What up bros welcome to the All Bros Podcast.
I'm Caleb and I'm Jon and we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch
and critique movies but also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast we got not a whole ton but we got a decent amount of new pop
figures to talk about, one new blu ray and then we're going to skip straight into the
main event of the evening because we don't got jack shit to talk about.
And our main event this week is going to be our 150th special of the Marvel's Avengers
video game breakdown.
So hell yeah.
For those of you that don't know, every 50 episodes we try to do a video game breakdown.
For our first 50th episode we talked about the PS4 Spider-Man, for episode 100 we broke
down Red Dead Redemption 2, and for this one being our third installment of these 50 episode
breakdowns we're doing Marvel's Avengers.
So with that let's get into it.
I'm Levy and together we co-host a movie podcast called Film on the Rocks.
On our movie podcast we like to have fun with movies and we don't like to break down movies
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drink every time Vince Vaughn stuffs his face in Wedding Crashers.
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Alrighty, first up in Adventures in Hunting, we got some new pop figures we're going to
talk about.
First one that we're going to discuss is the Target Exclusive Bumble Bee.
Yes, so this one has already gone live.
I don't know how well it's sold, but it's based off of...
So this was for the Funko Fridays thing that they did.
This is based off of, I'm pretty sure, the original show.
So it's not based off of Michael Bay's version.
Yeah, it kind of has that retro toys vibe.
It does.
So I think they just took this Target Exclusive and made it an exclusive because Bumble Bee
is a fan favorite.
It's true he is.
He very much is.
And I can't say I blame people because Bumble Bee is awesome.
Yeah, Bumble Bee's pretty killer.
I really like this figure.
I mean obviously I like all the Transformers ones, but this one's like... it's just nice
to look at.
I like a basic design, but just visually it looks really good.
If I compare the two Target Exclusives they've done from what I've seen, I would take Starscream
over Bumble Bee.
But maybe that's just because I'm a Septicon fanboy.
I just think they're a lot cooler.
I think they are, all the freaking Autobots, Bumble Bee and Optimus are the standout ones,
but everyone else is just like a car of some sort.
All the freaking Decepticons are badass figures.
Starscream is a freaking fighter jet.
How more badass can you get than that?
I think Bonecrusher has the most badass one.
I'll give you that.
What does Megatron turn into?
I always forget.
It's kind of fluctuated.
He turned into a Cybertron plane, or jet or whatever, and then he turned into a tank I
think as the movies went along.
Okay, that's what I'm remembering.
Megatron is pretty cool, but I also think Megatron is a bit of a bitch.
Damn.
How rude.
So, so rude.
Anyway, so that covers that figure, if you want to check that out.
It's at Target.
Next up we got a new line of Marvel zombies.
Yes, Caleb's favorite line.
We all know it's Caleb's favorite, come on.
Oh yeah, freaking can't get enough of these Marvel zombies.
He already has all the Hulks.
He can't wait to get this other Hulk that's in this line as well.
He's just so stoked, guys.
Like, he's over the moon.
I hope you guys are understanding the sarcasm in his voice.
I freaking hate these figures.
No, it's not sarcasm, I promise you guys.
I am truly being truthful.
Caleb loves these figures.
Wink, wink.
Anyway, so what figures are we getting in this line?
So in this line we are getting classic Thor zombie.
So it's not MCU zombie.
Wow, it's not MCU Thor.
He looks as if he just stepped right out of the comics.
And then we're also getting Gambit, Doctor Doom, Red Hulk, and Modok.
The Red Hulk actually looks badass.
The Red Hulk does look pretty good.
I don't hate, absolutely despise these figures.
It's just I don't care for them.
I don't care for collecting them.
That's fair.
I get that.
The reason I'm so bitter towards them is because there's a Hulk or a zombie Hulk.
And I've been debating whether or not to get that one.
But then they came out with a 10 inch version of it and I'm like, do I?
But I don't think I want that Hulk.
So there's a lot of Hulk figures out there and I think that's just one of the ones I
don't want.
And it's going to bug me when I do freaking get them all that I don't have all of them.
That will seriously be one that I will maybe, like soft, soft maybe, I might pick up if
I do end up collecting all of the other Hulk figures that I want.
Otherwise probably not.
Or you know, just look out for one or two for your birthday.
Dude, if anyone gets me a zombie Hulk, I will punch them in the throat.
Okay fine, I'll just get you all bros merchandise, jeez.
That's become our thing.
Yeah, I was just about to bring that up.
It's kind of funny that literally, I feel for Christmas I'm kind of different, but for
Caleb with Christmas, birthday and then me for birthday, we always get each other some
type of all bros merchandise, whether it be a shirt, a hoodie, a mug.
I don't think we've done a pillow yet, have we?
No we've not done a pillow.
I think that's just because we wear hoodies and shirts more than, like I don't like those
small pillows.
That's fair.
Like if it was like a pillow case, like I'd probably be down for that, but just like a
pillow, because it's more like a throw pillow.
Yeah.
And I don't really use throw pillows all that much.
Birthday idea for Caleb.
Just saying.
Yeah.
There's a lot of other all bros stuff that I would rather have.
Okay really quickly, while we're on the subject, I just want to give like a huge, even though
he's right here, I'm giving a huge shout out to Caleb for giving me one of the best Christmas
presents I've ever gotten.
He made, so he made an all bros shirt that has my last name on one side and then the
all bros logo on the front, on the other side, none on the back.
He made the, he finally made the official logo for Reading with Rose and you know I'm
going to post a picture of it on our Instagram and Facebook because it's amazing.
He did an amazing job and I love it so much.
He almost got me teared up.
It was so funny.
It was so good.
I loved it so much.
But yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Caleb.
I really appreciated you doing that.
Yeah, no problem, man.
Yeah, I changed the logo a little bit on the front.
Yeah, I kind of noticed that.
Yeah, so if you guys have seen our logo, our old logo, because now I kind of made it look,
or the all bros look a little bit more metallic.
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah, but for the shirt, because I can't get a good like metallic gradient and it would
just kind of end up looking like a smear.
I changed it so all of the lettering is red, is just a solid red instead of that weird
skyscape or cityscape that we had in the background.
So that's what I ended up doing.
I changed it to a solid red color and I think it ended up looking pretty good.
Looks amazing.
Yeah, so the good things to know for future reference.
Yes, so along with, okay, so should I post that picture like the day that I post about
adventures and hunting or should I just post it randomly?
I think.
Either or.
Okay.
But expect that picture soon, guys, because it's amazing.
I love it so much.
Yeah, and I'll make that available on T public.
Dude, I'll bet you money that Sammy's dad is going to want to buy it.
Dead serious.
I'll bet you money that Sam is going to buy a reading with Rose t-shirt.
That would be awesome.
Alright.
Anyway.
So.
Marvel zombies.
Yes.
So Caleb, you're going to have to help me out with some of these because I don't know
all these characters or at least wait.
Okay, maybe I do.
Okay.
So first up, we have an FYE exclusive mystique zombie.
Next up, them being basic as hell.
They could have just made this the chase.
The box lunch exclusive gambit that glows in the dark.
It's the exact same pose, but whatever.
And then a Funko Shop limited edition.
I want to say this is Moon Knight and Caleb, I'm going to flip my camera just to see if
you.
It is Moon Knight.
Okay.
And then the one below that is that She-Hulk?
Yep.
Okay.
So Moon Knight's a Funko Shop exclusive and then She-Hulk is going to be a Hot Topic exclusive.
And then, oh shit, what is?
Rogue.
Yeah, Rogue.
See, I suck at X-Men.
And she will be a GameStop exclusive.
Yeah, they're okay.
They're Marvel zombies.
It's just a zombie-vite version of your favorite characters.
They haven't done mine yet.
What the hell?
Dude, I'm surprised that they haven't done more Hawkeye.
Yeah, for real though.
Have you?
Like.
Really quickly.
Okay, have you played, I mean I know we're going to be talking about Avengers, but have
you played any of the Kate Bishop storyline?
Nope.
Have you seen any of the clips at all?
Some.
Have you seen anything?
Not all of them.
Have you seen anything with Clint?
Like, what happens at the end?
Yes.
Okay, so then you know the part where they're all sitting around on the couch and what Tony
says to them?
That might have to wait until later.
If you're going to spoil it.
No, it wouldn't be spoiling it.
But I was just wondering if...
I don't remember what he said.
Okay.
But it kind of goes with what you just said.
