

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After that.

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I read it all.

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It's my body.

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Yeah.

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And there's other Jewish sources that shed light on some interesting things, you know, during that time frame.

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But that's, that one's important because it's referenced three times in the New Testament.

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It's quoted once in the New Testament.

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It was found with the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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It was debated as to whether or not it belonged in the canon, in the canonization process.

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So it's an important book.

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It probably shouldn't be in the canon, but it's still a important book.

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Do you think it wasn't in the canon because the people who decided what went in and what did not,

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oh that's a little too out there.

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People misunderstand or we can walk.

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No, because they all believed that stuff.

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You know, it's not until...

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No, the Book of Enoch was written before this.

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I know, but I'm saying when they canonized the Bible, maybe they didn't believe that by that point.

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Honestly, the supernatural view of those things would have still been the dominant view.

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Probably, now there were dissenting voices probably around the Council of Nicaea,

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but it's after the Council of Nicaea that the institutionalization of the church begins,

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and that's when people try and start moving away from the mythology.

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They wanted to distance themselves from Greek mythology because that was becoming out of fashion amongst the Greeks,

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and so they tried to start finding natural explanations for a lot of these things.

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But at the time of the Council of Nicaea, that still would have been...

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the traditional view would have still been the dominant view, the supernatural view.

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Okay, so you mentioned in the time of Jesus,

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but modern Jesus doesn't accept the Book of Enoch at all from what I could find out,

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because they think it's hereticable.

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Is that a word?

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You mean they're worth a doctor?

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Yeah, because there's a man down there,

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because there's a guy on YouTube and he goes through and look at you quite well.

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Because something I read, whatever reasons why they couldn't accept it,

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and I can't remember.

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It's probably because they're prophecies of Jesus in the Book of Enoch.

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Yeah, and so they're going to reject anything that smacks of Jesus Christ being the Messiah.

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You know?

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Okay, let me do this on the Divine Council, and I might cover this later,

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but it bears repeating because this is an important concept

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when we get to the Tower of Babel.

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It's from Deuteronomy 32.

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And I've got the NIV.

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Does somebody have an English standard version?

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Oh, yeah, if you can pull it up on your phone.

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Deuteronomy 32 verse 7.

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And I learned to read this from Heiser because the NIV does some fast work with the translation

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because it's trying to soften the meaning of the text.

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So you'll see translators a lot of time trying to help us do our thinking for us

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because you can't handle the truth.

489
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,800
And of course Heiser says you need to read this verse in the ESV

490
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,800
because they actually translate it correctly.

491
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,800
Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations,

492
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,800
ask your Father and He will show you your elders and they will tell you.

493
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,800
Keep going.

494
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,800
When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,

495
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,800
we need divided mankind, and He fixed the borders of the peoples

496
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,800
according to the number of the sons of God.

497
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,800
And then one more verse.

498
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:19,800
But the Lord's portion is His people, Jacob has allowed heritage.

499
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,800
Okay, so a lot of heritage.

500
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:31,800
It's talking about God dividing up the peoples into nations.

501
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,800
Now if you read the NIV according to the number of the sons of Israel is what it says,

502
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,800
which is not correct.

503
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:49,800
According to the number of the sons of Benai Ha Elohim, sons of God.

504
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:57,800
Mine says, I interpret it as a re-separating the sons of a man.

505
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Benai Ha Elohim, it's the exact same phrase as you'll find in Genesis 6.

506
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,800
When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance,

507
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,800
when He divided all mankind, He set up boundaries for the people.

508
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,800
According to the number of the sons of Israel, then the next verse makes sense.

509
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:26,800
This verse is talking about God giving nations over to the gods they wanted to worship.

510
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,800
Which were different from Him.

511
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,800
And then here's what He says,

512
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,800
but the Lord's portion is His people, Jacob has a lot of inheritance.

513
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:46,800
So God, you'll see in the table of nations,

514
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,800
these nations are being disinherited by God.

515
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,800
And that's why right after Genesis 11, the story of Abraham starts.

516
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,800
Because God is giving these nations over to the worship of the gods that they want to worship.

517
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,800
But He's saying, Abraham, you and I are going to start over,

518
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,800
and I'm going to create a people just for myself.

