1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,400 I'm Jonathan and I'm left of center. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,000 And I'm Rich and I tend to lean a little bit more 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,360 to the right, but the bottom line is, is together, 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,160 we try to look for the balance of what it means 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,860 to be human in today's world. 6 00:00:11,860 --> 00:00:17,360 All right, let's get started everyone. 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,620 Welcome to Living in the Matrix. 8 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:20,520 I'm Jonathan, this is my co-host Rich. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Say hello, Rich. 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,140 Hey everybody, great to be back 11 00:00:23,140 --> 00:00:24,960 and great to have Cleburne back again. 12 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,440 I think this is our third time together, Cleburne, 13 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,640 if I'm not mistaken, right? 14 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,200 Yeah, yeah, third time, thanks guys for inviting me back. 15 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Awesome, absolutely. 16 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,220 So to everyone, just to introduce those 17 00:00:37,220 --> 00:00:39,960 who haven't met Cleburne, this is Cleburne Walker. 18 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Very good friend of ours, we have had some 19 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,160 of the best conversations on this podcast with him. 20 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:48,420 And Cleburne is one of the most insightful people 21 00:00:48,420 --> 00:00:51,260 I think we've had on, in terms of really understanding 22 00:00:51,260 --> 00:00:54,480 what's going on spiritually and energetically. 23 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,360 And we just thought we'd invite him on today 24 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,720 to have an open conversation. 25 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,020 Welcome brother, it's wonderful to have you back. 26 00:01:02,020 --> 00:01:03,400 What do you guys got going on today? 27 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,680 Like what's coming up in your world at the moment? 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,320 So just so you know, we just went 29 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,440 to an ayahuasca retreat two weeks ago. 30 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,540 And on Friday we actually recorded with, 31 00:01:15,540 --> 00:01:18,520 we were just talking about opening the third eye 32 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,800 before we came here. 33 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,200 And Rich actually had an interesting conversation 34 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,720 around your breathing process to open that up. 35 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,400 But he was talking about a process that you had. 36 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Rich, you wanna share that? 37 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,640 Well, obviously we have DMT naturally in our body, right? 38 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,700 So, and going back to what I'm doing today, Cleburne, 39 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:39,840 it's very superficial, but it is the first 40 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,000 opening weekend of football. 41 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,320 So I'm excited about that. 42 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,800 So I've got that on the background. 43 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,160 So a lot of people have talked about the pineal gland. 44 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,500 Dr. Joe's talked about it. 45 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:54,400 You can see this pine cone shaped thing 46 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,240 in ancient antiquity, right? 47 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,640 The Assyrians had it, the Egyptians had it. 48 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,480 You've talked about how you activated 49 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,760 through the Christ oil, right? 50 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Through the sacrum and the breathing 51 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,480 and pushing it up into the pineal gland. 52 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,120 I've seen a lot of different people 53 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,280 try to use similar kinds of techniques. 54 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,440 Some involve a lot of heavy breathing. 55 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,780 Some actually just involve more of a clenching. 56 00:02:18,780 --> 00:02:21,280 Can you, and I've seen Breck, 57 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,400 I think try to do it in a different framework 58 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,800 where he does it just more of as a physiological process. 59 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,080 I don't even know if he hits it for something else, 60 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,480 but I saw a gal who, for instance, 61 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,040 came back from Dr. Joe, she's standing, 62 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,920 just kind of hanging out and just showing a person 63 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,440 how you might do that. 64 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,640 And yet you've also talked about using 65 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,360 a particular astrological sign. 66 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,480 So whatever your sign is, your sun sign is, 67 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:43,760 wait till the moon is there. 68 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,000 So I guess what we're trying to get at is, 69 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,320 can you flesh that out a little bit more in terms of, 70 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,860 because I think by your activating your pineal gland, 71 00:02:50,860 --> 00:02:52,760 you've tapped into some stuff like this antenna. 72 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,580 You've talked about this. 73 00:02:53,580 --> 00:02:58,360 You've got insights and wisdom that come to you 74 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,000 and you impart that. 75 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,040 And it seems like everybody's got 76 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,580 their own way of doing things. 77 00:03:03,580 --> 00:03:06,280 I think the source is big enough for everybody 78 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,400 to tap into it in their own way. 79 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,240 But can you tap into that a little bit more, 80 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,680 describe how this is working for you 81 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,840 and what's been significant in your life 82 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,700 over the last few months since we've chatted last? 83 00:03:17,700 --> 00:03:19,380 That's a big lot of questions. 84 00:03:19,380 --> 00:03:21,420 Yeah, the last one we might have to circle back to, 85 00:03:21,420 --> 00:03:23,500 what's been going on in my world. 86 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:24,820 But the question you're asking, 87 00:03:24,820 --> 00:03:26,820 how to observe the Christ oil practice, 88 00:03:26,820 --> 00:03:28,540 which is effectively how to, 89 00:03:29,860 --> 00:03:33,980 it's all about returning to union with God, with source, 90 00:03:33,980 --> 00:03:38,980 with becoming one to where your will 91 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:42,060 and God's will can become indistinguishable. 92 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:44,220 Like there stops feeling like a separation 93 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:46,700 between you and God, not because the ego has been 94 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:49,220 determined itself to be the God of your life 95 00:03:49,220 --> 00:03:54,220 so that you might have a more pleasant worldly experience, 96 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:58,700 which looks a lot like hedonism and narcissism 97 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:00,100 and all that kind of stuff. 98 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:05,100 But how to be more one with God, 99 00:04:05,100 --> 00:04:07,700 which reduces the feeling of that someday 100 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:10,180 or in some other place or in some other plane of existence. 101 00:04:10,180 --> 00:04:13,300 It's right here, right now, always all the time. 102 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:15,740 And this illusion of the human experience 103 00:04:15,740 --> 00:04:20,740 is what's fleeting, is what's just being experienced, 104 00:04:21,620 --> 00:04:25,260 but it's not as real as the fact that me and God 105 00:04:25,260 --> 00:04:27,340 are inseparable eternally. 106 00:04:27,340 --> 00:04:31,140 There is no me and God, it's one thing, right? 107 00:04:32,580 --> 00:04:35,380 And then doing that in a way that allows you to be 108 00:04:35,380 --> 00:04:39,180 of service, of surrender, of being something 109 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:42,540 of an open channel through your lived human experience. 110 00:04:42,540 --> 00:04:47,540 But how to, when people start getting into the pineal gland, 111 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:50,260 the sacred Christ or practice all this kind of stuff, 112 00:04:50,260 --> 00:04:52,780 this is sort of like them becoming aware 113 00:04:52,780 --> 00:04:57,780 of a higher curriculum through the spiritual school 114 00:04:58,980 --> 00:05:00,940 on the earth plane, right? 115 00:05:00,940 --> 00:05:03,140 If you guys have ever heard me talk about before, 116 00:05:03,140 --> 00:05:06,620 there's kind of some basic levels of ascension. 117 00:05:06,620 --> 00:05:10,060 And on one of them, what happens is people have to realize 118 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:13,660 they don't change the world, you know what I mean? 119 00:05:13,660 --> 00:05:15,180 The world as they have perceived it, 120 00:05:15,180 --> 00:05:19,140 people tend to not want to feel like 121 00:05:19,140 --> 00:05:21,540 they're leaving things undone or leaving the world 122 00:05:21,540 --> 00:05:25,340 as a mess when what they will eventually start to realize 123 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:28,140 is that was just a grade level, a level of perception 124 00:05:28,140 --> 00:05:31,340 and experience that remains the same, like a classroom, 125 00:05:31,340 --> 00:05:34,140 like a grade nine classroom, that curriculum stays there 126 00:05:34,140 --> 00:05:37,380 for other people to go through that level of education. 127 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:40,420 And it's not the curriculum, it's not the world 128 00:05:40,420 --> 00:05:42,060 that changes, it's the people who change 129 00:05:42,060 --> 00:05:44,660 as they move on to the next step. 130 00:05:44,660 --> 00:05:48,660 So a long-winded way to say how to tangibly tap into, 131 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:51,140 through yourself, how to get into your own Christ oil, 132 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:53,700 how to open your pineal gland, this starts appealing 133 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:56,620 to people that are at those higher levels 134 00:05:56,620 --> 00:06:00,180 of spiritual classes in the earth school, right? 135 00:06:00,180 --> 00:06:02,180 Like some things just don't, 136 00:06:02,180 --> 00:06:04,740 you've outgrown too many things. 137 00:06:04,740 --> 00:06:08,140 So you guys just got back from my ayahuasca retreat 138 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:09,420 here in a second, I'm gonna have to ask you 139 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:10,620 what you got from that. 140 00:06:10,620 --> 00:06:12,620 The reason why I pointed that out, Cleburne, 141 00:06:12,620 --> 00:06:16,180 is because I had a tangible experience that I connected to, 142 00:06:16,180 --> 00:06:18,140 it was opening my third eye. 143 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:18,980 Yeah. 144 00:06:18,980 --> 00:06:21,660 And it was very, very profound and powerful. 145 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:24,020 Okay, do you want to share about it or? 146 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:25,940 No, I just wanted to give you that context 147 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:28,220 because that's what started the conversation for me 148 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:32,020 is that concept of, over the last two years, 149 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:36,180 we've been learning about the chakras and understanding 150 00:06:36,180 --> 00:06:41,180 that moving up the spine to your crown chakra. 151 00:06:42,220 --> 00:06:46,260 And it's that concept of you're trying to get to here 152 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:49,460 and that's where your pineal gland is, opening that up, 153 00:06:49,460 --> 00:06:52,260 but your breathing practice was really a process 154 00:06:52,260 --> 00:06:56,260 of making that energized, of pushing up that fluid. 155 00:06:56,260 --> 00:06:57,420 And breathing was part of it, 156 00:06:57,420 --> 00:07:00,540 but it was more a process of opening up 157 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:03,540 and it was more a process of observing 158 00:07:05,540 --> 00:07:08,340 a time of the month when there is a chemical process 159 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:12,340 that happens within the body that can serve to 160 00:07:13,340 --> 00:07:17,540 open up different receptors in the brain naturally. 161 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:18,380 Right? 162 00:07:18,380 --> 00:07:19,940 It's like someone goes in there 163 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:21,860 and flips on a hundred new light switches 164 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:24,020 and a bunch of stuff just opens up. 165 00:07:25,660 --> 00:07:28,100 Ram Dass, I think it was, it had a great quote that said, 166 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:31,260 it's just put you in the room with Christ for a few hours. 167 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:33,700 I still have not like journeyed or done any of that, 168 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:36,420 but that's from what I gather from everybody's feedback. 169 00:07:36,420 --> 00:07:40,020 It is, it's not like going and doing cocaine 170 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:40,860 or something like that. 171 00:07:40,860 --> 00:07:45,460 Yeah, it's a plant medicine that truly opens a pathway 172 00:07:45,460 --> 00:07:49,140 for some beautiful spiritual connection. 173 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:53,620 And it can be that, it can be like a guidepost 174 00:07:53,620 --> 00:07:56,260 that like points you to the connection. 175 00:07:56,260 --> 00:07:59,340 Some people end up thinking, okay, the plant 176 00:07:59,340 --> 00:08:01,700 or the substance or the medicine or whatever 177 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,660 is the place where I go to feel that connection. 178 00:08:04,660 --> 00:08:06,700 So then they make a false idol out of it. 179 00:08:07,740 --> 00:08:11,660 So this is one area of concern I have for me personally, 180 00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:16,260 just because addiction runs strongly in me 181 00:08:16,260 --> 00:08:17,940 and in my family and all that kind of stuff. 182 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:21,700 So I've always been very leery about me personally. 183 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:23,580 Like, I don't know how much I trust myself 184 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:26,540 to touch things that could become potentially addictive 185 00:08:26,540 --> 00:08:29,140 because I'm like a hyper-focused type of person anyways, 186 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:32,100 sometimes, so there's a good chance that I would wind up 187 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:35,140 under a bridge, living under a bridge if I touch things 188 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:36,980 that could potentially be bad for me. 189 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:40,140 Off topic, anyways, how to observe it, the Christ. 