1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:26,440 What up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast, I'm Jonathan. 2 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,360 And I'm Caleb. 3 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,280 And we're a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but 4 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,600 also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life. 5 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:43,520 This week on the podcast we will be skipping over, wow I almost forgot the name, Funko 6 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:52,080 Focus, 4K Spotlight, as well as Through the Wall because we had the privilege of asking 7 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,160 the director of the movie that we will be breaking down on this episode some questions 8 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:03,360 and we are going to be reading those instead of going through all that. 9 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:09,600 So this review will be the first half, or sorry, this episode, I am already screwing 10 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,440 this up so badly. 11 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Come on man. 12 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Shut up. 13 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,760 So the first half of this episode will be us reading the questions that we asked her 14 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,720 as well as how she answered them and then the second half will be the breakdown of her 15 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,440 indie film which was entitled The Rocky Road to Freedom. 16 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Hell yeah. 17 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:38,000 We were going to interview her like our Question of the Week stated but she has been experiencing 18 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,560 some power outages today so wasn't able to make it happen. 19 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:51,560 And she is actually in London and there is a 7 hour time difference and it's kind of 20 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,880 difficult to line something up. 21 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,920 Yeah, just a little bit. 22 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:04,600 But anyway, Caleb, what do you say we get started? 23 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,200 I say let's do it. 24 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:19,080 Every day we are surrounded by media, books, movies, art, music, games, apps, podcasts, 25 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,560 etc. etc. 26 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:27,780 With this constant bombardment, it's easy to miss great media gems in the chaos. 27 00:02:27,780 --> 00:02:31,520 But fret not, you've come to the right place my friend. 28 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,960 I'm Jason and I love media. 29 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,360 I invite you to check out the Mixed Media Forest podcast, the podcast where I trudge 30 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:46,240 through the forests of media to find hidden gems for you, the listener. 31 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:54,000 Every episode of Mixed Media Forest is chock full of fun, reviews, nostalgia, positivity, 32 00:02:54,000 --> 00:03:01,240 news, rants, stories, and recommendations about all things media. 33 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:08,940 Again, that's the Mixed Media Forest podcast, created on 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00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,880 knew or did you hold auditions? 47 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,320 And she said, well, actually the cast changed halfway through. 48 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,160 The pre-production of the movie normally takes about half a year because I do it mainly 49 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,920 by myself in between college classes. 50 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,960 I had auditioned and got a cast together originally. 51 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,360 You can see them on the current poster on IMDB working on it. 52 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,760 I promise she put in parentheses. 53 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,040 But then when it came to two weeks before filming, our lead had to drop out due to health 54 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:27,480 issues and the other two main cast members either had to get jobs or moved to a different 55 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,480 country. 56 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Damn, that's that. 57 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 That is very unfortunate. 58 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Yeah, that might, that might be an issue. 59 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,280 Just, just a little bit. 60 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:41,800 So I quickly offered the role to the runners up, to the runners up. 61 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,880 I still couldn't find a lead actor though, who would commit to the shoot time. 62 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,840 I asked all the cast and crew to ask around and actresses who plays and the actress who 63 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:55,480 plays May found Zach three days before filming started. 64 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,840 He saved our butts and was a saint. 65 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:02,120 Dude, that's insane. 66 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Yeah, no, no kidding. 67 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:15,680 That is like, obviously we haven't put as much effort into a short film as she has. 68 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,720 Cause the only person that you've ever cast is your brother. 69 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,840 Yeah, honestly, no joke. 70 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,560 Brothers, cause I forgot we've had Bronson and a couple. 71 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Bronson and Coy. 72 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,560 That's true. 73 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,560 That is true. 74 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,720 The, the closest call, like what was the closest call we ever had? 75 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,840 Isn't it that heroes video that we made? 76 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:37,800 I think so. 77 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Yeah. 78 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:47,160 So it was, I, I'm not sure if we've ever talked about it on the, on the show before we, or 79 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:57,000 you had an assignment to make a commercial for a dance at our school, our senior year. 80 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:06,600 And you came to me on like Friday, like, I think it was like after lunch, you came and 81 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,800 we're just like, Oh, so I have this assignment due on Monday. 