519
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,800
Jacob is Israel. That's just a metaphor for Israel.

520
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,800
And so that's where God is going to start the reclamation process

521
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:24,800
from disinheriting the nations that wanted to worship these other gods.

522
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,800
Yes, sir?

523
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,800
Jacob then is the first official Jew.

524
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,800
Okay.

525
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,800
Then his 12 children are the continuation of the Jewish race.

526
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,800
So I guess Jacob is really the first official Jew.

527
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,800
Because he has the 12 sons.

528
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:48,800
He did say that Jacob is the allotment of his inheritance.

529
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,800
Jacob was a people and he was changed to the real name of God.

530
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,800
Yeah.

531
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,800
He wrestles.

532
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,800
He wrestles.

533
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,800
He wrestles.

534
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:08,800
Because God, when He made Abraham, Abraham was made to set up many nations

535
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,800
and here you've got the heirs, you've got all these others.

536
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,800
And they claim him as their father to this day.

537
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,800
So I think Jacob is the first official Jew.

538
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800
The first official Jew.

539
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,800
Okay.

540
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:35,800
So, we're ready to move on to the next topic.

541
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:41,800
Are we done with the Divine Council?

542
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,800
I don't think that's a test.

543
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:53,800
Now, you'll find that's relevant.

544
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,800
When it comes to the message of the Gospel,

545
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,800
go into all the world,

546
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,800
preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom, right?

547
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,800
And what does it say in Matthew 24?

548
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:13,800
This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world and then the end will come.

549
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,800
We're in partnership with God through Jesus Christ to reclaim those lost territories

550
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,800
and the people that populate those territories.

551
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,800
We have authority to do that.

552
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,800
This is one of the things that's very clear in the New Testament.

553
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,800
Jesus gives his disciples the authority to go kick out the usurpers and take over.

554
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,800
Right?

555
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:43,800
So, you'll see in Acts where the Holy Spirit falls and you see men from this nation and that nation.

556
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,800
Another thing Dr. Heiser points out,

557
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:55,800
every one of those nations mentioned in Acts is the same nations you'll find in the table of nations in Genesis chapter 10.

558
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:06,800
So, God is beginning the reversal of that disinheritance and that curse and God is reclaiming the nations.

559
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,800
So, it's a fascinating story, really.

560
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,800
Relevant to understanding the entire Bible.

561
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:22,800
Okay, what about the image and likeness of God?

562
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:30,800
The most interesting thing about the idols, and I've always thought they worship the idols.

563
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,800
What if it's in your front?

564
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

565
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,800
You should have soundtrack.

566
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,800
Sell them.

567
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Because all they were in an ancient's mind, they were an image of God that they could use to get to God.

568
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Right. It would draw their attention, their energy.

569
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:54,800
Which really is like when Aaron did the golden calf, I mean I've always thought of this.

570
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,800
He was trying to give them a visual to help them worship God.

571
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,800
I mean he was wrong in doing it.

572
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,800
I think that's what he was trying to do because that's what he understood.

573
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,800
Egypt's gods.

574
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,800
Right.

575
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800
Yeah, right.

576
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,800
Did what was familiar?

577
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,800
What could rally the people?

578
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,800
Boost the morale.

579
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:21,800
But that's again going back to what we read from John chapter 14 and 16.

580
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:29,800
When we bear the image of God, people are just capable of more than they think they are.

581
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:37,800
When it comes to the supernatural abilities, the divine energies of God.

582
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,800
And we know how Jesus used those energies.

583
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,800
Right.

584
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,800
He says, everything that I've done, you will be capable of also.

585
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,800
Where are we falling short?

586
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,800
Where do you think?

587
00:41:50,800 --> 00:42:08,800
You know, we've been so brainwashed with secular materialism in our public schools and our culture to disbelieve the supernatural realm that it's because of our unbelief.

588
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,800
But most churches we've been to, they don't even touch on it. You skip all of that part of it.

589
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,800
I didn't even know it was there.

590
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,800
Yeah.

591
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,800
And it just really quickly gets right over there.

592
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:26,800
That's such a mistake because you turned the Bible into this neuter document.

593
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:33,800
It's a mistake, but it's because of the abuses of other churches that either do it wrong or distort it.

