1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,360 Welcome, everybody. 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,080 We're going to get started. 3 00:00:19,080 --> 00:00:28,360 Let me open up with a quick word of prayer and we'll dive in. 4 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:35,320 As we always do here, Father, we pause a moment and just thank you for your word. 5 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Thank you for the spirit of wisdom and understanding that is present among us. 6 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,760 We acknowledge you, Holy Spirit. 7 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:47,120 We pray that your influence would prevail in our conversation, in our minds, in our 8 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,480 hearts. 9 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:52,400 We just ask for your grace and power to be present so we can see what you want us to 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:58,240 see, discuss what you want us to discuss, so that you can reveal the things about God 11 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,800 and His Son, Jesus Christ, that you want us to know and understand. 12 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,600 We love your word. 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,000 We love learning about it. 14 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,680 We love pondering the things that are written there. 15 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,360 So we thank you that you're here to assist and guide us as we explore the things of God, 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,200 the mysteries of God. 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,200 We love you. 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,680 It's in Jesus' name we pray. 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Amen. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,440 All right. 21 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,320 I just got done reading an interesting book yesterday. 22 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:30,200 It's called Decoding Gobekke Tepe. 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,920 So I would recommend this book. 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:40,080 It's a very good, interesting book about that site, that topic, and you'll learn a lot of 25 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,640 interesting things about things that pertain to Genesis. 26 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:50,400 It's by Aaron Judkins and Judd Burton. 27 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:58,080 And FYI, Aaron Judkins and Judd Burton were frequent guests on Mike Heiser's podcast, 28 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,640 PiraNormal. 29 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,240 So I think Heiser asked Aaron Judkins to take over that podcast. 30 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,240 So very interesting. 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,320 A-A-R-O-N. 32 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Judkins. 33 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:22,720 And Judd Burton. 34 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,560 And you cannot get a, come on in, come on in Carolyn. 35 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,120 You cannot get a Kindle version of this, that's why I have a paper copy. 36 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,880 So don't expect to get to read it immediately. 37 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:42,500 Now this is the author that I recommend quite frequently. 38 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:51,440 If you want to develop a supernatural worldview, which the book of Genesis is premised upon 39 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,980 a supernatural worldview. 40 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:58,500 It was a supernatural worldview across the board in the ancient Near East. 41 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:05,240 And so this is a book called The Unseen Realm by Dr. Michael Heiser. 42 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,960 Now this is quite a hefty read. 43 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,800 So if you wanted to start off on a lighter read, you could read the book called Supernatural 44 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,640 by Dr. Heiser. 45 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:18,560 That's like the, that's like the Cliff Notes version of this book. 46 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:25,240 But this book will probably change your worldview if you read it. 47 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:33,880 So I would say that's must read TV right there. 48 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:41,720 All right, let's, let's maybe do a little talking about our schedule for, we've got 49 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,520 12 weeks left. 50 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,720 We did our introduction last week. 51 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,320 We're going to start on Genesis chapter one this week. 52 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Now if you, did anybody here get a chance to listen to the podcast? 53 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,800 What podcast did I prescribe last week? 54 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Okay, here we go. 55 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:16,760 Okay, so the one that we're doing today is Genesis 1-1. 56 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,840 Let's talk about how we're going to do this going forward because we've got 20 episodes 57 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:24,680 and we've got 12 weeks. 58 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:34,520 And I've got like two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine episodes just on chapter 59 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,520 one. 60 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:41,240 So obviously I don't think we're going to use up nine weeks to cover that material. 61 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:52,320 Let's look at listening to, let's do the uncreated light of God. 62 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Angels, demons, snakes and dragons and the Maseroth. 63 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,800 It's three episodes. 64 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:08,760 It's like 2040, probably about an hour of listening time. 65 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,600 The Maseroth and prophetic signs. 66 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:21,520 The Maseroth is what the Bible describes as the signs of the zodiac. 67 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,960 The uncreated light of God. 68 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Angels, demons, snakes and dragons. 69 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,920 Aren't these good titles? 70 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,240 You think I would have went viral by now. 71 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Well, that's still possible. 72 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,320 You know, God's not done with you. 73 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,920 We'll hold anything's possible. 74 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,420 That's right. 75 00:05:47,420 --> 00:05:49,520 And then the last one is the Maseroth. 76 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,520 I'll spell that for you. 77 00:05:53,520 --> 00:06:01,520 M-A-Z-Z-A-R-O-T-H. 78 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,520 The foundrypress.org. 79 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Now, you could find them on almost any podcast outlet. 80 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,320 Yes. 81 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Yes. 82 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:24,160 So we'll cover those three next week. 83 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:30,560 So much good stuff in there to cover. 84 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:38,840 We've got the, you know, and all of this is foundational to the rest of the Bible. 85 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:43,280 When you go discussing the image of God, God created man and the image and likeness of 86 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:48,800 God he created him, male and female he created them. 87 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:55,000 What is the image of God and what are the implications for that in regards to the saving 88 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,180 work of Jesus Christ? 89 00:06:56,180 --> 00:07:02,280 These are important foundational topics to be able to think about and discuss. 90 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:08,040 So it's all very interesting. 91 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:15,320 All right. 92 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:25,960 So from the podcast, do we have any questions about that content that we assigned? 93 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Was it really that easy? 94 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,960 Did everybody watch it? 95 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,960 I didn't. 96 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,960 I'm going to give it a first look. 97 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Can you give us an update? 98 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,960 I mean, just a quick update. 99 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:40,400 I could give you the whole episode. 100 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,400 I got the transcript right here. 101 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:50,960 I found out that what you meant when you said it wasn't created in six days or seven or 102 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:51,960 something like that. 103 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,960 And I read your handout. 104 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:53,960 There's a lot of information there. 105 00:07:53,960 --> 00:08:08,560 Now, I don't I again, my position is I don't know how God created the heavens and the earth. 106 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:14,480 The reason I handed that material out is because you don't have to read that as a literal 107 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,000 six, 24 hour day creation. 108 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,680 You know, if you want to, that's fine. 109 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:28,080 But if you that's not what the text is intending. 110 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,560 The text is answering questions that a scientific worldview is asking, you know. 111 00:08:33,560 --> 00:08:40,680 So yeah, yeah. 112 00:08:40,680 --> 00:08:49,760 Well, if nobody did the podcast, I guess we can just cover that content real quick. 