82 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:15,720 And I'm like, Oh, that sucks. 83 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,320 And you're just like, yeah, so we need to like shoot, record, shoot, like basically 84 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:33,640 do everything that's involved in a damn video and we have less than three days to do it. 85 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,000 I'm that kind of procrastinator or I was, I've gotten better. 86 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,640 You came, you came and you're just like, yeah, so I got this assignment due when I help. 87 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,200 And I'm like, yeah, sure. 88 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,720 Like thinking we had time and you're like, yeah, so it's due Monday. 89 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,600 And I'm like, well, shit Rose. 90 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,520 I'm like, so what's the commercial for? 91 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,360 And he's like, Oh, we have a dance coming up. 92 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,040 We need to make a commercial for the dance. 93 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,440 And I'm like, okay, well, what's the theme? 94 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,080 And it was like a hero's theme. 95 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,200 And I'm like, okay, I have a shit ton of superhero shirts at, at home. 96 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,600 We can probably make something work with that. 97 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,480 It was winter time, I think. 98 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,280 So or yeah, no, it was, was it? 99 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,280 Yeah. 100 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,960 Cause you were freezing your ass off. 101 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:20,680 Cause yeah, when you were, you were wearing the Batman shirt, you were wearing a long 102 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,160 sleeve under so you didn't freeze to death. 103 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,160 That's right. 104 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Yeah. 105 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Yeah. 106 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:33,240 So I just grabbed all the superhero shirts I could, and we just did like short little 107 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:40,680 scenes and I, and then you sent them to me and I edit them all added like all the special 108 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,180 effect, like it was insane. 109 00:07:43,180 --> 00:07:50,100 So I can only imagine how stressful it must be to make a full length movie and, and not 110 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:54,440 know who your lead is until like three days before. 111 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,660 Really quickly speaking of that whole situation with that video. 112 00:07:58,660 --> 00:08:05,960 So it was for my video production class, uh, cave TV, uh, for AF high school. 113 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,360 And the best part was, is that, so Caleb wasn't in the class. 114 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:15,760 It was just me, but after, uh, cause Caleb came with me to show the, uh, the teacher, 115 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,880 um, how it looked and you know, like to get his, uh, say of how it looked. 116 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:26,400 And right after he finished the, uh, video, he's just like, he looks to Caleb. 117 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:33,480 He's just like, who are you and why aren't you in my class? 118 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,840 And yeah, Caleb never joined cave TV though. 119 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,560 Hell no, cave TV was stupid. 120 00:08:39,560 --> 00:08:41,280 Hey, shut up. 121 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,200 It was, it was cool back. 122 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,600 No, no, I really wasn't that cool. 123 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Don't even like say that it was cool. 124 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,480 It was not cool. 125 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,440 I felt somewhat cool. 126 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,440 Yeah. 127 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:01,760 Well, the only thing that was like cool about it, I think was that he submitted that commercial. 128 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,240 Oh yeah. 129 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,440 Or at a film festival and we were actually runner up. 130 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Yeah. 131 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,080 But the thing that sucks is he only submitted it with my name. 132 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,640 He didn't put your name on it. 133 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,560 I don't give a shit. 134 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:16,120 We know who we made it together. 135 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,120 Yeah, true. 136 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,120 True, true. 137 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:24,560 But yeah, not bad for something like, I'm pretty sure like all the other submissions 138 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:29,080 fricking worked on theirs for weeks. 139 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,600 We did ours in three days. 140 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Yeah, we half-assed it, made it in three days and ended up almost winning. 141 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Yeah. 142 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,960 So I call that pretty impressive. 143 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 I call that impressive too. 144 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Anyway, let's see. 145 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Our next question was, what was your biggest hurdle making this film? 146 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:58,000 And she said it was originally supposed to be a musical with way more singing scenes 147 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,080 with the band. 148 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:04,920 But unfortunately, our composer, who was an amazing classical composer, but was not used 149 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,240 to writing rock songs at all. 150 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,480 So our songs were not very usable. 