594
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:42,800
That's another point. So even touching on the idea and using the vocabulary of other gods will trigger.

595
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:50,800
We'll say we'll use the word fundamentalist evangelicals.

596
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:59,800
Again, as distasteful as a lot of the things were in the United Methodist Church,

597
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:11,800
I prefer an atmosphere where we're free to think and let think rather than people who have knee-jerk reactions to things because they're scared.

598
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,800
They're scared of talking about it.

599
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,800
You know, so as many problems as the United Methodist Church had,

600
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:25,800
I prefer that atmosphere of thinking, let think to heretic. That's heresy.

601
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,800
You know, so they're afraid.

602
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,800
That's right.

603
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,800
They're afraid of the power.

604
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:44,800
They're afraid of the, well, let's just say it.

605
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:53,800
Because I've been in this world, the charismatic and gobbledygook, you know, and I am charismatic.

606
00:43:53,800 --> 00:44:13,800
So, but I also know that world is full of flakes, fruits and nuts, you know, and they're afraid of weaker Christians getting a hold of these ideas

607
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:23,800
and going sideways with them into like, let's say, occult stuff, you know, or...

608
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,800
I'm afraid. I used to work at a church camp.

609
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,800
Okay.

610
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,800
And one week out of the year we had a Pentecostal.

611
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,800
I mean, it was Baptist church camp, but we needed extra funds and we had an extra week.

612
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,800
Their money's just as good as the Baptist money, isn't it?

613
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:44,800
That's right. I mean, it was fine. So we didn't have to go to their service. We went to ours, but we could.

614
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,800
And I would go and I would find it very interesting.

615
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,800
But I would see people get so wrapped up in the action.

616
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,800
It's almost like they forgot about Jesus.

617
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,800
And that's what I observed. And then I realized why we did not push that as much.

618
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,800
So, because I saw he could be, which not that we didn't abuse other things as all groups do.

619
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,800
Right.

620
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,800
That really stood out to me.

621
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,800
That it was kind of put on, manufactured.

622
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,800
And that the people were putting their faith in that and not in God. That's what I observed.

623
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,800
Gotcha.

624
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:16,800
Maybe that's a false.

625
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,800
No. No.

626
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:25,800
They were looking for the...in the same way, and I was very span-ful, in that you walk an aisle,

627
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,800
and that there were some people that thought walking an aisle saved them.

628
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,800
That's ridiculous.

629
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,800
Right.

630
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:37,800
But there could be people that would look at the experience and they put their faith in the experience instead of into Jesus.

631
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,800
So, I mean, everyone can abuse this.

632
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,800
Sure.

633
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,800
Sayin' a prayer.

634
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:42,800
Right.

635
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,800
The Romans road.

636
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,800
If you'll just confess with your mouth and believe in your heart.

637
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
Well, that's true.

638
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,800
But...

639
00:45:51,800 --> 00:46:01,800
The authenticity of that has to be borne out with follow-through.

640
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,800
Right.

641
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,800
So...

642
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,800
Okay.

643
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,800
Let's talk about the charismatic thing.

644
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,800
So, I've said this.

645
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,800
You know, I've always felt like I was able to see where God was going with the church.

646
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,800
It's like, man, the church really needs this.

647
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,800
And lo and behold, five years later, there's somebody doing it and they're doing it really awesome.

648
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,800
You know, and it's kind of spreading like wildfire.

649
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,800
Like, I remember being in seminary, and I'd have those all-night conversations with friends,

650
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,800
you know, where you solve all the problems in the world.

651
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,800
And I was like, man, if we could just record this and share it with people, this would be...

652
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,800
Well, it's just a podcast.

653
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,800
That's what people do in podcasts, you know?

654
00:46:49,800 --> 00:47:02,800
And I believe the next thing, the next big project for the body of Christ is a full restoration

655
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,800
of New Testament Christianity, which entails three legs.

656
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,800
That's going to stand on three legs.

657
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,800
Theological orthodoxy, which is holiness of heart and mind.

658
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,800
It's both of those things.

659
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:37,800
Apostolic order, which is a body of believers that's connected in accountability to a higher office.

