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Welcome to Living in the Matrix. I'm Jonathan and I'm left of center.

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And I'm Rich and I tend to lean a little bit more to the right.

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But the bottom line is, is together we try to look for the balance

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of what it means to be human in today's world.

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All right, let's get started. And this is a welcome everybody.

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This is Living in the Matrix. I'm Jonathan. Rich is out of town.

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I'm sorry, he's at a business meeting today.

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So unfortunately, he will not be able to join us.

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But today we have Tracy Lit. Tracy, welcome. It's a pleasure to have you on.

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Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.

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Yeah. So you and I have been, well, actually I say you've been sharing content for quite a long time.

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And what stood out to me is your love for women.

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Where did that come from? Like, what's your background in terms of brought you to this stage?

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Because I love it.

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Yeah. Thank you so much. I'm so grateful that we,

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the universe connected us through Instagram, right?

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Like, and that's important for everyone to recognize.

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It's like all of these technological mediums have just opened

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the ability to have broader conversations.

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So the inspiration for women really first came through me as a woman

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and learning about myself, how masculine I was,

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how keep my head down, push through I was.

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My inspiration for women is because I'm one of three girls on the middle of my two sisters.

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I have three daughters.

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So I live in a woman's world.

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And my mother, who unfortunately passed when I was 24,

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she, towards the end of her life was a women's empowerment speaker and a spiritual leader.

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And I also come from a really, really long line of wise Jewish Yiddish women of the village,

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like old, old, old school would sit around the fire.

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And there is a magic inside of women.

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And too many women have been, that magic has been dulled or pushed down,

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or maybe there was a total lack of awareness of the depth and scope of power.

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So I'm here to say it loud.

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So let me ask you this question from a female perspective or feminine empowered perspective.

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What do you think is the real power of being feminine?

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So what I love about what you just asked is let's separate it because

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the power of feminine energy is actually not specific to the gender of being a woman.

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I agree. I agree.

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Right? So fun.

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Yes, I agree.

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So, and that's part of like, I can already feel like you and I are just going to go there.

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Oh yeah.

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So the feminine energy component,

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there is a soft, grounded, womb space kind of rooted feeling in the power of feminine energy.

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It's not like the old school lens of empowerment was like, hear me roar.

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Oh, you know, and that's like, that's, that's over.

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It's this, right.

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It's this sense of wholeness because you and I are just like,

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I love wholeness because you and I know,

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and everyone who is listening to your beautiful show knows that we are energy

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and we come from something much greater than us.

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And when, and that means that inherently we're whole, right?

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We don't play the, I'm not enough game.

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Once you wake up and you recognize the truth of what you are.

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So when you come from this wholeness, there's this soft grounded power

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that is not about assertiveness and aggressiveness.

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It's about receivership and knowing and allowance and openness.

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And whether you're, whatever your gender is, that feminine energy is in you.

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And it is available to you.

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So what do you, what will you say is that energy?

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Cause it's distinctly feminine.

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What I've been really wrestling with.

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So I've been studying the human element.

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I'm very, I, I study neuroscience, literature, theology, in terms of the human makeup.

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And I, especially my background is Christianity.

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So we come, we have sort of half Jewish background in our history.

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And there's this distinction of the split between man and a woman in,

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in historical Hebrew literature.

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What I'm wrestling with right now is, and the reason why I agreed with you is because

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what I think is every human being encompasses both the masculine and feminine,

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and there's potential of both in each.

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It's not exclusive.

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Like I'm not exclusively male.

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I am born predominantly bent towards masculinity, but the real journey is discovering my femininity,

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which is the both hand.

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Men tend to focus on the mind.

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Women tend to focus on the heart.

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And when both of those are present, I think we become much more powerful, grounded human beings.

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What's your thoughts on that?

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We do.

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Well, you touched on, you know, the, the, the, the two things that are essential to your magnetism,

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to the representation of your wholeness, to your highest frequency, which we know is the

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contributing factor to the ripple effect of the human being.

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And that is the brain and the heart being in coherence.

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So you said the mind and the heart, right?

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And so much of how we've been raised and the culture, we're working on it, but we're not

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there yet with the masses, the culture and the society that we're in further affirms that

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separation, right?

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Man is man, women, women is woman.

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So even being here and going, okay, wait a second, let's literally separate the concept

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of gender out.

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And to your brilliant point go, okay, we are energy.

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We are 99.999% energy.

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So we have to start there because then that opens the mind to, to, to be willing to be

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aware that, that that means there are different energies available to me inside of me.

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I might not have noticed it, right?

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What does consciousness mean?

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It means your state or quality of your awareness.

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So now into your consciousness enters, whoa, so there's feminine energy and there's masculine

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energy and it's not about an over course correction.

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It's not about saying one side and this is me.

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It's about a beautiful allowance, an agility, a flexibility to enjoy and play in both and

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recognize the interplay of both.

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And in one being you have this gorgeous feminine energy that is like goddess receivership,

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hearts desire, you know, that, that sense in your body, like my tears are coming into

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my eyes already.

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And it's like, my heart is open and this is my desire and this is what I am available

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to deserve and receive.

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And you open that up and that's where the ease is.

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And that's where the flow is.

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And you send it out and you're in this knowing, ah, and then the masculine energy in you

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comes in to be a devotee and a deliverer of that feminine energy side.

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And that's when we make it move.

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And that's when the masculine energy shows up to like, get the shit done and take the

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And those things in marriage is like, ah, right?

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Yes, absolutely.

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My body is like, yes.

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No, I want you to keep going because I think that's what most people are looking for is

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they're looking for that congruence.

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I think that's the, that's sort of been the historical norm is let's keep them separated

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when in actuality, every human being wants, needs that connection of themselves.

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Like as a masculine man, I spent the last 30 years learning how to drop into my heart.

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And men, men stay away from their heart where women flourish in their heart.

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And I think that's the journey that is we shift from like, I believe in the age of

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Aquarius, we're shifting from a masculine age to a feminine age where what men are afraid

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of is that women are going to take over.

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Because women are a lot more powerful than we are.

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We're stronger, but they're more powerful because you're energetic.

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You're much more.

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Because here's where the real energy is.

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This isn't the real energy.

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The real energy is down here.

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You know what I'm talking about.

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You're probably feeling it.

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Oh, I'm like, ah, I'm like so with you.

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I want to interject something here.

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So no, I love it.

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So we're saying is, and I speak about this often, you know, we're all too heady.

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We've all been, all of the trauma responses and adaptive behaviors all live in over

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functioning, over analyzing, overthinking, right?

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We get way too cognitive about everything.

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Here's what I want us to know just in this moment about this gorgeous thing that exists

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in between your ears.

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This is the tool.

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This is something that gets directed.

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This is not a leader by any stretch of the imagination.

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And I'm asking everyone to please give less abdication of your power to this thing.

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That is your mind.

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Use it.

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Use it.

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And where do we lead from?

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To your beautiful point, we lead from here.

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We lead from the heart.

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We lead from the body and we lead from our higher selves that are not here in this physical

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avatar and human form.

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This part of us that is connected, this part of us that is connected to that, which is

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so much bigger than us that like, nobody's going to explain it to you because they can't.

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Like, I believe the day we can really explain consciousness in its entirety is the day we

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implode.

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Like, there's just no, there's no world.

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It's infinite.

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It's literally infinite.

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And it's vast and it's massive and there's so many things to learn about it.

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So just being able to recognize, okay, wait a second, right?

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So in real service of all of you beautiful listeners with us, this mind, allow it to

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take the back seat.

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Stop letting it lead because it's creating an interference in your ability to reopen

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your heart because even though you are spot on women, right?

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We are heart centered, right?

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One of the things I observe that I work on with every woman that trusts us to guide her

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is actually unarmoring it because although it is natural and it is our gift and that's

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the guidance system, what has happened to and for us over space and time has created

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so much protection and we armor the heart and we arm it a little more and we arm it

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a little more and a little more.

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And then before you know it, you've disassociated from your heart and from your body and now

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you're living all in your head and it is a very, very challenging place to live.

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And it is a place that you cannot be the creator from.

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If you're living in your head, you're automatically living in a state of survival and you cannot

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be in a state of creation while you're in a state of survival.

