Too bad my
Damn!
Whew, that was fire!
Dude, I can tell, like, I can see your image in the thing just being like, what?
No, dude, I didn't see that coming.
Dude, that was amazing.
Nice.
Dude, I had fun with that.
Yeah, I had a hell of a lot of fun with that.
I just can't believe I said it was so fire.
Yeah, I know, friggin' weird.
I'm trying to keep it real with the kids these days, that's what I'm trying to do.
Anyway, what is up bros?
I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
And we are a couple of bros on a mission to give you guys the most detailed movie reviews
out there with as little bias as possible.
Welcome to the All Bros.
This week on the podcast we are trying something new-ish, kinda like it's an official test
of a video podcast, so we'll see how that ends up going.
So yeah, if it sounds a little different, just know that's the issue.
So this week in 4K Spotlight we have one new release to talk about that Rose and I have
– have you seen any of these movies?
No, I haven't seen one John Wick movie – oh, spoiler alert, sorry guys.
It's not really that much of a spoiler.
It's John Wick 4 is coming out.
Although, okay, with this I also have another thing to add with 4K Spotlight, because shit's
crazy.
I got shit to talk about with 4K Spotlight.
Okay, I'm pumped.
I'm so pumped.
So yeah, we'll be talking about the stuff in 4K Spotlight, or the item in 4K Spotlight.
We didn't really have anything in the news this week, at least nothing that interested
us.
No trailers or whatnot, so we'll be skipping that and we will be getting right into our
headliner, which will be our breakdown of Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse.
So without further ado, let's say we get into it.
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Yeah.
Love it.
A lot of the laughing that everyone's going to hear, like if you're listening to this
through the audio like a normal human being, we're going to be laughing about the visual
stuff because I had way too much fun designing shit this week.
Wait, so I can't remember because are we releasing this episode?
It was up in the air.
Okay, I just couldn't remember.
Sorry.
Did you want to or not want to?
Can we decide it by the...
Jesus.
Can we decide at the end?
We can definitely decide at the end.
So yeah, anyway, first up in 4K Spotlight, we got the release of John Wick 4.
So Rose, if you would like to tell everyone about that.
I would love to.
So starting off because there are so many goddamn exclusives of this movie, like holy
shit.
So starting off, this is just going to be the regular 4K release with the freaking awesome
poster that came out for this movie where his tie is a...
What is it called?
Where it's...
It's not a sand timer.
That is not the word I'm looking for.
Do you by chance know the word?
Hourglass, right?
That's the...
Yeah, that's the word.
Yeah.
I don't know how I forgot that, but whatever.
But yeah, so one of the classic posters from this movie that looks freaking badass.
Yeah, dude, I freaking love, love this picture.
Dude, it's a good one.
John Wick has been one that I've had such a hard time thinking of alternate designs.
Any other movie that's come out, I can usually come up with one or two alternate designs.
This one, I couldn't come up with jack shit.
So I mean, this is perfect in my opinion.
I mean, dude, wait till you see these exclusives because I wish I had seen all the John Wick
movies, but at the same time, I'm glad I haven't because my wallet is happy that I haven't
because God damn, there are so many cool ass exclusives for this movie.
But I know it was the same case with the third one.
So so so we got that one.
Next up, we have one of the Walmart exclusives.
So this is just a regular Blu-ray version.
But for just being regular Blu-ray looks badass.
That is way saying that that looks like steel, but quality cover.
Right.
I actually think the Walmart exclusive covers because these are just regular, you know,
slip covers.
I think these are better than the Best Buy Steelbook, the Best Buy Steelbooks.
Like it's good, but I hate that it's only one color and it's not like it's not like
very artistic like like this one and the other Walmart exclusive.
So like I said, I hate that I haven't seen these movies because I want to appreciate
this artwork.
I mean, I do, but I want to be able to appreciate it even more if I are Jesus.
I feel I'd appreciate it more if I'd actually seen the damn movie.
Right.
Like this is this is one I just kind of needed freaking grin and bear it and just watch him
already.
Like I've heard nothing about things about the movies.
Yeah, same here.
I've been told it's like shut your brain off action, which I can totally get into.
Same here.
And I mean, it's Keanu Reeves.
Like who doesn't love Keanu Reeves?
Very true.
If you don't, you're crazy.
Like seriously, if you don't love Keanu Reeves, there's something wrong with you.
Oh, absolutely.
Man is a saint.
It's straight up.
Yeah, right.
I freaking love him.
So yeah, so that's one of the Walmart exclusives.
Next up, the other Walmart exclusive, which is the four K and so beautiful.
This one's pretty cool.
Like it's kind of it's the same artwork.
Just what is it?
He's not have it like wearing a jacket.
I think the jacket still.
No.
OK, so yeah, and this one.
Yeah.
And the four K is not wearing a jacket and the big orange circle thingy is in the background.
Yeah, that one's pretty cool, too.
I love when they go to like artistic places with the covers.
Oh, same here.
Same here.
I feel a lot of people would say that's what they that's what they wish they did with the
Supermarket Bruce movie, at least with the steelbook, because I mean, I got the steelbook,
of course, but I know many people would say that it's very plain.
I mean, they wouldn't be 100 percent wrong, but still, like it's pretty cool.
No, it is.
And I got some stuff that's actually like the story is like the whole like release of
the Super Mario Bros movie.
It was a frickin like apparently it was a train wreck or some shit like that.
So, oh, geez.
Yeah, dude, I got some shit to talk about.
So, yeah, so that's the other Walmart exclusive.
Next up, we have the Target exclusive, which I actually really like what they're OK.
So I don't so I don't love these, but I appreciate the continuity with these because I think
a couple of weeks before the fourth one came out, they released chapters one, two and three
in this kind of format with the dog that is like the prominent.
I get the other the dog that is the prominent dog in each movie is the cover of these.
And so they're sticking with that with chapter four.
So it's going to look really nice when they're all together.
So I will give them that.
That is nice.
But I mean, out of all the exclusives, this is the one that I would would not pick up
unless I had the other three.
If I wanted to complete this set, which I never picked up the other three, because honestly,
if I really want to get the John Wick movies, I want to get like all four just on like a
steelbook set.
But at the same time, I think they're already like there there's early talks of chapter
five.
So I'm like, son of a bitch, we kind of pointless.
So I don't know what to do.
But anyway, that is chapter.
So that Jesus, that is the Target exclusive.
So this is the best by exclusive steelbook.
I like that one.
You.
OK.
So you like you like this one.
I like that one a lot.
Yeah, it's OK.
You know, maybe I take back maybe what I said about how I don't like how there's not a lot
of colors going on with this one.
I think I like that.
It's a yeah, it's simplistic.
And what's like now that I'm like really looking at this closely and like you're seeing it
too, I kind of want it now.
But preorders have sold out.
And I don't know.
Yeah, right.
And I don't know if it's going to come back in the stock.
I guess we'll see.
But yeah, friggin the others.
The steelbook is friggin gorgeous.
This one's cool.
It kind of has like like Matt Reeves is Batman vibes to it.
Yeah, dude.
Like where instead of it being like like just a straight up like red photo of Batman, like
it's just like like you guys know, like if you've seen it, like it's the
profile of Batman where it's like all in red, like it's it kind of has the same vibes, but
it's like a full like frontal picture of of John Wick.
That's friggin dope.
Yeah, it's a gorgeous steelbook.
Yeah, I freaking love that.
Damn it.
Now I'm kicking myself for not preordering it.
Ain't that the shit, dude?
Dude, I already preordered the across the Spider-Verse one because I think it like dropped
today on Best Buy, I ain't taking no chance on that.
Absolutely not.
Because it looks beautiful.
And yeah, knowing my luck, I would miss out on it.
And yeah, I'm not missing out on that bitch.
Good call.
Now what they need to do the way that that one looks, they need to re-release a steelbook
for into the Spider-Verse that has the same kind of like the same kind of layout going
on because now if I like have them both next to each other, I don't know, it kind of look
weird.
It doesn't really fit.
But next up, we got the Amazon exclusive.
This one doesn't match.
This one doesn't match the tone or just like the vibe of all like the other John Wicks
because like the John Wick logos, they're all in like boxed letters and it looks like
it's made out of neon or something.
This looks like kind of a handwritten vibe that it just doesn't match the tone.
Like again, I haven't seen the movie, so I'm not 100% sure.
But it just doesn't match what I imagined John Wick to be.
Like, okay, I've seen like bits and pieces of the first one, a couple scenes from the
second and nothing from the third.
So I kind of have a general idea of what John Wick is.
This doesn't match that tone at all.
Literally the only thing that I know from John Wick is someone kills his dog and then
the I swear he says a line like, yeah, I'm thinking I'm thinking I'm back or some shit
like that.
I want to say that's like a family.
I think that's a famous line from one of the John Wick movies.
That's literally the only thing that I know about these movies, because I don't think
that I have seen one trailer for any of these movies when I've gone to the movies, which
really surprises me.
Like I don't think I saw one trailer for John Wick Chapter 4.
I've seen a couple.
Like I know I've seen a couple, but for the first two, I don't think I saw anything for
those.
Okay.
I remember seeing something for three and I remember seeing stuff for four.
So I mean, I think like cool, cool cover.
But yeah, not not.
I'd rate it above the TARD exclusive, but it's definitely like my least favorite next
to that one when it comes to the exclusives.
