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Hello and welcome to the first episode of Dating Log.

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Yay!

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Thank you for tuning in.

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I'm your host, Wyndham Juneau.

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I have spent the last month reaching out to single friends and people I know from all

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over the world and from all different parts of my life.

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It turns out a lot of them are willing to share with me the nitty gritty of their dating

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lives, how it's changed, what they wished they had, what they didn't like, how the world

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is changing.

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And voila, the podcast!

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My first guest, who was also the first available person for an interview, is someone who I

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met at a festival last winter in Thailand.

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We literally met at the top of a climbing sculpture.

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She's super stylish, she's a great dancer, she loves mango sticky rice, I'm pretty sure

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she ate 12 over the four days we were there.

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She's got a very kind soul.

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And without further ado, this is Flo.

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I guess currently, I don't know, in the dating pool of, of, of, in Vancouver, I, I guess

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I go by she hers for, for my pronouns, but I, I do also know I dress very, like a tomboy,

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I guess you could say.

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So it's also very confusing for people.

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So when the way I appear and then when I start talking, they're like, wait, what?

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But yeah, I'm currently, I am dating, but I'm not in the monogamous world of dating.

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I am open, whether it's non-monogamous, there's all these terms that as I'm meeting people,

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I'm learning these new terms.

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So that's good.

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What are some of the new terms you're learning?

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I think the latest one that I learned was, is like relationship anarchy or no, have you

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heard of that one?

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Something anarchy.

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And I was like, I was talking to them, like, can you explain like, what does that mean?

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And they're just saying like how it's, it's kind of like, it's more on the, in the, in

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the world of like non-monogamous, I guess.

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So it's like, it's not, you're following the traditional relationship, monogamous dating

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world.

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It's more about, I guess, whatever, I guess for me, it's like, whatever I would, it's

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putting in the way, what I got out of it was it was putting me, taking care of me first.

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And then it's like the dating part of it.

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So that was kind of what I got out of it.

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I was like, okay, yeah, I do agree with that.

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Like, I agree, like when it comes to relationships, like you should be taking care of yourself

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first before and everything.

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So I don't know if they were talking about that.

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Okay.

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And who told you about this?

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Someone that I met on Hinge.

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Cause you know, on Hinge, it has like the dating, not goals or something, like the interest

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or something.

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Can you explain Hinge?

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Like how does it work?

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What's the function of it?

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Yeah.

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I really, I've never used it and probably a lot of listeners have not either, or maybe

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they have, I don't know.

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So Hinge is, I guess it's like the friend, like the way I see it, it's like, it's a more,

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it filters out the weirdos from Tinder, but you get on Hinge.

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But a lot of times you still see the overlaps.

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I won't get it, don't get me wrong.

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But for Hinge, it's like you have X amount of likes per day and you basically set what

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your interests are, what you're looking for.

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And then it's very similar to Tinder when it comes to like X's and like, nope.

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And then the other side for like, yes, you're interested.

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And then that's it.

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And then it kind of like same thing if for them.

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And then if you two match, then like it's a match situation.

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So it's very similar to Tinder in that sense.

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So the two are very, they're similar when it comes to like how to meet up or how to

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get connected.

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And then I think the only main difference is the platform of your profile.

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It's more interactive than Tinder.

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So it'll ask you to prompt you with more questions.

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And you have to have these questions like to get your profile out there.

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So you have to have at least like three of these prompt questions to fill out.

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They're also interactive in the sense of they sometimes have like multiple choice.

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Like you can like interact as in like on our first date, we're going to go.

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But you get to create those.

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You get to create the things to what you want.

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And then there's the photos and the same thing with the photos if you want to like those

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prompts.

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And then when you get a match or when you are going through someone's profile rather

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than just having a generic chat box situation, like you can comment on those prompts.

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So it gives you like a lead, like it gives you something to talk about.

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I think I saw that on Bumble recently too.

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You can like compliment people on their answers or something.

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Yeah.

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So it's very similar then with Bumble, I guess.

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And correct me if I'm wrong.

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Is Hinge not the one that it's like you have to connect to your Facebook and then you can

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only match with friends of friends or is that not?

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Is that the Facebook dating?

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It's for dating.

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Yeah, it's for dating.

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But is it like Facebook dating?

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Because apparently Facebook has dating.

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I don't know what it is yet, but Facebook has dating.

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Facebook has dating?

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Yeah, Facebook has dating.

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For boomers?

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I don't, maybe.

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I don't know.

