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Welcome to Living in the Matrix. I'm Jonathan and I'm left of center.

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And I'm Rich and I tend to lean a little bit more to the right.

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But the bottom line is, is together we try to look for the balance

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of what it means to be human in today's world.

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Yeah, let's just get started because I want to jump into this one.

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Welcome to Living in the Matrix, everyone. I'm Jonathan. This is my co-host, Rich. Say hello, Rich.

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Hey, everybody. Great to be back and great to have you back, Sean.

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Just we're looking forward to this. It's been almost a year

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since we had our first podcast together and looking forward to diving in. Sure. Welcome back.

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Awesome to be here. I'm super honored and excited. Thank you so much.

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Hey, so your work on Instagram has grown this year. You've done a lot of incredible stuff.

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Tell me about that because you are producing some of the most unique videos

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and your story and your message is so unique.

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Why don't you tell us about what you've been doing this year?

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Yeah. I don't know what happened. I know what happened. Things just start happening.

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You open up what I call open up your capacity and then stuff just flows in.

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Even my video guy is like, this is crazy because he keeps, I think we've got three or four months

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of bank content that he hasn't produced yet. I have like 20 I haven't put up yet. I guess

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this we'll just keep rocking and see what happens. It's just something came in and then I'm like,

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well, I need to, well, the something is what I got away from my higher self and started using

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our higher all, which is interesting just to play on the words of it. Our higher all just drop

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something in and it's just like, make this entertaining, make it unique. I would never

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even consider myself like an artist or somebody who would think. But do you know what you like?

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Oddly it's not even a me thing. I know that I just start speaking things out and then I've got this

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awesome video animator guy that he just starts putting the stuff together. He's like amazing.

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Geometry patterns, connections. I mean, it's so cosmic, right? It's pretty,

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and it's, but it's not distracting. It's set definitely gets you drawn in and focused.

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It's incredible stuff. We do. I mean, it's zero, zero edits ever. I'm like, it's perfect. Go.

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And so we just go and then, and then the other guy on the last 5%, it's not worth it. It's like,

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just release. I love that plan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's crazy. So it's been,

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uh, it's been awesome. And then my other guy that does my, like, you know, the face and the live

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stuff, like he's just like, once again, just turns them out and it's not me. It's like, it's, it's,

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it's a us thing. And so it continues to be the more that I see it as an us thing. He just,

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we're all creating this together. And I'm like, just bring it to something that everybody wants

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to see that you've, you've done this for years. You know, it works and I'll, you know, I'll pay

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for it if I need to. Well, now he kind of works for me. So like we partnered and he works in my

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agency, which is awesome. Cause I have other work. I'm like, well, let's do this stuff. So it's been,

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it's been just really humbling to watch it all unfold, but I absolutely love it. And the message

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just keeps getting more clear and it keeps evolving. And the more that I learned, I'm like,

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well, nobody's gonna, nobody's going to understand this, right? The Rudolph Steiner's way of

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initiation and the way that they're talking about it. But let me take the principles out of that

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and work to make it simple. And I'm not the most simple guy to explain things, but at least I'm

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getting, it's getting clearer as I keep going, which I'm, you know, the more input, the better

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it gets. And we just keep rocking. Do you use Rudolph Steiner's language or do you sort of

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translate it into your own language? Cause you have a unique way of speaking about it. Yeah,

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no, I don't use his language. I mean, I'm studying so many different things right now, but I, I like

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some of the stuff he talks about or like I'll, you know, gotten into the Rosicrucian teachings lately,

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or I've gotten into, started studying Knights Templar. And then I got into Carl Jung and then

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I'm like, go down another path of reading the Cometic Principles by, you know, the Metunetur.

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And then I'm, I'm just kind of like, you know, constructing it all together. But I find that,

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got into Hinduism recently and just kind of went down that rabbit hole and like,

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what's the architecture and the foundation of that? And the more that I get into.

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You learned, well, like what stood out to you specifically during that little jaunt and leg?

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Like with all that stuff? With Hinduism. Yeah. Oh, oh, just, just the cycles of time. And then

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the different ways that they view, you know, from a deity perspective and how they all have

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a specific purpose and they all make up this grander, you know, this, this grander ecosystem.

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What led me into it was, you know, I started hearing about this, these Kali Yuga cycles,

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and then I'm like, oh, 400,000 years. Yeah. Like what's, what is time? Right.

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And it's on January 15th. Okay. There's just going to be this window on the 15th, not the 20th,

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which is a different window, which is Mahurta. And this is, I had to, I, this is where it just

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drives me crazy because if time is no thing and it's, and it's nonlinear, then what is the,

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you know, intensity and what is the, the, the pure exclusivity of finding somebody who knows

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to find the details, get in that window and actually get ready for it at that particular

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period of time. So help me out with that. Yeah. So there was, you know, I had a client use this

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the other day, you know, we, we've left change in the couch for us to get rich. And those little

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windows of time are just the change in the couch that we love. So we use time in order to give

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reference to opportunities for consciousness to fold in together. So if we all say, well, this

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thing is happening on this day and we can all agree on this day, then consensus creates the reality.

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And then there's an eternalism that then ripples out from that effect. And then at which point

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it is. So is it really a thing? I don't know, but it can be a thing if we make it a thing,

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like how powerful is the mind that we create the hell in our life and the heaven in our life. So

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could we not just do that together and create this collectively? Yeah. Okay. I want to speak

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to this because I actually had a thought last night as I was walking my dog that I think

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any polarity, good and evil, male, female, any polarity you create is essentially the discovery

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of an emotion. Like thought is primarily language and symbols, but the heart is primarily frequency

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and chemical reactions. And I think it does it on a spectrum of experience. So every all time

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is the experience of that emotion on a spectrum. The more balanced we are, the easier it is,

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the more lopsided we are, the more it's just a new thought that I've been thinking about of what

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really is time and time is the experience of that. Right. Right. Because it's like I said, it's all

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a game. And so the time creates the way the game operates. So if you're at an opera or if you're,

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let's say you're at an amazing classical music theater and there's this Mozart being played,

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you're intellectually hearing and digitally taking in that. And then your heart moves to tears.

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You actually weep at the sound of that beauty, right? It's intentional coming from the orchestra

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and you're also acquiescing, or at least intellectually, you'll actually understanding

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that too. You're understanding the crescendos and the different notes. So would you not say that

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that's both, I mean, would you say in that case, the heart isn't just an emotion? Cause you said

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that the motions are in the head and the heart is a vibration. So is that coming together?

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That's what we call emotion. Cause an emotion is technically what your brain thinks of the

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experience. So you think have a chemical reaction as a feeling, and then it goes back to your head

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and says, what's this all about? And make it interprets the reality. That's your emotion.

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It's a spectrum of choice between two polarities. Right. And you can choose the emotion you want to

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feel. What's that? You could choose the emotion you want to feel. Exactly. It's true. I agree with

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that. I think that it always begins the, the, the balance of the polarity always begins by the

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judgment you make of yourself. You have to start from, I am love in order to experience the best

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outcome. And if you get that wrong, that's where chaos is created in your life. And life is about

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rediscovering that, Oh, you've already always been, I am, that's the fullest potential of love for

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the self is I am. And I think, uh, I, and this is my point that I sent to you. I think we are in a

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period of time where there is a mass coherence happening between the head and the heart. People

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are beginning to drop in to their body, mostly men dropping into their body and feeling that sense

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of coherence and women are rising to the awareness in their head and it's bringing coherence. And I'm

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seeing mass trajectory towards healing mass. Especially the gypsy. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. We're,

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we're, we're, we're, we're calling bullshit on the program now. Yeah. Yes. That's the way of saying

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on the matrix. Yeah. Yeah. And the matrix is really our creation. There's nobody created it for us.

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We created it for ourselves, but we're calling bullshit on the way that we viewed the world.

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And now we're getting in a space to where, what is that to your point, you said before the balance,

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where's the balance live to where the present moment of what we're receiving is the intention of its

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creation. Right. So if I can get into that space where I am literally walking in the intention of

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its creation, then what am I, I'm the creator, but I'm doing it with no ego because I have to receive

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it. And if I say that I did that, that I'm not receiving it because I'm pushing it away because

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I'm pointing at it. Right. So that's when you move from the, yeah. Yeah. That's when you move from

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the, what I call the I am state to the we are state and the we are state is a combination of all I am.

