Welcome Ralph, new one and Bevo.
It is so nice to have you guys here.
Roya, do you know what we're doing on this one?
No.
Actually, stick around.
So Sleepy and Tanelle actually convinced us to open up our own nest.
And that's what we're doing here today is we're promoting that.
We're going to do a weekly show.
The nest is going to be called the rabbit hole.
And we're going to dive deep into some more of the paranormal conspiracy,
alternative history and alternative news type stories.
So we wanted to tell everybody exactly what we had going on and the kind of subjects that we're going to be talking about.
So I'm going to let Bevo and Ralph go for a minute and I'll throw some in in a second.
Roya, go Ralph.
Hi, everyone. Do you hear me?
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Oh, good.
So, yeah, nice introduction. Thank you.
Where to start?
Maybe I tell something about myself.
As everyone was talking how they find their way to Nostra.
I heard about Nostra. I live in Germany.
And when there was last year, the moment when everyone was unhappy with Twitter.
So Mastodon became a big thing.
But all the people I saw on the social networks posting their Mastodon addresses, they were not the coolest people around.
So I thought, like, maybe I don't try it.
But when I heard about Nostra, then it was in December.
I thought, maybe let's go into this direction and check it out.
And then after Christmas, I started a test balloon and did not follow people or use my picture or whatever.
Just lurked around and then global was back then not so crowded.
So it was easy to get the vibe of the network.
And then mid-July, mid-January, I decided to create this account.
And now I'm here.
And I'm really glad that you joined.
And I'm really glad that you just were like, oh, I'm just going to I guess I'm going to tell everybody how I joined Nostra.
I'm sorry. I'm not going to co-hosting.
But I'm really glad to hear your voice, Ralph.
It was the thing at the beginning.
I thought it's going to replace Instagram.
But then I figured out this is a nice way to communicate because the people here are great.
So now I don't use it as a one way street to dump my shit.
But it's nice to interact.
You know, I got to say, Ralph, one of the things that got me interested in Nostra when I first heard about it, I had no idea what this was.
And one of the guys that I knew said, oh, you got to check this out.
And he was telling me some stuff about it.
I was a Reddit guy for a long time.
And he's like, hey, he's like, the one thing that's cool about this is they can't censor you.
And I was like, wait a minute.
So after about 100 shadow bands on Reddit, I'm like, you know what?
I'm going to take a look at this Nostra thing.
So that's what got me on board.
And I'm thrilled that I got here.
Yeah, I've never been a social media guy because I just can't stand the centralized platforms and all the bullshit.
But I actually got a three day ban from Messenger.
I was messaging a friend and we were having a private message and I got fucking banned by Zuckerberg and all this bullshit.
And so I just said I've had enough and I ended up on Nostra.
For a private message?
Yeah. And I was talking about the government.
I was just shooting the shit with this guy.
I was bashing the government as I normally do because I'm like, yeah, that's who I am.
And yeah, I got this message and said I was outside the community guidelines or some bullshit and shut my feed down for three days.
I couldn't talk to anyone.
And I travel a lot.
And so the only reason I had Messenger, I never use Facebook or Twitter or any of that bullshit.
And I use Messenger to keep in touch with family and friends back home because all my normal friends do it.
So that's why I was on it.
So now I've ditched that.
If somebody doesn't want to use Signal, then I don't talk to them. That's basically how it goes.
Yeah, that's awesome, man.
I'll tell you, I got those shadow bans that I got.
I got one and I got a million of them.
So I knew the account was getting watched was because of when...
Who was it?
I can't think of the guys that went on GameStop and they went after Melvin Capital.
Oh, Wall Street Pet.
When that was going on, I was promoting the shit out of that thing.
And my account was old enough.
I had enough people looking at it to where I actually started making a little bit of splash in the water.
And they were like, yeah.
And then Reddit got in trouble for the whole thing and had to have that congressional hearing.
And they were like, all right, we don't need this guy running around telling everybody to help them out.
So that was my first shadow ban.
And they just never ended after that.
So you're a mark man after that.
That's what you're saying.
You've been putting it...
Yeah, oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Every single thing I put...
Right now, I'm only using the account to actually help out the people on the Nostr sub work their way through the Nostr setup.
So I go over to...
And plus I steal all their crap to put it on Nostr now.
So that's pretty much the only thing I use that account for anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah, I had the warning in an Instagram direct message.
In a direct message?
I can't believe, man, these guys are out there, huh?
Yeah, obviously they got an algorithm, you know, just scaring your personal one to one chats that you're having with a mate.
And if they don't like what you're saying, then they ban your ass.
I mean, where like...
Am I living in fucking China?
What is happening?
This is like fucking clown world, right?
For fuck's sake.
Give me a break.
And it was a conversation with the person.
We are befriended on Instagram for like, I don't know, 10 years, like forever.
And all of a sudden, there was a warning in the DMs.
Shit.
You know, actually, guys, that's one of the subjects I wanted to bring up.
And, you know, being that you're talking about it with them watching your accounts, you guys, here's one of the topics I wanted to bring up for the rabbit hole.
You don't remember a while ago when PayPal had that thing in their terms and agreements where they were going to fine you $2,500 for misinformation.
Remember that whole thing, right?