660
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Okay? There's order and unity brought to the church through a connection to established authority.

661
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,800
And then the last one is supernatural manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

662
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,800
Now, what I've just described to you is New Testament Christianity.

663
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,800
And if you don't have all three of those things in place, you do not have New Testament Christianity.

664
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,800
And so this is what you've seen throughout church history.

665
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,800
You've got churches or groups or denominations that do one of those things really well,

666
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,800
but they neglect the other two.

667
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,800
You know, like Charismatics and Pentecostals.

668
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,800
They get the supernatural manifestations and a lot of that stuff is real,

669
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,800
but it's like a bunch of chickens running around with their head cut off.

670
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,800
There's absolutely no order to it.

671
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,800
There's no theological substance to it.

672
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:34,800
You've got places like the Methodist Church.

673
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,800
We have an apostolic order established in an Episcopal form of church governments that's rooted in history.

674
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,800
But the power of God left us a hundred years ago.

675
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:56,800
And we allowed theological gobbledygook to creep in and we became apostate in our theology.

676
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:02,800
And then you've got groups that really made you on the Bible and getting their theology right,

677
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,800
but they're just not very...

678
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,800
They're not people that you'd want to hang out and have a beer with.

679
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,800
Right?

680
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,800
So I think that's something that God wants to do because you look at the American church.

681
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,800
It's the Wild West.

682
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,800
There's no order or cohesion to it.

683
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,800
And we have to...

684
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,800
I think we're going to go through a phase where we have to kind of reintegrate.

685
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,800
What is there?

686
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:39,800
The number is anywhere from 33,000 to 45,000 different Protestant denominations.

687
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,800
It's just...it's the Wild West.

688
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,800
And I believe before Jesus winds things up,

689
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,800
he wants to reestablish proper New Testament Christianity.

690
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:59,800
And a part of that is going to be people learning how to stir up the energies,

691
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:06,800
the uncreated energies of God, which are made available to us through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit,

692
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:07,800
through the Holy Spirit.

693
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:15,800
I am connected to that supernatural realm and I can manifest things that are beyond human ability.

694
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,800
But you have to learn how to grab hold of that, you know?

695
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,800
And so this is why I don't...

696
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,800
I don't turn my nose up too much at Charismatics and Pentecostals

697
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,800
because at least they're going for it.

698
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,800
Even if it's fake, at least they're going for it.

699
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,800
You know, versus people who are just completely uninterested in the power of God.

700
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,800
The supernatural power of God.

701
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,800
The gifts of the Holy Spirit.

702
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,800
So...

703
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,800
What did he say?

704
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:52,800
He spoke something along that line that, you know, you've got a power inside you that, you know, you need to basically...

705
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,800
Learn how to stir it up.

706
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,800
And that's...so that's the thing.

707
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:05,800
I know how to squeeze that out and get a sense of the presence of God when I pray.

708
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,800
And you can tell somebody who doesn't because they sound really boring when they're praying.

709
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:19,800
In simpler terms, isn't that though what he taught in the parables, you know, in the greatest and the most greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

710
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:27,800
He had all the disciples sitting there and they asked that because they were all gobbledy-gooby even back then.

711
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,800
And what did he do? He grabbed the kids.

712
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,800
And he said, no one's a traitor in heaven.

713
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,800
No one's an inter-gengal ever.

714
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,800
They don't like his child.

715
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,800
Who isn't skeptical?

716
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,800
In short terms, what you were just saying.

717
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,800
Who doesn't? Question authority?

718
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,800
Who is open to wonder and mystery and belief?

719
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,800
Yeah. I think that's exactly right.

720
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,800
I mean, that's what it means.

721
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800
Yeah.

722
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:03,800
There was a church standing there and they were still confused and he just grabbed the child and said, this is it.

723
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:14,800
And I think learning whenever you pray to refuse to come out of there unless you've really gotten in contact with God.

724
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,800
You know?

725
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:23,800
Refuse to get out of there unless you really have gotten in contact with God.

726
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,800
Just quit and move on down the road and watch Oprah on TV.

727
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,800
Whatever people watch on TV nowadays, I only watch YouTube.

728
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:43,800
Before you go on to do what you're going to do, it's like I am going to get a tangible sense of the manifest presence of God in my spirit.