Yeah, I probably like the artwork isn't like horrible, but it's got these pedals, which
I'm sure are significant in the movie, but it kind of has like a blood splatter effect
with like white hand painted writing, which like I said, I don't know if the pedals are
significant, but it kind of has like almost like a dark romance vibe to the cover.
That's a good point.
So you like it almost.
It almost feels like he should be like shrunken down some other like another like a chick
should be like up against his chest or and looking like off and away dramatically.
Just something like that.
Like that's what you sound like a freaking James Bond cover.
I mean, it's not that far off, though.
I mean, I'm not against the idea.
I don't know how it is with love interests in these movies.
Imagine if it's like imagine if it's like the dog that's like the main focus of the
movie, just like with his paws pressed up against him.
It's like looking to to his father.
That would be ridiculous.
I was going to be here for it.
I was going to say looking to his daddy.
But as we all know, you live, maybe it's just me, but the Internet has ruined daddy for
me.
I can only be considered sexual now.
I don't know about you, but never someone says daddy.
I'm like, nope.
Oh, really?
It's still OK for you.
It's still OK for me.
Like it's all it's all context.
So like Iris will call me daddy.
And I'm like, OK, like I understand that.
But I've heard like it's weird because it's like I've heard older women refer to their
dads as as daddy.
Yeah.
Like, oh, like I was just hanging out with my daddy this week and I was like, OK, like
not really thinking too much of it.
But it's like I'm I'm like the loser that will like if someone refers to that, I think
they're talking about their dads wins.
Like I've never once heard someone refer to their significant other as that.
Like ever.
I think we definitely have two different viewings of this because yeah.
OK, like OK, I've seen that's cool.
I've seen the Pedro Pascal jokes about it and like I understand the term.
It's just yeah, like I've said his bet.
What is he?
Poppy Pedro or some or Papa Pedro?
Papa Pedro like.
Oh, I freaking love it.
Anyway, I don't know why I got into it.
I'm going to move on.
You know what?
From a design aspect, I think what's throwing me off.
Oh, sorry.
It's all right.
What's throwing me off about that other one is kind of like the what they use to highlight
his face like that color, like it's odd like to see a green like that greenish.
I think they should have done for like the solid white or whatever that off white that
they have off to the right of his face.
Yeah, I think I should go to some of that.
And then last but not least, we got just the regular cover.
I'm not a big fan of this one.
I don't mind it.
I mean, for I mean, honestly, I would take it over.
I would take it over the target exclusive.
I'll give you that.
But I mean, for a Blu Ray simple cover that's, you know, like not exclusive anywhere, it's
just bare bones Blu Ray.
It's not bad.
I've seen worse.
Yeah, same here.
Okay, so Super Mario Bros time really quickly.
All right.
So yeah, so today.
So yeah, what was it?
So the six that was, you know, the day that Super Mario Bros came out and everything.
And that that is the day that it came out.
But it seems though that not all exclusives came out for some reason, because I went to
four different Walmarts, and the Walmart exclusive was nowhere to be found.
The one with the star and everything.
So what they're saying is, what is it that I've seen like people say that like, maybe
it will get released next week.
I don't know if that's actually going to happen.
So yeah, so that happened.
And then apparently, a lot of like, if I don't, I didn't check any of the actual like Best
Buy stores, but like on their website, it's still saying it's up for preorder.
It hasn't released yet.
It's saying that it releases next week.
So the day that so the day that John Wick chapter four comes out, apparently, that's
when the Super Mario Bros movie is supposed to come out as well.
Oh, that sucks.
Yeah, no, it's weird.
No, like, dude, like I was I was so I was able to go to because I got all so I preordered
the steelbook at Best Buy, so that got shipped to me.
But then I also picked up the Target exclusive lenticular cover.
And then because God, I've given this movie way too much of my money.
I also picked up the regular 4K version because I don't want to open my steelbook to watch
it on 4K because you know problems.
But so yes, I was able to get all the versions that I wanted except for the Walmart exclusive,
which like I said, they're saying it comes out.
They're going to there.
I've heard speculation that it's supposed to come out next week.
So the same day that John Wick chapter four comes out.
But yet if you go on Walmart's website to preorder it, the Blu ray set is still available.
The 4K set is sold out.
But the Blu ray set is I swear it's it's saying something like won't ship until like 2050.
Yeah, dude.
What a 25 years.
Yeah, right, dude.
We're literally going to have like 10 like 10 Super Mario Bros movies before the first
one's gift setting comes out.
How freaking funny would it be?
It's like when you're 54 or what would you be 55?
I don't want to know.
Yeah.
However old you'd be in 2050, like you get a message being like, hey, we shipped it.
We finally shipped it.
So, hey, that's cool.
The address you got, man, those apartments got torn down years ago.
So I don't know where the hell you're going to deliver it.
That'd be freaking hilarious.
That'd be freaking.
Yeah, dude, that would be so freaking.
It's like, hey, you still want your Super Mario movie?
It's like, yeah, that's like we're up to 25 years late.
It's like I'm still getting charged for that.
Seriously.
Yeah, no joke.
Oh, that'd be hilarious, dude.
Yeah.
So we'll see if like when this this set actually comes out because I want it.
It looks freaking awesome.
But I ain't paying no freaking aftermarket price because I love that people are like selling.
I saw like online the four K's going for like 100 bucks.
And I was like, y'all don't even have it in hand.
Don't try to freaking fool me.
It's not even been released.
So if anyone actually pays that, yeah, if anyone actually plays pay scalper price for that, I feel so bad for you.
And please don't do it because you might not even you might not see it till 2050.
Who knows eBay might not even be a thing then.
I'd be surprised if it was.
Don't say that.
I love eBay.
Dude, I have a hard time ordering anything from eBay because I'm so untrusting of people.
It depends for me.
I mean, honestly, I owe.
So when it comes to my John Wayne Gacy collection, half of it I owe to Etsy.
The other half goes to eBay.
Like when it comes to like the real life shit, like the newspapers and everything.
Yeah, I owe like all of that to eBay.
So if eBay goes away, I will be very sad.
Yeah, I am ridiculously untrusting of like everyone and everything.
I'm the kind of person like no shit.
Like I wish I was joking about this.
If there are steps that are like things that I need to open in a particular order, like if one's marked one, one's like if there were three bags in front of me.
Like, OK, maybe not three.
If there were I'm trying to think of like what the lowest number would be before I'd start doing the system.
It'd probably be like six.
So if there were six baggies that I needed to open, like let's just say this is like a Lego kit.
Right. And it was like one.
And then it like you bugs.
So like if there was like six baggies and it was like, all right, open one first, build this open to then like build like that whole kind of deal.
OK, I am seriously the type of person that before I open my fifth bag, I will check and make sure that bag one, two, three, four and five are all empty before I open six.
And I'll like just like double check.
Like because my memory is so free, like this is if I'm exaggerating, it is so mildly like it's not even funny.
It's like I'm so just like, oh, so nervous.
I'm going to check shit up.
It's ridiculous.
But I get where you're coming from.
I get it. I'm not that way, but I get where you're coming from.
I'll accept you for you, man. Don't worry.
I appreciate that.
All right. Well, moving on, we did not have anything in through the wall, like we said.
So with that, I think we can get straight into this week's headliner.
Let's do it.
Yeah, I didn't come up with like a fancy like transition with that one.
Oh, man. I'm just kidding. I know. I felt like I needed to come up with something.
It's just I didn't know what not to do.
I would have thought of anything either.
Yeah, like I was just trying to like mentally picture like what each of these looks like in my brain.
Like when I listen to the show.
So like the intro, I got like damn near exactly what I wanted.
Yeah, dude, that is perfection.
Yeah, I was just like, OK, what does that sound like?
That just sounds like a bunch of like transitions to different artworks.
Yeah. And so I was like, all right, cake.
This one, I was just like, what the hell do I do for for this?
I couldn't think of one didn't end up anything.
So we're just going to sit here awkwardly and listen to it together until I could come up with something.
So if so, we in regards to our breakdown, we did ask a question of the week that we did get quite a few responses from.
So the way that we're going to do it now because we have a bunch of people freaking comment on our shit is we're going to go through our top five answers.
Did you forget to pull up your or did you forget we were doing this?
No, yeah. Yeah.
So we're going to talk about our top five favorite answers.
Am I doing TikTok or Instagram?
So on Instagram, we only got a couple.
Oh, OK. OK, I'm going to apologize right now if it accidentally plays audio.
Sorry, I'm really prepared for this, as you can see.
Yeah, so we got a couple everywhere.
So I'll talk about like my my number.
I'll say my number five.
And this is from Jackson so lack so and multigamer on YouTube.
They so multigamer said baby Mayday, which I freaking loved.
Mayday.
Adorable. Yeah.
But they also but they both said Spider Punk.
Yeah, dude. Spider Punk was freaking great in this one.
Dude, Spider Punk was the shit.
I freaking loved him.
I wasn't sure how I was going to like him.
Like everyone was like saying like, oh, he's like like a weird character.
Like and I've I've heard some like.
Answer or some stuff about him, like read some stuff with him in it,
and he never really like stood out to me as a character.
I freaking love him now.
He has so much personality.
Yeah, I'm in. I am all in.
So freaking love Spider Punk.
So, yeah, you have a number five.
Number five, just because it doesn't actually give the name just as the cat one that has come from Mr.
Or wait, no, Agent Monog.