113 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,320 I can probably do that in a concise way. 114 00:08:53,320 --> 00:09:03,720 So Genesis one, chapter one, chapter one, verse one. 115 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,320 So this was written again, sometime after the egg. 116 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,760 This is edited and compiled sometime after the exodus from Egypt. 117 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,680 It is speaking into the predominant cultures of the ancient Near East. 118 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,680 All of them believed in the supernatural realm. 119 00:09:20,680 --> 00:09:26,760 All of them believed in God's. 120 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,800 All of them told similar stories. 121 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,440 Right. 122 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:38,000 And so the point of the point of view of the Jewish people led by Moses, their agenda was 123 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,840 to set the record straight. 124 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,840 These events we all understand to know and share. 125 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,600 You guys have your interpretation of those events. 126 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,320 They revealed the gods that you worship. 127 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,040 We're here to tell you that there's only one God. 128 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,760 He's uncreated in being. 129 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,560 And he's the only one worthy of worship. 130 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:00,480 These beings that you're worshiping are evil and in rebellion against the one true God. 131 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,560 And so this is what's unique about Genesis in the midst of the ancient Near East is it 132 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:11,840 is condemning those gods as being evil and unworthy of worship. 133 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,840 And the there's only one God that's worthy of worship. 134 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,840 So. 135 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:28,720 It seems that from reading the handout it all goes back to Hebrew original. 136 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,480 That was the original language that it was written in. 137 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,360 That's right. 138 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:48,280 So Genesis chapter one verse one in the beginning God created the heaven heavens and the earth. 139 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:54,560 Now one of the points I make in the podcast is that while it's debated as to whether or 140 00:10:54,560 --> 00:11:00,800 not this verse is teaching creation from nothing or creation ex nihilo there are other scriptures 141 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,880 that do teach that. 142 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,640 And this was interpreted somewhere between the third century B.C. and the 10th century 143 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:16,720 A.D. by the predominant interpretation is that we have this uncreated God who's transcendent 144 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,720 in nature. 145 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:23,680 He's not part of the created order. 146 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:34,360 Who is responsible for the heavens and the earth. 147 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 148 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,240 And this tells us something important about God. 149 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:49,840 If God is engaging in the project of creating. 150 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:58,120 When you are created in the image and likeness of God what does that say about you. 151 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,760 We are created to be creative. 152 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,440 Right. 153 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,760 Now that can manifest itself in a lot of different ways. 154 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,900 Some people are creative in business. 155 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:09,800 Some people are creative in art. 156 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Some people are creative in theology. 157 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:18,720 Good point that just hit me in the heart. 158 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,160 He created it with his words. 159 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,240 What are we creating with our words. 160 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,240 Because that's scripturally true. 161 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,640 And so many times if we would understand that we speak to those things that aren't as if 162 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,640 they are they will manifest. 163 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,640 You can speak to your sick liver and you'll get well. 164 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:47,560 That's the power that God gave us when he imparted the Holy Spirit into us. 165 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:54,600 The problem is that we as believers we don't take our rightful dominion and our right authority. 166 00:12:54,600 --> 00:13:01,680 But if he could speak to an animal and make it become then why aren't we speaking to our 167 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:03,880 children and making them become. 168 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,880 I don't know. 169 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:13,600 That's just when you were talking about creation I'm starting to understand so much more about 170 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,600 the power that we possess. 171 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:28,680 He gave man dominion over the birds of the sky, the fish of the sea, every beast that 172 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:29,680 crawls on the earth. 173 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:38,240 That means he gave you a mind and in that mind you could be creative. 174 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,240 It's in there. 175 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,720 But he said he created us to take dominion. 176 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,720 And when the enemy came what happened? 177 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,080 He took dominion over the earth. 178 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:53,280 So aren't we supposed to take that back? 179 00:13:53,280 --> 00:14:00,600 That's the message from Genesis chapter 1 to Revelation chapter 23. 180 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,760 And so that's I mean it's absolutely true. 181 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,400 How did God create? 182 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,860 God created by speaking. 183 00:14:08,860 --> 00:14:14,040 And honestly that same power is in us. 184 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,320 That's what prayer is. 185 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,640 So you hear me quoted all the time. 186 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Mark chapter 11 verses 22 and 23. 187 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Have faith in God. 188 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,600 I tell you the truth. 189 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:32,560 If any of you should say to this mountain go cast yourself into the sea and here's the 190 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:38,080 key and does not doubt in his heart but believes what he says shall happen and shall be done 191 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,600 for him therefore whatever you ask for in prayer believe that you have received it and 192 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,600 it shall be yours. 193 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,320 And so this is one of the things that's so powerful about the gospel of Mark we're going 194 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,680 to talk about this Sunday is how everything that Jesus had been doing in his ministry 195 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,120 he gave his disciples the same authority to do and they go out and do the same thing before 196 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,720 they're born again before they're filled with the Holy Spirit. 197 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Right. 198 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,400 That's crazy to me. 199 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,840 But they go out and do the exact same things that Jesus has been doing. 200 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:23,520 So so we're talking about the idea of a pre-existent uncreated God. 201 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Now I think I repeat this argument all the time because I think it's important that everyone 202 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:41,960 be able to articulate this in order to be competent in giving a defense of your faith. 203 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:49,840 The law the laws of science dictate that there is a first cause for everything that exists. 204 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,840 Right. 205 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,920 It's a law of science. 206 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,680 So in the created order in the physical universe everything came from something. 207 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Everybody gets that. 208 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Now typically people would would say well that doesn't solve the problem of where God 209 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,600 came from. 210 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,000 Where did God come from? 211 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,800 God exists and everything came from something else. 212 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,240 Where did God come from? 213 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:19,240 So what's your answer to that? 214 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:25,400 You know people say there were people before Adam and Eve but nobody explained it. 215 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:35,960 We could be getting to that at some point in this class Dandy. 216 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:36,960 Nobody has an answer to that? 217 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,960 I didn't even thought about it. 218 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:49,720 How do you describe the indescribable God? 219 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,440 How do you paint a picture of that and how do you explain it? 220 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,440 He's unexplainable. 