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Welcome to Living in the Matrix. I'm Jonathan and I'm left of center.

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And I'm Rich and I tend to lean a little bit more to the right.

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But the bottom line is, is together we try to look for the balance

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of what it means to be human in today's world.

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Welcome to Living in the Matrix, everyone.

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I'm Jonathan. This is my co-host, Rich. Say hello, Rich.

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Everybody great to be back.

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Friday afternoon. It's March. It's Women's Month.

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Right. Let's go. Right.

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Happy to have Audrey Johns as a guest on today's podcast.

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Really looking forward to it.

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Thanks so much for having me, guys.

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I'm actually wearing my long matrix sweater today.

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I'm themed out to be on the podcast.

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That's awesome.

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I it's more Trinity, but, you know, whatever you whatever you want.

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OK, so I'm going to start there and say, have you ever seen The Matrix?

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Yes. OK, good.

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So you are an official member.

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Who what character are you in the movie?

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Who are you?

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Who do you resonate with the most?

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I mean, we all want to be Trinity because she's gorgeous

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and she's a strong woman.

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But no, I mean, I think I'm

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I think I'm Neo, you know, I'm

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I'm stumbling through.

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I'm I don't know what the hell is going on,

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but I'm going to keep pushing forward and somehow throughout this, you know,

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I don't know. I feel like and I know as women,

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we're not supposed to talk ourselves up, but I feel like I'm

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at least attempting to be a badass.

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So I guess that would be it.

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We're awesome. Awesome.

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So why don't we start with you have a ridiculously amazing

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weight loss journey that you've kind of turned into this

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helping other people.

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Why don't you give us sort of a summary to intro our audience

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so that they can understand your work and why you chose this journey?

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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So I I lost my job in the big housing crisis.

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What? 14 years ago, 15 years ago, I was a brand new mommy.

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I was horribly overweight.

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I was close to 300 pounds and I'm like five foot three.

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So I'm really unhealthy, unable to play with my kid,

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unable to move comfortably, horrible self-esteem.

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And I wanted to teach myself how to cook.

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The last gift my mother had passed away, the last gift

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she gave me was a cookbook.

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And I thought, well, I'm going to I'm just going to cook from it.

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I'm just going to teach myself how to cook through this cookbook.

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And it was Nigella Lawson's How to Be a Domestic Goddess.

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And I ended up learning that I love to cook.

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And I continued my journey at this point.

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The Internet was still kind of a baby, kind of like how podcasting is right now.

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So good on you guys for having a podcast.

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And I found some clean eating websites and books and clean

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eating wasn't really a thing at the time.

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You know, I don't even think it had that name.

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And I had read that diet cokes were really bad for you.

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And diet cokes were my thing.

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And so I thought, well, I'll try it for one week.

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You know, what's the worst that could happen?

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I didn't change anything else about my diet, but I lost 10 pounds in one week

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just by giving up diet sodas.

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Just like, boom.

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That's obvious.

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Isn't that amazing?

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And I love to tell that story because so many people are hooked on it.

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I'm like, honestly, I'd rather one of my readers drink a real Coca-Cola.

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It's just hold yourself accountable for the calories.

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Audrey, what you did is you called your own bluff and gave yourself an opportunity

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to learn something new.

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That's what most people don't understand is weight shift journeys

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begin with giving yourself credibility and opportunity.

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You gave yourself the idea that what if I just didn't do this for a week?

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And that fasting that, that you separated yourself from that diet coke,

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which was probably something you had regular.

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They don't separate themselves enough to get themselves new opportunities.

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So I love that you did that.

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And it kind of opened up my mind and I thought, well, there's more to this.

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And so then I slowly started removing the, you know, lean cuisines and the,

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and given lean cuisines, they're trying to be better now, but it was just all crap.

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and I started losing weight so fast.

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It was just falling off of me.

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It was so easy.

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Let me ask you a question about that from your perspective, because I know

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the quality of food is important to what you're going to talk about.

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Is the diet industry world filled with crap?

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And I almost, and I'm so glad I'm getting this opportunity to talk about it because

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I don't want to be part of the weight loss industry.

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I want to be like, I don't know the black sheep of it or, you know, the disruptor,

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because it's, it's horribly unhealthy.

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It it's horrible for self-esteem, for mental health.

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It's just, and I love one of my greatest analogies and I know I'm skipping ahead,

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but one of my greatest analogies, and I know I'm talking to two men,

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but I'm sure there's plenty of women here.

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The last five pounds is probably just boob weight.

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I mean, honestly, just filling yourself like the last five pounds.

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So many people will lose a hundred pounds.

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And then they're so fixated that I can't lose these last five pounds.

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And I'm like, can you just take a step back and realize what you've done?

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fixating on five more pounds.

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Just stop your body's done.

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You're doing great.

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Let's start building some muscles now.

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One of our favorite books is called letting go.

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And it's a whole different kind of story, but we definitely recognize that getting

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detached from those things.

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You're living in the moment.

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You're doing the things that you should be doing instead of focusing too much on

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the outcomes.

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And so I love that concept.

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And that's the reason why I was so excited to have you on when I was, you

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know, Jonathan, I get lots of suggestions.

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We have lots of guests who suggest other folks.

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And when I saw, you know, this idea of lose weight by eating, I'm thinking, okay,

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this is already outside of the status quo.

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How do you lose weight by eating?

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It seems like the antithesis.

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How?

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And like I said before, we've had people who they could be, you know,

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Psychonauts doing psychedelics and going outside that box.

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It could be just somebody who's trying to get rid of big pharma, you know, and

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eat good food and take care of yourself with diet and looking at your blood type

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and taking supplements to help that instead of relying on big pharma.

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So I love how we've kind of segued into this idea of you're that black sheep.

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But we love this because this is where real kinds of learnings come into.

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And we're talking about there's a lot of also biohacks and nutritional hacks that

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are actually not healthy that are just out there on Twitter.

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And they're like, hey, take this or do that.

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And sometimes they could be counterproductive.

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So help us understand maybe more about, well, maybe continue on your journey, but

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I'd love to figure out what are the main components of your diet that really made

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a difference because I've been trying to lose weight myself and I've had a hard

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time getting beyond a certain plateau myself.

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So I'd love to hear, you know, your steps or a little bit more of your journey.

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Well, what I found when I removed the diet sodas and stopped eating the

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processed foods, I found that I was actually eating more, more food because

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those little lean cuisines are just like nothing.

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I had been maybe eating a thousand calories a day, starving myself and gaining weight.

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I found I was actually eating more food.

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It was still a low amount of calories, but when you're having mostly

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fruits and vegetables are really not that many calories.

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I found that I was just eating more and that's kind of where lose weight by eating comes into.

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I found foods that naturally boost your metabolism, that naturally turn off your

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hunger receptors, which is why we're still hungry after we eat things is because we're

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not getting our body what it means.

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Well, essentially eating is essentially a dopamine hit.