It was kind of Square Enix being like, okay everybody shut the hell up.
Sounds about right.
Yeah.
Anyway, so after those, we have a SpongeBob, a new SpongeBob Funko Pop coming out.
He's going to be a box, no, a Hot Topic exclusive.
And this is when he's trying to get ripped and so he has, he's weightlifting a stuffed
bear and a stuffed bunny.
And it's freaking fantastic.
I freaking love this thing.
This is a good figure.
I think if this were, if the store was still open, I'm pretty sure this would be a Toys
R Us exclusive.
It just kind of feels like it would.
I mean, it might be a Toys R Us exclusive in Canada.
Considering that they still have them there.
You better hope not, unless you want it.
No, I'm good.
Like I said, man, I hardly collect Funko Pops anymore.
I can't remember the last time I bought a Funko Pop.
It's been that long.
Honestly, I can't either.
All mine are still put away in a box right next to my desk.
Yeah.
I need to put mine out though.
You do.
I'm afraid some of them are going to get jacked up.
Yeah.
Well.
Yeah, so that pretty much covers all of the pop figures.
Moving over to Blu-rays, we got one new release coming out.
Yes.
And that is Liam Neeson's new movie called Honest Thief.
And I find it funny that the tagline, it's kind of like a rip off of Taken.
It says, never steal a man's second chance.
Like you literally could just put, for Taken, just put never steal a man's daughter or kid,
whatever.
Yeah, I saw some bits and pieces of this movie.
Thoughts?
Not impressed?
I'm not impressed.
Damn.
Yeah, unfortunately.
I think Liam Neeson's good, but everyone else around him I feel is kind of overacting.
And there is a lot, at least from what I saw, there's a lot of bad effects in it.
Oh shit.
Okay.
Well then I probably will not be watching it.
Yeah, probably not.
So yeah, so if you want to go see that movie, go, I would red box it first.
Yeah.
Or wait for it to come to streaming.
Yeah, I'm sure it will probably be on Netflix within a couple months.
Yeah, so yeah, I think that covers everything in news today.
Yeah, I believe that is it.
Yeah.
I'm not sure that's a new record for us to get to the main event, but pretty close.
Why what are we at?
Like 17 minutes.
Oh shit, wow.
Yeah.
So anyway, without further ado, let's get into the main event of the evening.
Let's do it.
Time for the main event.
It's main event time.
Let's play a game.
Alrighty, before we get into the actual breakdown, we did post a question of the week and we
got some responses.
So the question that we posted was, which Avenger would you like to play as in a video
game?
And so we got our first ever response.
I think it's our first ever response to our question on Facebook.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Yeah, from our good friend Vic over at Crash and Taz's movie seller.
So he said, first, Spider-Man, always Spider-Man.
And anyone who's listened to our previous breakdowns of anything Spider-Man, you know
that Vic is a Spider-Man junkie.
So not super surprised.
But he also said, second, why am I not going to be in this episode?
And Vic, it's because you don't play video games.
Yeah.
Because although you could have just watched the whole thing or all of the cut scenes on
YouTube, it wouldn't have been the same.
You wouldn't have gotten the full effect.
Oh, I probably should have suggested that.
Oh.
Well, good going, Caleb.
Yeah, I know, right?
So Vic, if you're going to get mad at either of us, just get mad at Caleb.
It's all his fault.
I'll take that blame.
Oh, shit.
Moving on over to Instagram, we got a response from the Dynamic Duel Podcast at Dynamic Duel
Podcast.
They said, I think Falcon would have some cool levels.
Hell yeah, that would have been awesome.
Maybe in the future.
Absolutely.
A few things, though.
OK.
So Falcon does not fly like Iron Man.
That is true.
He does not.
And he does not fly like Thor.
He's very acrobatic in the way that he does fly.
They would have to do some crazy improvement to the flight mechanics, which we'll get into
in our breakdown.
But I think if they were to improve the flight mechanics to Falcon, Falcon would be so much
fun to play as.
I mean, I don't know if we're even going to get all the DLC that we were promised.
We're probably not.
I think we're getting Kate Bishop, we're getting Hawkeye, and that's it.
Yeah.
Yeah, after Clint, I think they're done.
Unless they have everything ready.
If they have everything ready to go, then I do think that we might see some new characters.
If I had to bet, I'm betting we're going to see Hawkeye for sure.
Pretty sure we're going to see Black Panther.
Because they did a big announcement on that.
And I think they're going to believe it at that.
No, they did one for Black Panther before the game was released.
Oh yeah, they did.
Yeah.
And then I think PlayStation users are still going to get Spider-Man.
Yeah, suck it.
I'm kidding.
We'll get into it, but after this game, I could give two shits.
Fine, damn.
Yeah, and then last we got a response from our friend Sammy at Flamingale5.
She said, hmm, I'm sure I can guess Jonathan's.
I feel attacked.
I'm just going to say that right now.
It's just because you're so freaking obvious about everything.
Thank you, Sammy.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
I feel like I should have worded this a bit different.
Because playing as an Avenger is one thing.
I should have reworded it to more ask what Avenger would make for a really fun video
game.
Like, a single standalone.
Yeah, my answer is still the same, Hawkeye.
I think you could have a lot of fun with Hawkeye.
I think you could also have a lot of fun with Black Widow.
I think you could have a lot of fun with all of these people.
Good.
Yeah, it's just the way that this was.
Get into it.
We will get into it.
Calm down.
Just breathe.
Yeah.
So anyway, thank you to everyone that answered our question of the week.
We really appreciate all of your responses.
Even though, thanks, Sammy, I feel attacked.
So with that, we will get into our actual breakdown of this video game.
And for those of you who have never listened to one of our one or any of our video game
breakdowns before, we have split video games into 10 different categories that we individually
grade to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
So the categories that we are going to grade are story, writing, voice acting, character
development, which in this case could be team development.
Oh, no, it could be character development.
Okay.
So graphics, music, gameplay, main missions, side quests, and then at the very end we give
it our own personal grade.
So with that, let's get into the story.
Get ready for another amazing installment of reading with Rose.
With two E's.
Yep.
All right.
So on A day, five members.
I love how they have to point out the Hawkeye is not there.
I just love that.
Five members of the Avengers, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, and Hulk celebrate
the unveiling of a second headquarters in San Francisco and their own helicopter, the
Chimera powered by a Terran crystal.
However, the ceremony is interrupted by a terrorist attack led by Taskmaster, resulting
in most of San Francisco and the Chimera being destroyed and Captain America's apparent
death.
The Terran crystals destruction also produces Terran mist, which turns countless people
into inhumans blamed for the tragedy.
The Avengers disband five years later.
Superheroes have been outlawed while a science based corporation called AIM led by former
Avengers scientist, George Tarleton, takes the Avengers place in society.
They established a virtual police state in the country promising to find a cure for what
is dubbed the inhuman disease at her home in Jersey City.
Teenage inhuman Kamala Khan discovers damaged video footage apparently revealing Tarleton
locking Captain America in the reactor room before it exploded.
She is soon contacted by Tiny Dancer, a member of a resistance movement against AIM who warns
her that AIM has tracked her down.
She attempts to meet Tiny Dancer at Heroes Park but is captured by AIM scientist Monaco
and brought to Tarleton, who was mutated following his exposure to the Terran mist.
Tarleton and Rapacene try to convince her that AIM wants to help her understand and
control her inhuman abilities but Kamala escapes and makes her way to Utah to find the resistance.
Kamala's search brings her to the Chimera's hidden wreckage in which she finds Hulk who
attacks her before reverting back into Bruce Banner.
She shows him the footage and eventually convinces him to assist her in proving the Avengers
innocence despite his reluctance.
According to a former SHIELD compound to retrieve Jarvis, the two are confronted by AIM and
one of their operatives, the Abomination.
Hulk defeats him before he and Kamala return to the Chimera to reactivate Jarvis and set
out to reunite the Avengers.
Starting with Tony Stark.
While they find Stark at his family estate, he is reluctant to help as Banner's testimony
of Ada incriminated the Avengers.
Upon learning of Kamala's evidence, Stark agrees to join them and works to restore the Chimera.
Amidst their search for parts to help him, Kamala and Banner stumble upon the Ant Hill,
an inhuman sanctuary, and the Resistance's headquarters run by Dr. Hank Pym.
While assisting them, Kamala disobeys orders and attempts to raid AIM prison on her own
to rescue inhumans but is captured.