Yeah.
And everybody, you know, somebody actually read it.
Everybody saw it.
Everybody flipped out.
And then they turned around and backpedaled and said, I don't know.
It didn't mean that shit.
It was a mistake, which is complete bullshit, because if it didn't get such, you know, notoriety, then they would have just left it in there.
But something weird happened.
Everybody in the US who is following crypto knows that that congressional hearing that happened a little while ago with Gary Gensler, right?
Everybody followed that because the guy's such a prick.
Nobody can stand him.
Now, there were a lot of things that happened through that.
But one of the things that stood out more than anything.
And I wanted to bring this up as one of our topics for one of our weekly shows.
I don't know too much about AI, but I hear a lot of different people talking about it.
So it's something I want to have to look into.
Gensler actually actually was asked about AI by one of the questioners, and he alluded to something that was really screwed up.
So he said he was happy with the stuff and the questioners said, well, look, this stuff kind of scares me because it's very easy to use it for the wrong reasons.
And Gensler said, well, he said, you know, we can use it for the right reasons because this thing can scan all of the person's history to decide if they are.
I can't remember exactly how he put it.
I wrote it down here.
Determine if they are credit worthy.
So now what's that?
That's just disgusting.
That's exactly I did see some on China on a topic like that.
Excuse me, where they said, you know, now they can, you know, China can determine a person's social credit or economic credit based on a lot of different things.
And one of them was something that seems insignificant was how often does the person charge their phone and they're using it as a level of responsibility.
And it just shows how deep that you can get tracked on this stuff.
And now we're using AI to do it.
So now when PayPal said, hey, we're going to use this if we don't like it, the misinformation that you're posting, then we're going to find you.
Well, who the hell is going to determine if this is misinformation?
And now if the government is looking at it going, yeah, we're going to use AI to decide if we like the shit you're posting on social media just to see if you're going to have a decent life by cutting you off from the economic system.
That's some scary shit.
And I'd like to bring that up on one of our shows to address it.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, that's there's there's more conspiracies in all of that than that.
You could talk about that for a year.
Yeah.
And just so you guys know in the audience, that's what we were planning on doing.
We're going to do a one week show and we got to work out the times because our time zones are all very different.
But we're going to try to run the rabbit hole for one year and see what comes out of it and then kind of go from there.
You guys have any other topics you want to do because I got a whole shit load.
I don't want to talk forever, though.
Oh, I love conspiracies like I don't know.
I really just love.
I really like that you guys want to talk about AI.
I mean, it's not even a conspiracy at that point, but literally any and all conspiracies, I know you guys would kill it.
You guys already sound so great together, by the way.
I'm really excited for this.
Yeah, actually, we all will go ahead, guys.
What I don't want to be lost on the audience is that it took us three to come together to bring Roya out to be a co-host.
She's a nice where is that?
So, Roya, do you have a favorite one?
Some you'd like to hear on one of the episodes?
Dude, this one's just like a personal one.
Low key, I always think about the moon landing.
I mean, like, how do they have like how do they do that once and then never again?
That's on my list.
It's actually on the list of stuff.
I did that one for a while.
I looked into a bunch of that information and, man, there are a lot of things.
And now I did this a long time ago and then revisited it recently.
And I saw, you know, as time goes on, more things happen.
And one of the things that came out that was recent, I think it was on the Conan O'Brien show that Buzz Aldrin and said, you know, O'Brien said, yeah, you know, I remember watching the moon landings on TV when I was a kid.
And Buzz Aldrin said, no, you didn't.
He goes, you watched animation.
We didn't have video cameras up there.
And everybody's like, whoa, holy shit.
That's right.
There was it was only still frames.
So everything we watched is absolutely guaranteed not taking place on the moon if it was a moving video.
I read this, too, about Buzz Aldrin.
You saw that one, Ralph.
Did you know that in Hollywood, California, where all the movies are made, they have a walk of fame where it has a star for everybody who who contributed to the movie and television industry and the entire Apollo crew has a giant moon with all their names on it, not for going to the moon for their contributions to the movie and television industry, because apparently the filming that they used was very advanced at the time.
And it actually the industry picked that up and started using it to improve what they were doing.
So we're pretty sure.
Yeah, these guys were, you know, filming stuff down here and making it look like they were up there.
And, you know, a lot of people in the United States bought that shit hook line and sinker at the time.
I will say there is one conspiracy theory that I recently me and my friends like went down the rabbit hole.
It was just like fun night.
And it's have you guys heard about the Tarterian theory?
Yes, it's on my list, too.
Oh, my God. Really? I feel like nobody talks about that one.
You know, it's very new, actually.
And there's not a ton of people doing it.
So it's not like an older conspiracy.
Like if you take something like JFK, I mean, there's so many people that did that for so long.
This one's newer and there's not a lot of guys talking about it.
But the thing is, when we do these, Roy, you know, we're going to make sure I mean, one of the reasons that Ralph is integral is because he is a research analyst also.
And he's going to be like our quick fact checkers.
So, like, when we bring stuff up on the show, he'll be able to tell us if, you know, whatever I said was actually accurate or not.
And the one thing that we're bringing up is we're going to cover topics that actually have some kind of verifiable verifiable evidence behind it.