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Right. And then in that place, you're just like, you know, cause if somebody says like, you know,

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and then the, um, in the, in the Kabylon, it talks about, you know, the person that says,

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I am God is completely doomed because the simple fact that you have now separated yourself from the

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thing that it is puts you away further away from it than you ever could be. Right. Isn't that part

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of the path though? Well, it is part of the path, but that's part of the dip that you get into

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because there's an egoness to the eye. Yes. I've always read that. Right. Pure perfect love is

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always the collective, the whole, the parts. Yes. Yeah. And it's funny, the further, the further

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that I get into this path, whatever further means the more that I say we and us, you know, an hour

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and the less I say I, cause I'm like, well, it's not really me. Like even the content that's going

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out there, it's like, it's not really me. It's like, why do you hear you saying is you're trying

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to transcend your own avatar? Cause we create, it's like the man in the mirror is the thing we think

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we are. It's the reflection of who we think we are. It's just in a mirror, but we're not that.

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And if we become the true, I am, we become part of the whole, the we, cause that's, that's everyone.

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It's like a, in the matrix when, um, uh, what's his name replicated and agent Smith. Yeah. Agent

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Smith. So we have that capacity. We just do it with different faces and different body.

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Do you want to hear something crazy? I was just thinking about this just today, just before this

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podcast. And I just watched the matrix reloaded, um, last night. What's crazy about what happened

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in the matrix is, and this is what's happening in the real world today. We're seeing all kinds of

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dichotomies, right? We've got dualistic thinking, Islam versus Jew. We've got, uh, left versus

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right politically, right? Even if you look at the overarching meta narratives that have come before

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us in terms of Freud with the id's always fighting with super ego. You've got marks. It's the

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proletariat versus the capitalist and the, um, the aristocracy. And even with, um, Darwin, you've got

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this battle between the survivals of the fittest, the haves, the have not, what was crazy about the

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matrix is you had this machine and it was the Zion against the enemy, right? The Sentinels were

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coming to, to actually take this on. What was nuts about what happened was because of the

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because agent Smith actually got near went into agent Smith in the first episode and blew him up.

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And then he realizes, wow, you imprinted something on me, created this third kind of paradigm. And

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if you finally go to the end of the matrix in revolutions, what ends up happening is Neo makes

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a deal with the actual machine and says, Hey, don't kill my folks in Zion. Help me. I need to,

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I need to fight Smith and we need to take out Smith together. So what ends up happening is

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the machine stopped digging into Zion. And there's this level where the, um, because agent Smith is

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still feeling the sense of inevitability of being controlled by a set of controls. He thinks that he

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sees Neo die. And when Neo actually does die, at least gets pummeled into a blitter and actually

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becomes one with a machine. He thinks he won when in fact he loses. So what, what I'm trying to get

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with all this is this rethinking is something I think we need to, we need to embrace because

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how do we come with that third way, that third path, refined the common ground within us,

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because there's a, Jonathan, even though you're saying there's a lot of heart dropping, there's

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still a lot of divisiveness and there's a lot of pain and there's a lot of, there's people getting

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awoken, but they're getting awoken with more hatred in their heart, right? There's a sense of

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of violence and a sense of it's head space that, that sees this awakeness because they are seeing

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lies told to them. Like we're seeing stuff coming out from this government that is blowing people's

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minds. They're not happy with, but at the same time, how do we push that aside and then figure out,

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going back to even a thousand AD where Alphonse the 10th, you know, you've got the king of Spain has

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Jews, Muslims and Christians all hanging out together, building the Alhambra, you know,

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doing the kinds of things that they got together with a mysticism and a collective consciousness.

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That was amazing, right? These people all cherished and they learned from each other because they got

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rid of this dichotomy and this dualistic thinking. So how do we get to that space? That's as a

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collective mushrooms. I'm joking. That's one way to do it. I mean, it is, yeah, not totally joking

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on that one because essentially we need medicine to get us over our own bullshit sometimes.

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Yeah. The medicine allows you to see that which you didn't see, right? So if you only,

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the medicine allows you to see that which you can't see.

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Yes. That's a great way of saying it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Like the visual spectrum of light is like, we see less than 1% of what we can really

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see. And then when you take some plant medicine, and I'm not endorsing, everybody goes out and

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takes it because you absolutely need to be in a space to integrate. And that's where people lose

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it. But if, when you get involved in it and it allows you to see, let's say we see 2% of the

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visual spectrum or 10% or 5%. And then you now see something because your senses, whatever it

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might be now witnesses it, you can now bring that back into a practice and accountability.

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And that's what Christ and the disciples did, is they literally were drinking wine. The wine was

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not wine. It was not grapes. It was literally mushrooms.

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Ah, the immortality key. There you go. You did read the book. We talked about that almost a year

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ago. The immortality key, right? Yeah. Yeah. So it's just like, it's in that space of being

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able to open up that little extra and say, okay, this is reality. Let me bring that into life.

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And the more of us that do that, the more that it works, but you have to have a responsibility

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with itself to be able to hold the container of what you're now seeing. If I give a five-year-old

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a pistol, it's going to do something really wrong with that pistol because it doesn't have the

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responsibility of it. Yes. Especially if its parents are teaching them all kinds of crazy

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stuff and it's watching Yosemite Sam on TV, it's thinking, oh, I'm going to go shoot a rabbit.

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Right? I mean, it's that kind of vibe. So we just got to be really mindful of how to integrate and

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what the responsibility of these tools that can be weapons and that can be healing frequencies,

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either way, because it all works for the greater good when we allow it to.

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Yep. Sean, what's the biggest thing that you've learned so far this year? This feels like that

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year that it's pivotal. What have you learned so far this year, just from your perspective,

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doesn't have to be grand. I know your journey a little bit. What have you really picked up?

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Hmm. This like 24 or like in the last 12 months? Oh, in 24. Probably I'd say the most impactful

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thing so far is how the code of this earth, which is the thing that birthed us into reality,

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is giving us all the information we ever need. Yes. And it shows up really different than

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it ever has before, but I sense that we're all witnessing it. When it rains, I'm like,

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oh, we're purging. There's something about the rain that it's not just rain anymore.

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Or there's something about when I see two sets of birds, I'm like, oh, well, I know what that means.

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Crazy stuff like the numerology, or even now I'm doing stuff with letters to where I'm decoding

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those into numbers automatically, and I'm seeing the numbers, and I'm seeing the numbers, and I'm

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seeing the numbers automatically, and I'm seeing what those things mean. Everything is a message.

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The sequencing and like when I feel the wind, it's not just the wind, right? It's some aspect of

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resistance that I'm feeling from the world around me that I can't see. And what is that? I can take

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it as wind, but it has to be something that created the wind itself. And so therefore, what am I

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actually receiving when that wind hits me? It's an electrical event. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

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So all of that, all that's a sign and all that's a thing. And so, yeah, I went down this deep rabbit

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hole of this winter solstice and dug into some other stuff. And I was like, oh, well, this means

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that the earth is more awake, right? But we think the earth is more awake in the summertime. No,

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humans are awake. We're moving around. The soul of the earth is wildly awake in the wintertime,

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and it's our time to actually surrender, be quiet, and receive that information. So I noticed like

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in the last month, it was kind of just like a slower, I would say me just doing stuff, like

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where I'm not really out there, but I'm receiving like shit tons of downloads. I think I have like

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50 pages of notes of things that I've just written. And it's all just from the field.

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It's all from the field and not this untouchable quantum field. It's the actual thing that I'm

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seeing. Like now the earth, this conversation, everything that I'm witnessing is like quantum.

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Everything on my desk right now has a very specific code to it, why it's there. And it's

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something for me to receive. And it's not even an overthinking of, I don't really think about it.