While in custody, she learns Rapacini's efforts to make an inhuman cure were unsuccessful,
leading Tarleton to prioritize the manufacturing of Adaptoids.
Having worked undercover with AIM, Romanoff infiltrates the facility, captures Rapacini
and frees Kamala, revealing she is Tiny Dancer.
Banner attempts to interrogate Rapacini about the Adaptoid lab's whereabouts but she resists
before AIM forces attack and retrieves her.
Witnessing the attack, Thor intervenes and rejoins the Avengers.
However, Jarvis restores the footage which shows Captain America ordering Tarleton to
seal him inside so he can destroy the reactor, apparently causing the explosion.
Believing AD really was their fault, the Avengers fragment.
While reviewing the interrogation, Kamala realizes AIM's Adaptoid lab is on their satellite
and relays this information to the Avengers, rallying them with a heartfelt speech.
Stark upgrades his suit to achieve space travel and infiltrate the satellite, where he discovers
Rapacini, put Captain America in suspended animation so she could harvest his blood and
use it to power the Adaptoids and covertly accelerate Tarleton's mutation.
Thor helps his fellow Avengers escape, during which Captain America reveals he destroyed
the reactor because it was unerving something underneath the bay that threatened to destabilize
the San Andreas Fault and destroy California.
Meanwhile, Tarleton discovers what Rapacini has done to him and seemingly kills her.
Reassembled, the Avengers deduce Rapacini hired Taskmaster to hijack the Chimera and
steal the Terrigan's crystal, which unearthed the unknown object.
They soon learn that Tarleton, now calling himself Modok, plans to exterminate inhumans
and any other super powered beings around the world, including Modok himself afterwards.
The Avengers storm his San Francisco fortress, but Modok activates the buried object in the
bay, a massive Kree sentry, and overpowers them.
Kamala grows to giant size and destroys it, sending Modok falling into the bay.
With the Avengers reunited and Modok defeated, Kamala returns home and rejoins her father,
who secretly allows her to join the Avengers.
In a mid-credits scene, a still living Rapacini becomes AIM's new scientist supreme, while
the Kree sentry launches a pod into space.
In a post-credits scene, Maria Hill informs the Avengers that S.H.I.E.L.D. has discovered
AIM's activities.
Upon completion of the reigning supreme campaign, a cutscene will play, wherein Kamala is officially
named an Avenger.
Hell yeah.
So, this...the story premise...is...is good.
It is.
I actually really really like the story.
Yeah, I mean, I thought the story was really interesting.
It's just...it's a very short story.
It is.
It's...what, it's like barely eight hours of gameplay, right?
Let me...let me see how...okay, so, for comparison, Red Dead Redemption 2, the main story alone
can take 40 to 60 hours to complete.
Holy hell.
And that's if you...that's main story alone.
40 to 60 hours.
Marvel's Avengers is around 10.
Wow.
It is a fourth of what Red Dead Redemption 2 is in length.
And they were able to squeeze in a good story, I feel.
It's just...
No, they weren't.
There was potential for more, and that's where it was lacking.
But that being said, we're not grading on what could have been, we're grading on what
was.
And I think the story was pretty solid.
I agree.
I loved it being...you get to see the Avengers through Kamala's eyes, and how much she looked
up to them, how even after A-Day, she knew it wasn't their fault, that there was something
sinister being built behind the scenes, just watching her discover what her powers are
all about, knowing that being an inhuman is not a bad thing.
This was my first introduction, actually, to Ms. Marvel, and I absolutely freaking love
her now.
Fantastic character.
Yeah, she's amazing.
Honestly, they could rebrand this game to be Ms. Marvel.
Yeah, they really could.
If they were to do that instead of this game, I think they could have had something really
freaking killer.
Like, yes.
Don't get me wrong, if this were just a Ms. Marvel game, I would want to play as Hulk,
I'd want to play as Iron Man, I'd want to play as Thor in Captain America, but I think
I would have liked the game overall better if it were just centered around one character.
That's fair.
I think that they could have done more with her abilities, fleshed them out a little bit
more.
But we'll get into that later down the line.
Would you have liked to see more of her home wife?
A little bit, yeah.
Kind of like a Spider-Man-esque Ms. Marvel game.
That's fair.
Where instead of swinging from skyscraper to skyscraper, you're in a little town in
New Jersey and you're running across rooftops.
Yeah.
And just doing that sort of shit.
I think that would be so much fun.
Oh, absolutely.
And then you could fling yourself, just stretch your arms and fling.
Kind of done something along those lines.
I feel like that would have made for a really fun game.
But the story, it flowed really well.
But like we said, it's a short game.
I beat this in three or four sessions.
I beat it probably in about like six, I'd say.
How many?
You said three to four, right?
Yeah, three to four sessions of play.
And I played maybe a couple hours at a time.
Yeah, same for me.
I mean, I feel you're more of a, you're a better gamer than me.
So it took me probably about like six to seven settings.
Yeah.
And it's, it's nothing against like the way you play.
It's just, I don't know.
I feel like there are times where it's the story gets slow.
It does.
And also there were just some areas with you're getting attacked by so many freaking aim robots
that if I didn't turn it off, I was going to throw my controller through my TV.
Yeah and we'll get to that in gameplay.
But story, story wise, it wasn't, it was a good story.
It wasn't like the best story on planet earth.
You don't, it's like, it's so weird because yeah.
And I think it's something like if it would have followed one Avenger the entire time,
I think they could have gotten away with a lot of the emotional things that they were
trying to do.
Ooh yeah.
Like you play as Ms. Marvel for the first little bit and like kind of going around like the
event, the A day Chimera event and you get to kind of get a vibe for Kamala and it's
so it's fun.
It is.
Like it's so much fun seeing her interact with all the Avengers and fellow nerds.
Like most of the time a lot of people I feel don't like walk around levels like that, walk
around introductions, but I absolutely love that.
I felt like a little kid.
I would have been the same way if I got to meet Captain America, Thor, Black Widow, like
come on.
Hell yeah.
But the way that it like cut between all of the Avengers, there's it's lacking in some
of the emotional aspects.
Like Kamala, she has like a final battle with the Kree Centurion at the very end.
If you haven't played this game, spoiler alert, so sorry.
But whoops.
Yeah.
I think you knew what you were getting into.
So she has a final battle with the Kree Centurion.
So she embigons to a like crazy size and I think that there's like an emotional aspect
to that.
Like the way that she's able to like grow huge like that.
It's just like harnessing all of that power inside her that she doesn't quite know how
to harness to its fullest potential.
And it didn't feel as powerful because of other like it's giving you these tiny little
emotional arcs because you're playing as six different characters throughout this entire
game.
And some characters don't even get emotional arcs.
Like Thor doesn't get shit.
No he does not.
Thor just kind of freaking appears.
Iron Man has this guilt thing with Cap and then he goes and like rescues Cap and then
they have kind of a sweet moment.
That's also lacking.
I feel the biggest emotional part for me was when Bruce and Kamala find Tony and they're
talking about you know AD and all this stuff and you know Bruce is just saying you know
like hey you know I still agree that it was our fault and he hysteria points out yes I
have flaws but at least I can admit them.
Yeah like that would have been more powerful if you were following just Hulk or if you're
following following just Tony.
But the fact that it's jumping in between it doesn't give you enough time to get emotionally
invested.
No it's fair.
Like I think it like those moments if you were to go in completely blind wouldn't have
hit me as hard if I didn't just come off of endgame.
Yeah exactly.
So okay speaking of going with that Kamala turning huge to defeat Tarleton's ship what's
it called again?
The Centurion.
Centurion thank you.
So it's a Kree Centurion that was what Captain America was trying to avoid from waking.
Oh yes okay thank you.
How would you have felt that after she falls down if she would have said this is an MCU
reference does anyone have any orange slices?
That would have been so funny.
That would have made the whole game for me.
I'm like okay this game gets an A plus.
Thank you.
A plus.
Yeah it's it's it's a good story.
It keeps you entertained it has its slow moments there's a lot of emotional connections that
are just lacking because you're switching from character to character to character and
there's a lot of history behind some of these emotions that aren't getting fully grabbed.
So I'm not the highest with this story.
Where are you at?
I don't know I like just thinking about the story I had a lot of fun with this story like
it's it's a simple story it's kind of a short story if you compare to other video games
but I would like you said you you were never bored had decent character development yes
it would have been better if like they would have focused on one character instead of be
switching on and off between two when it came to emotional scenes I don't know I'd say like
a solid 80.
