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What up bros this is the All Bros Podcast on Caleb and I'm Jonathan and we are a couple

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of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but also enjoy a lot of

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bit of the nerd life.

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This week on the podcast we have a special guest with us.

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Would you like to introduce yourself?

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Yes I am said special guest my name is Brucker.

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Thank you guys so much for having me on.

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I come from a podcast called Film on the Rocks and I am also starting a new horror movie

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podcast called Autopsy the Horror Movie.

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But I'm really excited to be here guys.

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It's really fun to collaborate with you two again.

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Yeah this is definitely going to be a regular thing with how fun our breakdowns end up being.

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So for those of you that don't already know we are kind of mixing some things up a little

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We have a new system in place that we are going to be doing from now on and I'll only

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bring it up a few times before we actually stop.

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But we have new segments.

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We are still discussing the same stuff just changing how we do it a little bit.

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So the first segment that we are going to be doing is Funko Focus.

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I'm going to list off all of the new figures that have been announced or are getting released

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soon and then we'll just talk about some of the ones that we are interested in which only

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I have one that I'm interested in.

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We have no 4k to spotlight this week and through the wall Rose has a new still that he is going

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to talk to us about.

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I don't know what I was going to say.

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And then like we said in the previous episodes or episode our main event has evolved into

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the Albrose headliner and our headliner for this week is our breakdown of Wonder Woman

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So with that let's get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Hey guys what's up?

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This is Donnie and I host the Adulting with Donnie podcast and this is not the show to

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listen to if you're trying to be a better adult.

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I started this podcast as a way to offload some thoughts that I have throughout the week.

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My topics vary widely every week.

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Movies I've seen, guns and gun control, sex, people that are stupid, why I don't care about

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celebrity opinions, TV shows, snowmobiling, the list goes on and on.

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I'm always taking topic suggestions from fans of the show too.

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So join me each week on Adulting with Donnie as I pour some bourbon and allow you to see

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the inner workings of the mind of a madman.

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Live free and rant hard.

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Alrighty first up with Funko Focus.

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We have a decent amount of new lines.

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So the new lines that we have are for Spider-Man Miles Morales, the PS5 game.

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You still could say PS4.

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It is on PS4 too.

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True.

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But yeah we got Spider-Man Miles Morales, we got a new Planters Peanut, Slush Puppy

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and we got a figure for Rhea and the Last Dragon.

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So that's what that is.

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Interesting.

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And then the, my Funko Focus pick is actually the Marvel Collector Corps January box.

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And so for those of you that don't know what the Collector Corps box is, it's a subscription

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thing that Amazon does for Marvel and pop figures.

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That's cool.

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Yeah, so they do, so typically like what they've had is two pop figures, a shirt or an article

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of clothing, typically a shirt, a pin and a sticker or a decal.

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So they just announced that with this box, which the theme is Lucha Libre, which I think

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we've talked about before on here.

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So they announced that this box is going to have three figures in it instead of the regular

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two.

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And so they haven't announced what's going to be in the box, but some people have a theory

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that one of the Lucha Libre figures is going to be Thanos.

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That would be super dope.

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That would be so cool.

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But yeah, I don't know the other, I'm trying to think of like other figures or other characters

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that they could do for Lucha Libre.

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So far they've only done Hulk, Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Deadpool, Venom and

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Captain Marvel.

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Hear me out, Black Widow and Hawkeye.

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More so mean Hawkeye of course, but you know.

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I just don't know who else that they would do because Thanos would be a freaking bitch

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The only two Avengers that are big names that they're missing is Thor and Cap.

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Wow, no love for Hawkeye and Black Widow.

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I get it.

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Oh shit, that was a slam.

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Yeah, there's six original Avengers here buddy.

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There's not just four.

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Only four that matter.

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You're about to catch these hands.

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I was just giving you a hard time.

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My theory is I love the idea of Thanos being one and Cap and Thor.

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That's what I'd hope they do.

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I would love to see that personally.

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I think that would just be awesome.

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I mean that would be.

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So unless any of you have anything else to add, we can move on to Through the Wall where

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Rose, you can take it from here.

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Alright, so this happened a couple days ago, but Blumhouse released an official pic.

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I don't know what they call it.

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Official image, that's the word.

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Still, that's even better.

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Thank you, Brooker.

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An official still from Halloween Kills and it's Michael Myers at the top of a staircase

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looking down and you can tell his overalls are burnt.

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His overalls, wow, is it a boiler suit or is it a jumpsuit?

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I think it's a jumpsuit.

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Yeah, it's more of a jumpsuit.

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You can see some burns on his jumpsuit.

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You can definitely see the burns on the mask and he's just standing there with his knife

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and looking badass and it's a great image.

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Someone actually pointed out in this image that in the background, like the wall by the

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stairs, you can see flower print and someone pointed out that in the trailer that we got

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on Halloween this past year in 2020, that scene with Allison screaming and looking up,

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it's the exact same print.

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So they feel that this is the exact same scene that Allison runs into Michael.

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He turns around the corner and there he is and of course she screams her head off and

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I'm sure she takes off running.

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Be sure to look out for this image on all of our social media because it's a beautiful

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image and you guys will be amazed by it and I really don't know what else to say about

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It looks super dope and my head is kind of just spinning with ideas of where this can

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Maybe we should go back and rewatch both the 78 original movie and the 2018 movie and see

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if the wallpaper matches any of the houses that we see in those movies.

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Because I'm starting to think maybe she goes back to her friend that was in the 2018 movie.

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She goes back to the house of the babysitter that Michael murdered and maybe she goes back

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there and could be that house maybe.

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Yeah, Vicky's house.

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Yes, that would be because it's the same.

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original sequel was.

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Yeah, yeah, I think that's how it is.

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So that would be really interesting to see.

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All I know is I just need this damn movie right now.

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Right.

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I mean, at least we're in the same year that it's coming out now.

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That's true, but it's like not until the tail end of the year.

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Yeah, it's man, all we can do now is just kind of just rewatch those Halloween movies

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until we get that.

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So that's my homework is to find that wallpaper, see which movie it's in.

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That's some good homework.

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Let me know if you find anything, Brooker.

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I love you.

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Like, yeah, it's a good idea.

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You do that for me.

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Do all the work for me.

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Thanks, man.

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Appreciate it.

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Hey, you can cover it on your top scene.

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The way that we watch movies, dude, anytime I've gone back and be like, oh, I'm going

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to find these little Easter eggs or whatever, I always forget what I'm looking for in the

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middle of the movie.

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Oh, I always like pick up like eight different things.

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Oh, my God, the signs are changing like the there's a shift in the wind as you know, you're

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looking at it or whatever.

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Yeah, super cool.

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Cool image.

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Michael is looking friggin badass.

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I was afraid that they were going to make the mask look really lame with it being melted.

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But with some close up images, he looks really good.

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He looks scary as hell now.

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Like, yeah, no joke.

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And that's all we got for through the wall.

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So I believe we can move on to our headliner for this evening.

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Okay, does that set a new record because that was only 11 minutes.

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Yeah, that's a new record.

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Definitely achieved what we were going for.

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Kind of this segment down and talk about only what we wanted to see.

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Jonathan was taking us through thin walls.

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So that's a that's my joke, ladies and gentlemen.

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I've been working on that all day.

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Bravo.

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That was amazing.

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It was beautiful.

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Can't even hear the golf club.

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But I mean, speaking of which, just because new format like, Brucker, what do you think

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of it?

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I like it.

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Like, yeah, even though it cuts the conversation down a bit.

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Hey, I mean, you know, a good conversation is a good conversation just because you I

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don't know, let's say you're able to talk for four hours.

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But you know, is how much of it is it fluff and how much of it is, you know, good content?

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So, you know, if if you're able to streamline it or whatever, then you're probably producing

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better content, I think.

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So without further ado, let's get into our headliner.

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Time for the main event.

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It's main event time.

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Let's play a game.

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Alrighty, this week's headliner of the evening is our breakdown of Wonder Woman 1984.

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We posted a question of the week.

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I don't think anyone answered it, though.

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What was the question?

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So the question was, you're being granted a wish, but there is a cost.

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What is the cost of your dream?

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I feel like that, yeah, like what what could someone take away?

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Interesting that that actually I don't want to spoil anything.

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I almost did.

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I almost got there.

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Yeah, I'm just double checking our our Twitter just because occasionally I'll miss stuff

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with with that.

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But I'm fairly certain we didn't get anything.

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Well, OK, well, let's kind of let's let's kick around the ball here a little bit.

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So I feel like a very popular item, like ticket item this past holiday season was a PS5.

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What do you think?

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Like some people would have had to trade for a PS5 if they used the dream stone to get

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I feel like, you know, you're asking for material things.

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You probably have to give up either other material things or maybe personal things.

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I don't know.

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Like family member Amelia or maybe Ian.

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Say that again.

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Can I give up my PS4?

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Does that count?

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I give up my old wish for my new wish.

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Yeah, I mean, I feel it still works.

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Yeah, that's tough.

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It's just like if it like you got to think like if the whatever the dream is or whatever

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the wish is, does it like does the cost of it be equal or greater than because if you

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were to wish for something stupid like spoiler alert, someone wishes for coffee.

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And it's like their two bucks.

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The punishment is that the coffee was hot.

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Or someone put in like a wrong creamer in it or something.

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Yeah, like that seems like a fair trade.

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So like a PS5, how much did those cost?

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Like $500?

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I don't I don't even know how much they cost.

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I think.

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Okay.

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So like what's like a $600 equivalent that you have to like that you take a hit on?

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Like does does your car get into a car accident or like your car into car accident?

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Wow, that was a dumbass sentence.

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Do you get into like a fender bender or?

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I'm trying to for $600.

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They probably could just take my car and then it would just be perfect.

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That's about what my car is worth.

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Let's face it.

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Oh, that's it.

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Oh, you want to you want to PS5?

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People hear COVID stimulus relief is only going to be $600.

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That's it.

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I mean, it works.

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It works.

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True.

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But yeah, I think that'd be hilarious.

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Like you wish for a PS5.

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It gets dropped at your door by Amazon Prime and then on the way out, the driver like rear

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ends you.

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Oh, that's it.

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That's it.

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There we go.

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Oh, yeah.

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So yeah, my wife just yelled at me from the other room that maybe I should have worded

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this differently.

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Brielle, you're not wrong.

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What are you willing to pay?

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Hey, what are you paying?

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That's fair.

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Or like maybe prompted with like you could win the lottery, but what would what would

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you give up to win the lottery sort of thing?

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Yeah, sort of along those lines.

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Yeah, it kind of turns into like a would you rather sort of thing.

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Yeah.

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Well, I guess I'll just be asking her for help on our future question of the week.

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So anyway, getting into the actual breakdown.

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If you are new to our breakdown system, we've split movies into eight different categories

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that we individually grade to come to a final all bros and film on the rock slash autopsy

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of a movie or film.

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Yeah, two different movie podcasts.

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One uses film, one uses movie.

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Give you a headache.

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I love it.

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Hey, it works.

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I like it.

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Yeah.

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But coming to that final grade and yeah, so it comes to a letter grade and just because

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we can.

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So the way that we're doing it now is we rate everything before the movie.

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So we know all the scores.

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Now it's our job to justify those scores to everyone.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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So if you have not seen Wonder Woman 1984.

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Spoiler alerts ahead.

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We're going to ruin the entire movie for you.

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So go sign up for HBO Max now.

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It's pretty sweet.

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I mean, I wouldn't know I'm packing off Caleb's.

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It's hell of worth it.

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It's insane.

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There's so much shit on there.

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There is.

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Holy shit.

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Dude, like I added like 12 or 14 movies to the list and I haven't even like and I was

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just scrolling through alphabetically and it's overwhelming.

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Honestly, it's there's so much stuff.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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No joke.

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Like, oh, it's insane because I'm like, oh, I want to watch this.

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Oh, I want to watch this.

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And like I added Citizen Kane and a bunch of other movies.

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Dude, Citizen Kane's on there.

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They got to compete with Netflix with the make coming out.

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Sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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Ever since I discovered the middle was on HBO Max, that's like been the only thing that

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I've watched because I have to finish.

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The only reason why my girlfriend and I got HBO Max in the first place was to watch the

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1969, 1970 original Scooby Doo Where Are You?

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Great cartoon show and we just we've gone through it a couple of times.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Absolutely love it.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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All right.

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So did I say this, the categories?

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Oh, no, I haven't yet.

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Wait, I don't think so.

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Did I say the categories?

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We think you have.

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So anyway, the eight categories that we grade are story writing, acting, character development,

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effects, and

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music, costumes.

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And then at the end, we give it our own personal grade.

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So starting off with story, Rose is going to read a synopsis for the entire film.

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So you've been warned.

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All right.

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In her youth, Diana Prince participates in an island spanning athletic race on Themyscira

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against older Amazons.

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After falling from her horse, Diana takes a shortcut to catch up.

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However, oh my gosh, I forgot her name.

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Is it Anteope?

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So you remember how to pronounce her name?

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It's Anteope?

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I think it's Anteope or something like that.

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Anteope.

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Okay.

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Anteope.

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So before this, explaining anything worthwhile must be obtained honestly.

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In 1984, Diana works at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, DC while performing heroic

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deeds.

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She introduces herself to Barbara Ann Minerva, a new geologist and cryptozoologist with the

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museum, and they become friends.

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Barbara is kind and socially awkward, which makes most people look past her and makes

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her envious of Diana.

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She is asked by the FBI to identify stolen antiques from a robbery Diana foiled.

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Barbara and Diana notice one artifact later revealed to be the Dream Stone contains an

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inscription claiming that anyone holding it will have one wish granted.

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Diana unknowingly uses the stone to wish her deceased lover, Steve Trevor, back to life.

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After being saved by Diana from an attempted sexual assault, Barbara wishes upon the stone

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to become like Diana, attaining Diana's superpowers.

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Failing businessman Maxwell, Max Lord Lorenzano, visits the Smithsonian under the pretext of

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being a wealthy donor.

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He arranged for the Dream Stone to be delivered to him in hopes of using its power to save

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his oil company.

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Diana discovers a connection between Max and the stone and attends a gala at the Smithsonian

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to investigate.

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There she is reunited with Steve, whose soul inhabits another man's body that only Diana

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sees as Steve.

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Attending the gala himself, Max seduces Barbara to gain access to her office and steal the

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Dream Stone.

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He later uses the stone to become the Stone and gains its wish-granting powers along with

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the ability to take whatever he desires from others to fulfill the cost of the wishes.

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Max becomes a powerful figure who leaves chaos and destruction in his wake as his powers

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trigger worldwide instability.

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With Barbara's help, Diana and Steve discover that the Dream Stone was created by Dolos,

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the god of lies, treachery, deception, and mischief.

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The stone grants a user their wish but exacts a toll, and the only way to reverse the exchange

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is by renouncing the wish or destroying the stone.

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Steve realizes his existence comes at the cost of Diana's powers, while Barbara's newfound

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life has taken her humanity.

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Neither woman is willing to renounce her wish.