151 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,040 I made the actors sing them, but the actors were not happy about the outcome and we decided 152 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,240 to cut almost all of the singing out of the film. 153 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,400 Another hurdle, of course, was that we swapped DOP. 154 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Oh, um. 155 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 I don't know what DOP means. 156 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,400 What is it? 157 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Is it director of photography? 158 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,840 Ooh, that actually might be what it is. 159 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,160 So we swapped DOP and basically the whole crew mid-shoot. 160 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,520 Because my whole cast and crew, including myself, were working for credits, the DOP 161 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,120 and his AC, what the hell does AC mean? 162 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,120 Assistant? 163 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,120 No? 164 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,840 Uh, I should know all of these terms. 165 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,080 Yeah, what the hell, Rose? 166 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,680 No, it's not assistant crew member. 167 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:08,480 Uh, I, look, keep reading all of them. 168 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,480 I'm trying to figure it out. 169 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:21,280 Um, yeah, so they, yeah, so the DOP and his AC as well as sound had to leave mid-shoot 170 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,440 to get paid work as it came up. 171 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:30,240 The team headed by Aaron Wakely did an amazing job picking up where the previous team left 172 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,240 off. 173 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,080 That was great fun. 174 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,680 Oh my gosh, that would suck. 175 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,960 Okay, so I was right. 176 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:47,640 It is director of photography and then AC is assistant camera. 177 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Assistant camera? 178 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:49,640 Yeah. 179 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,640 Okay. 180 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:57,920 So she lost her director of photography, her camera, like, over someone helping with the 181 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,680 camera and their sound guy. 182 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:07,280 So camera assistant is kind of like, you know how usually the director is the one that is 183 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,260 at the camera chair and, you know, like is looking, making sure that everything is getting 184 00:12:11,260 --> 00:12:12,760 filmed what they want? 185 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:13,760 Right. 186 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,160 So the assist, they usually call them first assistant camera, is the person that's in 187 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,280 charge of like taking off the lens, changing like the shutter speed or like whatever needs 188 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,900 to be changed on the camera. 189 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:28,200 So the only thing that the director has to worry about is looking through that lens and 190 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:34,160 making sure that everything is going right on screen the way that they want it to. 191 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,160 Hmm. 192 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Yeah. 193 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,160 All right. 194 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Yeah. 195 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,680 That's, that's just a huge fricking hurdle. 196 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:44,680 Like you, you have to- 197 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,060 Yeah, I'm so sorry. 198 00:12:46,060 --> 00:12:50,500 You have to get a whole new team in. 199 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:56,360 And like, it's just luckily like, so we've already done the breakdown for this movie 200 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:04,060 because we were going to do this, this interview later, but I don't think we addressed it, 201 00:13:04,060 --> 00:13:11,860 but knowing this, the, uh, everything, like there was not very many, or I, I can't think 202 00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:16,840 of any off the top of my head, there weren't any shots that looked different from others 203 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,920 other than maybe the, the singing scene, where it was like more music video-esque. 204 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Yeah. 205 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:28,240 No, but other than that, um, it looks like it all just flowed together quite well. 206 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,500 Yeah. 207 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:33,960 So it's something that you can barely notice. 208 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Um, when it comes to sound on the other hand, we, we get into that, but oh my. 209 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:47,600 Gosh, that would just be not fun. 210 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:55,560 And then seeing how this was supposed to be like, I could actually see having seen the 211 00:13:55,560 --> 00:14:02,700 movie already, like I can see how this could have been a musical. 212 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:07,520 I want to see the director's cut of this as the musical. 213 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,320 That's just because I'm a sucker for a musical. 214 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,920 I freaking love musicals to death. 215 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Yeah. 216 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,920 You're absolutely a sucker for musicals. 217 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Um, but yeah, I, I can also see like being an actor, not wanting to sing all the songs, 218 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,400 especially if you're not like trained to, I don't think that'd be super fun. 219 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:41,680 It's like, yeah, we got to discuss our, my salary cause I need to be paid more if I'm 220 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,680 doing this. 221 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:43,680 Yeah. 222 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Well, she said everyone was doing it for credits. 