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It's just like, oh, I know what that means. Everything good has meaning. Absolutely. It has

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from the highest perspective, everything has meaning. I'm just finishing. All right. I just

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listened to Victor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning, and he reminded me that we create the

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experience of life by our view of it. That if we hold, we can only choose what we experience

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inside, not outside. We hold that. That becomes a very meaningful experience to realize, hey,

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everything does have meaning. And it's there. You just have to discover it. I love that about

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you because you are intentional like that. You create that idea. And that is a choice that we

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can all make to create meaning out of things. And you're listening to, hey, it's tied to something

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much deeper. Let's listen. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. One of the things we've discovered when you

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don't have a lot of food is you savor that. It's very common in Buddhist tradition to

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meditate as you eat. And Americans, I mean, we've scarfing down double double cheeseburgers,

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right, with extra raw onions in about two minutes, right, because that's the way we roll.

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And to be able to think about the food and then knowing there's not a lot, you're chewing and

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masticating it down, which in turn actually is better for your body too. So one of the things

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as this group that's gone to this program has appreciated more is just the nature of being

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mindful about how it's going into your body and chewing it and actually feeling it actually

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provide energy to you. So I love that what you elicited right there, Sean. I was going to ask

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you, I've seen a lot of things out on the ether that deal with ascension. I mean, we do talk about

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people becoming more awake, but Jonathan, we had Cleburne talk about ascension and a planal shift.

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So we had a podcast guest on a name, Cleburne, who has tapped into his pineal gland and felt like

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by tapping into the Christ oil, which is something that starts with the fluid in the pineal gland,

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goes down to the sacrum, goes all the way back up again, kind of as an antenna. He's seen

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what we would describe as the rapture is actually just a planal shift, right, that we're going to be

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elevated to a different place than others. But believe it or not, Virginia talked about this

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interventional shift. Jonathan, Dolores Cannon has talked about this. There's a guy named Keb on

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Twitter talks about ascension through aliens and Pleiadians. Have you heard of Pleiadians out there?

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Sean, I don't know if you have. Okay, cool. What's crazy is all these people are talking about this

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planal shift, but it's coming from a lot of different perspectives. So there's got to be

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something going on, right? Because you've got all these little paths and if we're all kind of aiming

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towards the same goal, it doesn't matter really how you get there. If it's collective and the

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consciousness is there, it doesn't really matter in the path, I don't think. So what do you think

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about this idea of a planal shift and what are you hearing in the ether about that? And maybe it's

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something similar to being awake or not. I'm not sure. I think there's always two paths, right?

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One path is that we are already ascended. We already ascended. It's already done. We just haven't

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actually, we don't believe that we are. Got it. And so part of it is that once we start knowing

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that beyond the belief that we could have that this thing is happening, we have to prove to

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ourselves the funky thing about humanity is that we look at the logic and the linearness of the

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proof that needs to happen in order to actually make a change or a shift. And miracles that happen

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that are truly miracles, they don't have a logical timeline to them. There's no logical

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structure of how human beings are created. I mean, really? There's a penis and a vagina

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and some sperm and some eggs and you could try to back this thing up, but that whole thing

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is a kind of magical process. It's not like you can just go do that in a lab and you can math your

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way into it, right? So if that's the case, and we've always been able to do that, we're

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always able to do that. And we've always had these little miracles that are always happening in our

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life as simple as birth. Then when you look at the human body, the human body is a true reflection

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of Ascension. And what I mean by that is that when we make the decision as a collective of human

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beings, because we're all individual cells in this entire big machine, right? Called the Matrix, the

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human kind. And my purpose is, I might be a knee cell on the entire body. You might be a head cell

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or forehead and some, Rich, you might be the chin. It doesn't really matter what part we are, but we

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all have a very specific role to play and we all have a very specific purpose. We often look at the

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other cell and say, shit, that looks really cool to be the head. And so I want to do that. And

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that's where our separateness comes in. And that's why we create this cancerous world that we live

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in because we're not recognizing that we're all one big unit on the body. So now the Ascension is,

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is that when I look at myself, if my nose stops being a nose, then my nose will fall off, right?

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If my hands stop being a hand, they know their purpose, they do their thing. And they do it with

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all the love and the vigor at the subatomic particles, at the Planck scale, the vacuum

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fluctuation of that energy is just as much as in the universe and it is fully functioning.

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And my body is a full representation of that reality. Right. So my body is a representation

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of Ascension. And if my body is a representation of Ascension, then all I have to do is say,

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I just need to stand in my purpose and do the thing that everything in my body does on an ongoing

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basis that we fight against. Like we are like, you know, nah, you're not supposed to do that.

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I'm going to go and change something or I'm going to, you know, do something stupid to myself,

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whatever it might be, or not take care of this vessel. But the body still does it. It still

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figures it out. Right. Until we beat it into submission and it dies. But the thing about

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Ascension is, is that we have the ability as human beings to actually fully surrender into our purpose.

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And at which point, when that happens, there will be a, there will be a shift. Yes. There'll be a

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shift to where there will be us that just kind of like move into this organism. I don't know what

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it's going to be, what it's going to look like. But we'll move into some organism, some thing,

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some structure that will transcend time and space. These things will not exist anymore.

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Technology will completely shift and we'll start moving inter-dimensionally all over the place as

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like one big unit of function. And it's already happened. We just keep playing with the concept

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of time to think that we have to do some crazy ass meditation to get there. And that's cool because

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it's part of the path, right? But it's also one of those things that there's, there's a, there's going

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to be like this whipping in time to where like every thought we have creates a reality. There's

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going to be different structures and apparatuses that we live in that like literally ascend humanity

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in this one, in the state of we are oneness that is no longer a name and we are completely unborn

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and we are eternally evolving. And that to me is this Ascension process that has already happened.

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We just keep fucking around with it to try to figure out, is it really real or not?

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I don't know. So where does that leave you? Like how do you address that knowing that for

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how do you address that for yourself knowing that kind of idea exists in your head?

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Because it's, you know, there are, all of us have a purpose, right? So if I recognize that and I know

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that and we all have the power to move the mountains, you also know why it's there.

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And there's a requirement for all of us to be able to get into the path of surrendering. And if

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let's say for instance, I touch one person and that person now has the ability to touch a million.

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I was just as impactful as the one that touched the million. My ego would say I need to be the one

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that touches the million because I want to be the guy. But if that happens, that's great. If it

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doesn't happen, it's great. But it's like, how can I impact? I mean, if you think about Jesus, Jesus

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touched, you know, not that many people. Okay. Realistically, Moses touched, you know, quite a

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few, but not that many people. It wasn't like millions of, we didn't have social media. We

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didn't have any of these things, but the stories live on like crazy because of the truth that that

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person was able to stand it. You know, and what I would love to see and then put out there is the

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true stories of Christ where, you know, him being a fuck off between 18 and 32, right? And the

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vulnerability.

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You're second on that one because we had people on who talked about him. Do you think he went to

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the East during that period? Okay. That's the context that we were exploring and we do too.

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So it changes the narrative of Jesus because it means he brought to the East back to the,

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yeah, he brought them together. He brought them all together.

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There's even stories he married a lady named Miriam and they were married from 18 to 25 and

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for seven years and then she passed away. Like there's all this stuff that, you know, is out

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there. But I mean, there were mistakes. There were things. Nobody's a perfect human being,

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but that Christ consciousness, that messianic consciousness that he was able to pull in

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allowed for him to ascend, right? And once he recognized it, he's like, okay, I get it,

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but I'm here. So like the monks that get it, but they're also here. A lot of them are like,

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look, I just don't want to do that. Like, I like, like, I'm going to go sit in the thing and do the

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thing and energetically connect and go through my process. But there are those of us that are here

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to bring it to the world. There's those of us that are here to touch one or two or 10 or 10 million.

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It doesn't matter. And you know that the time is a game and it's already happened. Therefore,

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you can actually just see everything as love. And that's the Ascension process.

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Do you think that Joel Osteen is a good example of that kind of person?