I can give you an 80 on that.
Yeah it's it's just the jumping back and forth that freaking throws you yeah because you're
playing as Kamala for a majority of the game and then you have a couple missions as Iron
Man rescuing Captain America then you're playing as Captain America for a little bit and then
you guys finally escape and then they get like a stranded in space scene and I don't
know like the connection doesn't really hit yeah no I can definitely agree with that.
So I'll agree with that the stories and a decent 80.
Writing the writing I think was pretty spot on it was like holy shit yeah it was really
it was a lot better than the story.
I wouldn't quite put it in the 90s I'm sitting like above 85 somewhere okay so you said above
85 but above 85 that's where I'm personally sitting just because like the writing was
very fluid all of the jokes I feel landed really well the dialogue the dialogue felt
really good yeah I think they could have like especially with a fangirl like Kamala I think
you could have gone really cheesy with the dialogue but they went pretty straight with
it and it worked out really well like these actually felt like real people yeah so I can
absolutely give you that.
Where are you at?
Because I said just above 85 oh I thought you said 85 I'm sorry I'm probably like an
87 87 yeah that's fair.
Alright next up we got a voice acting so I think we're just going to do the main six
so we have Sandra Saad who voiced Kamala Khan Nolan North who voiced Iron Man and Tony Stark
Troy Baker who voiced Bruce Banner Laura Bailey who voiced Black Widow Travis Willingham
who voiced Thor Odinson and Jeff Shine who voiced Captain America and then Darren DePaul
voiced the Hulk but Hulk didn't really talk all that much so unfortunately yeah it's okay
okay we'll be good.
So let's start off with the person I feel had the least amount of dialogue Thor yeah
Thor didn't get shit here didn't they?
Yeah so Travis Willingham he has voiced Thor before he voiced Thor in the Avengers Assemble
show.
Oh shit yeah he did now that I'm thinking of it.
Yeah and he's done a lot of video games like he was in Star Wars Fallen Order he voiced
or he voices Thor in the Marvel Dimensions of Heroes Ben 10 Guardians of the Galaxy show
he was Thor Avengers Assemble he was Thor so he's played Thor before damn so I think
he knew the character really well so I think that even though he wasn't given that much
to do his the voice was the voice work was still really well done.
So I think he's one of the higher ones for me like he's probably maybe third or fourth
okay probably third I think he's top three so but that being said Thor was he was good
not like it wasn't anything special I don't think his performance was super like whoa
so you think I'm like in the 80s?
I'm thinking the 80s okay yeah like where where are you thinking?
I'm thinking like a solid 85.
I think that's fair okay.
Let's see next up Cap.
I actually loved the guy that voiced Cap.
Yeah so the guy who voiced Cap what is his name is Jeff Shine and he hasn't done a whole
lot of like a lot of big names in video games.
Oh I know this game did not do that well but come on developers pick up on this guy he's
a great voice.
Yeah like the last game that he or no he's been in a few games but he did a voice in
Red Dead Redemption 2.
Oh hey.
The local pedestrian population.
So he was just random voice.
Hey that I mean that's awesome though that he went from that to Captain America so yeah
let's see Brotherhood Initiate in Fallout 76, People of Solace in Just Cause 4, Additional
Voices in Kingdom Hearts 3, Additional Voices in Kingdom Hearts 7, and then Captain America
in Marvel's Avengers.
Okay we differ in this I did not like his voice.
Really?
Oh shit okay.
Yeah well okay his he seemed like he was so quiet.
That's fair.
Like all the time.
I mean I don't know I feel like it kind of works for this Cap.
Kind of but I mean they're kind of going off of like Thor like the reason his voice works
so well is because Thor is like an almighty god and he walks like one and he talks like
one and he's just like very like huzzah like everything.
Captain America like I know he's not Thor but I feel like Captain America should have
a voice that's commanding.
I feel he does still.
Does he though?
I think he does.
He went like I don't think he like did it very much like commanding.
Like okay when he was talking for long periods of time I think that's when his voice sounded
really good.
It was small little things.
I mean like I feel okay big example.
Today when he's talking to Kamala very soft spoken.
Yeah but don't you kind of like when you're a kid I don't know if I was a kid I could
see Captain America being that way.
Yeah but he was like that when he was talking to Frickin Widow too.
Very just like you know the signs of a great leader.
Like just kind of like really.
Yeah he's just so like quiet and that's not what I want Captain America to be.
Like Captain America should have like a voice that carries itself.
Like when I think Captain America the voice that I think of is the one from Avengers Assemble.
That one was a good voice.
Yeah like that voice is Frickin spot on and I'm pretty sure it was Troy Baker that did
it.
How many voices did Troy Baker do in that show?
Because I know he did Hawkeye.
I know he did Loki.
Like God damn.
Yeah let's see.
Trying to find.
Okay so I was mistaken.
Troy Baker voiced Hawkeye and Loki.
I was right.
So someone Frickin Void.
Was it Nolan?
Okay it wasn't Nolan.
But anyway my point is.
Oh no that's the video game.
I'm stupid.
The point is Captain America should have a commanding voice I feel.
Or not even like a command just something a voice that carries itself.
Like someone who gives orders.
This guy doesn't sound like he gives orders.
Sorry I got to disagree with you man.
He was one of my favorite voices.
If anything.
Like I'm also thinking of when the first explosion happened on the bridge.
And Cap is sitting there like all the Avengers are kind of standing there watching.
And all he does is he looks over and he's like Tony.
And then Tony's like got it and then flies off.
Like very just soft like.
I feel like Captain America should have been like Tony go report.
And then Tony would have been like got it and then flown off.
Well hey I mean considering how long they've been working together as a team.
They already they just pick up on stuff like that.
Don't even need to tell me what you mean.
That's a bullshit.
That is a bullshit.
No I could totally see that with a group like the Avengers for how long that they have worked
together I could totally see someone just being like saying their name just like oh
I'm on it.
Because you've already assessed the situation.
You're just like okay you know Cap just said my name.
He just wants me to go check it out.
Gosh we are going to fight.
Yeah I think we are because you don't even want to know how high I am.
Okay how high are you thinking.
I'm actually higher than Thor.
What yeah.
Where are you at.
I'm at a 90.
Holy shit.
I loved him.
I thought he did a great Captain America.
I hated his Captain America.
Oh shit then where are you at.
I'm sitting.
I'm at a 65.
Damn.
Yeah so.
I think this is the most divisive we've ever been.
I think it is too.
Holy shit.
His voice was just it didn't scream Cap to me.
And it only like I feel like his voice only fit when he was talking for long spans of
time.
I don't know I disagree but that's his name.
I'm sorry bro I'm sorry.
Alright well I'm going to have to average these out.
So if we average out your 90 with my 65 that brings us to a 77 and a half.
That's a meeting in the middle.
Alright I'll take it.
Alright next up let's do Widow voiced by Laura Bailey.
She was fantastic.
Yeah and Laura Bailey voiced Mary Jane Watson in the PS4 Spider-Man.
Oh that's freaking awesome.
She let's see who else did she voice.
She voiced Black Widow in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3.
Oh and she voiced Black Widow in Avengers Assemble.
I thought I recognized that voice.
Yep but yeah she's done a lot of voice for Black Widow.
I mean she's really good at it so I don't blame them for having her come back each and
every time.
Yeah I actually really like her voice.
I thought it was also one of the higher voices.
Like I put it maybe Captain America is definitely the lowest for me.
So Widow is probably number four.
Okay and so yeah four then three would be Thor and then I'll talk about my top two in
a minute but yeah she's about number four for me.
But that being said I think she was still like fantastic.
Maybe a little bit lower than Thor I feel but maybe by like a point.
So we gave Thor an eighty-four right?
We gave Thor an eighty-five.
That's what I meant.
Sorry I meant we should have given her an eighty-four.
Yeah that sounds good to me.
Hell yeah.
I feel Captain America is the only one that we're going to fight on.
Yeah.
Alright next up let's do Troy Baker who voiced Bruce Banner.
Oh I loved him.
Okay we were wrong.
This is not the only one that we're going to fight.
Damn it.
Okay well shit.
Okay don't get me wrong.
I love Troy Baker.
He his voice is so good.
Like let's see what other things he's done.
Like voicing Loki in Hawkeye.
I love him as Loki in Hawkeye.
Like his voice is just so distinct.