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I have never explored that button.

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Oh my God, I'm so curious.

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I think I'm going to learn about a lot of different dating apps on doing this, talking

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to people around the world.

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So you do Tinder, Hinge, and Bumble.

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Would you say that those are like the biggest dating apps in Vancouver for people around

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our life age?

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I would say Bumble and Hinge more.

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I think Tinder has kind of fallen through.

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I think Tinder, when I have come across people on Tinder, is more like the travelers for

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Tinder.

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That's just for my observations at least.

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But it's more Bumble and Hinge.

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I've heard of Field.

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People have talked about Field.

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There was like a queer one app.

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There's one for just queers for Vancouver, but I forget what that one was called.

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Like specific to Vancouver?

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Her?

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Her.

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No, no, no.

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Her.

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Her, no, no, no.

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Not just Vancouver, but I remember a lot of the queers in Vancouver use that one.

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Her?

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Have you heard of her?

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Her is the lesbian one.

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Yes.

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It's like for, let's say for women seeking women, whatever that means, gender, sex.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So there's that one.

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I remember that one.

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Yeah, I remember when that came out, like over 10 years ago, I was in Boston and there

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was nobody on it.

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Right?

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Have you tried it?

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I did try it long ago, but it wasn't a great one.

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I don't use it anymore.

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So yeah, for me, it's just Hinge now.

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I am curious.

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What is your radius set to for dating?

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Oh, it's in kilometers.

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I don't know if that's...

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I think I have it for like 20, 30 or something.

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So for Vancouver, that would be like, I think it's about like half an hour, 45 minutes.

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I think that's the drive radius for me.

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That's how far you're willing to go.

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For now.

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That's what I don't know.

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I don't put it too far, I guess.

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How long have you been active in the Vancouver dating scene?

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Good question.

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I think since like 2012, 2010?

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No, after high school.

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So that was 2010.

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So maybe like 2011, 2012.

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It was kind of like when I came out.

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And have you been in relationships as well?

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Have you dated people for longer?

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Kind of tell me about these last 10 years in the dating scene in Vancouver.

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Yeah.

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When I first started dating, I was in a relationship, but it wasn't a good relationship.

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It was like my first one, we were young.

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I never thought I was in a relationship.

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It was a bad one.

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So if that was...

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It didn't start off great.

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Got out of that one.

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And then I started seeing someone.

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That was when it was getting more into the...

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Like they were more understanding too of open relationships.

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At first, because we were still young and we started dating and stuff, but I was never

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fully committed to in this relationship anyways.

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It was just like, yeah, it's fun.

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I enjoyed the time we spent together, but I never saw it as a serious relationship.

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And they the same.

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And for them, they were also exploring the world of non-monogamy too.

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I did meet somebody else at the same time and they also met somebody else at the same

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time and it was great.

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So that was when I was like, okay, this is more of the field of the world of dating that

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I'd be more into.

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It didn't work out.

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We kind of drifted apart again.

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And then I was single for a while.

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I was more focusing on just me.

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And then since then, all the relations that I've been with, it's very...

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It was very clear to myself that it's not a monogamous.

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And so when I did go meet people and go on dates and stuff, I was very clear with that.

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But I also then learned some people say they want to try it.

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Absolutely amazing.

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But then sometimes they get a little bit too involved.

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I'm still aware of what my intentions were.

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Their intentions were like, yeah, I can try this, but then realize, oh, I can't do this.

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I'm still going to be dating other people.

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If you're not going to be okay with that, then maybe we should talk about this.

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And Liz was like, yeah, okay.

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And then since then, definitely more people.

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Now more people are on the same boat of like, okay, yes, they're also non-monogamous.

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They have other partners too, and for me, and I have my own.

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It's working out better now.

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How did you come to this conclusion that you were non-monogamous?

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Because it sounds like you've been doing it for a long time.

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Since your first or second serious, I guess serious, let's call it serious, it's longer

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than six months.

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You moved in at some point.

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How did you figure this out about yourself?

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And yeah, can you tell me more about it?

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I'm a pretty independent person, I would say.

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I know a lot of people are friends.

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They're very codependent on their partner, and that's what they need.

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And that's, I'm like, absolutely, yes, you do need your person to be with you.

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And I want your person to be there, because I know that's when you thrive the best.

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And for me, I know if I'm going somewhere, I thrive the best when I'm solo.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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At first I thought maybe it was the partner that I was with that I was just kind of like,

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oh, how do I explain this?