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Yeah, so I'm learning how, I mean, this is a lifelong journey.

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It started for me 30 years ago, but I'm actually very tangibly learning like that distinctive

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difference between being in your head.

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Like when you're in your head, it's very much of a protective mechanism, but I'm learning

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to drop into my heart.

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And guess what happens?

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My first center is not what's protected, but what's the experience.

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And that's a much richer place to live.

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That's the value.

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And so many guys are afraid of dropping into their heart.

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I was one of them because if I do, I'm not going to be able to do this thing up here,

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which is be the protector, be the, even the savior complex.

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Like men like to take care of women and there's so much more power in the heart.

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There's so much more power in the both end.

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Like I don't have to live up here constantly.

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I can drop in because here I can connect.

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Here's the thing that I think in terms of relationships I'm learning is when you drop

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into the heart and I start connecting to my wife at the heart level, it's an entirely

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different conversation, an entirely different conversation.

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I'm having the same experience with my husband as he also is on his journey now as well.

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And it's a different conversation because it's not an actual like conversation in the

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way we usually think about it's a felt sense.

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It's emotion.

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It is actual connection, not existing in a house together, talking about logistics,

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coexisting ships in the night.

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It is vulnerability.

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It is like the emotion is here because the heart is so sad.

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That's exactly the opposite of protection though.

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That protective mechanism is what we're bent towards.

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And I think men want to live in that space.

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It's just we're so rooted in this masculine dynamic that won't even allow us.

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Like I, my mentor that I started working with three, uh, 30 years ago,

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he used to speak to men.

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He wrote a book called, uh, healing the masculine soul back in the 1980s.

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And it was a best seller and he would go around to conferences and he would say,

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how many of you men are comfortable with your heart?

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Like how many of you know your dad loved you on average?

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One man would raise their hand.

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If you go into a woman's room and say, how many of your moms loved you,

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you get a hundred women raise their hand.

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It's a very different dynamic.

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And I think as we shift this age, men need to start learning not to take the back seat.

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Cause I don't think what happens is it just flips like women take over.

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I think it's this women are much more both and than men are.

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And what the future looks like is not the present reversed, but much more holistic

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together because the women don't want to lead from where there are a few options.

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When you go so hyper masculine, but I think the vast majority of women want a co-partnership.

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Like let's do it together.

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Not I'm going to rule you.

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What would you say to that?

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Oh, this is massive.

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I'm feeling so many beautiful emotions right now.

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I'm in the midst of teaching our first ever mind magic group for men right now.

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Nice.

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We are in week three.

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And what you're saying is exactly why I was like, wait a second,

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you know, the consciousness revolution is here.

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We had our huge gala and in honor of that, I said for the first time ever in five years

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of me serving our work, my body is saying men.

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And I'm in the middle of that and I'm watching these men

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open and be vulnerable and beautiful and break that drip process.

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That's why I don't want to leave it in here.

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Cause what you were describing was the drip process.

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When you sit in a space of men and one of 50, let's say says, I knew my father loved me.

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That's a result of the drip process.

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And I talk about that in my book, Worthy Human, because what happens is until we're

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now here in the consciousness revolution, right in the day and age we live in,

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where we're both here having this dialogue, our great, great grandfathers dripped on our

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great grandfathers who dripped on the grandfathers who dripped on the fathers who dripped on you and

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the men that are here right now. And that drip process was unconscious, unintentional.

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It came from such a depth of limitation that was unconscious limitation, such great depression,

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such actual hardship, such need for keep your head down.

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Don't feel it. Be the provider, be the hunter.

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They didn't have that choice. That's what was, we don't live in that world.

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We are literally having a stunning conversation articulating what evolution is,

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what shifting paradigms is, and it happens at the level of the individuals.

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So it spreads to the group that spreads to the collective.

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So of course that one hand goes up, but then we have that seminar today.

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And out of the 50, we'll have 25 that say, I knew my father loved me.

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And the goal is, is that the next seminar in this 50 example, all 50 say, I knew my father loved me.

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Right? So it's so stunning what you're saying, because everyone, as we said in the beginning,

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has this capacity. It lives within us because we all are energy and we all have a similar biological

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wiring system to be available to open our hearts and to dramatically shift these paradigms of

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limitation, these identities, it's like a cage of your identity, and shift our relationship with fear

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and perception of, well, then what will people think or how will this go?

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in general, because we can have beautiful conversations and the heart could start to open,

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but if our nervous system doesn't feel safe, allowing that heart to open, it will become

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protective again, and it will push us back into the behaviors that kept the heart protected.

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Well, I think that's what most, and I can't speak for women. I can speak for my daughters,

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maybe a little bit, but I can speak for men in terms of, most men avoid the heart because

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it's a black hole. Like it feels like a black hole and they miss out on the rich experience.

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We like living in our mind because it's easier, I think, for men to live in fight or flight mode

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than it is to be open, to stay open, because then we can get hurt because we suck it.

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And that was the dive for me is I've been on this journey for 30 years trying to dive into my heart.

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And the funny thing is, is that I feel like I'm just consciously understanding what it means

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to be here. I was walking my dog every night. I walk my dog and that's my hour of real

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intense dropping into my heart and trying to be, it's what I say, I go visit the unified field.

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Like, what is it like to sit in a space of love continuously for an hour for myself and just

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live and enjoy? And it creates this rich experience. But what I'm noticing is that

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a week ago, I was walking my dog and all of a sudden I had this very conscious experience of

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drop. And I'm living completely from here. And I go, okay, I get why guys freak out because

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here it's all experience. It's rich, it's colorful, it's beautiful, it's worthy, it's dynamic.

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That freaks me out. And I wanted so badly to go right back up into my head and it was hard to stay

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there. But that's where the rich human experience is. And I think that's what most guys miss that

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women have in spades is there's that rich relational dynamic that comes from living down here

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where you can connect to people because you're connecting at an energetic level that is much

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more powerful than this cranium thing we have up here.

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Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And this is so good because ultimately, right, we're living in the

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matrix. That's this beautiful show we're on, right? So the matrix is this lack, fear and

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separation perpetuation, right? In this low level third dimension of consciousness. And in that lack,

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fear and separation not only have most beings, but we're talking about men right now,

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mastered the adaptive behavior of control. Because control is like optimal safety. It's a lie,

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nonetheless, but it feels… It is a lie.

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Yes, it is a lie, but it feels true. And I really appreciate that because even for me as a gender

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woman, a woman as my gender, my adaptive behavior was control, right? And I used to believe that I

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had to control everything to be loved. And I was super masculine. And I had a lot of trauma. And

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I had to keep my head down and just don't feel, don't feel, don't feel because you're not

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feeling, don't feel, don't feel because you got shit to do. Push through, right? So to recognize

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what you're saying and the beauty of your experience, this is why it's so beautiful to

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recognize how to work with your nervous system as a primary ability to open your heart and elevate

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your consciousness and your highest self because it feels scary, like you said, to go from here

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into your body simply because when you're in your body and you're in your heart, it's calling for

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a level of trust that feels so unfamiliar to you that instantly your system's like, and let's go

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back up here and control that because we know it, we know how to do it, we have the playbook for it.

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So it feels so much safer, and I put in air quotes, but it's not. It's just because

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you haven't given your system enough experience in that coherence, in that trust.

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Tell me what's coming through because you're driving. No, totally. I am completely on board

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with you because that is the journey. And again, this is not just masculine. Every human being

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fights both and stories, but it's, here's what I've learned from the neuroscience is your amygdala

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is exactly like AI. It's only what's programmed, and it dominates you when you're in Delta Brain,

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when you're in that frequency, you're just fixed, you're stuck, and your brain can't learn where

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all the rich experience that transforms your amygdala is down here. So in order to make that

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journey, you have to drop in because this provides the experience that reframes what the amygdala is

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fighting against. If you never go down there, you never get that experience.