Agent Mango Man.
I hope that's how you wanted to pronounce.
I hope so. That's probably it.
Yeah, people.
That's freaking love the cat one.
Let's see.
Yeah, my number four.
I'm going to give to Trongo 23, who was over on Instagram.
He said Peter B.
Parker and he said in in in my mind captures the essence of who Spider-Man and Peter Parker are supposed to be taking all of the best aspects of the character and make them into the best version of the character in my humble opinion.
I agree.
I will say, though, that kind of not a spoiler alert for our review.
But I feel I wish that they would have handled him a little better in this one or he would have had more to do because I thought that his character, I thought his character was handled way better in the first one.
And I missed Peter B.
Parker in this movie.
I will agree.
I do think he's going to have a much bigger part in the one he freaking better.
So I got to say, so, yeah, that's my number four.
Number four for me, coming from Tick Tock as well.
We got Kale says 2099.
He's just so cool.
And the theme they gave him in the movie was was rope.
What is rope?
Yeah, it says rope beats the hell out of me.
You said can't wait to hear it.
Yeah, well, I.
I don't really think when I respond to some of these.
Let's see what I'm going to search if like what rope means.
Yeah.
So all right.
My number three.
And it's just because he freaking made me laugh like he always does.
This from DJ who said Bully McGuire is the only answer.
Yeah, that's my number three, too.
OK, that is not the answer I think I was looking for, and I am not going to read that answer.
Fair.
OK, moving on.
So number was this to now.
Yes, we're up to two.
Yeah.
So number two is from Fade Icy who said Lego Spider-Man did that.
That one caught me off guard.
I was not expecting that.
Fantastic. Yeah, it gave me Lego movie vibes and I loved it for that.
So, dude, have you heard about that?
That scene?
No.
So there's a a YouTuber.
He's 14 years old.
He create or he like animated the Spider-Verse trailer 100 percent from Legos.
Right.
Are you serious?
Yeah, absolutely.
It went viral, of course.
And Sony for some hit him up to animate that scene.
Oh, Sony, you just got some props in my book. That is awesome.
Yeah, I don't.
It's just I heard multiple people discussing it on like through TikTok and Instagram, like every.
My my my feet has been flooded, but with that Lego Spider-Man stuff.
But yeah, apparently a 14 year old animated all that.
That is bad.
Yeah, it is. That's so cool.
It is the coolest shit ever.
So that that's why Lego Spider-Man is getting my number two.
Excellent choice.
Number two.
I'll give to.
I don't know if you go by Mick creamy or MC creamy.
Either or.
But they said Spider-Man, Spider-Noir.
Caleb says he's usually the war, dude.
So Caleb's usually they always always the usually the one that always answers the questions.
And he said he's Caleb's favorite to.
Got got to answer.
I try to make it.
And I know. Well, I it's not necessarily third.
I'm just I try to answer where it's like you can't really tell who's responding.
Like like maybe I appreciate that turn that's answering for us.
No, that's fair. I appreciate that.
Yeah. Well, damn, you took my number one.
So no, you're good.
So I'm going to give my other number one or my real number one to Hardin James 76, who said Pavitra Prabhakar.
And he said he's the goat.
And that's the Spider-Man India in case you were curious.
The T.T. guy.
Dude, I freaking love that.
Do such a great joke.
What? What did you say?
That literally means T.
You're saying T.T.
Do you take do you take cream cream cream in your coffee coffee?
Oh, my gosh, dude.
I can't wait to talk about him later.
So great.
My number one, I got to give to Fernando Gonzalez.
And he said Peter B.
Parker just because to me he is the freaking goat.
I freaking love Peter B.
Parker. So got to give him.
So. All right.
Well, that covers every week are all the are technically our top 10.
So thank you to everyone that answered our question of the week.
We would love to sit and read all the ones that we got, but we would be here all freaking day.
So do appreciate you.
And we hope you guys keep responding because we love reading them.
Absolutely.
All right. So with that, we can get into our headliner.
So if you guys are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different categories that we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects, music, costumes, and then we give our own personal score at the very end.
All those numbers get magically added up and spit through our algorithm and give us a letter grade to compare this movie to others of a similar grade.
It also breaks it down into percentages and provides us a ranking for these movies that isn't too important, but we have fun pissing people off with them.
So sometimes we piss ourselves off.
That is very true.
That has happened on more than one occasion that we freaking got someone like butter over.
Which one was it?
Probably our eyes are Little Mermaid because they're just like, what in the ass is this?
Because we are comparing the Little Mermaid to like Age of Ultron and solo and pray.
And they're just like, what is this?
I don't understand what's going on.
Yeah, I saw.
Yeah, I saw that. So I thought, well, if you listen to our podcast, you would know that's the way to solve all your issues.
Yep. Just listen to the Albros. That's all you got to do.
It's all it takes. Yeah.
You got a flat tire. Listen to the Albros.
Getting a divorce. Listen to the Albros.
I was about to tell dysfunction. Listen to the Albros.
We could take this so much further.
We can. And I was so close, but I'm going to keep my mouth shut before so we don't get canceled.
Fair enough.
Dude, did you? I forget what Fairly Odd Parents episode was.
But do you remember when like there's so many of the there's like a bunch of like the different crimson chins and there's the nega chin.
I think it was the nega chin and the like the at the end when they're helping out Timmy, they're just like, you can count on me.
And me and me and nega chins just like not me. I got canceled.
Do you remember that? I remember that.
Okay. Yeah. That was that was freaking hilarious.
Right. God, I miss when the Fairly Odd went to shit.
Dude, no joke. Like most of classic Nickelodeon shows looking at you, SpongeBob.
That was a frag. SpongeBob Brandt. I know.
Not like we haven't had like a billion of those on this show at one point or another.
True that. True that.
All right. Well, if you have not seen Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse, definitely go check this movie out.
It is incredible.
I hated it, but that's just me. Just kidding.
Someone was about to get canceled.
Oh, shit. So, yeah.
So if you've not seen it, we are about to spoil the entire movie for you.
So if you listen beyond this point and anything is spoiled for you, it is your own damn fault.
So without further ado, Rose, if you would like to take it with our favorite segment, Reading with Rose.
Especially love how he said that. Reading with Rose.
I know I got like the logo and everything for you.
You know what? I appreciate that.
Dude, I think I. Okay. Okay. Hold up. Pause.
I am. I think I am going to change this this layout a little bit.
So there's like so I can switch between like just you and this like tiny little bubble of me.
Okay. Fair enough. So I could just like interject with like random shit.
All right. Here's my here's my here's my reading face. There we go.
He's a liar. He's never read like that in his life. Yeah.
Actually, that's really hard. I don't like that.
Where the hell is Wikipedia? There it is. All right.
On Earth 65, Gwen Stacy is struggling to live up to the expectations of her police captain father, who does not know that she is Spider Woman.
Years prior, Gwen accidentally killed her best friend, Peter Parker, while he was mindlessly rampaging as the lizard.
And the police have been hunting her ever since.
One night, Gwen heads to the Gunningham Museum in Manhattan after hearing reports of an intruder and encounters a version of the vulture from an Italian Renaissance themed alternate universe.
Spider people, Miguel O'Hara and Jessica Drew arrived using portal generating watches and help Gwen subdue the vulture.
Gwen is confronted on the scene by her father and reveals her identity to him. Distraught at this revelation, he attempts to arrest her.
She escapes through a dimensional portal with the others after Miguel begrudgingly grants her membership in the Spider Society.
In Brooklyn, on Earth 1610, 16 months after the destruction of the Alchemyx Collider, Miles Morales is adapting to being Spider Man while missing Gwen and struggling to live up to his parents' expectations.
While heading to a parent-teacher evaluation, he encounters the Spot, a scientist whose body was infused with portals after the Alchemyx Collider explosion.
Blaming Miles for his dilemma, the Spot brings Miles to Alchemyx and reveals that the spider that bit Miles came from another universe when the Spot was testing the Collider.
He then accidentally transports himself into a void where he learns to travel to other universes containing the Alchemyx Collider to use them to empower himself.
Gwen travels to Earth 1610 and reconnects with Miles, though she secretly tracks the Spot across dimensions.
Miles secretly watches Gwen trace the Spot to Earth 50101 as Jessica instructs Gwen to leave Miles behind.
After Gwen opens a portal to Mombatin, India, Miles follows her and they team up with Spider Man, Pov, I'm gonna butcher this, I'm sorry, Povatier, Probhokker, and Hobie Brown against the Spot,
who successfully absorbs the power of the world's Collider.
Miles is struck with a vision of his father dying at the hands of the Spot before the Spot escapes.
In the ensuing destruction of the Collider, Miles saves the father of Povatier's girlfriend, a police captain, but Mombatin begins falling apart from the disruption of a canon event.
Members of the Spider Society arrive to assess the damage of the dimensional anomaly, while Miles, Gwen, and Hobie are sent to their headquarters on Earth 928, where hundreds of Spider People variants reside in a massive complex.
They meet up with Miguel and are joined by Peter B. Parker and his daughter Mayday, as Miguel explains how each Spider Man story contains canon events, such as the death of a police captain close to Spider Man,
and that straying from those events threatens the fabric of the multiverse. Miles realizes the death of his father, who is set to be promoted to police captain in two days, is a canon event.
Miguel argues with Miles before imprisoning him, but Hobie helps Miles break loose before using a portal to quit the Spider Society.