So it's not just going to be, you know, this kind of topic can bring in some wild people.
Let me say I went to Mufon in the United States, the mutual UFO network, their private company that studies UFO everything.
And I went to one of their presentations at in Las Vegas at the Atomic Test Museum.
So they had a lot of people there. I would say there was about 100 plus people in the audience.
And the guy who runs Mufon was there and just talking about upcoming stuff and what they went through.
I would say for the audience, there was about 80 percent of the people were pretty normal.
But there were people on the Q&A, you could tell some of these people are pretty whack jobs.
You know what I mean? So we want to actually bring up topics, you know, that doesn't matter how absolutely crazy they might sound to the general public.
If they have some kind of variable verifiable evidence behind it, we're not going to shame anyone for it.
We'll we'll pull it on as a topic. And Tataria and the mud flood were actually one of my favorites.
I did that one recently and it was really, really cool. I've seen a lot of good evidence on that one.
I'm sorry, B-Logo. Sorry, Roy. There is one group I'm going to throw shit at new one.
And that's the Flat Earths, man. You know, I can't.
OK, so, you know, just for everybody in the audience to know, our first episode that we do was was a shout out to Sleepy at the time where we were talking about something he mentioned, Antarctica.
And that was a really good topic for me because I'd studied it a lot.
And I wanted to do Admiral Byrd and he was a big part of Operation High Jump.
And that was a whole thing about the conspiracy of Antarctica.
So the thing is, if we go back a little bit earlier before Operation High Jump, Admiral Byrd has an amazingly impressive record as a human being and someone well connected.
And the thing is, you're going to get into the hollow Earth theory with that.
And yeah, I know, Bebo, it sounds crazy when you start talking about it.
The thing is, I'm not going to, you know, shit on anyone's beliefs, but I will say there's always evidence.
And if they got something concrete, like I actually did some of the tests that they gave and said, hey, why don't you check this out?
The tests that they're doing are something that people could actually do in real life. And I'm not saying the Earth is flat, but I'm saying there's something going on that we're unsure of.
You know what I mean? So I'm not going to crap on them, but I will let them have their day.
You know, I will let that we will cover that one, even if you don't like it.
Man, I think we're going to beg to differ on this, dude.
We will.
Just ask Tanel. Look at him.
That's our proof right there. That's all we need.
You know, Bebo, actually, I found one thing that was really cool along.
So I did a hollow Earth, flat Earth, domed Earth, all these different Earth theories.
And I ran a lot of the experiments. Man, I found something that was really interesting for me because I would like to do a Moon episode,
aside from the Moon landings, because there's a lot of really good shit with how weird the Moon is.
And one of the things that came up that I'm still not sure on was Moonlight being colder than the ambient air around it.
And I'll tell you, I actually did the experiments and it did work.
We used two different thermometers. One was a Mercury analog thermometer and one was a digital.
And if you have a decent amount of Moonlight, it will register temperature in the area that's colder than the regular air.
So what we did was we took consistent pieces of material, so plastics and metal, no woods, because they have a grain in them,
so they can throw temperature off. And we found that if you put that item in the shade in half of it and in the Moonlight in the other half
and measure the temperature on both halves, on a full Moon, you'll get a 12-degree difference on both thermometers.
And then if you actually do it on a half Moon, where there's half the amount of light, you'll only get a six-degree difference.
But it's still weird because the Moonlight is colder. And as far as what we know for, like, you know, common physics,
any light source should produce heat. And it was a very interesting thing.
I would love to talk about some of the weird stuff about the Moon while we're on one of our shows.
Yeah, that doesn't seem... I've got a fair bit of physics knowledge and that just doesn't seem to be possible.
It doesn't jive. Yeah, it doesn't jive, right? But I did it myself. I've done it on numerous occasions because it's very easy to do.
And if you ever want to try it, man, it's really cool. You should check it out.
There are a lot of guys who have YouTube videos on it, but the thing is I can't believe a YouTube video to save my life.
You know what I mean? Like, OK, yeah, you know what? You did it. That's great. I'll tell you what.
I'll believe it when I see it myself and I'm the one who's conducted the experiment and not some guy on YouTube, you know?
What about the old one, what you did at school when you made a pyramid out of straws and put an apple in it and it lasts longer? You know, like...
I didn't do that one. What is that?
Well, you make a pyramid like out of something like straws or whatever and put an apple in it in the pyramid and put one outside the pyramid and the one inside the pyramid will last longer.
Before it goes bad. Is that true? Yeah, well, is it? I don't know. I have no idea. I've never done that one.
Maybe it's a conspiracy. I don't know. Maybe the pharaohs went on to something, mate. Who knows?
You know, that one actually we can do the rice bowl experiment and we can literally do that one together and see what happens.
Are you guys familiar with that one at all?
No. Not here.
So the rice bowl experiment was something that came out of an experimentation a while back where there was this guy and he said, you know, if you freeze ice or take water
and you label, you know, good on one and bad on the other, put them in the same room and you talk nice to one and you talk bad to the other and then you freeze them.
When you look at them under an electron microscope, you could see there's a more chaotic structure to the ice crystals in the bad one and there's a more harmonic structure to the ones for the good ice crystals.