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A thousand percent, right? And that's why it's all of the work that we do and that I'm sure you've

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been doing takes you below your beta and your high beta into your alpha and your theta and your

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Delta waves. And the thing about your amygdala, so your thalamus is what first screens how emergent

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this moment is to then send that signal to your amygdala like this is not that big of a deal or

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you're about to die. So to tie back in that nervous system component, the essentialism

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is because the more flexible your nervous system becomes, the better of a read it gives your

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thalamus so that not everything is going to kill you, right? Says your amygdala, right? So it's

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just so beautiful. And this is also why I love doing this work and having conversations like this,

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because it's simply allowing listeners, audiences, communities to understand this whole, like how does

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this whole thing work? You know what I'm saying? Like a base level, how do you human better? How do

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you energy better? How do you, what do you, which levers do you get to pull? Understanding how you

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became who you are, understanding your program, understanding how to unbecome it. So you could

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understand how to become the next level of yourself. And it is so exciting to me and what we need to be

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bringing forth in every environment and every corporation and every academic institution,

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not like who needs physics unless you're going to be a scientist, who needs like, you know, all of

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these other grades that were measured on that keep us in this limitation. We need this education.

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Absolutely. So let me shift gears a little bit because you, we've talked a lot about the masculine

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and feminine. I want to go back to you. Where did this journey begin where you sort of found this

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purpose in your life? Cause you're, you're completely bought in. You've organized your entire

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life around this process. Where did that start?

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It's well, it started started when I recognized the depth of my work. And I was like,

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I recognize the depth of my worth wounds and my worth issues, which illuminated when I became a

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single mother, when my daughter was eight months old, we need to sit on that math, like just

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happened. And now I'm a single mother and I'm like, what the hell, whose life is this? Right. And I

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had a beautiful dark night of the soul and recognize that I arrived in that position because I was

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living in such victimhood. I was living in such, let me squeeze as many round holes into square pegs

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as I possibly can. Let me ignore red flags because somewhere in my belief structure, I didn't believe

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I was deserve into more or I was capable of more. And even in that, and this is important listeners,

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even in that moment, there was still something deeper underneath that, that knew who I was.

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Everything that was sitting on top of it was eclipsing it. So that was like the little,

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you know, the igniter that you put in the grill before you, it was just like a little fluid that

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got put there. Right. And then over time and space, I kind of like, and was aware, but ignored it a

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bit, recreated my life all in the masculine. Like I got it done. I got there. So that's the interesting

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thing too, that I want to bring to light. You can create success in the masculine. That's not what

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we're saying. Like I, you know, I brought up my daughter. I ended up being a VP of human resources.

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I bought my own house. I had a car, like all the things, right. And externally it was like, damn

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Tracy, you did it, but I didn't feel it. I didn't feel it. My heart wasn't open. It was literally

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like head down, go, go, go. Right. So then while I was, go ahead, please interject.

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No, I want to interject there really quick is I think the perfect definition of that. I just

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finished Elon Musk's biography and the Elon Musk is a perfect example of the hyper masculine that

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Elon was very comfortable basically saying, we're going to net, we're going to work 19 hour days for

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the next six months. Who's on the train. If you wanted to work for his company, it was like this

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head down, zero connection to his heart. You end up creating fantastic things. Tesla is an amazing

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company, but it comes at a great cost. And I think that's the, that's, that's the, that's what it

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reminded me of you're talking about is that that survival state works. It works to create even great

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things in business, but at the end of the day, there's a huge wake that's left behind that.

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Huge way. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, so much. I'm like, where do we go next?

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And I know we'll go back to my story, but huge wake. And this is also where I'm going to go.

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And this is also where the consciousness revolution comes in and the world changing

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and the new world we're building because we are learning to prioritize how we feel.

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We are learning to redefine success by the measure of how many hours of the day am I spending feeling

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the way that I want to feel because that's an effect, a success measure in the new world.

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Right. So it's the, your example is so beautiful. And that's where it comes to choice. You can

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choose. You can absolutely live in your state of survival and you can accumulate successful things.

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And it's also why so many beautiful people and some clients come to me this way too.

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I did it. I nailed it. I've got, I sold the business for millions and I, you know, I got

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married and all these things happen. And why is it that I feel nothing? Right. And, and why,

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why am I still asking if there's more? Because when we're raised in the matrix of everything

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lives outside of you and you are driven everything externally, then you perceive that the outside is

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what defines the inside. So if I keep hitting it, if I keep nailing it, corner office, Maserati,

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big house, gorgeous spouse, great kids, give me a dog, you know, give me a grease vacation,

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all these things, then we have been fed the total bullshit lie that that's when you're going to feel

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like amazing and your heart's going to open, but it's not. It's only actually further cementing

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the armor that you've created. Right. So, and is it an easy journey? Absolutely not to open your

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heart. Is it a worthwhile journey? The most worthy journey of your life period, end of story. Because

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when you get to your death bed, which is the only truth that there is, you're never going to look

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back and regret. I got back into my heart, never, ever, ever. So I'll say that. So back to the story.

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So I end up in that position, VP of HR, I'm sitting in that role for about 12 years, and my soul

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starts yelling at me like, what are you doing? This is not it. You have so much more to give that

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kind of feeling and vibe. And at first it was like, no, I'm going to ignore it. Because I was neck

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up and I was super masculine. I was like, nope, I got it. Here we are. And I'm a VP of HR. Like,

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isn't this it? Isn't this it, Jonathan? Isn't this what we're supposed to want? I followed all of

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the order of operations. And then I finally, after two years of being paralyzed by fear,

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listened to that call. And I took the leap into human growth and potential. And when I found

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spirituality, human growth and potential, ascension, it was like a wormhole. I went into

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this other world and I was like, what is this land? And I was instantly drawn to it.

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What happened that kind of catapulted you towards that? Was it the dissonance that kind of pushed

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you out? Or was there a moment? Yes. It was the dissonance. It was this like,

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this is fine. What I'm imagining is there's a lot of people who are at that space right now. What

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would you say to them? Please, please, please trust your intuition. Please, please, please trust.

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Then I have to listen to my heart. I know. God damn it. It's so complex. Right. But yeah,

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uh-huh. That's the whole point. And that's why once you awaken, you can never go back to sleep.

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Right. And that's why it's a journey. You're choosing your actual, let me say this too,

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your actual purpose, everyone's, your actual purpose, all of our purpose as spiritual,

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energetic beings in this human form experience is to tap in, to heal, to grow and to ascend.

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That is your purpose, your passion, totally different story. You know, what you monetize,

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your calling, all different. Your purpose as a spiritual, energetic being, having human

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experience is to go within and untether and ascend, period. And some of us have that wake-up call

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initially through a career lens because we followed that order of operations. And then we land

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in these quote jobs or careers. And then you're like, am I going to literally rot away and do

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this for the next 40 years of my life and feel the way that I'm feeling?

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Well, you can if you don't listen to your heart. That's where most men are stuck. And we just wait

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till we're about 55 to have a midlife crisis. And then we go cheat on our wives and buy the second

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car, the roadster, whatever it is. Cause we think, guess what? We're trying to feel something. That's

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why men cheat is they want to feel something. Cause they've been stuck in this mode for,

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30 years or whatever. Yes. And fun facts from a highly conscious lens. What we know is the midlife

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crisis isn't the midlife crisis, but isn't it convenient that our society put a gorgeous label

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on it? And because everyone just drinks the Kool-Aid with no autonomy and no questioning,

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it just becomes midlife crisis. You smack a label on it. You probably go get some Xanax and then you

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ride it out for the rest of your life. Right. Come on everybody. Like, come on. But you didn't do

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that. It's so insane. Well, I listened at after two years of being paralyzed by fear. And I think

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this is very serving to your listeners because it wasn't like, I have a calling. Let's frolic

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into this and let's just do it. Right. Not at all. It was on Monday. It was like in my head,

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I'm doing this. I know I'm meant for more. I hear you body, we're going to do this. And I started

433
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researching this whole human growth world and found a coaching school. And then on Wednesday,

434
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it was like, Nope, sit down. Who do you think you are? This isn't going to work. Are you nuts?

435
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What are everybody going to think? And I gas break. I played that dance for two entire actual fiscal

436
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:12,240
years. Okay. And are you still in your role in HR? Yes. Yes. I am like fighting the calling. I am

437
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:19,600
fighting the call. And it was one evening on a, my husband and I were on, cause I got married when

438
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my daughter was five. Sorry. And I was sitting on a balcony overlooking a beach and it was dark and

439
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he was inside and I was sitting by myself. And I was like, Oh, I'm going to go to the gym. And I

440
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was sitting by myself and kind of like the moment you described when you were walking your dog.