I feel that he was wasted as Bruce Banner.
I disagree.
Dude what?
I'm sorry.
I disagree.
I loved his Bruce Banner.
I loved it.
You're killing me Rose.
You're welcome.
I will say this.
So he's above Captain America for me.
Okay.
Like I said Captain America is bottom then Banner then Widow but the margins between
Widow and Banner are really thick.
Oh shit.
So it's like a decent jump.
And then it's Widow and then Thor.
So what are you at?
I'm like at a 70.
Okay I'm at about an 80.
So me in the middle at 75.
Yeah that sounds good to me.
Cool.
So next up we got Nolan North who voiced Iron Man and Tony Stark.
Okay I swear if you did not like him I'm going to kick your ass.
I actually liked this one.
Okay thank goodness.
So cool your tits.
So yeah Nolan North I think brought a lot of energy to Iron Man.
Yes I absolutely agree.
I honestly would have preferred to see Nolan North and Troy Baker swapped.
Really?
Yeah I think Troy Baker would have done a better Iron Man and Nolan North would have
made a better Banner.
Interesting.
Yeah because Nolan North he's done a lot of shit.
Like he voices Nathan Drake in the Uncharted series.
Oh shit.
He voices Desmond Miles in Assassin's Creed.
What other?
He did another.
Oh he voices Lego Superman and Clark Kent.
Wait in like the Lego Batman series?
Yeah.
Oh okay.
In Ultimate Alliance 3 he voiced Deadpool in Rocket.
Yeah I know he did um or he voiced Deadpool in Deadpool's video game.
Oh really?
Yeah.
But yeah I think he would have done a killer job as um as Banner.
That definitely would have been interesting.
Yeah kind of bring a little bit of his like a more mild mannered Nathan Drake into it.
Okay.
Yeah that could actually work.
Yeah um let's see.
Yeah he voiced Rocket in the Telltale series.
I'm trying to see if there's any other video games that we.
Yeah Superman in Lego DC.
He's done a lot of work.
Yeah he would have he would have freaking killed it as Banner.
I can I can agree with that.
So seeing him in the Iron Man role.
Like I think it was a good casting choice.
But I think I think they could have chosen a better casting for Troy Baker.
How rude.
Like I probably would have put Troy Baker.
I would have actually preferred him as Captain America.
Rude.
So rude.
Yeah it's just I don't like Jeff Shines Captain America.
So rude.
Yeah.
So what are you thinking for um for Nolan?
Hmm.
I don't know.
I liked him as much as Cap's voice.
So I'm probably like.
I'm probably going to go for a 90 again.
I can give you that.
Okay.
Hell yeah.
Yeah and then last up we got Kamala Khan voiced by Sandra Saad.
Yeah she was fantastic.
She she was amazing.
She definitely gets the highest score at least to me.
I absolutely agree.
And she has not been working long.
What?
She had like her first credits from 2012.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay well I'm really hoping this movie gets her a lot more work.
Not movie wow.
This video game.
This video game?
Yeah.
I don't know words.
Yeah I I loved her voice.
I think she absolutely killed it as Kamala Khan.
Absolutely agree.
So what what are you thinking with her score?
I'm at I'm at 95.
I can give you that.
Absolutely.
Hell yes.
I might have backed up.
Go stand Caleb.
What the hell?
Hold on.
And this is why we don't pay in the big bucks.
Asshole.
What did we give banner?
I think it's 75.
Yeah because we met in the middle.
Okay yeah that's right.
Okay.
That brings us to an 84.416 percent.
That's not bad.
Yeah that's not bad at all.
Alright next up we got character development which I think we could do Kamala.
Yeah okay.
So Kamala has a pretty decent arc I feel.
She kind of goes from like fangirl without superpowers gets her superpowers and realizes
that her superheroes are or her heroes are all human and have their flaws and kind of
learns to rely on herself and become her own hero.
And then she goes yeah and then she goes from that to even becoming the hero of one of her
heroes.
Yeah I feel with what you said of how she has to basically she can't always rely on
her hero she has to rely on herself and I feel that's very evident in the scene where
the banner literally just tries to pass her off to Tony and she's like damn F you banner.
Yeah no shit.
Yeah it's the things that I'm gonna have to dock for with development is you don't really
it doesn't really explain her powers.
It doesn't.
Like her powers are explained like you understand what her powers are but she has like this
in beginning power where she can grow really big and then she grows even bigger and then
she like passes out because she can't control it.
Yeah.
She'd never like it never really explains like how she's able to do that.
No.
Like I think that would have been a really good place for Thor to step in.
Oh yeah that would have been really good.
And kind of show like I'm harnessing all this power through my hammer.
Like it is it's helping it's help guiding my power.
You need to help your like show your power what to do.
Yeah.
Like don't rely on your powers to just do whatever they're going to do.
Like you are in control.
I think that would have been a really good moment for Thor.
But they didn't.
And it just kind of felt like oh she's used to growing big now.
So that's why.
Like it never wrote they never really explained why she was able to suddenly control her giant
form.
It was those orange slices.
Those orange slices.
But I mean it's a decent arc.
I wouldn't say it's perfect in any way shape or form.
I feel if you if someone doesn't really know a lot about Miss Marvel Kamala Khan it's a
very good introduction to her.
I feel it will definitely get you if you really want to dive more deep into her backstory
it will definitely get you to pick up a comic book or maybe wait till the Disney plus series
comes out.
It definitely gets you very interested in the character.
You definitely want to learn more.
I would say that for sure.
I actually did a lot of reading on her before this game was even announced and I love Kamala
Khan.
But I don't think that they did her story justice.
That's fair.
Unfortunately.
It would have been better if they just focused on one character.
And I feel the fact that they had to still put in the five Avengers it really took away
from her story arc.
Like the first half of I feel like the first quarter of the game or maybe in the first
half of the game is kind of just you get Kamala set up and then you get her reacting with
the Avengers and getting them back together.
And then after that it just goes completely back.
It's the Avengers game.
Like it's them making sure that they know how to defeat Tarleton and all of this stuff.
And I feel Kamala is just sidelined at that point.
Like absolutely.
Yeah.
You hardly see her.
She's literally only in the background.
She's never on the forefront.
Yeah.
And the way that they bounce you back and forth really just jacks up with the arc.
Yeah.
I absolutely agree.
So unfortunately I think I'm going to be fairly low or on the lower side.
I'm in like the high 70s.
Okay.
For her arc.
And it's just because it gets ruined by the rest of the game.
It does.
So I'm sitting at like a 77.
I can give you that.
All right.
Next up we got graphics.
I thought these were really good.
I thought they were really good too.
So we both played this on the previous gen.
So I played it on Xbox One and you played it on PS4.
Yes.
And the graphics looked amazing.
Yeah I'm very interested to see because they haven't released it yet on PS5 and Xbox Series
X.
They say they're going to do that probably at the beginning of 2021.
And for anyone that bought it on Xbox One or PS4 you get a free upgrade to those next
gen consoles if you buy the next gen console.
But so I'm very interested to see if they'll update.
I mean do you think they're going to update the graphics like at all?
I think they are.
Okay.
But because I mean I don't know for.
This unfortunately graphics is going to get docked a lot for me.
How come?
So if you I pre-ordered this game.
As did I.
And I as yeah as did you.
And when you pre-order it you get a set of costumes for the characters.
And unfortunately like you get the kind of the first appearance costumes or just something
similar to that.
Iron Man suit looked great.
Captain America suit would have looked great but it was so freaking glitchy.
Yeah.
And Black Widow was so freaking glitchy.
Yeah I mean nowadays it's a little bit better.
They kind of patched it up but because we still saw it that first couple weeks.
Yeah we still got a docket for that shit.
Dude what is it with video game companies releasing games that aren't done?
Yeah I mean I'm assuming you've heard all the scuffle with Cyberpunk 2077.
Yeah the shit that or it doesn't even work.
Yeah.
Literally every game reviewer has said if the only way that you can play Cyberpunk is
on a base PS4 or Xbox one don't.
Just wait until you can upgrade to the next gen console or at least to a PS4 Pro.
Or don't even buy it.
Because yeah it's just glitches galore.
It will kick you out of the game because you'll get an error saying oh we encountered an error
on your disc.
And just yeah.
It's like yeah no shit you released an unfinished game.
And I love how freaking the company even pointed out they're just like yeah we only really
showcase stuff.
And they're actually being like really good about it because they're actually giving like
refunds.