729
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,800
And I can feel it. I know what it is when I feel it. I can experience it.

730
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:58,800
And it takes some effort. I'm going to put some energy into it.

731
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,800
You know, versus...

732
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,800
God, I just pray for...

733
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,800
Every sick person you can think of, amen.

734
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,800
You know? And that's how the body... that's how Methodists pray.

735
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,800
I've been to 100 different Methodist churches.

736
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,800
All the sick people we can think of, amen.

737
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:25,800
You realize there's way more to this than all of the sick people that you know.

738
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,800
I'd like to know that he knows what I want to say, and I don't really have to say it.

739
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,800
Because I'm not a good person.

740
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,800
This is why I pray in tongues.

741
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,800
This is why I pray in tongues.

742
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:45,800
Because the Bible says when you do that,

743
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,800
you edify yourself.

744
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,800
That word means to build up, to strengthen, to fortify.

745
00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,800
The energies of God are flowing to pray things.

746
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,800
I don't know what I need to pray.

747
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,800
But then also ideas come to mind in the process of doing that.

748
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,800
I get ideas.

749
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,800
Because that energy...

750
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:17,800
When I get those ideas, don't say, when did you say that?

751
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,800
Well, listen. That energy...

752
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,800
That energy, it bears fruit in your mind.

753
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,800
And it says that explicitly in 1 Corinthians 14.

754
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,800
I pray with my spirit. I also pray with my mind.

755
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,800
There are things that come to you.

756
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:40,800
It's not just your cells going off in your brain that become manifest in my consciousness.

757
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,800
Prophecy works the same way.

758
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,800
You're getting information from the unseen realm and some type of receptors

759
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,800
that your consciousness grabs hold of and you're able to communicate it.

760
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,800
Let me ask you this about tongues.

761
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,800
When you pray in tongues,

762
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,800
it's my understanding that if I just pray out loud,

763
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,800
then sighting and everyone else can hear it.

764
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:17,800
And as long as it's still within me, sighting can't access it.

765
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,800
Is that correct?

766
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,800
I don't know about that.

767
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,800
I've never really majored on that theme.

768
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,800
So the next part of that is...

769
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:35,800
So when we pray in tongues, it goes straight to the throne room.

770
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,800
And sighting can't touch it.

771
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,800
I've heard that argument made.

772
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,800
I feel like there's a lot more to it than that.

773
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,800
And when you're praying in tongues,

774
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,800
sometimes I feel right.

775
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,800
You're praying in an heavenly language.

776
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,800
Not in an earthly language.

777
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Because you get the tongue to be speaking in an earthly language,

778
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,800
but in an heavenly language.

779
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,800
It just means languages.

780
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,800
So like in 1 Corinthians 13, Paul's speaking,

781
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,800
he says, if I can speak with the tongues of men

782
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,800
or with the tongues of angels.

783
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,800
Same word.

784
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,800
It's ick so.

785
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,800
Glossalia.

786
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,800
Yeah.

787
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,800
But...

788
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:31,800
It's about learning to appropriate the energies of God.

789
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,800
Energamaton is the Greek word that's used

790
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,800
in order to manifest supernatural results.

791
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,800
So you know, the Bible lists all kinds of gifts of the Holy Spirit.

792
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,800
Gifts of miracles, healing,

793
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,800
words of wisdom, words of knowledge,

794
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,800
prophecy, praying in tongues,

795
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,800
the gift of interpreting tongues.

796
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,800
All kinds of gifts that the ones mentioned

797
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,800
don't have any natural explanation.

798
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,800
Okay, but the gift of the Spirit speaking in tongues,

799
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,800
is there a language, is that necessarily a gift of God,

800
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,800
or is that a separate thing?

801
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,800
Well, it says in 1 Corinthians 14,

802
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,800
whenever someone speaks in a tongue,

803
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,800
they speak not to men, but to God.

804
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,800
And so that's what we call prayers

805
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,800
and speaking to God, right?

806
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,800
And no man understands him.

807
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,800
Now, I do understand that some people recognize the distinction

808
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,800
between being supernaturally empowered to speak Spanish,

809
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,800
to Spanish-speaking people,

810
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,800
which is probably a real thing.