221 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,440 He's all he's Omni. 222 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,280 So you tell me I want to know. 223 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,200 I want you guys to give me the answer. 224 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,480 Where did God come from? 225 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,560 I've been asking this since I was three years old. 226 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,560 And you know this is the thing. 227 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,160 You can remember little questions you used to ask when you were a little kid. 228 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,160 And they're profound questions. 229 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,920 You know. 230 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Brother Troy? 231 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,920 I want to know. 232 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:19,920 Where did God come from? 233 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,920 Yeah. 234 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,920 Are there just some things we're not meant to know? 235 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:22,920 I mean seriously. 236 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:28,560 We're not supposed to know everything until the time is right and he could tell us. 237 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,920 I still don't know what's going on. 238 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,920 I don't know what's going on. 239 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,920 I am that. 240 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,920 What's that? 241 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,920 So the implication of that is that 242 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,920 God has always existed. He doesn't come from anywhere. 243 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,920 Isn't that Einstein did time and space? 244 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,920 I mean you can't do that with that. 245 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,920 Space can't be. I'm not Einstein. 246 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,920 Space cannot be without time. 247 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,920 Space and time are 248 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,920 a part of the material universe. 249 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,920 Time is intertwined with matter. 250 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,920 And that's an important point to make. 251 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,920 So let's discuss this. It's important to be able to articulate this. 252 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:35,920 An uncreated, 253 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,920 transcendent, eternal being 254 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,920 is responsible for the creation of the heavens and the earth 255 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,920 and that does include time. God exists 256 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,920 outside of time and space. The law of 257 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,920 physics, the laws of the physical universe, do not apply to an 258 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,920 uncreated, transcendent, eternal being. 259 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:03,920 See, that was what I was saying. 260 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,920 That's why I relate that to God. 261 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,920 It's just there. 262 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,920 The laws of the physical universe dictate everything came from 263 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,920 something. The laws of the physical 264 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,920 universe do not apply to an uncreated, transcendent, 265 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,920 supernatural, eternal being. You understand? 266 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,920 He exists outside of those laws. 267 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,920 And time has no influence. 268 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,920 And so this is, I don't know 269 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,920 any refutation to that explanation 270 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,920 of reality, but that's what the text is 271 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,920 communicating if you go to John chapter 1 verse 1. 272 00:19:51,920 --> 00:20:01,920 You guys got this memorized. 273 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,920 I'm proud of you. 274 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,920 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, 275 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,920 and the Word was God. He was 276 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,920 in the beginning. He was with God in the beginning. 277 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Through Him all things 278 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,920 were made. Without Him nothing was made 279 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,920 that has been made. In Him was life, and that life was the 280 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,920 light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not 281 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,920 understood it. So we have 282 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,920 these ideas of the Trinity 283 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,920 in Genesis chapter 1. The Spirit was hovering over the face of the waters. 284 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,920 Right? 285 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,920 All partnering with one another 286 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,920 in the project of bringing forth the created order. 287 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,920 They were created by the Word, who is? 288 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,920 Jesus Christ. They were created by Him 289 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,920 and for Him. So, you know, 290 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,920 you were talking about humanity losing dominion, which they were given 291 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,920 later on in the chapter. It was lost by their 292 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,920 disobedience and rebellion, but it was recaptured 293 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,920 through the work and ministry of Jesus Christ. 294 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,920 The problem is, from the time of 295 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,920 Satan being given dominion, Jesus Christ so much 296 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,920 chaos went on and so much territory was trampled and taken 297 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,920 by the enemy that in order to take it back from these 298 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,920 enemy gods or gods or devils or whatever they are, 299 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,920 we have to be able, like the sons of Isk'ar, to be able to 300 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,920 discern the time and discern the spirit we're dealing with. 301 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,920 They knew the times and what Israel ought to do. Yes. 302 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,920 Amen. 303 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,920 Ah. 304 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,920 Let's see. 305 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,920 Now, God in the book of Genesis, in the time frame that we're talking about, 306 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,920 had always been revealed in general through the 307 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,920 created order. Romans 1 and 2 talks about that. 308 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,920 What we have with the beginning of 309 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,920 the book of Genesis is a God who's beginning to 310 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,920 reveal himself specifically through the pages 311 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,920 of Scripture. So everyone understood there was a God. 312 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,920 Everyone was trying to figure out who this God was, how to relate to this God. 313 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,920 They all had different ideas. Here is God beginning to 314 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,920 disclose himself through Scripture and through events, the events 315 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,920 of history, like the Exodus from Egypt, 316 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,920 so that he can teach people who he is, what he's like, 317 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,920 how to properly relate to him, how to 318 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,920 follow his prescription for being reconciled 319 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,920 to him, right? 320 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,920 And what's interesting is with the Exodus from Egypt, 321 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,920 God chose the most 322 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,920 powerful, most famous nation on the earth to defeat 323 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,920 with a bunch of slaves for the exclusive 324 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,920 purpose of making himself famous to all the nations. 325 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,920 Now, that's important because the books of 326 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,920 Moses came out of that period, 327 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,920 epoch of history. And so it's clear through that event, 328 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,920 and it says, God raised up Pharaoh 329 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,920 so that God could make himself famous amongst the nations. 330 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,920 And why is that? He wants everyone to know who he is, 331 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,920 what he's like, how to be properly related to him. 332 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,920 You know, it's God's desire to be known and to be reconciled 333 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,920 with human beings. He loves people. 