Now, that's fine, but not everybody has an electron microscope. But what the key was, was the water.
So it came down to the rice bowl experiment where, excuse me, if you take two bowls, if you just cook a batch of rice and it's split in half and put them in two sealed jars and you do the exact same thing.
The experiment's design was, can the field around a human being and the intention of a human being, the person's will, affect the area around it?
So if you do this, there are, again, there are people on YouTube that do it, but you can do it on yourself.
Can it change the effect of something around you?
And what turns out is after about nine weeks of doing this, you'll see a much larger considerable amount of mold and decay on the one that has the bad label on it versus the one that has the good label on it.
So we can actually do that through the course of the show.
We could each do it once and then just post pictures of it just to show the difference.
That would be an interesting one to kind of figure out if it's true or not.
Yeah, it sounds like you're taking this whole woke thing too seriously, man.
You're telling me you're upset and you're upset and rice. Is that what you're doing?
What's that? Yeah, yeah.
No, no, no. You upset the water, no?
Yeah, it's the water. Yeah, it's the water. Yeah, that's the design is that the water is affected by your presence and how you feel.
Basically, your mood is changing, having a physical effect on your immediate surroundings.
I did not see the rice ball experiment, but the guy, I think it's a Japanese guy. I saw him talking to glasses of water, screaming at them and so on.
Yeah, he was the first one to do that. That's where this whole rice ball one came from was his experiments.
Yeah, that was a good one. I had a couple of other ones up here. I wanted to do some other ones. Yeah, Roy, I had Mud, Flood and Tartaria on here.
I wanted to do time slips as an episode.
Those are some really interesting things where you get people that show up in different areas of time or where you'll get someone going into one area and then coming out of another area like they've slipped through the fabric at time.
I think one of the most famous cases was there was someone, well, in the US anyway, there was someone in the US who showed up in the middle of the street and got hit by a car.
When they did the autopsy, they found everything on the guy was like 100 years in the past.
They have no recollection of this guy at the current time. When they started researching all the items that he had on him, like the envelope with the stamp, and he had a beer token for a pub and all this stuff,
all of these places actually existed, but they existed 100 years in the past and they weren't at that particular time. I thought that was an interesting subject too.
Yeah, I'd also like to explore some more of the government conspiracies. I think they go deep, man. Real deep.
Yeah, I have MKUltra on my list. Any kind of mind control stuff like the Manchurian candidate and things like that. That's a fantastic topic.
Isn't there a thing called the Monarch thingy? Oh, yeah, Project Monarch. Yeah, I see that one.
That was named after the butterfly because those butterflies migrate and they go for three generations during their migration pattern, and they all know what to do, even though they don't have a way to tell each other,
hey, look, we're all going to fly to this place. It's going to take three generations and then we're all going to fly back. So it was how do you pass information from one generation to another generation?
And what you were talking about, Roya, that the US government was doing was they wanted to see if they could implant something in someone's DNA that a generation or more later could manifest itself.
And it was designed for assassination reasons. So the person would never know that two generations later when they were born that they were born with some type of trip code in their DNA that at some point in their life they would turn into a government assassin and there would be no trace of any type of communication with that person.
That was a hell of a operation. So it's related to MKUltra, which is a confirmed real thing that happened.
Yes, yes, it is. Yeah, it was Project Monarch, I believe was the name of it. But the thing is, is that this is the stuff that we know about. So you can only imagine the kind of crap that we don't know about that they're doing now. I mean, it's probably gotten pretty damn scary by this time.
Another mystery I would like to explore is the question if Sleepy is an alien from Planet Tenno.
Actually, Ralph, I had on my list, I wanted to do reptilians because it's such a big popular topic for so long that it absolutely deserves at least one friggin episode. And the idea behind that is, is, you know, this is going to be very speculative, even though there's a lot of, you know, circumstantial evidence, not the drill concrete.
But if we had, let's just throw this as a hypothetical, if we have evolved from some type of primate into an intelligent species, why couldn't some other species do it? So I was like, well, at least, you know, I mean, that seems to be a hot topic across all the social media platforms for the conspiracy community.
They love reptilians. So I definitely would like to cover that one at some point in time.
We've also got to look at Area 51 and all that. That goes pretty deep as well. UFOs and the like.
Bevo, I would love to. I've been to Area 51 on multiple occasions. So that for me is a fantastic topic. I would absolutely love to do that, man.
Something that always does my head in is why do we have to assume and make the aliens and the pictures of the aliens and everything look like us? Like they're almost humanoid, you know, like that sort of generic.
Like if we're gonna if we're gonna make this shit up, why do we have to do that? Why can't they be something totally different or just an energy force? So I'm going to call bullshit on Area 51 and all the crap that they reckon they've got straight off the bat.
You know, actually, this is going to get really fringe as far as topics go. But during the time that I spent with the remote viewing people and practicing that, that's something that came up on numerous occasions because if you have somebody who can actually remote view and use the psychic ability to, you know, focus it on one particular topic.
One of the most common topics is going to be aliens and UFOs. And a lot of times when they do something like that, the results come back and they are not humanoid type results.
It's because that's a limit to the extent of our imaginations. Yeah, some of these guys were coming back with some outlandish friggin descriptions of what alien life was, you know, or some other life. Yeah, I would love to do that.