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Max's powers take a toll on him as his body slowly deteriorates.

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He learns from the President of the United States of a satellite system that broadcasts

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communication signals globally.

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Max plans to use it to grant wishes to the entire world to rid himself of his power and

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regain his health.

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Diana and Steve confront him at the White House, only for Barbara to join forces with

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Max.

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She defeats Diana, allowing Max's escape.

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Steve finally convinces Diana to renounce her wish and let him go, restoring her strength

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and discovering an ability to fly.

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Diana returns home and dons the armor of warrior Asteria.

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She then heads to the satellite headquarters and again battles Barbara, who has mutated

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into a cheetah-like creature after wishing to become an apex predator.

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After defeating Barbara, Diana confronts Max and uses her lasso of truth to communicate

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with the world through him, convincing everyone to renounce their wishes.

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She also shows Max visions, first of his own unhappy childhood, then of his young son,

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Alastair, wandering the streets crying for his father amid the chaos.

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Max renounces his wish and reunites with Alastair, promising to be a better father.

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Sometime later, Diana meets the man whose body Steve possessed.

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Meanwhile, Asteria is revealed to be secretly living among humans.

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Alright, so with our collective scores, the final actual score that the story got was

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a 76.6.

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Okay, that's honestly higher than I thought it was going to be.

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So the one that bumped it up the most was you, Rose.

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I think I might have been a little too nice on this movie.

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There was a lot of potential with this story.

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It was just done wrong.

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There were just little fixes here and there that would have enhanced the story so much.

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I think the biggest problem is Barbara's character especially because by the time that we get

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to her transforming into Cheetah, it feels like it's too late.

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Like the movie has like 20 minutes left.

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I liked her as Cheetah.

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I thought it was a cool fight between her and Wonder Woman.

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It just felt like, okay, what's the point now?

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She wasn't even in half the movie.

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She was barely even in a quarter of it.

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Like the manifestation of her actually being a Cheetah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it was interesting.

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The story is, I mean, there's definitely a story there, but it's not, it just didn't

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feel like a Wonder Woman movie.

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I don't know if you guys agree with me on that, but just because I felt like she wasn't

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in it that much.

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This was way more about Barbara and Pedro Pascal's character.

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That's what it felt like to me.

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It was way more about them too than it was about Diana.

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I can agree with that actually, unfortunately.

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Yeah.

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It was kind of weird.

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She felt like a side character almost.

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Yeah.

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And like, I mean-

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No, sorry.

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But one thing, this movie isn't super action packed like the first one was.

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And I think that that was a good creative choice to make.

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It was definitely intentional.

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Yeah, because if you go back to like the Wonder Woman comics, the original ones, and even

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the show, she doesn't fight a lot.

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Like she talks her way out of, like she talks to the criminals.

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She tries to like basically get them to see the error of their ways and kind of fix themselves.

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Yeah.

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What she does in this movie.

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She's like Lady Justice almost.

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Like she's not there to attack anyone, but she's not there to like let people get away

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with shit either.

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And so I felt like that was kind of the role that she was taking.

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And there were some times where it worked really well and then other times where it

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didn't.

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Like, no, you need to be whooping someone's ass.

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Yeah.

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I'll give them this, the mall scene was freaking awesome.

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The way that she used the Lasso of Truth throughout that whole scene.

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Like that got me freaking hyped for the rest of the movie, but then unfortunately didn't

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exactly deliver.

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See the mall scene.

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Dude, I have thoughts on that freaking lasso.

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I'm fine with the lasso.

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The mall scene itself, I mean, I like the action that we got from Wonder Woman.

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Like I have nothing really to say about that.

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It was mostly the over the top acting that we were getting from these like F character

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bad guys.

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Like he like randomly, I don't want to say randomly, but he kind of just grabs his little

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girl as like hostage and it went from evading the scene in the crime to like holding a kid

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over a ledge in the mall like super fast.

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And it was, I don't know, it just didn't, it wasn't executed real well.

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Like I don't know.

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No, that just came out of nowhere.

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It wasn't.

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And I understand that Wonder Woman 1984, it's supposed to be a cheesy eighties comic brought

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to life and that's why this movie has a completely different tone from the first movie, which

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had a lot of weight and heaviness to it because it was a World War I.

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And you know, that one had kind of like, like I said, like a lot of like weight and heaviness

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to this.

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This one's a little bit more light and fluffy and we're kind of exploring other characters

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that aren't Wonder Woman.

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So that was like, so I think a lot of people are having kind of a hard time transitioning

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between the tones like that.

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But yeah, so like that mall scene was, I mean, I liked the Wonder Woman's actions in it,

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but it was a little too cheesy for my taste.

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Yeah, the cheese factor was definitely dialed up to like 11.

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Yeah.

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Real.

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Yeah, they should have like, when the dude grabbed that little girl and started like

497
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,520
hanging her over the ledge, I was on the team with like the other guys like, what the hell

498
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,520
are you doing?

499
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,400
We were on our way out.

500
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,440
Part of the plan.

501
00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,120
Yeah, like and then one of the dudes, he was just like strolling out.

502
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,400
Like the only reason that he started running was because the guy called him out and he's

503
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,560
just like, let's go, let's run.

504
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,280
And it's just like, no, like you told me like no one saw you.

505
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,280
Yeah.

506
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:17,880
Well, no, it's because he stumbled on his gun, flew on the floor and the lady saw it

507
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,880
and she freaked out.

508
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,760
The one on the phone?

509
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,800
So there were the three guys that went inside and started taking everything.

510
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,400
One guy stayed outside as kind of lookout, what got on the phone.

511
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,680
The three came out, tossed him a duffel bag, and then they just started kind of like strolling.

512
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,480
Yeah, but wasn't there also another guy that was outside with also the guy that was on

513
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,840
the phone and he's the one that accidentally drops his gun and it flings across the floor

514
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,960
and the lady sees it and freaks out.

515
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,520
And so the guy tells the guy that was on the phone, like, come on, let's go.

516
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:57,240
And yet, I mean, I feel bad for the guy with the, that was on the phone because like literally

517
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,280
he could have just, just kept on going.

518
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,640
No one suspected him at all.

519
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,600
I would have just been like, I would have just grabbed my duffel bag and been like,

520
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,120
oh my gosh, it's freaking nuts over there and left.

521
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,120
Yeah.

522
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
It's like, I don't know this fool.

523
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,680
It's like, I don't know who that, that character is.

524
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,680
Yeah.

525
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,680
Freaking psycho.

526
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,680
Yeah.

527
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:26,520
How did you guys feel about Diana's and Steve's relationship in this one?

528
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,720
Honestly, I liked it.

529
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,640
I was really happy that Steve was back because I feel like that we kind of need to be reminded

530
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,520
that she's a real person at times.

531
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,720
And Steve kind of brings that humanity out of her.

532
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,120
And I don't know, I just liked them two together.

533
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,800
I mean, they're, they're, they're two good looking people.

534
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,120
I mean, you know, just put them on the screen.

535
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,120
That's great.

536
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,000
You know, and, and honestly, and like I said, I liked their relationship.

537
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,760
And so it was really cool because it was like a reverse of the relationship from the first

538
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320
movie because in the first movie she was the fish out of water.

539
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800
And in this one, he is now the fish out of water.

540
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,800
He's educating him about this world of 1984, what things are and trash cans aren't art

541
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760
and you know, things like that.

542
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Even though I saw that joke so many times on the trailer, it's still got to get.

543
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,120
Holy shit.

544
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,120
Yeah.

545
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:22,760
One thing that like, I absolutely agree that they should have brought Steve Trevor back

546
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:28,080
just to like humanize Diana a little bit more.

547
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,560
But I think they went about it wrong.

548
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,320
And this is one of those like minor tweaks to the movie that I think would have improved

549
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,840
it a little bit.

550
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,480
And like, let me know if I'm like completely out there with this.

551
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:49,280
I think that the guy that kind of took over or that Steve took over the dude's body, I

552
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:54,720
think we should have seen him a majority of the movie.

553
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:56,760
It shouldn't have switched to Chris Pine.

554
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:03,840
I think it should have stayed the black haired dude for a good portion of it.

555
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:15,400
And then near the time, like, and then like when you get to the point where Diana is struggling

556
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:23,080
to renounce her wish, I think that would have been a good time for her to kind of be panicking

557
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,400
and like, like, no, no, I'm not doing this and have Steve grab her like face and kind

558
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,120
of like, then you see Chris Pine.

559
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:39,440
Like I think that would have been like a bit better of a moment.

560
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,220
Probably my big thing is this is a magical wish stone.

561
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:45,320
Why does he have to possess someone's body?

562
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Why can't he just be back?

563
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Yeah, I can agree with that because Steve Trevor was never like a huge, big, I don't

564
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,280
think he was a huge, big deal during World War I, was he?

565
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,280
No, he was some other dude that died in an airplane.

566
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,280
I mean, you know, I mean, nothing against that or anything, but you know, he was just

567
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,320
another fallen soldier, I think.

568
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,720
Yeah, so I doubt anyone's just going to go, oh, how did someone just come back from the

569
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:12,720
dead?

570
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:13,720
I think they've made him a love interest.

571
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:18,720
I think they've made Steve Trevor more of a love interest, but yeah, like, you could

572
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:19,920
have had anyone.

573
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:28,120
And I think also it would have made, like having it not be Chris Pine the entire movie,

574
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,520
I think that would have also made the ending make a little bit more sense because I didn't

575
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,160
even think that that was the guy that was possessed.

576
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Oh.

577
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,440
Like, I was just like, oh, like, that's nice, she's moving on.

578
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,080
And then I was like listening to someone else talk about the movie and they're like, oh

579
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,680
yeah, that's like the same guy that Steve possessed.

580
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920
I'm like, whoa, wait, was it?

581
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,920
Oh, you didn't remember?

582
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,400
Oh, I remembered that.

583
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,080
Yeah, I didn't remember his face.

584
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Like, you see him for like a couple seconds.

585
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,120
I get where you're coming from, Caleb, but I feel that I'm glad that it was Chris Pratt

586
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,680
for the most part.

587
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,680
Chris Pine.

588
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,640
Because Chris Pine, wow, I'm sorry.

589
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,920
Well, apparently I don't care about Chris Pine.

590
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:17,840
I don't know, I just feel like it had more of an emotional impact, especially when they

591
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,680
were having that emotional moment where Steve was telling her, you know, you need to let

592
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,280
me go and this scene even got me tearing up.

593
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,280
And so I feel if you didn't get to see Steve being Steve throughout the whole movie, throughout

594
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,760
the rest of the movie, you just saw him as that one guy, I feel it wouldn't have had

595
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,760
that much of an emotional impact.

596
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,680
That's why I'm saying like during that scene, it should have been a moment where they're

597
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:54,320
kind of off talking about it and you see the, let's say person A or just like, let's say,

598
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,280
I don't even know, let's say Joe, let's say Joe is the guy that Steve possessed, that

599
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,080
you see Joe for a majority of that conversation.

600
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,440
And then the second that it becomes like you need to renounce your wish, then it becomes

601
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,840
Chris Pine.

602
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:17,040
And then it's like, I don't know.

603
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,520
So then how would that be her wish then?

604
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:25,240
Because if she were to wish for him to come back, but we don't see him back, how would

605
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:28,080
we know that the wish was actually fulfilled?

606
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,480
Like what would it be that she's renouncing at that point?

607
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:38,720
Well you got to think she was looking at Joe or whatever his name is.

608
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:45,160
That's what she was seeing, but she was choosing to see with her heart, but soul of Chris Pine.

609
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,760
See I think that's kind of why they kept it with Chris Pine.

610
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,360
Yeah, but I think that's why they kept it as Chris Pine because you're supposed to see

611
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,320
this kind of maybe through Diana's eyes that when she finally realizes that, oh my gosh,

612
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,800
this is Steve, we're supposed to believe all the time that this is Steve, it's not just

613
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,120
some random ass guy.

614
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,520
We're supposed to see him in his actual image.

615
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:11,400
I would have liked to see it both ways.

616
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,640
Hey, Patty Jenkins, can we get a Wonder Woman 84.2?

617
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,720
I would love to see her talk about that.

618
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:21,160
So yeah, we did a test.

619
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,520
We did like a test audience without Chris Pine and nobody got it.

620
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,520
So we put him back in.

621
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Caleb would have gotten it apparently.

622
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:34,360
Caleb was like the one person that's like, I get this people, this is gold.

623
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,480
I don't know.

624
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:48,040
I would have even liked, just for stupid audience members that wouldn't get it, I think if they

625
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:55,040
were to say, okay, at the party when she's just like no and then she realizes that it

626
00:39:55,040 --> 00:40:01,320
is Steve, then you see it like kind of what they were doing, the circling around the two,

627
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:07,720
but do one circle where it is Chris Pine and then go back to the other dude.

628
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:10,000
Just so everyone's like, oh, it's Steve and blah blah blah.

629
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
And then I don't know.

630
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000
I'm sorry, man.

631
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000
I think you're on Joe Island.

632
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,640
I don't know if, I don't know that would have worked.

633
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:20,880
I think it would have.

634
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,880
I think it would have worked.

635
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,840
And besides, Chris Pine wanted the paycheck.

636
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,880
So do what?

637
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,880
Wait, what?

638
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,680
Oh, I said we're all out to have an opinion.

639
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,360
We're all out, allowed to have ideas.

640
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,840
And all I said was Chris Pine wanted the paycheck.

641
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,480
So Patty Jenkins had to write it that way.

642
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,240
I bet you he was held to a contract.

643
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:44,160
I bet like he signed off for two or three movies and this is just how they had to do

644
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,160
it.

645
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Yeah.

646
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,760
Didn't they already greenlight the third one?

647
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,760
Yep.

648
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,760
Yeah.

649
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,920
And then she says she had two more stories that she wanted to do.

650
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Patty?

651
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,920
Shut up.

652
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,920
All right.

653
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,920
All right.

654
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,040
I think I'm not 100% certain on that.

655
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,040
As long as it doesn't interfere with Patty Jenkins.

656
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,120
I'm cool.

657
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:14,880
I think that they would have, I don't know, kind of knocking Chris Pine out of the way

658
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,080
a little bit.

659
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:22,040
Would have, I mean, for me, would have made me realize that that was the guy that she

660
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,440
saw the end a little bit quicker.

661
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Okay, that's fair.

662
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,160
And like understand that.

663
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:38,080
But also, if, I don't know, I think like the bringing Steve back to life thing shouldn't

664
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,360
be a habit.

665
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,520
I just want to point out with that scene at the end where she meets who the body that

666
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,360
Stephen inhabited, I'm so glad actually that they did not like get together and hook up

667
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,880
because that would have just been like, oh, my lover was in this body.

668
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,320
Now I love this guy.

669
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,600
Happy ending.

670
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,360
I'm glad that they just have like a little moment in the snow and that's it.

671
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,240
And it just moves on.

672
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,800
So I think that was a really smart call.

673
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,520
Yeah, it was way less annoying.

674
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,520
Yeah, exactly.

675
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,800
That's a good way to put it.