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I think about this all the time because eating is not just getting full, although I'm,

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my body is attracted to being full, like overstuffed and, uh, but it's a dopamine hit.

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It is basic core level.

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It's your bot.

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You want some flavor or compensation for something.

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And that's the part is it's one of the easiest coping mechanisms there is,

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is to just eat because it tastes good.

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That's the fact sugar tastes good.

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I agree.

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I agree.

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you eat, the more carbs you crave.

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And then, you know, they're all interchangeable, but I love food and I didn't want to give up flavor.

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And so I started creating these recipes and they took off.

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And if you go to the lose weight by eating websites, just really easy, just type in lose

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weight by eating, you will find things on there like a low calorie protein packed shamrock

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shake right now, because that's what people want.

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You know, they want the junk food, but can we make it just as tasty and healthier and

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not just low calorie, but healthier.

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And I have this analogy for years.

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I've been trying to make a really low calorie, healthy onion ring and I can't do it.

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I, I can do it, but it's not as good as the original.

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So here's my, my recommendation, have the fricking onion rings and then move on.

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Like once in a while, you have to give your body what you really want and just forgive

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yourself for it.

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And even if you're on a diet, like don't punish yourself because you had an onion ring.

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Don't skip your next meal.

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Don't say, I'm going to start again, again on Friday or again on Monday, which I really

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want to come back to because I think I've figured out the secret to weight loss and

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that's part of it.

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But it's that just have the foods that you want, but try to have them healthier.

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And if I can't make them healthier than once in a while splurge and that's okay.

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100% believe in those.

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Especially like even when you're doing keto, people that are doing really like intermittent

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fasting or keto to have a cheat day or a cheat weekend, you know, dive in because you're

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doing hard things throughout the week and then make that happen.

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And that's, this is all part of life.

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I mean, it could be when you meditate, right?

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People get frustrated when they're trying to meditate and they get distracted.

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And it's like, oh, it's like, no, any meditation is better than not meditating at all.

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And so let it go.

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And then just kind of go onto the next one.

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So awesome.

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Well, we would love to follow your progress on any other kinds of food that we really crave

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like tater tots.

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Maybe you can make a better version of tater tots instead of an onion ring.

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So looking forward to that.

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I think I can.

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I've done french fries.

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I've done hash browns.

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I welcome the challenge.

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Let's try it.

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I have the weight loss secret for you.

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You're going to screw up, but it's what you do after.

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Like you are human.

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And I have talked to big, huge stars in the weight loss world, like Bob Harper from biggest

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loser about this.

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It is part of the journey.

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You will screw up.

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You'll have the onion rings.

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You'll go to crumble cookie like I totally did yesterday.

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It's what you do after.

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It's not punishing yourself.

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It's part of the journey.

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Keep going.

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Like you're going to screw up and it's not when you mess up that.

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That's not what defines you.

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It's it's what you how you grow from it.

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the the blue pill, the red pill.

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I feel like I've taken the red pill and I now know this truth of life that it's I feel

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like I've I've learned something.

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We are going to screw up.

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We are human.

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It's what we do after.

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So that's the biggest message I can bring to everyone today.

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OK, so let me take it back to the beginning because I want to set this up for our listeners.

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You are obviously not overweight by any means if you're watching this.

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You are overweight by any means if you're watching on YouTube.

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You are a beautiful woman, but your journey sort of starts from when you were 170 pounds

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and 270.

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270.

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Yes.

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So so my my dad was obese and it's interesting.

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I've looked back and said, what was the mindset?

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Going through your life at that time that got you in a space where you were 270.

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I was I had very low self-esteem.

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I was in an abusive relationship.

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Food was my comfort.

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And I kind of feel like.

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When a lot of women in my generation and in generations before me have been put on diets

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by their parents and whether they told us we were on a diet or or didn't like my mother

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didn't I found the books in her room.

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It's kind of a you're kind of rebelling against your parents even still in adulthood.

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Like you hurt me so bad with that.

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And I know that wasn't your intention.

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I know your intentions were good.

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But telling me I'm not good enough when I'm a size six in high school and given.

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Yes I was heavier than everyone else in high school at a size six.

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I'm a size six today and half of the women hearing this would be like damn you go girl.

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So not accepting me for who I was as a young girl I think really messed me up.

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And I've been doing a lot of therapy to get past all of that.

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So I think it was a combination of still rebelling.

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Abusive relationship.

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Not knowing how to eat.

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Like nobody ever taught me how to eat.

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Nobody ever taught me this is a healthier option or hey it's fine to have the treat

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once in a while but let's eat healthier.

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What was your diet like growing up?

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Oh man my mom god lover could not cook.

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It was it was we were Italian family so there were a lot of carbs.

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But it was you know it was a lot of fast food.

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Really it came down to convenience food.

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So it was fast food.

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It was frozen meals.

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It was shake and bake and I helped.

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It was stove top stuffing.

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It was convenience foods because she didn't know how to cook because nobody ever taught

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her how to cook which is just baffling to me coming from an Italian family.

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That was my basic diet and it was unsurprising that that's what I brought to myself in in

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my adulthood and I feel like that's a real missing piece.

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Our kids are almost never taught how to eat and how to cook in school and if they are

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you know that's such a small amount of time and they're there with their friends and they're

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you know they're distracted and having fun which is great but it's our job as parents

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or as guardians or as aunts and uncles or even as big sisters and big brothers to just

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if nothing else be a good example but even more so have your kids sit at your kitchen

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island while you cook dinner.

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They kind of passively learn about food.

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I tell my kids how to cook.

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They love it.

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Yeah.

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Hell yeah.

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And this country hasn't done anybody any favors right.

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You look at like the Crisco and the seed oils and all of the kinds of automated processed

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things that we've inculcated right.

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You go back into the 20s and 30s and 40s people were eating you know probably pasture raised

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you know grains or a feed you know proteins and just cooking food.

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My dad drank raw milk when he was you know younger and so the idea of organic wasn't

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even probably thought about because everything was organic by default and then you've got

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how does America support Cargill and Monsanto and do mass produce things and cut corners

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right.

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What I heard about on Robert F. Kennedy he talked about glyphosate and I don't know

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if you know what glyphosate is but it's part of Roundup and so it's something that really

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is a toxin to our system.

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So imagine a big corn field and in the past people used to use hand sprays manual labor

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would go in and take out all the weeds with Roundup and they'd spray it locally on the

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actual weed.

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Now what they do is they make genetically modified corn that is not affected by Roundup

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and they just spray the whole freaking you know farm and that means it goes into everything

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you eat your cereal everything and so that's just one component of glyphosate let alone

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you know eat corn flakes for the rest of your life is what people are suggesting right.

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And these are terrible things and I think I think I think we're starting to see the

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tide turn a little bit but we need more voices like yours.

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Audrey to kind of let me tell on this rich because I think what I want to call out is

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you reached a point in your life where you took the red pill.