811
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,800
But we're just talking about a private practice

812
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,800
by which I can stay tuned up

813
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,800
in my connection with the divine energies

814
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,800
that are available through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit

815
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,800
to every believer, you know?

816
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,800
And exercising muscles to stay connected

817
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:07,800
and tuned up in divine power, supernatural power.

818
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,800
So...

819
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:16,800
I know what you're saying, and no.

820
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,800
Now, if that were to be...

821
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,800
If I were really getting intense about it,

822
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,800
then it's just a matter of me getting intense and feeling, you know?

823
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,800
And I do try and get a little bit of intensity every time I pray,

824
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,800
even if I'm just worshiping God.

825
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,800
I'm just like,

826
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,800
I'm just like,

827
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:35,800
I'm just like,

828
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:36,800
I'm just like,

829
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,800
I'm getting intensity every time I pray,

830
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,800
even if I'm just worshiping God.

831
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,800
I'm not being lazy about it.

832
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,800
I'm not letting myself get bored.

833
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,800
People let themselves get bored

834
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,800
because they're not trying, you know?

835
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,800
And that's why I don't understand...

836
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,800
I don't understand, Lord Christians.

837
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,800
I mean, I get it's hard,

838
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,800
but if you're bored,

839
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,800
you're not doing it right, you know?

840
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:14,800
And that's another thing.

841
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,800
You haven't developed your spiritual imagination.

842
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,800
You know, Jesus talks about giving them eyes to see

843
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,800
and ears to hear, right?

844
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,800
I'm not talking about your literal eyes and ears, obviously.

845
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,800
It's the faculties of your imagination,

846
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,800
which the Holy Spirit can paint amazing pictures

847
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
on your imagination.

848
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,800
If you'll just submit them to Him

849
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,800
like a little child with openness,

850
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,800
without skepticism, trusting God is moving and working,

851
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,800
He can paint amazing pictures on your imagination

852
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:59,800
that will get you excited about things.

853
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,800
So, you know, they used to say

854
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,800
that the imagination was the devil's playground.

855
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,800
So, you're not doing it right.

856
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,800
The imagination is the Holy Spirit's playground, you know?

857
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,800
And, you know, you have to have all of your paint sets

858
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,800
and art tools.

859
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,800
You have to have those accumulated.

860
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:32,800
But once you do...

861
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,800
I have a question.

862
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,800
Is that the name of the word that was said on the first?

863
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,800
The what?

864
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,800
The name of the word?

865
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800
I probably don't pronounce it right.

866
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,800
S-A-R-U-M.

867
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,800
No.

868
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,800
I'm not into prayer.

869
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,800
I'm just talking about that being in your imagination

870
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,800
and stuff where God be in my head

871
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,800
and contemplating God.

872
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Contemplative prayer.

873
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,800
It's 2 Corinthians 3.

874
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Beholding the glory of God,

875
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,800
we are transformed from glory to glory.

876
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,800
It's beholding.

877
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,800
What are we beholding God with?

878
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800
My imagination.

879
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,800
My consciousness, you know?

880
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
Are we done?

881
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,800
It's 7 o'clock.

882
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,800
What do we do?

883
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:26,800
Okay.

884
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800
So we're going to cover next week.

885
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,800
Thank you, Shannon.

886
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,800
The Dominion Mandate,

887
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,800
which will finish up chapter 1.

888
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,800
And then the Sabbath Rest of God,

889
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:46,800
which will cover chapter 2.

890
01:01:46,800 --> 01:02:08,800
And then we'll get into the problem of evil.

891
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,800
Yes, ma'am.

892
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,800
And then let's read chapter 2 as well.

893
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,800
Right.

894
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,800
I was not intentionally curious.

895
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,800
But I learned to take it.

896
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,800
Okay.

897
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,800
So here's my curiosity.

898
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,800
So are you planning to

899
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,800
expand this study of Genesis

900
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,800
beyond the projected time?

901
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,800
No, I plan on getting you're done.

902
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Oh, okay.

903
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:46,800
That's from the person that shows up at 10 till 7.

904
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,800
Are you saying that because we're...

905
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,800
I've been cleaning the kitchen.