441
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And my mind was totally off because I was just sitting and listening to the waves and seeing an

442
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:51,040
occasional like white cap in the darkness. And it was so clear. It came from like up here. And it

443
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:59,680
came from my heart. You're not getting out alive and you can't not go for this. You have you,

444
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,800
like the universe was tapping me. You're here to make a dent in the world and you got to get

445
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:11,520
out of here to do it. And it was the first time that instead of then going back in my head,

446
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,720
because the mind is untrustworthy and the mind is here to keep you the same. And the mind is

447
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:24,240
going to feed you thoughts from fear, ego, and past experience. The mind is never going to

448
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:30,720
consistently be like, Yes, get it amazing. Right. So it's the first time I was so connected to that

449
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:37,920
heart and that higher self her as soon as I felt that clarity of message. I walked inside, literally

450
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,760
my husband was coming to the balcony to sit with me. I was like, I'll be right back. Don't even talk

451
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:48,560
to me. Walked inside and messaged the admissions director from that coaching school that was so

452
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:54,240
patient with me for two years. And I said, take my money, put me in the next cohort. Just take it now.

453
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,280
And that was it. And then four months later, manifested a layoff from that corporate job.

454
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So I didn't have to deal with that because here's the thing about the universe.

455
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When you move, I move, says the universe. And it saw me move and it saw me trust and it saw me

456
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:16,160
better myself. And it said, I'm going to clear the way. So I'm going to get rid of this job.

457
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And I'm going to give you a runway. And that is literally how I have created everything I've

458
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:28,000
created up until this point, just forward moving total trust relationship with greater intelligence.

459
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And for anyone listening, it could be God, it could be source, whatever you call it. I don't care.

460
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,480
It's the acknowledgement that there's something so much bigger than us here. And when we trust it,

461
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:50,960
it gets so much easier and so much more fun. That's what I try. And it's hard to communicate

462
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:57,200
that space that it's actually safe when you get there. But that's part of the hardest thing.

463
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,080
It's hard to convince someone who's living in their fight or flight mode. They're in total

464
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:07,520
survival mode. That is like, yeah, that's a really good idea because they're strictly up here. And

465
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,320
what they miss is the whole picture includes this. And then, cause that's where I think men can get

466
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:18,800
stuck in the picture of it. Cause we want the mind wants really tangible things. But if you're not

467
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:24,320
connected to your heart, you're not going to feel the feeling that encompasses that journey.

468
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:31,920
And that's going to be the catapult. And you found that you tapped into that. What made you then

469
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:38,320
want to help other people? Cause that's really your big frame is you like helping other people.

470
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:48,720
What drew you to that? That was immediate. That was, you know, it was the helping of other people

471
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:55,040
that really opened my own Ascension journey because I believe it's my responsibility to be

472
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the proof first, because to your point, right? In order to do what we're doing here, it's our

473
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:10,640
responsibility as leaders and guides, mentors, healers to create the proof and the evidence

474
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that's going to empower the shift of belief that needs to occur for someone to take a dip in the

475
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,000
pool. Right? So yeah, we have to show them. Yes, we have to show it. We have to, because even,

476
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,840
and here's the thing about the depth and we know this and we're seeing it all over the world in

477
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:35,920
different depths and measures. Belief is, feels impenetrable. Even if you don't believe in pens,

478
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and I held this pen and I said, this is a pen, look, it's a pen. There is still a part of your

479
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belief structure and your self-protection, which comes out of skepticism that goes, I don't believe

480
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:53,920
in pens. That's not a pen, even when I'm holding a pen in your face. So it's really important that

481
00:38:53,920 --> 00:39:00,080
we have indisputable evidence because little by little that allows people to go, okay, wait a

482
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,880
second. Right? It's like the very famous Roger Bannister 1954, I believe was the year when he

483
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finally broke the four minute mile. And prior to that, no belief structure, every, every,

484
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,600
you guys, this is how crazy it is and how awesome technology and advancement and evolution is.

485
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:24,960
Every doctor in the fifties believed in, don't run, if you run too fast, if you run too hard,

486
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,880
your heart will explode. It's not good for you. It's insane. Right? And here comes Roger going,

487
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I'm going to choose not to believe that. And he breaks this famous four minute mile, right? After

488
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,640
no one trying it. And then what happens the day after the day after the day after someone else

489
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is running in at 354 at 352 at 351. That is, that is he was proof. He was the example. It was

490
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indisputable. Look, that guy just beat the four minute mile and his heart didn't explode. He didn't

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die. What's possible for me. And that's why I also am very, I'm emphatic about if you're going to lead

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this work, if you're going to coach or guide, even in the women that come to me, and now we're

493
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expanding to everyone who wants to get certified, embodiments the game. I'm telling them all the

494
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,600
time, you're the billboard. Don't ask me for an external strategic strategy on how to fill your

495
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:25,440
program. If you are not the embodiment of what you are teaching, right? It's a non-starter. So

496
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was that catalyst. It was me wanting to help others because I knew I had a gift. Like,

497
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it's not me that's saying this. I firmly believe that I'm the vessel that was tapped

498
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to share it. And that's how I ended up starting to help people and change in the world.

499
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Let me ask you a question because this came up and it's sort of the zeitgeist over the last year is

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what effect do you think Barbie had? The Barbie movie became a conversation, sort of this,

501
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:06,560
almost this ushering in from your perspective, what effect did that movie have on culture?

502
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,960
I loved that movie. But why from your perspective? I'll tell you why.

503
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From my perspective. Why didn't everybody love that movie?

504
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Because in a levity based, and this is the important part, okay, in a kitschy, light, levity

505
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:29,920
based way. And the reason that's important is because the antidote our biology gave us

506
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,880
to open ourselves is levity, playfulness, silliness, kitschiness, curiousity,

507
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:40,320
curiosity. Yeah. So the first part of why it was effective was because it was Barbie. It was light.

508
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:46,480
No one was going in for some intense experience. Right. So right off the bat, right, right, right

509
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off the bat, you're like, oh, okay. And you're open. That openness was critical. And the way it

510
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was done was so beautiful because it in that light way shined a light. It illuminated

511
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what the patriarchy lens and approach has created and what is possible when we come together

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differently, when the feminine and the masculine energies play interplay shift, right. That's why

513
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I think it was so effective because we were open, it was light, and it really, really showed in a

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00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:34,480
digestible way what the patriarchy really is. Well, I think that's so much of historical gender

515
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:39,840
study is on find the right man and find the right woman and together you create the right partners.

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00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:46,800
You complete me kind of conversation. Barbie took a completely different spin and says, no, I'm

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Barbie's going to be, she's already feminine. She's going to discover her masculine. And guess what?

518
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I'm whole because she didn't end up with Ken at the end. That's correct. Yes. And Ken, his point is

519
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to do the same thing that he's way behind the curve. But that was the brilliance of the story

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00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:13,360
is it wasn't Ken rescues Barbie. It was Barbie becomes her own hero. Yes. And that's the

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point. And I think that feels disempowering to core masculine men. It's like, well, what's my purpose?

522
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:28,160
And she was able to say, well, your purpose is to join me because wholeness doesn't reside in me

523
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:34,000
being completed by you. Wholeness comes from me being completed in myself. I have to be comfortable

524
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,040
with myself first and then I become an amazing partner to you. And if we choose to be a partner,

525
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but I don't need you. I work with you. That's the partnership that I think we're waking up to that

526
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:54,000
Barbie really described is this idea that I don't need you, Ken, but I want to be around you and in

527
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,680
relationship with you, but I don't need you. And I think that was a moment because I have four

528
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:05,440
daughters and I think about this conversation all the time of how do I treat my daughter?

529
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To begin with this whole sense of self that you don't need a man. You choose to be in relationship

530
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because there's value in it, but you don't need it. And my daughter said to me, I was with them

531
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a couple of weeks ago down in San Luis Obispo and my daughter has always said to me, dad, I don't

532
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,200
know if I want to get married. I don't know if I need to get married. I'm like, that's awesome.

533
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:37,280
That's okay. It's the convention isn't for you to be the subservient wife. The convention is for you

534
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to be a whole person in yourself because then you become love to the world. I think someone who's

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congruent automatically is going to start loving because that wholeness is going to burst forth

536
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:54,800
with this wonderful fruit called love. And that's what we all want. And you talk a lot about love.