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What made you take the red pill because I think a big part of the show is helping people

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break out of the matrix and I think ultimately that matrix is largely stories we tell ourselves

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and hear that control us.

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How did you break out.

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I think I wanted to take my life back.

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I had a brand new baby my my abuser kind of flipped the switch when I was when I was pregnant

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they abusers typically wait until they have you locked into something into a home or a

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child and and I'm not saying you know he was hitting me while I was pregnant that's not

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what I mean but I think I started to see it and I needed to get out of it and I was trying

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to find my own voice because I was at that point being suppressed and I I I may have

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a different answer for you in another year after more therapy because I reserve the right

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to change my answer but I think that's what it was.

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That's awesome.

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So essentially are you saying you felt like you got pushed out and is no I feel like I

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pulled myself out.

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Okay good.

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I feel like I you know was like wanted to be a phoenix rising from the ashes but instead

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I just grabbed myself by the hair and pulled myself out slowly painfully but I did it.

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You remember sort of the catalyst for like that moment when you kind of shifted or was

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it a gradual process.

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I think it was a gradual process but one thing that really hits me is I started losing the

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weight slowly and some mommies at the you know the dance studio we brought our little

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babies to basically we're noticing the weight loss because they'd see me once a week and

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they asked me you know what are you doing and I had a hard time articulating it because

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nobody knew what clean eating was at the time and I said well I'll just start a website

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and I'll just throw up what I'm eating on there and we'll just go from there.

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Well in that moment I had I had had a hand surgery and so I was typing one handed and

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my my ex was very anti me on this website.

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He wanted me to be off the website.

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He didn't want me to be doing this.

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I couldn't have my own thing.

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It was my exit strategy and I think I just kind of was like no I finally have something

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for me and I need to do this and this is important for me and I think I kind of pushed through

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and I think I think that's what got me out of the relationship eventually to slowly slowly

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but yeah I think it was gradual but I think it was when I when I received some resistance

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is when I kind of fought back.

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Good good.

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I'm glad to hear that because I have four daughters.

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So I always I like I have a feminine heart to some respect because I I have had women

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around me my entire life and I realized that journey of stepping out and owning yourself

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outside of a man is is one of the most important journeys I think a woman can ever make and

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you captured your own heart.

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You said hey I want to fight for me and I'm glad you did that because more women need

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to do that.

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More women need to say fuck you abuser.

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You need to get the fuck out.

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I'm going to say right now I have friends who have serious abuse in their relationship.

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My current wife was abused for 20 years.

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It's time for women to stand up and say no more.

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Like let's do a me too movement on that.

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Starting today.

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That would be perfect.

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Hell yeah.

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I would love that.

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And when I think you're helping women find that that's what I'm trying to say is you

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are you're helping women find that courage.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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And it's not something I talk about very often.

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I'm actually surprised that I've I'm being so vulnerable with all of you but I genuinely

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want to help people out there because you can go to the website and you can read my

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story but what can I bring to this podcast that's new and different.

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And you know I don't want to throw my my my daughter's dad under the bus too much.

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I mean that's just that's not fair to her.

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But yeah it's not OK to be held down to be suppressed.

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It's not OK to you know dress the way he wants you to dress and to talk to only the people

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that you're allowed to talk to.

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And you can't be friends with those people.

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So if you're in a relationship where you're being told how to dress you're being told

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where to work you're being told what to cook.

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I mean unless it's his birthday then by all means you know do the right thing.

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But you know and if you're being told you can't be friends with people or if you were

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moved out of state to get away from your your support system you need to take a step back

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and think about what's really happening and maybe go talk to a therapist about it just

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so that you can get a different perspective.

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At what point so you were heavy and you started coming out of that for our listeners who are

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struggling with that period of life.

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It's that that period of making the courageous step not just even out of abuse but to eat

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well.

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How did you do that.

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You know I think it's so important that you you talked about food and you talked about

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abuse because I did have a bad relationship with food almost an abusive relationship with

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food and the way I came out of it was I I learned how to eat healthier.

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I kept moving towards I and as I had noted I had had a hand surgery.

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I had been in this horrible car accident.

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I had a nerve condition that I had gotten from my hand surgeries.

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It's called CRPS.

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It's very similar to fibromyalgia and my hip was messed up and my back was messed up.

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I could not work out.

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I could not everybody says the only way you can lose weight is workout.

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Working out is so great for your health and it can help you tone up as you lose weight

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but you don't need it to lose weight.

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You lose weight in the kitchen and I lost 150 pounds in 11 months without working out

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just by eating healthy.

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That was it.

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I stopped having the fake foods.

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No more fake sugars.

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So no more diet cokes.

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No more crystal light.

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No more you know the little little blue and the little pink packets that you put in in

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your coffee.

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None of that crap.

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No processed foods.

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So basically I would I tell people if you can't pronounce something on an ingredient

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label it's probably not safe and I even tell people stop looking at the nutrition label

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first look at the ingredients first.

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Yes the nutrition label is important but it's the ingredients that count.

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Tell us tell our listeners why.

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Well because your body doesn't know what to do with chemicals.

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We are organic.

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We're organic and if you give your body say for instance some of those drinks some of

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you know the really bad protein powders some of and I'm not saying all protein powders

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are bad but they have fillers in them.

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You know some of the yogurts the really highly processed yogurts have fillers in them.

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They thicken them up.

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Do you really think your body can differentiate where no no we're not supposed to thicken

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you up.

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We're only supposed to thicken the yogurt up.

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So either one your body doesn't know what to do with it or two your body goes okay I'm

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going to thicken you up.

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So it's if you eat all natural foods your body knows what to do with it and very often

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you'll find that with these fake sugars and I've actually gotten almost in trouble a few

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times for some of my articles on my website I've actually taken one down because these

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fake sugars have got the lobbyists behind them and let's just be honest if you have

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a lobbyist behind you let's just take a step back and think follow the money.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So yeah it really came down to just eating healthy and and back to the last five pounds.

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I really wanted to be 120 pounds and I never got there and at some point I just said I'm

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really happy with the weight loss I've had and did I have body dysmorphia for a long

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time.

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Yes.

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You know I would look in the in the mirror and I still saw a heavy person but I felt

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better and I was eating healthier and my skin cleared up and I was able to play with my

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daughter and eventually after maybe a year the body is dysmorphia kind of lifted and

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the confidence slowly started coming back and I've for the most part I have kept off

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the hundred and fifty pounds for the last 14 years.

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I did have a hysterectomy a few years ago and that kind of pushed me into early menopause

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and you know so I did gain like five pounds and on when you're five three five pounds

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looks like 20 so you know I've had my ups and downs but in this moment.

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But they're not crippling.