Miguel orders all the Spider People to apprehend Miles, resulting in a long frenzy chase through the complex and surrounding city.
Miguel eventually pins Miles down and reveals Miles is the original anomaly, as he was never supposed to become Spider Man, and the world the spider that bit him came from has no Spider Man.
Excuse me. Miles flees and with the help of Margot Kess slash Spider Bite, returns to what he believes is his home dimension.
Miguel, seeing Gwen as a liability, ejects her from the Spider Society. Gwen reconciles with her father, who has decided to resign as a police captain, realizing that his resignation is evidence that canon can be safely averted.
Gwen decides to aid Miles, leaving Earth-65 with a bootleg portal watch Hobie left for her.
As Miles returns to his apartment here, reveals to his mother that he is Spider Man, whom she doesn't recognize. After glitching, encountering his deceased uncle Aaron Davis, and learning that his father has already died, Miles realizes that he is on Earth-42, the home world of the spider that bit him.
Aaron interrogates Miles and is joined by the Miles of Earth-42, who has become the Prowler. Miguel, Jessica, and Ben Reilly slash Scarlet Spider travel to Earth-1610 in search of Miles, just as the spot arrives and begins his attack.
After speaking with Miles' parents on Earth-1610, Gwen assembles a Spider Team to find Miles, consisting of Peter B., Mayday, Povtier, Hobie, Margot, Spider-Man Noir, Penny Parker, and Spider-Ham.
To be continued.
This is a, this is a frickin' rare movie for me. Like this is damn near on par with the first one for me.
I would say it's a, it's a touch below the first one for me. Like, don't get me wrong, like I said, this movie is, for some reason, I don't know what it was, because I, you know, I was talking to Caleb about this after I saw it.
And to me, this movie clearly feels like a middle chapter. And I know that's the plan, because this is going to be a trilogy. But to me, for the most part, I want my trilogies to, yeah, I feel like a trilogy, but I want each movie to feel like its own thing.
And when I first came out of this movie, it didn't feel like Across the Spider-Verse accomplished that for me. But at the same, but after thinking about it for a while, I feel that it actually does. And I don't, I don't know, the more that I think about this movie, the more it frickin' grows on me.
The more that I especially love what they did with Gwen, everything with Miles, even I know he was, he's getting a lot of hate, but Spider-Man 2099, I actually liked the rageful side that we got from him.
He, he, he, he wasn't out for, of course, he wasn't out for blood or anything, but he definitely played, he wanted things done by the book. And it makes complete sense why he didn't stray away from that.
So while I feel it's not as good as the first movie, like Spider-Man to the Spider-Verse is like, honestly, probably my top, my favorite animated films of all time. That movie is so frickin' great. I love that movie so much.
This sequel though, still is, it's frickin' amazing. It, like I said, it's just a tad below the first one for me. And, I mean, we'll see how it pays off in the finale when the third movie comes out.
But the cliffhanger that it leads you on, I will admit, this is like, probably like one of the biggest like, holy shit, like what, what's gonna happen next cliffhanger I've ever walked out of, of a movie.
So yeah, I, I honestly can't wait to see how they finish this trilogy.
I can't either, dude. Like you frickin' hit it right on the head with this. This was such an expertly crafted movie, in my opinion. Like from, from the beginning, like it starts off a little lighthearted to a point, obviously. But, at least when it comes to like Miles.
That's fair. I mean, dude, I was shocked that the, I felt that this was more of, do you feel that this was more Gwen's movie or do you feel it was evenly split between Miles and Gwen?
I feel it was a pretty even split.
Yeah, okay. For me, I feel it's like maybe just like a tad more Gwen. But, well, uh.
It, it, so it's, it's, I think the reason we, we feel like that is because it's kind of sandwiched. So like the opening was all Gwen and the closing was pretty much all Gwen.
That's true.
And so we kind of get that, that sandwich effect. And then like they mixed in like some, some stuff throughout. So I don't think it was one or the others. I think there was a pretty fair split. It's just, it felt maybe like it was her movie because of that sandwich effect.
I do, I, because I don't know about you, but like, did you know that it, that the movie was going to end on a cliffhanger? That like there wasn't going to be like a true ending to it?
I had a feeling.
Okay. I didn't have anything confirmed. But, I mean, because that was announced, they're like across the Spider-Verse part one, and then part two, like.
Yeah.
Okay. So this is obviously going to end on a cliffhanger. Like what that cliffhanger might be.
Who knows?
I will admit like the last five minutes, because I knew that it was ending on a cliffhanger. I'm like, okay, they can end it here. They can end it there. Okay, you guys are just going to keep going for it. Okay. You know, fair enough.
In your opinion, would you have wanted them to save the Prowler reveal or Miles Prowler reveal until the third one, or are you happy that they did it in the third, in this one?
I'm kind of happy they did it in this one.
Yeah. Okay.
There was honestly, if I had like, I was fine with how they ended it, but if like I had to pick one that I would have liked them to, would have been when his mom just like didn't know who Spider-Man was.
Like imagine if it just like faded to black like right after that.
Like right after he reveals.
That he is Spider-Man.
Would you have been like, oh, I'm Spider-Man and or I'm Spider-Man who and like which one would you.
I probably go with who I don't know. That's hard, man.
There's like so many instances like in the last five minutes, I'm just like they could have they could have done it there, there, there, there, there. I'm happy with how they ended it like great, great area to cliff hang it.
But there were definitely like parts where I'm just like, okay, you guys could have done it like any of these spots.
Yeah, I think there were. I don't know. I liked how they ended it like I like the whole miles Prowler reveal because I'm.
I'm hoping it grows on me.
Did you have you seen like anything regarding this movie on Instagram or tick tock.
Like, what do you mean.
So the so like just anything like in regards to like that reveal like like the whole like watch the hands shit like that.
No, not not not that.
Okay, then no, that's like the only thing that I've seen related.
So this is kind of like where shit gets a little crazy.
So a lot of this is going to be like in reference to the first one.
Okay.
So if you remember, he so he was not so this Miles Morales was not supposed to become a spider person.
Yes, because the Earth 42 spider got somehow transferred to the 1610 universe and bit Miles he becomes Spider-Man.
And then Earth 42 is a world without Spider-Man.
If you remember from the first movie, when like after he had gotten bit by this spider and like kind of goes to meet Spider-Man.
And they have that moment where Spider-Man is looking at him and they kind of have that spider sense ringing thing.
The colors behind Miles are purple and green, which are the colors of the Prowler.
But as they become kind of become acclimated to each other, the colors behind him shift to red and blue, which are the colors that Spider-Man had behind him.
So everyone so people what people were are theorizing is that that was the moment that changed the course for Miles.
Because if Miles didn't become Spider-Man, or he would have basically idolized his father or idolized his uncle kind of gone along the same path as his uncle.
Okay.
And so everyone was theorizing that his destiny was to become the Prowler. But when he got bit by the spider, his destiny changed into what Spider-Man are ultimate like the canon events for Spider-Man.
So his uncle dying, the captain close to him dying, like all this other stuff.
So that was like a big thing that like what we were seeing was Miles coming face to face with what his destiny was supposed to be.
Okay, I like that. That makes so much more sense.
Yeah, so that's why I'm not like, we're upset. Now you can have like this.
Like we have it, not even a full year, because it comes out in what March, March or April. The next one.
It does. I think so. It comes out early, early 2024.
God damn. Are you serious. I'm pretty sure. Like that's what I've heard people say that like it's coming out early 2024.
Like what was the what's the next one going to be called.
Isn't it like Beyond the Spider-Verse? That's it.
Yeah, so whatever Beyond the Spider-Verse is coming out. But I'm pretty sure it's like really early.
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. So it says in April 2022. So it was supposed to be across.
So OK, so it says the third film was confirmed when Lord Miller revealed in December 24 and one that the into the Spider-Verse sequel was being split into two films.
Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse Part One and Two, which was expected at the point that point to be released in 2023 in April of 2022.
It was retitled Spider-Man Beyond the Spider-Verse and given a release date of March 29th, 2024.
Hell, yeah. Damn. We're getting it that soon. Holy shit. I know. I'm freaking thrilled.
That's dude, that's sooner than we got a frickin endgame after Infinity War. Holy shit. No joke. No frickin joke, dude.
Like, damn, like the turnaround on this is ridiculous. And I be happier about it.
Yeah, I'm very curious, then, of how far into production Beyond the Spider-Verse is them.
I bet you they start they worked on this shit at the same time. That makes sense.
So I like I'm thrilled. I'm so freaking happy.
But I mean, gosh, this this was a kickass story, dude.
Like, I love like everything that they did, like even with the spot, like I thought the spot was going to be lame.
They made him so frickin sick. He was frickin intimidating.
Yeah, like I love that he kind of started off as a joke.
And then he got like he's just like, all right, like you think I'm a joke?
Frickin screw you guys. Like, watch what I'm going to I'm going to do just just to destroy you.
Like that, like that's a that's wild. Yeah. And dude, talk about his backstory, like how they linked it with into the Spider-Verse, the whole bagel thing.
And, you know, like frickin like it was funny.
But like, you know, like, honestly, they made it work. And just, yeah, really, really solid villain for this one.
Super solid. And I love that it wasn't necessarily like the main focus.
Like we knew he was kind of the the catalyst for some of the misadventures that were going to happen.
Yes. So, I mean, it's it you can't be too upset about like that because he was very much sidelined near the end.
