What up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we're a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies, but
also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast, we'll be skipping over adventures and hunting because we'll
be talking about each other's top five movies of 2020 because there were so many, so many
choices.
So many.
Can't even keep a straight face.
But we're not just skipping over adventures and hunting.
We are killing it off completely.
Kind of.
But in a good way.
It's in a better way.
It's going to get better.
Yeah, we'll talk about it.
We'll get into it.
Yeah.
But so after that, we do not have any new trailers to talk about.
And we'll also be talking about some changes coming to that as well.
Big changes coming here at the All Bros and I think you guys will be excited for it.
Happy New Year, everyone.
Yeah, Happy New Year.
Top 2021 is at least somewhat better than 2020.
Watch 20.
As soon as 2021 comes, which for me is in three hours.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Almost two and a half.
Yeah, something bad is going to happen.
I don't know what, but I know it's not going to be good.
You're going to skip COVID 20 and it's just going to be COVID 21.
Probably.
Yeah.
But yeah, so after all that good jazz, we go over the changes that we have in mind.
We will be jumping into our main event of the evening, which will be our breakdown of
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Like listen to our top five movies of the year and shit, but don't listen to the breakdown
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I mean it.
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Yeah, but I mean it.
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All right, so Caleb, do we want to talk about the changes first or do we want to talk about
our top five first?
Let's just talk about the changes first.
Okay, sounds good.
Would you like to explain these changes that we have coming to the All Bros?
Hell yeah.
With the new year, we decided to overhaul the podcast a little bit.
Not really change the format completely.
We're not suddenly going to become a sports podcast because we're still freaking dipshits
when it comes to sports.
No, we're going to overhaul, kind of make our system a little bit more streamlined,
a little bit better, we feel.
The first change that we're making, adventures in hunting is going away.
For those of you that are wondering what the hell is adventures in hunting, welcome.
Second, that's where we talked about the Funko figures, like the pop figures in the Blu-rays
that we would go out and get, go out and find, hunting, and we would talk about all the figures
that we were interested in.
The way that this segment is evolving, it is transitioning to a little segment that
we're going to call Funko Focus.
Instead of bringing up every single freaking pop figure that has been released or announced
for that week, we are going to narrow it down to our top figure that we liked or enjoyed
seeing.
It's just going to be the one, and we'll talk about the, we'll just do a quick overview
of all the other figures that are coming out.
With that, it's also evolving on the social media side because we're going to be posting
everything that comes out.
Instead of it just being the ones that we talked about, it's just going to be as many
as we can fit into an Instagram post.
Then, talking about Blu-rays is going to change into 4K Spotlight.
Since we only get one, two, maybe three Blu-rays in a week, we're just going to talk about
the one that we're most excited for.
We'll try to do different ones.
It's more kind of like a pop of the week and then a Blu-ray of the week, but we each get
to choose one and talk about it however we want to.
Again, on social media, we're going to be posting everything that comes out, so you
guys can still look forward to that.
This week's sneak peeks, so where we talk about movie trailers, is going away too, but
it's kind of a de-evolution evolution thing.
It's a good way to put it.
We are bringing back through the wall, but instead of us talking about everything in
news and everything in trailers, it's just going to be our highlight of the week.
If there's a movie trailer that we see that freaking blows our minds, we're going to talk
about that.
If there's a news item, because we miss talking about the news.
We do.
I think we missed a lot of good shit when it came to Disney's Investor's Day and whatnot.
You have no idea how much I wanted to share how over the freaking moon I was when they
finally confirmed that Hailey Steinfeld was playing Kate Bishop.
I think that could lead to some interesting conversations.
Again, we're going to limit it to one item between us.
That's what we're bringing back through the wall, but also evolving it.
Hopefully these few changes to our introduction news segment are fun for everyone.
I think it will give us a little bit more time to just BS.
Kind of not force us to talk about each individual figure and be like, oh, this is what was cool
about it.
This is the pose it's in.
These are the colors.
It's just going to be like, no, this is my favorite figure that came out of this announcement
week.
These are all the other figures coming out.
It's just going to be a general overview.
We got some more Marvel pops.
We got some more DC.
We got some more whatever.
We'll get more into the anime for you anime fans and some other figures too.
Like we said, it's all going to be on our social media posts.
You guys can still look forward to that.
Also the main event is also going through a big overhaul.
We are renaming the main event of the evening into the Albrows Headliner.
There's only going to be two headliners.
I think for any of you that have been around long enough, we used to do showdown episodes
where it would just be kind of a list and then we'd rank that list somehow.
We haven't done one of those in a really long time and I think it's time for us to admit
that the showdown episodes are dead.
Unfortunately.
I feel for the time being, no you're good, I just feel for the time being with us not
being able to record with each other kind of makes it harder to do the showdown episodes.
I feel it was a lot easier when we were both in the same room.
So we're doing away with showdown episodes at least for now.
They may make a comeback like through the wall but I mean I wouldn't put money on it.
I'll put five bucks on it right here.
I'm just kidding.
So we're not doing showdowns anymore but we are going to continue to do breakdown episodes.
Obviously duh, that's our whole shtick.
And we are also going to continue to do Dreamcast episodes every once in a while just to kind
of spice things up.
We haven't done one in a while.
It's just because there's been a shit ton of movies that have come out that we want to
talk about.
So that's how it's evolving.
And another way that this is evolving with the breakdowns, we are not going to come up
with the scores on the spot anymore.
We have a page on our excel sheet called the debate page which you guys can go check out
website tinyurl.com forward slash theelbrows.
We have all the movies that we are going to be talking about in that page.
We were going to use it for movies that we've seen that we weren't going to do breakdowns
on just so we still have those scores but that didn't end up working out how we planned.
So Rose is going to put in his scores for the movie that we are going to be breaking
down so in this instance it was soul.
So he put down his scores for it.
I put down my personal scores for it, what I thought the movie deserved and then it averages
out to the score that we are going to be throwing into our algorithm.
So our combined scores are going to make up the overall final grade for movies.
And so when we start recording we already know what the movie is going to get.
I already know what this movie is going to score.
Rose doesn't.
I want it to kind of be a surprise for Rose.
Yeah I don't know anything.
All I know is my scores.
That's all I know.
Yeah so this way we don't spend so much time talking about numbers.
We can get more into the meat of the categories that we grade.
We loved about it, we hated about it, what life inspiration we took from it.
More or less justify our score to you guys.
And we'll start it off just say oh this category got this number and this is why.
So just kind of make us a little bit better critics hopefully.
Maybe.
We'll find out.
We'll see.
And also make it a little bit more fun with guests too because I think we confuse the
hell out of guests sometimes.
Yeah.
As much as they don't want to admit it I'm sure we do.
So I think this will be a much better system hopefully.
And if you guys hate it let us know.
Message us, DM us, hit us up anywhere.
Like we will freaking listen.
If you want us to go back to the old way of doing it we'll go back to the old way of doing
it.
But if you just say oh this sucks and don't give us constructive criticisms on why it
sucks we're probably going to tell you go to hell.
We're going to keep doing it the new way.
Yeah.
So be constructive.
Let us know what we can be doing better.
Don't just put us down.
Don't be a dick.
So anyway.
And then when there's like a situation where maybe me and Rose vary like really highly
on a score for something.
I have who is the one that jacked it up.
And so we can argue amongst ourselves on a number and maybe we can even change a number.
Yeah.
There we go.
So yeah it's just more so we're not sitting there being like oh what do you think blah
blah blah.