That's a great topic.
I mean, to even think that somebody in another galaxy has actually got a spaceship like we have and a humanoid body type form and comes here to have a look at us and see what we're doing is just farcical.
I mean, it's just going to be an energy force of some description that just saps around and does whatever it does. I mean, so yeah, I'm calling bullshit on all of it.
Yeah, you know, even if a species did have the ability to travel like that, that doesn't mean they're going to use the same type of what we would call craft or even look remotely like us, you know.
So, hang on one second, QW, go ahead.
Yeah, I'm just, you know, when you think about the technology that would be involved in UFOs and they're basically masters of gravity, if that's the case.
You know, you look at our technology where we're going into AI. Why wouldn't they have just already said they've already mastered AI? I mean, we could just be, you know, all they're sending.
They're not sending actual humans or actual aliens. They're sending just their, their devices, you know.
Well, yeah, absolutely.
You know, that's a good point. I actually had this discussion just to give a different perspective on it.
The thing with the grays, the standard gray alien that everybody's familiar with.
There has been some people that have suggested that they are not an organic organism, that they are actually a hybrid type cyborg. So, they are an AI but with an organic compound around it.
The thing is, from what you're talking about QW is why wouldn't you send some type of AI kind of thing out there so that even if you were an organic organism that had the ability to expire, you would probably send something like a probe out there.
And one of the suggestions that came up was the reason we've actually had crashes like this, you know, reported where UFOs have actually touched Earth is because you're not sending, you know, the master fleet out to come here.
You're just sending probes out to gather information. And if you lose one, these things can't get off the planet. So you really don't give a shit.
Now it's just a theory, but it does sit with what you were talking about.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
I think that any, you're crazy to think that we're in this universe or the next one or the next one that there's nothing more intelligent than us because we are pretty stupid when you look what we do.
The, it would be nothing. It would just be teleportation of some description. It's a transfer of an energy mass is all it is.
So, however, they've whatever mechanism they've used to get themselves around the universe is just taking matter and getting it from one point to the next.
That's it. And once you overcome that, you're done. You this whole thing of hop, hop in Elon's fucking spaceship and going to Mars is right. Right. Right. It's old technology might, he needs to, you know, needs to get on with it.
Yeah, and that was, you know, one of the other things that we were talking about before when Roy brought up the moon landing. One of the biggest problems I remember there's a 24 2014 little video that came out from NASA and they were talking about the Orion project of
flying this giant ship from Earth to Mars and you know populating Mars and this this and that. And they even said at that particular time we still have a problem with the Van Allen belts we can't break a certain height of orbit without frying anything organic.
So you're right that technology that we're using with getting rockets up I mean yeah that's fine for lower orbit but it is not a viable way to travel like interstellar space you know. Yeah, I mean but you got to walk.
Before you can run. We didn't build skyscrapers overnight, you know we build right or than a two story.
And so, like, you know, we'll get there, but it might be an hour lifetime that's for sure. I don't think I'll see it. Yeah. And the other thing is, if somebody's coming to see us.
They're not nasty like us, they've moved on well well beyond that to get to that point to get to the point of being able to travel from one universe to another.
You're not roaring around your own planet, shooting people starving people right bullshit right there on a different level man. That's, you know, I go ahead Ralph. Yeah, you saw so many problems.
You are not going to rate other planets for their energy or the resources, all those problems you solved already on the way. Yeah.
You know, bevel it that's very true with one of the, like the philosophical ideas of visiting this planet from somewhere else was if you were to take an outside snapshot.
You would look down and say you know what, we definitely don't want to interact with these jerk offs but we do want to keep an eye on them, just in case they start getting off of their planet.
That was actually one of the theories of the moon being what would be considered like a Dyson sphere where is actually an actual craft that was parked here was maybe they put that here, just to keep an eye on us because to them that's like breaking
open an ant farm inside of your house, you know what I mean. So, I mean, I mean just think about this, there's, there's a, there's something up there looking down on us just to check us out.
And one, one of them says to the other one says have a look at these turkeys. They put themselves in these two, two tonne metal boxes with wheels on it.
Get on a skinny road and drive toward each other, and they're in control of it with a steering wheel going 70 mile an hour. Yeah, lethal speeds. Yeah.
What are they doing? I mean just look at every zoom out and look at everything we do.
We are Neanderthal at best, at best. Yeah.
And you know one of the, the points of view from Stanton Friedman he was an old UFO guy.
He said you know if you look down on this planet, this species, most common hobby for the last 10,000 years is tribal warfare.
He's not wrong about that, you know. Yeah, now we got a long ways to go.
Yeah, let me see what else I got on this list.
Oh, you know what I'd like to do on this one isn't kind of fun. Out of place artifacts and forbidden technology I don't know if you guys have any interest on that but I enjoy the hell out of that Austin you got something there.
Oh well it's kind of kind of ties both of these things together I don't know if you heard the story about the Egyptian scarab that they worshiped, and how some Russian dude was talking about how it can produce anti gravity effects by using like the iridescence
of its shell and light, and the flapping of its wings and like some kind of void in its body. And even though it, it doesn't seem like it should be able to fly.