906
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,800
Now listen, so just chapter 1,

907
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,800
that's a lot of...

908
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,800
We've been there a long time.

909
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,800
But once we get to, like, the flood of Noah,

910
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,800
I'm not going to spend a lot of time on the flood of Noah.

911
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,800
You got genealogies in there, you know.

912
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,800
So it'll...

913
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,800
We'll be able to do it.

914
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:15,800
Yeah.

915
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,800
Next Wednesday?

916
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,800
Next Wednesday is Ash Wednesday.

917
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,800
So we will not have class next Wednesday.

918
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,800
But, well, I'll probably...

919
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,800
I'm glad you mentioned that.

920
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,800
We'll still cover that content that I just told you.

921
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,800
Maybe let's add...

922
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,800
Let's add the Hawaiian what behind the serpent character.

923
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,800
And that'll give you two weeks worth of...

924
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,800
And Genesis chapter 3.

925
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,800
So that'll give you two weeks worth of Genesis to cover.

926
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,800
Is there a service?

927
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,800
Ash Wednesday.

928
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,800
It's a Methodist thing.

929
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,800
Tell me, even your first Methodist...

930
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,800
I don't know what we're doing.

931
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,800
I'll bear first with you.

932
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,800
It'll be like a solemn church service.

933
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,800
I'll wear my robe.

934
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,800
And we'll have communion.

935
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,800
We'll have altar time where you'll have the imposition of the ashes on your forehead.

936
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,800
And...

937
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,800
Six o'clock.

938
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:24,800
All about going through the whole work of Genesis.

939
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:29,800
It makes sense to do that.

940
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,800
I'm open to that.

941
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,800
I'm open to that.

942
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,800
Troy is going to start a class in June.

943
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:43,800
So we may consider doing that starting in the fall.

944
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,800
What's his plan?

945
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,800
He's going to do one on the articles of religion.

946
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,800
Correct. The 25 articles.

947
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,800
Which I know probably sounds kind of boring, but I'm sure the way Troy does it,

948
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,800
it's going to be...

949
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,800
I plan on going to the class, so I'm sure it's going to be interesting.

950
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,800
He's a really interesting guy.

951
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,800
He's going to do a class in the summer.

952
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,800
Yeah.

953
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,800
It's supposed to last six months.

954
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Six month class.

955
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,800
I'm going to be a minute.

956
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,800
I tried this.

957
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,800
You're sure you can't...

958
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,800
No, I need to do six months.

959
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,800
Okay.

960
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,800
He's going to do it weekly or monthly?

961
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:22,800
Weekly.

962
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Yeah.

963
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,800
Come on.

964
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:38,800
So in addition to night sweets, Ash Wednesday service, we're doing drop through at noon.

965
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,800
And then at four.

966
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,800
Are we going to do it at four?

967
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Whatever you tell me to do.

968
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,800
Yeah.

969
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:55,800
So we started here in COVID, and we have half of the people that came do not go to this church.

970
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,800
They went to drive through ashes.

971
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:06,800
That was a tradition, and then we get to pray over them and pass out blessings.

972
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,800
That would be a good outreach.

973
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,800
I don't feel comfortable doing drive through communion, but I don't mind doing it.

974
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,800
Drive through ashes.

975
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,800
We can do it for a couple of times.

976
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,800
We can work.

977
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,800
Work and what?

978
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Work and what?

979
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,800
Okay, let me pray this out of here.

980
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:33,800
Father, thank you for helping us to continue to explore the mysteries of God, the things

981
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,800
of the spirit, our own identity.

982
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,800
There is so much more to us than what we've embraced.

983
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Holy spirit continue to open the eyes of our heart, open our ears so that we can hear

984
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:58,800
and see in reality, in their fullness, the amazing things that is available to the children,

985
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,800
the sons and daughters of God.

986
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:15,800
So awaken in us our ancient and amazing identity and destiny as children of God.

987
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:25,800
So we thank you for helping us, helping us in our weakness, helping us in our unbelief,

988
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:32,800
helping us to let go of skepticism, fear of negative judgment, embrace all that we are.

989
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We thank you that you help us and empower us with your grace to lay hold of everything

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we are called to be so that we can do everything we are called to do.

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Thank you.