190 00:08:40,140 --> 00:08:41,220 We've talked about this before. 191 00:08:41,220 --> 00:08:44,620 There's a verse in the Bible that I could pull it up 192 00:08:44,620 --> 00:08:45,860 if you guys want the exact verse. 193 00:08:45,860 --> 00:08:50,540 It's in 1 John 1 22, I think, or 2 22, 194 00:08:50,540 --> 00:08:54,700 but it basically says the anointing you received in Christ 195 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:56,260 lives in you. 196 00:08:57,700 --> 00:08:58,900 It teaches you everything, 197 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:02,060 so you don't need anybody to teach you anything else. 198 00:09:02,060 --> 00:09:04,100 Just live in Christ as he taught you to do 199 00:09:05,380 --> 00:09:07,140 and it will teach you everything. 200 00:09:08,020 --> 00:09:10,660 So that anointing that lives in you. 201 00:09:10,660 --> 00:09:13,420 Now, the person who was speaking this 202 00:09:13,420 --> 00:09:15,340 was speaking to a crowd of people 203 00:09:15,340 --> 00:09:18,540 that had likely never actually seen Christ, right? 204 00:09:18,540 --> 00:09:20,140 So although they baptized people, 205 00:09:20,140 --> 00:09:23,300 it doesn't talk much about Jesus anointing anybody. 206 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:26,580 So who are these people who definitely didn't get anointed 207 00:09:26,580 --> 00:09:29,020 by Jesus because they never met him, right? 208 00:09:29,020 --> 00:09:30,260 So when this is going on, 209 00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:33,700 what anointing that can live in you is he talking about? 210 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:37,740 And then this ties into a practice that was observed 211 00:09:37,740 --> 00:09:40,100 in ancient Egypt and comedic spirituality 212 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:43,860 through tons of other like Kabbalistic 213 00:09:43,860 --> 00:09:47,860 and other higher levels of esoteric spirituality. 214 00:09:47,860 --> 00:09:49,380 They get into this. 215 00:09:49,380 --> 00:09:50,980 And then the same thing that you were discussing 216 00:09:50,980 --> 00:09:52,940 when you start looking at physically, 217 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:54,900 looking at the shape of the brain, 218 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:57,380 when you look at how certain parts of it look exactly 219 00:09:57,380 --> 00:09:59,620 like the way the Ark of the Covenant is described 220 00:09:59,620 --> 00:10:02,980 and the massive amount of parallels that are going on 221 00:10:02,980 --> 00:10:05,300 between the places of the brain, 222 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:06,620 the functions of the brain, 223 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:12,580 and you, so many dots have to connect to overlap. 224 00:10:12,580 --> 00:10:14,500 It's like that part in Iron Man 225 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:15,820 and the first one where he's in the cave 226 00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:17,620 and he's secretly building the Iron Man suit 227 00:10:17,620 --> 00:10:19,100 when they want him to build a missile 228 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,780 and he's got all of his blueprints laying there. 229 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:21,600 And the guy's like, 230 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:22,820 you wanna show me what you're building? 231 00:10:22,820 --> 00:10:24,300 And he's like flatten them on a look. 232 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:26,300 And when he flattened all the papers out, 233 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,540 then you can see. 234 00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:29,220 So there's a lot of these little dots 235 00:10:29,220 --> 00:10:30,540 that don't look like they're connected 236 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:32,460 until you like stack them on top of each other 237 00:10:32,460 --> 00:10:35,940 and you're like, oh crap, this, now I see the picture. 238 00:10:35,940 --> 00:10:40,540 So effectively, the human vessel is real 239 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:41,980 through which we can experience, 240 00:10:41,980 --> 00:10:44,340 but it's not real in the sense that our consciousness, 241 00:10:44,340 --> 00:10:46,500 our soul is existing in eternity 242 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:51,500 and it is not subject to whatever happens in the world. 243 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:59,300 The body is temporary, the soul is not, to put it simply. 244 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:02,260 So what's going on here is only real 245 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:05,860 for the sake of experience and for a very short while, 246 00:11:05,860 --> 00:11:08,140 but it's not real in the sense that where we reside 247 00:11:08,140 --> 00:11:10,180 before we got here and after we leave here. 248 00:11:10,180 --> 00:11:11,980 So how to tap into that stuff naturally 249 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:14,820 through your own body, this process 250 00:11:14,820 --> 00:11:18,140 that where your brain secretes a chemical 251 00:11:18,140 --> 00:11:22,260 from around the pineal, from the claustrum, 252 00:11:22,260 --> 00:11:26,100 which is near there, it secretes a process 253 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:30,220 that moves through the pineal and the pituitary gland. 254 00:11:30,220 --> 00:11:32,700 Now, when you look at the original Trinity, 255 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:34,700 which is source, which is just God, 256 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:36,780 and then masculine, feminine, right? 257 00:11:36,780 --> 00:11:38,860 The first initial split. 258 00:11:38,860 --> 00:11:43,540 So the claustrum, we consider that the first of the Trinity 259 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:46,140 and the masculine, feminine, which is like the pineal 260 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:48,940 and the pituitary, one of them secretes a milky, 261 00:11:48,940 --> 00:11:51,340 like a white looking substance and the other secretes 262 00:11:51,340 --> 00:11:53,980 like a yellowish substance, milk and honey, 263 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:55,700 the land of milk and honey. 264 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:58,060 Okay, and also at this point- 265 00:11:58,060 --> 00:12:00,460 Do we know what those substances are, Cleaver? 266 00:12:00,460 --> 00:12:04,900 Yeah, there's a, one it's like chapter seven of my book 267 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:07,740 is all about this and again, I make things very simple 268 00:12:07,740 --> 00:12:10,780 and condensed when it's in the book, 269 00:12:10,780 --> 00:12:14,700 but people go all out, like looking at diagrams 270 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:15,940 and ways in which this is referenced. 271 00:12:15,940 --> 00:12:17,140 You can look it up scientifically. 272 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:19,900 You can go to Google Scholar and look at peer reviewed 273 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:22,540 reports and stuff about the chemicals 274 00:12:22,540 --> 00:12:24,860 that these organs produce. 275 00:12:24,860 --> 00:12:27,140 So the reason it's important to observe it 276 00:12:27,140 --> 00:12:28,900 during a certain time of month, I'll get into that, 277 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:30,700 but effectively from source, 278 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:33,300 the original split is masculine and feminine, right? 279 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:36,340 So you could look at the pituitary and the pineal, 280 00:12:36,340 --> 00:12:38,180 which represent the milk and honey, 281 00:12:38,180 --> 00:12:41,660 which also as these parallels begin to look more obvious, 282 00:12:41,660 --> 00:12:45,700 they represent Joseph and Mary, the masculine and feminine. 283 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:46,540 Right, one of them- 284 00:12:46,540 --> 00:12:47,620 Which one is masculine? 285 00:12:48,980 --> 00:12:51,580 I believe, which one is the, which one is the honey? 286 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:56,100 I think it's the pituitary gland is the yellow one 287 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:59,700 and the pineal gland is the white, the feminine one. 288 00:12:59,700 --> 00:13:00,540 That makes sense. 289 00:13:00,540 --> 00:13:01,420 But I might have this backwards 290 00:13:01,420 --> 00:13:04,420 because I'm not fully caffeinated yet today. 291 00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:09,420 But from there, from the reason it has to sort of diffuse 292 00:13:09,980 --> 00:13:11,740 and eventually come back up into one, 293 00:13:11,740 --> 00:13:14,380 this is the parallel of our spiritual journey anyways, 294 00:13:14,380 --> 00:13:17,380 right, like everything is the one 295 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:19,260 that separated itself into the all 296 00:13:19,260 --> 00:13:22,420 to experience the joy of becoming the one again, right? 297 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:27,420 So, and just like the story of Jesus came down 298 00:13:27,420 --> 00:13:29,100 to be a family with Mary and Joseph, 299 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:30,380 eventually returning back to the father, 300 00:13:30,380 --> 00:13:32,460 that's what this process is going to represent. 301 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:34,900 So I'll just kind of do it chronologically, right? 302 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:37,180 From the claustrum begins a process 303 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:39,060 that through the pineal and the pituitary 304 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:40,620 produces these two chemicals 305 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:43,420 that match up to the description of milk and honey, 306 00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:46,220 the land of milk and honey, the promised land. 307 00:13:46,220 --> 00:13:48,980 That chemical creates an oil 308 00:13:48,980 --> 00:13:50,780 that secretes through the brain. 309 00:13:50,780 --> 00:13:51,980 Now this is like the Christ, 310 00:13:51,980 --> 00:13:53,340 this is why they call it the Christ oil, 311 00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:55,020 because the journey that it goes through 312 00:13:55,020 --> 00:13:56,940 is similar to the journey of Christ. 313 00:13:56,940 --> 00:13:59,300 It flows down your spinal cord 314 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:01,700 of which there are 33 vertebrae 315 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:04,820 and Christ lived for 33 years, right? 316 00:14:04,820 --> 00:14:07,940 Once it goes all the way down into the sacrum, 317 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:09,700 into the root shock, you know, 318 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:12,700 down into the lowest part of your spine, 319 00:14:12,700 --> 00:14:15,900 from there it begins making its way back up the spine. 320 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:19,900 Now this entire process is a two and a half day process. 321 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:22,100 Like how long was Christ in the tomb? 322 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:23,860 Three, yep, three days, two and a half days. 323 00:14:23,860 --> 00:14:26,220 Right, and where was he crucified? 324 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:27,540 On Galgatha, which means? 325 00:14:27,540 --> 00:14:29,260 On the hills, place of the skull. 326 00:14:29,260 --> 00:14:30,820 Place of the skull. 327 00:14:30,820 --> 00:14:32,620 Okay, so as it goes down, 328 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:35,660 and as this chemical begins to rise again, 329 00:14:35,660 --> 00:14:38,900 up through your 33 vertebrae, 330 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:41,500 as it passes along, it begins opening up 331 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:43,500 extra nerve receptors along the spine. 332 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:45,700 So the spatial awareness within the body 333 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:48,420 to not just feel everything that's going on in your body, 334 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:50,740 because there are trillions of cells 335 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:52,140 within our body at all times, 336 00:14:52,140 --> 00:14:53,340 right from the moment we're born. 337 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:56,620 We are withholding life and death within us. 338 00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:59,420 Our bodies have a decay rate, they have a growth rate, 339 00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:03,820 cells are being duplicated and dying and being born, right? 340 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:07,100 Like we are living and dying simultaneously 341 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:08,380 the whole time we're in this body. 342 00:15:08,380 --> 00:15:11,420 And within us is life and death at the cellular level. 343 00:15:11,420 --> 00:15:14,020 There is autonomous function taking place within us. 344 00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:17,420 There is a universe of existence, of life, right? 345 00:15:17,420 --> 00:15:21,420 Of cells that are making their own choices 346 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:22,740 to attack white blood cells, 347 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:25,420 to move nutrients, to carry chemicals. 348 00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:28,940 All this stuff is happening without our awareness. 349 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:31,020 So increasing these nerve endings 350 00:15:31,020 --> 00:15:33,420 allows our spatial awareness to get a better feel 351 00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:35,620 for what's going on within the universe 352 00:15:35,620 --> 00:15:37,820 of which we are the god of 353 00:15:37,820 --> 00:15:40,220 at this little parallel level, right? 354 00:15:40,220 --> 00:15:44,220 And from there, it will allow you to physically feel 355 00:15:45,220 --> 00:15:48,660 outside of your body, our electromagnetic field 356 00:15:48,660 --> 00:15:50,940 that we produce, you could call it the aura, 357 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:53,220 but science refers to it as an electromagnetic field, 358 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:55,020 which scientifically we produce a field. 359 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:56,420 That's the toroidal field. 360 00:15:56,420 --> 00:15:57,260 Yeah. 361 00:15:57,260 --> 00:16:00,980 Yeah, there's, this is one of those areas, right? 362 00:16:00,980 --> 00:16:05,980 Where quantum science like shakes hands with spirituality 363 00:16:06,180 --> 00:16:08,940 and they're sort of talking about the same thing. 364 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:12,100 And now our technology has ways to like validate it 365 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:14,340 in a way that a logical mind can say, 366 00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:15,700 oh, well that makes sense. 367 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:17,180 And the spiritual mind will say, 368 00:16:17,180 --> 00:16:18,780 yeah, that's what people have been saying 369 00:16:18,780 --> 00:16:19,860 since the dawn of time, right? 370 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:24,540 So the connection is now able to be observed 371 00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:25,660 without needing much faith. 372 00:16:25,660 --> 00:16:28,100 You can see these things more plainly. 373 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:30,700 So as that spatial awareness within the body increases, 374 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:34,900 the ability to feel your energetic field increases, 375 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:36,860 which comes at play later, 376 00:16:36,860 --> 00:16:40,900 like things like Jesus being able to interact with people, 377 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:43,580 healing by touching, healing by sending a word, 378 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:46,940 like having, like the same way I can physically reach out 379 00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:49,260 and move something with my hands, 380 00:16:49,260 --> 00:16:53,460 your ability to use your energetic field to go do things 381 00:16:53,460 --> 00:16:56,780 or feel things or perceive things begins increasing. 