And like oh I'm sitting around it blah blah blah.
We already know.
So hopefully it makes our our breakdowns a little bit more enjoyable to listen to.
Guess we'll find.
But we're still going to be continuing question of the week.
We're still continuing all of that stuff.
That's just how our show is evolving in the new year.
Twenty twenty one is a updated Alvarez podcast.
Yeah boy.
And don't worry.
So it's going to it might be a week or two before it changes.
But the main event song or intro or whatever you want to call it.
The one for the main event our main our intro intro is going to stay the same.
We're still going to show a promo.
And if you actually we should freaking promote that more.
If you have a promo and you want to send it to us we will put it in the next show.
It's seriously first come first serve.
And I cycle through them.
So once you send us your your promo it's going to be in our rotation for the next ever.
Yeah.
So send us your promos the Elbrows channel gmail.com.
And so we'll continue to do promos and then we will continue to do or we'll be changing
the main event intro song when when we can come up with a good idea.
So it's going to stay the main event for a little bit until we can change it to the headliner.
We'll call it the headliner.
The song will call it a main event.
It's just going to be a confusing time for everyone until we figure our shit out.
So yeah those are the changes that we're making.
So now I I hand it off back off to you Rose.
Well thank you.
Shit.
OK.
So OK.
So after that amazing explanation what do you say we talk about our top five movies
of 2020.
Let's do it.
All right.
So.
Caleb do you want to go first with you.
OK.
Do we want to rank one to five or five to one.
I want to do this.
That's tough.
I really.
I have no idea.
I feel we should go five to one.
That's just me.
Five to one.
Yeah.
OK.
I can definitely do that.
OK.
Do you want to start or do you want me to.
I'll start.
We'll finish with your your number one.
OK.
So my number five is actually one that surprised the hell out of me.
My number five is Mulan.
Really.
Yeah.
Shit.
I actually enjoyed the hell out of this movie.
Wow.
OK.
Like.
And.
Grant it.
So this is going to be one of our first episodes in February.
So frickin come at me.
I expect a lot of people to come at you.
Yeah probably.
If you're going into it expecting a shot for shot remake of Mulan or the exact same Mulan
story you're going to go in disappointed.
Lion King.
Excuse me.
If you can if you can let go of the fact that this is a different Mulan story.
It's not bad.
OK.
There's a lot of things that they set up in this world that you like us.
What's that called.
There's a lot of disbelief in this movie.
So you kind of have to be a little forgiving of that.
But once you let go of that it's a fun movie.
It's a like really well done.
I enjoyed the ever living hell out of it.
So that's why it made my number five.
OK.
Very very nice.
All right.
So what is your number five.
Number five.
I have Sonic the Hedgehog.
To me this was probably the biggest surprise of 2020 because you know with the whole redesign
everyone hated the first design.
So you know they did all that they could to remake it.
The design looks fantastic.
But I feel people were still really hesitant on if a Sonic the Hedgehog movie could work.
And I feel they pulled it off very very well.
I just did not expect them to be able to pull off a super fast.
I'm butchering this.
I'm sorry.
I did not expect them to be able to pull off a super fast hedgehog in a frickin movie as
well as they did.
I thought this would only work in a video game.
But no it works in a movie.
Jim Carrey is I feel like everyone loves him as Eggman.
I liked him.
He's not like the Eggman I know until like the like end credits.
I love that part when he actually looks like Dr. Eggman.
That was frickin fantastic.
So I can't wait to see what they do with him in the sequel.
But yeah.
Ben.
How was it.
I forget who played the voice of Sonic.
But he was a made.
He was amazing.
James Marsden was really good.
He was like I don't I don't know what else to say beside this movie is just I was amazed
that this movie actually frickin worked and I had a frickin blast with it.
So that is my number five.
Absolutely.
Ben Schwartz.
Yes.
Thank you.
Fantastic.
Sonic.
Amazing.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up number four.
So my number four is actually going to be The Five Bloods.
Oh OK.
The Netflix movie.
Nice.
That was one that I wasn't expecting to enjoy as much as I did because I'm not really into
war movies.
I'm not not the biggest fan but this was a really good movie just kind of sharing.
A lot of the the history that we may not know and some of the struggles of what that history
has left behind.
So I I enjoyed the hell out of it.
Chadwick Mosman.
Fantastic.
But you can't argue with like the old men at that time.
No.
You can't.
Of that movie.
They were.
So good.
If you have not seen this movie.
If you have a weak stomach probably would hold off.
But it was.
Yeah.
There's a lot of amazing.
Like holy shit.
Yeah.
What did The Five Bloods.
We gave The Five Bloods like a very strong B plus.
It was seriously point two percent away from an A minus.
So if you guys trust our rating system at all.
Go check it out.
Yes.
Please do.
It's it's pretty good.
I think Caleb liked it a little more than I did.
I still really liked it.
But it for me it's not it's not a top five movie of the year but I can absolutely understand
why it made your top five.
Especially number four.
Yeah.
So what is your number four.
Number four for me.
Oh sorry.
Number four for me is Bill and Ted Face the Music.
Oh yeah.
So me and Caleb watched the first two I think like a month before the third one came out.
And so I was pretty hyped for this movie because I love the characters of Bill and Ted.
Alex Winter and Keanu Reeves are amazing together.
They have amazing chemistry.
And this third movie did not disappoint at all.
It was amazing seeing these two back together again.
It was definitely weird seeing Keanu Reeves act like this character again.
I felt like Alex Winter never left the role.
But it's a little weird seeing Keanu Reeves back in this role.
It took you a minute to get used to it especially him not having a beard.
But once you get used to it it's a blast from start to finish.
Their daughters Bill is it's Billy and Thea right.
Yep.
Yeah Billy and Thea are amazing.
I wish that we could get a spinoff with them.
Just I really don't have a lot of bad things to say about this movie.
It's a great third movie.
I had a blast and yeah that's why it's my number four.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Yeah Bill and Ted didn't make my list.
I mean that's understandable.
I get that.
Yeah.
But my number three is Sonic the Hedgehog.
Nice.
Hell yeah.
Which we already talked about so I'm not going to get into it again.
So you're number three.
Okay.
Everything I said you agree with.
Yeah pretty much.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
Okay.
But how did you feel about Jim Carrey's Eggman?
Like do you feel the same way I did or are you different?
I didn't hate him.
I didn't really care for like the over the top stuff until the end.
When he actually looked like Dr. Eggman.
I think it just grew on you over time.
Yeah.
Okay.
So hopefully that comes into play later on.
I think that'd be really fun.
I hope so too.
All right.
My number three.
I have The Invisible Man.
I freaking loved this movie.
This is a great horror movie to me.
Oh shit I forgot the main actress's name.
Do you remember off the top of your head?
Elizabeth Moss.
Thank you.
Phenomenal.
Oh my gosh.
She carries this movie and I feel that's kind of the point.
She kind of had to just the way her character is written and she's amazing.
The way they explain how this guy is able to make himself invisible is very, very interesting.
I walked into this movie not knowing that much about it because the trailer didn't really
give a lot away and walked out being like, holy shit, that is like one of the biggest
surprises I've seen in a while.
Probably that was like the biggest surprise for me for 2020.
I can't say enough good things about this movie.
It's a great horror film.
Very, it has so much suspense and it's well earned.
I think there is a couple of jump scares and they're also well earned as well.
It's not cheap jump scares.
So yeah, if you guys haven't seen The Invisible Man, go check it out.
It's amazing.
Hell yeah.