Yeah, that is true. But I mean, I was totally fine with that.
I'm like, he's going to be the overarching. He's like they're going to come like the way that I view this is that it's going to kind of close up the story where it's going to be.
He gains the power. He's starting to mess up the world.
Miles is captured. His friends are going to go save him. And then they're still going to have to deal with the spot. Yeah.
And so like it's just I think I I hope like fingers crossed.
I mean, I I have no reason to doubt that it will be.
But I I have a feeling that Into the Spider-Verse and Beyond the Spider-Verse are going to be movies that you kind of have to watch together.
That's what I do. Like, honestly, we're and, you know, I was telling him because Caleb asked me that, you know, like how I initially felt about this one.
Because it really felt like, you know, the third one is going to what's what's going to save this one for me.
But like I said, like the more that I've thought about it, the more that I'm just like, no, this is a really good just like standalone second movie.
I mentioned he asked me, is there any like second movies that after you saw the third movie, you actually liked the second one better?
And I told him that even though I loved our already loved Halloween kills, Halloween ends made me love Halloween kills even more because they set up the final confrontation between Laurie and Michael so well.
And I feel Halloween kills, especially maybe not so much the theatrical cut, but the the the the I guess the extended cut that we got when it was released on like physical and streaming.
Where, you know, like he Laurie actually, you know, picks up the phone after or sorry, Michael actually Michael picks up the phone after Laurie tries to call Karen and no answer.
And she just says, I'm coming for you, Michael. And you get the awesome shot of her walking out of the out of the hospital knife in hand.
Like, yes, it sets up a perfect climax between Laurie and Michael. You don't. And and that got freaking blown completely destroyed in Halloween ends. And let's not talk about that.
But I definitely agree with with Caleb how he says that across the Spider-Verse and beyond the Spider-Verse are definitely going to be.
They're definitely going to probably be two movies that you are going to have to watch back to back to like fully understand and to fully link them together.
Whereas, you know, the first one is definitely standalone. And honestly, it's the same thing with Halloween 2018. We didn't need Halloween kills and ends.
We ended perfectly with Michael just in the in the basement, you know, being burned alive, Laurie and her her daughter and granddaughter drive away. They survived Michael Myers once again.
Didn't need two sequels after that.
And then with Into the Spider-Verse, you didn't need sequels with that. Yeah, you get the ending of Gwen asking Miles, like, hey, Miles, want to get out of here? You know, shit like that.
But, you know, that that could just be, you know, that's just like a fun tease like, oh, hey, you know, like what misadventures are Miles and Gwen going to get up to?
And then you're really saying, oh, yeah, there needs to be a sequel. It's got to happen. So Spider-Verse, Into the Spider-Verse can definitely stand on its own where, like Caleb said, across the Spider-Verse and Beyond the Spider-Verse are definitely two movies that you're going to have to see back to back to fully understand why they took the story here and what it truly means.
Absolutely. Like, my gosh, I freaking I love this. Like, I don't know how else to go into it. It's I loved it. It was really well done. This stuff that they helped to tie in to the first one was amazing.
Did even like the whole like spider dimension or sorry, you go.
I like I was saying was like everything that they tied in like the spider being from an alter, a different universe, which explains why it was glitchy.
Yeah. So that frickin moment, I remember when I first glist in the movie, seeing that in the theaters, dude, I remember frickin like frickin jumping for.
I know it's a stupid jump scare.
Okay. Yeah, dude, I frickin jumped. It was frickin hilarious.
Yeah. Like, oh my gosh. So frickin dude, dude, seriously, like even everything like with the Spider-Verse when you like we actually enter the Spider Society and we're seeing all these different types of Spider-Men.
It doesn't detract from the the overall story because yes, they're in the background and yeah, you know, like they throw in some, you know, a couple jokes and everything.
Oh my God. Don't get me started how we actually got Donald Glover as the frickin prowler. Oh my God. That was so frickin cool.
But all of that stuff, all those Easter eggs still does not detract from what the main story is.
And I appreciated the hell out. Dude, I'll say this, though.
And it was an odd choice making him like way bigger than everyone else.
Like, I think that's fair. They made him like normal sized. Yeah, I'll give you that.
That was definitely kind of a weird choice. Yeah. But oh my gosh, dude.
That was a cameo for the ages. Yeah, dude, seriously. That was amazing. Dude, frickin 60 Spider-Man when he's starting to swing to try to stop Miles.
Oh my God, that was amazing. Oh, so good. So, so good.
Dude, I can't wait to get into the writing about this. But gosh, this was a kickass story. It kept you engaged from like from beginning to end.
Honestly, my only complaint, and this is such a minor gripe, is maybe it got a little bit slow, like right before, like kind of at the party for his dad.
I can definitely agree with that. Most definitely. It was it was so it still had its importance, but it was so quick.
Or it wasn't like quick. It was like a little bit more drawn out than it needed to be and kind of messed with the pacing, but barely.
No, I definitely agree. I feel it needed to happen so that his mom could definitely have the character moment that she deserved. Oh my gosh. Such a good character moment, dude.
Yeah. Friggin fantastic. So I'm fricking high with the story. The question is how high?
That is also a great question. Where are you at? I would say I'm at a 96. 96 isn't bad. Gosh.
I'm going, I'm kind of cheating. I want to see what the score we gave. No, I can I can give you. Oh, I guess I'll be the asshole here. I'm going to give it 95.
What? I know, like it's just slightly lower and that's seriously just because of that one scene.
Oh, that's some bullshit. I think it's been very clear that Caleb likes this movie a little more than me. I did. But he's the asshole. I know. Fine. Fine.
Talk me up. I won't be the asshole. I'll give you a 96. Dude, I was going to say, do you want me to like meet you on your level? Do you want me to knock me down to a 95? Because I can do it.
No, I do not want to knock this down to a 95. OK. All right. Next up, we got writing, which this was so well written. Oh, dude. Oh, from beginning to fricking end, dude.
Dude, the writing, especially for Gwen. Oh, my fricking God. Hmm. Chef's kiss. Both her and Miles. Great writing. But for some reason, Gwen's writing really stuck out to me more than Miles.
Like I said, his writing is fricking fantastic, especially the fricking writing that he gets when he's being chased by all of the Spider people on the train.
And, you know, Miguel has him pinned down. And, you know, he's like saying, you know, hey, you were never supposed to be bitten. You're not supposed to be Spider-Man and everything.
But but it happened. These events that are planned for you have to happen. And Miles is just like, well, everybody keeps telling me that how my story is supposed to play out.
But you know what? I'm going to do my own thing and fricking just pulls like the most badass thing, fricking shocks Miguel and just fricking books it.
Oh, God, I love that scene so much. And the fricking dialogue is so well written in that scene. God.
Dude, I loved the fricking gotcha moment that he pulled on Miguel when he's just like, what do you think you're going to do?
Like, where do you think you're going to go? And he's just like, I don't know, but I got hundreds of Spider people away from your base.
Yoink and disappears. So good. So good.
I'm like, gotcha, son. There's so many like so like such well written jokes in this.
Do you love? No. What were you saying?
No, no, I was getting really like my favorite joke was when fricking MJ with Peter is like explaining, I think she has like a sports metaphor or something.
She's like, you get that right. He's like, I was a nerd, but I know sports.
It's them fricking just harkening back to how much of a nerdy was in high school. I fricking loved that. And I appreciated that. My favorite was when Miles was talking to his dad as Spider-Man.
And he's just like talking. He's just like, I just don't know what to do with his gettings like probably get off his ass.
He's like, what? What? Doesn't he only like get a like are like an art like he doesn't fully say ass.
He only gets like a little bit of it. I think he's that whole thing.
I don't know if he does. I know in like a later scene with Gwen's dad, he actually does say, does he say ass? I think. Does he say? Yeah.
OK. So yeah, that one was definitely. Yeah, that was definitely said ass. But I I could be wrong, but I don't think Miles fully.
Maybe he actually did. But his dad chimed in before we could fully hear it. But I did not fully hear him say ass.
I think I'm pretty sure he did. Like I might have just started laughing because I knew what he was going to say.
But speaking of how was because I don't know if you saw online, but they were they were having audio issues apparently throughout the whole opening weekend of this movie that like it was like too low for a lot of people.
Like they could be. Yeah. So apparently I think it was either I think it was the Lord or Chris Miller actually like commented on that.
And they said, like, yeah, we told theaters that they needed it to be at a seven volume wise for everybody to be able to hear the dialogue.
But they were only putting it at like a four or five. The dialogue. I didn't have any issues hearing.
I had some problems a little bit.
But I mean, it could just be because I had some annoying frickin frickin teen girls in my audience that literally just sat all the way up at the front and were like taking selfies during it.
You saw their flashlights go on a couple of times and like throughout the movie. Occasionally you could just hear them go.
Just get in what like they were. You could tell that they weren't giggling at the movie. They were giggling at something funny.
The the friend next to them said, oh, God, they were so even bother going to the movie if you're going to seriously, especially considering that you're seeing it at night and it's more expensive at night.
You're spending twelve dollars for a ticket. Why are you going to spend twelve dollars to sit in a dark room and just take pictures and chat with your friends?
Just go home and do that. Yeah.
Like it's free, less money elsewhere. Like spend that money. I frickin target you bitches. It's right around the corner.
Exactly. Exactly.