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I don't, I don't know. He doesn't get enough credit. I think he knows more than people give

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him credit for. Yeah, I haven't really studied his, his, uh, I mean, I've heard him speak. I think

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he's fantastic, but I don't, I don't know too much about his, um, like what he really, really is deep

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about. A lot of his detractors would say he's Christianity light, you know? Um, but he definitely,

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I mean, we had a Tao priest on who thought he was amazing and he actually kind of talked about not

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hypnotics and then in a pejorative sense, but he said the way he talks and the way he communicates

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has an amazing ability to capture a lot of people. Right. So, um, I just was curious in that

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particular, uh, you know, framework on that. So, well, it showed up for a reason. I'll have to look

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into it. Yeah, there you go. Hey, so you, a couple of days ago, you had this amazing meditation

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and, um, you, you said in this meditation, it was designed to kind of get people kind of focused in

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that, which is real is that, which is eternal. So that that, which is truth is that, which is real.

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Yeah. That which is real is that, which is eternal. So that, that, so that which is truth is that,

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which is real. So Jonathan, if I have always said, if it's something is true, it has to be,

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did we say it has to be, if something is true, Jonathan, isn't that always true? It doesn't have

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to be, it doesn't know, isn't it always true? It kind of has an eternality to it. Right. So

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that which is real is that, which is eternal. So that which is truth is that, which is real.

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So can you unpack, can you unpack that a little bit for me? Cause it's profound and it starts to

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make sense. And then was it on his video? Yeah, it was on the video. Yeah. Yeah. I remember I

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was doing that and it just kept coming through and I'm like, I, I, you know,

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you just went with what you were downloading. Is that what I don't know what it means. I mean,

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I know what it means. I know what it means. I'm not saying I don't know what it means,

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but at the time of it, this is so damn confusing. No, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. No. I mean,

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so it's, you know, what is truth, right? Number one, um, everything has like everything that we

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witness because it's not eternal. Isn't true. Right. So it's like, if I'm looking at, you know,

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anything that's in my peripheral right now is not eternal. Nothing like nothing like even a tree,

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like there's nothing that is eternal. So therefore it's not real. Okay. Now, so if that's what is

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truth is that which is eternal, you know, and then essentially that which is real also has to be true.

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So then in that kind of context of putting that whole, um, sentence together is that recognize

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what's eternal around you and surrender constantly into that so that you can walk into a different

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reality. And then if you can recognize the only thing that is eternal in your life is the soul

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that you are in. Right. And the souls that are around you, then that's the reality that we should

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be constructing off of. And then working in that reality instead of working in the reality of,

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you know, let me go and, you know, do this work. Like, of course do the work because it's part of

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the process that you're in, but that's one of those things. That's like a by-product of the

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entire thing. So how can I incorporate and really integrate with the souls around me and in a way

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that isn't, um, a spiritual vampire or being, you know, degrading or pulling individuals down or

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hurting somebody? That's the, that's the sauce, right? Like that's the stuff that we want to,

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that we are going to continue to surrender into. And that's, that to me just makes a big shift in

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how you view things. Cause you're not, you don't take anything personal at that point. You're like,

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all right, well that happened, you know, um, what's been the, what's been the valuable part of seeing

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yourself as the we to that integration of I am the we, what's been the value of that? Cause I love

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that idea. I understand that what you're talking about because there's a greater collective that

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we are. You accept everything. You accept everything and you say everything. You see everything with

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just extreme gratitude. You see everything with wild reverence and you love everything. Even the

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stuff that you probably shouldn't like according to society is, you know, that it's part of we,

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like if we are God and we are the whole thing, then nothing that happens, it's, it's all an

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initiation and you don't take it personal. And I mean, and I can imagine the most horrific things

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happening, like say something were to happen to, you know, um, a very close friend of mine or, you

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know, fiance or son or parents, whatever it might be, you know, we take that personal. Yeah. And

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that's okay to take a personal cause it's part of the grieving process, part of the up and down,

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but it's also one of those things it's like pain. Their soul is the real thing. Their soul is the

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eternal thing. And can I love their soul beyond their body? And you know, one thing that we've

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done when in looking at, you know, all of these beautiful, um, prophets and deity like that

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deities, but you know, the prophets and everything, right? Yeah. We love their soul beyond their body.

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We love what the soul represented. That was the eternalness, not all the other broken pieces of

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them. Cause I'm sure they all had problems, right? Um, but we love, we love the legacy, the journey,

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the reality of what they were creating. And that's the real thing. Well, we love Peter

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so much because he was so broken, right? Here's a guy who watches Jesus on the Mount of

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Transfiguration, right? He's hanging out with James and John and he sees the living Christ

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coming through in his glory. And then the next thing you know, he cuts off the servants here

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cause he forgets what Jesus came for. And then he's denying him three times, right? Um, right there

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before the crucifixion. And so we're thankful that we have somebody who could open mouth and put in

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foot, but realize at the end of the day that his heart was in the right place, but we get to

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suffer with them, right? We get to make these mistakes and realize that grace is real. And we

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we're thankful for that. Right. And I think that you look at the prophets, you know, you got a guy,

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I mean, for help, heaven's sake, Elijah calls down fire, you know, upon the prophets at Baal,

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Mount Carmel, um, Jonathan, and then runs away from Jezebel, right? So he, here he is calling

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down freaking fire. I got on this altar. He made a little joke with the priests and he says, okay,

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why don't you put water? Uh, no, he says, try to light the fire. I don't know what happened. Um,

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I think he asked him to put water all over the place. They couldn't light this thing on fire.

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And then he goes, maybe your God's pissing, you know, have taken a, taken a leak someplace,

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you know? And then all of a sudden he does it and he calls it down. So he's,

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everything's consumed and he's, he's the bad ass of the day. And then next thing you know,

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the next day he runs away from Queen Jezebel, you know? And so you have things like that. I think

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that's what I also love about the Bible. I think you love the Bible too, in many regards. And you

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called it the most dangerous book in fact, because of the reflection of what happens. And I just

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love this Sean, because Jonathan, I got to tell you how many times as an apologist for the

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Calvinistic side of things in faith, when I would open up that Bible, the first thing that I would

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start doing was I was looking for those verses that would justify my position. And what a fucked up

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thing is that, right? Instead of looking at the light, yeah, it's looking to the light of the

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spirit that goes into those words and using them instead of light, you're using them for, you know,

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at least a backhanded slap to say, I've got the upper hand. And, you know, but thank God you've

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got so many, you know, people just screwing up in the Bible, right? Even David, right? Just what a

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mess. He's a murderer, he's an adulterer, right? And yet at the end of the day, he had that heart.

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So I just love, I love that we've got these stories, you know? Yeah, I did too. Let me ask

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you a question. What do you feel is the responsibility of this awareness? And do you look at it as, oh,

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I should go create this thing that makes it happen? Or are you taking an approach that says,

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I'm just going to be in the moment and do whatever that is? Which one are you leaning towards?

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That's a great question. That is a great question. So it's, for me, it's moving away from any

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efforting and really into a receiving, you know, I was reading or do some like working with the,

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you know, Kabbalistic teachings right now and kind of going through that and studying that entire,

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you know, tree life and, you know, going from Ketzer all the way to Malchutz and, you know,

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what all those things mean. And, you know, we were all, we were all born to just receive the light.

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Right. And, but the reality of it is, is that if I was born with a silver spoon, I'm never going to

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appreciate it. And so to your point in this whole process that I used to want to be like, I want to

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go save the world and let's go fix everybody and let's, you know, I wrote out these different

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stages of consciousness that we go through because what I started to notice is like, you know,

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like my old ego has kind of toward the October of last year, I saw these people just start popping

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off and I'm like, well, shit, my stuff is just as good, if not better. That's, that's kind of what

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I was saying. And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What, what, what,

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what am I saying right now? And I'm like, you know what, everybody, there's something for everybody,

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you know, for those that have years old from here, what they, they're going to hear the thing that

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they need to hear at the time. And it might not be my message, but I know that my message might

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impact the person that's like crushing it with somebody else out there. Right. And as long as

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we are helping individuals walk through those different stairs, those steps and up that ladder,

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that's what's important. So the responsibility for me to go out and be like, I got to shift

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the whole thing, not me. It's a we thing. So I go, babe, took me right back to the we thing. Once I

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realized that there's no I or me that I have to do anything, but what ends up happening is the more

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that I receive and widen my vessel, the more that the instructions are all over the place,

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the more instructions roll in and the more people show up in my life that literally are the stepping

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stones for me to continue to walk down and they guide me. So now when people show up in my life,

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I am in absolute awe and reverence because they are literally a guide that I've created for myself

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to take me down a path in order for us to do something together. And that feels so much

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different than me sitting here like, okay, I got to come up with the plan and figure it out.