382 00:16:56,780 --> 00:16:59,620 And as this oil moves back up through the heart center, 383 00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:02,780 it helps for people who understand 384 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:04,620 how chakra centers work. 385 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:07,620 That helps sort of reharmonize those centers 386 00:17:07,620 --> 00:17:10,620 until ultimately moving back into the brain. 387 00:17:10,620 --> 00:17:12,500 And once there, if properly observed, 388 00:17:14,180 --> 00:17:16,220 again, it's like somebody goes in 389 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:17,860 and flips on just a million light switches. 390 00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:22,860 It's scientifically, it opens up millions of new neurons 391 00:17:22,860 --> 00:17:23,700 within the brain. 392 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:27,180 So the brain's capacity to serve as a greater antenna, 393 00:17:27,180 --> 00:17:30,140 as a greater receptor is increased exponentially. 394 00:17:31,420 --> 00:17:33,500 And again, this whole process takes two and a half days. 395 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:37,460 It happens while the moon is passing through your sun sign. 396 00:17:37,460 --> 00:17:39,340 Now, why is that kind of funny, right? 397 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:41,500 So the moon represents the feminine. 398 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:43,740 That's the magnetism that affects our tides 399 00:17:43,740 --> 00:17:45,180 and the water and everything. 400 00:17:45,180 --> 00:17:47,060 The sun is the masculine. 401 00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:49,900 It affects the electricity, 402 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:54,900 like how it heats the earth through radio waves, radiation. 403 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:58,620 It's the 24 hour daily schedule. 404 00:17:58,620 --> 00:18:03,140 Like a man, the moon is like the 28 day monthly cycle, 405 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:05,140 like a woman that goes through its phases. 406 00:18:05,140 --> 00:18:08,460 So these two things are required to take place, 407 00:18:08,460 --> 00:18:11,580 which is why during each month, that's why it's important. 408 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:13,860 Your sun sign, when the moon, whatever phase it's in, 409 00:18:13,860 --> 00:18:18,380 it can be waning, crescent, waxing, 410 00:18:18,380 --> 00:18:21,700 full whatever, it doesn't matter what phase the moon is in, 411 00:18:21,700 --> 00:18:25,060 but when it's passing through your sun sign every month, 412 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:28,780 that's when your inner alchemical masculine and feminine 413 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:32,700 is able to produce that new seed, that new Christ oil, 414 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:36,980 that if observed properly can go through its life cycle 415 00:18:36,980 --> 00:18:40,580 of its 33 years, go up and down its 33 vertebraes 416 00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:44,540 to effectively be, and then people go further into this 417 00:18:44,540 --> 00:18:46,700 as far as like the descent into hell, 418 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:48,820 which is sort of like the story of where Christ was 419 00:18:48,820 --> 00:18:52,140 while he was in the tomb to go conquer death 420 00:18:52,140 --> 00:18:54,380 and then ascend to eternal life. 421 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:59,780 And then here in a minute, I wanna circle back to this 422 00:18:59,780 --> 00:19:02,620 about how the 40 days thing works, 423 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:05,380 how that was such a prevalent thing throughout the Bible. 424 00:19:05,380 --> 00:19:07,220 Purgation, purification. 425 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:08,060 Yeah. 426 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:11,060 But for this part, anyways, this is again, 427 00:19:11,060 --> 00:19:14,420 it's in chapter seven of my book and it's easily 428 00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:17,700 YouTubeable, Googleable, science researchable, 429 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:20,100 all this kind of stuff that there's a physical chemical 430 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:22,420 process that happens in the body. 431 00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,740 The first time I ever heard about this was Jim Carrey. 432 00:19:24,740 --> 00:19:25,580 I saw like a little YouTube. 433 00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:26,420 No, I saw that. 434 00:19:26,420 --> 00:19:27,260 I was gonna ask you about that. 435 00:19:27,260 --> 00:19:28,780 This is the Santa Claus effect. 436 00:19:28,780 --> 00:19:32,380 Yeah, that's another one where there are so many stories 437 00:19:32,380 --> 00:19:35,300 that overlap where you're like, okay, well, you know, 438 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:38,660 so that's another one, like the path back home, right? 439 00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:43,660 Like the map back to home works for anybody. 440 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:46,700 Like the Easter eggs are spread out everywhere. 441 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:49,700 So no matter where you start and what resonates with you, 442 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:52,380 you can start seeing these little Easter eggs that point 443 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:53,340 you in a certain direction. 444 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:55,860 And eventually you can see the same Easter eggs 445 00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:58,860 and all these other spaces. 446 00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:01,660 So then you're like, okay, well, that is like 447 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:02,660 a common denominator. 448 00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:04,660 That is a truth that's just being told 449 00:20:04,660 --> 00:20:07,340 in this different setting or this different language 450 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:12,340 or this different mythological story or whatever. 451 00:20:12,340 --> 00:20:14,140 But they all start to stack together. 452 00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:15,780 And yeah, Jim Carrey was the first time I heard it. 453 00:20:15,780 --> 00:20:18,380 It was like a one minute long YouTube short. 454 00:20:18,380 --> 00:20:19,620 And I was like, what? 455 00:20:19,620 --> 00:20:22,260 And then, you know, then I just, all of a sudden 456 00:20:22,260 --> 00:20:24,960 my algorithm decided to cram that down my face. 457 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,220 Like everything I looked at was that topic. 458 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:30,060 And then when I looked into it more, I was like, okay, 459 00:20:30,060 --> 00:20:34,300 this isn't just some nonsense. 460 00:20:34,300 --> 00:20:37,860 And then I began practicing it a little over a year ago 461 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:42,860 and that seemed to greatly expedite the rate at which 462 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:47,900 Cleburne was able to step aside more and just open up more 463 00:20:48,860 --> 00:20:53,860 to be in flow, to be of service, I guess. 464 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:56,460 So Cleburne, let me ask you this from, 465 00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:57,700 what did that feel like? 466 00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:59,140 In other words, what is that experience 467 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:01,420 as you're going through it feel like? 468 00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:06,180 And what you talk about being able to be more in flow, 469 00:21:06,180 --> 00:21:08,220 but what was that like? 470 00:21:09,980 --> 00:21:12,660 So the monthly experience. 471 00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:14,900 So I started doing this over a year ago. 472 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,860 I fast, except for last month I didn't, 473 00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:20,460 but almost every single month I do a three day water fast. 474 00:21:20,460 --> 00:21:23,100 This month I did, which just ended yesterday morning. 475 00:21:24,620 --> 00:21:27,180 But what it feels like is a lot. 476 00:21:27,180 --> 00:21:28,700 It's different every month. 477 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:31,580 It took about six months of practicing at it 478 00:21:31,580 --> 00:21:34,540 and getting a feel for what sort of thoughts 479 00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:35,500 were going through my mind. 480 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:39,740 What sort of ways in which I was wrestling with myself 481 00:21:39,740 --> 00:21:42,300 or asking like, what are you doing? 482 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,060 Why are you going back and forth 483 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:47,500 of which voices in my head I'm hearing 484 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:50,060 and which ones are which and all that kind of stuff. 485 00:21:50,060 --> 00:21:54,740 And anyways, yeah, it took about six months 486 00:21:54,740 --> 00:21:59,740 to really feel it, to really physically feel it kick in. 487 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:01,340 Thank you. 488 00:22:01,340 --> 00:22:03,140 It's taken me three, I've not felt anything yet. 489 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:04,420 I'm just going through the motions, 490 00:22:04,420 --> 00:22:05,700 trying to do my best. 491 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,220 So that's part of it. 492 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:10,700 Going through the motions is sort of part of it, 493 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:12,540 especially like if you're fasting 494 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:16,180 or definitely like abstaining from sex in all ways, 495 00:22:16,180 --> 00:22:17,540 even mentally and stuff like that, 496 00:22:17,540 --> 00:22:22,540 like putting energies aside that tether you 497 00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:27,100 to the flesh experience as much as possible. 498 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:27,940 I like, we have lives, 499 00:22:27,940 --> 00:22:29,420 we have to show up to our responsibilities. 500 00:22:29,420 --> 00:22:33,620 I've got to, we've got work and kids and stuff, 501 00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:38,620 but as much as you could effectively just stop being 502 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:41,660 all the things you have been in the habit of being 503 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:44,620 and leave a ton of space to say in this space, 504 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:47,020 I invite the Holy Spirit, invite God, 505 00:22:47,020 --> 00:22:48,940 invite however you wanna see it. 506 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:51,940 I would like the space to be filled with that, with God, 507 00:22:55,060 --> 00:22:57,180 whatever, however you'd like to feel about it. 508 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:00,660 But I am carving out a space and I'm gonna leave it empty, 509 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:01,940 which feels really weird 510 00:23:01,940 --> 00:23:03,700 because most of us have a hard time 511 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:06,940 not filling all of the empty spots in our calendar, 512 00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:08,540 filling all the empty moments in our day. 513 00:23:08,540 --> 00:23:12,020 Like, especially now, like culturally, 514 00:23:12,020 --> 00:23:14,180 we have a hard time being bored, right? 515 00:23:14,180 --> 00:23:17,540 So imagine being bored and hungry, maybe horny, 516 00:23:17,540 --> 00:23:19,220 maybe feeling like you're being lazy, 517 00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:22,100 maybe wondering why you're doing this 518 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,340 or is it stupid or whatever, 519 00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:26,580 and just leaving everything on pause for a period of time 520 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:30,100 so that your body can put more energy 521 00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:33,500 towards what it's doing instead of also digesting 522 00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:34,620 all the new food you're putting it in 523 00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:37,620 and also dealing with the stress hormones we add 524 00:23:37,620 --> 00:23:40,060 by thinking about this project we're working on 525 00:23:40,060 --> 00:23:43,020 or remembering this time we did something super cringy 526 00:23:43,020 --> 00:23:45,140 when we were a kid and all the little things 527 00:23:45,140 --> 00:23:48,460 that we do in our head that trigger chemical responses 528 00:23:48,460 --> 00:23:50,060 within our body constantly, right? 529 00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:52,820 Like, you know, and science shows us too, right? 530 00:23:52,820 --> 00:23:54,220 Like if you're on a VR machine 531 00:23:54,220 --> 00:23:56,100 and you think you're on a high line, 532 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,420 you know, your body will display the same chemical reaction 533 00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:02,460 as if you were really somewhere in danger, right? 534 00:24:02,460 --> 00:24:04,740 Like if you sat down and really imagined 535 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:07,060 like a tiger running in the room and chasing you, 536 00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:09,780 you would start to feel the physical reaction 537 00:24:09,780 --> 00:24:12,340 of fight or flight, just like it was really happening. 538 00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:15,460 The body doesn't know the difference 539 00:24:15,460 --> 00:24:18,820 because the brain is the reality, it's the truth center. 540 00:24:18,820 --> 00:24:21,180 The brain may receive data 541 00:24:21,180 --> 00:24:23,420 that it perceives through the senses, 542 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:26,340 but it's ultimately still not real, right? 543 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:29,820 Like I can see you guys right here, 544 00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:32,740 but if I close my eyes and I don't see you, 545 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:35,860 I still start to like put a picture in my mind 546 00:24:35,860 --> 00:24:38,540 and that's what my emotions and my reactions go off of. 547 00:24:38,540 --> 00:24:42,740 So all that to say, our brain constantly creates 548 00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:45,060 chemical reactions in our body. 549 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:46,620 So how can we stop that? 550 00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:48,180 How can you pause that long enough 551 00:24:48,180 --> 00:24:53,060 to let everything truly like settle and leave a space 552 00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:55,020 for the Holy Spirit to come in 553 00:24:55,020 --> 00:24:57,940 and like do like a factory reset almost, right? 554 00:24:57,940 --> 00:25:00,380 Like turn it off and back on sort of thing. 555 00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:05,660 And that takes practice to leave a space 556 00:25:05,660 --> 00:25:08,740 for no reason other than just to leave a space 557 00:25:08,740 --> 00:25:11,820 and then have no expectations for what's gonna come from it 558 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:12,780 or when it's gonna come from it. 559 00:25:12,780 --> 00:25:14,180 Now that being said, 560 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:15,860 especially for the first handful of months, 561 00:25:15,860 --> 00:25:20,340 it's pretty important to start and end with the meditation 562 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,580 and the first one to start with a meditation 563 00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:25,940 that is sort of opening this three-day holy period, 564 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:28,740 this ceremony with an intention. 