676
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:20,040
But yeah, I think some other things that they could have improved was having us realize

677
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:27,760
that Diana's powers were going away a little bit more directly than how they were doing

678
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:34,440
it because when she got shot like by that, like the tank, I just thought, oh, she she

679
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,800
didn't block it.

680
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,120
So I just assumed like, oh, she's not bulletproof.

681
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Yeah, I guess they could have been a little more clear or clear about that.

682
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,200
I feel I didn't like truly realize that she had lost her powers until probably.

683
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,840
I don't know.

684
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,600
It's like that scene on the road where they're trying to get Maxwell and maybe like when

685
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,720
she she's like literally hiding under one of the the trucks.

686
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,840
Yeah, which is super late.

687
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,560
Yeah, just a little bit.

688
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Another thing that I feel like they could have fixed was with Barbara.

689
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Like I think Barbara was like she seemed like she had a good character art going until she

690
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,600
was like losing her humanity and all that stuff.

691
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,760
And then she just kind of became a like a one off villain.

692
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,840
Yeah, that's like the whole like, oh, I want to become an apex predator.

693
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,520
I don't know why that just like came out of nowhere for me.

694
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,520
Exactly.

695
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,120
You kicked Wonder Woman's ass.

696
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,040
Yeah, I think you're good with what you're at right now.

697
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,760
Let's stop it here, honey.

698
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,880
And honestly, like, like up until the apex predator thing, I was actually really digging

699
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,840
this character because we got we got like really good development out of her because

700
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,080
that's something I would give a lot of props for this movie is that we fully understand

701
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,200
the motivations for our villains in this movie.

702
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,680
Like we totally get Barbara's ambitions and how she fell to the dark side.

703
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,920
I'll use some Star Wars lingo here.

704
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:15,200
And we kind of also get a little bit of insight about Pedro Pascal's character.

705
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,840
And I mean, we kind of see that, you know, he is he is a divorcee and he's wanting to

706
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,680
be a good example for his son.

707
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,440
And you know, he's he's having a failing business and he's trying to be this TV icon at the

708
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,520
same time, too.

709
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,800
So or spokesperson.

710
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,040
So he he's putting a lot of pressure on himself to do well.

711
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,240
At the end, we kind of realize his upbringing and everything.

712
00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:44,440
But I at least appreciated that, like, even though like Wonder Woman wasn't in this movie

713
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,320
that much, the time that we didn't get with her, we got with the villains.

714
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,800
So we fully understood their story.

715
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,960
So I will give the movie some points for that.

716
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,360
But at the same time, you know, this was a Wonder Woman movie.

717
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,520
I want to see her do Wonder Woman things, you know.

718
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,080
Yeah, exactly.

719
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,080
Yeah.

720
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:07,920
Which, honestly, I think they just did maybe focus on the villain a bit too much.

721
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:17,760
I think we got enough that we got to understand how Wonder Woman was able to appeal to his

722
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,440
good nature.

723
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,320
Or his good like kind of reconnect him to his intentions.

724
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,480
So like we were able to understand that, but I think they just did a bit too much.

725
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,080
And like you said, we want to see Wonder Woman do Wonder Woman shit.

726
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,600
And like it could have even been a thing where like we just saw like they could have interwoven

727
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:39,600
them more.

728
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,040
Like we saw Barbara as she's kind of descending down the wrong path.

729
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,280
She's kind of doing this while also having more interactions with Diana and Diana can

730
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,480
like notice a change in tune and attitude with her, which she kind of does later in

731
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,480
the movie.

732
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,160
But maybe a little bit earlier on, so way Diana could like be like, hey, yo, like, what

733
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,040
are you doing kind of thing, you know?

734
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Or I saw you beat up that homeless dude.

735
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:12,880
I think that would have been a really good way to show Diana's loss of power, where if

736
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600
her and Barbara were interacting more.

737
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:21,480
And then maybe like when she goes and attacks the drunk dude, maybe Diana tries to stop

738
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,640
her but is like hurt in the process.

739
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,640
Yeah, that's a good idea.

740
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,520
And then you're just like, then she's like, oh wait, what the shit?

741
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,640
Yeah, it kind of like flips the script like that.

742
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,960
Yeah, yeah, I think that would be really good actually.

743
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Yeah, that would.

744
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:49,280
And then, I mean, do you guys think that she struggled with the renouncing her wish for,

745
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:54,280
because I don't think that she struggled with that decision for too long.

746
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,000
Which she already talking about, talking about Diana.

747
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:05,120
Diana, yeah, I think that Diana kind of wants the the from the point where she realizes

748
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,320
that that's kind of what she has to do to the point where she actually does it, it doesn't

749
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,560
feel like a super long time.

750
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,360
I definitely felt a conflict, I would say, because for like, at least, I mean, you're

751
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,600
right, it was brief, but there was like a brief period in the movie where she kind of

752
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,800
finds out that's what she has to do.

753
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,400
But instead of just renouncing it, they tried to keep stopping Cheetah, I think.

754
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:35,840
And anyways, yeah, they do try to stop her and stop Pedro Pascal before she decides like,

755
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,720
okay, it was more like when she did renounce it, it was more of like a last ditch effort

756
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,640
to be like, I'm in a corner, I just have to do this sort of thing.

757
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:50,280
And it was because we saw how she did try to stop them some but it was kind of a brief

758
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,080
part of this movie, which this movie is two and a half hours.

759
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,080
It's amazing.

760
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,520
So anything in this is brief.

761
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Yeah, you got me there.

762
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,080
But yeah, that was one thing and that I had a big issue with.

763
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:16,880
I just felt like that from the moment that she realized that was that's what she was

764
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:23,040
doing and the cost of her wish and all that kind of came together, I think that she renounced

765
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,360
her wish pretty quickly.

766
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,040
I think that she should have struggled with that a bit more.

767
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:41,000
But yeah, and then trying to think of any other like story issues that I had.

768
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,680
We already talked about Cheetah and her wanting to become an apex predator after whooping

769
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,360
Wonder Woman's ass.

770
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,720
I have an issue.

771
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:59,360
The whole opening sequence with a little girl, Diana, on the Mascara, I felt like that this

772
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,880
whole sequence, I feel like never had a payoff in this movie.

773
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Because to me, like the whole thing was that like her lesson is that she shouldn't cheat

774
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,880
and cut corners.

775
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,920
But I feel like that this, I don't know, that was like the least message I got that she

776
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,120
was supposed to learn from this.

777
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,000
That was supposed to be her takeaway to like not cut corners and not cheat.

778
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,060
But that's not like her struggle as an adult in this movie.

779
00:49:25,060 --> 00:49:28,300
It's more just like accepting that she can't have things that she wants.

780
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,920
I guess she wants to win, but like it didn't translate well to me.

781
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,920
I don't know.

782
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,920
What did y'all got?

783
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,080
How did y'all feel about this opening sequence?

784
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,080
I can definitely agree with you.

785
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,120
It really did not have a payoff.

786
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,680
But I really actually enjoyed this opening sequence.

787
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,840
I mean, I enjoy it.

788
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,840
It was great.

789
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,520
I mean, like the sequence itself is fine.

790
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Like in a vacuum, it was very entertaining.

791
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,000
I just didn't see it felt so disjointed from the rest of the movie, though.

792
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,520
I can absolutely agree with you there, actually.

793
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,560
And I want to say that Patty Jenkins actually had to fight Warner Brothers to make that

794
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:05,560
the opening.

795
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Oh, really?

796
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,040
Because they didn't want to, actually.

797
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Huh.

798
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,120
So maybe there's a reason why.

799
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,760
Show this to Warner Brothers, Patty.

800
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:24,160
Okay, I know that this is like a bit of a stretch and like you definitely have to reach

801
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,280
pretty far to kind of get what I'm getting at.

802
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:35,040
The whole conversation, like that sequence, I think could have been a little bit shorter.

803
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,480
Like the opening sequence could have been a little bit shorter.

804
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,680
And I think that instead of her like winning the entire time and then getting knocked off

805
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:53,040
her horse, I think it would have been better had she fallen behind and then seen a shortcut.

806
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,720
Just so it's like more blatant cheating.

807
00:50:57,720 --> 00:51:05,400
Because when she was going through, and like Antiobe pulls her off the horse or no, like

808
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:10,000
pulls her to the ground and like freaking body slams her.

809
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,760
Yeah, like damn shit.

810
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Gave her the people's elbow.

811
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:23,480
Yeah, I think with that, I didn't see how, I thought it was more like a race.

812
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,960
You just have to get to the finish line.

813
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:31,280
I didn't quite see how it was like a sequence.

814
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:37,200
So I think had it been more like, oh, this is straight up cheating.

815
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Then like freaking body slam.

816
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,840
I think that would have made a little bit more sense to me.

817
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:57,160
I think the overall thing was nothing worth getting is worth like getting through lies.

818
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,640
And that was kind of the whole purpose of like the dream stone.

819
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,760
The dream stone, it's not real.

820
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,760
It's lies.

821
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,480
It's deception.

822
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,040
And yes, this is what she has.

823
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,040
She has the love of her life back.

824
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:17,400
But it's like, does she really though?

825
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,400
It's not real.

826
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:19,400
It's deception.

827
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,400
I like that.

828
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,400
Yeah.

829
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,400
Okay.

830
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,400
Yeah, I do too.

831
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,400
Okay.

832
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Yeah.

833
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:32,400
And then when it gets to her like renouncing her wish, that's her accepting truth, accepting

834
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,400
everything that's truth.

835
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:42,800
And then that's what makes a great hero and makes her ready to wear what's her face's armor.

836
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,800
Okay.

837
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,200
Yeah, I like that.

838
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,600
I just don't know what a race has to do with truth.

839
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,480
Like they could have probably used a different like parable of Diana in this.

840
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Like I don't know, like she got caught cheating or stealing as a young kid or whatever.

841
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,800
And like she went through that whole lesson that would have been a little bit more relatable

842
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,320
to a young audience, I think.

843
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,840
Instead of horse racing your ants.

844
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,440
But I don't know.

845
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,440
Yeah I absolutely agree.

846
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,480
It could have been done better.

847
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:20,000
So it's not like you have to take a little bit of a stroll to get to the hidden meaning.

848
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,120
But I mean, I appreciated it.

849
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,160
It's just like, it could have been done better.

850
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,080
Like that's just my issue with the movie in general.

851
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,880
It just could have been done a little bit better.

852
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:30,880
Yeah, definitely.

853
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:31,880
Agreed.

854
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:42,760
So yeah, I mean that being said, it's a story full of potential.

855
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,880
And I think a 76 definitely represents that.

856
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,880
Yeah, kind of like, you know, hey, you got like a high C, just need a little bit.

857
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Yeah.

858
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,880
If you didn't create it in the weekend, maybe you would have done better.

859
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,880
You know, yeah.

860
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:56,880
Yeah, exactly.

861
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:04,240
Because didn't they complete this movie like back in like 2019 or 2018?

862
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:07,520
Dude, who freaking knows?

863
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,840
So like Patty Jenkins should have used the extra time to, I don't know, maybe add a couple

864
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,040
of extra things?

865
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,720
Yeah.

866
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,960
So next up we got writing.

867
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,040
So writing scored a 71.6.

868
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,040
I agree with that.

869
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,440
That's a bit lower than the story.

870
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,440
And I think the reason that is is because of a lot of the cheesy lines.

871
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:36,880
Yeah.

872
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:43,280
I mean, I guess 84.

873
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,400
And kind of like the logic too, just on some stuff.

874
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:53,040
I feel like, I don't know, like they could have tweaked, I guess that kind of ties into

875
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,640
the story a little bit, but like still with the writing, they could have, I don't know,

876
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,560
made things a little bit more conducive in some parts and just make a little bit more

877
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,560
sense.

878
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:02,560
I don't know.

879
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:03,560
Yeah.

880
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,560
How did you guys?

881
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Oh, sorry, Kale.

882
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,640
No, you're good.

883
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:16,360
One of the things that I had some struggle with was some of the cheesy stuff with Chris

884
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,800
Pine's character.

885
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,080
So with Steve Trevor.

886
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,200
I think there was a lot of cheesiness with him.

887
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,520
And I think there's just cheesiness in general when you're putting someone from the past

888
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:35,360
in the future or in their future.

889
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:44,440
But I actually gave a point higher than I was going to strictly because of the line

890
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:49,160
when Diana and Steve are stealing the jet.

891
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,760
And he's just like, once we get in the air, they'll never find us.

892
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,760
And she's just like, oh, I need to tell you about this thing called radar.

893
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,240
They'll be able to find us.

894
00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:02,320
He's just like, well, shit, Diane.

895
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,880
That was that was freaking hilarious.

896
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,200
That was easily the best joke of the movie.

897
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,200
At least for me.

898
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200
No, I absolutely agree with that.

899
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,660
That definitely was the best joke.

900
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:20,320
So here's an example of where I felt like the writing didn't make logical sense.

901
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,840
So we're just all planes just sitting outside museums, just good to go, just all fueled

902
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,720
up and ready to take off.

903
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:27,720
Apparently, exactly.

904
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:30,240
They didn't even need a key.

905
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,240
They didn't even need a key.

906
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,240
Like they just got it.

907
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:37,020
OK, well, hold up, hold up, hold up.

908
00:56:37,020 --> 00:56:40,720
So I worked with aircrafts while I was in the military.

909
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:41,960
Don't tell me this is possible.

910
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,960
Please don't.

911
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,880
No, no, no, no.

912
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,920
The whole of those planes being filled with fuel, that's absolute bullshit.

913
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,480
But you don't need a key to start up a jet.

914
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,840
OK, well, it's just one press of a button.

915
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,760
No, it's not like one press.

916
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,240
There's switches you have to flip.

917
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:04,040
But like I was going to say, it's like every new car now.

918
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,040
I could fly.

919
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,000
There's switches you have to flip.

920
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,000
You fucking moron.

921
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,840
It's like when you jump, the tone just gave.

922
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,840
I love it.

923
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,800
Yeah, like there's things that you have to turn on.

924
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,800
There's no key.

925
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,600
There's just no key.

926
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,480
You could seriously jump in any jet and start flipping switches and eventually you'll get

927
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,720
it turned on.

928
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,400
Is there even some sort of locking mechanism?

929
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,440
Would the cockpit just be open?

930
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,960
There's nothing for you to unlock it to get into the cockpit?

931
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,960
Yeah, that's a good question.

932
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,640
Because that's what I was kind of going with.

933
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:44,640
OK, so I'm not going to give away anything with the new jets, but the F-16, which has

934
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,240
been cycled out.

935
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,280
I'm convinced you're working for Area 51 now because he just says, not talking.

936
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,280
Yeah, I'm for real though.

937
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,280
Because he doesn't want to say it.

938
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,280
Just wait until you see this shit.

939
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:53,280
You fart and it opens.

940
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,120
No, I don't know what I'm allowed to say about the F-35, so I'm just going to assume I can

941
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,960
say nothing about it other than it's a really cool jet.

942
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,960
Caleb is going to think about the F-16.