537
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,840
What role does love play in all your teams? What role does love play in all your teams?

538
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Love play in all your teachings. Oh, I want to answer that. And I want to also just

539
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:13,760
acknowledge what you just said, because it was so beautiful. And we are inept to connect with

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anyone else if we are not fully integrated and connected and whole within ourselves.

541
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Anything but that is codependency. And I'm a recovering and unhelpful.

542
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Yeah. Most of us have a percentage of some level of codependency because it's the world in which

543
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we were raised. But that really beautiful acknowledgement, and that's where we're going

544
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:42,160
from a relational standpoint. It becomes, just like you expressed with your wife and I was

545
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,480
saying about my husband and I, it becomes two beautiful individuals that are whole within

546
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:57,440
themselves, choosing to thrive and exist and create and appreciate and intimate in life together.

547
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And that's a whole different level of conversation in the household. That's a whole different

548
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:09,280
vulnerability. That is literally like my daughters are like hashtag couple goals when they see my

549
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:16,400
husband and I, right? Like that's for the universe. That is relational goals. And it's beautiful. So

550
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:22,480
I'd acknowledge that. And the answer to where does love come in, in our work everywhere? More love is

551
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,960
tattooed on my arm. I have much love. Mine is much love.

552
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:32,880
Oh, look at us. The universe knows what it's doing, bringing us together.

553
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,760
Love is everything because love is the truth of what you are.

554
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,920
Yeah. Love is the truth of what we are. We are derived from pure love and pure consciousness

555
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,200
and pure wholeness and oneness. And when you allow yourself to realize, wait a minute,

556
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,320
this isn't something I need to find and then insert in myself, I don't have to try so hard.

557
00:46:54,320 --> 00:47:00,240
The truth of what I am is love. And the only question there is, is then how do I open to more

558
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:05,760
of that truth and how do I unarmor that beautiful heart to allow it? And then from that space,

559
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,640
you don't have to over effort or anything because everything follows and flows when you allow

560
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,720
yourself to beam the truth of the love that you are. It actually becomes that easy and everything

561
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:21,600
in your mind wants to fight against what I'm saying because everything in your program is like,

562
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,440
but no, it's hardship and it's struggle and the struggle is real and you got to do this and you

563
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:34,720
got to work your ass off. No. Open to love. The love of you, the love that is available around you.

564
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:39,840
Imagining this beautiful, invisible like gold beam shooting from your heart to the heart of

565
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,840
every single person around you, whether you know them or not, you do because you're connected.

566
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:50,400
That's not mystical either. Like your energetic field is actually there. I've learned how to

567
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:59,680
control my energy and actually energize a room. And there's almost like this, I can do that kind

568
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:05,920
of moment when you're like, oh shit, you know, because it's like, there's a power to that energy

569
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,160
that if you are tapping into it and harness it, you're not, you're never controlling it,

570
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:16,240
but you're harnessing it for good to impact people in a very positive way. That's when it gets

571
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:21,760
absolutely amazing. Yes. You know what I'm talking about? I see it in you. I know it's, it's, and

572
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,960
that, and that kind of, so it kind of does tell us like a little bit of the beginning of our

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00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,240
conversation, right? That power, right? That feminine power, it's an energy, right? Your

574
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:37,200
feminine energy power, that's when you walk in a room and it's not because you're the loudest,

575
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,560
right? There's something in the way you just energize that room, your heart is so open,

576
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,280
you are grounded, you are standing there, you walked in and you actually shift the resonance,

577
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:55,200
you shift the frequency because you are love and you know it and you know how to harness that power

578
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:02,480
coming right out of this gorgeous and your field, the more coherent you are, the more love you are,

579
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:10,000
the more potent and like, your energetic field is that, that goes out in circumference around

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00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,280
your physical body. That's why when you're somewhere also, someone could walk in and you feel the

581
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,760
way we're talking right now and you're like, yes, I want to be in this room and you can go into

582
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,000
another room and someone walks in and you're like, oh God, why do I feel unsafe and shitty and I

583
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,520
got to go, right? And she doesn't lie. It doesn't lie. Yeah. No, that's one of the things that when

584
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,320
Rich and I started, we wanted to create an energy where people could flourish. These dialogues are

585
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,720
really with, in that energy space, we want to create a space where people can really get really

586
00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:46,000
bright because there's something to the brightness. There's something to this journey that you've been

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00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:54,320
on. Like you, you have enough tangible evidence to overwhelm your amygdala. That's what I think most

588
00:49:54,320 --> 00:50:01,360
men don't have. Women have it in spades because they feel dynamically from it. They're much more

589
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:08,720
emotionally intelligent and I think kind of from the bent, but that's what men miss out on is this

590
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:16,080
rich energy that comes from that when it's in a safe space. Like the dynamic of Ken and Barbie is

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00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:24,640
two whole people coming together only magnify that energy. And that's what's missed is usually it's

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00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:29,440
men like, oh, I can't be subservient. That's what the masculinity says because then I wouldn't be

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able to protect. And the woman says, well, I can't trust you. You can't do that. So they never get

594
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together. But if they come together as two whole people energized with a sense of their dignity,

595
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then it becomes a completely different dynamic. And I think that's what I'm beginning to explore

596
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,000
is what happens when you live in that energy and you start sharing it abundantly. Cause I have

597
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:58,320
enough. I have enough of that energy. I share it wildly. And guess what? The more I share it wildly,

598
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the more that I have. It's like this weird thing, you know, it's like, there's a reason.

599
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:11,120
Well, because it's infinite. Also love is it is. And it literally there, the truth about abundance

600
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is that that's the truth of what you are. And there is an overflow and an overabundance of energy

601
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:23,360
available. And as you give it, you receive it and you get fueled by it. And it's this magnificent,

602
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,960
like energetic snowball. And it's magnificent. And something that you just said too, that was so

603
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:37,680
fabulous and profound. You know, when you have that, the man who doesn't want to allow the woman to,

604
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,760
you know, be more powerful that how you describe that dynamic, the only way when those two do come

605
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,640
together because they do, however, they come together to bond that trauma. They come together

606
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,640
to create an interlocking dependency. And that's what we're moving away from. And the answer to

607
00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:02,800
this then, because in order to become a man who, and this is kind of like this part of the way we

608
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:09,360
teach and to become a woman who is to evolve your identity, right, and that's what has to happen at

609
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:15,520
the core. A man evolving his identity into I love to tell, I'm a man who loves to open to my feminine

610
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:22,000
energy. I'm a man who loves to watch the woman in my life be in their power, right. I'm a man who is

611
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:29,760
whole and understands that I'm always safe. Understanding that is what allows and opens all

612
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:37,360
of the women and men and everyone in your life to rise and be held and in actual fact, that's the

613
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,640
best support you can give. Talk about being a provider. We have to lose our great-grandfather's

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00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:48,560
perspective of providing, and we have to introduce a new paradigm to men of what it means to be the

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00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,600
greatest provider and the greatest supporter in allowing those in your life to shine brighter.

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Here's the thing. The men are afraid that as we shift into the age of Aquarius, the feminine age,

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it's a decidedly feminine age. We're going to lose control. And that's not what you're saying.

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The relationship is you have to deal with your trauma. And trauma is just the moment you decided

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you couldn't handle something and go back. And if you deal with that trauma, you lose. Most people

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can't get to their positive energy because they're so drowning in negative energy. My mom used to

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always call it, my mom was a sexual abuse counselor and she used to always call it a wet blanket that

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we wear most of our lives. And most people don't even know that they have a wet blanket to take

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off. So I want to ask, how do you work with women, because you primarily work with women,

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how do you work with women to help them get over that trauma and work through it? It's getting over

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a sense of I have the capacity and self-control to deal with it finally.

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Yes. So we do it all inside of mind magic. Mind magic is our IP. It's level one. Before you do

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anything with us, you come through mind magic. And the real answer is number one, we teach and

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guide a highly conscious approach to transformation and trauma healing. It is not heavy. You are not

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broken. Nothing needs to be fixed. We don't allow you to play there because that's like trying to

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ascend while you're standing in quicksand. It doesn't work.