And if you haven't heard our breakdown on it, go back and listen to that.
Most of these movies, wait no, literally, except for Mulan, so far all these movies
we've done breakdowns for.
Yeah but like we said, we'll do Mulan in February.
Yes.
It's not that far off.
Yeah.
All right, so we're on number two.
Yes.
So my number two is actually The Invisible Man.
Hell yeah, man.
Hell yeah, bro.
Which we already discussed it, so.
I feel bad now.
I'm taking it out of your head.
Not going to put you guys through it again.
If you guys want to hear our thoughts, go listen to our breakdown episode.
It was so much fun.
It really was.
So I think that leaves our number one.
Wait, did you already list your number two?
Yeah, my number two is The Invisible Man.
Oh, okay, so I still got to list my number two.
Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry.
What's your number two?
Wow, rude.
Sorry, geez.
I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
Okay, so I kind of tossed around because you know how we had two Pixar movies this year,
Soul and Onward, and I loved them both, but I thought, you know, what movie kind of had
more of an impact on me?
What more movie do I feel I'm going to actually revisit more?
And actually, my number two is Onward because shockingly, yeah, I know.
I freaking loved Onward.
What's amazing is that Onward made me cry, but Soul did not.
I got close with Soul, but I did not cry.
And usually, I've cried in every single Pixar movie, but I didn't in Soul, which really
surprised me.
I mean, maybe with a second time through, I might.
But just the dynamic between Barley and, wow, Ian is amazing.
I mean, I didn't have a...
I never had a brother growing up.
Caleb's the closest thing I've ever had to a brother.
So even though I'm not able to relate to that, I still love the hell out of this movie.
I think the story is really good.
And the ending takes you by surprise of the kind of twist that they give you.
You expect it to go one way, and they're just like, psych, we're going this way.
And the way that they go is amazing.
I actually... it's kind of like someone just shot off a gun here.
Sorry.
But I did not expect them to go the way that they did, but I love that they did.
People consider this...
I feel some people say that this is just kind of like an OK Pixar movie.
To me, this ranks pretty high for them.
But yeah, so Onward is my number two.
That's a great number two.
Yeah, so if you guys don't know, we did a breakdown on that episode... or if we did a...
We did a breakdown on that movie as well.
Didn't we have a special guest on that one?
We sure did.
We were joined by Laura Beth from the Twenty Fun Podcast.
So go listen to that episode and also go check out Laura Beth's show.
I think it's at Twenty Fun Pod.
I think so too.
And she actually just graduated college, so...
Yes she did.
Yeah.
So congratulations, Laura Beth.
Jinx, you owe me a sprite.
Whatever.
We're so out of sync.
Shut up.
Doesn't count.
Alright, let's hear your number one.
Alright, my number one is The Hunt.
Shit, nah, really?
I loved that movie, dude.
I freaking loved the ever living shit out of that movie.
It was so freaking fun.
It just... so wild.
It was just...
It's like strapping into a freaking roller coaster.
It is so, so good.
We did an episode on this movie as well.
I personally would have given it a little bit higher of a score.
We... well, people are going to have to go listen to that breakdown episode if they want
to hear it.
Oh yes, I'm sorry.
Yeah, but it didn't score as high as I wanted it to.
But... oh, so much freaking fun, dude.
So much fun.
I have so much good things to say about that movie.
It's one that's scored average, I would say.
But I think my enjoyment of the movie freaking just skyrockets it for me.
So yeah, that's why it's my number one of 2020.
Fair enough.
All right, so my number one of 2020 is... and Caleb, he will not hear me shut up about
this movie.
But my number one is The Prom, which was the Netflix original movie that shut up, okay?
You still need to watch it, bitch.
Good hell.
Shut up.
You still need to watch it, bitch, okay?
Yeah, I know.
This movie made me remember why I freaking miss acting.
Because I used to do drama, musical theater, and this made me freaking miss it.
It's a great musical, great acting.
I know James Corden got a lot of shit for being a straight man playing a gay character.
I can't say anything on that.
I feel he did a really good job.
That's just my opinion.
But Andrew Reynolds, Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, Jordan...
Wow, I almost said Jordan Key.
Keegan-Reichel Key.
Wow.
Combine the names.
He's going to say, wrong one.
The cast is amazing.
The songs are amazing.
The message is amazing.
The final number, I can't stop listening to that song because it gives a message that
you really wish could be the norm in this day and age.
I truly hope that one day that we can get to that.
I can't say enough good about this movie.
Please go watch it.
I'm going to finally shut up about it, Caleb, even though we will be doing a breakdown of
this movie in February.
Bitch, you need to watch it soon.
So I can finally talk to somebody about it.
Yeah.
Dude, I can't believe people are giving James Corden shit for playing a gay dude.
I think it's just because some people who are gay men don't act like that.
But a video that I watched actually gave a very interesting reason for why the director
who is actually an openly gay man cast James Corden.
And it's the fact that the character of Barry Glickman is written as an oversized, I don't
want to say oversized because that is not what James Corden is, but maybe just like
a bigger guy in his like, like heavier set.
Yeah.
In his like mid forties.
And so in Hollywood, that's unfortunately looked down upon.
It's very hard to find an actor that is in that type of shape.
And so I feel that James Corden was probably on the top of the list and it was a very small
list and I don't blame, I forget who directed this, but I don't blame him for choosing James
Corden because yes, he is, he is not gay, but he is a really good actor.
He is a really good singer.
He's proven this time and time again, like into the woods, we don't talk about cats,
but you know, when it comes to his singing, it was not bad in that movie.
But so like I said, like I, while I can't talk for gay men that don't agree with how
he portrayed this role, the fact that Ryan, I think it's Ryan Murphy, who is an openly
gay man, wanted James Corden to play it and he directed him to act this way.
It makes me think, okay, this is actually how the character was written.
This is how he was performed on Broadway and Ryan Murphy wanted James Corden to act the
exact same way.
So like I said, I can't, I'm going to keep saying this because I don't want to get any
hate.
Like I can't answer for openly gay men that think that his performance is offensive.
I, you know, if you're coming from that direction, I can completely understand.
But for me, I think he did a great job and I loved him in this movie.
Yeah.
I, I have a difficult time with, with that, like the, with people getting upset at someone
straight playing gay or whatever.
Yeah.
It's ups, it kind of sucks because you're, they're actors.
Yeah, exactly.
Like they're there to play a part.
Like I absolutely understand like why people would be upset.
Like, I mean, don't get me wrong.
Like I understand why people would be mad.
Yeah.
But with how limited Hollywood is on their, the selection of people, like, I mean, you
can think about it.
The, the selection, like celebrities, the list isn't very big.
No, it's not.
It's like the, the same, same people and it's just what demographic did they happen to fit
in?
I absolutely agree that like, if you write someone as a certain race, that you should
get someone of that race to play that person.
But when it comes to like the sexuality of a person, whether it's like a gay man playing
straight, straight man playing gay, whatever, I think it should be more focused on who's
telling the story, not who's portraying the story.
Yeah, no, no, I absolutely agree.
So it's kind of like, and I know I'm probably going to sound like a bigot saying this, but
a gay man was telling this story.
So he wanted the guy to be James Gordon's character to be a bit more flamboyant.
Otherwise he probably would have told James, Hey, dial it down.
Yeah, yeah.
See, exactly.
Like that's not James's fault.
Yeah.
I've seen how Barry Glickman acts on in the Broadway show because the actor that played
him while it was on Broadway is an openly gay man.