565 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:30,500 Whatever it is, totally personal to you, 566 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:31,780 whatever your intention is, right? 567 00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:33,500 Like I hope by the end of this, 568 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,060 I figure out how to make a million dollars. 569 00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:36,860 I hope by the end of this, 570 00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:40,140 I figure out how to know your will more clearly, 571 00:25:40,140 --> 00:25:42,100 Father, somebody who's like super, 572 00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:43,780 in that space may look at it, right? 573 00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:45,500 Like whatever your intention is, 574 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:46,860 I don't know what my intention is. 575 00:25:46,860 --> 00:25:49,860 I just know I wanna grow closer to the divine 576 00:25:49,860 --> 00:25:52,660 and I believe this is a path through which that can happen. 577 00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:55,780 Whatever the intention is, I wanna find a spouse, whatever. 578 00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:58,580 Want my child to heal who's battling a terrible sickness, 579 00:25:58,580 --> 00:26:00,460 right, like give it up. 580 00:26:00,460 --> 00:26:01,900 And then from that moment on, 581 00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:04,140 literally don't think about it again. 582 00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:05,260 Don't think about it. 583 00:26:05,260 --> 00:26:07,300 Because every time we think about something, 584 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,260 we're checking in on it, 585 00:26:08,260 --> 00:26:09,700 which is looking for confirmation, 586 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:13,300 which is saying I really don't know yet until I see proof. 587 00:26:13,300 --> 00:26:14,120 Which is- 588 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:14,960 You're reinforcing the doubt. 589 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,940 We're reinforcing the doubt. 590 00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:17,260 Every time we check in on it, right? 591 00:26:17,260 --> 00:26:21,220 Like at no point that I always draw back to Jesus 592 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:23,820 as like the ultimate example of the highest form 593 00:26:23,820 --> 00:26:27,300 of oneness with God while here on the earth, right? 594 00:26:28,260 --> 00:26:29,820 Because that's the whole point of that story. 595 00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:32,020 And it's for people who don't like that, 596 00:26:32,020 --> 00:26:33,740 they can find that exact same story 597 00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:36,500 told throughout centuries and other religions. 598 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,800 But we live in the Christ timeline right now. 599 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,980 Just look at our calendar. 600 00:26:39,980 --> 00:26:41,540 Like we live in the age 601 00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:43,420 of the Christ consciousness timeline. 602 00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:46,980 So that's the centerpiece for which we can all draw back to 603 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:51,980 and see like an ineffable template through which to follow. 604 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,740 But at no point did he like say a prayer 605 00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:58,100 and ask for somebody to be healed 606 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,060 and then be like, look around and be like, 607 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:01,060 is it gonna work? 608 00:27:01,060 --> 00:27:01,900 And then when they did it, 609 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:03,980 and then when they woke up, 610 00:27:03,980 --> 00:27:05,340 was he like, yes, totally worked. 611 00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:07,980 And like cheer about it and act all pumped up, right? 612 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:11,260 It was just like, he didn't ask for it. 613 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:13,100 He didn't wait to see if it was gonna happen. 614 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,280 He commanded it. 615 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,480 So that's sort of like what this is. 616 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,600 When we're starting your meditations 617 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,320 and opening with an intention, 618 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,200 we're not at a place yet to be able to command 619 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,600 your material world to change instantly. 620 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,680 The reason for that is because if you could do that, 621 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,520 or if you did do that, 622 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,400 it would make you think you were crazy. 623 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,680 If right now, if you looked at your lamp and said, 624 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,520 turn into a bottle and it did it, 625 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,080 you wouldn't think, of course, 626 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,280 that's what would happen. 627 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,400 I'm a master of my reality. 628 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080 You would think, holy shit, what else have I been missing? 629 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,920 What does this mean? 630 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,000 That the scope of what you had previously perceived 631 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000 to be real would be so busted wide open. 632 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,880 We would be like Peter on the water who sinks. 633 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,120 We were doing it for a minute, 634 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:57,960 and then we look around and be like, 635 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,000 this is information overload. 636 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,760 And we go back to what we felt 637 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,520 was the way things should work, right? 638 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560 So this process speeds up the rate 639 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,200 at which you can accept 640 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,200 how malleable your experience of reality can be. 641 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,120 So again, starting with an opening intention, 642 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,400 setting your intention, 643 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,080 and then don't think about it again. 644 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,560 Even when it tries to pop up, just shut it down. 645 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,560 Don't argue with yourself. 646 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,600 Don't look in on it. 647 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,680 Don't look for validation or wrestle with the fact of, 648 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,520 am I worthy of it? 649 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Am I guilty of anything that would make this not happen? 650 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,080 Is it selfish? 651 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,920 Is it righteous? 652 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:35,760 None of that shit. 653 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,920 Just set the intention. 654 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,920 Just set the intention in the meditation done. 655 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:42,760 And then for the remainder of people. 656 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Can I interject real quick here, 657 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Yeah, yeah. 658 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,840 because I like where you're going with this 659 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,560 and definitely in letting go with Dr. Hawkins, 660 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200 the idea, and even in Vedic thought, 661 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,280 the idea of grasping and reaching 662 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,360 and obsessing over things. 663 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,520 That's how you lose them, right? 664 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,400 We've gotten down that path. 665 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,920 But in meditation, most folks in meditation, 666 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,280 and these are solid practices, 667 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,960 they think of having a thought is not a bad thing. 668 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,480 Your thought is not your mind. 669 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,920 So can you help me understand? 670 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,680 Because I think there's a difference 671 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080 between having a thought and letting it go. 672 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,000 And it's out there, right? 673 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,880 They consider it, you've got a disco ball. 674 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,800 Here's the analogy that is. 675 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600 Here's a disco ball and you've got these thoughts. 676 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760 Let them like pretend they're snowflakes 677 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,800 so they go to the ground. 678 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,800 So you don't give them any power. 679 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,520 But there's a big difference between lusting 680 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320 or obsessing over that intention. 681 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,160 Right. 682 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,040 And a dwelling in your mind versus like it's there, 683 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,560 but I shouldn't beat myself up because it pops up. 684 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,240 I just let it kind of go away. 685 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,720 I mean, how do you get to that point? 686 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,400 Do you understand where I'm coming with this? 687 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,440 Because in meditation, people are like, 688 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,840 don't let your thoughts kill you 689 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,480 because that's not who you are. 690 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400 In fact, acknowledge the thoughts. 691 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,680 There's a meditation where you've just got 692 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,520 them sitting out there 693 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,200 and they're just kind of swimming around out there 694 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,240 and you're not dwelling on them. 695 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,640 They're just, okay, yep, there's some anger there. 696 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,640 There's some fear, there's some trepidation. 697 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,560 And you've got it kind of floating around. 698 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,680 But do you understand where I'm going with this? 699 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,520 I'm just trying to figure out 700 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,200 how you can get to that space of, 701 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,080 that even the thought of it is not even there. 702 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,400 Like even in like almost, if you could say this thought is, 703 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,880 I'm not freaking out about it. 704 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,120 I'm not giving it any weight, but it just popped up. 705 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,960 And you see what I'm saying? 706 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:23,800 Yep, totally. 707 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,800 So yeah, not forming an attachment to thoughts 708 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560 as they come up, observing them, 709 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,880 maybe even seeing if there's something they need you to see, 710 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880 that there's something those thoughts need to tell you 711 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,040 or reveal to you. 712 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,680 And then sort of, yeah, like you said, 713 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,800 letting them pass, letting them go, 714 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 bringing your awareness just back to 715 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,760 the stillness you're in or whatever. 716 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,440 But what I'm saying is for that opening ceremony 717 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,120 at the beginning of this three day Christ oil practice, 718 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,320 as you set your intention after the meditation's over 719 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,280 for the remainder of the two or three days. 720 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,120 Three days. 721 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,800 Yeah, don't like in your conscious moving about 722 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,760 waking daily life, don't let your intellect, 723 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,160 don't let our thinking mind draw back to it. 724 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,080 Don't let it become a focal point for these three days. 725 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120 It was said, it was dropped off in the astral, 726 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,920 it was laid at God's lap and then leave it there. 727 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880 And then during these three days, 728 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,520 if somebody's fasting, if they're abstaining 729 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:21,360 from different things, 730 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,360 if they're observing extra cold plunges or saunas 731 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,360 or whatever, salt baths or different types 732 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,360 of meditations throughout the day, 733 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,440 doing breath work, doing yoga, whatever they're gonna do 734 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,960 that they feel like they're prioritizing 735 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,120 their connection to spirituality during this time. 736 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,860 And then at the end, at the end of it, 737 00:31:43,860 --> 00:31:46,320 when the moon is about to pass through your, 738 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,820 to exit your sign, 10 or 15 minutes before, 739 00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:52,340 sit into a meditation long enough to where you'll kind of be 740 00:31:52,340 --> 00:31:55,160 in that theta state where you'll be in that relaxed, 741 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,360 settled state. 742 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,600 And then just from that point, 743 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160 be open to receive whatever it is 744 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,600 towards the tail end of it. 745 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,480 Yes, breathe intentionally. 