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I'm going to tell you a story.

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Tell me a story.

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So our group of friends, we have a core group of friends from high school.

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We would go to like a cabin, like someone's cabin, a family cabin all the time.

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And whenever we went, it was the best.

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And I would usually go when I'm single and everyone else is bringing their partners and

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stuff.

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And then there were times where I was dating those people.

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And then if you know what, they're going to come along too.

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I never enjoyed those trips as much.

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I enjoy my time on the island, on the cabin, when I can do my own thing and not have to,

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you know, think of something else or somebody else or something.

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I'm like, yeah, I'll do it.

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But it's also like, it's just a different trip.

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Yeah, I guess it was just always my understanding growing up.

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Being in a serious relationship with somebody was never really something that I've thought

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about or craved or wanted.

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Some people think this is like a bummer.

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But for me, it's like it's what I grew up with was like, you're going to you're born

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alone.

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Kind of like we're born, but you're always going to die alone anyways.

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I put myself first for everything when it comes to like what makes me happy.

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For me, it's like I am in a way of like eventually like when I do girls and I die and stuff,

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it's like I put me first of like, hey, like you want to make sure you're happy with yourself

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and you don't need somebody else to kind of be there to make you satisfied with your life.

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So that was, I don't know, that was one of the things that I had.

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No, it's good.

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I think being able to enjoy your time alone and be independent and do your own things

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are so important.

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And especially the older I get, like the more I meet someone, if they don't give independent

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vibes right away, I'm like, you know what?

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You have some self-growing to do.

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So then how does like dating factor into your life?

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You are independent, living your best life, doing your own thing.

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You've got your friends groups.

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Yeah.

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What, why and how does this fit with you?

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I mean, it's always like to have fun.

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I'm a very, I do like my physicals, my physical touch.

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I'm like in all those things.

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And yeah, I would say I have a pretty high sex drive.

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So I think when it comes to that world of satisfaction and pleasure, I'm like, yeah,

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I've definitely, that's why I would seek partner or partners because that's what I want.

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And the same, I guess for others too.

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Is this more like a hookup culture or is this dating culture?

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Hmm.

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More of a hookup culture.

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Dating, if it were to be dating, like I also won't say like, I'm never going to be a serious

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dating person.

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Like that is still absolutely an option.

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If that happens, if that comes, if that, you know, if the pieces fall and stuff, then absolutely.

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Like I'm not going to be like, no, I'm not going to do that.

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But like as for now, like with when I can date and stuff, then yeah, like this is more

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in line of what my desires and interests are.

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Yeah.

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So like for, I guess the big part would just be, yeah, like I do have like a physical side

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where I do like to have that fulfilled.

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And then when it comes to dating and stuff, like going with people to things like, yeah,

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I like going on dates.

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I think it's pretty, like I still like doing activities.

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Don't get me wrong.

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And it's nice to do it with somebody.

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Yeah.

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And there are some things where like it is nice to kind of share and meet people and

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you know, going on dates is still fun.

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Don't get me wrong.

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Like

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Have you noticed a change now that you've crossed the threshold from dating in your

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twenties to dating in your now that you're 30?

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You know, the biggest change I actually was talking about this with people, the biggest

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difference is when I am dating, the biggest difference that's coming into play are kids.

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Because now that people in their thirties, more people have kids now, like babies.

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And or like, this is just, this is just from the pool that I'm currently interacting with,

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but they all seem to be like moms.

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Are you sleeping with moms?

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Yes.

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What?

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Or just like the, the, the, or the question of like, would you date somebody that has

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a kid?

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That seems to be more of a, a frequent question now.

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Because before it's like when you're in your twenties, kids were never a factor.

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You know, like maybe another partner, sure.

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But the kids were never really a factor.

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But as people get older, like, yeah, they're going to have babies.

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Right.

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You know, they do.

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And whether it's, you know, they were, they were young and they had a kid with whoever

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they had, you know, was it whatever happened, but they have a child now, or it's they have

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a child, they have a family, but they're also wanting to explore the sexuality and their

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partners more like, yeah, okay, go ahead.

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Try that.

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I was like, okay.

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I'm intrigued.

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I have yet to like, well, that's not true.

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I did sleep with one mom, but to really see someone like on a dating app who is also a

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parent.

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Yeah.

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And I'm coming across those a little bit, a little bit more.

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So those, that would be like a main difference that I'm seeing now.

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Are there any other differences you notice?