Go buy some pride stuff. Yeah.
Dude, but yeah, like the opening scene, like when when Gwen is like sitting there, like just having at it with the drums, I could barely frickin hear her drumming.
It was the same. Yeah, same with me. I was just kind of sitting there and I'm like, is it supposed to be that quiet?
Like there was like even the opening, it was just so silent for the first little while. I was just kind of like.
Like you didn't know music. Did you see it on like any like special format or did you just see it regular?
Yeah, I did. Neither. So I'm like very because one of my employees said that he saw it at like
he saw it at the Geneva Theater and they saw it in IMAX, like IMAXD or some shit like that. It's like a step above IMAX.
But yeah, he said he could hear it like crystal clear. Everything was great.
I'm like, OK, so apparently if you saw it in premium format, everything was fine.
It's just regular. Yeah. So now I wish I would have seen it in like Cinemark XD.
I know I'm I'm going to wait until until the like things start to get a little bit like more fixed.
Like I start hearing more things, but I'm going to wait. Is fixing it?
Well, no, I was going to say I don't I wouldn't if you wanted to see it on premium format like IMAX and shit,
I wouldn't wait because this is literally the only week that it add and then all of its premium screens go to Transformers.
Like do the summer movie. Oh, it is.
Do the summer movie season is so jam packed that literally all of these big budget movies only get one week in special format theaters.
Like The Little Mermaid only got one week. Freaking Spider-Verse is only getting one week.
Transformers are only get one week. Yeah, it's it's it's freaking ridiculous because you have right after Transformers.
It's the Flash. And then I think they're even going to put Barbie in the premium format screenings.
So yeah, they don't even get a freaking chance to breathe.
Like I was like I didn't get to see Guardians 3 and Cinemark XD, which I really wanted to.
But literally the week right after freaking Fast X took them all. Stupid freaking.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I've had this summer is going to be freaking nuts.
So I don't even know if I'll be able to go see this like it no matter how,
because I thought like maybe I could talk Briella and go into it, but she gets motion sickness and like she had a hard time watching the first one.
Like even do honestly, she struggled. No, dude, understandable, because, dude, I remember when I first saw the first one in theaters.
It took me a minute to get used to that animation. Like, OK, who are I going to take a minute quite jarring?
Yeah, you got to take a minute to get used to it.
And I feel that this movie cranked it up to 11 with the animation.
So I feel it was even more prominent.
And like honestly, they even did like a couple of things differently with the coloring for certain scenes with certain characters.
So if this was my first experience with this animation and not the first one into the spider verse, God, I'd hate to see how I react to this one.
Like even for me, like it kind of got tough to watch pretty early on.
Just like, OK, that's why I got taken. That's why I was experiencing it, because I'll admit I experienced a little bit of a headache halfway through.
Maybe I can blame it on the animation. Yeah, maybe.
But I mean, I'm thinking more like this is kind of ties into everything.
But I loved what they were doing in Gwen's world with her, like the background on her.
Like, did you did you notice like what they were doing?
Yeah, I did. That was super, super nuts.
And for me, that fricking enhanced what they were saying, like so fricking much.
Definitely. Absolutely.
Like they're fricking hitting us with like emotional, intense stuff.
And then it's just like accentuated by the background.
Yeah. And it's like it was I loved it.
I loved the various animation styles.
It like it definitely got to be a lot at certain points, but it was it was great.
Yeah.
So like kind of getting more into like the writing, but everything well done.
I love the conversations between Miles and his parents.
Oh, seriously. Miles and Miguel were great.
Like you kind of understood everyone's reasoning for the only one I didn't quite understand was Gwen.
And like why she was so like such a diehard for like Miguel and like the canon events and whatnot.
Like she was straight up ready to let that dude die.
The one that ended up saving.
Yeah, it's true.
I'm like, that's not very Spider-Man of you.
Considering that, you know, when she gets taken out of the Spider Society and she has the line, we're supposed to be the good guys.
It's like, oh, were you one of them earlier?
Yeah, I'm like, pick a team, lady.
Yeah.
I mean, gosh, like that was all of that was really well done.
I loved the writing just as much as the story.
But I think kind of like what you brought up with Gwen, because like it kind of is like a backhand handed thing with the writing for her character.
I think that's going to lose me a point.
So I'm going to give writing a ninety five as a power where I was thinking, too.
It's it's slightly lower.
But I mean, Gwen, it's still just as good.
Yeah.
All right.
So jumping on over to acting, we have a freaking star studded cast here.
It's a freaking ridiculous.
So we got Shamique Moore, who plays Miles Morales, Haley Steinfeld, who plays Gwen Stacy, Brian Tyree Henry, who voices Jeff Morales, Luna Lauren Velez, who plays Rio Morales, Jake Johnson, who plays Peter B.
Parker, Oscar Isaac, who voices Miguel O'Hara, Jason Schwartzman, who voices The Spot, Issa Ray, who voices Jessica Drew.
Daniel Kaluuya, who plays Hobie Brown or Spider Punk, Karan Soni, who plays Pavitier Prabhakar.
That's really hard to say.
And yeah, that's all the people of note.
Oh, apparently they got someone else to voice like the other miles.
Well, really?
Yeah.
So Jerelle Jerome voices Miles G Morales.
Interesting.
Yeah, I didn't catch that.
I didn't either.
Yeah, I thought it was still Shamir Shamique.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, guess not.
Interesting.
So I think this goes without saying, number one is Miles.
That is actually not the same for me.
Yo, what?
No, sorry. Number one for me is Haley Steinfeld.
So hit me.
Wait, what?
You are out of your mind.
How am I out of my mind?
She was just as good.
I feel like, oh, if you picked one or the other for number one, completely understandable.
I don't know, dude.
I freaking like don't get me wrong.
I loved her.
Love her to death.
But next to Shamique Moore, like tough call, tough freaking call.
Wow.
So what's your top three look like then?
OK, so number one, even though apparently it's a freaking you're out of your goddamn mind decision.
Number one is Haley Steinfeld.
Number two, I'm going to give to Shamique.
He was fantastic.
Like, don't get me wrong.
I loved him as Miles once again, but I just love Haley Steinfeld a little more.
But number three, I actually probably give to Jason Swartzman for a good call spot.
Like, I was going to give it to Jake Johnson for Peter B.
Parker because I loved him once again, but he wasn't in it that much, unfortunately, which I hated.
I wanted him in it so much more.
And I really hope he's in the third one a lot.
But I freaking loved what Jason Swartzman did with the spot and like honestly how he could change his he could honestly change his vocal tone for how we started with him being so silly when we're first introduced to him and then working our way to the ending to when like you're just like, OK, holy shit.
He can actually be a very intimidating villain.
Yeah, dude, that was the biggest freaking surprise for for me.
Right.
Balls.
So that is my top.
OK, so my number one obviously is going to be Shamique Moore as as miles.
My number two, though, I'm giving a freaking Oscar Isaac is Miguel O'Hara.
Oh, you do not just bump.
Hey, wow.
I put him above Haley Steinfeld.
The margins are ridiculously close.
But I liked Miguel just a hair more.
Like I've always kind of been a fan of of Spider-Man 2099.
And I don't know, freaking Miguel was was freaking nuts, dude.
Like how intimidating he was, how sympathetic he he ended up becoming kind of too.
A little bit kind like barely like he could almost be like an another like antagonist in this movie.
True.
I can't believe that you had him beat Spider-Gwen.
Yeah, but like it's it's barely, dude.
I love Haley Haley Steinfeld.
Considering that's a hot call.
Yeah, that's a hot call.
So you can't give me shit for putting Haley above Shamique.
We're even with that.
Oh, OK.
Fair, fair.
Just saying we're.
Yeah.
OK.
So, yeah, I freaking loved Oscar Isaac as as Miguel.
I thought he was wonderfully cast.
I absolutely agree.
So what are you what are you going to end up giving acting?
Wait, OK.
So I just want to confirm that Haley Steinfeld was your number three.
Yeah, Haley Steinfeld's number three.
OK, OK.
Acting just because I feel everyone did such a great job.
Like, I can't think of anyone that didn't bring their a game when it comes to voice acting.
You know what?
I'm going to be the same as my story.
I'm going to go 96.
Damn, I might be a little bit higher than you.
I'm like in 97.
I think the only character that I had issues with their voice acting was
maybe some of like the extra Spider-Man.
OK.
There are some that were just like a little overly goofy for me.
It's like it was in the trailer.
But what about like the scene where he's just like, what?
And then your uncle died.
Was it like those kind of that kind?
It was that the only one that like kind of made me roll my eyes but didn't really affect my score was Ben Reilly.
OK.
So he was voiced by Andy Samberg, but I thought he was so freaking funny, dude.
He was.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Although I will admit it.
What's that?
I don't want to when it comes to like the funny Spider-Man, I would get I feel.
Coran Sony's Spider-Man or what was his Spider-Man India.
Yeah, Spider-Man India.
I thought he had like the best jokes when it came to a comedic Spider-Man.
Oh, yeah.
The best.
But like Ben Reilly was was so he's one that like I had no issues with the Spider-Man India.
But Ben Reilly, he's one that I had issues with.
But I liked him just enough for him to not affect the score.
All right.
Like I love he like when he had Miles in like a freaking death lock, he's just like, I got you like pinned with my muscles that you can't quite.
They're quite like a little unrealistic and they're purport like proportionally impossible muscles.