746 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,960 There's a couple of practices you can do 747 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,960 to add pressure to the pineal gland 748 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920 that helped to declassify it or decalcify it. 749 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,120 Decalcify, yeah. 750 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,560 Yeah, or activate it. 751 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,280 Once you feel it really kick in, 752 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760 I don't know that you need to do it anymore after that, 753 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,760 but it takes a few months of getting a personal feel for it. 754 00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:30,460 There's all kinds of little tactics, 755 00:32:30,460 --> 00:32:32,760 all kinds of little ways you can do it, 756 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240 but it's meant to be a personal experience, right? 757 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,520 Just like a workout program, I guess. 758 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:41,000 Like somebody could give you an outline of a routine 759 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,300 that's a good idea, but you're gonna go in 760 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,960 and eventually figure out different little nuances 761 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,700 of how your body likes to move, 762 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:51,600 how you like to set your pace as you go through it 763 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,440 and all this kind of stuff. 764 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,060 And a template is meant to get you started, 765 00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:58,240 but it's ultimately meant to be something that's personal 766 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,580 and for you and only you, right? 767 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,720 And that's kind of how this practice is. 768 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,880 As far as after you've done this a few times, 769 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,400 how do you meditate in that space 770 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,440 where you're not attached to your thoughts? 771 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,360 So the same way I was talking about the way 772 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,360 that the body within it has so many different functions 773 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360 happening that we don't think about, 774 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,120 like when I meditate, and chapter three in my book 775 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,400 starts with a somatic meditation of sitting into the body 776 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,920 in a way where you realize you, 777 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,860 whatever you identify, however you think 778 00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:34,880 that the I am part of you is a consciousness 779 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,060 that's in the body that has its own consciousness, right? 780 00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:40,520 You can sit and observe your breath. 781 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,440 Your body will breathe for you. 782 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,280 Your cells going all through your body 783 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,240 are repairing things and healing things 784 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,680 and keeping things running for you 785 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,320 so that you might experience 786 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,940 through the body's five senses. 787 00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:55,360 So I'm in the body, I'm one with the body, 788 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,480 but I'm clearly not the body. 789 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,000 Just like I'm in God, I'm one with God, 790 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,400 but I'm not God, right? 791 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,580 I might be a child, but I'm not the father 792 00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:07,720 from this level of perception. 793 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,720 So it's similar. 794 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:12,940 So sitting into the body 795 00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:15,740 and gaining greater awareness of the body 796 00:34:15,740 --> 00:34:20,480 and how you are tethered to its senses and its functions, 797 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,980 but it's not totally you, 798 00:34:21,980 --> 00:34:26,620 will start to make it easier to feel yourself as one 799 00:34:26,620 --> 00:34:30,140 with the divine, like as one, but anyways. 800 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:35,180 I call it empathizing with God 801 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,580 in that Rich and I have this conversation 802 00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:41,100 probably over the last two years, 803 00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:45,240 about two years ago now, probably here this month. 804 00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:49,320 I started a practice of acknowledging 805 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,740 there is no separation from God. 806 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 And the best way to get into that flow for me 807 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,160 is to empathize, like how does God feel about me? 808 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,380 From God's perspective of love, there is no separation. 809 00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:03,480 So how do I place myself there? 810 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560 That's what I call empathizing with God. 811 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,540 It's putting myself in God's shoes, 812 00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:09,960 which is where I come from, 813 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,840 but also seeing the dichotomy of how God sees Jonathan, 814 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,840 my avatar, and realizing that yeah, there is no separation, 815 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,520 but my body feels separated 816 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,160 because I've lived an entire life as Jonathan. 817 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,000 And so as I empathize with God, I remove that connection. 818 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,800 And I think that connection eventually, 819 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,560 this is what I think happened in our ayahuasca retreat, 820 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,080 is it opens the pineal gland, which is a third eye, 821 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,520 and you feel that connection come through. 822 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,880 Like we had some pretty powerful experiences 823 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,080 of removing that connection or that disconnection 824 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,900 and kind of closing the gap. 825 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,480 But most people grow up with a sense of, 826 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,940 no, I am not God, I am totally separate than God. 827 00:35:57,940 --> 00:35:59,560 And that's a journey for a lot of people 828 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,920 to kind of close that chasm. 829 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,840 That's everyone and everything's journey, right? 830 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Yeah. 831 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,800 Like some aspect of God was chucked as far away 832 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,260 from knowledge of self as source as could be. 833 00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:17,680 And then it moves through infinite life cycles 834 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,760 until reaching sort of the human experience, 835 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,720 which is the bridge between the material and the divine. 836 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,760 And then from here, we can start to experience ourselves 837 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,840 as one with God, but knowingly able to experience, right? 838 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,440 We're not like the elements of the earth, 839 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,800 we're not like fire and dirt, we're not like animals. 840 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,040 You know what I mean? 841 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,040 Like creatures that are observantly less self-aware, 842 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,160 if you will. 843 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,560 They don't have a prefrontal cortex, 844 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,000 that's one of the differences. 845 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Yeah, they're just functioning on autopilot, right? 846 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Like lions and wildebeests in Africa today 847 00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:58,400 are doing the same shit they were doing 4,000 years ago 848 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,400 versus human development does advance, does evolve, right? 849 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160 And that's by design. 850 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,520 And we're able to see that so that we can look 851 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,920 at ourselves and realize there's an evolutionary aspect 852 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,400 to us and it's not just about our technology 853 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,960 and what we do at the human level and at the earth level, 854 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,520 but it ties into the fact that we are here 855 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,240 to be the bridge between the corporeal 856 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,480 and the ethereal, right? 857 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,080 And the reason, let's think of it this way. 858 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,360 If you were original source, all there was 859 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,760 was just your self-aware, 860 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160 your conscious self-awareness, right? 861 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,640 You were all there is and nothing else exists 862 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,160 except just your awareness. 863 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,040 That might be peaceful for a minute 864 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,320 until it started to feel boring. 865 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,440 And then how long might it, 866 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000 until it started to feel almost lonely, right? 867 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,480 So again, and the creator created things in which order? 868 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480 Like a big mush of things formed into an order, 869 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,320 formed into what we know as the loading dock, right? 870 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,640 Like the stage was set, all the plants, animals, 871 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,320 the earth, the waters, everything kind of in a certain order 872 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,880 from broader to finer. 873 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,720 And then the final thing of creation was humanity. 874 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:14,840 And then through our experience in earth, 875 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,680 through our ability to experience duality, 876 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,880 the tree of the knowledge of good and evil 877 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,920 so that we may be as God's. 878 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,000 So as we are dropped off in this classroom, 879 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,200 where from that point, God only kind of interjects 880 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,440 every once in a while when there needed 881 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,880 to be a big course correct. 882 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,320 From that point- 883 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,160 Yes, of course. 884 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,200 Yeah, so from that point, as you noticed 885 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,160 that the consciousness of mankind offers the ability 886 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,520 to stay the same, to fall into degradation, to funnel up. 887 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,200 It's always there across what we currently observe 888 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,000 as a timeline, the same themes for human possibility 889 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,360 have always and seem to always exist. 890 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,200 Like you can make of life whatever you want to 891 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,200 from a spiritual conscious character level. 892 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000 And then from there, as people choose to lean more 893 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,640 into the revolution to deny their baser instincts, 894 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,680 to deny their physical impulses, 895 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,960 their desire to like be hateful, to be violent, 896 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,760 to be impulsively lustful, all these sort of things, 897 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,880 to give into vices as people choose to move 898 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,200 through right action in the world, through good character, 899 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000 through these applications that lend themselves 900 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,600 to spiritual maturity. 901 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,080 Eventually people get to that point 902 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,560 where they transcend the human experience, 903 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,360 much like Christ did when he left. 904 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,840 And was not just a human anymore, right? 905 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,600 People couldn't touch him the same. 906 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,120 And he mentioned when you are in heaven, 907 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,240 people won't be married like they are on earth. 908 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,240 They'll be like the angels of heaven, 909 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,960 which is existing in a different level 910 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,960 than just base physical union. 911 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,760 People will have that sort of inner harmony 912 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,200 of masculine feminine, that inner androgyny. 913 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,720 It's the two should become one. 914 00:39:55,720 --> 00:40:00,400 Yeah, but and each individual will be not in need 915 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,720 of a companion because it's no longer about procreation. 