943
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:10,520
The F-16 has been cycled out, so I'm pretty sure that's safe to talk about.

944
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:18,200
The F-16s, the way that they stored them, me being a brand new airman could walk out

945
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:27,000
on the flight line and take one if I knew how to fly it.

946
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,600
I could go out, I could open up the cockpit doors.

947
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,600
It's not hard to do.

948
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,920
It is not difficult at all.

949
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:44,560
But yes, absolutely, they should not be filled with fuel at a freaking museum.

950
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:53,400
Yeah, that's where I was like, what the fuck are we even doing?

951
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,760
At this point in the movie, I was starting to think, wait, did Diana, did her in the

952
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200
stone swap powers?

953
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,440
Is that why she's losing her powers?

954
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,080
Because now she has powers of the stone so she could just wish for things?

955
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,920
Like jet fuel?

956
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,920
That's what I thought this movie was going towards.

957
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,480
Yeah, and freaking turning shit invisible.

958
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,160
When did that become a thing?

959
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,160
Yeah.

960
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,520
They just had to work in the invisible jet.

961
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,920
They had to work it in somehow.

962
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,920
You know what?

963
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,160
I'm glad that they did that though.

964
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,080
I'm glad it wasn't as cheesy as the freaking real invisible jet.

965
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,240
Fair enough.

966
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,240
But she can fly.

967
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:39,360
Yeah, but she didn't know that she could fly at that point.

968
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:40,360
That's horseshit.

969
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,640
Yeah, my issue with this too is that she talks about like, I did it once on a coffee cup

970
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,000
and I don't know, I never found it again, which was a legit laugh I got.

971
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,080
But like, show us that a little bit.

972
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,680
I mean, like, I know that this is a very slippery slope where we could go into, we didn't see

973
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:04,000
the training for invisibility, but like, asking me to believe to just fall on a jet first

974
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,600
time, I was like, I kind of would like to see a flashback or something.

975
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,360
That's one that would have been cool too.

976
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,680
Like, what is going on in this sequence?

977
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,120
Is this a fever dream?

978
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,520
Like what is going on?

979
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,000
Yeah, exactly.

980
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:26,600
And I think it would have been like you said, I think it would have been nice to see earlier

981
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:32,640
in the movie, like maybe that's not a skill that she just did randomly 50 years ago.

982
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:38,360
Maybe it's something that she was like practicing to do at the beginning of the movie while

983
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,440
she's sitting alone at home.

984
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,520
Yeah, or just like hers be like, oh, you know, I went through the 60s, a weird time, I learned

985
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,480
how to make sure that invisible, I'll explain it later.

986
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,480
Like, you know, kind of thing.

987
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,080
But yeah, I mean, you know, I would like to see a little bit because there could have

988
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,520
been really cool moments there for that.

989
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,600
I don't know.

990
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:06,560
Yeah, the writing with this movie, it was just lacking in for in one, it was lacking

991
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:11,520
in any sense of reality.

992
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:18,160
Like, who I want to know who the hell thought it was a good idea to make the lasso just

993
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,240
like a frickin McGuffin.

994
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,360
Like anything that she needed the lasso to do it.

995
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,560
It did it frickin wrapped itself around a bullet like once and she was able to throw

996
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,040
it back at someone.

997
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,680
I'm calling absolute horse shit on that.

998
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Did it?

999
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,240
I haven't seen the first Wonder Woman in a very long time.

1000
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,240
So correct me if I'm wrong.

1001
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,640
But did she have a shield in that movie?

1002
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,400
Yes, she does.

1003
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,400
Yes.

1004
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,400
So where was that shield in this?

1005
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:51,120
I would I mean, yeah, for real, that would have even had in Batman v Superman.

1006
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,000
Yeah, I mean, she could have both a shield and the lasso like that would have been badass.

1007
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,000
I don't.

1008
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,400
Yeah, like I don't remember it breaking or anything.

1009
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,400
It was in Batman v Superman.

1010
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,680
Yeah, because she had it in and it was also in Justice League.

1011
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:09,480
I guess we're forgetting they outlawed shields in the 80s.

1012
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,480
I don't know.

1013
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,760
But I would like to see that apparently.

1014
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,040
Yeah, like, I mean, come on.

1015
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:26,320
There's just so much that they could have done to just justify it a little bit better.

1016
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,480
Mm hmm.

1017
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:33,080
Like Invisible Jet, go to a frickin airport.

1018
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,680
Like that's all you had to do.

1019
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,280
Just change the museum to airport.

1020
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,560
You're getting too close there to like 9-11 territory there.

1021
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,360
If you go to airport and steal an airplane, that's why they didn't do that.

1022
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,360
I guarantee it.

1023
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,360
Okay.

1024
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:46,360
Yeah, that one.

1025
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:53,920
I think it's been long enough.

1026
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:54,920
I don't know, buddy.

1027
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:55,920
I don't know.

1028
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,920
Okay, I don't.

1029
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:57,920
What's the phrase?

1030
01:02:57,920 --> 01:02:59,120
Never forget.

1031
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:00,120
That's it.

1032
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Yeah, that's like for like, I feel it's sometimes like too soon for even like anything revolving

1033
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,080
around Columbine.

1034
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,920
So it's probably way too soon for 9-11.

1035
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,440
All right.

1036
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:19,480
Maybe I'm just an asshole, but I mean, we already established that, but I'm just kidding.

1037
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:20,480
But either, okay, listen.

1038
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,040
Or just not do the Invisible Jet.

1039
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,040
Either way.

1040
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,040
Just not do the Invisible Jet.

1041
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,040
I'm just saying.

1042
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,960
I mean, yeah, that's an option too.

1043
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,240
Or save that for the third movie or I don't know.

1044
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,240
It just, whatever.

1045
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,240
There we go.

1046
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,240
There we go.

1047
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,240
Yeah.

1048
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:38,240
Shit.

1049
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:47,880
I will say though that this whole Invisible Jet scene, it was visually very cool when

1050
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,840
they're flying through the fireworks.

1051
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:53,320
Like this was, this looked very, like visually pleasing.

1052
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:54,320
It was really cool.

1053
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,640
I will say, I will say very cool shot.

1054
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,720
And you can tell that was like 99% of why they did this.

1055
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,960
Like this would be just a really cool shot to do it.

1056
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:09,920
And we got to get the Invisible Jet in there for the fans, super fans, I guess.

1057
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,240
Yeah.

1058
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,240
And I'm glad they did.

1059
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:20,360
I think they did an amazing job with that effect specifically.

1060
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,880
Which we'll get into with effects.

1061
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:30,760
But when it comes to writing, another thing that I think that was lacking, we didn't see,

1062
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,760
I don't, I mean, I don't think we did.

1063
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,800
I don't remember seeing a transformation scene for Cheetah.

1064
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:38,960
Oh, did she just, you're right.

1065
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,160
She kind of did just like cut to Cheetah.

1066
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,160
Yeah.

1067
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,160
That was it, right?

1068
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,160
Yeah.

1069
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:45,160
It was just bam.

1070
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,160
Yeah.

1071
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:51,800
Like he was just, so you see Pedro Pascale's character saying like, oh, I want, like I'm

1072
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,000
taking this from you.

1073
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,920
I'm taking this from you while he's doing his like crazy touching the world through

1074
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,920
video.

1075
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,920
Through broadcast?

1076
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:08,440
I still am not clear on what his plan was.

1077
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:13,760
Like I understand why he was kind of an evil guy, but I'm not, what was his end game?

1078
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,600
I'm still fuzzy on that.

1079
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,600
Quieting the Zoom.

1080
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,600
Yeah, see, like it's a little bit enough.

1081
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:25,640
I didn't quite get what his end game was.

1082
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,640
Yeah.

1083
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:27,640
His.

1084
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:32,640
I think he wanted to be someone that his son could look up to.

1085
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,240
But then it just, it went too far.

1086
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,240
Okay.

1087
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaking of his son, how did you guys feel the writing was between Max and what was his

1088
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:46,320
son, Alastair?

1089
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,920
I did not really like it at all.

1090
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,120
I don't know.

1091
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,680
His son was kind of annoying.

1092
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,480
Dude, I lot.

1093
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:59,440
So the only scene that I was like, aww with the son was the first one where you see him

1094
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,920
get, where you see Pager or Maxwell get called a loser.

1095
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,040
And then the kid is just standing there like on the verge of tears.

1096
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,720
And I'm just like, oh my gosh.

1097
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:09,720
Okay.

1098
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:10,720
Yeah.

1099
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:11,720
That's devastating.

1100
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:12,720
But even when they, even when she's just like.

1101
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,480
I actually gave a bonus.

1102
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,360
I gave a bonus point in acting for that scene alone.

1103
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:23,200
I'm like, that kid deserves it.

1104
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:29,280
But even like at the end when they come together again and he's just like, oh, I've never thought

1105
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,640
you were a bad dad and all this shit.

1106
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,960
And I'm, I don't know.

1107
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,680
I'm just like, this is kind of like boring, annoying.

1108
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,200
And I feel like no motion at all.

1109
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,400
Maybe I'm a jackass here, but.

1110
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:47,160
Again, it's just like a cheesy eighties comic brought to life.

1111
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,040
And that's like why so much of this is just super cheesy.

1112
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,520
I was kind of annoyed when we just randomly see, what was the system name?

1113
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,520
Alastair.

1114
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,520
Just, we just.

1115
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,520
Yeah.

1116
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:03,440
And towards the end of the movie, like what brings Pedro back to the light is that we

1117
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,600
get like this vision of Alastair just aimlessly walking through the streets and traffic and

1118
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,760
stuff is exploding and stuff like that.

1119
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:12,760
I don't know.

1120
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,320
I was kind of, it threw me out of the movie.

1121
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,920
I went, how did that kid wind up on like this interstate exit ramp?

1122
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,480
Like what is going on?

1123
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,480
Yeah, I absolutely agree.

1124
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,440
I want to know how he ended up on a white house lawn.

1125
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,440
Yeah.

1126
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,840
I don't know.

1127
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,200
It felt cheap.

1128
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,840
It felt like it was a cheap way to try to grab at like your heartstrings or whatever.

1129
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,160
And I just, I didn't, I did not care for that specifically.

1130
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,360
Just him walking on the interstate or whatever.

1131
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:42,360
I don't know.

1132
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:43,360
No, I agree.

1133
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,360
It didn't work.

1134
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,360
Yeah, it did.

1135
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,240
They could have done that 10 different ways or a hundred different ways would have been

1136
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,840
a lot better.

1137
01:07:51,840 --> 01:08:00,760
I think there was a lot of poor decision making with the, like, like with Diana and everything.

1138
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:05,120
Like the White House fight scene between her and Barbara.

1139
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:11,000
I think that the conversation that was being had when Diana was thrown up against the wall,

1140
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,600
like she was just like sit like laying there.

1141
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,880
I'm like, it looks like she gave up.

1142
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,760
Well, yeah, but she was also like, getting pretty powerless at that point.

1143
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,760
Yeah.

1144
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:23,760
Yeah.

1145
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:31,520
But I mean, Wonder Woman is just kind of like the inspiring, like till the end kind of vibe,

1146
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:32,560
I would feel like.

1147
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,400
So it felt weird for her to just be like laying there.

1148
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:37,400
Yeah.

1149
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,400
But I mean, I get what you're saying.

1150
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:43,120
Like she's till the end kind of person, but that's like when she actually has her powers

1151
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:48,000
to in that scene, honestly, she was basically like, she was like laying up against the wall

1152
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,480
when she was dealing with Maxwell.

1153
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:58,560
And who knows what the hell he was standing in with that damn light.

1154
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,440
For real, though, I think a lot of this kind of plays into some stuff that you pointed

1155
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:08,520
out, Caleb, about how the it was like the original comic or the TV shows, how she was

1156
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:16,320
able to kind of sort of beat her or conquer her adversaries through like reason and discussion.

1157
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:20,360
And I've heard that Patty Jenkins, that was a goal of her for this movie.

1158
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,480
She had like two check marks that she wanted to do.

1159
01:09:23,480 --> 01:09:27,120
Maybe there's a third one because there's always a rule of three and I just forgot it.

1160
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,520
But her two check marks were that she didn't want anybody to die.

1161
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,560
No major characters in this movie died.

1162
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:38,720
And also she wanted she didn't want there to be a final battle.

1163
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:45,560
Like there she Diana didn't have to beat Maxwell by physically fighting him.

1164
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,360
She reasoned him out of it.

1165
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,900
And that was like that was like Patty Jenkins.

1166
01:09:49,900 --> 01:09:51,560
She says she did.

1167
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:57,120
That was like her mission of this movie was to use that as how she wins the day by discussion.

1168
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,220
She thought it was like important to have that in this and also kind of like a challenge

1169
01:10:00,220 --> 01:10:01,220
for her.

1170
01:10:01,220 --> 01:10:04,920
But since you brought up that's how the source material was, I wonder if it was more of an

1171
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,080
homage to that than the latter or the other thing.

1172
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:18,400
I like I have no issue with like how how she ended up beating him.

1173
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:29,480
It's just his plan and like being in the that spotlight and whatever felt odd.

1174
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:37,760
And I think that I would have preferred for her to instead of like trying to like whip

1175
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,560
his leg.

1176
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:45,880
I think I would have preferred for her to walk through the craziness like the the tornado

1177
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:47,540
that was happening in that room.

1178
01:10:47,540 --> 01:10:56,240
I would have preferred for her to walk through that and then like grab him and then wrap

1179
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,520
the lasso around his arm and then show him the truth.

1180
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,880
So it's like they're face to face.

1181
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,200
Like I would have preferred something more along those lines just because I felt like

1182
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:14,200
that would have been like more like a heroic moment instead of her being like at a super

1183
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:18,040
far distance with a with the lasso.

1184
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:25,080
And yeah, I think it's just there's just something about that confrontation.

1185
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:30,760
And I think we got cheated from that because she was trying to go for a non confrontational

1186
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,760
ending.

1187
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:40,360
And I think Wonder Woman she does confront things like head on.

1188
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:48,040
It's just in a different way like Superman's going to go freaking head to head punching

1189
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,800
some dude.

1190
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:55,480
Wonder Woman is going to go is going to face to face conversation like freaking hit you

1191
01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:58,640
with the hard truth.

1192
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,640
It's been a while since I've seen this movie because I watched it on Christmas Day.

1193
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,520
But isn't she also not talking to him?

1194
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:10,640
She's like using like she's broadcasting her voice through him to the rest of the world

1195
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,520
to tell everyone else to renounce their she's talking to him.

1196
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,120
How the hell is she doing that too?

1197
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,520
Yeah, she's Wonder Woman man.

1198
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,360
I mean, I don't know how else to explain it.

1199
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,360
The lasso was connected.

1200
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,720
I don't know.

1201
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,860
That's like the most explanation I want for this movie.

1202
01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:31,660
That's why I think the whole face to face thing would have worked better because then

1203
01:12:31,660 --> 01:12:35,920
it could be like she's right next to him.

1204
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:41,560
And so everything she's saying is getting broadcast to everyone else.

1205
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,960
And it's not like at a distance.