They're trying their best to patch it up.
But I love how they straight up said that oh when we in advertising we only really showcase
like footage from the PC version.
We didn't even showcase the PS5 and Xbox Series X.
And we didn't dare show PS4 or Xbox one.
This is all PC.
Freaking imbeciles.
So this game.
Okay I don't know about you but when the scene where the Camara is starting to go down and
everyone is evacuating and Kamala Khan and her dad are jumping onto the helicarrier to
escape.
When Kamala gets like that face burst of Terrigan gas.
Her hair was not loaded.
I did not.
Like her hair did not.
Her hair in my version did not load.
So she was completely bald.
And then when her dad kind of picks her up and takes her to the helicarrier her hair
comes back for a second.
And then it disappears again when they're on the ship.
And so she's just a bald character.
And I'm like are you shitting me?
And then there was a whole other level where Thor's hair didn't even load.
I never had any of those problems.
Yeah I had like nothing but those problems.
Well I think this just proves that they liked PS4 better than Xbox one.
Suck it bitch.
Yeah tis true.
And then like Black Widow she has a costume where her hair is like a really sharp red
instead of like a natural color.
It looks like very sharp.
And she's kind of in her classic outfit.
That hair like the hair wouldn't load.
Right it had like anytime it moved it would like have black inside the hair.
I think I had that same problem too.
Yeah and that's all issues that should have been fixed before you even released the game.
Like it's freaking horse shit.
The loading screens looked incredible.
Yeah for real though.
Other than that it was garbage.
It was just hot garbage.
I mean I didn't really I had no I didn't have problems really like you.
So I think I'm gonna probably be a little different than you.
Considering I didn't run into the same problems.
Okay yeah I'm so low because of all the issues that they had with the costumes.
Like the the freaking Captain America one.
Like I shit you not guys.
So there's like a World War Two outfit Captain America.
So it's kind of like he's wearing it like a kind of like a leather jacket but it's the
Captain America logo and he's wearing a World War Two helmet with an A on it.
It won't load properly.
When you're when you're playing like that suit won't load properly.
So all the like the details on the arm are fuzzy.
And he has stars on his arm that look like little freaking circle fuzz.
Have you tried.
And then the same with the A. When was the last time you played this game.
When I beat it.
Shit okay because they've made a lot of patches so that might have been fixed.
I'll have to go back but I'm basing all of this off of the initial release issues that
I had.
I agree but I'm just saying that I think they might have fixed that actually.
Yeah and I think they they did with most of them.
But it's it's the same thing with like all of the other costumes too.
Like not even the DLC one like a D if it was just the DLC I probably could have forgiven
that.
But any other costume that I would go to switch to it would take forever for the the lines
to become really crisp on the suits.
That's weird.
And I don't I don't know where we we probably need to make a category.
Maybe like a character design category.
It's not a bad idea.
Yeah but I'll throw it in with this.
I'm also docking for the costumes.
The costumes suck.
It's the same model.
It's the same freaking costume just painted differently.
Yeah it did honestly.
Like if you know what his suit if you know what Captain America's suit looks like on
the cover imagine that but instead of it being like a really thin stripe of red it's just
a thick line of red and like more classic colors.
And they chose like three different models or four I'll say four different models for
the suit.
They got the base suit and then just colored it differently and we're just like this is
a different suit.
No it's not.
It literally is the exact same suit five times but just a different shade of blue each time.
Yeah same with Hulk.
You have the Joe Fix It Hulk where he's in like a three piece suit switched to a different
suit.
It's just a different shade of Hulk.
It's just like a different shade of gray with a different color suit.
The exact same suit.
It's just messing with the colors and even like some other ones down the line.
So his like classic suit where he's just wearing his shorts and then obviously doesn't have
a shirt on so he just has green skin.
Different shade of green different color shorts.
And honestly okay I can forgive that because Hulk.
Of course you can.
But with everyone else it's just like come on.
Are you even trying?
The answer is no.
Yeah I'm so freaking low in this.
So low.
Like you're gonna.
It's bad.
Alright I gotta hear it.
I'm at a firm 47.
Oh shit.
Yeah they were.
All of that just pissed me off so much.
The costumes I can forgive.
Okay.
Maybe I'm not a firm 47.
I'm gonna I'll bump it up to a 50.
Okay I can give you a 50.
Yeah the outfits and the glitches and everything else upon release I'm not like taking into
consideration the patches.
They're garbage.
I feel like the only thing that looks good on my system is the freaking loading screen.
Yeah.
Dude Kate's loading screen is badass.
I haven't seen her.
Oh she looks yeah she looks freaking awesome.
I'm excited.
Okay kind of really quickly I just want to throw this in.
So like you know like how we were talking earlier about with the whole Hawkeye thing.
I just want to throw in the line that I don't know if you remember Tony saying this but
he's just like good to have you back buddy.
Now people can finally stop asking where Hawkeye went.
Yeah I just think that it's really funny that Square Enix threw that in as just like okay
everybody shut the hell up.
We finally put him in there okay.
We know he exists.
Yeah that's funny.
So yeah I'm with graphics 50.
Yeah I can give you 50.
Okay all right next up we got music.
It's pretty solid for how I feel.
Yeah it was it's nothing to write home about.
It's nothing it's no like I never got like it as hyped as I did in like every Avengers
movie when like you you hear the Avengers assemble theme because I don't know about
everybody else but I get freaking pumped.
I get hyped.
I'm like oh shit okay so like Avengers assemble bitch.
Yeah so this being a video game this one's out of a hundred.
Okay.
Unlike our other ones so I'm like 70, 75.
I was thinking 75.
75?
Yeah I can give you that.
It's it's not bad.
I mean but it's it's definitely nothing to write home about.
Yeah all right next up we got gameplay.
So this is just how the characters handle and I know Caleb has a lot to say about how
Hulk handled because for the most part with this game before I unlocked Captain America
I mostly played as Kamala.
She was my go-to just because I feel that she was the easiest to play as.
She had a lot of good attacks.
Her attacks were very powerful.
Iron Man on the ground pretty solid.
Flying as Iron Man was a bitch.
I was not the biggest fan of the flying mechanics in this game at least when it comes to Iron
Man.
Thor was a little better with flying mechanics but not the greatest.
Not much dude.
Yeah.
You know how many times I tried flying away really fast but couldn't.
Yeah.
Because Thor had to take that couple seconds to spin the hammer.
I mean you can't really fault it for that.
That's that's kind of being comic accurate.
I get that but it's also that those couple seconds are kind of like critical.
Okay fair enough.
Like they should have had like a takeoff ability.
Yeah.
Because like you could run and then jump and then you like float like going in a direction
and then you spin and you could still be going in that direction and then you like zoom off
but when you have someone shooting at you or blasting a beam it's hard to freaking those
couple seconds are critical.
Okay fair enough.
That's fair enough.
I mean I really actually like Thor playing as Thor.
Thor is freaking fun as hell.
Throw Mjolnir.
That was fun as hell.
Same with Captain America.
Yeah those.
Iron Man like I said Iron Man was pretty good on the ground when you're not flying.
Black Widow I feel I was kind of the same with her as Kamala.
She was definitely a lot easier to handle but I feel Kamala's attacks were a little
stronger and then probably I feel Caleb would agree Hulk was probably the hardest to play
as because he was until you boosted him up.
See I never did that.
Or leveled him up a little bit.
I didn't really play a lot as the Hulk so when it came to like boosting up the character
the most throughout the whole game was probably Kamala but like towards the ending it was
probably Captain America.
Same here.
I boosted up Hulk most of it and then Captain America is my number two to go to.
Like my top three to play as are Hulk, Cap and Thor.
And it's not that I have anything against Black Widow and Iron Man and Kamala.
It's just Hulk's my favorite character.
Captain America is really fun to play as and Thor is also really fun.
I mean now ever since that DLC was released Kate's my favorite character because it's
actually really fun learning the best way to hit a target and like they really make
you work for being able to hit a target with your arrow.
They definitely make you work to make it feel like you're Hawkeye and I actually love that.
Kate's my favorite character.
I haven't downloaded Kate Bishop yet.
She's so much fun to play as.
I'm going to do that sometime soon and play as her for a little bit just to test her out.
But gameplay wise each character feels like a different vibe when you play as them and
I love that aspect of it.
The vibrating on the controllers is a bit excessive.
Yeah.
Another thing that's very excessive is the game is like very repetitive.