916 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,160 It's about existing at a different level. 917 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,680 So that imagine the creator creates all these things, 918 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120 creates all these animals, all this stuff, that's great. 919 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,960 Now what do I have? 920 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,840 Well, if I make some children, eventually they may grow up 921 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,480 and be like an equal, so then I won't be alone. 922 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,080 It's like the most layman's way 923 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640 to kind of dumb down that concept. 924 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,000 So as humanity is the bridge 925 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,960 between the corporeal and theorial, 926 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,560 we reach before getting all the way back into total oneness 927 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,040 where there is literally nothing else except the one. 928 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,840 At those higher levels, there's a community of very, 929 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,280 I don't like the word enlightened, 930 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,280 but very evolved expressions of consciousness 931 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,880 that can exist in a sense of community 932 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,600 that allows for that fulfillment of connection 933 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,200 that we are all born with, right? 934 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,720 Like that we're all born with this desire for connection. 935 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,680 God saw that it wasn't good for the man to be alone. 936 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,120 So he made a helpmate, right? 937 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,880 Like the best that I can feel is that this all also stemmed 938 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,840 from God desiring companionship to a degree. 939 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,440 So how can you have a companion with somebody 940 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040 that can't see you on your level, 941 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,360 that can't speak your language, 942 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,360 that can't understand what you understand, right? 943 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,360 Like I can tell some jokes and have some laughs 944 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,040 with my kids when they're three, 945 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,040 but I can't have the same conversations with them 946 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,800 that we can have, right? 947 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680 I can't have the same conversations with somebody 948 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,920 that maybe you guys and your spouse 949 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640 can have the best conversations, right? 950 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,560 Because you are able to connect in every level, 951 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,360 on every way and have no need to hide anything 952 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,080 because you've seen everything, right? 953 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:48,400 So an entire society of people that have collectively 954 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560 absorbed all of the possibilities 955 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,920 that can be experienced at the human level. 956 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,520 So moving to that place where they're able 957 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,360 to perceive telepathically, to heal instantly, 958 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,800 to be able to be seen telepathically 959 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,080 because they have nothing to hide or be embarrassed of 960 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,760 or to feel a need to coerce an outcome 961 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,880 through manipulation or anything like that. 962 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,240 They're just totally able to be seen, right? 963 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,760 Like now imagine Christ, he's like, 964 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,760 look, you guys at this level are just gonna crucify me 965 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,640 and I'm not even gonna fight you over it. 966 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,760 But where I'm going from here, 967 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,480 the people that will be with me will behave, 968 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600 will be operating much differently. 969 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,600 They will be like I am. 970 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,600 They will not be like I hope we could all be here. 971 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,160 I don't change you. 972 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,800 I hold true to my nature, which takes me somewhere else. 973 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,720 And eventually everybody kind of makes their way there also. 974 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,560 And then at that place, there's this community 975 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,480 that is much more God-like, much more Christ-like 976 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,880 and existing in a very fulfilled manner of connection 977 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,480 before kind of finishing those final levels 978 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,080 back into oneness with source. 979 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,880 Well, I think that's the thing that, 980 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,600 to me, one of the most important things 981 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,360 I realized this year is the Garden of Eden 982 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,960 is not just about the tree of knowledge. 983 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,600 It's also about the duality split 984 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,160 between masculine and feminine. 985 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,400 And each human being lives in one of those frames 986 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200 as a dominant pattern. 987 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,760 I'm either dominant masculine or dominant feminine. 988 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,320 And Christ consciousness is the merging of the two. 989 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,640 It's coming into terms with- 990 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,480 It's balance. 991 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:26,320 Yeah. 992 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,840 And that's what we've talked about a lot this year, Rich, 993 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,160 and I think that's what we're experiencing right now. 994 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,000 Right. 995 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,120 I think the masculine has waged war 996 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,280 for 6,000 years around that time. 997 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,880 And we're now shifting into a reality that, 998 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,600 hey, it's gotta be balanced. 999 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:46,760 And we've got social media, 1000 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,280 so everybody's having millions of conversations around it 1001 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,920 of what it means to be masculine and feminine. 1002 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,000 And Christ consciousness is coming along 1003 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,200 and saying, well, guess what, people, it's both. 1004 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,120 You are meant to have both in balance. 1005 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,960 Yeah. 1006 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:03,800 And I think that's where we're at. 1007 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,080 One of the things that I wanted to bring up though, Cleburne, 1008 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,720 because what you were just describing earlier 1009 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,240 seems to be like painting the Gnostics 1010 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:12,360 as actually being right. 1011 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,200 So the Gnostics came along 1012 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,800 in the first or second or third century. 1013 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,520 And there were these Greeks for a long time. 1014 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,240 And so their idea was, 1015 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,000 and one of the reasons why a lot of the Gnostics 1016 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,760 rejected Jesus coming in the flesh 1017 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,120 is because they said flesh is evil, right? 1018 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,160 So you've got a spirit is good and flesh is evil. 1019 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,080 The demiurge is this emanation of the one source, 1020 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,520 like Aristotle had the uncaused cause or the prime mover. 1021 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,920 And so you had pure goodness. 1022 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,440 And then in their emanations of creation, 1023 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,040 things got worse and worse and worse and worse. 1024 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,360 So one of the things that were brought up is 1025 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,000 Christ could not have come in the flesh 1026 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,360 because of course that's evil. 1027 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,320 He only had the appearance of being in the flesh. 1028 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,440 And John in his epistles said, 1029 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,440 that's what Antichrist is. 1030 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,960 Antichrist is somebody who says 1031 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,680 he didn't come in the flesh. 1032 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,160 Then you've got this idea of a lot of Christians saying, 1033 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,400 hey, when we go to die, we're just gonna go into heaven. 1034 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,480 We're gonna be up in the clouds. 1035 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,160 It's just gonna be a state. 1036 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,680 And then a lot of current theologians, 1037 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,400 including Antichrist say, no guys, 1038 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,000 it's gonna be a new heavens and a new earth. 1039 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,120 God isn't destroying anything. 1040 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920 He's actually bringing Jerusalem back. 1041 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,760 He's bringing heaven and Eden back physically 1042 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:23,600 to this planet. 1043 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,240 We're gonna have resurrected bodies. 1044 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,480 But what I'm getting at through all this idea is 1045 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,160 it is about spirit ultimately, isn't it? 1046 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,840 Cleburne, we're ultimately, these spirits are eternal. 1047 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,760 Our souls are eternal. 1048 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,640 This is what passes through time. 1049 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,520 And we've gone through these avatars 1050 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,720 and iterations of experience. 1051 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,120 So which one is it? 1052 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,160 I'm a little confused in that regard. 1053 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,080 At the end of this, I'm gonna touch on how you mentioned 1054 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,920 that there's social media 1055 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,440 and we're having millions of conversations. 1056 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,480 That's an expression of where the collective consciousness 1057 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,360 is currently at that we're this close to existing 1058 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,760 at a mutually agreed psychic level of communication. 1059 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,520 Everything's happening faster, instantaneously 1060 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,920 and more openly, which is why we're moving quicker 1061 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,480 and quicker and quicker. 1062 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,560 Time seems to be moving much faster, right? 1063 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:14,080 Our consciousness is not existing at the slower 1064 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,520 in the mud pace it used to. 1065 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,480 So what you're talking about, 1066 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,040 there are a lot of people that are still trying to make sense 1067 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:26,040 in their logical mind that can easily be tricked, right? 1068 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,280 Like I just shared a few videos 1069 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,600 on my Instagram yesterday about this. 1070 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,120 Just there are endless studies 1071 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,720 that you can watch yourself be tricked 1072 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:35,240 in real time by yourself, right? 1073 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:37,920 Like you all seen the videos 1074 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,720 where somebody's saying something 1075 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:42,600 and then there's a script on a screen and you read it 1076 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,640 and you hear what you're reading. 1077 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,120 And then they change the wording and the audio is the same. 1078 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,320 What's being said is the same, 1079 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,880 but your brain will hear what the words say, right? 1080 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,120 So there's all kinds of stuff like that. 1081 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,200 So trying to make sense of the divine 1082 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,200 through our five physical senses is dumb. 1083 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,760 We already know that we can only perceive a tiny fraction 1084 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,960 of the observably known light and sound waves in existence. 