223 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:52,240 That's the, that's the reason the, uh, DOP and his assistant camera left is because they 224 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,240 went to go do paid work. 225 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,160 I mean, so that kind of sucks. 226 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,160 Yeah. 227 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,160 Seriously though. 228 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,160 I'm so sorry. 229 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Yeah. 230 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:07,080 Um, all right. 231 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:12,760 Next question we asked her was, was the final product, what you envisioned when you first 232 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,760 started? 233 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Did anything change at all? 234 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,420 And she said, none of my movies come out as I envision, uh, but that is mainly due to 235 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:23,280 complete lack of funding. 236 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Fair enough. 237 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:31,080 Like I understand that on a spiritual level. 238 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,800 We they usually come out better than envisioned though. 239 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:35,800 Okay. 240 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,800 That's awesome. 241 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,800 Um, so I can't complain. 242 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:43,680 Andy Lowe, Andy Lowe, who was the amazing DOP for the first half of the shoot shot the 243 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,540 dream sequences over three days. 244 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:49,960 And that came out so much better than I had even hoped. 245 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,600 I had a vague idea about lights, et cetera, but he and Andrew turned up with enough led 246 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,280 lights to decorate Christmas and make a really good show. 247 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Oh, absolutely. 248 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,080 Those dream sequences were really well done. 249 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,080 Yeah. 250 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,080 Those were awesome. 251 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,480 Excellent lighting work. 252 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,800 But spoiler alerts for a breakdown. 253 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,800 Sorry. 254 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,800 Whoopsie. 255 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Now I don't think we got too much into it, but yeah, it, it's nice though that they turn 256 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,400 out better than you think that they're going to. 257 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Yeah, that is always nice. 258 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Yeah. 259 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,760 I don't think we've ever had something come out where we're like, oh yeah, this is like 260 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,960 an actual masterpiece. 261 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:48,320 So like we've just been like, well, it's done. 262 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,120 We made the due date. 263 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,320 So it's all that matters. 264 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Yeah. 265 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,040 That's the majority of how all of our projects go. 266 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,040 Yep. 267 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,400 Like just short of this podcast, like this podcast is a week by week thing. 268 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,120 We record on Thursdays. 269 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:12,320 I edit on Fridays or Saturdays and then we release Mondays. 270 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:21,200 So I have a decent chunk of time to work on stuff, but yeah, I, yeah, but like this is 271 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,760 something that I'm proud of that we make, but it's easier to make than a fricking movie 272 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,760 Oh yeah, definitely. 273 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,880 But when it's come to like all of the filming and directions and all of this other different 274 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,520 stuff, these different aspects, like nothing that we've come out was like exactly how we 275 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,240 envisioned it. 276 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,000 And none of it came out where I was like, huh, that was better than we planned. 277 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:50,920 Cause honestly, the movie, um, what we should like put like a link to it on Instagram or 278 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,320 something that I'm getting. 279 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,320 No, we should not. 280 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,320 Why not? 281 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,320 Come on. 282 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Why not? 283 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,480 You know damn well why not just go watch it again. 284 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Yeah. 285 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:01,480 Okay. 286 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,160 Um, but literally the short film we made, I'm getting there completely made up on the 287 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,520 spot like nothing had been written. 288 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,760 At least I'm pretty sure nothing had been written before, right? 289 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,760 Nope. 290 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Yeah. 291 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Not a single thing. 292 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,760 Yep. 293 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,160 Everything was made up on the spot. 294 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,440 So do with that what you will. 295 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,880 If you do decide to go watch it. 296 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,880 Yeah. 297 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:34,640 Um, so our next question was how long did it take you to write and shoot the film? 298 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Uh, and she said, my shooting is usually three and a bit weeks solid shooting with one day 299 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,000 off a week. 300 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,480 Um, I shoot during summer holidays for convenience writing a movie. 