And from what I've seen, I do see like the big movements, you know, stuff like that.
So I feel James Gordon took a lot of inspiration from that.
And I feel that's what Ryan Murphy wanted him to do.
I just feel people are kind of mad that even though like maybe like some openly gay men
do that, it's just, I don't like that it's coming from a guy that is straight.
But it's not is what I'm getting.
Yeah, no, no, no, I absolutely agree.
The portrayal is coming from James.
Like, absolutely.
Like, you can't dispute that.
He's friggin on screen.
But it's not coming from James.
James didn't decide to do that.
He got cast in a role and was probably directed to do that.
And it's like the same with like other people.
Like with I know Scarlett Johansson was getting a whole like a bunch of shit for I don't think
she ever did it, but she was supposed to portray a transgender person.
Oh, okay.
But she was catching a lot of shit saying and I think she gave up the role and said,
no, a transgender person should be playing this.
And okay.
I don't know who is directing it, but I do feel like if it's who's telling the story.
Yeah.
I feel like you should only really be like I don't think that either of us we could tell
I don't think we either of us could tell a story of like an African American man or sorry,
I know we're not supposed to say that anymore.
That we couldn't tell the story of black men.
Yes.
Or we couldn't tell the story of like Asians and their struggle.
Like I don't think we could tell those types of stories.
I think we could definitely tell stories using black men.
Yes.
But I don't think we could tell the story of like a struggle or whatever because we've
never lived that we don't understand.
Yeah, exactly.
So I think with with stuff like that.
If whoever's telling the story is portraying a struggle, I think they should have some
knowledge some firsthand experience of that struggle.
So like with the with Scarlett Johansson, I don't know it.
I don't think the director was is was transgender.
So I don't think that he was the right person to be telling the story.
But if the director had been transgender and they said, yeah, Scarlett Johansson is the
person I want to play in this movie.
Then I think like I feel like that's OK.
Yeah, I could be wrong.
But again, this is coming from a straight white dude.
And this is all personal opinion, guys.
We're not trying to offend anybody.
This is this is just how we feel on the subject.
Yeah.
So before we dig ourselves into a bigger hole, I think we're digging ourselves into a hole.
I feel we've been we've given good reason why we feel about this.
Yeah.
But we're not so we're our opinions aren't super strong because.
We aren't part of that community, but we support those that are.
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
You do.
Like you all are amazing for having the courage to come out.
I absolutely applaud you.
And I just truly hope that when you did come out, that you were accepted and loved.
And it honestly breaks my heart seeing people that especially like what happens in this
movie when people are rejected, shunned, just just written off just because that just because
they are interested in someone that is the exact same sex.
And it truly breaks my heart.
That should never change how you feel about someone.
And I'm starting to tear up a little bit.
Can we please move on to the next subject?
Yeah.
So if you want to let us know that we're being bigots and want to tell us that we're we're
wrong in our opinions, feel free to do so.
We we're not going to argue.
We're not.
But yeah.
All right, Caleb, what do you say we jump into our main event of the evening?
Don't you mean our headliner?
Our headliner.
Gosh, damn it.
I already f'd it up.
Wow.
OK, shit.
Rose, come on.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
What do you say we jump into our headliner of the evening?
I say let's make it happen.
All right.
Time for the main event.
It's main event time.
Let's play a game.
All right.
So with this week's All Bros Headliner, I'm going to start saying it like that.
Do it.
Hell yeah.
OK, cool.
I got your approval.
So with this week's All Bros Headliner, we'll be talking about Disney Pixar's newest film
Soul, which started streaming on Disney Plus last week on Christmas Day.
And I actually watched it on Christmas Day.
I caught up on a lot of streaming movies I was behind on on Christmas Day.
I don't know about you.
When did you watch it, Caleb?
I watched it on Tuesday.
OK, nice.
Yeah.
But before we get into the breakdown, we do have a question of the week that we posted.
Thank you for butting in with that because I almost forgot.
Yeah, so we posted a question on social media and asked, what is something or your spark
that makes you unique?
Kind of has to tie into to the movie.
But anyway, we got a few responses.
So starting off on Instagram, we got a response from our good buddy, Jason, over at party
naked pod.
Or from Shit Happens When You Party Naked at Party Naked Pod.
And he said, I have three testicles.
American dream.
I love it.
Jason always hits us with something freaking hilarious.
Like, anytime I see Party Naked Pod replied, I'm like, oh, that's gonna be great.
Better brace yourselves.
Oh, yeah.
So thank you, Jason.
Now everyone knows that you have three testicles.
Hell yeah.
You're living the dream of like 95 percent of males in this country.
So what?
I'm just kidding.
What the hell is wrong with you?
A lot as you've picked up over the years.
All right.
Next up, moving over to Twitter, we got a question from our good buddy, Jason.
All right, next up, moving over to Twitter, we got a response from the Royal Mumble Podcast
at Mumble Royal.
They said my ability to compare anything in casual conversation to retro wrestling sports.
It's very specific, but at underscore Trudell underscore knows what I mean.
I love it.
I don't know what else to say to that except for I love that.
I think it's kind of similar to our ability to compare anything to a movie.
OK.
So, OK, if that's the case, I think it's fucking better.
I love you even more now.
Yeah.
Dude, I do that so often when someone's sharing a story and I'm like, oh, it's kind of like
this movie.
And they're like, kind of, but this is really my life.
And I'm like, oh, yeah.
I mean, duh.
But yeah, that's a very specific thing to know how to do.
But good on you.
You do you fantastic.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up, we got a response from the Victims and Villains Podcast at Victims and Villains.
And he said it has a stigma around it.
My spark is mental health and making the conversation real and authentic.
All right.
Yeah.
That's a cool spark.
And if you guys have not listened to Victims and Villains, do it.
Yes.
It's a freaking amazing show.
I love it.
But yeah.
So go check it out.
Please.
But yeah, I think that's a very important spark to have.
I think it's a...
I absolutely agree.
That's a really good one.
I think mental health is something that people struggle talking about.
And I think if it feels like a forced or a conversation, or not even, not a conversation,
if it feels like an interview, I think it could feel awkward.
When it feels like a conversation, that's when it's like amazing.
Yeah.
So thank you, Victims and Villains, for your response.
Thank you so much.
All right.
Then the last response we got is from Much Talk About Nothing, a movie podcast, at MTAN
podcast.
Okay.
If you really quickly...
Sorry.
I just want to point out this.
I really want to know...
If you guys are listening, is your podcast kind of like a playoff of much to do about
nothing?
I really want to know.
Much to do about nothing?
Yeah.
I think it's a Shakespeare play.
Ooh, that is a very good question.
So if you guys are listening, please reach out and let us know.
Because if it is, that's awesome.
Well, message us on Twitter, obviously, because that's where we're reading your response from.
Yeah.
So let us know if that's where you got the wordplay from, Much To Do About Nothing.
Yeah.
All right.
So they said, I, at The Grant Ingram, am a podcast host, which isn't that unique, but
I'm also in my late teens.
I'm good at making deals and finding guests, and I am told I have a very good voice for
it.
Not going to argue with that.
My spark is talking to people.
I love every minute of it.
Thank you for the opportunity to share.
You're so sophisticated for only being a teenager.
Damn.
A late teen.
Yeah, okay, a late teen.
Like, damn.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's really good at talking.
Really good with guests.
Kind of makes, like when you compare it to how we are with guests, very awkward.
I mean, but we're just awkward people in general.
Yeah, we are.
I mean, it's authentic.
That's true.
I mean, honestly.