It creates like an anti gravity effect which helps levitate it and allows it to fly, you know, and to me that kind of seems like a way for these UFOs to kind of exist and float in a way and a technology that maybe the Egyptians had an idea about
is kind of, you know, lost to time, but also maybe hidden by maybe some of our governments in the world today have knowledge about that technology and are using it to create these, these flying crafts that exist that we call UFOs, you know, so I don't know if you heard about
that.
I want to ask you so you're talking about an actual living scarab.
Yeah, it's like those those scarabs that have like, they're kind of like beetles and they got like a hard shell and they kind of like have an iridescent shell but then they are also they fly through, and they kind of fly like a bee but they're kind of shaped weird and kind of bigger
and heavier, and apparently, I don't know, I don't know how true the statement is but supposedly the iridescence of their shell makes light go in like helps light inside their body and that light, like interacts with their, their, their physicalness
in a way, and their body is shaped in a way where by flapping its wings, even though it doesn't really generate lift it creates this like anti gravity effect that is like a type of lift.
So it's like a different way of flying from a bird or be or something like that. And yeah, it's like the Egyptians used to put the scarabs in a lot of the things it's like in a, it's like a cold thing from them, you know, yeah, actually that's why I asked you if it was an actual living scarab
because I know that the scarab was a huge part of their culture and their religions and stuff like that. So you're saying that this, this particular type of scarab actually exists because if that's the case I'd like to look this up and the reason why is because I want to see if there's
if there's accuracy, or if it was a, like a mistranslation so I'll give, I'll give you example. So when people say, you know, according to the laws of physics bumblebees can't fly shouldn't fly, yet they do well that's completely inaccurate so what that came from was an old aeronautics
book from France, I believe, where they were talking about that. What's that yeah, no they had it right actually it was everybody else who repeated it wrong is what happened.
But what happened was they said look if a bumblebee used fixed wing flight. It wouldn't be able to fly. The thing is bumblebees use what's called a dynamic stall so they create a pocket of air under themselves when they fly.
That doesn't mean that they're defying the laws of physics, when they fly they're just using a different form of that same exact physics that contact physics. So I want to take a look at that scarab that you're talking about there Austin because if it does have something a little bit
different going on I'd like to know what it is that's very cool man. Thank you.
I mean I'm not sure like I just read about it maybe a month ago and heard about it and the conversation you're having reminded me of it. And I don't know if it's similar to the bumblebee effect that is how it actually flies or if this, this, I think this Victor, I forget his last name
like a Russian dude was posting about it. And yeah he was saying that it's it's kind of an anti gravity effect that this scarab uses. And, you know, it could be that that that's the type of physics that we're not really super aware of but maybe the, you know, the powers
that be are aware of it and do use it to create, you know, devices and flying flying devices and what we call UFOs, you know. Yeah, absolutely.
Hey, you know, I'm still, are you still awake? Sleeping, Tanel? Yeah, I'm awake.
Yeah, I just, because we've been talking nonstop and having a pee patty I just making sure that you're still there. No, that's what keeps me awake actually.
No, we're still here. Like a topic for you guys could be mermaids if you guys are interested in that.
Actually, that would be really cool. That would be really cool. I've seen that one quite a few times. I don't know. Bevo Ralph, you guys ever see any stuff on that?
Mermaids? Yeah. Yeah, in Disney movies.
No, I'm serious. There's actually, there's actually some evidence out there that there is an underwater style civilization that is part humanoid and just like an evolved fish species.
I'm a mermaid. Yeah, I want to see Roya in a fish tail, to be honest.
Can you organize that Roya and make it your profile pic? I will definitely be on that ASAP. It's gonna happen now.
I could definitely see how lonely mariners could find something like a dugong or a manatee as a mermaid. You know what I mean? Like, oh, that's a cute, cute thing.
You'd have to be well down on your vitamin C to think of a dugong. Or drink a lot of rub, maybe. Maybe drink a lot of rub.
I think they're far into the scurvy at that point. Yeah, starting to get delirious.
You know who I actually heard it from, which was interesting, was from a friend that says that he's heard tales and stuff like that about the springs because I had told him that I went out to go camp, right?
I went to these springs and these springs have huge, huge, huge caves down under, underwater caves. And they go deep as fuck. And he was telling me that there's people out there that talk about some tales about that going on there.
So I was going to tell you guys, try to do research on not salt water, but on freshwater. Okay.
But those springs are exactly the same springs that manatees use to live in during the winter and stuff.
You know what, Austin, that I actually ran into a while back, that was the only thing that said, okay, I'm willing to take a look at mermaids, was people pulling up and fishing nets, fish that have been stabbed with coral carved spear points that broke off in the fish, and they pulled it up.
And I was like, all right, well, you got one thing, it's at least enough to make me say possibly, but it's not real high up on my possibility list. It's just enough to say, maybe, you know?
Yeah.
So, and by the way, everybody, Bevo is here to keep me balanced.
That's what it is.
I'm trying to.
There's always, I am going to say some insane shit on our shows, man. And I need somebody to be on the other side of the scale.
Otherwise, we are just going to, I'm just going to sound like a rambling psycho, and the show is going to suck.
So, yeah, I've got my work cut out for me, huh? Oh yeah, you do, buddy. I've been doing this a long time, and I used to do drugs. So, there's a lot of stuff in there that's mixed in with that kind of crap.