301 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,760 I write on and off throughout the year beforehand while I'm in classes. 302 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,000 If forced, I can write a script in two months, I think. 303 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,040 But rocky road had a whole bunch of revisions. 304 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,040 So that took most of the year. 305 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,040 You never really think about how long that side of it takes. 306 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,040 You don't. 307 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:16,360 Like, like you kind of forget all like the, the little things that go into it. 308 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:21,440 Like shooting, shooting takes a really long time. 309 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Yeah. 310 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,200 But like, how long did we shoot? 311 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:30,120 We shot for like three days for something that was barely a few minutes long. 312 00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:31,120 Yep. 313 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:32,120 Yeah. 314 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,120 Like that's insane. 315 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:34,120 Yeah. 316 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:35,480 When you think about it. 317 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,920 It really is. 318 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:44,280 And then let alone writing, like taking a full year to write. 319 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,200 I'm a felon, like it makes sense. 320 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:52,600 I mean, I, the stuff that I've tried writing, it's just like takes forever. 321 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:59,800 All I can say is I got props to like all script writers out there. 322 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:06,320 Y'all have like such a, such a hard job and I applaud you. 323 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,160 Yeah. 324 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,360 His writing is a very important part to movies. 325 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:16,680 And that's why we use or we take writing into consideration when we grade movies. 326 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,280 So, well done. 327 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Everyone that writes. 328 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Yes. 329 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,320 Except for if you wrote Vampire Suck, then you suck. 330 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Yeah. 331 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:35,720 I just want to put that out there. 332 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,120 All right. 333 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:38,520 Next question. 334 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,480 What is your biggest goal as a filmmaker? 335 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,520 To make people's life a little bit more silly and hopefully make a living from it. 336 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,440 It's what we all want. 337 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,840 Yeah, we feel you. 338 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,120 I don't really have a grandiose goal. 339 00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:59,680 When I was four, I told my mom I was going to make films and it kind of escalated from 340 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,680 there. 341 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,040 A really worthy goal. 342 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:10,080 I don't even remember when the first time I was like, I started thinking, I actually, 343 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,560 I don't think it was until maybe after high school that I started thinking about film 344 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,280 or maybe not even necessarily film, just like videos. 345 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Really? 346 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,800 It wasn't while we were in high school? 347 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,080 When I was in senior year? 348 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,080 Not really. 349 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Like it was always something that like I enjoyed doing. 350 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:38,160 Like I enjoyed the challenge of making something look good and telling like a story. 351 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:44,920 But it was never something that I considered as a career or even pursuing until after. 352 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:51,040 It's like sometime before this. 353 00:21:51,040 --> 00:22:00,240 As of right now, woodworking is like my passion that I feel like I could make money to. 354 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:07,520 I can make enough money to support my family, but also have the freedom to pursue the video 355 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:16,160 creation and eventual filmmaking that we're wanting to do. 356 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Obviously I have to get multiple things up to a certain point to do that. 357 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:31,240 I never really considered it as a career option until either like right before or a little 358 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,240 after graduation. 359 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Okay. 360 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Nice. 361 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,680 What about you? 362 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:42,160 When did you start wanting to do? 363 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:48,600 Honestly it was probably senior year when I did do Cape TV because like honestly before 364 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,160 then I had no idea what I was going to study in college. 365 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,280 My major was so undecided. 