1206
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:45,960
Proximity is important for Caleb.

1207
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:46,960
I like it.

1208
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:47,960
Fair enough.

1209
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:55,600
Yeah, just like when it comes to like heroic moments, you don't want to like you never

1210
01:12:55,600 --> 01:13:02,080
want to see your hero take someone on from a distance.

1211
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,640
It's just you want them to be upfront with them.

1212
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:07,640
Like it's true.

1213
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:12,160
At least that's how how I feel.

1214
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,440
Like I'm trying like I'm thinking it didn't feel like a real moment.

1215
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:16,440
Yeah, you're right.

1216
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:21,600
It it didn't have it didn't land a metaphorical punch.

1217
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,000
Yeah.

1218
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:28,160
And like I'm thinking back to like Winter Soldier, the final scene between Captain America

1219
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,800
and Winter Soldier, they're face to face.

1220
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,960
And Captain America is is basically kind of doing this.

1221
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:40,240
He's reasoning, like trying to reason with with Bucky.

1222
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,440
And it's that face to face.

1223
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:48,760
Like I don't think it would have had the same impact had Captain America been up on a stand.

1224
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:55,800
Like at a distance, like I'm with you and they're like super far apart.

1225
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,360
Or with.

1226
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:00,360
Let's see.

1227
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,320
Oh, OK.

1228
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:09,000
With Thor and Thanos in Infinity War, face to face, like it's always like up close.

1229
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,040
Like I feel like the only time that they do things at a distance is when there's like

1230
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:15,480
a sniper involved.

1231
01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:18,000
So that's just something that I wish that they would have done.

1232
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:23,600
I feel like that heroic moment, like you've said, would would be more of like a punch.

1233
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,000
Yeah, it's a good point.

1234
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,280
So definitely can see why this scored lower than story.

1235
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:39,760
Yeah, because there's like kind of a story there, but there's not that much writing there.

1236
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,040
I don't know.

1237
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:50,440
Well, the writing, like we involve like the logic of everything, and I think the whole

1238
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:55,800
invisible jet being fueled up enough to go across the world is is enough.

1239
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,880
Yeah, it felt like there was a lot of like half baked ideas of like somebody running

1240
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:02,200
into the room, but like, guys, we got to get the invisible jet in.

1241
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:06,160
Just write it in or, you know.

1242
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:07,960
Yeah.

1243
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,000
All right.

1244
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,720
Next up, we got acting.

1245
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:20,360
So I'm assuming you guys, I did like the four main Chris Pine, Gal Gadot, Pedro Pascal and

1246
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,560
Kristen Wiig.

1247
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,640
Yep.

1248
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:29,120
So who do you guys think did the best out of everyone?

1249
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,120
Like scared to say.

1250
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,000
I do.

1251
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,800
Okay, well, I'm going to say I really liked both.

1252
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:42,920
I don't know which one I have ahead, but I really like both Pedro Pascal and Kristen

1253
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:43,920
Wiig in this.

1254
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:50,800
I might get some flack for saying Kristen Wiig in the top part of this, but it was mainly

1255
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,040
when she turned evil.

1256
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,320
I like really liked her because the first half of the movie, she's just being Kristen

1257
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:00,640
Wiig from SNL the whole time.

1258
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,280
I got more of a oh, sorry.

1259
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,280
No, no, no, go ahead.

1260
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:08,680
You know, at the beginning, she like seriously felt like her character, Aaron Gilbert in

1261
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,680
Ghostbusters.

1262
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:10,680
Yeah.

1263
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,920
I was like, okay, is this literally how she is in every single movie?

1264
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:15,920
Yeah.

1265
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,160
When she plays like a nerdy kind of character.

1266
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,280
Yeah, I was kind of like, yeah, you're Kristen Wiig.

1267
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:22,280
You're really funny.

1268
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:23,280
We all get it.

1269
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:24,560
Like you were on SNL for a long time.

1270
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,040
You're a very funny comedian.

1271
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,840
I love you.

1272
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:32,640
Give me something else, you know, but we did kind of get, we did kind of get other stuff

1273
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:37,320
when she started to turn and especially like when she went to the gym for the, which was

1274
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,160
just a crazy scene.

1275
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:44,600
Like she goes in like that swimsuit or whatever.

1276
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,440
It was kind of like, whoa, okay, we are in the gym.

1277
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:52,480
But I really did like her though when she started, when she did turn, because I'd like

1278
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:53,480
Kristen Wiig being evil.

1279
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:57,920
I thought she did a good job until she became a CGI character.

1280
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,120
In Pedro Pascal, he is just chewing the scenery in this.

1281
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,280
He's just having a ball like you can just tell he's just like, I finally have that helmet

1282
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:10,320
off from the Mandalorian and I am just going to use every inch of my face and my hair and

1283
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,560
my highlights and just wave it all around.

1284
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,880
Like I was kind of digging his flamboyantness in this.

1285
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,840
I really liked it.

1286
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,480
Yeah, I have actually total agreement with you.

1287
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:26,760
Pedro Pascal, I think, blew out of the water.

1288
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:30,360
He was actually the top spot for me.

1289
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:40,000
I think the way that I ranked it was Pedro Pascal, Gal Gadot, then Chris Pine, then Kristen

1290
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,920
Wiig, but the margins were fairly close.

1291
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:51,440
It's just because like, oh, well, actually I might put Chris Pine at the bottom now that

1292
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:53,440
I'm like thinking about it.

1293
01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:54,440
I can accept that as well.

1294
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:55,440
A little bit more.

1295
01:17:55,440 --> 01:18:03,160
But yeah, I think that's how I would have ranked it.

1296
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:10,480
I loved Pedro Pascal and like the freaking memes that came from this.

1297
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:13,360
Life is good, but it could be better.

1298
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:16,800
Oh, that meme is so great.

1299
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,280
Oh my God.

1300
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,600
Like he's such an underrated actor.

1301
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,880
He is.

1302
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,240
He's doing such a good job.

1303
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:34,760
Sorry, you go ahead, Rose.

1304
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,000
No, I don't know.

1305
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,480
For me, I'm going to be different than you guys.

1306
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:40,840
I'm actually going to put Kristen Wiig at the top for me.

1307
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:47,160
I loved her performance up until like you said, Brucker, when she became a CGI character.

1308
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:51,160
The reason why she's higher though for me than Pedro Pascal, it's like neck and neck,

1309
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:57,360
but what dropped Pedro for me is, I don't know, every single scene he had with his son,

1310
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:58,360
I don't know.

1311
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,880
I just couldn't get on board with it.

1312
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,600
And that's not really his fault.

1313
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,720
But it's just, I don't know.

1314
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,160
That just like knocked him down a little bit for me.

1315
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:15,000
But I agree with you guys, like how flamboyant he was being, all the movements he was doing.

1316
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,640
Yeah, there we go.

1317
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:17,640
Yeah, animated.

1318
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:18,640
I loved it.

1319
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:24,400
Like you said, he took advantage of not having to have the Mandalorian helmet on and he was

1320
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,200
fantastic in this.

1321
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:32,880
And then I don't know, I can't just, it'd probably be Gal Gadot and then Chris Pine

1322
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,920
as much as I hate to put Chris Pine at the bottom, Gal Gadot still did have a little

1323
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,800
bit more to do.

1324
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:43,720
Kind of stinks putting Wonder Woman herself at third, but I think I just like those characters

1325
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:44,960
a little more.

1326
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:49,080
They definitely did a better job at establishing villains in this movie than heroes.

1327
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,080
Exactly.

1328
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,800
Yeah, I think because of what you just said, that makes sense for why Wonder Woman would

1329
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,400
be kind of like in the middle of the pack for this.

1330
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,400
Yeah.

1331
01:19:58,400 --> 01:19:59,400
Yeah.

1332
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:06,120
I think that honestly, I feel like the Cheetah fight could have been pulled from this movie

1333
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,120
completely.

1334
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,640
Considering it was all spoiled in the trailer.

1335
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,640
Was there that?

1336
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:14,640
Yes.

1337
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,040
I mean, it's just like, what was the purpose?

1338
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:22,240
The purpose was that she was coming down in the armor, gets the armor fricking beat to

1339
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:27,720
shit and then nothing comes of that fight.

1340
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,880
Yeah, the purpose was solely for the armor.

1341
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,000
I feel like they have a conversation.

1342
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:40,000
They had to give her some sort of physical adversary so that way she had an excuse to

1343
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,300
wear that armor, which I'm pretty sure we can all admit, it looked super dope.

1344
01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:50,960
It looked really cool, but that's the best thing about that is that the armor looked

1345
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,960
cool.

1346
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,200
The fight, I kind of agree with you.

1347
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,760
I felt like we didn't need it.

1348
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:58,000
We probably still could have had the fight.

1349
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:02,880
We just didn't need her to be a wild animal for it.

1350
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:09,880
Yeah, and especially the scene where Wonder Woman electrocutes Cheetah.

1351
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,440
You pointed out with Patty Jenkins, she didn't want anyone to die.

1352
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:17,280
The fact that Cheetah doesn't die, I'm like, okay, so then what the hell is the point?

1353
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:20,080
What was she saying sorry for?

1354
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,080
Yeah.

1355
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,080
Yeah.

1356
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:25,920
Like, I don't get it.

1357
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,680
Yeah, that whole thing.

1358
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:35,280
I feel like that could have been, I think Wonder Woman could have tried discussing

1359
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:40,720
things or trying to make an argument with her, but it seemed like she's just like, Barbara,

1360
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:41,720
what did you do?

1361
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:42,720
Fight, fight, fight.

1362
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:43,720
Stop it.

1363
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,720
This isn't who you are.

1364
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,720
Fight, fight, fight.

1365
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:46,720
Electrocute shit.

1366
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:47,720
You leave me no choice.

1367
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:48,720
Electrocute, bam.

1368
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:49,720
Yep.

1369
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:50,720
Yeah, and then that's it.

1370
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,720
That's all that came from that fight.

1371
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:59,960
It was kind of like, I don't know if you all have seen George Lucas, his behind the scenes

1372
01:21:59,960 --> 01:22:05,880
stuff for Revenge of the Sith, but the final duel between Obi-Wan and Anakin.

1373
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,560
He said, I cheated a lot in the writing.

1374
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,920
I just wrote a lot of, and they fight in the script.

1375
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,280
He comes out and he's like, I just wrote a lot of, and they fight.

1376
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,480
So that's what that reminded me.

1377
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:19,680
You saying that is kind of like what this was.

1378
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:20,680
And they fight.

1379
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,640
And they say, how did you do this?

1380
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,040
And they do this.

1381
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:26,040
Yeah.

1382
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:35,160
Like, I don't, like, the reason I put Kristen Wiig a little bit lower on my ratings is because

1383
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:39,160
it didn't feel like that was Kristen Wiig.

1384
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,280
First off, it doesn't look like her.

1385
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:43,800
And they don't talk.

1386
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,640
I mean, I feel it's kind of not supposed to look like her.

1387
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:51,440
It's supposed to feel like she actually is an official Apex animal.

1388
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:54,240
She's fully gone, animal form.

1389
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,800
Barbara is completely gone.

1390
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:57,800
But she's still humanoid.

1391
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,760
She still has a human face.

1392
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,440
At least that part should have looked like Kristen Wiig.

1393
01:23:04,440 --> 01:23:05,440
Yeah.

1394
01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:06,440
I'll give him this, though.

1395
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:09,520
I'll give you that.

1396
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:22,560
I will absolutely give you that.

1397
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,920
So our collective score together on acting came to an 81.6.

1398
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,480
Damn, all right.

1399
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:31,360
Like, that's not bad.

1400
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:32,360
I'm happy.

1401
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:33,360
Yeah.

1402
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,000
I'm actually the one that was the harshest on acting.

1403
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,040
So what'd you give it, Caleb?

1404
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,040
What did I end up giving it?

1405
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:43,040
One second.

1406
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,320
I gave it a 78.

1407
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,320
Shit.

1408
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:47,320
Yeah.

1409
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:53,280
And then you gave it the highest with an 85 and then Brucker gave it an 82.

1410
01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:54,280
Okay.

1411
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:59,840
Like I said, I feel I was maybe, like, a little too nice.

1412
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,720
I actually thought I gave it a 90 for a minute.

1413
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,480
Nobody's being, like, considered for a nomination of an Oscar from this movie.

1414
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:10,000
I mean, like, they did, like, they got the job done.

1415
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:16,360
And I feel like that's with a little bit more shoosh or zoosh from Pedro Pascal.

1416
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:22,240
If anyone does get nominated, it should be Chris Pine for his, well, shit, Diana.

1417
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:27,400
No, what about that little girl at the beginning with the wink to Wonder Woman?

1418
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:28,400
That's who should be nominated.

1419
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:29,400
Oh, my gosh.

1420
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:30,400
Come on.

1421
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,080
She was the show stealer.

1422
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,360
All right, moving on to character development.

1423
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:43,520
This actually got a fairly average score.

1424
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:44,520
It got a 74.

1425
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:45,520
Okay.

1426
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:51,040
Might be a little higher than, that's like a tad higher than what I had, but.

1427
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,280
Yeah, it's actually.

1428
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,960
Let me guess, I was the nicest to this one.

1429
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,440
Yep, you were.

1430
01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:58,440
Of course.

1431
01:24:58,440 --> 01:24:59,440
And that's fine.

1432
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:00,440
I'm a walker.

1433
01:25:00,440 --> 01:25:01,440
There's nothing wrong with that.

1434
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:07,480
I mean, to me, for character development, it was very minimal at that.

1435
01:25:07,480 --> 01:25:13,360
It was mostly Pedro Pascal and Kristen Wiig kind of like Kristen Wiig.

1436
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,760
We saw her development to Cheetah, but I'm like, we didn't really see it come back around

1437
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:19,760
either.

1438
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,760
I don't think.

1439
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:21,760
That's true.

1440
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,200
No, we didn't see it come.

1441
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:28,800
Like we didn't see like the full transition because we, we skipped out on the transformation

1442
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,440
scene altogether.

1443
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:33,880
It's just suddenly she's a Cheetah.

1444
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:39,840
Well, I mean, we, we, we definitely see her fall, like going down that path and to where

1445
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,640
she gets to the point where she wants to become an apex predator.

1446
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,760
And I feel like at that point, I mean, when she asked for that wish, which like I will

1447
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:55,840
say is a dumb wish, but I think the logic behind it is that she had just conquered Diana,

1448
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,320
who she wished to be in combat.

1449
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,760
And she's like, okay, I've beaten my hero.

1450
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,600
I'm using air quotes here.

1451
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,360
So I got to be something better.

1452
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,920
I want to be an apex predator.

1453
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,680
Did they literally need to make her a Cheetah?

1454
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:15,680
No, but I kind of, I could, I could follow those points in that character development

1455
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,120
where like mentally how she got to that point, I could follow that clearly.

1456
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,320
I think I just don't see it coming back.

1457
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:24,560
Yeah.

1458
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,760
So the question for you guys is when Pedro Pesca or Max, right?