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No no and in this moment I'm trying to you know you think about you look back at a picture

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of yourself when you thought you were heavy and you're like damn if only I could be that

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weight again I'm trying to put my you know put those glasses on and think what am I going

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to think 20 years from now when I'm obsessing about five pounds instead of just living my

478
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:32,900
life and so I'm trying to help people and help myself through the process of shedding

479
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:38,200
that body dysmorphia saying you know and I'm sorry Rich I know you brought up a plateau

480
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,960
but depending on how much weight you have to lose maybe it's not a plateau maybe you're

481
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,240
done if it's if it's 50 pounds that's one thing but if it's 10 maybe it's time to take

482
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,200
a step back and think am I obsessing about this because I want to fit into the same jeans

483
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,960
I wore 20 years ago and that's just unreasonable or am I doing this because my doctor's telling

484
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,400
me to and if your doctor's telling you to then go for it but that's where I am right

485
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:10,240
now and I've had an amazing journey through all of it so it's it's it's still going.

486
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Audrey for our listeners because this is your experience and share as much or as little

487
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,480
as you want what does body dysmorphia feel like?

488
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:27,720
You look in the mirror and you're still heavy you look in the mirror and and and you still

489
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:34,600
feel heavy still to this day I do have issues with it where I will you know I'll feel heavy

490
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,920
the jeans still fit the same but I feel bad I feel like I look bad in my partner will

491
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,400
be like are you freaking crazy you know like we walk to the grocery store and like yeah

492
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:52,240
he's like men break their necks to stare at you but I don't see that but I see what I

493
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:59,800
when I look in the mirror yeah instead of saying my body is strong I carried a child

494
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:08,880
I'm 44 years old and I'm still a size six instead of celebrating that I nitpick and

495
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,960
I feel like a lot of women do that I'm sure a lot of men do that I don't think it's ever

496
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:19,040
gonna end but I think we need to talk about it and talk about why it's a problem and and

497
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:25,500
maybe our generation can't fix it but maybe we can crack open something to where the next

498
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:31,120
generations can stop picking their bodies apart because we're just meat sacks like why

499
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,560
do we care what our meat sack looks like you know we're Audrey let me stop you for a second

500
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:44,480
and say this is a man's problem okay we put it on you it's not you guys you guys perpetuate

501
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,360
the problem that we give you which is we want you to look a certain way and then you spend

502
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:56,800
your entire lives trying to fulfill that it's we are the catalyst for that problem so we

503
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:04,060
need to stand up and say and the sad part is is that because I have four girls we create

504
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:11,960
the very cultures which propagate taking advantage of women at the expense of our children because

505
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:18,240
it ultimately affects our children yeah thank you for saying that because I really I do

506
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:26,240
have some amazing men in my life who are very evolved but I don't think I've ever heard

507
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:32,080
that so thank you that's I standing ovation thank you for saying that because it needs

508
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:40,080
to be said and and but as women we are also my mother it was all about find a good man

509
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:47,920
and get married find a good man and get married and it we are teaching this to our daughters

510
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:53,800
whether we're using the words or not that we are supposed to be hot like that is where

511
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:59,400
a woman's value is is and I am sorry and I work in kitchens but it all comes down to

512
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:05,760
is she fuckable and that is not where my value comes from my value comes from I'm working

513
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,360
hard I'm a good person I'm trying to evolve I'm trying to grow I'm working on myself because

514
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:17,240
looks are fleeting and if it's one thing and it's not okay for men to value women like

515
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:24,160
that but it's even so much worse for women to value to see all of their value in just

516
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:30,200
their looks because it's fleeting and I think that's why we are getting so much fillers

517
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,600
and Botox not that there's anything wrong with that not that I've had it but again I

518
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,480
reserve the right to change my mind later but the beauty filters and all of this stuff

519
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,280
we are expected to look a certain way and then we perpetuate it to our daughters if

520
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:52,480
nothing else with really bad behavior like using beauty filters yeah yeah yeah it's it's

521
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,800
here's the thing if men would wake up and take responsibility for that it would release

522
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,680
their daughters that's the one you have to really work on the daughters to finding the

523
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:08,440
value of beauty is in the elegance of the human being and not in their fuckability yes

524
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:16,680
totally yeah and that's where we need a shift in culture away from beauty as glorification

525
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:23,280
and beauty as elegance we've lost elegance in this country a lot and and I and I think

526
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,440
about that I think about all the time of I'm raising four women in the world I want to

527
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:37,720
be an example and I realized man we we perpetuate a lot of those problems we create them we

528
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,560
need to take responsibility for that because we perpetuate that cycle and women buy into

529
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:50,180
that cycle because that's when yeah yeah it's a vicious cycle I'm so glad we're talking

530
00:32:50,180 --> 00:32:56,860
about this and I really hope that your male listeners take stock and I really hope on

531
00:32:56,860 --> 00:33:03,920
my end the women listeners take stock and nobody's perfect you know and and I don't

532
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,120
think any of us had the the answer right if there was just some you know we could just

533
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,160
flip a switch and make it all better we would but we need to start having this conversation

534
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,100
like if it's not us what are we gonna do we're gonna put it on our kids and on their generation

535
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:21,160
that's not fair to them so we need to start having this conversation of how can men be

536
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,520
better how can women be better how can we support each other in that and how can we

537
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:33,640
start teaching the next generations to be kinder to themselves and it's I love that

538
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:41,880
so here's how ironic it is is people are now robbing makeup stores I know that's how they

539
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,920
are my daughter and I were at the mall yesterday having our girls night she wanted to go into

540
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Sephora because she told me these stories and so we went into Sephora only because of

541
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,560
the story of how the kids are like messing with the products it's like it's it's a whole

542
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,320
thing it's no they're bank robbing the products because they're ridiculously expensive that

543
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:10,200
yeah that too oh wow they're glamour so we've been talking about a lot of things that are

544
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,400
like super important but they're gonna take almost like reeducation right it's gonna take

545
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,360
a lot of digging in there's a lot of issues that we're facing in this culture and this

546
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,800
in this country whether it's gun violence or whether it's other types of things you

547
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,080
know the antidepressant kind of thing going on there's a lot of ways to kind of go against

548
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:34,440
that and to try to dig in and you know we can probably have an entire episode in a few

549
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,040
months talking about kind of the progress we've made but one of the things I think now

550
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480
it's probably a good time to start talking about some of the practical day-to-day things

551
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,600
that you can do and including like some of the great menu items that you might throw

552
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,400
down what are some of the ways that you can transition from this kind of theoretical way

553
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:56,200
of becoming more independent of not looking at yourself with that body dysmorphia and

554
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,680
doing those practical things where when you think about it the things we do on a day-to-day

555
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,840
basis with consistency those actually put something in our brain that actually help

556
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,160
and when you actually start I've seen articles that talk about when people grow their own

557
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:13,400
food and they cut that food and they prepare it with their own hands there's something

558
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,280
that happens in the brain that really makes a dynamic there so I'd love to hear on a more

559
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:23,560
practical standpoint about as you you know go your day-to-day what do you have it in