Are you telling me you're not on the now? Is that what you're saying?
This is you sober?
Actually, you know what? The only drug, I will say this.
The only thing I did today was a Red Bull, and it's been about three months because I have a heart condition and I can't really have them.
But I was so tired by the time I got out of work. I'm like, man, I need some energy to get this show going to make sure that the nest keeps going for the next hour. So, I can feel that thing coursing through my veins here.
So, what you said to yourself is, I can't have Red Bull because I've got a heart problem, but fuck it, I'm going to have one. That's what you're saying.
Damn right. I got more balls and brains than I got a whole lot of fucking balls.
Are you fucking IQ, man? What is it?
I couldn't even tell you. I have no idea. I mean, I did pass a Mensa test about 20 years ago.
To the person sitting next to you?
No, no, I actually got accepted. I didn't get accepted because I just passed the test and I hung out with those guys and they're a bunch of friggin' know-it-all bastards.
I had a different interpretation of the word pass then. Sorry, that was a joke.
What did you say, say that again?
You said you passed the Mensa test and I said what? To the person sitting next to you?
Oh, no, no, I straight up did. That was a long time ago.
I did want to say, going back to the Tartarian thing I was saying, the only reason why I knew about that, I live in St. Louis, which we had the St. Louis World's Fair.
Oh, no way. I'm about 200 miles from you, Roya.
Oh, hell yeah.
I'm in Missouri.
So true. Oh my god. That's actually so incredible. You're so close to me.
But one of the big theories with the Tartarian thing is that the St. Louis World's Fair was like everything that was supposedly built was already there.
Because a lot of the things for the World's Fair, St. Louis World's Fair, it's not there anymore.
They took it down because it was like plaster, that's what they say. So it wasn't going to last. So they took it down immediately.
The only thing that's left is some of the world in Forest Park, some of it's left in the art museum.
And even in the art museum, it's very detailed and you're like, wow, they don't make things like this anymore.
And that's one of the things that really got me interested in it.
We went down that rabbit hole and I was like, wow, it's cool that that theory is really connected to where I live.
Yeah, there are all of the World's Fairs have that same story behind it where these things were already here and they just made a World's Fair to show everybody, hey, this is going to be the last time anybody sees this.
Take pictures if you want, because we're tearing it all down because we're starting a new world.
They called it like, I can't remember what it was, like a generational reset. And we're coming up on if anybody has ever seen that book from Charles Schwab at the World Economic Forum.
It was the great reset. They're doing something similar now. So it's not totally out of line to think that this hasn't happened before.
Because if you think about what the World Economic Forum wants, it's just to completely reset society and erase as much stuff out of it as we can to just make a brand new form of labor workers for that 1% of the population.
There's no reason to say that we haven't tried that once before. And that's where that mud flood, Tartarian type thing came from, because there's plenty of records that that empire existed and a lot of that shit was already here, based on, you know, the way it was built, the technologies.
We even have ancient maps with cities on it way before, you know, in America anyway, on North America, way before the Europeans got here. These places were already there and we have these guys that were explorers writing this stuff down going, holy shit, you should see this place.
And when they asked the local natives, they said, no, we didn't build this crap. This crap was already here.
Yeah, it's going to be a good topic. Yeah, Bivo, you should. Have you been to like St. Louis City and Forest Park and the Art Museum and all that?
I've been up to St. Louis, you know, I went up in the arts, watched the boys hit the ball around the park.
But I didn't go to the museum.
Actually, interesting story, I seen the New York Yankees play the St. Louis lads at the Cardinals.
The Cardinals, yeah. Killing it.
At the last, before they pulled down the Bush Stadium, I got some tickets and that was the first time the Cardinals had played the Yankees in 30 years.
Wow.
Yeah, and it was in the old stadium just before they pulled it down. And unfortunately, the Cardinals got their ass kicked.
Dude, you're so lucky. I'm so sad that I was born after that old stadium was knocked down. It was so beautiful.
It was only like 10 years ago that it was still there.
Was it? I don't remember it. I really don't remember it. No, no, no, no. I just don't remember when they knocked it down. I probably just don't remember. I don't know.
Yeah, I don't remember a lot of my childhood.
But like, wow, I wish I could have seen a game in that stadium. It was so beautiful.
I mean, I'm a cheat bastard. So I had my nose bleed in my seat. They were that high up the back. But I was there.
Who was that guy that played for the... I'm not real big on the baseball. I don't follow up that much.
But he got paid gazillions for the Yankees, the batter. What was his name? Who's the famous Yankees? He was the highest paid dude forever. 10 years. Anyone know?
Jeter? Who? Derek Jeter? No, it wasn't.
Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers. No, it wasn't.
Roger Clemens. Was he a batter? Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. It's just slipped my brain. I watched him anyway. He got like that year that I went to see...
I'm sorry. Rodriguez. Aaron Rodriguez. Yeah, Rodriguez. That's him. Yeah, that's it.
The year I went, I seen them play the Cardinals there. He got 25 million like that year or something stupid.
And that was like 10 years ago. And I'm like, and he didn't hit a run. He's got his ass handed to him that day.