1459
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:30,760
That's his name.

1460
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,200
I was just calling Pedro Pascal's character the whole time.

1461
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,200
I don't know.

1462
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:35,200
Pedro Pascal's character.

1463
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,200
I saw this on Christmas guys.

1464
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,200
I'm sorry.

1465
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,200
No, you're good, man.

1466
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,200
You're good.

1467
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:43,160
I even, I don't remember it and I watched it two days ago.

1468
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,960
But when Pedro, you know, like when Kristen Wake says, oh, you know, I want to be an apex

1469
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:47,960
predator.

1470
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,000
And he's just like, doesn't he say your wish has been granted?

1471
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,480
Yeah.

1472
01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:56,960
Do you, do you wish that you would have actually started to see her transformation and maybe

1473
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:02,560
see like Kristen Wig, like maybe like resent her choice a little bit because of like, maybe

1474
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,680
like I'm assuming it was very painful.

1475
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,640
We just see a tail out of her pants.

1476
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:13,640
She's like, Oh no, I wish it undone.

1477
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,280
I wish it undone.

1478
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:26,520
So one, so I listened to another podcast, Dynamic Duel and it's like Marvel versus DC.

1479
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:32,800
So they actually did a, an episode where they did kind of an origin of Cheetah.

1480
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:39,720
They put her in a duel against Rhino from Marvel.

1481
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,560
Interesting.

1482
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:48,480
And so like the way that they do it, they, they give like a quick origin of the character.

1483
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:55,920
And I was like, after listening to the origin, I was really excited for this because the

1484
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:06,300
way that Cheetah becomes Cheetah is she gets her powers from the, the, that God.

1485
01:28:06,300 --> 01:28:11,820
So the God that created the dream stone, that's who she gets her powers from.

1486
01:28:11,820 --> 01:28:20,040
So I think that like a better way to incorporate Cheetah would have been to, and obviously

1487
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:28,920
this would have gone against Patty Jenkins wishes and had like a final battle.

1488
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:36,480
I think it would have been cool for Wonder Woman to beat Maxwell Lord, basically get,

1489
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:44,800
like get all the wishes taken back and then having Barbara make a deal with that God.

1490
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,480
And then that's how she becomes Cheetah.

1491
01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:54,040
Cause that's like, she, I think that's how, if I'm remembering correctly, I think that's

1492
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,480
how it happened in her origin.

1493
01:28:56,480 --> 01:29:04,440
She gets possessed by, or she gets, gets her powers given to her by this God who's like

1494
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:09,640
the impersonation of a, or personification of a Cheetah.

1495
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,020
Interesting.

1496
01:29:11,020 --> 01:29:14,040
But it's also the God of like the lies and deception.

1497
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:22,160
So kind of the same person as the, the same God that created the dream stone.

1498
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,560
That would have been cool to get a little bit more insight into that in this movie.

1499
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,240
That sounds really interesting.

1500
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:28,240
That is.

1501
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:33,440
But like I said, that would have gone against what Patty was going for.

1502
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:39,760
So probably not what she wanted to do.

1503
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,640
And I know we keep talking about Patty Jenkins, but can we, cause I don't think that this

1504
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,320
is a category, can we agree that it's like directed well?

1505
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,560
Like there's nothing, I felt like nothing extremely wrong with the direction.

1506
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,880
It was like kind of like the stuff that we've been talking about, like the writing and the

1507
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:58,440
story and things like that have been kind of like the major flaws of this movie so far.

1508
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:01,480
Yeah, I can absolutely agree with that.

1509
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:04,600
I think Patty did a really good job.

1510
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:10,640
Cause I mean, like there are like things of this movie I do enjoy.

1511
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,240
I mean, right now we're kind of like, you know, going through this stuff that like,

1512
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:19,120
you know, why did that, what led to our average to mediocre scoring?

1513
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,380
And so we got to bring out the, the negative things, but you know, there were some good

1514
01:30:22,380 --> 01:30:23,380
stuff.

1515
01:30:23,380 --> 01:30:25,040
There was some good stuff about this.

1516
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:26,040
Yeah.

1517
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,040
Yeah.

1518
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,640
There absolutely was like a 74 still passing.

1519
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:30,640
Yeah.

1520
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,160
I think that's still fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

1521
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,640
I think not the best.

1522
01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:35,640
Yeah.

1523
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,840
Wait, did you say it is still fresh on Rotten Tomatoes?

1524
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,480
I think I could be wrong.

1525
01:30:41,480 --> 01:30:43,160
I don't, I don't know.

1526
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:47,200
What's a, what's a fresh score on Rotten Tomatoes?

1527
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:48,960
60 or higher.

1528
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:50,720
60 or higher.

1529
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:51,720
Yeah.

1530
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:52,720
So yeah.

1531
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:57,160
That's, so 74 is right in line with it's still a fresh score.

1532
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:02,880
What's funny is 74 is the audience score, 60 is the critic score.

1533
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:03,880
Interesting.

1534
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,280
So it's barely made it.

1535
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,760
Let's see if it drops.

1536
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:10,760
Sorry.

1537
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,760
I didn't mean to derail us.

1538
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:15,280
I was, I just kind of just wanted to, in case people were getting the assumption that we

1539
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,160
were kind of just using this as like a Patty Jenkins slam.

1540
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,400
That's not, I don't think what we're trying to do here.

1541
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:21,720
No, no, not at all.

1542
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:22,720
Yeah.

1543
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:23,720
Cause the direction of that was funny.

1544
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:30,200
That's kind of why we don't, yeah, that's kind of why we don't talk about like the direction

1545
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:36,160
is just because I know that the directors have a lot of, get a lot of feedback and input

1546
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:39,680
from the studio, from like the corporate.

1547
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:45,920
So I think they were also kind of the ones that pushed some stuff in that maybe she was,

1548
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,480
she didn't want to do.

1549
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:56,040
So it's kind of like giving her an out more or less on like why we don't talk about the

1550
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,040
direction.

1551
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:04,980
But yeah, but I kind of agree with it.

1552
01:32:04,980 --> 01:32:08,440
Like with the character development, we've been talking about the villains.

1553
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:13,240
We haven't really talked about Wonder Woman and I think that's because her character development

1554
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,280
is like, it's almost absent.

1555
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,640
I mean, kind of is, yeah.

1556
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:21,640
Maybe she kind of, again, I feel the biggest.

1557
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:28,080
Her development is the truth thing is like realizing that her wish is not truth and giving

1558
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:29,080
that up.

1559
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:30,800
Like that's the most development she has.

1560
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,360
Yeah, that's literally it.

1561
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:36,960
And I feel like that's held together by like bubble gum and paper clips.

1562
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,960
Like I feel like it's not a real strong story or her arc.

1563
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:46,160
I mean, like we do with the two villains, they have a pretty strong clear path that

1564
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,200
we're following and maybe it's just because we're kind of stuck with them for most of

1565
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,400
the movie.

1566
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,160
Yeah.

1567
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,720
So I think 74 is really good score.

1568
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,000
I could live with it.

1569
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:04,440
If you're incorporating everyone.

1570
01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:06,120
But Alistair, what did he learn?

1571
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:11,120
Did he, I don't know, pass his spelling test or whatever the hell kids are going through

1572
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,120
these days?

1573
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,960
I don't know.

1574
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:17,920
Did he learn his dad is an a loser's actually?

1575
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,920
Yeah, he did say that.

1576
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:27,880
Like he wished for his father's greatness.

1577
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:33,720
Like what got taken away from him?

1578
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,040
Like that would that would suck.

1579
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:42,080
I guess his mom, because we never see his mom in this movie.

1580
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:47,840
Or that babysitter does what he's on the interstate.

1581
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:52,120
She got Thanos.

1582
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:58,120
Just dusted like that.

1583
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:03,680
So effects was actually a little bit higher than character development.

1584
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:04,680
So effects got a 74.3.

1585
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:05,680
Oh, okay.

1586
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,680
I thought the effects were okay.

1587
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:09,680
Yeah.

1588
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:15,320
It mostly lost points for me with Cheetah.

1589
01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:18,160
There were some parts with like Wonder Woman jumping around or like some parts with The

1590
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,560
Last of the Truth did not look completely realistic.

1591
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:27,760
Yeah, I guess it just depends what kind of TV you watch this on.

1592
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:32,320
Maybe I didn't watch it on a good TV.

1593
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:41,040
I the few visual effects moments that stood out to me, one of them was when she was learning

1594
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:42,280
how to fly.

1595
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,560
I actually really dug how that looked.

1596
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:47,560
That looked really good.

1597
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,800
I thought that was freaking beautifully done.

1598
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,240
Yeah, I agree.

1599
01:34:52,240 --> 01:35:01,720
I also gave some like major bonus points for the flying through the fireworks.

1600
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:03,480
So I thought that was good.

1601
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:11,400
The things that I docked for was when they were in Egypt and she sees these kids about

1602
01:35:11,400 --> 01:35:17,520
to get ran over by the freaking trucks and she goes and does a swing around them.

1603
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:25,120
The kids are running and if you notice while she's swinging down, she fully grabs one kid

1604
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:30,920
with the bulk of her arm and then there's another kid that the one at the end kind of

1605
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:36,760
like glitches into her hands.

1606
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:42,000
And then she goes and they do a tumble and then the kids are fine.

1607
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,480
Those kids would be dead.

1608
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:44,480
Seriously.

1609
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:51,560
They just got hit by a full grown woman flying at a half past.

1610
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:57,800
I docked for that and I also docked for Cheetah because I thought Cheetah looked like garbage.

1611
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,440
I actually didn't mind Cheetah.

1612
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:02,400
I thought Cheetah looked all right.

1613
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,760
I didn't hate her.

1614
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:06,760
I think it could have been better.

1615
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,760
Oh, another thing I missed.

1616
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,480
Yeah, another thing I missed.

1617
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:15,600
Wonder Woman running in Egypt when she was running down the street.

1618
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,960
That looked like that good.

1619
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:19,440
That didn't bug me.

1620
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:20,440
That did not.

1621
01:36:20,440 --> 01:36:21,440
There was too much slow motion.

1622
01:36:21,440 --> 01:36:23,160
There was way too much slow motion.

1623
01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:27,600
It was really cool though when they got that slow motion of her flipping through or out

1624
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,240
of one of the trucks and the truck is flipping and everything.

1625
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:32,240
She's like flying through.

1626
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:33,240
That part was cool.

1627
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:34,720
That looked really cool.

1628
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,640
Okay, yeah, that was cool.

1629
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:37,640
That was way cool.

1630
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:38,640
But her running.

1631
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:43,480
Yeah, it kind of looked like she was just on a treadmill.

1632
01:36:43,480 --> 01:36:44,480
She probably was.

1633
01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:49,520
I mean, Gal Gadot was probably on a treadmill though, like in front of a green screen.

1634
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,400
Yeah, good point.

1635
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:57,800
I would laugh so hard if they flew her out to Egypt just to put a treadmill on that road.

1636
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,080
That would be amazing.

1637
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,080
Worth it.

1638
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,080
Yeah.

1639
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,880
I wish that they would have gone...

1640
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:07,920
Have you guys seen how they did the...

1641
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:15,120
It's the scene in Civil War where Black Panther and Winter Soldier drop into that tunnel and

1642
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,120
start running.

1643
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,240
Have you guys seen how they do that?

1644
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:24,880
So they're just dragging a pad and then they're running on the pad.

1645
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:30,920
I think that would have been more effective than whatever the hell they did in this movie.

1646
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,400
I wonder if there's any sort of...

1647
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:33,400
Like you said, it was probably...

1648
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:34,400
Oh, I'm sorry.

1649
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:37,760
I was just going to say, I wonder if there's any sort of animosity towards Marvel.

1650
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,800
We're not doing how they do their stunts.

1651
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,880
Nope, we're not doing anything that Marvel does.

1652
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,320
We're not going to be copycats or whatever.

1653
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,440
Oh, that's so petty.

1654
01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:51,560
That is so petty.

1655
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,200
How do they get Captain America to run so fast?

1656
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:54,520
Well, that's fucking stupid.

1657
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,520
We'll do it better.

1658
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:01,240
I need 20 grand for a Peloton.

1659
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,680
I need 20...

1660
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,680
Oh, shit.

1661
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:11,680
It was shit like that that I'm just like, eh.

1662
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,360
That's why she doesn't have her shield in this movie because they don't want to be like

1663
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:16,680
Captain America.

1664
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:20,080
I'm just kidding.

1665
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,520
But yeah.

1666
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:25,520
That makes sense to me.

1667
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:30,360
Yeah, so I think a 74 is pretty good.

1668
01:38:30,360 --> 01:38:35,520
Honestly, I think that's maybe a bit high just because of the stuff that I didn't like.

1669
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:36,520
Just because of the running?

1670
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:39,040
That just would really kill...

1671
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:40,040
That and Cheetah.

1672
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,120
Cheetah, I didn't like Cheetah.

1673
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:44,600
I liked her.

1674
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:45,600
This is me though.

1675
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:50,200
There was a reason why that fight was during dusk when it was dark.

1676
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:51,200
Fair enough.

1677
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:55,080
They were trying to hide it.

1678
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:58,680
Crocker actually gave it the highest score.

1679
01:38:58,680 --> 01:38:59,680
Really?

1680
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:00,680
Yeah.

1681
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:04,040
I mean, Cheetah was my main thing.

1682
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,920
Other than that, I thought the rest of it was fine for the most part.

1683
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:12,040
At least I didn't see anything that was obvious, but the running was kind of wonky.

1684
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:21,560
Yeah, so I think 74 is fair.

1685
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:28,200
Moving on to music, we unanimously gave it a 7.

1686
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,360
Right on.

1687
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:32,520
You know what would have given this a higher score?

1688
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,280
If they played some 80s music.

1689
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:39,640
Why wasn't there any 80s music in this 80s movie?

1690
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:40,640
For real though.

1691
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:41,640
Exactly.

1692
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,680
They spent all their money on that Egyptian Peloton.

1693
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:54,680
I just don't know why they didn't do that.

1694
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:59,080
Even the Wonder Woman score, I don't feel like that was...

1695
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:05,480
It didn't seem or feel as epic as it had.

1696
01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:11,200
I personally didn't have too many complaints about it, but I have heard other movie reviewers

1697
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:18,080
say that her theme music didn't fit with the rest of the theatrical score of this movie.

1698
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:22,340
It just felt like they had to put it in there because that's her score and they didn't try

1699
01:40:22,340 --> 01:40:26,160
to adjust it to sound 80s at all and that's what they should have done.

1700
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:31,600
So I've heard a lot of those criticisms.

1701
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:38,840
I would have been perfectly happy had they just played her normal score where it was

1702
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:46,160
like the electric guitar when she makes her appearance in Batman v Superman.

1703
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:52,600
I think that was so cool and I think that epicness would have worked really well because

1704
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:58,560
that electric guitar almost sounds a little bit techno.

1705
01:40:58,560 --> 01:40:59,560
A little bit.

1706
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:00,560
Fair.

1707
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,880
Just like a hint of techno to it.