1085 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,120 Right, like if I walk outside and I stick my hand up, 1086 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,280 I can feel the heat of the sun on my palm. 1087 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,720 I'm not touching the sun directly, 1088 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:17,880 but something between the sun and me 1089 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,040 is touching right now. 1090 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,800 There's something that is reaching across time and space 1091 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,480 that is allowing us to be connected. 1092 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,280 I can feel the heat of it, right? 1093 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,880 So that thing that my eyes can't see, but my hands can feel, 1094 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,880 that is what we need to start being able to accept 1095 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,560 that we can see just not with these eyes. 1096 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,000 As our ability to feel our aura, 1097 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,800 our electromagnetic field increases, 1098 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,800 we will be able to see the field of which reality is. 1099 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,480 Perceive the field, yeah. 1100 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,600 You're actually seeing it with your third eye, 1101 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,440 if you would, yes. 1102 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,600 Yeah, so the people that are like, 1103 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,560 how do we get from here to there? 1104 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,080 Real quick, this is Jacob's ladder, right? 1105 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,880 He went to sleep, he had a vision of a ladder, 1106 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,520 angels coming and going, right? 1107 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,520 There are constant steps that are locked, right? 1108 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,840 Like that is a very simple way to imagine it. 1109 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,120 There is some perceivable link 1110 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,160 that takes every tiniest step from this level 1111 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,560 to the next level to the next, between here and the divine. 1112 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,760 The story of Christ, the person of Christ 1113 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,520 is that ultimate expression where, 1114 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,280 as the Bible is the story of the evolution of consciousness, 1115 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,120 we're in the early Old Testament, 1116 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,520 man and God were like a mirror, right? 1117 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,040 So man was like at the earliest level, 1118 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,960 from the ground, from the thorns in this thistle, 1119 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,280 by the sweat of your brow, your work, 1120 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,280 and this is for your sake, 1121 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,320 mankind's consciousness started right here. 1122 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,880 So since we were here, 1123 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,080 and since mankind and God are always a mirror, 1124 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,480 God was so far away, 1125 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,960 and it was this divine thing that's so much better than us, 1126 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,280 or so judgmental of us, and so like, 1127 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,440 right, my name is Jealous, like what kind of- 1128 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,280 Jealous God, yep. 1129 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,960 It's pretty egotistical. 1130 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,600 That seems like a match for man, right? 1131 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,920 Like to think of at that level. 1132 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,440 And then we have Jacob, 1133 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,920 who has a story about Jacob's ladder. 1134 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,920 He wrestled the angel at Peniel, 1135 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,360 wrestled an angel all night until you bless me. 1136 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,440 I'm not letting go until you bless me. 1137 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,960 And they asked the angel, what's your name? 1138 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,800 And the angel said, 1139 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560 well, where is it that you're asking me? 1140 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,520 And so he got his blessing. 1141 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,880 He said, this is Peniel, 1142 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,960 and the sun shone on him, right? 1143 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,720 So that's a story about a man who wrestled with spirituality 1144 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:37,920 until the thing that can't be explained 1145 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,840 made itself clear to him, and the light hit him. 1146 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,080 His Peniel gland was open. 1147 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,480 He was blessed at Peniel, right? 1148 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,600 That's what that story is talking about, 1149 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,080 like waking up, the story of Moses asking, who are you? 1150 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,400 And God said, I am. 1151 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,440 Now go and tell them, I am sent you. 1152 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,240 That's gathering the ability to speak on your own authority. 1153 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:58,760 I am, I am, Sidney, I'm here, let my people go. 1154 00:49:58,760 --> 00:49:59,600 There's a whole other story 1155 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,200 about the crossing of the desert. 1156 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,040 We'll get into that one. 1157 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,360 But effectively, Christ is the angel. 1158 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,520 Christ is that point, whereas mankind was here 1159 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,800 and God was here, and Abraham's like, God's telling me, 1160 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,320 I gotta sacrifice my son. 1161 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,560 He's playing these games with me just to see how loyal I am, 1162 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,040 but I am. 1163 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,560 And as mankind was moving up, now it's like, you know what? 1164 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,520 That was my dad. 1165 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,760 I'm gonna wrestle with an angel. 1166 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,120 You give me a blessing, right? 1167 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,960 And then there's Moses. 1168 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,200 It's like, I don't know what's going on, 1169 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,080 but I am going to free my people. 1170 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,600 And as that happens, how does God's behavior change? 1171 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,280 It keeps getting closer and closer to man, 1172 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,560 more compassionate, more willing, 1173 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960 until they meet in Jesus. 1174 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,680 And then it becomes hard to tell which is which. 1175 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,720 Is he a man or is he God? 1176 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,960 And then from that point, 1177 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,920 what is God's involvement with humanity 1178 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,720 for the whole rest of the time after Jesus came? 1179 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,040 God was like, this was the example. 1180 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,600 This is where we become one. 1181 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,520 And from here, there hasn't been a big need 1182 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,520 for any more stories of floods and firebombing Babylon 1183 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,320 and all that kind of stuff. 1184 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,520 So that is effectively it. 1185 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,520 The story of the Elevator of Consciousness. 1186 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,720 We start here, we perceive God as somewhere separate. 1187 00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:12,560 The gap closes and closes and closes 1188 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,200 until you have Jesus, which is both. 1189 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,080 Was here, was only here as a metaphor. 1190 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,920 It doesn't matter how people look at it. 1191 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,920 What matters is the entire world in which we live 1192 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440 is revolving around that centerpiece 1193 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,280 through which everybody can draw back to 1194 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:32,280 as the ultimate template of what we are becoming. 1195 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,360 And that is Christ Consciousness. 1196 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,600 I think we're entering into an age 1197 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,520 where the barriers between the two 1198 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,080 are dramatically being rendered unusable. 1199 00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:47,480 It's like, it's virtually, like people are waking up to this. 1200 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,240 I think this is what a lot of people are waking up to. 1201 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:53,920 Cleburne, you are always one of our most fascinating guests. 1202 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,800 I appreciate you so much for coming on with us today. 1203 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,960 And Rich, thanks for being here too. 1204 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,800 I know you were feeling a little sick. 1205 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,080 Yeah. 1206 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,040 Again, you always have an open spot here, brother, 1207 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,200 because I think you're one of the few voices 1208 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,360 that I see consistently going back to love and truth, 1209 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:16,520 but mixed with a really deep understanding of science 1210 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,680 and how the body works. 1211 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,160 And I appreciate having you on 1212 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,880 because you have such a deep sense of connectivity 1213 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,960 to these ideas. 1214 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,320 So thank you for joining us. 1215 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:26,160 Yeah, thanks, yes. 1216 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,160 And Cleburne, also just thank you 1217 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,800 for the additional edification. 1218 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,400 I didn't try any fasting prior. 1219 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,840 By the way, my times have shifted. 1220 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,680 I used to be in the early part of the month, 1221 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,360 back in, let's say July, and then all of a sudden in August, 1222 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,680 it moved to like 22nd. 1223 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,280 So it's really weird. 1224 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,680 It's, I'm like, what's up with that? 1225 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,520 I gotta wait longer. 1226 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,360 So- 1227 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,280 Yeah, our calendar doesn't follow the moon, 1228 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,040 like previous cultures in history, 1229 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,920 like the ancient Hebrews were a moon culture, right? 1230 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,480 Of course. 1231 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,920 That's what like Sabbath was. 1232 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,320 Sabbath was sundown to sundown 1233 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,360 because their day started at sundown, right? 1234 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,280 They were a moon culture and all this stuff. 1235 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,040 So the moon moves through a 27 and a half, 1236 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,880 a 28 and a half day cycle. 1237 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,440 Our calendars are 30, 31. 1238 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,160 So yeah, it starts like, you know, 1239 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,560 it doesn't line up on the same days each month, 1240 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,080 but the moon is the, you know, 1241 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600 like the calendars and the clock we made up. 1242 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,160 And if God has such a thing as a clock and a calendar, 1243 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,920 it would be the stars and the moon, 1244 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,440 which in Genesis one chapter, chapter one, verse 11, 1245 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,240 God said, let there be lights in the firmament for signs 1246 00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:32,960 and for seasons and for years 1247 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,960 and to divide the day from the night, but for signs, right? 1248 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:36,800 That's how- 1249 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,480 The Magi. 1250 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,040 The Magi, that's how sailors used to, you know, 1251 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,200 get across the oceans and stuff like that. 1252 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,400 So just culturally, we have stopped looking at the stars 1253 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,600 in a wholesome natural way, 1254 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,440 like a way in which we were meant to be connected 1255 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,440 to the way things operate. 1256 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:57,880 It's not because we've lost our way, 1257 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,480 but like you said, right now, 1258 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,080 we're having conversations at such an expanse, 1259 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,080 like the rate at which we're shifting 1260 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,200 is about to be like almost instant. 