Like you're told to go to this area, fight a bunch of robots or say like Jarvis needs
to hack into something you have to make sure you stand in this one circle to defeat all
of these robots if you step out of it or it gets hacked by one of these robots you have
to start all over again because Jarvis wasn't able to do it.
And it's just so repetitive I feel for most of the game and kind of what I pointed out
earlier with some of the levels that you're attacked by so many AIM robots that it's overwhelming
and especially there was this one Iron Man level where it's just you.
It's just Iron Man.
You don't have any of your teammates so you literally have to take all of these people
out and it took me at least five times to beat it and on that fifth time I'm really
grateful that I beat it because I was about to throw my remote or controller through my
damn TV because it takes a lot for me to get pissed off at a video game but this game got
me pretty heated in a couple of moments.
Yeah we'll get into what I think of the levels when we talk about main missions and side
quests.
Gameplay wise I'm definitely going to be talking like definitely getting into difficulty.
I typically set my difficulty to easy.
Same.
Or not easy to normal.
I'm easy.
I played two levels and then I moved my difficulty to easy and I was still getting my ass whooped.
Yeah for real though.
Like what the hell.
Your game we should not have to replay because I think I was like six or seven times on that
Iron Man level.
Shit.
Yeah and it's that one where you're like flying through the aim facility.
I kept freaking crashing into shit and getting like freaking wrecked.
I seriously like six or seven times I played that level and I was right with you.
I wanted to throw my controller against a wall and I was on easy.
That's bullshit.
Yeah it's straight up bullshit.
Yeah when I fight someone it should be a one punch kill for everyone.
Seriously though.
Or at least like a two punch kill.
Yeah at least but bloody hell.
Are you shitting me?
We should not have to lower the damn difficulty on easy.
Yeah no.
I mean like I said I always played mostly on easy because I'm mostly a casual casual
gamer but yeah I was having a bitch of a time just on easy.
I was like this is like is there a super easy mode.
I mean I doubt that would be even better.
Yeah that shit is garbage.
They needed a child's play level.
Yeah no joke.
Like think about the little kids that are playing this game.
They're thinking they're getting into like a fun like ooh Avengers and no they're just
like no you're about to grow up today.
This is what the real world is like.
You think you want to pick easy?
Nope.
Still hard.
This will be the day that the kid finally curses.
It's a freaking joke.
See the kid just taking his controller being like piece of shit.
And then like you said you get freaking crowded by enemies.
And so the only way to actually win and Hulk freaking gets destroyed by if you surround
Hulk with a bunch of enemies he freaking gets wrecked.
Yeah tell me how that makes sense.
Yeah and how does this make sense too?
The lowest level character I can punch twice as Hulk and then he'll die and I can punch
twice as Iron Man and then he'll die.
No!
Yeah that's no.
A Hulk punch and an Iron Man punch are two different things.
Exactly like the consistency on the power like the powers scale was just so off.
Like it shouldn't like I shouldn't be able to get like if I'm a character that deals
a shit ton of damage like the Hulk I shouldn't be able to he's a tank.
He should be able to take a shit ton of hits.
Yeah absolutely.
And I think he's above average in taking the hits.
Like he's probably equivalent to Thor but there should be like I should be able to run
away and kind of regain some health and come back because Hulk has a healing factor.
It shouldn't be like super fast but it should be fast enough for me to freaking keep up
with some of these low level people punching me while I'm getting blasted in the back by
some laser freaking adaptoid.
Well if I freaking got put face to face against two adaptoids I'm freaking screwed.
Yeah for real though.
And that's horse shit.
Yeah it's straight up horse shit.
So playing as the characters you it's a learning curve to learn the different move sets.
Yes.
I feel like this is a game where you kind of are a master of one.
Yeah.
And like you're like decent with some other characters.
Like if you were going to play online with someone then I think you could be like oh
this is my backup character.
Like my backup character to Hulk was Captain America.
And if Hulk and Cap were taken my backup was Thor.
And if Thor was taken I just didn't play.
Fair enough.
I'm like because I'm not efficient enough with Iron Man, Widow or Kamala to feel comfortable
going into that situation.
No I get you man.
And oh my gosh.
And also another gameplay feature.
Gear.
Gear is freaking pointless.
You go and collect this gear and typically in video games when you get gear your shit
changes.
Like if you have like use Assassin's Creed for example.
If you go and collect a different hidden blade you can see that the hidden blade has changed
on your character.
All that shit's pointless in this game.
Yeah you see absolutely no change.
Yeah like with Captain America one of the gear pieces that you can collect is a shield.
He shows you the shield and it will like show a hologram version of the shield and then
you go and select a different gear and then it's like it has like a flash but then nothing
changes.
It's like cool now I have this piece of gear that I can't see.
Cosmetically it does nothing and that's so stupid.
It really is.
It's so stupid.
And especially with characters like Iron Man.
Like Iron Man should have the most like changeable gear.
And obviously like you should be able to change what your gear looks like if you're just like
oh I don't like that aesthetic but I like what this gear's perks.
You should be able to change it for a fee of in game credits.
But yeah it's just they had so much potential with this game and it just got squandered
because they released it too early and it sucked.
Yeah I absolutely agree.
I'm really freaking low on gameplay.
Like as low as you are on graphics?
On graphics?
I'm lower.
Wow like 45?
Dude like the game like we said it's too hard even when you're set on easy.
The gear is pointless.
And like the cosmetics whatever.
And then like the only thing that feels good is once you master a character.
Before that you're going to freaking struggle.
And like don't even get me started on trying to build your XP.
So if you're someone that likes to play levels to gain your XP you better shut that shit
down because the only way to gain XP if you're trying to learn a new character is just to
play the same level over and over and over and over again until you eventually get perked
up enough to be able to go out and do some levels.
So like to do a level they have like a power ranking that you should have and if you don't
meet that power ranking you can't perform that level.
It's like okay cool I understand that but why are you giving me that level as an option?
Exactly.
It should be hidden until I reach that level.
And it's just little things like that that just aggravate the shit out of me.
So yeah I'm so freaking low on this.
Like what are you sitting at?
I can definitely agree with you it's definitely lower than graphics.
I'm at like a 45.
I can absolutely give you a 45.
Freaking F this game.
Oh shit.
Alright next up we got main missions.
So the missions in this game were actually they weren't bad I'll say that.
They weren't like super amazing but they weren't bad.
A lot of them are impossible to beat if you're anything higher than easy or if you haven't
like spent a shit ton of time boosting your characters up in the beginning.
If anyone listening has played this on hard I really want to know like reach out to us
and tell us did you even beat this game?
What is your life like?
Because you the real MVP if you were able to beat this game on hard because holy shit
I would have thrown my PS4 out the window.
No joke.
But they had some good levels that kind of helped kind of showcase the characters and
their skill sets.
I can agree with that.
Like the opening level is fantastic because it switches you between all the Avengers.
You start off as Thor learn his skill set and then Iron Man comes and flies by and then
switches to Iron Man and then you kind of learn Iron Man skill set.
Then you go to Hulk learn his skills a little bit and like all that feels like really good
and fluid and they had a lot of levels like that.
Like Kamala she was able to sneak around like she was able to do a lot of walk around levels.
Iron Man had a freaking killer level where he's going around collecting gear for his
suit.
And so you're walking around you find like his boots so now you can like fly kind of.
Then you find his repulsors on one hand so you have one repulsor and then you go find
the other one and then you get like a helmet and like all that it's really fun.
It's just once you get past all that that it starts to suck.
This is a beat em up game and there's no other way to play it.
Yep and I understand that with like it kind of makes you feel like going into the game
like there's going to be more to do than just beat everyone up.
Like when I go into Ultimate Alliance I know it's a beat em up game.
It's a top down RPG game.
So like absolutely understandable why it's like that.
But like there's enough diversity in the game in that game to encourage me to go on and
come back.
In this game I have no desire to go back.
Like I beat the story and I'm like okay I'm good.
And now the only reason I want to go back is because new characters new missions.
Yeah yeah.
Yeah Kate Bishop's what brought me back.
And also I needed to finish the story really quickly.
Yeah but I mean the main missions were they got you through.
They did have some like standout levels that were pretty awesome but other than that nothing
really like oh my gosh like you have to play this level.
Yeah no no absolutely.
So for main missions story or for main missions I'm sitting at like 70 maybe even lower than
that like 67.
I can give you 67 honestly.
Definitely.
Cool.
Alright next up we got side quests.