1708
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:10,480
I think it would have translated really well, but they went with a more different style

1709
01:41:10,480 --> 01:41:14,160
of playing it and I didn't like it as much.

1710
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:19,000
But yeah, I think this would have done really well with an 80s soundtrack.

1711
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:20,440
Oh yeah, absolutely.

1712
01:41:20,440 --> 01:41:22,840
This would have made people love it, I think.

1713
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,360
Because people would have been like, oh who cares, I got to listen to Prince for two and

1714
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,360
a half hours.

1715
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,000
Yeah.

1716
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:34,200
And I remember listening to your episode on Star Wars, that's what saved Star Wars.

1717
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:39,840
Everyone was just like, oh this story sucks, but then they throw the music in and they're

1718
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,960
like, this is epic.

1719
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:46,520
The story doesn't suck, but it would have sucked as a whole if they had crazy techno

1720
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:47,520
music.

1721
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,600
I had to make sure that you didn't drag my name through the mud like that, Caleb, you

1722
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:51,600
bastard.

1723
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,600
But yeah.

1724
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,640
Wait, which Star Wars was it that you were in?

1725
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,240
A New Hope, the first one.

1726
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:00,240
Oh, okay.

1727
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:06,480
I thought it was going to be like The Last Jedi or The Rise of Skywalker.

1728
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:07,480
No.

1729
01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:08,480
No.

1730
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:11,360
Caleb still gives me shif for like The Rise of Skywalker.

1731
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:14,360
I'm glad you caught that.

1732
01:42:14,360 --> 01:42:19,320
Yes, there are some things in that story that don't make too much sense, but everybody has

1733
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:25,840
memed the shit out of it so like, we get it.

1734
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:31,560
Star Wars is a great movie, but anyways.

1735
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:38,840
Moving on to costumes, we also unanimous, gosh damn it, unanimously agreed that it deserved

1736
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:40,020
an eight.

1737
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:44,960
This was like the most lazy eight I think I could have given this because I don't know,

1738
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:49,280
I was like, there was a fanny pack, I guess that's 80s, put an eight on it.

1739
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:50,280
I don't know.

1740
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,600
Like Wonder Woman's costumes look good.

1741
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:57,160
It's not like crazy hairstyles, or at least from what I saw, or at least as crazy as I

1742
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,760
thought they were going to be.

1743
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,800
Expected crazier.

1744
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,880
Yeah.

1745
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:09,840
The one, like the couple improvements that I really liked, I liked how they lightened

1746
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:10,840
up her armor.

1747
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:12,840
Yeah, it was a lot brighter.

1748
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:14,720
A lot brighter colors.

1749
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:22,720
I think it made it, like with the mall scene specifically, I think that her armor like

1750
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:23,720
freaking popped.

1751
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:24,720
Yeah, badass.

1752
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:29,480
And that's because Zack Schneider isn't directing this.

1753
01:43:29,480 --> 01:43:33,600
Because he likes everything to be dark and gray, he doesn't want you to think about

1754
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:38,520
sunlight, like he just wants everything to be so just monotone.

1755
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:41,160
If he could make his movies black and white, he would do it.

1756
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,200
Oh yeah, I'm sure he would.

1757
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:52,360
I know that I gave it shit when we first saw the trailer with her gold armor.

1758
01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:53,840
I actually really liked it.

1759
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:54,840
It's super cool.

1760
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:55,840
I did too.

1761
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:59,760
Even without the wings, it was really cool.

1762
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,600
I actually preferred it without the wings.

1763
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:04,560
I did too.

1764
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:08,240
When she like freaking threw off the wings, I know she did in the trailer, but that scene

1765
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:09,240
so badass.

1766
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,240
I loved it.

1767
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:17,680
Yeah, and I think I liked the final look of that armor that I liked.

1768
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:23,520
The way that that armor was that I liked the most was without the helmet and without the

1769
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:24,520
wings.

1770
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:25,520
Yeah.

1771
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,960
Now that person drives an invisible jet.

1772
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,240
That person right there.

1773
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,520
You wear a suit of gold.

1774
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:34,320
That's a golden jumpsuit is what you're wearing.

1775
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,960
I believe you'd fly an invisible jet.

1776
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:43,720
What's cool is that Gal Gadot actually, or Gal Gadot, what's her name?

1777
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:45,720
She actually kept that helmet.

1778
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:50,920
She very rarely keeps movie memorabilia, but she felt that she needed to keep that one.

1779
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,920
That's a big piece to keep.

1780
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:53,920
Yeah.

1781
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:58,200
Dude, I don't understand why she didn't keep the Wonder Woman armor.

1782
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:03,400
Oh, I bet she has like eight of those from like Batman vs Superman.

1783
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,080
Wait, what was that?

1784
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:12,320
I said I bet she has a few of those from Batman vs Superman or the original Wonder Woman.

1785
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,040
Yeah, probably.

1786
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:16,040
That's fair.

1787
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,760
She's probably like Chris Hemsworth with Thor hammers.

1788
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:22,080
Oh my gosh.

1789
01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:25,040
Chris Hemsworth has like a shit ton of them.

1790
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:26,680
Can you blame the guy though?

1791
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,680
Absolutely not.

1792
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:32,240
Yeah.

1793
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,200
So an eight is good.

1794
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,200
It's above average.

1795
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:37,640
It wasn't bad, that's the thing.

1796
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:38,640
It wasn't bad.

1797
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:39,640
I think that eighties.

1798
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:40,640
Yeah, exactly.

1799
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:47,960
I think the one that really stood out with her costumes was Kristen Wiig.

1800
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,000
That's true.

1801
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:52,640
Her freaking gym outfit was hilarious.

1802
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:53,640
Yes.

1803
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,200
And it was funny because that's what people actually used to wear.

1804
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:58,200
True.

1805
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:01,200
Did you guys catch that one big bulky guy in the back?

1806
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:02,640
I was just about to say that.

1807
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:06,680
Like how skin tight his tank top was.

1808
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,200
Like you know he wanted people to see his nipples.

1809
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:10,200
Yeah.

1810
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:11,800
Like come on.

1811
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,600
There's no doubt about that.

1812
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:21,480
I am also now remembering all of like the Gallup scenes that we had and Diana is in

1813
01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:28,400
these super really fancy hoity toity Gallup dresses and gowns and stuff and I was just

1814
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,480
like, oh yeah, that was really good too.

1815
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:32,760
Like all of that stuff.

1816
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:37,040
Yeah her white dress at that party looked amazing.

1817
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:38,040
Yeah.

1818
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:46,120
So, I'm now remembering why I gave this an eight.

1819
01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:51,920
I think we can all agree Gal Gadot some major eye candy through this movie.

1820
01:46:51,920 --> 01:46:54,120
Damn straight.

1821
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:58,040
I wasn't going to say this but I was going to say I bet that's why she doesn't have

1822
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,800
a Wonder Woman outfit at home because she knows that like her husband or whatever would

1823
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:06,440
make her wear it or like ask for it in extracurriculars.

1824
01:47:06,440 --> 01:47:08,920
So she's like, you know what, I'm bringing the helmet home.

1825
01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:11,320
There's nothing sexy about a helmet.

1826
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,360
For real though?

1827
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:16,160
He'd probably find a way to make it sexy.

1828
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,160
Let's face it.

1829
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,000
Dude, if I would.

1830
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:27,440
Gosh, like if I were in his situation and she didn't bring home a Wonder Woman outfit,

1831
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:31,080
I would cry.

1832
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:34,080
Gosh.

1833
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:42,560
Could you imagine like she comes home one day and he's like, she hears him scrambling

1834
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,440
and then she walks in the room, says like, what are you doing?

1835
01:47:45,440 --> 01:47:46,440
He's like nothing.

1836
01:47:46,440 --> 01:47:51,560
She turns the TV on with like a remote that she has and he's watching Wonder Woman.

1837
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:56,680
It's like, well, this is the best I can get.

1838
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,360
You won't bring your work home to me.

1839
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,360
Oh my Lord.

1840
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,360
I chose bedtime to swallow.

1841
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,360
Yeah, you did.

1842
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,360
Oh my gosh.

1843
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:13,360
Oh Jesus.

1844
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:19,760
And I bet the same happens for like other people too.

1845
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:24,320
Like I'm pretty sure Chris Evans has been asked to be like, hey, dude, where's your

1846
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:25,320
shield man?

1847
01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:30,280
I bet you that's been like euphemism for like if he has protection before.

1848
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,680
I bet you somebody has like used that for him.

1849
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:37,200
Oh my gosh.

1850
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,160
That's funny.

1851
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:47,800
Dude, one of my like this is I'll bring it up later.

1852
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:55,280
Before we finish up this breakdown, we have our personal grades and our personal grades

1853
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,200
averaged out to a 78.3.

1854
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:58,200
Oh wow.

1855
01:48:58,200 --> 01:48:59,200
That's not bad.

1856
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:05,520
So everyone want to share their final thoughts on this movie?

1857
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:08,200
Brooker would you like to go first?

1858
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:09,200
Okay.

1859
01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:13,520
So I know that we've had a lot of criticisms of this movie and this movie does have a lot

1860
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:14,520
of flaws with it.

1861
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:19,320
It's not a perfect movie, but at the end of the day, I had a lot of fun with it.

1862
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,800
I wasn't really bored throughout it.

1863
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:26,360
So I mean, and that's what the bare minimum I expect a movie to do is to just at least

1864
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,000
make sure it's fun and entertaining.

1865
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,880
So I give this like a high C grade, like a high 70.

1866
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,960
I went with a 77.

1867
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:39,000
And I don't think this movie deserves all of like the trash talk it's been getting,

1868
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,000
but if you don't like it, that's okay.

1869
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,920
It is absolutely way too long though.

1870
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:50,380
This needs to be cut down to 100 to 120 minutes max.

1871
01:49:50,380 --> 01:49:55,520
This has no business being two and a half hours, but I mean, it's like a really fine

1872
01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:56,720
C plus movie.

1873
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:01,160
So that's kind of my final say on it.

1874
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:02,720
Yeah.

1875
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:05,080
Rose?

1876
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:08,360
Brooker basically just said it all best.

1877
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:13,880
The first one is definitely a lot better, but I feel this was a decent follow-up.

1878
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:18,200
I feel Patty Jenkins had a lot to live up to from the first one.

1879
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:23,800
And unfortunately she didn't deliver on everything, but for the most part, like Brooker said,

1880
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:24,800
it's a fun movie.

1881
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,480
I had a really good time.

1882
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:28,320
I was never bored.

1883
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:31,480
Gal Gadot or is it Gadot or Gadot?

1884
01:50:31,480 --> 01:50:32,480
It's Gadot.

1885
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:33,480
Never.

1886
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:34,480
No, it's Gadot.

1887
01:50:34,480 --> 01:50:35,480
Okay.

1888
01:50:35,480 --> 01:50:38,040
Gal Gadot is once again amazing as Wonder Woman.

1889
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:39,960
I loved her.

1890
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,600
Everyone that came back is amazing.

1891
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,600
The new cast is really good.

1892
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:46,920
Yeah, overall, like I think it's a decent sequel.

1893
01:50:46,920 --> 01:50:49,840
And I believe I gave it a strong 80.

1894
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:55,560
So yeah.

1895
01:50:55,560 --> 01:51:03,000
This is, I think this movie would have been better well received had this come out before

1896
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,800
the first Wonder Woman.

1897
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:11,320
Because the first Wonder Woman, I think the stakes were like really high.

1898
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,860
It's just like the stakes were high in this.

1899
01:51:13,860 --> 01:51:15,960
It just didn't feel like it for some reason.

1900
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:16,960
It's very true.

1901
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,560
I can't put my finger on it.

1902
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:23,920
Would I, sorry, can I, can I just add one thing, Cale to your comment?

1903
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:29,360
I kind of look at this movie as what some people think Avengers Age of Ultron is to

1904
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:33,600
the first Avengers that you got such a great first film.

1905
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:38,280
And with the second one, you were expecting so much, but yet it wasn't able to deliver

1906
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:39,280
on everything.

1907
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,860
If anything, it tried to accomplish too much.

1908
01:51:42,860 --> 01:51:44,560
I can definitely agree with that.

1909
01:51:44,560 --> 01:51:52,960
It is definitely the Age of Ultron to the Avengers.

1910
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,800
That's a really good comparison.

1911
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,280
Yeah, it's good.

1912
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:07,340
It's a movie you could definitely poke a lot of holes in, but it doesn't detract from how

1913
01:52:07,340 --> 01:52:08,960
good of a movie it is.

1914
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,400
It is one that's entertaining.

1915
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:22,160
It's a good movie, even though critically speaking it's not the best.

1916
01:52:22,160 --> 01:52:27,080
It's not an A plus movie.

1917
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:36,280
But the score that it actually did get, so the final score for Wonder Woman 1984 is a

1918
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:37,280
C plus.

1919
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,000
I need to get a drum.

1920
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,280
That's not bad.

1921
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:44,280
I think that's pretty accurate.

1922
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,200
I think that's pretty fair for this.

1923
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,640
Yeah, I absolutely agree.

1924
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:52,800
Yeah, so it scored a 77.7%.

1925
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:57,160
Hey, that's not bad.

1926
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,200
That is not bad.

1927
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,760
So Brucker damn near hit it right on the head.

1928
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,760
Yeah, no kidding.

1929
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:06,760
The thing that kind of...

1930
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:07,760
I think...

1931
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:08,760
Oh, I'm sorry.

1932
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:09,760
No, you're good.

1933
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,640
Okay, so I have a question for you guys.

1934
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:18,320
The thing that kind of drove me nuts was just how much hate that this was getting online.

1935
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,720
It's okay if you don't like a movie, but I just didn't get how people were saying that

1936
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:23,240
this movie was garbage.

1937
01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:30,320
Did people forget about Suicide Squad and Batman versus Superman in Justice League?

1938
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:31,920
For real though.

1939
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,040
And I actually feel I'm one of the few that like Justice League actually.

1940
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:36,040
I like it too.

1941
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:41,280
Well, it's not that shitty Batman versus Superman and it was more fun.

1942
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:42,960
So whatever.

1943
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:48,920
But no, this is better than Justice League and it's not that awful of a sequel.

1944
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:49,920
So much better than Justice League.

1945
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:50,920
Yeah.

1946
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:51,920
Like scores better.

1947
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:52,920
Yeah.

1948
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:57,280
I would put this in line with Aquaman.

1949
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:59,440
I would actually put this above Aquaman for me.

1950
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:00,440
Who's that?

1951
01:54:00,440 --> 01:54:01,440
Sorry, guys.

1952
01:54:01,440 --> 01:54:06,200
Aquaman just like goes down for me.

1953
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,920
So here's my question for you two.

1954
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:15,080
Wonder Woman 1984, Suicide Squad and Batman versus Superman.

1955
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:20,000
How would you rank those three?

1956
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:22,680
Number one, Wonder Woman 84.

1957
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:26,160
Number two, Batman v Superman and then number three, Suicide Squad.

1958
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:27,160
That's the same.

1959
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:28,160
Same.