1261 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,680 The first time we talked, I mentioned that, 1262 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000 you know, six months from now, 1263 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,400 the way in which you experience the world, 1264 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,000 the things that are of importance to you or whatever 1265 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,120 won't look anything like it did at that point. 1266 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,920 And I don't know how much that held up 1267 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,080 in y'all's world or anything, 1268 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,760 but mine is wildly different 1269 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,560 than where I was existing six months ago. 1270 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,120 The pace at which time just seems to fly by 1271 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,600 stopped making sense in like 2019, I guess. 1272 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,680 It's just zooming right by at this point. 1273 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,120 How's it already almost 2025, but- 1274 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,520 I know it has done that. 1275 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,440 Yeah, but I think everybody's in a pregnant pause right now 1276 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,360 waiting for something. 1277 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,880 I think everybody's like, something's gotta change. 1278 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,040 There's- I can't believe you just said- 1279 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,040 It does feel like that. 1280 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,240 Yeah, I can't believe you just said pregnant. 1281 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:01,640 That's, you know, but again, that's like the, 1282 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,000 so you remember how the first time we chatted, 1283 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,280 we were talking about how the word matrix comes from, 1284 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,640 literally comes from the Bible and it means womb. 1285 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,480 And if you think about that, 1286 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,040 when we were in our mother's womb forming, taking shape, 1287 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,360 once we reach maximum capacity for that womb, 1288 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:19,960 we have to come out, right? 1289 00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,240 When our head starts poking through, 1290 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:22,400 we call that crowning. 1291 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:23,240 Crowning. 1292 00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,600 Now in Christianity, we call it being born again. 1293 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,920 In Eastern religions, once your crown chakra opens, 1294 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,760 that's the same thing. 1295 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,680 So when you are born again, 1296 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,760 is the same as when your crown chakra opens. 1297 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,880 Crowning, crown, right? 1298 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,520 That's kind of what's happening. 1299 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,440 So in this womb that we've been in, 1300 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,240 this womb of the human experience, 1301 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:44,440 many of us have reached term. 1302 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,000 We are at term, we are crowning, right? 1303 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,560 Like we're birthing into another level of experience. 1304 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,080 And it's many people all at once. 1305 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,440 This is the second coming of Christ. 1306 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,760 The coming on the clouds, 1307 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,840 which was the colloquialism that was a military term 1308 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,920 that meant when you're on guard at a city wall, 1309 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,200 and you saw people invading, 1310 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,920 if there was a bunch of them and they were coming fast, 1311 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,600 they would kick up a lot of dust. 1312 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,240 So you would, clouds of dust, right? 1313 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:10,640 So you would go down and report and say, 1314 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:11,800 hey, these guys are coming 1315 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,840 and they're coming on the clouds, 1316 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,680 which meant a big intentional force is heading our way. 1317 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,800 So when Jesus comes back on the clouds, 1318 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,240 it just means like in a big way, right? 1319 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:23,520 So that is spiritually what's been sweeping 1320 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:24,360 over so many people. 1321 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:25,920 So many people are at term spiritually, 1322 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,080 their crown chakra is opening to allow them to be born again. 1323 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,280 And the collective consciousness of society, 1324 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,320 just like a cell in the body, 1325 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,840 starts to duplicate all the coding within it, 1326 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,920 and then it splits into two, right? 1327 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,240 So sometimes it's an exact duplicate, 1328 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:43,720 and then one dies and the other lives. 1329 00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:45,800 Sometimes, like in the womb, 1330 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,920 one cells, they form and they split, 1331 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,720 and then one starts to become part of a bone, 1332 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,320 and one starts to become part of a muscle, right? 1333 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,440 They become a different thing. 1334 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,400 So the collective consciousness of society right now 1335 00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,040 is truly doing that where a lot of us are existing 1336 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,480 in this space where we are existing, 1337 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,040 where the things that are important and of value to us 1338 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,360 is this way. 1339 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,560 And there's gonna be a whole other little pocket 1340 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,680 that just, we don't perceive where they go, 1341 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,680 what they do, how that works. 1342 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:18,440 Yeah, this is a very strange time to be alive. 1343 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,000 It's one of the richest, most interesting times to be alive. 1344 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,640 I think we are in, I've told Richness, 1345 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,320 I think we are in an apocalypse. 1346 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,480 And I think the apocalypse is the unveiling. 1347 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,760 And for those that are masculine dominant, 1348 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,160 we've been in a 6,000-year age of masculine dominance, 1349 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,840 and it's gonna shift dramatically. 1350 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,600 And for those who get stuck there, it's gonna be awful 1351 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,880 because it's gonna be this experience of like, 1352 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,200 wait a minute, how do I make room for the feminine? 1353 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:55,920 Because Jesus, the Christ consciousness of Jesus said, 1354 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,040 we're in grace, people. 1355 00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,440 Like stop worrying about it, we're in grace. 1356 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:01,240 There's this thing called grace, 1357 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,960 but it's taken us really 2,000 years for the church 1358 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,360 to kind of acknowledge grace. 1359 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,360 Like I grew up and that shift is almost like a call bullshit 1360 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,720 and say, okay, people, we need to be about grace 1361 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,280 because that's what empowers the Christ consciousness. 1362 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,880 And I think it's showing up all over the place 1363 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,440 where people like, what's going on in Israel, 1364 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,640 which always captures my attention. 1365 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,280 Just even in the United States, 1366 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,960 which sort of the dominant masculine kind of idea, 1367 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,320 it's crumbling in a really interesting way. 1368 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,080 So the matrix is dying. 1369 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,840 It is, yeah. 1370 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,960 Yeah, it's dying. 1371 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,040 Cleaver and you are always an amazing guest. 1372 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:46,860 I appreciate you brother. 1373 00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:48,640 Thank you for coming here today. 1374 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,180 Rich, any final words? 1375 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,160 No, I'm good with that last bit 1376 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,680 of just about the details behind things. 1377 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,080 The fasting and the intentionality at the beginning 1378 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,240 is gonna be a new one for me. 1379 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,880 So I'm hoping to dive into it this month. 1380 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,560 I really appreciate how practical, 1381 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,120 how tapped in you are spiritually, 1382 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,560 but at the same time, how practical, 1383 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,840 I think you wanna make this in your book. 1384 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,920 I can just tell the intentionality that you're giving it 1385 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,060 is to say there's a lot of crazy ephemeral stuff 1386 00:59:19,060 --> 00:59:20,400 that is a lot of research. 1387 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,000 You've talked about thousands of years 1388 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,640 of different things, of practices, 1389 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,680 but you're bringing that to something that can be useful. 1390 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,480 And I love where you're going. 1391 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,280 It's because people can spend their whole life 1392 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,080 becoming archeologists and historians and all this stuff 1393 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,240 and trying to intellectualize their way to God, 1394 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,420 but we can establish in two minutes 1395 00:59:41,420 --> 00:59:44,200 that the brain can't be trusted anyways. 1396 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,800 So how do you really connect with God? 1397 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,760 We've gotta shut up and just sit still. 1398 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,960 So that's it. 1399 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,780 Anytime I see a door opening, 1400 00:59:50,780 --> 00:59:53,520 it starts pointing to a lot of evidence 1401 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,060 that gives my brain permission. 1402 00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:56,720 Some people are like, oh, there's some evidence. 1403 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,280 I need to study further, 1404 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,420 but how long do you have to go until you say, 1405 01:00:01,420 --> 01:00:02,260 okay, wait a minute. 1406 01:00:02,260 --> 01:00:05,440 I've seen enough that confirms I can touch, 1407 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,320 I can be in the embrace of God right now. 1408 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:10,140 How do I do that? 1409 01:00:10,140 --> 01:00:10,980 That's it. 1410 01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:13,920 So it's a process of going inward 1411 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,760 to stop looking out at the hologram 1412 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,280 and start moving inward into that connection of oneness 1413 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,440 with the great I am. 1414 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:23,680 That's what it's really all about. 1415 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,520 I love it. 1416 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,460 Yeah. 1417 01:00:25,460 --> 01:00:26,700 Cleaver and Walgreens people, 1418 01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,820 he's always one of our most fascinating guests. 1419 01:00:28,820 --> 01:00:29,800 I love it. 1420 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,220 To all of our listeners out there, 1421 01:00:31,220 --> 01:00:33,120 this has been another wonderful episode 1422 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,600 of Living in the Matrix. 1423 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,160 We always talk about really important subjects. 1424 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,400 That's the thing that I love about our podcast the most. 1425 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,120 Cleaver and thank you, Rich. 1426 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:43,020 It's good to see you brother. 1427 01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:44,120 To all of our listeners, 1428 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520 please comment and let us know, reach out. 1429 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,120 We'd love to hear from you. 1430 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,840 And follow us on Instagram, livinginthematrix. 1431 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,360 It's the weekend here. 1432 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,920 This is a special episode on Sunday. 1433 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,160 Cleaver and thank you. 1434 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,400 And to everybody out there, much love.