560
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,600
the kitchen what are some of these recipes what are some of the foods that you're choosing

561
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,000
and how did you choose them to kind of help be that kind of day-to-day diet that's helping

562
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,000
you know people lose weight yeah and I and I love that that you want to bring that all

563
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,040
together and and I do really want to bring self-care and self-love and eating healthy

564
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:50,320
together I feel like it's all one for me when it comes to creating a healthy meal I try

565
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:59,560
to really lean on 50% vegetables if you can do them raw even better more nutrients and

566
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:06,360
why why raw as opposed to cooked or steamed more nutrients in them yes you'll get more

567
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:12,680
nutrients okay that's right and and keep in mind that these vegetables and fruits this

568
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:18,040
is what turns off your hunger receptors so if you eat a burger and an hour later you're

569
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,920
hungry or if you eat some Chinese food which I love and then an hour later you're hungry

570
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,160
it's because you haven't turned off your hunger receptors it's not really because you're

571
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,720
necessarily hungry you have a belly full of food but you haven't fed your body what it

572
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,840
needs and so by giving yourself vegetables and listen if you don't like salads and if

573
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:42,620
you just can't eat raw foods by all means you know grill up some veggies go for it but

574
00:36:42,620 --> 00:36:54,000
try to do 50% vegetables 25% lean meats or or lean protein ideally so if you're vegan

575
00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:04,200
you know some tofu some chickpeas and then 25% healthy grains so we're looking at quinoa

576
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:10,880
we're looking at brown rice we're looking at healthy foods now I get that there's going

577
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,800
to be some people going no no no that I'm not going to be able to lose weight on that

578
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,000
because keto says I can't well keep in mind and and this this might you guys might not

579
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:28,440
like this but keto is just Atkins repackaged yeah and Dr. Atkins died of a heart attack

580
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,400
so yeah just because you can lose weight on something does not mean that it is healthy

581
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,680
for you lifestyle yeah and we want lifestyle changes I mean it stresses the body you're

582
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,400
literally forcing your body into ketosis where it's relying on ketones as a source of energy

583
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,720
and not the glycogen stores that come up from eating carbohydrates in the fat and quite

584
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:56,280
frankly if you've got hepatitis you're typically also a ketosis that's my understanding so

585
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:01,040
that's why you take the strips for it so and people also fall back on I can have cheese

586
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,580
and bacon and all the you know as long as you know carbs there I could I can go to dirty

587
00:38:06,580 --> 00:38:11,240
keto and that's not a good answer as well right no I think it's important that's what

588
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:16,520
you're saying is you're putting your body in a stress by doing that it's not a sustainable

589
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:24,000
yeah I had my best friends are full keto been for as long as it is and they swear by it

590
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:29,400
so let's take a step back and and I really want to concentrate on that word you just

591
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:35,660
use Jonathan because you just said stress and we all know there is it's stressing out

592
00:38:35,660 --> 00:38:41,060
your body is not good stressing out your body creates disease so can you lose weight can

593
00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:45,500
you lose weight eating a cardboard box yeah probably should you know does that mean it's

594
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:52,280
healthy no what I want to try to encourage people to do is to find healthier ways that

595
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,760
you can sustain this now if you're diabetic I get it you know maybe you need a little

596
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,400
bit more lean protein and maybe a little bit less of the the starchy carbs but have more

597
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:10,080
vegetables then it's just I'll put out a recipe for a salad and it's nothing but greens some

598
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,840
chopped up vegetables you know a really healthy salad dressing that's maybe you know just

599
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,760
lemon juice and a few herbs and a little bit of Dijon mustard and people will be like oh

600
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,620
that's not healthy there's too many carbs there's literally not one crouton in there

601
00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:29,280
there's no rice there's not even any quinoa in there and people are just so hyper focused

602
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:35,880
on carbs and it kind of reminds me of when people were so hyper focused about fat back

603
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:43,880
in the 90s and everything free yes you know and and and I'll bring up the the gluten free

604
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,080
fad and my partner is gluten intolerant and so for there's a lot of people who realize

605
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,200
oh this is why I have tummy issues because I'm celiac so there are some good things that

606
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:59,680
came out of the whole gluten free fad but it's just another low carb bullshit your brain

607
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:06,760
needs carbs to function that is the fuel for your brain and if you want to be smart and

608
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:13,000
if you want to be alert and still working here at three o'clock on a Friday when I would

609
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,640
usually be done you know you need to feed your body what it what it needs and here I

610
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:24,240
am I had a banana and a handful of wallets walnuts for breakfast and I had a grilled

611
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:29,640
cheese sandwich with real bread for lunch and I am maintaining my weight loss or I'm

612
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,480
maintaining my weight you can have these things just make sure they're all natural so your

613
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,760
body knows how to process them that's what it really comes down to.

614
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Audrey this is touching on something that's I think what I've been trying to drive to

615
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,960
myself is it's not just the food you eat it's the message you eat it with you and I both

616
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:55,560
grew up in and there's the Italian grandmother who's 97 years old and drinking smoking a

617
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:02,160
cigarette with a glass of wine and having a little pasta and she's 25 30 pounds weight

618
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:08,920
it's the love that has to be it because food is a message and when you weaponize it and

619
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,560
say oh my god I really want this burger but if I eat it I'm a piece of shit you're killing

620
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:21,240
the message you're eating garbage and it's the message that you tell yourself with the

621
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:26,360
food and I think that's what I love about what you're doing is you're creating ways

622
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:32,040
for people to enjoy foods again because it's not just complete absence of food yes we do

623
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,240
need to cut our calories but you can eat healthy and enjoy it too.

624
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:43,040
Absolutely and I love since we're Italian there's a great quote by Sophia Loren who

625
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,120
I love so much I named my daughter after her where she says I would rather eat pasta than

626
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,520
be a size zero.

627
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,120
Can we name a more beautiful Italian woman as ever lived?

628
00:41:53,120 --> 00:42:00,200
No stunning and she has a I would assume at least from this quote has a healthy relationship

629
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,680
with food and you know maybe as we get older if we find that we have a hard time with carbs

630
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:11,960
maybe we don't eat carbs for dinner if we start looking at food as as if it's fuel we

631
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,480
should be eating the bulk of our calories and our carbs if we're trying to lose weight

632
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:22,720
earlier in the day breakfast and lunch and then maybe we have a lighter dinner because

633
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:27,600
it's like I love to use the analogy of a car would you take your car on a road trip on

634
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:32,320
empty and then once you get to your location then fill it up because that's what we do

635
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,980
to our bodies every single day when we don't eat breakfast don't eat lunch and then have

636
00:42:36,980 --> 00:42:42,320
1500 calories through the drive-through at dinner it's just we need to start looking

637
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,280
at food like this is fuel we don't feel bad when we put fuel in our car unless the gas

638
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,600
prices are really high but that's a different kind of feeling bad why are why is why are

639
00:42:53,600 --> 00:43:01,320
calories a bad thing why are why is the word calorie just so negative because if you just

640
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,520
kind of rethink that it's just an easy control mechanism.