I'm pretending to be awkward.
No, like sometimes we're awkward to each other.
It's a shocker, right?
Oh yeah.
But yeah, I kind of admire the people that don't have a hard time communicating with
people, because I am not a good communicator.
I mean, it's gotten better for me since working in the grocery business.
Just a little bit.
But yeah, in high school I used to be a lot worse, but I'm still not like an expert.
Oh yeah, I can testify to that.
Asshole.
Yeah.
All right, but that's all the responses that we got this week.
So thank you everyone for your responses.
Thank you so much.
Excellent answers.
As always, absolutely.
All right, getting into this breakdown finally.
So we have split, if you guys are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into
eight different categories that we individually grade to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
And the eight categories that we grade are story, writing, acting, character development,
effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade at the very end.
So now, so this is our first time doing it where we've already filled in the boxes.
It's going to be interesting.
It's going to be kind of weird.
Yeah.
So our job now is to justify the score that we gave the movie.
Which I actually think this is going to work out very, very well.
It's going to let us be able to talk about the movie a lot more.
I think it will too.
So for those of you who have not seen this movie, spoiler alerts ahead.
Yes.
Like, if you guys want this movie spoiled for you, I mean, I get that.
I hate when movies are spoiled for me, but that's just me.
But I feel this is a movie that should not be spoiled for anyone.
This is Pixar at its best.
Just go watch this movie, please.
It's on Disney Plus right now.
I'm sure someone that you know has a Disney Plus account, so hopefully it's not too hard
to find somewhere to watch it.
But yes, please, please go watch Soul.
It's so good.
Yeah.
So for those of you that have continued to listen on, Rose is going to read the synopsis
for the movie.
I don't see how many times I've missed that.
To kind of share what the story was about.
Yeah.
So everyone get prepared for Reading with Rose with two E's.
Oh, shit.
All right, so Joe Gardner, a middle school music teacher in New York City, feels stuck
in life and unfulfilled at his job.
He dreams of a career in jazz to which his seamstress mother, Libba, objects, fearing
that he will not be financially secure.
By chance, his former student, Curly, informs him of an opening in the band of jazz.
Caleb, are you okay?
Yep.
Just copping up along.
I'm good.
What?
I thought you said blood.
What?
You're really coughing up blood?
A lung.
Oh, a lung.
And it was a joke.
Oh, I thought you said blood.
I'm like, hey, whoa, bro.
I was trying not to be rude.
Oh, okay.
I'm sorry.
When I see you like dying over here, I got to make sure you're okay.
I wasn't.
Okay.
I swallowed wrong earlier today and it really jacked up my throat.
So yeah.
Okay.
All right, anyway.
So continue reading and thanks for calling me out on the show.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
By chance, his former student, Curly, informs him of an opening in the band of jazz legend,
Dorothea.
Is it still Dorothea, right?
I think it's Dorothea.
Oh, it is Dorothea.
Okay.
Never mind.
I think so.
I think that's what he was saying.
Okay.
Oh yeah, I think it is Dorothea.
Okay.
So Dorothea Williams.
He impresses Dorothea with his piano playing and is offered the job on the spot.
As Joe happily heads off to prepare for his first performance later that night, he falls
down a manhole.
Joe finds himself as a soul heading into the great beyond.
Unwilling to die before his big break, he tries to escape but ends up in the great before
where soul counselors, all named Jerry, prepare unborn souls for life on earth.
Joe poses as an instructor who is set to train the souls and is assigned to 22, a cynical
soul who has remained in the great before for millennia and sees no point in living
on earth.
22 reveals that she has a badge that fills up with traits.
She needs to find her spark to complete it and says she will give it to Joe so that he
can return home.
Joe tries to assist 22 in finding a passion but the attempts prove futile.
With no other options, 22 takes him out to the zone, an area that people enter when their
passion sets them into a euphoric trance.
It also houses the lost souls who become obsessed.
They meet Moonwind, a sign twirler who enters the zone to rescue lost souls.
He agrees to help Joe return to his body and they learn that Joe has been in a coma since
his fall.
Joe excitedly hops back to earth but accidentally brings 22 with him, resulting in 22 entering
his body and Joe ending up in the body of a therapy cat.
Meanwhile, Terry, an accountant designated to counting souls headed to the great beyond,
finds the count off and convinces the Jerrys to let her go into earth to search for the
missing soul.
22 and Joe escape the hospital.
Initially frightened, 22 settles into Joe's body and finds great enjoyment in the little
things in life.
They head to Joe's apartment where Connie, one of Joe's students, arrives to tell him
that she is quitting the band.
Before leaving, Connie plays a passionate trombone solo, stunning 22, who convinces
her of the talent she has and that music is for her.
Happy, Connie thanks Joe and leaves, having changed her mind.
They next go to get a haircut where 22 holds a deep poignant conversation with Des, the
barber.
After 22 rips Joe's pants while bending down, the duo goes to see Libba to have it fixed.
Joe reconciles with his mother, who finally accepts Joe's passion for music and offers
him his late father's old suit.
Before Moonwind can restore Joe, 22, who experiences an epiphany and decides she must find her
purpose on earth, refuses to proceed with the restoration.
As she flees with Joe tailing behind, Terry catches up and brings both back to the great
before where 22 realizes that her badge has been filled out.
However, Joe insists that the badge came from his experiences and tastes.
Angry, 22 tosses the badge at Joe and disappears into the zone.
Joe learns from a Jerry that instead of a life's purpose, a spark simply means that
a soul is ready to live.
Joe heads back to earth and has a successful first performance with the Dorothea Quartet.
The experience, however, does not turn out to be as fulfilling as Joe expected it to
be.
Worse, he is expected to replicate the same underwhelming experience night after night.
Realizing his senseless and selfish ways with 22, he decides to go back to help her.
Inspired by the objects 22 collected while in his body, Joe plays the piano to enter
the zone and look for 22, who is now a lost soul.
He tries to return her badge, but 22 remains hopeless and broken.
Using a small maple seed that 22 had kept, Joe convinces her that she is ready to live
and she returns to normal.
With her badge back, 22 finally enters earth with Joe accompanying her for as long as he
can.
As he prepares to head into the great beyond, Joe is stopped by a Jerry who tells him that
he has inspired them and will give him another chance at life.
Joe accepts and returns to his body on earth, now ready to live and appreciate a happier,
more relaxed life.
Okay, now that we've spoiled the whole movie, Caleb, I want to get your opinion because...
So I watched...
Do you watch Nostalgia Critic at all?
I do, but just on some of the older movies.
I don't watch his reviews of movies unless I've seen them.
So I haven't watched the one on...
Okay, no, I was wondering.
So he reviewed Soul to finish off Disney's number, what he does every year.
The way that he reacted to the ending of this movie, he felt alone.
And I actually do agree with him.
I feel Joe should have gone to the great beyond.
I feel that he should not have gotten this second chance.
I feel that when after he had finished playing that set, he realized that maybe this is not
as big as I thought.
And then earlier on in the movie, he finally realizes that actually maybe the life that
I thought was horrible actually wasn't that bad.
It was the small moments that made it a life worth living.
His dad introducing him to jazz, how his mom was there for him, the impact that he had
as a teacher on his students.
That student Curly reaching out and saying, hey, I know how much of a big jazz player
you are.
You honestly, you were the only reason that I went to music class because you were such
a great teacher and that's why I'm still in the business.
And he was giving him his big shot.
And just seeing those little moments, seeing how they actually made his life worth living.