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But it all works. It's like, oh, well, I got a guy that's building out a whole like conscious

435
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community mystery school. I got another one over here that's building this thing called in life.

436
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There's another guy over here that's building another thing and I'm just part of it and I'm

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in it. And you know, individuals like, how do you do so much stuff? It's like, I'm just kind of like

438
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flowing. I'm just moving like the water. How does the water, you know, the next problem?

439
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, you were also talking earlier about how the hand

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does what it's supposed to do and the nose does what it's supposed to do. And when they're

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supposed to do what they're supposed to do, you don't even think about it, right? And that's the

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kind of rhythm though. It's, that's what the ego wants to be this big light and say, look at me

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when being part of the we gives you what you actually want. That's the joke of it is the ego

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never realizes because they can never let go that the very thing, the fulfillment from we

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is the very thing that I seeks. And I'm realizing, God, I've created this Jonathan

446
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avatar for myself and I'm learning to let it go. Like really what happens if I don't stay alive?

447
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Like what happens in three generations? It's like, it's not as big of a deal as my amygdala wants.

448
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The reality is that I'm not going to experience it anyways. And who knows? Because now I'm realizing

449
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we are energy. We always can do conservation of energy. That's 100%. Understanding quantum physics

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basically was the greatest validation of what Christ consciousness was. That to me is the only,

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that's the thing is this Jesus guy actually created this idea or exposed it that if you just love

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life gets really good. And he created this idea of the way and just gave simple language to it.

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And we've been playing around it for like 2000 years and I think it's waking up.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's like three, three things that I'll kind of speak to it around this,

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like this Christ consciousness. So like one of them is what I've noticed in, in, in when I reread

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it, I've like reread, you know, different stories of Christ and I started watching the shows in the

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other day because I got a client that's involved in it. I'm like, Oh, this is great. Is that one

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thing that Christ did is never use his gifts to save anybody. He only used his gifts to show other

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people how to save themselves. Yes. And like when I was looking at the deal in the, um,

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where he's feeding the individuals and he's like, you know, the disciples went and sat, sat with

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chat. Yeah, that'd be great. The disciples went and sat with individuals in these groups.

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And pods and it was taking the teachings and going and showing other individuals. And it's like,

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Oh, well they all got fed. When did they get fed? I mean, we still could say it's bread and

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this and so on and so forth. But when we know the symbology of the bread and the blood or the bread

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and the wine and what they actually had, it wasn't the food. It was the information and the

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knowledge. Yeah. Feeding them the knowledge was the thing that came in. Now what does the ego do?

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The ego says, well, shit, I don't deserve this. I'm not worthy of it. So I need to look at this guy

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as the King. He's the guy that did it. Jesus is the guy. And then they revered him instead of

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revering themselves as the ones that were creating. And he kept pointing people back to that.

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And so there's, there's that aspect of it. And then what that led me to is then going deeper into

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some like I delved into this Rudolph Steiner thing even further where he was talking about the Jehovah

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and, um, Aramonic. Have you, have you studied Aramon and Lucifer and how all this stuff works?

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Tiny, tiny, not Aramon. I've always hold the Luciferian is the light bearer, right? Yeah.

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And in terms of Masonic, um, stuff, I mean, I mean, I mean, there's a lot of people who don't

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think that Lucifer is actually a bad guy. He's actually, um, but do you know the characters?

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Not did not the second guy only know the Luciferian one that your, your son's talked

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about him a lot. Who's the, if he's the light, if Lucifer is the light bearer, who's the dark

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bearer, Satan, but don't a lot of people say Lucifer is Satan. Uh, not in Masonic terms. No.

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They, they differentiate the two. So Aram, Aramon is like the, so basically you have two different

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devils, which are the extensions of polarity at both ends, right? You've got the light and you've

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got the dark, you've got all this dark as it could possibly be. You've got as light as it could

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possibly be. If you go all the way into the dark, you're blind. You go all the way into the light.

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You're blind. Both of them are problematic. Okay. So the polarities are always where the chaos is.

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Yeah. Luciferian energy lives on the extensions of ether, air and water.

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The state we can call it Satan or we can call it Aramonic energy either way sits inside of the core

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materialism, the matter and what's actually in this world. There's a threshold. They either call it

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a Braxis, Masonic energy, Christ consciousness, whatever you want to, that is the gateway that

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allows the Jehovah and the ether, air and the water to then translate into what we call the mineral

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or the material space of this world.

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Hold on a second. Is that the moment that energy becomes matter? Is that that point?

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That's the point when yeah, it comes in and then it translates into reality. Now the thing is,

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is the Jehovah energy will never touch the matter. It has to go through the gateway of this

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consciousness or this threshold or the Braxis or the, this threshold energy that sits there.

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And the ascension process is us being able to hold the space of pulling in the light,

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loving the darkness, bringing the light into the darkness and being able to paint the picture of

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our creation, which we do that in a microspace. We did in a macrospace. You go to the law of

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correspondence, it's ourselves do that inside of our body, as well as our, we do that, but we just

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do it with like fucked up thoughts sometimes. And then there's more, right? And so we are

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constantly walking in that space. We just don't see it all as love and we choose a side, which is why

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a lot of spiritual individuals get lost in the light. Like, Oh, like what I've noticed a lot of,

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a lot of billionaires and millionaires that I talk to, you know, that many billionaires out there

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would have talked to a handful, they start getting into spirituality and they're like, Oh, I just

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got to go to the light thing because they conquered the materialism. So what, what do they do? The

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pendulum swings to the right as much as swings left. Now they go chase light. They get lost in

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the light. Interesting. Would you say Tony Robbins is like that? He seems to be always, always in

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the light, always in the positive side. Would you say that that's an example of his thought?

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I think Tony, I honestly think Tony's Tony's kind of balanced.

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He is too. Yeah. Can you give an example of somebody who's gone into the light who

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wants to stay in the light side of things? Just as example.

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No, he's an integrator. I would say that he integrates and he can, he can impact. He's,

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he's more balanced. Like other individuals that I've noticed is like they'll, they get on the

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journey and then they go chase the light and they're in plant medicine ceremonies every week. They

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are like, you see a lot of actors, like, you know, Will Smith done like 80 some, I don't know,

514
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hundreds of ayahuasca ceremonies because he's trying to escape this thing, but he was able

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to master the material space. Like he was able to, and that's like when you make the sign of deal

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with the devil, you know, whatever you want to call it. It's like, I'm going to not be in the

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light in order to make a deal. And I used to, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did, I did,

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I did that at one point. I was like, I'll make a deal with the material space. Right. And I want

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to crush it. What happens is when our intention is meant for so much more, we never able to keep it.

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And it just like comes and goes. And some of us make that deal to where we want to keep it. And

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so we ignore the light. And once consciousness pulls us up into a space, the responsibility of

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those that have made that deal are going to have to relinquish it. And there'll be just this like

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massive purging, which is, you know, I anticipate some weird financial crisis that is going to force

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people to let go of their money. Energy is neither created or destroyed. It will shift into something

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else. And then at which point, um, it will be democratized for the masses so that we can all

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live in the abundance of ourselves and quit worrying about all this nonsense.

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Do you think that happens quickly or over like a decade? What's your feeling on that?

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Well, that's a relative thing. It could be, it could be very quick.