366 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:05,200 But after taking that class, seeing that I loved filmmaking, just everything that goes 367 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,680 into it, I decided you know what? 368 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,680 I would love to be able to do that for a career and get paid for that. 369 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:14,680 So yeah. 370 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,840 I think it'd be really cool to get paid as critics too. 371 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,840 Oh hell yeah. 372 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,840 That'd be dope. 373 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,840 Yeah that'd be super cool. 374 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Wink wink wink. 375 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Just throwing that out there. 376 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:40,040 If anyone wants to pay us as critics, we're here. 377 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,640 It's just a subtle nudge. 378 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,640 That's all this is. 379 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,640 It's just a subtle nudge. 380 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,640 Yeah. 381 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,920 Alright let's see. 382 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,600 Our next question was... 383 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,840 Oh wait is it your turn for questions or is it mine? 384 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,840 No it's yours. 385 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,840 Okay cool. 386 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:03,800 So the next one is what are your favorite types of stories to tell? 387 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,680 She said funny silly ones. 388 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,680 So many movies now take themselves so seriously. 389 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,560 I'm just a filmmaker who's just learning the craft. 390 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960 I got no money at all. 391 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,800 Or I got no money and all of my cast are only turning up for experience and credits. 392 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,280 I don't yet have the skills to even try Gone with the Wind. 393 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,480 So I stick to comedy. 394 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:32,640 And I like to sit down and watch silly puffy little movies that make you feel like life 395 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,720 isn't so bad really. 396 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Stories like Belleville Rendezvous and Therapy for a Vampire or Wild Target. 397 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,840 That was difficult. 398 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Are you okay? 399 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,840 I don't know. 400 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,640 She said a lot of big words. 401 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,320 Oh man. 402 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,360 I was able to make it out in my head. 403 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:14,040 I just couldn't say it for some reason. 404 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:21,200 Oh my goodness I love it. 405 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:26,840 Yeah apparently we need to start reading with Caleb or confuse Caleb with big words. 406 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:27,840 Apparently. 407 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Oh that's what it was. 408 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:37,080 So I thought when she said Therapy for a Vampire I thought James Corden was in the movie actually. 409 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:43,400 But no it was Lesbian Vampire Killers that he was in. 410 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,200 Uh oh. 411 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Yeah I don't think I've seen any of these movies so I know what I'm adding to my list. 412 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,640 Same here. 413 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,600 Alright so the next question we asked was what kind of films should we expect to see 414 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,040 from you in the future? 415 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:15,400 She said well I got as of right now around 12 scripts written-ish and 3 more in the process. 416 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:21,240 I'm currently working on a series of 6 fantasy comedy features called The Greenlands. 417 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,500 They have a dramatic podcast that goes with them and I'm currently working with some other 418 00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:29,640 people on a series of period drama movies. 419 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:36,200 But that second project is very much in the works still. 420 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:43,440 I'm sticking to making silly ridiculous movies and The Greenlands is definitely that. 421 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Love it. 422 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:53,480 One thing after this whole getting reached out and being asked to break down a movie 423 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,880 like this and actually seeing it. 424 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:03,040 Like all of our directors that we've been reached out from I want to see more of what 425 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,520 you guys got. 426 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,600 Yeah same here. 427 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:15,320 Like I'm keeping a close eye on you guys' career and so I'm super excited for everything 428 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,480 that's going to come out. 429 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,840 So nice to know we have 12 movies in our future. 430 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Looking forward to it. 431 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,440 Hopefully after this breakdown you don't hate us and want us to review them. 432 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Because that would be real cool. 433 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,080 That would be super cool. 434 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:41,000 I mean do we sound like complete losers? 435 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 We do. 436 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,000 In that but. 437 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,000 Yeah. 438 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,000 So can you hear the desperation in our voice? 439 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Oh shit. 440 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:03,880 Alright next up we got a or we posted a question of the week just asking if you guys had any 441 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:13,920 questions for Rose and about her movie or just about her in general or whatever. 