334 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,920 He loves all people. 335 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,920 You know, based on what you said before 336 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,920 you talking about what you're talking about now, 337 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,920 it came to me that 338 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,920 when Moses went up in the mountain to get the 339 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,920 commandments, that's what he got, right? 340 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,920 But they said no one has ever seen God. 341 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,920 And lived. Right. Even Moses. 342 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,920 There was some big cloud over there. 343 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,920 But when he came down to the mountain, he was so full 344 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,920 of the glory of God that the people couldn't stand the radiance that he carried. 345 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,920 And when we're transformed, we should carry that same type of radiance. 346 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,920 Now you ladies are getting a little ahead of me here. That's going to be 347 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,920 the topic of the uncreated light of God. 348 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,920 But that's a 349 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,920 powerful idea. That's a powerful line of thought. 350 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,920 Let's see. 351 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,920 Let's talk about this idea. 352 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,920 I'm trying to look up the word so I don't mispronounce it. 353 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,920 The word, because when we talk about God, 354 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,920 and we're talking about what God has revealed in Scripture and through the events of history, 355 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,920 does everybody understand that that is a miniscule 356 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,920 of what there is to know 357 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,920 about an omnipotent and omniscient, 358 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,920 right? An omnipresent being. 359 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,920 There's more we don't know about God than what we do know about God. 360 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,920 And that's kind of an understatement. Right? 361 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,920 So it's called, I might mispronounce it, 362 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,920 apophatic theology. 363 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,920 I'm going to quote to you from some of the 364 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,920 early church fathers. Clement of Alexandria. 365 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,920 Yeah, that's right. Apophatic theology. Clement 366 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,920 of Alexandria lived 150 to 215. 367 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,920 He holds that God ultimately 368 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,920 is unknowable. 369 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,920 Although God's unknowability concerns only his essence, 370 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,920 not his energies or powers. 371 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,920 What do you think of that statement? 372 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,920 Have you ever heard of the distinction between God's essence 373 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,920 and God's energies? This is kind of an Eastern Orthodox 374 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,920 idea. 375 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,920 I mean, the power of the energy 376 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,920 when God was present, 377 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,920 the priest that would go into the 378 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,920 temple, they couldn't stand. I mean, 379 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,920 it just killed them. Like that. Because sin couldn't enter into that. 380 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,920 If they did something wrong, right. That's why they had the rope tied around there. 381 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,920 Okay, let's take it a step further. Let's talk about electrons, protons, 382 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,920 and neutrons. One thing you can see in touch, 383 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,920 and the other you can't. Right. But you can see 384 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,920 something animating the most fundamental building blocks 385 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,920 of the created order, and where is that energy coming from? 386 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,920 You know? And so there's a distinction 387 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,920 to be made between the essence of God. 388 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,920 God isn't some mystical energy, or some force, 389 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,920 like some Eastern religions teach. God is a person. He is a personal being. 390 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,920 He has a form. But his form 391 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,920 in his omnipresence produces 392 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,920 incomprehensible energy 393 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,920 or power. Now, 394 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,920 going back to what we talked about earlier, 395 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,920 all things are possible for those who believe. 396 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,920 Because there is an incomprehensible power 397 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,920 that is omnipresent that when we get aligned 398 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,920 with what the scripture teaches about this God, 399 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,920 we are aligned in mind, in will, in thought. 400 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,920 We can do the same things that Jesus did. He said, 401 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,920 ye, even greater things than these. Right? 402 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Okay, let's keep reading. 403 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,920 This is according to Tertullian, another early church father, 155-240. 404 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,920 That which is infinite 405 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,920 is known only to itself. 406 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,920 This is, this it is 407 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,920 which gives some notion of God. While yet, beyond all our 408 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,920 conceptions, our very incapacity of fully grasping 409 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,920 him affords us the idea of what he really is. 410 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,920 He is presented to our minds in his transcendent greatness 411 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,920 as at once known and unknown. 412 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,920 And so we can know God based upon what's revealed in scripture. 413 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,920 We can reveal God based upon him moving and working and acting on our behalf. 414 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,920 So we can know God in some parts, but the greater part of God 415 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,920 ultimately is unknowable. He's incomprehensible. 416 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,920 St. Cyril of Jerusalem in his 417 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,920 Catechol Homily states, for we explain not 418 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,920 what God is, but candidly confess that we have not 419 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,920 exact knowledge concerning him. For in what concerns 420 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,920 God to confess our ignorance 421 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,920 is the best knowledge. 422 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Now, well let me read you a few more quotes. Augustine of Hippo. 423 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,920 If you understand something, 424 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,920 it is not God. 425 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,920 John of Damascus. 426 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,920 He employed negative theology when he wrote that positive 427 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,920 statements about God reveal not the nature, but the things around 428 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,920 the nature. So here's what Thomas Aquinas would say, 429 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,920 one of the most famous theologians in all of history. The most perfect to which 430 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,920 we can attain in this life in our knowledge of God is that he 431 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,920 transcends all that can be conceived by us. 432 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,920 So you get the idea, right? 433 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,920 So even I would posit when we are using 434 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,920 statements, doctrinal statements 435 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,920 that are correct, like the Trinity, one God, three 436 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,920 persons. Can anybody here explain that to me? 437 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,920 Anybody here understand that? 438 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,920 We're using 439 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,920 the limited human vocabulary that we have 440 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,920 to describe something ultimately that is inexplicable. 441 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Right? And so it's correct 442 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,920 to say, to refer to the Trinity, 443 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,920 but we would be fools to think that that's 444 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,920 a precise definition for something that is inexplicable. 