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It could be. I think it could be very, very quick. Yeah. Very, very quick. Yeah. I mean,

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you can see the signs. I mean, we're already gearing up for, you know, central bank,

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digital currency way, you know, Bitcoin is now a commodity, you know, so we literally have a

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thing that's created off an energy. That's now a currency that is now a commodity. And it's starting

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to translate so that it can back up this actual digital currency that's going to show up. It's no

534
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accidents, right? Uh, when that happens, you know, all of the standards of the material ways that

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we've seen the world, it'll translate from this thing that we could hold and see to something we

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can't hold and see anymore. And then we're just going to have to trust in the process. It's

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letting go of the gold standard, the dollars, the things along those lines and saying, okay,

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well, this is the thing that we're going to have to lean into. Yeah. I don't know if you guys

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heard this, but, um, I just heard, I didn't even know about this, but I guess we had two

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destroyers in the Red Sea, uh, that were attacked. Uh, we were trying to guard some cargo because

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there's a lot of money, a lot of revenue, a lot of trade that goes in between that. And we had to

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turn around because the Houthis were launching drone strikes at our destroyers, right? So we

543
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turned tail. So there's a lot of stuff that's happening. I was like, Whoa, this is getting

544
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serious, right? You've got a movie called civil war coming out by 24 productions. And it's like,

545
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okay, we really have a civil war brewing literally on our border right now. You can't fucking make

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this stuff up. And it's literally all written out for you. You know, you got to leave the world

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behind. It came out a few months ago and sometimes it feels like we're still freaking scripted,

548
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you know? And so, but, and, and, and to think and to feel like the writings on the wall with,

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I mean, China's looking like having, it's having a hell of a time with its own currency and stuff.

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So, but that being said, right, we, we still have this imperative to, to live our best lives and to

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collect with each other. And I think there's ways to rise above this and to vibrate higher

552
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,120
than the shit crashing around us, you know? And that's how we get it, get through it together.

553
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:20,480
Yeah. And the, what's going to be interesting is seeing the world and like, you know, whenever

554
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,360
you interpret dreams, the dream is not the way that it's that it's not the way that we think it

555
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:31,200
is. So, you know, my fiance was having a conversation about a dream the other day where she was like

556
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,320
looking for her mother, right? Well, it's not the fact that you're looking for your mother,

557
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,440
right? It's something else inside of that. So like when we went a little bit deeper into it

558
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,040
and what that meant, it was the fact that she was looking for the divine feminine within her.

559
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,240
So the, when we start to move from this logical world to the magical world, the way that we'll

560
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,400
have to read it is not the way that our minds can contact. Like it's not the way that we can make

561
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,400
sense of it. It's going to be like, Oh, well, this stuff is happening over here. Oh, it's doom

562
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:01,280
and gloom. No, it's actually purge and release. So when we look at that as like a loving aspect,

563
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:05,600
it's positive side of the energy, right? It just gives the energy and it's like, Oh, okay.

564
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Well, now the currency system over in China is off. Well, but then all of a sudden the currency

565
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:16,240
and the pesos going bananas in Mexico. It's not as it seems, right? There's something within that,

566
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,800
but there's a, you know, what's being, what's happening is individuals are getting rewarded

567
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,520
for being in their hearts. You know, one thing I noticed in like, when I go down to Mexico

568
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:32,080
is, you know, the, the, the way they put value on themselves tied to money isn't the same as it is

569
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:37,120
over here, you know, and they will work their ass off and from an integration perspective. So

570
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,800
their ability to integrate and get stuff done is pretty solid. The problem is, is they don't get

571
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,680
rewarded for it. So now what's happening is the currency and the energy is starting to basically

572
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,760
reward them, whether we like it or not. And those that aren't doing the integration,

573
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,280
they're actually losing value. Like it's really interesting watching all these things kind of

574
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:05,360
like shift and you know, it's a, it's a correction. Yeah. Well, you just naturally, I mean, I live in

575
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,080
Southern California, right? And so I am used to, I mean, you, you're in LA half the time, right? LA

576
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:16,160
and New York, right? You spend some time between both coasts. So, um, we, we see, you know, these

577
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,680
poor guys out at four 30 in the morning, you know, we're, we're having a holiday and they're out

578
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,840
there at five o'clock picking stuff out there all the time, sending multiple generations here to

579
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,560
work their asses off to send them home. You know, I mean, even one of the congressmen was kind of

580
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,040
saying, well, who's going to, you know, you know, wash your car and do all this stuff. Like, oh,

581
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,280
you know, it was supposed to be a kind of a, you know, it was supposed to be a bagging on Republicans.

582
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,080
And here she is saying, you know, who's going to, you know, take care of all these things. In fact,

583
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,880
there was a movie called the day without a Mexican, right? So maybe it is time for that shift, um,

584
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:51,680
Sean. And when you say that integration, are you saying that the hard work they're doing somehow

585
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,640
is being tied also to their heart, that that's why you're seeing this peso valuation increase in that

586
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,800
and their wealth immediately get better? Or when you, what kind of integration are you talking

587
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,680
about for the Mexican people? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, it's more of the fact that they are,

588
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,160
yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's the hard work. So like what's happening now is that, you know, in,

589
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:15,360
in this stage of, um, the cat tour to the Malhu and going through the tree of life, it actually,

590
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:21,600
it's going to the root, right? So everything in our foundation is emptying down when what we've

591
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,840
done historically is we've honored this, right? We've honored overly intellectual thinking,

592
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:32,080
we've honored a bunch of ideation, we've rewarded that, but we haven't rewarded the integration of

593
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:37,520
that. And those that can even lightly integrate become wildly successful. Okay. So now there's

594
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:43,200
aspects of how we are honoring this earth, the work that we're doing physically here,

595
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,400
which is why like old people used to get mad and they're like, you know, there's these people don't

596
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,280
even know how to work anymore because that blood, sweat and tears and that integration of like

597
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,960
actually truly working from your emotions down is a big difference. And when you work with passion

598
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,000
and you put your feelings into what you're doing and you bring it from your heart, that has to move

599
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000
from here down, they're not thinking about it. It's almost like a constant meditation when they're

600
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,400
out there doing it and just getting it and going and doing that rhythmic work. It's like a meditation,

601
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,240
but it's coming from here down. And so energetically, it starts to then shift the dynamic

602
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:22,160
of the way that, you know, currencies and whatnot are being reintegrated back into this world. And

603
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,960
then you're starting to see like this valuation take off in the peso. That's like, it's actually

604
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:33,840
pissing really rich. Like I have some Mexican friends down there that do really well. And they're

605
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:39,760
like, fuck, this is messing up my whole system because like it's just popping off. And their

606
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,920
valuation is going up. But it's funny to see, but who it's rewarding is those that are working hard,

607
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,480
those that have been sitting on it and leveraging the dollar against the peso and, you know, kind

608
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:55,760
of like using it for their benefit. It's actually hurting them because they've been working from

609
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:01,600
this space and trying to logic their way around it instead of the other way around. And it's

610
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,960
quite interesting to see. Hey, Sean, you know, I realized a question I wanted to ask you for a long

611
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:15,360
time is help our audience understand, cause you prolifically talk about this, the difference between

612
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:24,880
3d, 4d and 5d. Yeah. So 3d is, you know, I can go through the dimensional kind of breakdown of it,

613
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:33,600
but so the third dimension is really a space of time understanding. It's what we call the spark.

614
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,720
Right. So any, you know, it's the, there's the Trinity in it. It's understanding what experiences

615
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:46,400
are like tied to time. And it's, you know, there, there really is no plan in it. I mean, it can,

616
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,360
it can have a plan drop into it, but there's really no plan in it. It's just kind of like

617
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:56,160
a being in an experience. The 4d is what I call, and some people can disagree with this, is the,

618
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,080
it's the bridge to your higher consciousness, this 5d consciousness that we can get into.

619
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,600
And you have to go through, so when you start going through trials and issues and problems in

620
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,600
life and so on and so forth, and there are the devils that you have to overcome, whether it's

621
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,320
the devil, the light or the dark, whatever it might be, it's the bridge that you have to walk over.

622
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:21,520
Right. And so in that bridge that you have to walk over, once you pass it, it then entitles you,

623
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:26,240
you become worthy because you have to go through those stages of being able to receive.

624
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,040
That's not just like the silver spoon being handed to you. So you have to go through that.