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It's focusing on the negative.

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Okay, the negative. You stay in this perpetual, I got to heal it. I'm not going to do it. I'm

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going to heal it. I'm not good enough. That's the lie. We don't even play there. So we're already

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starting at a higher level. The other thing is recognizing that the trauma is the physiological

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response to whatever happened. So it's more about a focus of focusing on the body, doing the somatic

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work that we do, giving your nervous system the love that it needs. It is rarely ever important

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to understand the story of what happened because you don't even remember it accurately anyway.

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Any research on memory will tell you.

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Highly biased. I like that.

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And that at best, at best you're 50% accurate. Go just Google it. Memory research. It's crazy.

641
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It's like, oh, shoot. It's like playing telephone. Every time you recall it, there's just a judge

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difference. And before you know it, it's a whole different story. So that's also why the progression

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of moving away from cognition, cognitive behavioral therapy is so critical because if we do the work

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of your body intentionally and you start to untether and release through emotion and breathwork

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and all these other somatic beautiful things, and at the level of your nervous system, you're doing

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certain drills, then before you know it, your body starts to open and you start to untether from the

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trauma that was there. So that's literally part of how, and that lives all inside of mind magic.

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And then it takes shifting your level of mind and actually rewiring your brain and the way that you

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think so that your cognition doesn't reaffirm the old trauma. Because it all has to work in concert.

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For it to be a complete, I love every modality in everything. And the only actual problem

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I perceive in anything is that it's just incomplete. So it's like you can't do affirmations

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without working with the body because the affirmations won't go past your brainstem

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into your nervous system to actually change anything. So if you look at what you're working on,

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we need the holistic approach. And that's one of the ways that we dive into it.

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Dr. Justin Marchegiani what is magic mind? You mentioned that.

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Dr. Julie Kwan Yeah, mind magic. Yeah.

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Dr. Justin Marchegiani Mind magic.

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Dr. Julie Kwan Yeah, mind magic. Yeah. So mind magic is our methodology that combines spirituality,

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energetics, neuroscience and somatics to evolve your identity. So you are it is a process that we

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have developed of you becoming him or you becoming her. And it is that holistic complete view. It is

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a nine week semester and every week stacks. And it's an embodiment process of untethering from

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who you've been the program, the conditioning, the level of mind, the energetic, all of it,

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and actually embodying the next level version of yourself, who is a man who leads with an open

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heart, who lets other people shine, like we do that kind of work, you create manifestos,

665
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your he manifesto, who are you, how does he feel, how does he spend the hours of his day living,

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we identify emotional addictions, because you cannot exist in your new future if you're

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constantly affirming the emotions of your past. So it's a very thorough identity evolution methodology.

668
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Dr. Justin Marchegiani Well, you really touched on something that I think is very simple is

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most people focus on healing by focusing on the negative. And all you do is reinforce the negative,

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it's very hard to grow focusing on the negative, whereas you're saying no, let's shift and focus

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on the positive. And why does that work better? Dr. Julie Kwan Because wherever you put your focus

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and attention is where you put your energy and it's what you root into. Right. Dr. Justin Marchegiani

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But it's almost like it's like that's not the way it feels. No, you're supposed to solve the problem.

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And that's what men do. Dr. Julie Kwan

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But also, here's what I love about this and high living in the matrix, because that's what the

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matrix tells you. The matrix tells you to be problem focused. Yes. Because if you're problem

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focused, you will then stay in lack, you will then stay in fear, you are then separate from a solution.

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So it really enables the matrix for all of us to keep drinking that Kool-Aid, because then you

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really never change, but you waste thousands of dollars and hours of energy and time. And it's not

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working. And not only because the lens through which you're seeing it with and the approach you're

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taking is, that's why I use quicksand as the analogy. It's like for every step you take out,

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you're back in the quicksand and for every year is back and then just deeper and deeper and deeper.

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And it also feels unnatural because your current belief structure and lens is living through I'm

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not enough. So if I'm over here yelling at you through love and saying, listen to me,

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that's the lie. Stop playing the I'm not enough game. Let's do it. Let's do a healing journey

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from your wholeness. I'm sorry, what? I'm already whole, right?

687
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It's very backwards. It's historically backwards for all of history. You don't solve the problem

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by focusing on the good. You solve the problem by focusing on the bad. And what you're saying is,

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guess what? That doesn't work as well. It doesn't work at all. Because if you also

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recognize what happens in our brains from a neuroscience standpoint, when you have a problem,

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right? And I'm gonna take my pentagon as my problem and you hold your problem and you look

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at your problem, you get very myopic with your problem, right? And then often you can turn around

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and talk to other people about your problem. And now everything in your focus and attention is on

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this problem. What's happening is you're putting yourself into dysregulation because you are myopic

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and you have this problem. Well, when you're dysregulated, your prefrontal cortex is shut off.

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Because if things need- Okay, for our audience.

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Yes, go ahead. Help our audience understand dysregulation.

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Okay, thank you. So in your beautiful autonomic nervous system, you have the simplest way to

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understand it is there's two main states of your nervous system. Dysregulated, which is sympathetic

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stress for general terms. Regulated becomes parasympathetic, grounded, calm, right? So if

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we just simplify it, dysregulated is stress sympathetic. Regulated is parasympathetic and

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calm and flexible. When you are in that dysregulated state, which most of us in this matrix world live

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in, in an acute sense and you don't even realize it, that means that you are in a stress state.

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And that means that your prefrontal cortex, the front of your brain right behind your forehead,

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which is your critical thinker and your decision maker and your ability to identify solutions,

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actually goes offline. It shuts down when you're in dysregulation because the dysregulation in your

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nervous system says, he's not safe right now. So I need to get ready to poise, to pounce. I need to

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run. I need to freeze, right? I need to help this guy survive. He's not trying to innovate or get

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creative about anything right now. So it shuts off. This is a natural wiring and has nothing

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to do with your trauma. It only worsens if you have big T trauma, right? Or little T trauma.

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So to really be able to recognize like, okay, so if I'm in dysregulation, the ability to identify

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solution is impossible. All the solutions, the creativity, the innovations, the potentials,

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the possibilities, like I want you to imagine you're over here looking to the left, over fixated

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on your problem, being myopic, you're dysregulated. And to your right, every solution, every creative

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possibility, every potential is legitimately walking by you like nanananaboo boo, like trying

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to get your attention and you cannot even perceive it because this is where you are.

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Right? So that's, I don't even remember what the origin question was, but that's essentially

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why trying to grow from a problem focus is ineffective because you don't have the most

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important parts of you online to tap into possibility.

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Why do you love this? Because you love it. Why do you love this?

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I love it. I do love it.

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You do.

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I feel so seen. I love it. I could, I, it's like, I have to pause myself in my normal life

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because all I want to do is talk about this all day, all night. I love it so much because number

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one, I'm in such awe of it. I'm in such awe of the fact that when we progress and when we have

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research and when we have technology and we learn new things, we move from a world where we couldn't

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have had this conversation 70 years ago where we believed, all right, you hit 25 years old.

728
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You became who you became. Your brain stops changing. Good luck. Enjoy your life.

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To now knowing we are malleable, our brains change to the day we die. We're not fixed beings.

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We can become something, someone different. We're energetic. Like it's just so exciting.