445 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,920 Right? 446 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,920 The word was with God and the word was God. He was with him and he was him. 447 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,920 So it's kind of confusing to our 448 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,920 experience. 449 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,920 So this is ultimately why 450 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,920 faith plays the key role in relating to God. 451 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,920 Okay? 452 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,920 We can't know with any certainty what or who 453 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,920 we are relating to. Now, Jesus Christ 454 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 has revealed to us what we need to know about God to be 455 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,920 saved. That doesn't mean that Jesus Christ has revealed everything 456 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,920 there is to know about God. Right? 457 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,920 We can't know with any certainty what or who we are relating to. 458 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,920 It is simply impossible for our limited minds to grasp 459 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,920 the vastness and complexity and holiness of God. 460 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,920 Every person is required to trust what they don't know 461 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,920 in order to relate to an unknowable God. That is faith. 462 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,920 Faith is to the invisible world what senses are to the visible. 463 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,920 Now, that's a statement from John Wesley. Let me say that again. 464 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,920 Faith is to the invisible world, the supernatural realm, 465 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,920 what the physical senses are to the visible world. 466 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,920 So we are capable of relating to 467 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,920 that world in a real, tangible way. You have the 468 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,920 organ of your spirit that has been imbued by faith 469 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,920 to relate to the unseen realm. 470 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,920 Okay? Now, I would pause it. 471 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,920 That's really the raw material of what consciousness is about. 472 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,920 You know, science struggles to define what consciousness is. 473 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,920 And I would say that consciousness 474 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,920 is our connection 475 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,920 to the resources of the unseen world that we can become 476 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,920 physically and mentally aware of. 477 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,920 Faith is the spiritual organ by which we can acquire 478 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,920 the knowledge of God. 479 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Now, when we talk about knowledge, we're not just talking about information, we're also talking 480 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,920 about experience, direct experience. 481 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,920 It's both of those things. You know, I know 482 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,920 plenty of people who have a supernatural experience of God 483 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,920 that don't develop holiness of mind 484 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,920 that come up with all kinds of whack-a-mole ideas. 485 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,920 I know people who have all kinds of intellectual knowledge of God that have never encountered 486 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,920 them personally in their lives. You know, and that's why with the Wesleyan tradition, we emphasize 487 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,920 both holiness of heart and holiness of mind 488 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,920 working together. By those two 489 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,920 disciplines, we can come to a knowledge of God. 490 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,920 So, by faith 491 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,920 we encounter and perceive through the contemplation of God and Scripture 492 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:05,920 the one who is ultimately incomprehensible. 493 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,920 Well, I would even take it a step further. 494 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,920 I mean, I went to Oral Roberts University. So, people that I know had a real 495 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,920 authentic encounter with God, and it did change them. 496 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,920 I would say, now I believe that he did. 497 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,920 I would say that I believe that he did. I can say that 498 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,920 I was with him when he received a divine healing 499 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,920 at a healing ministry. 500 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,920 But let's continue developing this idea. 501 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,920 Well, I mean, you've got Judas. 502 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,920 You know, but people who have a real 503 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,920 encounter with God, they're really changed. They do not develop 504 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,920 in their understanding of Scripture in conjunction with 505 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,920 the church. And this is the stuff that 506 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,920 heresies were made of in the earlier church. 507 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,920 You know? 508 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,920 Well, and I mean, to say that, we're being kind of productive here. 509 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,920 Because he says, when the one in the 99 goes 510 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,920 astray, he goes after them. So you can know God be up close 511 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,920 and personal and still fall flat on your face and walk in the middle of a cesspool of sin. 512 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,920 But that's not going to let you stay there if you really 513 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,920 have had an encounter. He's always faithful and he'll pull you out of that 514 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,920 cesspool. Now, not going to say you're not going to have a struggle coming out of it, and 515 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,920 not going to say he's not going to tan your hide real good, because he's a God of discipline, 516 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,920 he's a God of order, and he's a good daddy. Well, when we talk about faith, 517 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,920 I wish Ross was here because he is. 518 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,920 Oh, well I was going to say. 519 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,920 You know, 520 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,920 I said by faith. You know, my granddaughter, 521 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,920 she was in first grade or second, I'm talking about Ruth, 522 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,920 she came to me and she said, Grandma, I was coming down with a cold, 523 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,920 I was getting sick, and daddy prayed for me. 524 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,920 And I'm not sick anymore. And he has taught 525 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,920 his children to live by faith, not sight. 526 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,920 And faith is like a muscle. The more you use it, the 527 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,920 stronger it gets. And you know, it's like a muscle. If you try 528 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,920 and start off with, you know, professional powerlifter weights, you're going to get 529 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,920 defeated. You've got to start off with the types of weights that 530 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,920 your faith can lift and go from there. 531 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,920 I resemble that remark. 532 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Ross? 533 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,920 In Sunday school, we talk about 534 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,920 before you has been placed life and death. And when we talk about 535 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,920 the angels and we talk about having an encounter with God, 536 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,920 it's a choice if you're going to accept what God has done 537 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,920 or follow Him or not. And so to me, the greatest example of that 538 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,920 is a third of the angels were cast down with Satan. 539 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,920 Why? Because they made a choice to follow 540 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,920 Satan. And I think that's the thing that we 541 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,920 ignore a lot of times. It's 542 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,920 your choice. And God tells us in the Old Testament, this is Jeremiah, 543 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,920 before you has been placed life 544 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,920 and death. Choose life. 545 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,920 You don't have to choose life. Judas knew Jesus. 546 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,920 Judas knew God. But Judas made another 547 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,920 choice. And not just Judas all throughout history, not 548 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,920 recorded in the Bible. People have encountered God but chose 549 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,920 to say, well, I want to do it my way, as 550 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,920 Sinatra would say. When you do it your way, 551 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,920 there's a wide is the gate, wide is the road that leads toward 552 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,920 destruction. It doesn't have anything to do with the realness of God or 553 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,920 encountering God. You've got to choose to give it to Him, to follow 554 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,920 Him. Or you choose to do it your way or follow Satan. 