625
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,280
And once you get to the 5d, you can now start seeing everything as love. And it's a choice

626
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,920
because it's not, we're not going to stay in 5d because there's a whole world for us to experience

627
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,640
here in 3d that is tied to these time experiences that not everybody's out of them. We're all part

628
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,400
of the same body. So therefore what's my responsibility? Our responsibility is that

629
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:53,840
I can go and grab information and I can bring it back across. And every time I go back and cross

630
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,360
this threshold of this fourth dimension, I'm going to be challenged and tested because you know what,

631
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:04,880
there's going to be a troll on that bridge that pops up and says, Hey, you know, pay the toll.

632
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,720
What do you need to do here? And it's going to be an initiation for me to stay in 5d.

633
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:14,160
An initiation for me to stay in the truth of what I know to say that 5d is so important,

634
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,280
but I also know that I have a responsibility to work in this world. And so it's like a bridge

635
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:24,160
between the two. And then once you're there in the 5d, it's that, okay, well then there's a plan

636
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:30,640
that you can connect to in the sixth dimension where God is basically pulling you and your plan

637
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,480
into yourself. And this is the information that you can receive, which is why we get downloads

638
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,800
and we get in that really high state is that the plan of God dropping right into you and you now

639
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,120
have the ability to translate that into the third dimension. And now you're walking with the plan

640
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:48,160
in your life and you're also able to translate that for others. That is beautiful. That is

641
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,720
absolutely beautiful, brother. I really appreciate that. Oh, thanks man. Thank you. I've never heard

642
00:58:52,720 --> 00:59:00,320
that it was eloquently put. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I'm wondering if a microcosm of that is when Paul

643
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:06,640
was able to enter in that third heaven, he came down from it and then he got this

644
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:12,720
thorn in his side and he asked God for the thorn to be gone. And he goes, no, my grace is sufficient

645
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:16,240
for you. And I've always wondered like what the hell happened up in that third heaven?

646
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,440
Cause we know that he's fucking amazing. I mean, I mean, outside of Jesus, Paul is pretty much the,

647
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:27,600
would you say, um, Jonathan and Christianity, the second most important person that kind of walked

648
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,640
the face of the earth besides, I mean, who else besides? That would put David ahead of Paul.

649
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,080
You put David ahead of Paul in terms of Christianity. Paul was the mind. Yeah. So,

650
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:42,720
but I mean, but I always often thought that's the troll. There's a thorn here that says, no dude,

651
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,480
you've been up there. This is your grounding. You have this going on just so you could remember

652
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:53,440
all the time. You know, what's here, you need to share it. And when you feel that pain, that's

653
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,840
your groundedness and what's going on in this, in this 3d. I think that's, that's, that's,

654
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,880
that's amazing, man. You know what a lot of people don't even think about is Paul was basically

655
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:10,560
silent for 15 years. So he didn't just go run out and do all this stuff. He was, he, he, he basically

656
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:17,600
probably experienced a lot of shit in his head for 15 years, trying to overcome his own. I mean, he,

657
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:25,280
he was a brutal person and then learn because the journey is ultimately the only person I have to

658
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:31,840
deal with is me. And so for Paul, he had to deal with the fact that if he saw Jesus had a physiological

659
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:37,600
real experience and it completely blinded him, what do you do with that kind of experience? You

660
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,080
know, and it took him a long time probably to forgive himself. Yeah. Well, I think what's

661
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:47,040
interesting is that, you know, the blinding and even the silence, it's a hell of a possum retreat,

662
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:53,040
right? I mean, it's literally, it's literally like, you know, you take away, if he's overly cerebral,

663
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,920
then let me remove what you can see. He redid it for himself. I'm going to remove what I can see

664
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,360
and I'm going to remove the actual thing and I'm going to go within and I'm going to sit within

665
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,080
that. And if you think about the 15, the one in the five to six, right? It's the six is the plan

666
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:10,160
of God. He's literally pulling in the plan of God through that period of time, culminating that over

667
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:16,400
a course that, you know, is a six. It's kind of interesting when you look at it. Yeah. Sean,

668
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:23,040
did you see book of Clarence? I didn't know. Should I? Yes. It's very unique. I,

669
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:28,640
Lakeith Sanfield is my favorite actor and the director who did it, it's basically

670
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:38,240
the 13th apostle tries to be like Jesus and ends up discovering he is I am. It's a phenomenal story.

671
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:43,440
It's a little, it's not perfect in terms of that. He has a comedic element to it that doesn't quite

672
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:48,880
work, but the story is phenomenal. You, I think you'd absolutely love it because it's all about

673
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:54,800
a human being who's completely doubting, arcing all the way over to completely believing. He says,

674
01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:05,120
and the end is I don't believe I know. And the knowing the gnosis is that final state of the arc

675
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:12,080
to know I am. It's a phenomenal story. Is it on, is it on? It just came out in theaters. It's still

676
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:18,960
probably in theaters. Okay. I have to go. Wow. I never heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I

677
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:24,480
remember. I remember this trailer. Actually I've been wanting to see this. Okay. It's unique. It's

678
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:30,880
unlike any movie you've probably ever seen. And that's what he was trying to go for. It's kind

679
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,920
of wild. So I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on it after you see it. Okay. Yeah. I'll check it

680
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:43,680
out. I'll check it out. All right. Hey, what's your plans for this year? Oh man. Like what's the

681
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:54,960
thing with your like awareness to where is Sean bringing 5d back to 3d this year? Is there any

682
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:02,240
thought process that's kind of resonating? I don't say, I don't say I have a plan. I'd say my, I'm

683
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:07,760
just, I'm very intentional in the now and it, as I've done this, it's like the plan is architecting

684
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:14,960
itself with me. So what's showing up right now for you? Oh man. Like, you know, like I, you know,

685
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,960
all the intentions that I said at the end of last year have almost all happened within the first 25

686
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:24,800
days of the year, which is crazy. Um, I had an, you know, like, Hey, we want clients that are values

687
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:31,120
aligned. Every single one of them landed a huge client for, um, spirituality. And it's like,

688
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:36,560
okay, this is great. All those things are locking in, you know, um, being able to truly stay in the

689
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,560
integrity of what that means inside a client, potential client the other day that I'm like,

690
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:46,000
Oh, this guy built all this amazing technology around, um, taking 5,000 years of learning and

691
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:52,320
putting it into an app. And you know, there was a, there was a, there was an initiation that I was,

692
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,920
basically I could have made a lot of money on them. If I took the plan that he wanted me to

693
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,920
execute on, I said, look, this is, I can't work with you this way. I have to work with you in a way

694
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,000
that's going to grow your business. Not in a way, cause he got pitched by another group at the same

695
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,840
time. And they wanted him to do this thing that was all glitz and glamor, but there was not effective,

696
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,600
but I would have made a lot of money on it. I said, he's all work with you. If you do this thing,

697
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:19,600
I was like, I can't do that. I can't, I can't, I could, but it would be out of integrity of me

698
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,240
knowing that I would be helping you. And so, I mean, it was a pretty significant thing and I was,

699
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,400
I let it go, but it was beautiful to just be able to let that go. And then as soon as I did,

700
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,520
something else came in. So I had done the planning thing. It would have been like, oh, this is

701
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,280
revenue. This is a thing. I want to do this and then help these people in this business.

702
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:45,040
But I didn't take it. And, and then literally right after that, 10 times the blessings came in. So

703
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:51,040
I'm in the space of constantly being just delighted and receiving what that delight looks like.

704
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:57,840
Even in the, even in the, even in the choice of turning away from something that Sean,

705
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,800
even five months ago would have been like, yeah, let's go, let's get it.

706
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,920
So there's that. I would say that when it comes to, you know, this,

707
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:15,200
how we all awaken together, it's just getting with individuals and creating different

708
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:24,320
apparatuses and areas of momentum that allow people to just be entertained by consciousness,

709
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:29,840
to find different lanes, to find themselves that don't feel overly dogmatic and scary,

710
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:37,760
that they are becoming the creator of this and finding ways just into their heart

711
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:43,760
and helping people get away from this whole like money game. That's just a really negative trap

712
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:51,520
that showing people how money isn't a thing anymore. So that I have a notion about that too.

713
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:59,200
What's happened? You went, you want to contemplate the we, money doesn't make sense. Like it,

714
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:05,600
that's the thing that I resonate with. What you're saying is money stops becoming important.