And side quests I played a few just because I wanted to be fair.
The side quests are garbage.
They are absolute garbage.
Okay so what are we referring to when we talk about side quests because I actually don't
even know.
Anything that's not story based.
That's not like.
Okay so I actually did do I forgot I actually did do a couple of these because I accidentally
got the story mode and just like the like shield missions thing switched up so I thought
for some reason I'm like okay I guess apparently I have to help Mariah Hill with these and
then I can finish the story but I was wrong because I on the main menu I accidentally
clicked on the first tab when I needed to click on the second one because I was getting
like really confused because I was able to play as Kate so I'm like wait why should I
be able to play as Kate in the main story that makes no sense.
But I would definitely have to agree with you they really are garbage.
Yeah like they have character missions character specific missions and the like they give you
a reward for beating those like if you complete all of them but the like they give you a costume
and the costume is the classic like whatever the cover.
So the if you like search Marvel's Avengers the costumes that is that's on the cover of
the game that's the costume that you unlock if you do all of the levels and that's stupid.
Yeah it's very stupid.
Hell I feel like cool you get to play yeah you get to play or you unlock the ability
to look like they do on the cover.
I feel.
Freaking do.
Yeah that should have been the costumes that were locked from the get go I feel.
Yeah exactly.
That made no freaking sense.
Yeah like you play through the main story and you unlock this the legendary or it's
each it's either legendary or it's the epic outfit but you unlock the Stark tech outfit.
Before you unlock the freaking.
Main story outfit.
Yeah it just makes no sense.
And they have such better costumes than than those that your motivation to go and collect
those it's it's minimal.
Yeah it's not there.
Yes but the side mission the side quests suck they're too hard they're too hard to beat
unless you are like crazy good at boosting your character up.
Like I spent after I beat the game because it was I played for about three hours like
my final session an hour and a half in I beat the game the rest of the time so another hour
and a half I was playing in one of the harm rooms so the harm room is like a training
room and I was playing those over and over and over and over and over because you have
these daily and weekly challenges that you complete and then they give you points towards
boosting your character and also XP and shit.
And I am I'm only on level like 16 17 with Hulk.
That's pretty good still though.
Yeah but for that's like completing the story mode only playing as Hulk or playing as Hulk
as often as I could and an hour and a half of gameplay level 16.
Wow and I feel like it should be higher.
No I get you man.
Because it's out of 40.
Yeah.
Like by the time you beat the game you should be at least like I'd say around 20 like halfway
to 40.
Yeah.
Or something that's just a personal grievance but whatever.
Point is the side quests suck and they give you no motivation to go and play them.
No significant.
Like if they would have been like oh legendary outfit like the like an outfit that was completely
different from all of the other outfits that would have motivated me to go and like collect
them.
Oh yeah absolutely.
But it doesn't do that.
It gives you it's like oh you can unlock these shitty costumes.
Oh cool so I don't have to do this because I have a costume that I like better.
It's like no no please please do them.
Yeah like the rewards were just like stupid.
Yeah they really were.
So I'm really low on side quests too.
I'm probably going to agree with you so let's see how low you are buddy.
I'm at like 50.
Yeah I can give you that.
I might even be lower than that.
I might be on like 45 level.
I would put it on the same level as main missions.
Didn't we get main missions 45?
We gave main missions 67.
Oh we did?
Oh my bad.
Yeah we gave gameplay 45.
Oh okay.
Yeah I would probably put it on the same level as gameplay.
45.
Let's do it.
I don't give a shit.
Alright last up we got our own personal grade.
So I'll let you take this.
So overall I feel there was so much potential with this game but with some bad side missions,
some not so great main missions, just some glitches like Caleb pointed out this game
does not come close to greatness and that's what I really wanted from an Avengers game.
I hope in the future that maybe Square Enix can add more to this game, continue to patch
it up but as from just sitting with a first game playthrough I'm at like a 65.
That is more than fair.
Okay what are you at?
I'm at a 60.
Okay that's fair.
Yeah so this game, like you said it had so much potential that was just wasted on stupid
decisions.
They released this game too early.
It was not ready for public consumption.
I think they lost like 60 million dollars on this game.
Yeah that's ridiculous.
On a game, on a Marvel game.
Like are you shitting me?
Like your movies are killer, you should be able to make a killer video game.
And we've said it, like the mistakes that they made were they tried jumping around from
character to character too much.
They should have focused on one character and moved on.
I was talking to you about this actually.
Something that I would have preferred that they'd done that would have made them a little
bit more money in the long run is I would have released six different games.
Twenty bucks a pop or maybe even 25 a pop.
And each game is just like a variation of this game but it's you choose a character
to play as for the main story.
So like on release day they release six of them.
You reserve your copy for Captain America, I reserve a copy for Hulk.
You play the story mode.
You play the whole story mode as Hulk or as Captain America, as Kamala, whatever.
And then when you beat it, you can go and like, then you can boost your character from
there.
It has more of a, there's a play style.
Like you've mastered your character or you've figured out how your character works and you
kind of master your character from there.
And kind of figure the game style out.
And then with that you could even, you can make the stories like 10 hours and then you
have six of those, like six different stories that you can play.
So if you do that, like, yeah, so if you have that, you have 60 hours of gameplay, all different
side missions and then maybe it's like, oh, if you collect, or if you get all of them,
complete the story modes in all of them, then you get, then you unlock a, like a final story
or whatever, like a secret ending or whatever.
Like that would have been so much more fun than what this freaking horse shit was.
For real though.
Yeah.
And then like, even like you could have given, I mean, there's so much like memory that is
used up trying to figure out how Kamala plays versus how Captain America plays versus how
Thor plays.
If you would have had like a disc solely meant for Kamala, you could make Kamala play however
the hell you want.
Because your, the disc isn't reliant on everyone else's gameplay and you could like really
improve the overall gameplay.
Like improve that experience like a ton.
So it left me lacking, left me wishing that there was a better game.
No, absolutely.
The only reason I enjoyed it was because we've been on a year break of Marvel content and
this was, this was the Marvel content to get me through.
For real though, dude.
So if you're out there looking for an amazing game, this ain't it.
Look somewhere else.
Yeah, this is the, yeah, this ain't it.
Yeah, it's not, not good.
Unfortunately.
So with that, I'm giving it a 60.
Averaging our two scores out, that brings us to a 62.5, which is going to be the grade
that I enter in personal grade.
And finally the, or lastly, the final grade for Marvel's Avengers is a D plus.
Oh, dang, at least it didn't fail.
Yeah it didn't get an F guys, it didn't get an F.
Yeah, it didn't get an F, but it didn't do well either.
No it did not.
The, so it is sitting at a 67.29%.
Wow.
Yeah, and let's see, for a D plus, it's anything above a 66.
Okay.
So one point lower, it would have been in the D range.
Damn.
Yeah, it's, like we said, not a super good game.
No, it's really not.
So hopefully if you haven't played it, you're welcome.
Or just wait for it to be really cheap.
It was half price on Black Friday, so I'm sure it will probably be cheaper with it.
I'll bet you.
Yeah, let's pretend like that was their choice.
Yeah, like I'll bet you probably within the middle of next year it will probably be down
to 20 bucks.
Yeah, and even then, probably not going to be worth it.
And just think, we each paid 60 bucks for this.
Wait, actually, Caleb paid 80 because he got the Ultimate Edition.
I did.
I just got the regular edition.
This is making me question getting the Deluxe Editions in the future.
That's fair.
For all games.
That's absolutely fair.
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Yeah, so next week we will be breaking down Soul, the newest Pixar Disney movie.
So if you guys haven't checked it out, please go check it out.
It's amazing.
So good.
Yeah.
I haven't personally watched it yet, I'm hoping that I can get Brielle to watch it tonight.
That or Wonder Woman, one of the two.
Dude, are you serious?
It's almost 11 o'clock where you are.
But tomorrow's Sunday.
But still though, god damn.
I don't know, maybe I'm just an early bird, but wow.
Maybe.
Anyway, you guys can look forward to that next week.
But until then, this has been The All Bros. podcast.
Thank you for joining us on episode 150.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for allowing us to get this far without demanding that we shut down.
Please let us get another 50.
Well until then, this has been The All Bros. podcast.
I'm Caleb and I'm Jonathan.
And we'll catch you guys next week.
Deices, so long, happy new year.
Oh yeah, we'll be new here when this releases, huh?
Yeah.
Get your head in the game.