1960
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:29,160
Yeah.

1961
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:30,160
Okay.

1962
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,560
So like it's yeah, exactly.

1963
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,440
It's all breathe here.

1964
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:36,440
Yeah.

1965
01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:37,440
Christ.

1966
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:45,000
So comparing this movie to other C plus movies.

1967
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:49,560
So this everything that I'm about to list off is C plus.

1968
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:59,520
So this is point one percent lower than the babysitter killer queen.

1969
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:07,640
It is like since we were talking about Aquaman, it is point four percent higher than Aquaman.

1970
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:08,640
Yes.

1971
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:09,640
I'm happy.

1972
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:10,640
There you go.

1973
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:13,640
I also it's a I'm sorry.

1974
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:14,640
Go ahead.

1975
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:15,640
Sorry.

1976
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:16,640
No, no, you're on.

1977
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:17,640
Go ahead.

1978
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:18,640
Sorry.

1979
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,760
What was I going to say?

1980
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:27,320
So the other one that we had, it's which I think I forget who was hating on it.

1981
01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:28,920
I think it might have been you.

1982
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:35,160
It is two percent lower than Scott Pilgrim versus the world.

1983
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:36,720
Oof.

1984
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:38,320
Yeah.

1985
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:42,080
Point two percent lower than tag.

1986
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,120
I don't know.

1987
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:45,120
I don't know.

1988
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:46,120
We scored tag that high.

1989
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:47,120
Damn.

1990
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:48,120
Yeah.

1991
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:55,680
I watched tag on the airplane.

1992
01:55:55,680 --> 01:56:01,920
Let's see, point eight percent lower than the strangers prey at night.

1993
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:04,040
Wait, it's lower than that movie?

1994
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:05,280
No.

1995
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:06,280
Wonder Woman's higher.

1996
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:07,280
Oh, OK.

1997
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,800
I was going to say, OK, no, no, no, no, no.

1998
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:13,880
The strangers prey at night is seventy seven point one.

1999
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:16,120
Wonder Woman seventy seven point seven.

2000
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,120
Oh, OK.

2001
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:18,120
All right.

2002
01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:19,120
Pieces are stored.

2003
01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,720
Same with Boondock Saints.

2004
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:25,080
Boondock Saints is at seventy seven point one.

2005
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:26,080
OK.

2006
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:34,120
It's two percent lower than Jexy.

2007
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:35,120
OK.

2008
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:39,320
I still enjoy that.

2009
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:47,480
One percent lower than Jumanji the next level.

2010
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:51,480
Two percent lower than Aladdin the remake.

2011
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,240
So this was lower than Aladdin?

2012
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:55,240
Yeah.

2013
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,240
I agree with that.

2014
01:56:58,240 --> 01:56:59,240
Yeah.

2015
01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:01,240
Aladdin's seventy nine.

2016
01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:02,240
OK.

2017
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:05,240
Seventy seven, seventy nine.

2018
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,240
What's the difference?

2019
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:10,240
This might be one I disagree with.

2020
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:11,240
Yeah.

2021
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,240
I'm going to have to agree as well.

2022
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:17,240
This one I'm about to read is one I disagree with.

2023
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:18,240
OK.

2024
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:28,600
It is so Wonder Woman 1984 is higher than Spider-Man.

2025
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:29,600
The first Sam Raimi movie.

2026
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:30,600
Oh, yeah.

2027
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:32,600
I'm going to have to disagree with that one too.

2028
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:33,600
Yeah.

2029
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:36,920
I was about to say, because on Ryan Tomatoes, it has a audience score.

2030
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,440
Spider-Man has an audience score of sixty seven.

2031
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:44,480
Wonder Woman 84 has a down audience score of seventy four.

2032
01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:45,480
I mean, I know it's close.

2033
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:46,480
It's still enjoyable.

2034
01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:53,760
OK, so Spider-Man is seventy seven point five.

2035
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:56,520
And then Wonder Woman seventy seven point seven.

2036
01:57:56,520 --> 01:57:57,520
So it's point two.

2037
01:57:57,520 --> 01:57:58,520
Oh, shit.

2038
01:57:58,520 --> 01:57:59,520
It's a point two percent difference.

2039
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:00,920
But Wonder Woman is higher.

2040
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:01,920
OK.

2041
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:02,920
Damn.

2042
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:05,880
And what killed Spider-Man was the frickin writing.

2043
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,360
Dude, that's an airtight script.

2044
01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:09,360
I don't know what you're talking about.

2045
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:10,360
I'm just kidding.

2046
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:11,360
But yeah, that's.

2047
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:12,360
Dude, are you shitting me?

2048
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:13,360
I fucking love that Spider-Man movie.

2049
01:58:13,360 --> 01:58:18,200
Would you believe.

2050
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:20,960
So I don't know.

2051
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,960
Have you seen Tenet yet?

2052
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:25,520
No, not yet.

2053
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:26,520
OK.

2054
01:58:26,520 --> 01:58:30,480
Well, I just bought it on Blu-ray and I've watched it.

2055
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:32,200
It's it's it's good.

2056
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:35,320
It's very confusing, but give it a few watches.

2057
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:40,120
And it's it's I mean, it's a well produced and made movie.

2058
01:58:40,120 --> 01:58:43,400
And you know, it's a Chris Nolan movie on Ron Tomatoes.

2059
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:46,800
Tenet has a seventy six Wonder Woman seventy four.

2060
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:50,360
So like that's kind of like where it's still like scoring is in that range.

2061
01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:55,920
Like we think of our on Tomatoes C movie, Chris Nolan, Tenet movie still sliding in

2062
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:56,920
there.

2063
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:57,920
Yeah.

2064
01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:58,920
OK.

2065
01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:01,240
Quick question for you, Brooker.

2066
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:04,400
When you were watching it at home, did you have to have the subtitles on?

2067
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:05,400
Yes.

2068
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:06,800
I've heard it's very hard to hear it.

2069
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:07,800
OK.

2070
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:11,960
I think it's Chris Nolan movie just to start off with, because he for some reason, you

2071
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:16,400
know, fair enough, he for like we try to watch the prestige and like I was about to go like

2072
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:22,080
go deaf just because I could hear like the fucking doves like cooing.

2073
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:25,520
But I couldn't hear what Michael Caine had to say at all.

2074
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:30,360
Like, but yeah, no, you have to have subtitles on.

2075
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,480
It's just I failed you.

2076
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:34,880
Do what?

2077
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:38,080
The prestige is actually like my favorite movie.

2078
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:39,080
Oh, it's great.

2079
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:40,080
Yeah.

2080
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:41,080
Really?

2081
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,560
Chris for Nolan, just his sound mixing is just off.

2082
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,120
I don't get it.

2083
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:48,520
Yeah, it's not good.

2084
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,240
But I love the prestige.

2085
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:56,680
So whenever you do watch Tenet, watch it multiple times because it's a doozy.

2086
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:57,680
Got it.

2087
01:59:57,680 --> 01:59:58,680
OK.

2088
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:01,680
Good to know.

2089
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:05,040
All right, so C plus for Wonder Woman 1984.

2090
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:08,440
I think we can all agree that that is definitely well deserved.

2091
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,960
Yeah, absolutely.

2092
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:17,680
And that concludes this week's breakdown.

2093
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:21,760
Brucker would you like to promote everything that you want to promote?

2094
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:22,760
Yes.

2095
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:26,400
First off, thank you guys for having me on again.

2096
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:27,480
This was a lot of fun.

2097
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,760
It's always a joy to have you two on.

2098
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:33,520
And folks listening, if you all like these two hosts, I'm assuming you do because you're

2099
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:34,680
listening to their show.

2100
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:38,000
They have been on my show, Film on the Rocks to talk about Pirates of the Caribbean.

2101
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,480
So come and check that out.

2102
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,460
We had a lot of fun talking about that movie.

2103
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:46,680
We had a little Will Turner Orlando Bloom rose session.

2104
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:49,840
It was great.

2105
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:54,520
But I would like to plug this new show that I am currently working on, which is called

2106
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:56,080
Autopsy of a Horror Movie.

2107
02:00:56,080 --> 02:01:01,880
It's going to be me, Isco Solo podcast, which is me, but I will be doing analysis and interpretations

2108
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,680
of horror movies with other episodes.

2109
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,040
That would be more fun, just kill grades.

2110
02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:09,200
So I'm really looking forward to doing that.

2111
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:12,640
And that should be going on starting in February.

2112
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:16,760
But you can follow me on there at Brucker Horror on Instagram and Twitter.

2113
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:20,400
So thank you guys again for having me on and I hope to have you two on that show.

2114
02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:21,720
At least one of you.

2115
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:28,960
I know one of you isn't a horror fan, but it will be a lot of fun at that.

2116
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:33,520
I feel Caleb's grown into a horror fan since he's known me.

2117
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:34,760
I can appreciate it.

2118
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,080
I don't like being jump scared.

2119
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,040
I love that shit.

2120
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,800
To me, it's all about if it's done well.

2121
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:43,920
I don't care if it's done well.

2122
02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:44,920
I like it.

2123
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:49,040
So sad thing is like door slams still get me.

2124
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:55,960
The only time that I like the one time I did not throw a bitch fit about being jump scared

2125
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:58,720
was during The Invisible Man.

2126
02:01:58,720 --> 02:01:59,720
The new one.

2127
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:00,720
Oh, it's great.

2128
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:04,640
Like the whole paint from the.

2129
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:11,000
So the couple times that we got jump scared with that, I was like, I got like startled,

2130
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:12,000
got a little pissed off.

2131
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,040
And then I'm like, actually that was that was well deserved.

2132
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:17,280
Yeah, it was well earned.

2133
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:20,040
Yeah.

2134
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:23,960
But other ones like cheap ass frickin jump scares, I hate those.

2135
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:25,920
Do you hear paranormal activity?

2136
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:32,320
Yeah, I hate paranormal activity.

2137
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:36,600
Screw that movie, man.

2138
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:39,640
That movie is nothing but cheap jump scares.

2139
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:43,760
If so, Caleb, just because I feel like horror is important.

2140
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:49,000
If you want to get into it, but you're not really sure like, you know, what kind of movies

2141
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:51,280
you can trust or whatever.

2142
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,760
Honestly, watch the original.

2143
02:02:53,760 --> 02:02:58,040
If you're OK with black and white movies, watch the original Universal Monster movies

2144
02:02:58,040 --> 02:02:59,400
from the 30s and 40s.

2145
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:04,120
They are a total blast, especially like the original Invisible Man, since you just mentioned

2146
02:03:04,120 --> 02:03:09,200
that, because I think you'll be impressed by the effects that they have in it for 1932.

2147
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,000
And the dude's a fucking lunatic.

2148
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:12,880
He kills over 100 people in the movie.

2149
02:03:12,880 --> 02:03:15,200
Like it's it's really good.

2150
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:22,000
And I actually saw for everybody listening, YouTube is actually and this is legal, just

2151
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:27,000
so everyone knows, YouTube is uploading some of those classic monster movies for free on

2152
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:29,120
YouTube, including Frankenstein Dracula.

2153
02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:34,480
And I think the Invisible Man as well, they'll be available on YouTube mid to late January

2154
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,100
for free for people to watch.

2155
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:39,600
So watch those classic Universal Monster movies.

2156
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:41,200
They are just so much fun.

2157
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:43,200
I love them.

2158
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:44,200
That's awesome.

2159
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:45,200
Oh, hell yeah.

2160
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:48,000
Sorry, had to go a little rant there.

2161
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:49,000
My bad.

2162
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:52,800
I'm making a note of that right now.

2163
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:54,720
No, I really want Cale to check those out.

2164
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:56,880
So thanks for bringing that up, Berker.

2165
02:03:56,880 --> 02:04:02,440
And the Hammer films too, from like the 50s are just they're top notch, so much fun.

2166
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:07,400
Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, they're always like characters in those.

2167
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:08,400
It's great.

2168
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,400
Yep.

2169
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:19,440
Well, I will put links to all of Brucker's stuff in the in the show notes and social

2170
02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:22,720
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2171
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:26,520
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2173
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:31,240
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2174
02:04:31,240 --> 02:04:34,760
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2175
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,680
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2176
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:42,120
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2177
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:46,800
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2178
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,640
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2179
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:51,640
Yeah.

2180
02:04:51,640 --> 02:05:00,520
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2181
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:04,600
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2182
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,160
Because it's a question, whatever, however you want.

2183
02:05:07,160 --> 02:05:08,720
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2184
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:13,840
This is why his wife has to write the questions for him now.

2185
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:19,040
Oh, shit.

2186
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:22,000
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2187
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,160
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2188
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:30,320
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2189
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:35,160
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2190
02:05:35,160 --> 02:05:40,360
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2191
02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:45,320
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2192
02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:50,040
Again, all of the links will be in the description.

2193
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:53,040
Once again, thank you, Brooker, for joining us on this episode.

2194
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:54,680
It was an absolute blast.

2195
02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:55,680
It was.

2196
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:56,680
Thank you.

2197
02:05:56,680 --> 02:05:57,680
Thank you, Jonathan.

2198
02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:59,640
And Caleb is always so much fun whenever we collab.

2199
02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:00,640
Yeah.

2200
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:07,160
Well, I'll have to come up with some more movies to do later down the line.

2201
02:06:07,160 --> 02:06:10,840
If y'all need a shitty movie to watch, watch The Pale Door.

2202
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:12,200
It just got added to Shudder.

2203
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:14,360
It's a horror western and it sucks.

2204
02:06:14,360 --> 02:06:23,920
So if you want to get drunk and just make fun of a movie, there's that.

2205
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:29,200
Oh, we're adding that.

2206
02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:34,680
Well, I think that covers everything.

2207
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:41,200
So next week we will be breaking down Surf's Up.

2208
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:45,440
Is that a DreamWorks movie or is that Disney?

2209
02:06:45,440 --> 02:06:49,640
That is a, I think a Sony Pictures animation movie actually.

2210
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:51,880
Oh, so if it's a whatever.

2211
02:06:51,880 --> 02:06:56,360
So Surf's Up, the surfing penguins movie, we're going to be breaking that down next

2212
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:57,360
week.

2213
02:06:57,360 --> 02:07:02,000
So you guys can look forward to that.

2214
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:06,400
We're also going to be joined by some special guests on that episode.

2215
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:11,400
So yeah, we're just starting this year off strong with some guests.

2216
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:14,080
Yeah, no kidding.

2217
02:07:14,080 --> 02:07:15,080
Yeah.

2218
02:07:15,080 --> 02:07:19,840
But until next week, this has been the All Bros podcast.

2219
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:21,000
I'm Caleb.

2220
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:22,000
And I'm Jonathan.

2221
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:24,800
And we'll catch you guys next week.

2222
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:25,800
Deuces.

2223
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:26,800
So long.

2224
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:27,800
That felt bad.

2225
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:28,800
Was that bad?

2226
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:29,800
I mean, it wasn't your best.

2227
02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:30,800
Oh, damn.

2228
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:31,800
Way to tell it truthfully, bro.

2229
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:56,800
Thanks.