555 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,920 So I think that's very, very important. It's a choice. And that's 556 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,920 really the key temptation in the Garden of Eden. 557 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,920 I know. Because when you're in bondage, and you're 558 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,920 ensnared by the enemy, many people don't have a choice 559 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,920 because they haven't learned the omnipower of God. 560 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,920 And sometimes it takes God time to work through that. 561 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,920 And they don't have a choice because they're stuck. 562 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,920 And the scripture speaks of it. They're ensnared. 563 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,920 And they need deliverance. 564 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,920 And so people say, well I'm saved. You may be saved and still need deliverance. 565 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,920 You can be saved and still be dealing with a whole bunch of hot mess. 566 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,920 And I can speak from personal experience. 567 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,920 I agree with you. It is a choice. 568 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,920 And you can make choices. But sometimes you don't 569 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,920 have the power, the strength, the knowledge, the wisdom, or the understanding 570 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,920 of God to be able to make that choice and stick to it. 571 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,920 Well I think this is another conversation and probably another 572 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,920 obsession. You might be right. Because Jesus has come so we have power 573 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920 over sin. So deliverance is available. So it's still a choice. 574 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,920 You have to choose to be delivered once that opportunity, somebody comes 575 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,920 to you that wants to pray for your deliverance. And the pastor talks about it all the time. 576 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,920 Walking in the supernatural power of God. Often times we 577 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,920 just don't walk in it. We just don't cast the devil out. 578 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,920 So we pray for the dead to be raised. So somebody 579 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,920 has a whole lot of choices being made there not to do the will of God. 580 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,920 Not to believe. But I'm sorry. Some of you guys know that joke about 581 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,920 the guy who's stranded in a desert island and God sends him a boat. 582 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,920 You guys know this? Yes. 583 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,920 Right. The grace of God 584 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,920 is free for all, free to all, and free in all. Oh wow. 585 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,920 That's John Wesley. I can't claim that I came up with that. 586 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,920 But the grace of God, 587 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,920 well it says in John chapter 1 verse 9, that light 588 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,920 which enlightens every man has now come into the 589 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,920 world. The grace of God is free for all, free to all, 590 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,920 and free in all. And 591 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,920 every person has to choose whether they're going to love the darkness or the light. 592 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,920 You know? I think all of us 593 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,920 have been stuck in bondage. 594 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,920 And I can say, I remember this distinctly. I'm in the eighth grade. 595 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,920 My cousin invites me to his church camp. I'm only 596 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,920 interested in what girls are going to be at the church camp. 597 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,920 I have no interest in being a Christian or following Jesus, but I am interested in what 598 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,920 men and women are doing. 599 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,920 And so I remember we would sit there in these breakout sessions 600 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,920 where there's the Sunday school teacher leading, and we sat there with our backs to him. 601 00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,920 You know? And then we're in the big meeting, and this is a Baptist 602 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,920 church camp, so you know there's an altar call coming. We're in the big meeting, 603 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,920 and this preacher's preaching, and all of a sudden he gives the altar call, and I can feel 604 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,920 a tangible tugging on me 605 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,920 and I'm going to go forward. And I dig my knuckles in 606 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,920 the back of that pew, and you know how it is. You just look straight forward. 607 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,920 And I resisted. And I succeeded in resisting. 608 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,920 That time, at that point. 609 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,920 But you have to, every person ultimately 610 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,920 has to choose, are you going to choose to love the darkness or the light? 611 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,920 And the grace of God will be provided or 612 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,920 affected. You know, the Bible says you can make a shipwreck of your faith. 613 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,920 Paul refers to these followers of his 614 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,920 that he claims have departed from him 615 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,920 and made a shipwreck of their faith. So you can build your faith and 616 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,920 strengthen it, which is how we acquire the grace of God, or you can make a destruction 617 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,920 of it, which is how we become 618 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,920 as the scripture calls, Ichabod. The grace has departed. 619 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,920 You know? 620 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,920 And in a worse state than before. 621 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,920 Yeah, go ahead Carol. 622 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,920 And the Bible says 623 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,920 sometimes someone can go into sin for so long 624 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,920 and to different stuff that their mind 625 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,920 has turned into a repubated mind. 626 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,920 Like the lady was saying, and what he 627 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,920 was saying, it takes more than that fastening, praying 628 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,920 and a whole bunch of prayers for everybody, 629 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,920 mommas, grandmas and everything, for them to come up out of it 630 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,920 because they can't find their way up out of it. 631 00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,920 So a son can just come out, but a son 632 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,920 it takes more than that for a son, because I deal with them 633 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,920 all day, every day. The son comes and the son stills. 634 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,920 And you know, and then 635 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,920 when I read the Bible about putting me in scripture like that, that sometimes 636 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,920 you know, when he doesn't let us know, hey, 637 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,920 it's time, it's time, when you keep letting him pass by 638 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,920 and you're doing the same ugly stuff that, you know, 639 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,920 he keeps saying no and pushing you away, then he just turns your 640 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,920 mind and then you just doing all kinds of stuff and you're not even 641 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,920 knowing that you're doing that. And it takes prayer 642 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,920 from the churches. I'm glad for about our church because 643 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,920 everybody be praying for the homeless and the people 644 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,920 and we see it every day. They may take a shower or whatever, 645 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,920 but their minds is... 646 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:03,920 You know, that's at the end of the day, how God works 647 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,920 is a mystery, how people 648 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,920 can make 180 degree changes for the good, for the better 649 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,920 or for the worse is a mystery, you know. 650 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,920 But there's no question 651 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,920 about it, the lifeboat 652 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,920 is the church. 653 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,920 Not all churches are created equal. 