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I guess now being in the thirties, age is more of a, something that I clue into more

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when someone is super young, but super young now is a different age before like dating

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someone who's like 19, 20, 21, when I was in the twenties.

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Sure.

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But now that I'm in my thirties, dating someone that's 21, we're in different life stages.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, totally.

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I agree.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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They could be still in school.

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They could just be finishing up school.

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They could be just entering like the work world, just maturity levels.

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Yeah.

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I found like the younger ones.

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And also when you think of it, when someone's 23, they're born in 2000.

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Right?

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That's unreal.

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So, I mean like 23, like there doesn't sound like a young age, but it doesn't sound like

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an old age.

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But it's also when you think like, okay, if you think about it, that they were born in

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2000, that makes it like, okay, hold on one second.

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They're born in 2000.

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Can I ask what is your dating range set to?

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What ages?

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Ooh, I think I have, I think it's like 21, 22.

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Because there are some people that are still mature for their age, sure.

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And then I think my range for the high up is like 40, 45?

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45 I think.

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How old is the oldest person you've gone on a date with?

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I can guarantee the number for 36 or 37.

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There are people that I have, but I didn't ask them their age.

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Did you meet them on an app or just out?

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No, on the dance floor.

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So I don't know.

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It was like, it was a go, okay, well, also I have a terminology of put it in the ranks

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for me.

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Going out, seeing somebody and dating.

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How would you rank them in the order of like seriousness?

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I think for me, I would say going out is like, oh, unless we're talking like middle school

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going out.

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Like, are we talking going out like once on the dance floor or like going out?

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That's tricky.

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Those are different things, right?

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But like, and everyone has their differently.

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But okay, if I had to like, for me, going out is like the lowest, most casual for me.

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Just like you go out going out, going out, hanging out, going out, seeing somebody and

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dating.

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Those two are like, some people always flip those two.

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I think again, this, I think context is key here because if I say that I'm seeing someone,

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it implies that I'm seeing them on a regular basis and that we have established some sort

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of relationship.

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Right now, I would say I'm dating, but what I really mean is I'm dating around.

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I'm dating everyone who wants to go on dates with me and I have not seen one person like

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more than once.

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It's just I'm dating.

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I'm in the dating pool.

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What about for you?

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I would flip the two.

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So for me, like I'm seeing somebody is more just like, but for me, it's like I'm just

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seeing them once or twice.

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It's not like the, yeah.

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And then dating would be like, oh, I'm dating this person is more serious, I guess.

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And just, that's how I perceived it.

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Do you talk about, well, let me ask this question first.

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Do you have other friends around you who are also dating slash seeing people slash going

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out, whatever it is.

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That's another difference in the thirties in my friend group.

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One is either in a long term serious committed relationship, engaged or married.

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And they're, they're now entering the world of babies now as well.

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There's like two of my friends just had their babies like within there are like two blitz

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right now.

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So yeah, so my friend group, they're all in serious relationships.

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No one, so yeah, no one is really, no one's single.

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Does that make you the hot single friend?

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They always like my stories.

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They always like to live through me.

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They like to hear what's going on.

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So yes.

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How is that for you to be the only one like in your friend group who is not doing those

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things?

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So follow up side question, I guess, are all of your friends like heteronormative?

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Most are one friend, two are, I guess, two females.

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They have a baby.

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One guy, actually there is one guy.

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He is single and dating.

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He's bi and the rest majority of the other eight, I guess, are all in hetero relationships.

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Yeah.

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What was your first question again?

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I asked you how it is to be like the only single one among your friends.

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You said they're living through you.

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Oh, how do I feel about that or something?

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Like being like the only single?

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Yeah, like how does it, yeah, how does it make you feel to be like the single one in

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that group?

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I don't really realize it.

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I mean, I think it's fun.

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I'm still having, I'm enjoying the time.

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So do I feel pressured to, you know, settle down on stuff?

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No.

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Yeah, I think they all like see it the same way too, because they understand like my,

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they've all seen my relationships.

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They've seen me the highs and lows and they know where I am now in my life and my career

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and stuff.

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Like I'm enjoying life right now.

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Yeah.

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I like the no strings attached.

427
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I'm going somewhere.

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I have the freedom.

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I don't have to think about or worry about or check in with somebody all the time.

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It's like, no, I can just, for me, I like to just fall off the grid and just boom, bye.

431
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I guess I'm still trying to figure out from my own mental gymnastics how many people you're

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dating.

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But if I asked you, who are you dating right now?