Oh, shit.
And then he's like he's like adjusting himself when he's like trying to spy on Miles and he's just like sits perfect.
He's like perfect pose.
It's like you're so stupid.
Yeah, I freaking love you.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
But yeah, Spider-Man India was the bomb.
And Spider-Punk ended up being like really freaking cool, too.
Dude, freaking when he takes off his mask and freaking Miles is just like, how do you look even cooler without your mask on?
He's got a point.
Kids got a point.
He really did.
Dude, I freaking loved his commentary like when when Mayday is just like crawling around and she's like he's like your kids an anarchist crapping on society.
Or that like the big hole appears.
He's just like it's or what's it just something about capitalism.
Yeah.
Like it's a symbol of capitalism.
It's a big asshole eating up the universe.
The asshole.
But I freaking love it's one of those things I'm like you're such a douche, but I freaking love you for it.
Yeah, right.
So good.
He was great.
I love that no one really paid him any mind.
So when he was just like, yeah, I quit.
I'm out.
I'm like, no one heard you, dude.
Yeah, no one batted an eye.
Oh, yeah, Fragon loves him.
So moving on over to character development.
What are you thinking with with the development of Miles?
Fantastic.
I mean, they literally just built off the what we got from him in the first one and just honestly just pushed it up to an eleven.
I loved his character development so much in this movie.
Just seeing him struggle with, you know, wanting to be Spider-Man, but also not wanting to have to deal with the circumstances.
What is set in stone for what has to happen when you're Spider-Man and him wanting to stray away from that and be his own his own version of Spider-Man was absolutely freaking fantastic.
His struggle with, you know, his parents just trying to, you know, still make them proud, but do his own thing, especially, you know, with his dad and know everything that was leading up to that and the chance that he might die in his universe, which considering that he ends up in another universe where his dad is already dead.
Freaking mind F right there.
That was insane.
But yeah, I know for yeah I freaking loved the character development like you said they built they took what an amazing character he was in into the Spider-Verse and just freaking cranked it up to an eleven and gave him even more character development.
Loved it.
Yeah.
Dude, it's, it's interesting the the like the contrast between like previous Spider-Man that we've seen, and, and obviously with Miles to, but, and then like seeing the parallels between the stories like the contrast between this version and other Spider-Man is when like it's kind of like
rehashing of Spider-Man 2 for me.
Ooh, that's a good point. I like that.
Yeah, because it's it's it's Peter or it's Peter slash miles dealing with attempting to manage both sides of his life trying to manage the Peter Parker and the Spider-Man and with miles trying to be miles Morales and Spider-Man at the same time.
Yeah.
And so dealing with that being unsuccessful. And it seems like that's something that all spider people deal with where it's like, I can do both.
And it's everyone everyone's got like eventually gets to the point where they realize like no I can't. And so seeing that and then like I said the parallels between the story of both what miles was dealing with with his parents pushing for him to pursue a future with a.
That's like more local kind of pushing him into what they think his future should look like for and then Miguel pushing him like this is what your future is, it is set in stone like this is what all spider people have to deal with.
And you like suck it up.
And in both of those stories he's like, no, like, there's another way.
Or if it if there isn't like I'm going to find out by myself like I don't need you telling me that.
Yeah.
So I freaking loved both of those stories, so freaking much.
And it just, it showed that he were maybe he didn't necessarily like he knew what he wanted.
It was just demanding that from people.
Yeah.
So I thought he was handled excellently.
I'm probably probably somewhere around like a 91 for character development though.
I can match it there.
Like I, yeah, like maybe there are some issues here and there not too many but.
All right, going on over to effects.
I will fight you.
I will fight you if you want to give it anything less than 100.
You weren't going to have to fight me whatsoever.
And I feel like you knew that I am absolutely.
I just want to make sure 100.
Even though this movie kind of hurt my brain at times.
Fair. Same.
And the like this is a movie that I'm going to have to watch multiple times to freaking get everything that they shot at us.
Yeah, it is dude like literally just freeze framing every single area of the Spider Society.
So you can see every single little thing that is in the background because apparently someone took was able to get a screenshot.
And you like all the way in the background of one scene you can actually see like a freaking Spider-Man popsicle just floating in the air.
I was like that's that's hilarious.
It's awesome.
I love it.
I love that we got to see like all the different variations of Spider-Man other than do we see Tom?
No, we did not.
I didn't think so.
I like we saw we saw Toby. We saw Andrew.
We saw PS4.
We saw spectacular Spider-Man.
I didn't see the 90s Spider-Man.
Yeah, I was kind of disappointed with that.
I was really hoping we see the 90s Spider-Man.
Like we do for all we know we could have.
That's true.
Yeah.
When this comes when this comes out on digital, you know, just going screen screenshot by screenshot and finds there is.
Yeah, I'm do that.
It's no joke.
That's a scene that I'm going or I'm going to be like have it paused and just go frame by frame.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I didn't see 90s Spider-Man.
There's a few different Spider-Man that we didn't see.
But I mean, at least someone like the big ones, I'm glad that we got to so like it was it was just jam packed.
And do one thing seriously.
One thing that I really appreciated is that they didn't use the multiverse to like hit us in the nostalgia.
Yeah, I did appreciate that a lot.
Yeah, I love that they used it just enhance the story around it instead of like, oh, look at like here.
You remember this guy?
Remember this guy?
That's why I'm kind of like glad that some of these people were like kind of thrown in the background.
Yeah, same here.
Like there was definitely something like the spectacular Spider-Man being like in the forefront.
Like that was nice to see.
But yeah, like it wasn't like Andrew wasn't like a big staple.
Toby wasn't like a main staple.
Like they were showing off all the different Spider-Man dealing with all this different shit.
Yeah.
And just it's like, how do we best portray that?
Obviously, like one of these other Spider-Man dealt with this and like, oh, this Spider-Man dealt with this.
Like we could show him that I that's what I really appreciate.
It was just beautifully shot.
I love the different animation styles.
Like I thought this was going to look awkward and kind of all grouped together, but it ended up working really well.
It really did.
It looks so fucking good.
The only the only things I had issues with, at least in terms of like how things kind of flow together, was live action characters.
Fair.
In some instances, they did look out of place.
Yeah.
Like I like with freaking giant giant prowler like that was just like that's weird.
Yeah.
Agreed.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
Hundred hundred around the board with that one.
All right. Music.
This was a dope ass freaking soundtrack.
Dude, seriously, and I know a lot of I mean like saw in that a TikTok comment how they brought up Spider-Man 2099's music.
Yeah, dude.
Freaking amazing.
Like, oh my God.
Because whenever like all of a sudden you.
Sorry.
It had prowler vibes.
Dude.
Yes.
Seriously.
Like all of a sudden you just be walking your bar.
Oh God, that's so bad ass.
That.
Oh my gosh.
Such a good soundtrack, dude.
Sorry.
Good soundtrack.
And then like the the songs that they play like I.
This is one.
The soundtrack was damn near perfect.
The only thing missing was just one like a super catchy song.
I honestly wish that they could have worked in Sunflower again into this because I feel that the first one is so well known for it and just I don't know.
I kind of missed it in this one.
Yeah.
So I don't know about you.
If you're like out of 10 or not, but I'm not quite there.
I'm sitting in a solid nine.
I'm not either.
Yeah.
Same here.
All right.
So for an animated movie, this is more character design and whatnot.
Yeah, exactly.
Bra fan.
Freaking.
They improved on everything.
Dude.
Seriously.
Like, oh my.
Like, I didn't think that they could improve on the freaking texture or animation that they had on like literally all the spider suits, especially Gwen and Miles.
But they did it.
The texture is insane for how it how it looked on those those spider costumes.
They were so freaking good.
I loved Miles new suit.
Like, even though everyone is giving them a hard time, like, oh, you bleeding out your armpits.
So good, though.
Yeah, so I hope that they do follow up and are like, yeah, we'll get you a new suit.
At least what Peter B.
Parker said.
Yeah, yeah, like, we'll get you a new suit.
Don't worry.
But I really hope with Peter B.
Parker, like, I don't know what it was.
I was not a fan of him wearing that robe.
Dude, they overdid it.
Yeah, what pants were enough?
I would have been fine if he just had the class.
Yeah, if he would have just had the sweatpants again, I'd have been fine with it.
But yeah, the robe was a little too much.
And then the freaking bunny slippers.
Wait, did he have slippers?
Yeah, he freaking had the bunny slippers over his damn spider boots.
OK, yeah, that's what.
Yeah, like, come on.
Like, don't make Peter Parker more of a joke than people already think he is.
But she's not.
Yeah, dude.
If you want to show us like disgruntled dad, like Spider Dad, all you had to do was have him wear the freaking baby Bjorn.
Like, that would have been more than enough for me.
Like, have him wear that with a freaking, like, diaper bag.
Yes.
Yeah, that went just fine.
Yeah, you didn't need the freaking robe.
You didn't need the like, was he wearing sweatpants?
Uh, I don't think he was, actually.
OK, so it was just the robe?
I'm going to see if there is a clear picture.
OK, but I know I know there was the bunny slippers and I know that there was the robe.
Both of those 100 percent unnecessary.
Yes.
Um, honestly, I wish that he would have just been in his suit more.
Like just the plain old suit.
I know, I agree.
OK, so he actually had so he had a character poster.
And so, ah, dang it.
No, it's not going to show you bastards.