715
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:10,640
Yeah. In the we. Yeah. Wouldn't you just give to yourself if it's the we and you wouldn't

716
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,560
no longer hold back to try to profit from somebody else? There's no benefit for the all there.

717
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:21,840
Yeah. But collectively, if it's the benefit for they all, like that's what Rich and I have been

718
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:29,520
talking about on occasion around the idea of capitalism. Capitalism is ultimately the profit

719
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,840
for me, which is competitive based. What if it switched to cooperative, which is essentially a

720
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:43,280
co-op, but if it's solidified and becomes about the we, how much more effective we could actually be?

721
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:50,480
It would be effective, attractive, repetitive. Yes. Right. It's all these things, right? It's

722
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:57,840
the flywheel that Nick talked about yesterday. It's co-creation. It is iterative. It's

723
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:04,320
it is. It is iterative and repetitive. And it's, I mean, everybody shares in it, right? And so

724
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:10,720
it's amazing. A hundred percent. Yeah. That's what's on the radar is that shift of capitalism.

725
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:18,000
Cause it's harbinger of the, it's kind of like that. The grind of most men I know.

726
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,400
It's like, I still want to make a lot of money, but something's really broken.

727
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:30,080
Yeah. That's one thing I love about Judaism. When I watch them in community, they are a religion,

728
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:35,840
a race and a community, right? And watching those communities function and support each other.

729
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,880
And then they have different, you know, areas of them, but watching them support each other and how,

730
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:46,800
you know, it's like a, even someone in the Indian culture as well, but really in Judaism,

731
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,120
I watch that and they support each other and their community aligned and they just,

732
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:56,640
they go to work like, and they, you know, and they got each other's backs. And it's like this

733
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little organism that has a lot of light in the way that even Hebrew language and things are

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structured, there's stuff in that, that is like very, um, frequency aligned and oriented to why

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these things come to them and why it happens. And even why some, they have some very dark days,

736
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um, on the other side. So, um, if we could all kind of look at that as an example of how to build

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our communities, it starts to shift the way we show up in the world. Cause there is no more real eye.

738
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Um, sure. Well, it's what, what would happen if everyone could start with basic needs, like place,

739
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a place to sleep, a place at food to eat, clothes for your back and the capacity to work saying,

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Hey, I'm willing to work. I've done the math and you can scale that down because if you move to

741
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cooperative, you shift away from sales and marketing, which you don't need because you've

742
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got a cooperative agreement for everybody taking care. And then now you're working half the time

743
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and you're collaboratively creating beauty and art and experience and adventure that is

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deeply meaningful. I asked, that's my wonder. That's when I sit in the middle of what I call

745
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the unified field. When I walk my dog at night, I just ponder and sit in that space of unity.

746
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And what shows up is a world where everyone, uh, can thrive because of the agreement of trust

747
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that's created through cooperation. That's what I want to see for my children and my grandchildren.

748
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I love it, dude.

749
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You know, do you think D is a different world? Repeat that again. Do you think five D is a

750
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:57,200
different world? No, it's not even, I wouldn't even say it's a world. It's just an energy field.

751
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It's just a dimension of understanding around a level of resonance of love that

752
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allows for us to play in different dimensions. Right? So if I can, you know, it's like going,

753
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you know, it's like the going to the store and grabbing, getting something and bringing it home

754
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and making a really beautiful meal. Um, it's a, it's just a really amazing ingredient that allows

755
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us to, um, transcend space and time. And it puts a different lens on this three D to when we look at

756
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it, we're like, we're not looking at it the way that we have looked at it before.

757
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So is that what they mean by magical moments, Sean, where it could be something relatively

758
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simple actually, but it actually has something that's meaningful and, and, and, and it stands

759
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out. I mean, you, you think about, um, where there's a vibe and family together, there's,

760
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there's a time when it's just, Hey, groceries, dinner, go to bed, right? Then there's other

761
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times where something happens in the moment. And there's this sense of joy that kind of

762
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transcends a normal mundane mundane kind of thing, or is it something different that, and

763
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even like I'm thinking in a negative sense, there's a guy you might remember. He is the

764
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Buddhist monk set himself on fire to protest, you know, the war as he's on the rage against

765
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the machine album. You guys know that guy, right? And this guy was just sitting completely

766
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still. That guy was not in three D. I mean, that guy was someplace else, right? As his

767
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body was being consumed and it was perfectly still, right? I don't know what you want to call

768
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:27,280
that, but, um, is that what you're saying that it can actually be, it doesn't have to be something

769
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like, like esoteric, it can be something relatively normal, but it actually like a special

770
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:40,080
moment kind of comes in. What do you maybe flesh that out? Yeah. So like the, we, yeah, it's, it's,

771
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it's the math. So even like the, what you said in the magical, the magical is not the logical

772
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question. And so to your point, we oftentimes try to reference things from a logical mind,

773
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which is why the mind is such a, it can be a dangerous thing. And so mapping, mapping your

774
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life or mapping the things that you witness of being able to see everything as a miracle,

775
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:07,360
being able to see everything with the lens of magic and all, which is why children are just like,

776
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:11,280
so beautiful to watch. Cause you're just like watching them and they're just in this off state

777
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:16,320
about the simplest thing. It's like, yeah, it's great. But then we logically are like, well,

778
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,920
it's not because there's more, but there's not more because that's all that there is.

779
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So us being able to move from the mundane, being able to truly see everything is like this magical

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moment. We start going away from the linearness and trying to create straight lines. And then we

781
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start to move in curves. And when you move in curves, you're moving around the thing that

782
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hasn't been there. And actually that's the fastest way because you're now witnessing things from all

783
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:47,200
different perspectives. You're not just looking at one thing. You're looking at all types of

784
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possibilities. Right. And there really are no straight lines. It's only the straight lines

785
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,480
are created. Even if I look at this wall that has straight lines behind it, every individual cell

786
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:03,680
on that is a circle that makes up a straight line. Right. And then that in itself appears that way,

787
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:09,600
but it's only from the construct that we created it to force it into that, but it's not meant to

788
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be that. So it's moving from logical to magical and then seeing everything with that magical lens

789
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and that awe and that reverence. And when you do that, that's when the simplest thing, this

790
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:25,440
conversation, like what's the most, somebody, what's the most, the most magical thing you've

791
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:31,120
ever had happen in your life? This moment right now. Right. This is the best podcast ever.

792
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:34,960
Ever. And then the next one you have will be the best one ever.

793
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,600
This is actually one of my funnest ones though. Sean, you're so fun to hang out with. I appreciate

794
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:45,760
it brother because you look into life very deeply and you're not afraid. I think that's

795
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:51,600
what I appreciate about you is you're adventurous with your own soul to take risks with love that

796
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:58,800
has profoundly shown up for you. And I love that about you. You're gentle, but you have a deep

797
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:04,800
strength. So I love that you have both sides of the energy. You have a masculine side and you have

798
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:11,120
a feminine side. So I appreciate your voice and what you're trying to do because what I see on

799
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:18,160
your reels, especially is just this desire to help people ascend. I don't even know if that's the

800
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:25,040
right word, but just to see the bigger picture and I hope to see more of you this year.

801
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:30,640
So, yeah, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have to, we'll have to just get together and figure it out. But

802
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,440
I appreciate you guys. You were, as I was on this and I just like even appreciate you initially

803
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:41,840
reaching out. I'll always be a huge supporter and fan of what you guys are doing. And, you know,

804
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,160
whenever you need me, I'm around. I'm here to keep loving on each other. Yeah. Love it, man.

805
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:53,600
Awesome. So this has been one of our funnest episodes, at least for me. I know it probably

806
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:59,120
is for you, Rich. Sean, thank you for being with us again. And thank you to all of our listeners.

807
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,840
This has been a wonderful episode. We've got a lot of amazing people this week that we're

808
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:08,320
interviewing. So those will be rolled out over the next couple of days. And Sean, thank you.

809
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:23,200
This has been an awesome one. So much love, everybody. Yeah. Love you guys. Honored. Thank

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you.