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What would you say?

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See, that's what we're at.

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So when you say dating, that's my term.

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I don't say it dating because dating is high up there.

438
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Who am I like seeing hanging out?

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I guess right now there's two people, but it's the different part is that, you know

440
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how I said they travel right now.

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It's like someone's down in the States with their partner situation, but we're still in

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touch.

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But they're in the background right now versus when someone's in Vancouver or in the city,

444
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they're more in the foreground.

445
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I guess I'm supposed to like, so I don't know if that answers your question.

446
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Who am I seeing?

447
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How many people am I seeing?

448
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Two, three?

449
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I don't know.

450
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It'll be different next month.

451
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Like in May, I have people coming up, like someone coming up from California.

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That's somebody else.

453
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So it's like, it's hard to give it a number.

454
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Okay.

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Let me ask you, what do you find the most enjoyable about seeing people hanging out

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with people in a more than friendship way, let's say?

457
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Can we define it like that?

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I mean, the conversations are always interesting because as we get older, we're more open with

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what we like and what we don't like and like, and everything.

460
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So I guess like, you know, the conversations are always fun, but it's always like the activities

461
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of whatever we're doing.

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Whether it's like playing tour guide in the city again and kind of exploring things and

463
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just being able to have like funny conversations, being really free flowing.

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And I guess for me, a big part is like, I smoke a lot of weed.

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And so that's a big part.

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Like, I don't know, like for me, it's, you know, people will go out for drinks and stuff,

467
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right?

468
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Like socialize to go out for a drink, but for me, I don't drink.

469
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But I smoke a lot of weed.

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And so when that happens, when we go on these smoke walks and we end up at places, it's

471
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just kind of, I get very adventurous and outgoing when these dates happen.

472
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So I, honestly, I don't know what happens, but it's usually a good time.

473
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So the fun and the spontaneity.

474
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Yeah.

475
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And I love how you just called it a smoke walk.

476
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I have never once thought to invite someone for a smoke walk.

477
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,600
I love smoke walks.

478
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It's a super simple thing, but when you're on a smoke walk, everything is elevated and

479
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you just get more appreciative of where you are.

480
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And if they're down with it too, like they also see it too.

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And sometimes they're like, damn, like I never, they see things differently a little bit when

482
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you slow it down and you kind of, I don't know, I'm very appreciative when I go on things.

483
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So I like that.

484
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Okay.

485
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What do you find the most challenging about dating?

486
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I guess when it comes to the world of the dating apps, the challenging part is that

487
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commitment to actually meet up.

488
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Yeah, I guess it's like friend and suss out like, Hey, is this actually going to be like,

489
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,200
are we actually going to find the time to hang out, meet up?

490
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,320
Scheduling is always different.

491
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,780
I feel like there's a time, there is a, there is a window.

492
00:27:56,780 --> 00:28:00,160
There's a time when like a timeframe when you are on these dating apps.

493
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Sometimes that conversation, if it's like, okay, you meet, you meet, you connect, you

494
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,560
figure out a time, like a date or something.

495
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,560
That's awesome.

496
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,800
But if you, if it's too long, it's too much, not no sustenance conversation, it's just

497
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,800
going to fizzle out.

498
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:24,560
And if you don't have that time to go in and actually meet up, um, then that's difficult.

499
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,280
And I guess for me, it'd just be like scheduling wise, right?

500
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:36,160
The side one is now that I've learned is, uh, when it comes to the world of, uh, moms

501
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:42,680
and kids is you have to, they have, there's a babysitter now, now they have to come into

502
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,200
play.

503
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,760
There's a third person, right?

504
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,560
You can't just believe.

505
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,240
And for me, I'm a very spontaneous person.

506
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,240
I'm like, Hey, let's meet up.

507
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,900
No, I can't anymore because it's like, Oh, there's a third person that I have to think

508
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:59,360
about on the background, which is the babysitter.

509
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,160
That sounds like a challenge to me.

510
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,000
Can I ask when is your next date?

511
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Do you want to call it?

512
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Do you call them dates if you're not dating them?

513
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,640
Yeah, I'd say it's more of a hangout.

514
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,720
I'm a very casual person when it comes to that.

515
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,520
It's more of a hangout.

516
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:24,320
Um, it's supposed to be tomorrow, kind of, but I kind of have other plans that I would

517
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320
rather do right now in Vancouver.

518
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,480
It's getting sunnier now.

519
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,680
It's beach season for me on all of my days off.