731
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How do you not want to scream it from the rooftops? Right? So just the, I sit in awe and just like you,

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because I know we're both like obsessive human spiritual potential to read. You want to learn

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in the best way. I say that in the best way. Yeah. Because we're in awe of it. I respect it. I'm like,

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wow, potential is this really incredible thing. So that was, that was the opening, just like the

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awe, you know, what's so interesting is when I was younger, middle school, high school,

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I was the worst student. I skipped class. I didn't care. I, I didn't go to college because

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I didn't believe I was smart enough because I was living in my, I'm not enoughness. And then as soon

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as I grew up and started working on myself and found something I was interested in learning,

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I'm like, oh, I'm one of the smartest people I know. Isn't that interesting? Do you know what I'm

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saying? Because I actually opened to something new. And then after that awe, the reason I love it so

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much is taking that awe, translating it, creating our own methods and methodologies and unique ways

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to teach it that work 100% of the time. Like we've been audited, case studied, then the proof and the

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evidence of the ripple effect, the life changingness of what happens because I got out of my own way

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and I'm showing up to deliver what I know in that awe. And I'm watching women and their marriages

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and their businesses and their leadership and their children are breathing because they're

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watching the modeling and kids are using terms like 5D. What? Like that's why I'm obsessed with it,

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because that is what we're here to do. And I think here's the thing, everybody worries

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:53,440
about the impact of social media, but what social media has done is it's changed the capacity to

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change cultural conversations overnight because you're putting the power of the video in, I think

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the video changed things when it was just text and words and articles that Facebook used to be, but

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like TikTok and Instagram have with Reels and that concept of and shorts at YouTube have changed the

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game. And I think we began to see it with the Me Too movement. I've said this many times is I think

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the Me Too movement couldn't have happened 30 years ago because it was highly public, but it shifted

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the culture conversation in one year, like to such a dramatic level. And I think we tend to focus on

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the negative sides of social media, but it's also creating this empowered space where kids can go,

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there's this whole other world to learn from. And they're starting to, they're starting to really

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01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:50,880
listen to what is that unified field, what is quantum physics? What is it mean to drop into

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01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:55,120
my heart? What does it mean to have coherence? I think Dr. Joe Dispenza has really created a

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language for people that allows them to talk about it. Like we didn't know these things 20 years ago

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in neuroscience and now we do that it's at the seat of our trauma and we actually know all the

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moving parts and we don't have to live like we did yesterday. I want to, you had mentioned one

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thing that I want to touch on is the, oh gosh, the right word was not enough. That was it.

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What do you say to someone who is in the not enough space?

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I understand that that feels real for you right now because it's been your program and you've

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spent decades affirming it and feeling it and living it and behaviors that affirm it and,

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you know, actions in your life. And then you've gained more evidence because you don't realize

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you're living in a self-fulfilling prophecy that then further affirm the not enoughness.

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So what I say to you is number one, there's nothing wrong with you and you're not broken

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and you don't need to be fixed. And if you would just jump on my train for just long enough and

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come to me with an experimenter's mindset just for like a little window of time and imagine that the

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truth is that you are whole. The truth is that you are worthy because that is inherent in your

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birthright. If you are here alive and listening right now, you are whole, you are worthy, you

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are enough and there is nothing you ever, ever, ever need to do to earn that. And everything in

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your mind that wants to fight against what I'm saying is your system feeling unsafe because it

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:35,280
feels so unfamiliar to not have to effort for your value. It's going to call you out of living in

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the matrix and living beyond the matrix in the truth of your energetics and your wholeness and

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your oneness. And that's the journey, right? Kind of back to that wholeness and starting to play

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even as simple with what would change in your day today if you believed and operated from your

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inherent worth and wholeness. Won't change. And you're going to come up with answers like,

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oh, my body just relaxed. Why? I feel expansive. Well, I guess I'd have that conversation.

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I'd probably leave that job, probably finally publish my website. All of these little things

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start to happen. And then you start to realize how much energy and hours of the day

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01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:29,680
you have ended up unconsciously wasting on trying to affirm your worth. And then you're

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going to get all that time back and all that energy back so we can actually do the real stuff

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01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:39,760
that you're here to do. That's what I say in probably a third of my reels. If you let go of

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the bullshit, you are suddenly realize you have a lot of energy, but you've been using it just to

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stash it down. And it's like, just let go of that and you'll have all this new energy that you

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didn't even know was there. Because that's what happens. Your body's meant to be energetic,

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but when you focus on the negative, guess what? You're only going to create negative energy and

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you're going to suffer. And I think that's the beauty of it is, is that what you teach women

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,880
in your conferences is sort of how to begin stepping into that space? Because I think it's

792
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a very powerful somatic practice. Yeah. I mean, it's really, I teach all of this,

793
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and that's always the interesting thing for us as we attempt to explain what we do.

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You know, it's the entirety of the becoming process, which is part unbecoming and part becoming.

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And it's about heart opening and it's about shifting your relationship with fear. And it's

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about changing at the level of your mind, actually rewiring the neuro tags. It's about

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01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,600
reconnection to your body and nervous system. It's about dramatically shifting your relationship

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with emotion. It's about paying attention to the words that leave your lips. It's about tapping

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into the goddess that you are so that you can stop functioning and all the overisms of those

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adaptive behaviors and those trauma responses. It's all of that. It ultimately lands in, please

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start treating yourself like the energy that you are. Right. And your, your productivity is not,

802
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:08,560
let's keep, let's not focus on the negative. Let's start replacing them with positive actions and

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01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:14,880
positive opportunities. It's how do we move towards the positive? Cause that's where all the life

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really is. It is where life is. And rather than even using positive, we use language like aligned

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and empowered because there's so much stigma around positive, negative. One of the things we do at the

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core of the work is we get you out of judgment completely. We teach you how to cultivate what we

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:38,080
call, uh, your non-judgmental observer, right? Your non-judgmental observer. We want you to be void of

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all judgment because that's judgment is one of the core things that keeps you rooted from feeling

809
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your feelings. And if I, one of the things in my core, my inherent talent, like my gifts from

810
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my guides, I am an emotional healer. There isn't a woman 10 minutes, we're crying and I'm loving it.

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And that's my goal. Pulling it's energy. It's the release. Yeah. Yes. Pulling that energy and motion

812
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out of your body and out of your congested system so that you can shine brighter in your field,

813
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can be more potent and your system can naturally regulate. So it's all of that together. And then

814
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it's, and it's, and it's not an ignorance or an avoidance of the past. We have to integrate those

815
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parts of you, you at three years old, when something happened, you at seven years old,

816
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you at 12 years old, you at 20 years old, like a Russian nesting doll into the woman you are today

817
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in full love and full, you know, acceptance so that you are functioning off the truth so that those

818
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younger parts and versions of you are not running the show because please don't kid yourself. If you

819
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don't heal through, then you might look like you're 48 running your life, but you're not

820
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the seven year old in you that is still wounded from what your father said to you. And the,

821
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the, the, the disempowering meaning that your natural subconscious made at that age is what's

822
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running the show. Right? So it's really important that we, we, we do that work. We just, we don't do

823
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it in a heavy, Oh my God, I can't believe this. What happened to me? It's like, no, it's data.

824
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High consciousness. Yeah. Right. High consciousness says, show me the data. Ooh, isn't that interesting?

825
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Whoa. That's what was under there. Give me more. Give me more. Because in awareness, I can change

826
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without awareness. It's over. Yeah. What does integration for our audience, what does integration

827
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mean? Cause I think that's a really important concept of, of alchemizing our pain into something

828
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valuable. What does that mean for you? Yeah. So integration means to, uh, acknowledge and, uh,

829
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speak truth to, which becomes part of the healing process. So that part of you that maybe you

830
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disassociated from, cause it was really painful, uh, can come back and integrate into who you are,

831
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can merge into you because you had that moment where you acknowledged and shared with that part

832
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of you or that age of you, whatever resonates, um, the truth, right? The truth that that moment where

833
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in one of my lived experiences, uh, I was around six years old and I was on the playground and I

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walked towards a group of girls that I thought would be my friends and they're all together.

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And I walked over to play with them. And when I got in front of them, they turned around and walked

836
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away. And that was a lot as you were six, I was six or six or seven. That's brutal. Brutal. And

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in that moment, because before you're seven and a half, eight years old, you're all subconscious

838
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mind and you only can internalize it about something about you. So that affirmed a wound

839
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that are already began of, well, clearly I'm clearly, I'm not enough and clearly it's not

840
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safe to be in relationship with girls. So going back to acknowledge that. So, so, so then, you

841
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know, I became the girl in high school that had all best friends that were guys. I still had a

842
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small collection of girls that I was like, okay, I trust you enough to be friends with me, but my

843
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masses were dudes. Who is your best friend? Oh, I have several now. No, but at that time,

844
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in that period of time, was it a guy or a, or a guy's guys that are still my best friends to this

845
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day. And all my girlfriends be like, why do you have so many guy friends? But I couldn't answer

846
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it then. I couldn't answer it then because I didn't know it was in my, I didn't know it was

847
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in my psyche. I wasn't into it. It was, you know, it was whatever, you know, was aware, aware to it.