641
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,000
The reality is Audrey it's an easy control mechanism it's something that men can say

642
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,480
this is what you need in order to look what we will like that's yeah it's about the counting

643
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,960
yeah it's the counting yeah it's a simple level x equals y right um I've heard the thing

644
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,000
that with breakfast lunch and dinner like you mentioned you're supposed to eat breakfast

645
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,280
like a king and lunch like a prince and dinner like a pauper those are the that's the term

646
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:34,800
that I've heard I love that I've never heard that I love that yeah so again because you're

647
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,560
doing your activity you're going to burn those bigger calories off you know throughout the

648
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,320
day the calories I mean obviously we're talking about calories we have to it's an actual it's

649
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:49,280
okay I have the same problem yeah but if you remove it from the impetus of value then you

650
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,560
can have a conversation around it you say okay now let's talk about calories because

651
00:43:53,560 --> 00:44:01,040
they're no longer my my dignity is not dependent upon it you know will you like me am I enough

652
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,760
and then we can say okay what kind of calories because that was probably the most important

653
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:10,920
important thing that I ever learned is my calories do matter I was consistently 25 to

654
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,360
30 pounds overweight kind of I always said a 250 mark and then it was 255 and then it's

655
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:21,320
like 257 you know it's like that it just creeps up and then I realized holy shit I am eating

656
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:27,840
a full breakfast an early lunch a late big snack and I was probably consuming 35 hundred

657
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:34,880
calories a day because I love steak I love meats and I'm like I love food I do and I'm

658
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,800
like you can what if I cut back a little bit or what if you what if you don't have to cut

659
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,320
back in portion size but you just make them healthier so what if you cook your steak without

660
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:53,720
a ton of olive oil you know what if you have more vegetables instead of or or maybe what

661
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:59,400
if you bake your fries or air fry your fries instead of frying them you know there are

662
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,520
healthier ways to do it and you know in anyone going to my website it's gonna be like oh

663
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:08,920
my god bitch everything says low calorie and that's because that's what resonates with

664
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,560
people and and I am part I have a problem with the word calorie too and I think it goes

665
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,080
back to like zero calorie this and zero calorie that those are like what free foods they're

666
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:26,480
not but you can create these foods or you can eat these foods that are in a healthier

667
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,080
you can eat them healthier so for instance today I posted on Facebook because a lot of

668
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:38,920
people are you know fasting for lent in in my group and so I put out a shrimp fajitas

669
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,920
and the way I make fajitas is it's a whole hell of a lot of vegetables like vegetables

670
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:50,560
vegetables and some more vegetables and then definitely the protein but the marinade or

671
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:56,040
the olive oil is seriously cut back to just what you need and then boosting the flavor

672
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,320
with zero calorie items Jesus I just said it see it's a problem even for me but zero

673
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:10,600
calorie items like you know garlic or herbs and spices but back to the fajitas you guys

674
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,240
had asked me you know what are these foods that can naturally boost metabolism and there

675
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:24,120
are things that you find in your produce aisle they are peppers are the best best best metabolism

676
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:30,080
booster obviously the spicier the better but bell peppers are great for boosting metabolism

677
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:36,560
you're also going wrong I didn't know that so good raw yeah so good raw well I left the

678
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,720
dial right and I used raw onions and the sole right and it's a as an as a like a topper

679
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:46,760
right it's perfect or chili whatever yeah yeah that's why I like Mexican Mexican food

680
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:55,760
can do a lot with flavor that's very yeah yeah so if you add in these metabolism boosting

681
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,760
foods you can have the foods that you want you can have the meals that you want you can

682
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:06,040
have you know a blueberry cobbler because blueberries naturally boost metabolism let's

683
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,640
just maybe cut out the bottom of it and just do a really yummy topping apples naturally

684
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,680
boost metabolism you know so instead of having a donut for dessert and maybe having an apple

685
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,840
for dessert sounds boring but maybe you bake that apple and then it gets all caramelized

686
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,720
and yummy and hot there are ways that you can take these foods that naturally will increase

687
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:33,120
your metabolism while turning off your hunger receptors and genuinely just filling you up

688
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:40,320
and I came out with a I have four cookbooks and when I was writing my second cookbook

689
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,960
Kate Hudson was reading pretty happy it's right over here I had to look at the name

690
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:50,520
of it and we both had the same publishing house and my agent was like do you know Kate

691
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,760
Hudson I'm like hell no I don't can you introduce me but she's like you guys are both saying

692
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,720
the same thing and it was interesting that she was writing a book about happiness and

693
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,800
I was writing a book about weight loss and we were saying the same thing and here's what

694
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,680
we were saying when you eat food how do you feel not in that moment not in the 10 minutes

695
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:16,440
it takes you to eat it an hour later or two hours later do you feel lethargic do you have

696
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:25,160
a headache do you feel just gross like I'm not proud of what I ate food baby yes a Chipotle

697
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:33,440
food baby did you say food baby food baby just sits in you and they just like a gut

698
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,360
and you just feel it and I know like you said lethargic and you're like oh why did they

699
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:44,680
do that like a big barbacoa right right or do you feel like you have more energy you

700
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,720
can get through your afternoon you don't need that extra cup of coffee you know how do you

701
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:54,720
feel not in the moment that you're eating which is important like let's boost everything

702
00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:00,560
with flavor let's make it delicious but how do you feel an hour to two hours later and

703
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:07,120
if you can think about food that way it's it's the ultimate act of self-love and self-care

704
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,840
so it is maybe it's important I want to stop you there because that is super important

705
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:19,160
for people to realize is you've got to have the right message about food it's got to feed

706
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:25,520
you and I think crossing that bridge into you know getting into the practical sides

707
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:33,200
is it does there are ways you just have to look for them and you've done it so part of

708
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:40,520
this is not just is it probable or is it possible but no it can be flourishing you enjoy the

709
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:47,920
way you eat is that fair to say I probably most people would think too much doing it

710
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:55,160
yeah yeah yeah and I also splurge from time to time like you had mentioned free days we

711
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,200
had crumble cookie last night girls night and before that we hit in and out for the first

712
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:05,560
time here in Boise we were so excited but I think we're doing free days not cheat days

713
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,200
because that's another thing we do to ourselves right we I just call it a cheat day because

714
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,720
it's really and it is it is not it's a free day that's right yeah thank you it's it's

715
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:20,640
you know I I'm not gonna have that stuff every single day I'm gonna have it on Thursday night

716
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:25,440
and with that said because the lines have been two hours long and longer we had dinner

717
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,240
at four o'clock my daughter and I and I know that sounds crazy but there was no line and

718
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:34,520
it was great and neither of us were hungry the rest of the night and I kind of said like

719
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,040
dude instead of having your after-school snack why don't we have your after-school snack later