520
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,200
I go down to this beach, rec beach.

521
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,560
It's a nude beach.

522
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,560
It's a great place.

523
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,240
It's just a really fun beach.

524
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Like rec beach is like my happy place and the sun's out this weekend and everyone's,

525
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,880
it's going to be like, everyone's going to be coming back down to the beach after a winter

526
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,240
season and it's going to be, it's so that's my plan for tomorrow.

527
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,960
So, and if she wants to come over whenever she can, because usually I think she has to

528
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,640
wait till the baby goes or till the kid goes down, like goes to sleep before she can come

529
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,640
out.

530
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,640
Yeah.

531
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,840
So it's out there.

532
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,880
I said where I'll be if she wants to come join me.

533
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Absolutely.

534
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,680
If not, yeah, I'll be down on the beach.

535
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,000
So that's the plan that they said they want to come over, but I'm like, well, if you want

536
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,000
to, sure.

537
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
If not, no.

538
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:29,480
Do you have any advice or words of wisdom you want to leave listeners with about dating

539
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,480
or seeing people slash hanging out?

540
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,240
A philosophy.

541
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,080
Do you have like a dating philosophy or approach?

542
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,920
I don't have a dating philosophy, but I do have a question, like a big question I like

543
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,920
asking people.

544
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:46,920
Okay.

545
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400
It's a hypothetical.

546
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,120
Right now in your life for two million dollars.

547
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,240
Okay.

548
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Right now for 365 days, you ghost everybody in your life.

549
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,360
You are off the grid.

550
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,400
You cannot connect to anybody in your life for 365 days.

551
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,880
No contact, no communication, nothing left behind.

552
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,880
You're just gone.

553
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,040
You can go off into the jungle, into your own happy world.

554
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,800
You are still fine, but you just cannot contact anybody.

555
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:20,080
But when you come back, you get that two million dollars and you can share everything.

556
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,080
You can tell them, by the way, I'm sorry, I'm fine.

557
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,440
I was gone for a year, but I had to do it for two million dollars.

558
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,960
Would you do it?

559
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Right now just pick up and leave and ghost.

560
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:41,400
They'd probably think I was dead.

561
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,400
I don't know though.

562
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,880
The problem with me is I'm not so driven by money.

563
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:49,880
I like my friends.

564
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,040
I like my life.

565
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,040
So you wouldn't do it?

566
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,040
I don't think so.

567
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,920
I would be worried like my grandma would have a heart attack and then she would die and

568
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:09,040
then I'd miss the funeral and people would be pretty pissed if I just up and ghosted

569
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,080
and left all my shit everywhere.

570
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,080
Would you do it?

571
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,080
Yeah.

572
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:20,560
When I was asked that question, right away I was like, yes.

573
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,360
Because this is true independence.

574
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Yeah.

575
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,160
I'll be like, yeah.

576
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,720
And it's like, yeah, it's only a year.

577
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,720
It can be a while, but it's a year and you come back and during that year you're fine.

578
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,640
And yes, you might have, your parents might worry, your grandma might worry.

579
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:44,120
I don't know, for me, I guess my independence in life so far is pretty dependent that they'll

580
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,120
probably like, oh, she's probably off doing something.

581
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,760
She'll be back.

582
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,400
I'm going to ask that one from now on.

583
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,920
It's a good one because it shares a lot, I guess.

584
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,520
I don't know if you are dating someone that is dating somebody else.

585
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,600
It might be a different situation.

586
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:07,800
Because a lot of times it's their partner that they, it's their partner that is, who

587
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880
they worry about the most.

588
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,880
It's like a character question but phrased as a game show or something.

589
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,880
Yeah.

590
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,880
I like that.

591
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680
But yeah, dating advice, I don't know.

592
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Be open, be funny, be spontaneous.

593
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:32,280
That's my thing.

594
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,280
All right, that was episode one.

595
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:42,720
If you liked it, please metaphorically swipe right or super like, say yes, that is subscribe

596
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,720
wherever you listen.

597
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,400
We'll be back in a couple of weeks with episode two.

598
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:53,840
In the meantime, tell your friends, keep going on dates, keep sharing your stories and I'm

599
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,080
looking forward to seeing you here next time.

600
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,880
Dating Log is recorded and hosted by me, Wyndon Juneau.

601
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,040
It is produced by Harry Dark.

602
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,520
You can follow us on Instagram at datinglogpodcast.

603
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,560
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604
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,640
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605
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,480
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606
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,360
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