654 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,920 You know, and the lifeboat is 655 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,920 the church and trusting 656 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,920 that the testimony of scripture is right and good and 657 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,920 true is a choice. It's an act of faith. 658 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,920 You will never have proof before you believe, 659 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,920 by definition that's not faith. Faith is believing 660 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,920 before you have proof, you know. 661 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,920 And... 662 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,920 And that certainly applies 663 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,920 to some of the things we're going to learn about from scripture as we move forward. 664 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,920 Now granted, learning how to think about 665 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,920 these things in a way that is 666 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,920 congruent with what they're intended to communicate takes 667 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,920 discipline because we've all been so indoctrinated with a certain idea 668 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,920 of what history is, with a certain idea of what scientific 669 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,920 truth is. And you have to 670 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,920 kind of take yourself into a mode of thinking 671 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,920 that is ancient and different. 672 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,920 And... eastern. 673 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,920 Not western. You know. 674 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,920 Because there are going to be some things 675 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,920 that are given testimony to with more depth and clarity 676 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,920 not only in the book of Enoch, but in other ancient near eastern 677 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,920 literature. Where there are things that manifest 678 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,920 themselves in the pages of history that took things radically 679 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,920 astray. You know. 680 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,920 And we're extremely destructive in regards to what 681 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,920 God intended for human beings. Now let me say this. 682 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,920 Anybody here 683 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,920 ever had someone who got really upset 684 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,920 with the Bible because of like the command 685 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,920 to go into the promised land and kill all the men, the women, 686 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,920 the children, and the animals? 687 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,920 Somebody had an issue with that? 688 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,920 Okay. How did you respond to that, Brother Troy? 689 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,920 At the time, I didn't know how to respond. Because I was a brand new 690 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,920 in the faith. Brand new in the faith. And that was the first challenge 691 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,920 I ever had. An atheist told me, you know the God you worship? Killed men, 692 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,920 women, children, animals? And that's a powerful argument, isn't it? 693 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,920 And I had no answer. Let's be honest. That's a powerful criticism. 694 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,920 So how do you respond now? 695 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,920 Now? Oh man, that actually shows his mercy 696 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,920 and his justice. Because see, he told Abraham 697 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,920 beforehand, I've got a promised land prepared for you. 698 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,920 But the sins of the Amorites have 699 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,920 not yet reached the level where it needs to be to 700 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,920 justify their destruction. He already knew they were going to get there. 701 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,920 He already knew they were going to sit to the point where he had to destroy them, otherwise he's not 702 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,920 just. Right? Just like if somebody kills a family member of yours and the judge lets 703 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,920 them go, that's not justice. Okay? So he knew they were going to get to 704 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,920 that point. But he said, your people are going to dwell in Egypt for 400 years 705 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,920 until their sins reach that level and then I will bring you out and take 706 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,920 you there. He kept his people away until their 707 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,920 sins got to that point. And they brought that destruction upon their own head. 708 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,920 Just like any of us do. Right? And so that, Burz, actually 709 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,920 shows his mercy. Because he had all right to 710 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,920 destroy them beforehand, knowing all things, knowing they were going to get to that 711 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,920 point, but he didn't. He let it play out. He let them do it 712 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,920 to themselves. That's how I would argue with him. 713 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,920 Okay. Alright. Anybody can find any criticism of 714 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,920 that? No. What do you say? 715 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,920 Well let me press brother Troy. Okay? 716 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,920 I'm picking on Troy because I know he can handle it. So how does 717 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,920 that warrant killing the kids and the animals? Everything that you said? 718 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,920 Because they were in that bloodline. And they were involved in the same sin. 719 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,920 She's in the blood. 720 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,920 The animals? Well no, bestiality, what is that? 721 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,920 And that's what was happening. I mean, read the scripture. It's disgusting, but it's 722 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,920 true. Well what if the animal was a victim of that, not necessarily a participant? 723 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,920 Still got in the bloodline, right? The bloodline is where 724 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,920 all the power is. And if that bloodline gets contaminated, then what? 725 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,920 The bloodline of the animal? The bloodline of the human. 726 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,920 That's my question. I'm asking a question. It's a two sided question. 727 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,920 I'm not quite there on that. 728 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,920 I'm not quite not there with that either. 729 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,920 Because the stuff that you're going to be teaching me talks about it. 730 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,920 You already know what I'm going to be talking about. 731 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,920 So my way of thinking into this, and this is just off the hip. 732 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,920 Okay? 733 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,920 Let's say, say you're in a plane. 734 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,920 Okay? And you know this guy has a bomb. 735 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,920 And you know they're planning on, let's say crashing it, 736 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,920 they're building and it blowing up, whatever. 737 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,920 The person decides to ignite that bomb 738 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,920 ahead of time, and there's women and children on that plane, 739 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,920 is that righteous? It's collateral damage at the end 740 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,920 of the day is what you're saying. Right. Okay. It is a necessary 741 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,920 thing because it prevents greater loss. 742 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,920 So the whole point of what God is doing in Israel 743 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,920 is He's creating a salvation 744 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,920 for all of mankind. Jesus was going to come 745 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,920 out of the Israelites. Right? Right. And so He's establishing 746 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,920 the people, establishing His rule, and the end goal is to bring 747 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,920 Jesus Christ into the world to save the whole world. 748 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,920 And if these people's existence is 749 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,920 intermingled with Him, which is exactly what He told them, if you leave them, 750 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,920 they will intermingle with your kids, they'll marry one another, 751 00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,920 and their gods will entice you, they'll draw you away from Me, and 752 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,920 you will go after their gods. And so His 753 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,920 end goal was the salvation of all the world, and He knew that 754 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,920 corruption had to be extinct in order to bring forth 755 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,920 His purpose. So I would take it as a necessary. Okay. 756 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,920 I heard a priest say this once. Why does God allow suffering 757 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,920 and the priest said for a greater good, which goes right along with what you said. 758 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,920 And when I see suffering, and maybe the priest is right, maybe he's not, 759 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,920 I always go back to that, that I don't understand why there's a greater good because of the suffering 760 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,920 that will happen. Well the scripture says that 761 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,920 suffering is 762 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,920 an expected part of the Christian life. Anyone who would come after Me 763 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,920 must first deny Himself, take up His cross, and follow Me. What's the cross? An instrument of suffering. 