720
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,400
tonight if you still want it and she didn't even want it and I didn't feel gross and you

721
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,120
know another healthy thing was we walked around the mall afterwards you know so you can have

722
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,640
these foods that you feel like you're not supposed to and just jump back right back

723
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,720
on the bandwagon the next day you know I'm not waiting again until Monday I have my banana

724
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:03,040
and my nuts for breakfast so yeah it's it goes back to what you said in the beginning

725
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:09,160
is you're going to fail to start with that because it gives you a lot of permission to

726
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,240
be a human being in the process like people start out and go you know it's the whole January

727
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:20,920
first thing and they do the diet change and then Tuesday comes and they fall like you

728
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:26,240
know it's like okay and they give up yourself those you know those days fail do you know

729
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:34,720
what percentage fail a psychology today article 89% it's a 19 is that right no I'm sorry

730
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:41,480
79% fails like a 19% success ratio with with new year's resolutions it's because they're

731
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,480
too dramatic they're too over encompassing and when you don't see the gains immediately

732
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,600
that you want you bail on it right and that's a terrible way of looking at things yeah no

733
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:56,960
matter what it is yeah and I just I started a lose weight by eating podcast and I'm starting

734
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,280
another one next week because you know one is never enough for me goes back to all my

735
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:08,680
eating but I talked about setting realistic goals last week and it kind of comes back

736
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:13,880
the fact that you were talking about new year's resolutions because my analogy for this was

737
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:19,280
it was years ago they were at Times Square and some woman was standing there and Anderson

738
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:24,040
Cooper shoved a mic in her face and said what's your new year's resolution and she said I'm

739
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,920
going to do yoga every single day and I was screaming at the screen like are you crazy

740
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:37,040
that's not reasonable and when we have these huge goals even if she's a yoga instructor

741
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,560
she's not going to be able to do that and so I was talking about you know set realistic

742
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,340
goals people say you know I want to lose five pounds this week no your goal should be one

743
00:52:46,340 --> 00:52:53,000
pound this week one you can always beat your goals yeah but let's try to meet them because

744
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,960
when we don't meet them we fall off and by the way for any why do you think people create

745
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:07,000
bad goals I think I almost wonder it's not their goal no it's other people's goals yes

746
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:12,000
and they want to rush through it and I get that I want to rush through a lot of things

747
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,920
too but keep in mind that one pound a week weight loss is 52 pounds loss in a year and

748
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:25,560
two pounds just do the math is 104 pounds loss in a year so smaller goals can always

749
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:32,160
be beat and they're more achievable and you're so much more likely to stick to them so instead

750
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,640
of this woman saying I'm going to do yoga every single day I love to give the I love

751
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,460
to tell people instead of saying I'm gonna work out five days this week say I'm gonna

752
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:45,400
work out three hours this week and then you can chunk it up into little pieces and if

753
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,280
you get to Saturday and you realize I haven't worked out you can go for a long bike ride

754
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,520
you can take a hike with the kids you can walk the dog you can make up that time but

755
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,320
when you when you say I'm gonna do something every single day it just leaves too much room

756
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,160
for failure and then naturally for some reason as humans when we fail we just want to give

757
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:13,440
up when failure you know should be a learning opportunity but because people have such an

758
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,920
issue yeah it always is we just don't give ourselves permission and make it a learning

759
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:23,860
opportunity yeah yeah so yeah it's just I'm very did you want to quit as you did that

760
00:54:23,860 --> 00:54:30,280
first year you lost how much weight in how much time I lost 150 pounds in 11 months

761
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:37,880
I know it's crazy I don't remember wanting to quit but I also think you follow a simple

762
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,480
program I know when you like if you if you take yourself off sugar you'll probably lose

763
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:47,040
10 pounds like that'll happen automatically because your body's not in a constant stress

764
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,520
state so sugar puts your body in stress it creates a constant dopamine that's why it's

765
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:58,680
it's not that it's bad for you it's just it's not what your body needs all the time and

766
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:04,720
you remove that like at what point did you want to quit and what did you how did you

767
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:09,760
stay on the path and was it just a gradual or was it like all like this it was all like

768
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:18,600
this and as I you fail but you keep going so I don't know if this is my idea or if I

769
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:25,360
got it from someone else so if I stole your idea I'm please totally said to me but I started

770
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:32,200
doing an eight week average okay so instead of because because for women just naturally

771
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:37,800
and even after my hysterectomy you will still have one bad week either that you don't lose

772
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,680
weight or when you've you know trimmed down as much as I have that you gain weight it's

773
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:48,000
just gonna happen and I've seen that with men as well it's not quite as drastic but

774
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:53,680
we are gonna have good weeks we're gonna have bad weeks so instead of basing it all off

775
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:59,120
of this week this week this week this week write down everything for eight weeks add

776
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,520
it all up divide that by eight and that is your eight week average and almost always

777
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,400
when I have coached people in weight loss and they wanted to quit and I give them their

778
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,480
eight week average they go oh my god that's amazing because I feel like we're we just

779
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:19,600
we're still fixated here too it's like careful oh gosh you're gonna get on the scale on Monday

780
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:25,960
you know or like and you're giving yourself some freedom to actually make these and what's

781
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,360
also interesting is you'll notice it right if you've lost a few pounds you're you'll

782
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:35,040
feel it right there's either either your pants or whatever feel a little bit better or there's

783
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:40,840
a definite feel you know and so I love how what I'm hearing a lot of Audrey is you've

784
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:46,660
done this a great ability to it's like you're repurposing so you're taking it's take this

785
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:51,200
food and divvy it up in this way and it's going to be delicious and it's going to be

786
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,360
high metabolic and it's going to be there I mean just mix it up and you do the same

787
00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,800
thing with this eight weeks and it's the idea of looking at things in a different perspective

788
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:08,000
and and not putting these swim lanes in the way and in these limiters to you know to expanding

789
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,720
what you need to do I love it thanks thanks and and for anyone who is who's just saying

790
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:18,880
you know I don't know what to do with these foods she's mentioning every single week I

791
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:26,680
put out sorry every single week I put out a free meal plan it's completely free if you

792
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,280
go to lose weight by eating calm it's always on the front page and I never delete them

793
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:36,040
so say for instance you look at this week's and you're like no I I don't I don't like

794
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,720
that you can just scroll down and find another one they're always free there's always links

795
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:46,520
to all of the recipes I I hate the weight loss industry and I genuinely think weight

796
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:52,460
loss shouldn't cost you anything and so I I can't change it but I can give it away for

797
00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:58,800
free so anyone who wants to try it go to lose weight by eating calm and check it out and

798
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,000
even maybe listen I hope you guys are okay with me plugging but the loose weight by eating

799
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,520
podcast I thought I was gonna be talking about my new podcast when we came on here so I'd

800
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,720
love to come back but since we're talking about weight loss check out the lose weight

801
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:16,800
by eating podcast because in it I'm still trying to learn and I'm still trying to evolve