There was a guy who had an interesting name was Pujol. He did really well. I mean, if your name's Pujol, don't you change it?
Pujols? Yeah. I've heard he's like actually an asshole. Like when you meet him. Like he's like really mean.
Well, with a name like Pujol, how could you not? Yeah, he probably got ripped on pretty good when he was a kid.
It's a pretty shitty name. Yeah. Very funny. Yeah. Yeah, but it sticks.
I will say, Bevo, I do recommend going and checking out the art museum because like, wow, like you can based on the Tartarian theory, like it really...
I really was like, oh, it kind of makes sense. Like that the St. Louis Art Museum being like the only remnant of that World's Fair or whatever is like you can really just tell like, wow, this is way cool.
Maybe myself and my wife will come up for a visit and you can take us to the museum and the basement. Hell yeah. And then buy me some ribs. Yeah.
I got you. Some good ribs in St. Louis, man. Some good ribs. I know all the spots.
Hey, you know what, guys? We only got a couple of minutes left. Tanellen Sleepy, I wanted to see if you wanted to bring up anybody from the audience and hear if there were any particular topics that somebody would like to hear on the show as we're doing them.
So if anybody had any specific subjects they wanted us to cover, we'll go ahead and take some requests.
Three of Liberty and Satoshi Tiko have their hand up for the longest. Go ahead, Liberty.
Hey. Yeah. So have you talked about the Chupacabras, you know, like the cryptozoology stuff?
I actually have cryptozoology on my list. Yes, I do. Yes, I like that subject. One of them because we never know, but one of them there was this thing in America called the Texas Blue Dog. And for a long time it was this insane looking dog type species.
Now, that was it was a, you know, like a strange creature until they actually got one. And when they did a DNA scan on it, they realized it was just a combination of a bunch of different canine style dogs. It wound up not being anything new or unnatural. It was just an odd combination.
But yeah, I like that topic a lot.
I don't know if you know this. What's that? The goat sucker, the Chupacabras. And you know that people said that, you know, used to be seen in the 90s around here in several towns in Costa Rica.
But there's been attacks, recent attacks, so nobody has reported that. But yeah, I mean, it's still, it's still a thing over here.
Yeah, I would like to. They were first seen in 1995. Really? Yeah, I wanted to do that also because Bebo is down from the region by Australia and there was some people talking about that they have seen that phylozine again and that it might not actually be extinct.
It might still be around. So I wanted to cover cryptozoology. Yeah, that's a really good subject. Yeah, I like that one a lot. And I don't know if you know this, Tico, but there was a time where the panda bear was a mythical creature because in Europe, nobody had heard of this insane bear style thing.
And they said, OK, all these people from Asia, and this is going back hundreds of years, they said all these people from Asia are talking about this black and white vegetarian bear with a round head.
And they had never seen anything like it, so they assumed that it was just something that they made up and it was like a children's story kind of bear because it was a gentle bear.
And until they actually got, they found one that was dead, they skinned it and said in the pelt all the way to Europe and they inspected it and they said, holy shit, this thing might actually live.
That's when they started sending people over. So for a long time, the panda bear was a mythological creature because it wasn't well known. So I'm wondering what else we have on our planet that just because it's not popular doesn't mean doesn't exist.
Good point. All right. Thank you guys. All right. Fucking amazing, guys.
Let's let's start wrapping it up. And I really, really, I can't fucking wait. Did you guys by chance say the date that you guys are going to start this?
We still have to figure out the times and because the time zones for us are very different and we are going to pick a date that's convenient for all of us.
But I would say we should have something hammered out in a week or two and then start the show from there. Man, you let me know. You let me know.
No one. You have to be the first guest to tell them and sleepy. That would be awesome. Yes.
And I'll be there. You guys want to have. Okay. Yeah. You guys said having guests. Yeah, I'm fucking down whenever you guys are. I'm down, man. I'm down. I'm awesome.
Roya, you want to say your goodbyes? I know you spoke for most of the time here. Yeah, it was so I'm just so glad because I'm honestly like it's kind of like my low key love is like researching conspiracies. So thank you guys for talking. And I'm really, really so excited to listen to you all.
Absolutely. It was great having you. Yeah, it was good for all you guys to have us up here.
And thanks for coming in and co-hosting Roya and to now and sleepy. Good effort, dudes. I mean, I know you're both really, really tired, but hanging that's nearly over.
Just think of everybody else in the world that's doing tougher than us at the minute. That's all you got to do to get help you get through. Yeah, good. Good job, fellas. And I'll try and hang around until you till you close this out. Like, what do you got left? Another what? Four hours?
It ain't shit. I don't even know what it is, but it ain't shit. We we know, bitch. We're not gonna let this stuff us. Yeah. Yeah. Easy, man. Easy.
I got I need the energy. I need the energy. I need to come up like, man. Oh, my God. We ain't no pussies. We ain't no fucking pussies, man. Come on. Yeah, no, you'll make it, man. You're on the down. You're on the downhill. You're on the back nine, dude.
We got this. I fucking love you guys. You guys killed it. I hope we get to speak very, very, very fucking soon. Next up. All right. So let me bring you guys down. Hold up. Thank you. Bye. Amazing. Yeah. Drink water. Drink water.