I feel that, and this is just me kind of being blunt, that you don't get a second chance
to live the life that you live.
That's the life that you got to live.
And I get that Joe was able to surprise them.
But I feel that the fact that towards the end, after he gives the emblem to 22, he's
finally accept that, okay, I lived the life that I was supposed to.
I'm happy with what I got.
I think I'm ready to move on.
But the fact that he actually gets a second chance, and it seems like he's kind of hesitant
for a minute, but the fact that he does take it, I don't know, I'm a little hesitant on
it.
I feel that it should have been his time.
What do you think?
I probably, I do agree with you that the second chance at living was a bit of a, I think it
could have ended with him entering the great beyond.
Yeah.
But I don't think Disney was willing to be like, okay, yeah, he just died.
Okay, fair enough.
So, hey, but that would have been like a good life lesson for kids.
Okay.
That's fair.
I personally would have gone the route of maybe making him becoming, what was the term
for the people that help the souls?
Oh, a mentor.
Yeah.
I think they should have offered him a position as a mentor.
Because yeah, the Nostalgia Critic actually pointed that out too.
He would have either loved to see him actually go to the great beyond or see him become a
mentor.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
I would have loved to see that.
Yeah, I think that would have been a little bit better.
Have him kind of be the mentor to help souls that have a hard time finding their spark.
Yeah, they need just like a little bit more of a push.
Yeah.
I would have preferred that.
Yeah, no, I can absolutely agree with that.
So I'm glad to hear that we both kind of agree that the whole second chance thing was kind
of, it came out of nowhere for me.
I'm just like, wait, okay.
I get that he surprised you guys, but that's kind of bullshit.
Nobody gets a second chance at life.
Yeah.
But then you also, okay, you also got to think he went, he didn't like die the second time.
Okay.
I mean, fair enough.
He went to the zone and then he was offered.
Because you got to think if he would have off or taken the great beyond thing, he would
have just died at his piano.
Okay.
That's a good point.
That's a very good point.
Yeah.
I think Pixar or Disney, whoever's idea this was.
Pixar.
I'm assuming.
Yeah.
Like I think they wrote themselves in a bit of a tough area.
A little bit.
That they weren't ready to handle.
It's like, shit, do we actually tell people that once you die, that's it?
Like, sorry.
Like there's no way getting off of that great beyond train.
Yeah.
I feel like they, they had an ending to this where maybe he did go into the great beyond,
but I think maybe they showed it to kids and the kids were like, wait, so he just died
at his piano and they're like, yeah, we can't really do that.
Okay.
I want to see that alternate ending.
Pixar, Pete doctor, put that on the Blu ray bonus features.
Yeah.
I mean, I know there's going to be a Blu ray release of this cause they did that for Mulan
and that was a Disney plus exclusive.
So yeah.
So I personally would have done something a little bit different.
So he's still alive.
It's just different.
Okay.
That's fair.
Like, like I said, being more of like in the mentor role.
Yeah.
I think that's a great place to put them.
Yeah.
So this, the grade that, or the score that we gave the story is a 91.
It was a very, very strong story.
It it Joe's just, I loved like one of the things that they talked about it or was with
Dorothea.
It was a moment between Joe and Dorothea.
It was just after the performance and he was saying, I thought I would have felt different.
And then she shares this story of a fish and she's saying, and there's this fish and he's
just like, I want to go to the ocean.
I want to go to the ocean.
And then now the fish comes along and says, this is it.
And he's just like, this is what?
And he's like, this is the ocean.
And he's just like, no, this is just water.
I want the ocean.
And that little story fricking stuck with me like crazy.
Really?
Cause I'm like, it's true.
Like, like, I don't know.
I don't know like what in my life I can compare it to.
It's just like you like, okay, here's this.
When Iris was born, I thought that my, like I knew that my entire life was changing.
As soon as we found out that Brielle was pregnant and I was expecting like when she, when Iris
was going to be born, that it was going to be some magical, like some switches had flipped.
And it was just like, okay, now everything is different.
And now I have a baby.
Now I'm a dad.
And I did have those, I do have those feel, did have those feelings a little bit, not
as much, like it wasn't like a fricking switch.
It was just kind of like, now I don't even know how to explain it.
It's just kind of like when she was born, it kind of felt like nothing had really changed.
It's just now she's outside.
Okay.
And it's kind of, it was kind of like that, like that feeling.
It's like, this is the, this is the ocean.
And I think that could be said with like everything, like when I turned 18, 18 feels exactly like
17.
It's true.
And 17 feels exactly like 16.
Yeah.
And it like the same deal, like 20, I'm and you, your birthday's today.
Yeah, I just turned 25.
I'm halfway to 50 guys, but yeah, I feel nothing different.
Like I think like 20, I don't know, is like 25 supposed to be like a huge fricking deal?
Cause it doesn't really feel like anything.
I mean, now you can rent a car.
I mean, that's true.
That's true.
Fricking road trip to Georgia.
Yeah.
But it's just, it things like that.
24 doesn't feel very different from 25.
Yeah.
I mean, when you turn 25, you gotta tell me if you feel any different.
I mean, my bones are still older.
I probably won't.
I probably won't because 23 feels like 24.
Yeah.
But it's looking back at everything.
Like what feels different is 10 to 25.
That's true.
Or 24.
That feels like a huge gap.
Yeah.
But like the day to day, like almost even year to year, it doesn't feel like the changes
are insignificant.
Yeah, they really are.
And I think that that's something like, I think everyone puts like a big thing like,
oh, I want this, I want this.
And it's just like, is yeah, but is that what's going to give your life meaning?
I think kind of what you're touching upon is a lot of people forget like the little
moments, like everyone, you know, when they graduate high school, they have this set agenda.
Like, you know, I want to go to college.
I want to get a good job.
I want to get married.
I want to have kids.
I want to get a nice house.
You know, I want to live the American dream.
I want to have the perfect life.
And I feel as you're shooting for all of those goals, you miss like the little moments.
You miss the moments that make life worth living because I feel if it was all just agenda
after agenda after agenda, life would not be worth living.
I know that's like f'ed up to say, but I'm sorry.
It would not be worth living.
Like this podcast, for instance, this is something that I get to look forward to every single
week doing with Caleb.
It brings happiness to my week.
It's something that, like I said, I get to look forward to.
And in essence, I hope and this doesn't sound like freaking dark, but it makes life worth
living because even though, you know, like we're not in the same place anymore, at least
I still get to talk with my bro about the stuff that we both absolutely love and get
to nerd out with each other and it makes the stress of like the weekly agenda go away because
it's just me being able to talk about the stuff I love with my best bro.
And it's moments like that that make life worth living.
Yeah, I absolutely agree with that.
But yeah, I think this could also be like mixed in like this.
What we're talking about with the story of this and why it's scored so high is because
there's a lot of shit in this that can resonate with you.
Yeah, for real though.
If you let it.
Like this could be like a very, I feel like this is a movie that you could break down
philosophically like really well.
For real though, like honestly, I feel this is like the, you know, like everyone's like
saying like, oh, this is the movie 2020 needed for like certain movies they loved.
This is like when it comes to like realizing that even though things are so different,
but realizing why life is truly beautiful, why it's worth living.
This is the movie that people need to watch in 2020, even though 2020 ends in a couple
hours.
Absolutely.
So I mean, I think 91 accurately shows that this movie, if the movie flows really well,
there's a really good deep message in between the comedy of the movie.
And I think there's a lot that people could get out of this.
So I'm very happy with the 91.