802
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:23,680
and what I'm trying to do is open up the conversation of you can take self-love and self-care and

803
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:29,720
healthy eating and merge them together because if you if you're saying I love my body it's

804
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:36,200
so great but are you really loving your body if you're always putting junk in it the best

805
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:41,240
way to love your body is to give your body what it needs and you know this is coming

806
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,440
from a woman who went to in and out and crumble cookie last night so you know but there's

807
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,720
balance in all of that and and you know with healthy eating you'll naturally lose weight

808
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:57,080
and so I'm trying to find this balance and stumbling through it and I've gotten a really

809
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,180
great response from it so I would love for people who are interested in hearing more

810
00:59:02,180 --> 00:59:07,000
on that to listen and to maybe even help me because I know I don't have all the answers

811
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:13,720
and it's a journey for me as well so even after 14 years after I've lost my weight and

812
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:21,380
maintained it I'm still struggling and trying to find the next step and and this time I

813
00:59:21,380 --> 00:59:26,160
have the platform where I can say come along with me so I would love for you guys to listen

814
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,520
and give me your feedback I even tell people on it I welcome the hate mail but I would

815
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,520
really rather we just open up a conversation.

816
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:37,880
I'm going to ask you to do something a little subversive but and you don't have to because

817
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:43,400
I can always cut this out but if you were to have the weight loss industry in front

818
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,840
of you as an audience what would you say to them?

819
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:59,960
I would tell them that they are abusers they are they're abusing us they're taking our

820
00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:06,160
money telling us we're ugly and not and they're abusing us this is an abusive relationship

821
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:12,880
this is not okay and if this was a relationship like a we're dating relationship we'd be

822
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:19,040
out of it in a heartbeat it's it's it's shitty and um and I know there's going to be some

823
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,840
people who who say well you're part of it and you're part of the problem and and in

824
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:28,920
the past perhaps I have been part of the problem and I am not perfect but I am trying to find

825
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:37,840
a way to to call the bullshit so I appreciate that that that question again and in a year

826
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:43,520
and more therapy I may have a more profound response but that's what I've done.

827
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,160
That is the whole point is we don't invite people here who have all the answers we invite

828
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,600
people here who are authentic about the journey that they're in that's it we don't expect

829
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:57,800
perfect answers we share wisdom and I think you have a lot of wisdom and that's really

830
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:03,720
what we want to do here is help people because what they will see is someone who did lose

831
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:09,920
150 pounds in a year in other words that's possible like I remember watching there was

832
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:15,400
a Netflix documentary about 15 years ago about juicing where the guy lost his weight and

833
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,880
he went across the United States I kept fat sick and nearly dead and it it changed my

834
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,480
life because all of a sudden I realized I can change my relationship with food I don't

835
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:31,400
have to be addicted to it and that's partly what you're giving our audience is an awareness

836
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:38,080
that you don't have to live addicted to food there are ways out of that so absolutely are

837
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:43,200
thank you yeah what question for the weekend is what would you tell somebody who might

838
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,760
be struggling right now or is going into the weekend what's one one one word of advice

839
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:52,920
or one phrase you would tell them going into the weekend because it could be daunting sometimes

840
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:57,120
right going into the weekend with you know social events and stuff like that that you

841
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:04,360
tell them that you'd be encouraging you're gonna screw up it's what you do after yeah

842
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:11,680
that's that's it's just screwing up as part of the journey it's what you do after that's

843
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,400
the best thing I've got for today screwing up is part of the journey it's what you do

844
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:22,000
after that's perfect I will leave so my final question for you is because I know rich has

845
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:29,880
been going practical which is awesome what is your favorite dish oh god like what do

846
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:35,640
you make for yourself for your birthday for my birthday what would I do the thing is is

847
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:42,600
Italian what do you do I love it's the problem it's like I want it all um wow so it used

848
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:49,920
to be it's gotta be on the website what would you cook for yourself on your website oh boy

849
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:58,120
either fajitas okay and I would allow myself as much cheese and guacamole as I wanted um

850
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:07,840
or lasagna lasagna and I have a really healthy amazing lasagna on the site that um my full

851
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:14,520
Italian uncle loves what's that yeah how do you make lasagna healthy you pack it with

852
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:21,720
healthy vegetables okay you still use the um I like to use Italian sausage I use turkey

853
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:30,960
Italian sausage and I use vegetables that kind of mimic meat like um mushrooms and zucchini

854
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,760
and I add lots of onions in there so I'm adding lots of flavor but I like to lean on the flavor

855
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:41,720
of sausage and I know this is a horrible thing as an Italian woman to say but I hate ricotta

856
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:49,480
cheese and I use marscapone oh that's more expensive but my god that's good yeah it's

857
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:55,600
so good but like you can like mix it in with the filling and it's just so fantastic and

858
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,720
I always make my own sauce so making your own sauce really boosts the flavor if you

859
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:05,480
don't do that you could absolutely like cook it down a little bit for an hour in a sauce

860
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:12,160
pot with a little bit more garlic you know put some onions in in the pot tiny tiny little

861
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,440
bit of olive oil cook them down a little bit a little bit of garlic just for as long as

862
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:22,000
you can smell it then um add in maybe a teaspoon or two of Italian seasoning again just for

863
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,320
as just as soon as you can smell it we're talking about in a minute and then add in

864
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:32,240
the store-bought ideally organic because it won't have fillings or crap in it um sauce

865
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:37,560
and then just cook that down for 30 minutes to an hour and that will be a really decent

866
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:42,520
sauce and then make that you know or just make your own my sauce is like 30 calories

867
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:48,160
it's amazing and it's it's just a take on my grandmother's um I'm getting very hungry

868
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:55,920
super I'm sorry it's almost dinner time my wife and my my son over at this cool wood

869
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:01,280
fired pizza place we love and gonna have some yummy uh beets and some olives too and

870
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,720
that's the best way nice nice and John what are you eating tonight uh I don't know we

871
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,360
haven't made any plans I'll probably we'll probably go down to the steakhouse or something

872
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something close so gotcha uh Audrey this has been fantastic this has been an amazing show

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I didn't expect it to go this way and it did uh it's this has been one of special I appreciate

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your heart in uh fighting for yourself because I think that's all I want for my for my daughters

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and daughters out there is the capacity to fight for yourself and await is a big part

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of the journey so thank you for being transparent you really opened up I really appreciate that

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of giving us that gift for um to really listen to what does it mean to step up and take the

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healing or the healthy journey that we all can take and and I can say personally there's

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a lot of flavors out there that are very healthy so there's a lot of room for improvements

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mostly just getting off of processed foods and we're gonna start that journey so um so

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all of our listeners this has been another incredible episode have a great weekend please

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uh comment review love your uh comments we've been getting a lot lately and uh if you have

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anybody you'd like to recommend please let us know um we're also on uh instagram you

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can follow us there so much love everybody have a great weekend

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bye