So it actually so he didn't.
OK, so this is how it was.
So his slippers were like the slip.
The they were kind of like slipper sandals because he was wearing like straight up white socks over his Spider-Man shoes.
And yeah, right.
But so, yeah, he wasn't wearing he wasn't wearing sweatpants.
It was just you could still see just as classic like Spider-Man blue outfit.
But yeah, yeah, they went too much.
They really did.
Yeah, way too much to too far.
Yeah, but he was such a minor part.
Friggin Miguel suit was the the fricking shit.
Oh, yeah, dude, his was killer.
So good.
Spider Gwyn looked awesome.
Spider Woman looked awesome.
I wish she was.
I do, too.
I freaking love that they like what they did with her, like the the the race swapping.
Yeah, that was fantastic.
That was great.
Loved it.
Yes, I'm so glad they did that.
Like it just added like a really fun character.
I'm not saying that that she's not fun or whatever.
Like normally, it's just.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, no, no, I get you.
I think of anyone else that like stood out or Spider Punk was the was the bomb.
Spider Man India got a fricking upgrade from God himself.
Dude, have you seen like others like Spider Man India?
No, this is my first introduction to Spider Man India.
So Spider Man India normally he is seriously just in like just a normal Spider Man like red and blue Spider Man suit with like big Aladdin tight pants.
OK.
That's basic like that's comic accurate Spider Man India.
So what they gave us a huge improvement.
Yeah, definitely agree.
I mean, I guess I can't agree because, you know, never seen it, but I'll take your word for it.
Do one thing I wish that they would have been a little bit more clear on was if he had webbing or not.
Yeah, that's because it it seemed like he was using his his be servers as like a yo-yo.
And I thought that maybe that was like his webbing.
Yeah, I was like super unclear.
Yeah, no, that's that's a very good point.
But I mean, despite my issues, like he looked incredible.
Yeah, he really did incredible.
Oh, yeah.
So I don't know about you. I'm at a fricking 10 with this one.
Oh, yeah. Easy.
All right. Last up, we got our own personal score.
You want to take this one?
Yeah, absolutely.
So yeah.
Wow. Sorry. I had a huge brain fart.
I'm really sorry.
So overall, this movie has definitely gotten better the more that I thought about it.
Honestly, I'm grateful that I had a couple of days to sit on it because my score just got higher and higher, honestly,
because this is a great middle chapter in what I hope is one of the best superhero, superhero trilogies that we we ever get.
We are given amazing character development for not only Miles, but for Gwen, the Spider Society.
The whole Spider-Verse is taken to great new heights and done very, very well.
Just every character that we get introduced to here has a purpose of being there and none of them are wasted.
Just such a such a great second movie. And I seriously cannot wait to see where they go after this one.
So for me personally, I think I'm going to give this.
I think I'm going to go a 90. I'll go a 95.
Yeah, I have a real hard time disagreeing with that.
Like, I think I'm out of the 95 as well.
Actually, you know what? I think I'm around a 97.
I had this is one of my favorite animated movies of all time, with the first one being like right up there with it.
Like I had an absolute blast. The movie was emotional. It was funny.
It was everything you want out of a Spider-Man film straight up.
And the hype for this, I thought was maybe a little overdone, but it was well deserved.
Yeah, it really was. And honestly, I was afraid of how the reviews were going to be because it felt like they were lifting the embargo a little a little late.
I felt. And maybe it's just because I remember when the first one came out, they lifted the embargo, I think like a month before it came out.
So it got people to see just how great this movie was and get them a little more interested in it.
But yeah, it definitely was. It was definitely worth the wait.
And it definitely deserved the reviews and praise that it got.
Absolutely. I think with the first one, why maybe they released or the embargo so early was to help build up hype.
And the reason they waited so long for this one is because the movie didn't really need it.
Everyone knew how good it was. It's true. I love that.
So the first one, unfortunately, didn't do that well in theaters. Like, you know, it only made like 30 something million dollars salty.
No, I'm sorry. It's like 300 million. I think like 300. Is that 30, dude? Yeah, dude.
Yeah, right. But it definitely found its stride on Netflix.
And so you can definitely tell that, you know, when the sequel was finally announced and it was and it finally came out,
the people that backed that movie showed up for this one for how amazing the opening was for this movie.
Did you see the fricking numbers that this movie opened with?
It was fricking ridiculous numbers, wasn't it? Yeah.
So it was I think the second highest opening of the year just behind the Super Mario Bros movie.
Yeah, it was that make me so fricking happy. Yeah, it's same here.
So Disney, Disney doesn't stand a fricking chance.
No, the best animated of the year. No.
So it earned 120 million just domestically worldwide, 208 million for its first weekend.
Can't help that. That's actually a little lower than what I thought or than what I assumed it got,
because I was thinking at least domestically that it was around like one twenty five ish.
That no, that's fair. I mean, I honestly didn't expect it to get that high, but I'm so glad it did.
Because, yeah, they're saying it was roughly three times as much as the opening of the first film.
Dude, I wonder if how if how crammed this summer is, if that's going to affect the box office at all.
Dude, I hope not. I really hope a lot of people are saying that this movie is going to have legs.
And I really hope it does, because I want this movie to get to the billion dollar club so much.
But I'm scared that it won't just because of how crowded this this summer movie season is.
And honestly, it really makes me question why didn't some of these movies like come out in April?
Why did they just leave April all to the Super Mario Bros. movie? Like I I'm happy they did.
I'm happy for how successful it's been.
Nintendo was just singing everyone else's praises. They're just like, thank you for making us.
No, seriously, I mean, I don't I think I told you already it beat Frozen.
So now it's number two. So it's frozen. Yeah, Frozen two is number one.
And now Frozen are now Super Mario is number two, which is I feel like I get the Disney wanted to release,
you know, for Memorial Day with the Little Mermaid.
But I feel that it could have still done very well if they would have released it in April.
Oh, yeah, I think it would have for in sword in April.
Yeah, especially if it would have released it around like spring break time.
Perfect timing for it. What do we know?
So, yeah, like I said, yeah.
So like I said, I am giving it a ninety seven.
So with that, that wraps up this week's breakdown.
Going through the categories real quick, starting off with story.
We ended up both giving it a ninety six. We are actually pretty in.
Agreeance with most of this, so it was a ninety six in story, a ninety five in writing,
ninety six and a half in acting, character development was the lowest score we gave sitting at a ninety one.
Effects absolutely gave it up one hundred.
The music was a nine just because the scores were incredible.
The costumes or just character designs were ten.
And then our personal score averaged out to a ninety six.
So with that, the final Albrose letter grade for Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse has come out to a.
It cracked in a yes.
That's what it is.
It was a it's a half point higher than like our cut off for an A.
Actually, that's not true. Cut off for an A is ninety four.
This end up getting a ninety five point five six.
That's awesome.
Well, that makes me so happy. Well, well deserved.
Yeah, straight up. Oh, that's so awesome, dude.
Please. Oh, I'm freaking over the moon about that.
That's freaking. Yeah. Awesome.
It's him here. So, oh, boy.
Well, this is going to be controversial.
Oh, God. All right.
So going what it is above first. So like I said, this is a ninety five point five six.
That puts it above Bohemian Rhapsody, which is at ninety five.
It is above the Ballad of Buster Scruggs, which is at ninety four point six two.
It is above Avengers Endgame, which is at ninety four point zero six. Oh, shit.
It is above War of the Planet of the Apes, which is at a ninety three point one two.
Fair. I'll take it.
And then finally, it is above Avengers Infinity War, which is at a ninety two point nine.
Damn. This is where we're going to get freaking dice deep.
So it ended up below Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three.
I'm OK with that. Sorry. I liked volume three still a little more.
Still my favorite superhero movie of the year.
Don't get me wrong. I love to cross the spider verse, but Guardians three is still my favorite.
And it is below Spider-Man. No way home.
Yeah. Yeah. People are going to get mad at us for that.
They are going to get real pissy about that. Oh, shit.
Oh, but, dude, that means it got it got above into the spider verse.
That's awesome. Yeah. So it's score.
So it's a three percent difference into the spider verse, got a ninety two point five nine.
Where across the spider verse, got a ninety five point five six.
Damn. That's freaking awesome, though.
Yeah. So I'm not unhappy.
I'm not either. Yeah, I'm not either.
So so like I said, it might be a controversial take for some people, but not for us.
Exactly. We apologize for nothing.
No, we do not. Not one little thing.
All right. Well, I believe that wraps up this week's headliner.
We had an absolute blast. Yes, we did.
Testing something out a little bit.
I think we have some maybe some connection issues we need to figure out.
But other than that, like this might be a regular thing for us.
Yeah. So anyway.
Next week, you guys can look forward to us breaking down Transformers Rise of the Beast.
Yeah, Caleb's gone.
He's just me.
Right, bro. Yeah, there he is.
Oh, don't know what happened there.
Yeah, dude. That I like refreshed.
What the fuck? OK, interesting. Yeah, I was like, no, I did not.
Hopefully that doesn't frickin jack up our upload.
Yeah, it do.
Moving on. Yeah. Anyway.
So next week, you guys can look forward to the.
Yeah, let's break down Transformers.
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Guys, next week, this is so long.
I'm trying to a new voice. I'm trying to a new voice, man.
What? Frickin Carl Weiser having. Yeah, exactly.
Judy will be mine.
That one was half bad. OK, yeah, good.