I absolutely am too.
That is a great score for this Pixar movie.
Yeah.
So next up we got writing and writing ended up getting an 87.5.
So it's a little bit lower than the story.
That's what I mean.
In your opinion, where could the writing have been stronger?
The writing could have been a little bit stronger with I think some of the side characters.
I think some wasted dialogue was with in the barber shop, Paul.
Paul is kind of like a bully to Joe.
Kind of just puts him down, says stupid shit.
I think that's where it kind of took a dive for me.
Paul's not the actual guy that cut his hair, right?
No, Paul is the one that left and that accidentally got sucked into the void.
Oh yeah, okay.
I was going to say because the actual guy that cuts his hair, I loved the conversation
that him and Joe had.
And the fact that after he's done cutting his hair, he points out, you know, usually
all that you like to talk about is jazz and I don't like butt in.
But the fact that you actually wanted to talk about me and my life and my passions, that
actually means a lot to me, Joe.
I loved that conversation they had.
Yeah, and I think those moments were really well written.
It was just a lot of the side stuff, I feel.
No, that's fair.
I mean, how'd you feel with the dialogue for the Jerrys?
What's his name, Terry?
Yeah, Terry.
I think that's where I had the issues.
The Jerrys and the Terrys were awkward.
It was just one Terry.
Okay, that's fair.
I mean, Terry was okay.
Terry was a lot better than Jerry.
Okay, Jerry or Jerrys.
All the Jerrys.
But Jerrys, I feel it could have been written a little bit better, I feel, maybe a little
bit.
I just want to talk about, I mean, we'll get to this with the effects, but the way that
they made the Jerrys look with that, like, looks like it's just 2D, but then it like
turns into 3D when they turn.
That like sent me through a freaking mind loop and it freaked me the hell out the first
time I saw it.
I'm like, wait, what the shit?
Yeah, it kind of blows your mind.
So yeah, because of those issues, I think that's why it got a little bit lower than
the story.
That's fair.
I can understand that.
Yeah.
So next up was acting.
And acting ended up getting a 92.5.
Not bad.
So I think the only ones that we scored were Tina Fey and Jamie Foxx.
Yes.
And I feel from like the promotions, I feel some might have seen Tina Fey's 22.
Alrighty.
Some minor technical difficulties, but we were talking about the great Tina Fey as 22.
Oh shit, gosh damn it.
I was quit breaking shit.
I'm sorry.
It's my elbow.
Blame my elbow.
Anyway, so yeah, as we said, acting has a 92.5.
And this is between Jamie Foxx and Tina Fey.
Yes.
So for you personally, who do you think is a little higher?
Especially Jamie Foxx.
Just because I feel he had to pull off a lot of emotional scenes.
I mean Tina Fey did too.
But especially towards the end with Joe realizing the life that he lived and the life that he
wanted to live.
I feel Jamie Foxx with what lines that he needed to deliver.
He did an amazing job at that.
You got so much emotion from him throughout this whole movie.
Just such an amazing performance by both.
I loved them both.
I forgot to plug my headphones in.
So if you heard Rose echoing for a second, that's why.
We suck this episode.
Yeah, we do.
My goodness.
Anyway, but yeah, I absolutely agree.
I actually gave Tina Fey higher.
Really?
Okay.
I yeah.
The only reason I gave her higher and it was very close margins.
Very very close.
I gave her higher just because I felt like she had to.
I think her emotions were just a bit stronger than him.
That's fair.
And I don't know.
It's hard to explain.
Like you'd have to watch it.
I think it's just yeah, it's just really difficult to explain.
Yeah.
I ended up giving her just a little bit higher.
Maybe a point or two higher.
Okay.
And I was rating them.
But I think they both did an amazing job at portraying that deep emotion and getting upset
with each other and just everything.
Yeah.
It was just it was incredible.
It was so well done.
It really was.
And I didn't think that these characters could actually work with each other.
I thought it would just come across.
I really thought 22 was just going to come across as annoying.
But I never felt that at all.
And I feel a huge oh my gosh.
Wow.
You know what?
Never mind.
I don't know where I was.
I know where I was going with this, but I just don't know the wording.
So Caleb, please take it from me before I make myself look like even more of an idiot.
Yeah, I'm not sure I can do that.
So damn.
Anyway, so but the acting was phenomenal.
The voice acting was phenomenal.
Jamie Foxx, I didn't think that he was going to do as well as he did.
So he gets a bunch of bonus points from me.
So like we said, 92 and a half.
That's averaging them both out.
Not too shabby.
So next up, we got character development.
So I rated Joe.
Yes, I did as well.
Okay, cool.
So Joe, like we talked about as someone, he started off this story as a school teacher
that gets offered a permanent position, like a full time position at the school.
And he kind of gets bummed out because he has these big dreams of being a jazz musician.
And yeah, so as the story progresses, he is constantly trying to get back to being back
to his body so he can go and get this gig with Dorothea Williams, who is a big jazz
saxophone player.
Yes.
Yep.
Yeah, and kind of feels like that's his opportunity to hit the big time, be what he always wanted
to be.
And saying that he was born to be a jazz player, born to be a pianist, and always constantly
talking about what someone's born to do.
But then when he gets put into the cat body, he's able to see everything from a different
perspective.
He's not able to communicate with people like he's able to normally.
He sees a different side to everyone.
He sees a different side to his barber, for one.
Which I loved that scene so much.
Then he gets to see a different side of his mom.
He actually explains himself to his mom.
Or 22 explains him to his mom.
And it's just such a great moment.
And a great series of moments.
And one thing that I'm kind of glad that Pixar did was there was a scene where Joe, as the
cat, is telling 22 in Joe's body what to say to his mom.
And he's like, okay, repeat after me.
And he talks for a little bit.
And then 22 repeats the first sentence.
And then it pans over across to, kind of passes across the back of Joe's mom.
And then it's like a full blown conversation.
You don't hear what Joe's saying as the cat.
And I love that.
I did too.
I love that they didn't make it to where it just keeps going back and forth from cat to
the actual Joe.
I love that they made it to where it was just like it was just a normal conversation between
them too.
Yeah so I feel like he learned a decent amount from there.
And then once it was time for him to come back to his body on his own after helping
22 find her or his or her spark.
It's spark.
I'll say it's spark.
He kind of realizes what the spark was and what the spark actually is.
It's true.
And then kind of comes to his own conclusion that the spark isn't what someone's born
to do.
It's being ready to live life which is profound.
This movie has such a great message.
It's an amazing message.
So yeah so character development ended up getting a 90.
I don't think by any means it's a perfect development.
It's not a perfect character development.
No but everywhere that they take Joe as a character makes sense.
You could see his character going those places and just towards the end when he realizes
the whole you know maybe my life wasn't what I wanted it to be but the way it turned out
in those little moments made it worth living.
And I just loved that part of the development.
So he becomes a better person, better understanding of life and what life actually is I feel.
And again going back to that story that Dorothea told him and him thinking oh I thought I would
feel different and she's just like well you're not going to feel different.
Like this is it.
Like yes you achieve something that you were always going after but you're still living
life.
Like this is it.
This is life.
You just got something different going for you.
And I think that was a moment of clarity for him.
Absolutely agree.
So like we say character development got a 90 just because I think Joe's development
is well above average.
It does have some I feel like the reason it got it didn't get higher was maybe because
there were moments where maybe there was just leaps in the development or things that he
chose to do.
So but I mean that being said it wasn't bad at all.
It was fairly amazing.
No I absolutely agree.