764 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,920 Right? Because it is training us in godliness. 765 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,920 Now I am going to get around to what 766 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,920 you were talking about. Okay? But I want 767 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,920 to get back to what Troy was talking about. Because there's a quote I love to 768 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,920 repeat when it comes to things like this God 769 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,920 revealed in scripture, who's good and holy and just and right 770 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,920 in comparison with the gods of all the other nations, 771 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,920 executing such an order, because at the end of the day, you put your finger 772 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,920 on it I believe, we're going to see in 773 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,920 Genesis, God's good created order come completely 774 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,920 unhinged with sin and evil and corruption of all kinds. 775 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,920 The bible is going to say that every thought of the 776 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,920 every intention of the thought of man's heart was only 777 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,920 evil all the time. If God was 778 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,920 going to restore His original plans and purposes 779 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,920 for the earth, Israel was the plan. 780 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,920 And as one author put it, whenever a surgeon 781 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:03,920 detects disease 782 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,920 or cancer in the body, he does not hesitate 783 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,920 to amputate an arm or a leg 784 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,920 or any other part of the body to 785 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,920 stop that cancer from spreading to save the patient. He will go to extreme 786 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,920 measures for an extreme good purpose. 787 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,920 But I am going to get to what you were talking about as well. 788 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,920 Yeah. 789 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,920 Yeah, that's right. 790 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,920 That's right. Yeah. 791 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:45,920 Okay, any final 792 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,920 thoughts or questions? Okay, so does everybody understand which podcast 793 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,920 we're going to read or we're going to listen to? 794 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,920 If you go to the 795 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,920 foundrypress.org or you can go to fmchobbs.com 796 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,920 Wait a minute, go slow. Fmchobbs.com 797 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,920 Yeah,.org.com.net, it all takes you to the same place. 798 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,920 And then on the front page there you'll see a link to the foundrypress.org 799 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,920 which is where, now then you'll have to do a search 800 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,920 for primeval on that site, that's my sub stack site. 801 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,920 So if you do a search for primeval, P-R-I-M-E-V-A-L 802 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,920 it'll pull up all of those podcasts. 803 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,920 Just click 804 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,920 no thanks and it'll take you to the, there is no paid version, everything's free on that site. 805 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,920 So if you just click through that first 806 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,920 whatever it is. 807 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,920 They will be named 808 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,920 Okay, so you've got the introduction 809 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,920 which we kind of covered in the first session here. 810 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,920 Genesis 1 811 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,920 Sorry, 812 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,920 and of course on YouTube 813 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,920 on YouTube there's two introductions. 814 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,920 It's introduction 1-11 815 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,920 and then introduction 1-1. Oops, sorry I missed it. 816 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,920 Okay. 817 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,920 Yeah, that's not worded. So Genesis 1-11 818 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,920 is the series introduction. Genesis 1-1 819 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,920 is the first episode. And that's introducing the 820 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,920 unknowable god is the title of that. 821 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,920 And for anybody else that's a YouTube person if you'll just go to the Methodist Voice 822 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,920 The what? The Methodist Voice 823 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,920 and then on that page you just go to podcasts 824 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,920 and you go all the way to the bottom. You can link to that YouTube channel 825 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,920 No, I've taken that link off. Never mind. 826 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,920 No, you can link to that YouTube channel off the Foundry Press. It's on there somewhere. 827 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,920 So many different ways to get to where you need to go. Okay, here's what we want to 828 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,920 be prepared for next week. 829 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,920 The uncreated light of God 830 00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,920 and I like the conversation so I would prefer 831 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,920 if I didn't have to go over the content again. 832 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,920 Very good conversation today. 833 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,920 The uncreated light of God, that's an important 834 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,920 concept that comes from the Eastern Orthodox Church 835 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,920 Angels, demons, snakes, and dragons. 836 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,920 Now who doesn't want to listen to that episode? 837 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,920 Come on. Angels, demons, snakes, and dragons. 838 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,920 And then the Maseroth 839 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,920 and prophetic signs. 840 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,920 M as in Mike. M-A-Z-Z 841 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,920 A-R-O-T-H 842 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,920 And that is the Jewish 843 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,920 word for the signs of the zodiac, once again. 844 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,920 Now if we decide we've covered those 845 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,920 episodes and we didn't have enough time in class to discuss it, we'll 846 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,920 punt down the road and we'll see if we can cut another class. So we'll just kind of 847 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,920 keep flexing it as we go forward. 848 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:37,920 Okay, we good to go? 849 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,920 When's the expected end date of this 12 week? 850 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,920 No, it's a little bit further down than that. Somewhere in mid-May. Right around when school starts 851 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,920 is when we try and plan it. Or when school ends. 852 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,920 Does somebody want to close this in prayer? 853 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,920 Go ahead. 854 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,920 Father, thank you for all of your mercy and your grace. 855 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,920 For giving us the ability to see intellectual beings 856 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,920 and try to learn and understand you, Father God. And we know that the only thing 857 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,920 we can understand is what you have revealed of yourself. And we thank you for those things, 858 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,920 Father God. We thank you that you're a God who wants to reveal himself 859 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,920 and show himself to his people. Father God, thank you for the food that we 860 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,920 received and the lesson that we've just been taught. And Lord, I just ask that you 861 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,920 just continue to bless this ministry. Continue to help us 862 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,920 to understand and to discern, Father God, what you are trying to speak 863 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,920 to us in this time, Father. We thank you. We give you all the praise. 864 01:00:37,920 --> 01:01:01,920 In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.