848
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So it was like in that moment when I recognized that and I went back to it and then I acknowledged

849
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it. And I spent some time with that part of myself that felt dark and felt unloved and that version

850
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of me and told her the truth and embedded the truth for you. Oh, the truth was, what did you

851
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say to your six year old self? Oh, sweet girl. You are so lovable and you are so amazing.

852
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You're not supposed to be liked by everyone. You get to be your own approval and the friends that

853
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are yours will always be yours because that's the truth. The truth wasn't what I created in that

854
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moment, which is you are not enough. Clearly look, you don't matter. And if you were enough,

855
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then clearly those girls would want to play with you. Yeah. And the problem, the problem with the

856
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victim mindset is the victim mindset will never let you be the hero because the hero comes in and

857
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says, no, you are enough. Let's rewrite the story that we, we picked up at six years old because

858
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we've been, and that's what most people don't realize is when you're six years old, you have

859
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zero prefrontal cortex. You cannot cognitively deal with it. It's all feelings and you're just

860
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going with it. So it lives in your body for 30, 40 years and they go, oh no, I don't need to deal

861
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with that. Yeah. No, it's still there. It's still in your body and your body's operating from a

862
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limiting belief that you created when you're six years old. The reason to go back and do trauma

863
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:14,640
work is not so it's cool. It's so you can be released. And that's the difference. The something

864
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you said that I absolutely love cause it took me a very long time to realize is we don't heal to

865
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become whole. We heal to recognize we are already whole. That's what my mom helped me realize is you

866
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take off the wet stinking blanket. What's underneath is the real you. And guess what? You've been whole

867
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the whole time. You just haven't been able to see it. Yeah. It's like just a moment of amnesia. Like

868
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let's bring you back to the truth. You know, and that releases you from having to accomplish

869
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:48,640
anything. You don't have to become someone you already are. Yeah. I love that journey. The way

870
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:57,040
you're creating this for women and even men, it sounds like it's this idea that there's a whole,

871
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:03,200
another way of living when you get out of your head and you get out of the trauma state. Cause

872
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:09,440
the trauma state is very real. I like last year I was working with a coach and I realized I had been,

873
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so I'm on my second marriage, but my, I was divorced 10 years ago and I realized I had still

874
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:20,480
been living in survival mode from that divorce. And I had all of these plates that I was spinning,

875
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trying to keep life. Cause I became very codependent solving everybody else's problem

876
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:31,680
and ignoring my own. And I realized that's really detrimental 10 years after the fact,

877
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,640
like it's okay to be protective in the moment divorce happened, but if you carry it for 10 years,

878
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:42,480
it destroys your life. And I realized so many people want the healing that you're talking about.

879
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They just don't know how to get there. Yeah. And, um, it feels scary. Yes. And,

880
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and my Ted, my Ted talks on fear partly for this reason. It feels scary and, and shifting your

881
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,240
relationship with fear is something that has to happen for you to be able to show up for yourself,

882
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:08,400
right. And really, really, um, recognize the protective nature, right. Of the fear that

883
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:13,760
you're feeling and fear is not a stop sign. It's an indication of where we need to lean in and

884
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where we need to show up for ourselves. Um, and, and it's a beautiful, beautiful thing. And something

885
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I want to touch on that you said, you know, so when you, you have that experience and then you

886
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go back to your head, you were saying, right. So the occurrence happens and, and, and if it impacted

887
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:35,280
you physiologically, it becomes trauma stored in your body. And then you go back up into your head.

888
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And the reason why you think you're okay, isn't because you're okay. It's because you disassociated

889
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from your body. So you don't have to feel it. So you live from your neck up and you call that life.

890
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:57,520
Yep. And it's not. Yep. Yeah. Tracy, you've been absolutely amazing. We got to do this again.

891
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I know, I know. I would love to do this again with you. So, um, how, how do our, how do our

892
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:08,240
listeners find you? Yeah. So the best place to go Instagram, we are super active on that. It's at

893
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:16,160
the lit factor and it's L I T T. So the lit factor and for all of the women listening, the school of

894
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:22,160
becoming.com, uh, is an amazing place to hang out, incredible library and other things to dive into.

895
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:28,480
Give me a quick summary of that, that our listeners can engage in. Like what does that path look like?

896
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:33,920
Yeah. If they were to be interested in that. I love it. The school of becoming.com, um, is a new

897
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institution of higher consciousness and intentional evolution for modern trailblazing women. And we

898
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have a gorgeous library. Come in, create a free account and you can like mark things and as you

899
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:50,800
want to read them, you take our ascension assessment, which literally shows you kind of where you are on

900
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:56,720
your ascension journey. And then we deliver you curated library content to support what level

901
01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:01,440
you're at. So then you get like a read and a watch and a listen based on your results. Um, and that

902
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:07,280
allows you to just kind of start your own intentional evolution. And then our core curriculum starts with

903
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:13,360
mind magic. So we run semesters, like a school of mind magic. It's nine weeks long. Our next semester

904
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will be winter, which will start, uh, I think it's end of January, beginning of February.

905
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And that's nine weeks. And that's where we begin and you evolve your identity. And then you have

906
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different levels of choices inside the school from there. So here's a bigger question that I know

907
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:33,280
everybody who's in the coaching space asks, what is the, but I want to ask you, cause I think your

908
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program sounds like it's completely worth it. And I say that because I'm reading your energy, not your

909
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:46,320
like your, your desire to help people to me is off the charts. I love that. What would you say is the

910
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reason to make the investment in yourself to participate in that program? Because it requires

911
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an investment. Yeah, because you're the cause of the effect. You're the common denominator, right?

912
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Everything is coming out of you. And of all the investments you make in life, uh, the thing that's

913
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always going to deliver you the biggest ROI is anything where you invest in the asset that is you

914
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because when we work on you, we change the way you hear, the way you think, the lens through which

915
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you see the world, which then automatically shifts everything else around you. That's what happens.

916
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That's a science. It's a variable. If you're the variable that's generating everything in proximity

917
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to you and we go up and we change that variable, everything in your life, your business, your money,

918
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your relationships, your intimacy, your parenthood changes in relationship to you changing. So just

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make it easy. Stop investing in everything outside of yourself and make the singular investment

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inside yourself. And you'll be like, what, why didn't I do this 30 years ago? But it doesn't show

921
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up until you make that investment. A thousand percent. That's the hard part. Yes. And that's why

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I want to encourage our listeners, make the investment in yourself to participate in what

923
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:02,720
Tracy's doing because I haven't seen a better coach who has a bigger heart. Um, I love your work. I

924
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:07,520
love what you're doing to help people. I loved your Ted talk because you're basically saying, we need

925
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:13,840
a new paradigm. We really do. We need a new paradigm and shift into it. We, we like, let's not

926
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play in this old playground. Let's create something new. And I ask, I, I love what you're doing. Um,

927
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:26,400
it's very powerful and I know you're going to change a ton of lives. So Tracy, thank you so much

928
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for joining us. This has been absolutely fantastic. Thank you so much. I enjoyed every second. I could

929
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,200
sit here and talk to you for hours and hours and hours. And I'm excited to see all the things.

930
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:40,480
We're going to come back and do this again. There's also something else. I can sense it. There's

931
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something else floating around. So I'm just going to say it now for all the listeners, because you're

932
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,040
going to want to pay attention to Jonathan and I, because there's some other stuff that's going to

933
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come out of this creation. So we'll keep you posted, but I love it. And thank you for having me and

934
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:57,680
your generosity and your knowledge base and the way you hold space and your energy and your

935
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:07,040
vulnerability. You are a magnificent model. Thank you for you are a magnificent model, especially,

936
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you know, we share daughters. You are a magnificent model for young women. Your daughters are so lucky.

937
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You are a magnificent model for men who might be a little bit afraid or unaware of what's possible.

938
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So please keep doing everything you're doing because the impact is real.

939
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:28,960
Thank you. I appreciate that very much. I love this journey. It's been really hard,

940
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:35,040
but it's been incredibly worth it because it's led me to conversations like this. So Tracy,

941
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thank you so much to all of our listeners. We love you. Please comment, review, let us. And again,

942
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if you have a guest that you'd love to see on our show, please let us know. We're finding a lot of

943
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guests that way. So to all of our guests, we'll see you in a week. Much love, everybody.