So next up we got effects which is one of our highest scores for this movie.
It is sitting at a very comfortable 98.5.
Okay Caleb I want to know why you did not give the animation a hundred.
What the shit bro.
Okay the reason I didn't give it a hundred and what I actually ended what did I end up
giving it.
I gave it a ninety seven.
Rude.
And the reason I gave it a ninety seven was because of Joe's cat.
What's wrong with the cat.
The cat.
There's just I don't know it was just something was odd about it.
Like the movement.
And I can't put my finger on it but the way that Joe moved as a cat bothered me.
Well I mean it's a human trying to move as a cat of course it's going to be different.
I understand that.
I absolutely understand that.
It's just I don't know.
Alright okay.
I'll never let you.
I can't.
I'll never let you put this one down but you know.
I know I hate myself for it but there's just something about the movement that just didn't
sit right with me.
Hmm.
And like there were moments like a majority of the moments were really well done.
It's just that.
It was just like when they're walking down the street just something doesn't sit right
with me and it would just kind of got under my skin a little bit.
I'm just like what is off.
And I like that's what I honestly narrowed it down to.
I'm just like it has to be the cat.
I don't know what else it could be.
Okay alright.
So yeah but it's seriously a two and a half points away from being a perfect score but
still it's not a perfect score.
Yeah but anyway.
Don't mind me I'm just being a little bitch.
So yeah sitting at a ninety eight and a half and honestly it's only sitting that low because
I can't.
I can't get over the cat movement.
The fact that it's that honestly I can justify it because that's just so freaking funny that
you can't get over the way the job is as a cat.
So I can accept your score just for that reason alone.
Yeah.
But we were pretty much in agreement.
With the music.
Okay.
I think you gave it a perfect 10.
I ended up giving it a nine.
And so it averaged out to nine and a half but we round down.
So it's sitting at the music sitting at a nine and the music was phenomenal.
To me jazz is one of the most soothing if not the most soothing types of music.
Like if I'm like feeling stressed or just going through a lot in life I can turn on
some jazz and just all of my troubles just flow away and it's it's amazing.
Just I don't know what else to say about chess.
It's just such a beautiful category of music.
And the way it's done in this film is is remarkable.
Yeah.
I think the reason I didn't give it a perfect 10 is because the overall I think the overall
score so like the movies score wasn't super memorable.
And there was a couple times there was a few times where I feel like they could have used
some really solid music and they didn't like when they're like when they when they were
sailing with what's his name Moonbreaker Moon.
I think it is I forgot something like that the frickin crazy hippie dude.
So he's yeah I think it's just it's I think that's just what brought it down for me.
I think that it should have had a really amazing score that's memorable.
But the rest of the music was just on point.
So yeah it's sitting at a nine going over to costumes.
Costumes got a seven.
I think the costumes I feel were above average but overall they weren't anything around.
Yeah exactly.
Yeah I mean yes Joe's like classic like black turtleneck looked great on him.
It worked for his character but it's nothing like eye popping.
Yeah it's and that's nothing against the movie.
Sometimes the costumes just aren't the main focus.
Yeah exactly and that is okay.
Yeah all right and then the last category that we gave or that we scored was our personal
grade.
I ended up giving it an 88.
I thought it was really well done but just comparing it to other movies that I've seen
it's not quite at the 90 range.
So I put it at an 88 because I'm an asshole.
Yeah Caleb is an asshole.
Yeah and then you do you remember what you ended up giving it?
I kept going between a 92 and a 94 but I cannot remember what I ended up with.
You ended up giving it a 94.
Oh okay.
So you weren't talking about that?
So yeah so like I said I kept like going between 92 and 94.
I was at 95 but then I'm like okay you know what it's a great Pixar movie.
There are some problems I have with it so I'm just gonna knock it down a little bit
but then I knocked it down a little more and I was like wait you know what no let's push
it up to a 94 and I think a 94 is very well deserved for this film.
I can understand where Caleb's coming from.
It has its problems but overall I feel this is Pixar at its prime.
It's a return to form for Pixar.
Pete Docter once again directs an amazing movie for this company and as I did with after
Monsters Inc, after Up, after Inside Out and now after Soul I look forward to what his
next project is.
Absolutely.
He did an amazing job and honestly just with and this is going to be the first time that
we're going to do this and this is going to be something that we can do and discuss a
little bit more but I'm actually going to change my personal grade.
Shit.
Why are you changing it?
So I'm bumping it up to a 91.
So I think this movie was so so good.
There's a lot to think about just philosophically just on it's a deep movie.
It really is.
So we were originally at a 91 and now we are at a 92 and a half for our personal grade.
That's not bad at all.
Yeah not bad at all.
So with that the final score for Soul is I can't really do a drum roll right now people
I'm really sorry that's all I got.
So it is sitting at an A minus.
Hell yeah.
So it is sitting at a 90.25%.
Oh shit so it barely made it in 90s.
Yeah it's I mean I think what ended up killing it was the writing and the costumes.
I think if those would have been just a little bit higher but it makes sense that the costumes
weren't like fantastic.
Yeah exactly.
And then the writing it's just minor gripes here and there and it just brought it down
enough but it didn't kill the movie at all.
A minus is still an amazing score.
That is fantastic.
A well deserved A minus I feel.
So comparing this to other movies that we've scored at an A minus everything I'm about
to list is an A minus movie.
So it is slightly lower than Tusk.
It is a little bit below Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Okay fair.
By one point.
Oh shit.
It's two points below Never Be Done.
Oh I had to think for a minute what that was but okay I remember that.
Sorry.
It's also two points below Pulp Fiction.
Fair enough.
And Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse.
Fair enough as well.
Yeah it's also two points below Avengers Infinity War.
Yeah I can't argue with that.
It's like damn near right in line with Coco.
Oh okay.
I can agree with that.
Yeah Coco is actually.2% higher.
That is absolutely understandable because I feel Coco is a little bit of a better movie.
Yeah it's.4% lower than Little Women.
Okay I need to watch that movie again.
Yeah it's like it's.1% lower than 1917.
Oh shit damn.
That is super close.
Two points lower than A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood.
Two points below Joker.
Three points below Room.
And it is perfectly in line.
Like exact same score as Us.
Oh shit.
Which I'm not going to disagree with.
Yeah I'm not either.
If you guys want to check out the other movies I could go on but we'd be here all freaking
day and night.
If you guys want to check out our ratings be sure to go check it out.
There should be a link to it on our website tinyurl.com forward slash DL Rose.
Links will be in the description.
But that does conclude this week's breakdown and I think that ended up going pretty well
for the new system.
I did too.
Yeah I like this new system a lot.
Yeah I think the one thing that we should change is the personal grade.
So obviously we have I say we have the personal grade.
We have the personal grade in mind.
Maybe just keep that between ourselves.
And then that way we can present it at the end.
So that way I don't know the final score and you don't know the final score either.
Okay I like this idea.
So hopefully you guys enjoyed this new format.
You'll see it a little better in action next week.
So next week we will be breaking down Wonder Woman 1984.
Oh boy very interested to see how this movie is considering that critics were like raving
about it and it was like at like in the high 80s on Rotten Tomatoes but once the review
embargo lifted for just like a regular moviegoer is it like dropped to what like a 60 something.
So yeah it's it's low.
Yeah so but we don't give two shits about other critics.
This is the only breakdown that matters.
Damn way to make us sound like arrogant assholes.
We are arrogant assholes.
Okay fair enough.
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Deuces.
So long.
Happy new year.