442 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:21,000 And we got one response, two questions but they're both from the untrained eye over on 443 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 Twitter at untrained iPod. 444 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,440 And I think that's on Twitter and Instagram. 445 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:34,080 But they asked if you could remake any movie what would it be and who would play the main 446 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,760 characters? 447 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160 And she said oof tough one. 448 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,420 So many movies have been massacred especially the adaptations of books. 449 00:28:43,420 --> 00:28:44,840 So many have fallen. 450 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,840 The one that pops to mind fastest is cats. 451 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:57,560 I would have remade cats and cast everyone entirely either as normal people or really 452 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,400 well trained cats. 453 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:08,840 That's where literally half the budget is going to go. 454 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,280 Training the cats. 455 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Yeah. 456 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,200 Could you say worth it? 457 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,760 Oh yeah that would be absolutely worth it. 458 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,120 That would literally be the best adaptation I've ever seen. 459 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:30,160 I would watch it and I would help fund that if I could. 460 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,000 And I would have shot it with the same intensity as those really old bad Bollywood dramas. 461 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Dude why isn't this a thing? 462 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,160 For real though. 463 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,240 This is better than the version we got. 464 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Oh my gosh right? 465 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,140 Let's see. 466 00:29:48,140 --> 00:29:56,000 Really bad Bollywood dramas where they do like 50 extreme fast close up zoom in. 467 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Yes! 468 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,840 Reaction shots for everything. 469 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Rose you are speaking my language. 470 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,560 We got a rose connection going here. 471 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Yes. 472 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:18,600 I want everything you just said and so much more. 473 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,800 Alright and the final question that we asked. 474 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,560 I don't know if Caleb asked this or did someone actually ask this on? 475 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,000 No this was Untrained Eye again. 476 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,560 Oh this was Untrained Eye that actually said this? 477 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,040 This was their second one. 478 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,280 Oh I didn't know that they actually asked this. 479 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:42,680 So Untrained Eye also asked will you give the All Bros a walk on roll in your next movie? 480 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,080 And Rose said if you can get your amazing selves to marry England and avoid being arrested 481 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,400 and thrown in quarantine sure. 482 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,400 Bet. 483 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,400 Freaking challenge. 484 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,400 That's all I needed to hear. 485 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:01,920 Challenge accepted. 486 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,160 I mean hell we've rebelled from the English before. 487 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,760 True that. 488 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,880 I mean not us personally just our country. 489 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,080 I was going to say where the hell was I? 490 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,080 We're law abiding citizens. 491 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,080 No we're law abiding citizens. 492 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,960 I'm talking about Americans. 493 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,080 Oh shit. 494 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Yeah like that would be like the headline. 495 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,040 Americans do American shit. 496 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,080 Oh man. 497 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,680 Alright. 498 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Caleb. 499 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,400 Well thank you. 500 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,400 Yes hold on. 501 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,400 Sorry. 502 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:47,680 So thank you Untrained Eye for asking the questions and thank you also Rose for taking 503 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,640 the time to answer these questions. 504 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,640 Yes thank you. 505 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Thank you very much. 506 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,600 But Caleb unless you have anything else you would like to say about the interview that 507 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,120 we had. 508 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,440 One second I think she might have sent us some links. 509 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:17,680 So I'm going to put everything in the video description but she says that the if you want 510 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:30,480 to check out her website it is rosegoldthorpe.com. 511 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:38,280 If you want to buy this movie the rocky road or the rocky road of freedom. 512 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,560 I've seen it both ways. 513 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,960 I'm not sure if it's the rocky road or. 514 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,240 We're just going to call it the rocky road. 515 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:50,200 If you want to buy it and find out more info for current projects you can go follow her 516 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,720 on Instagram at the underscore Greenlands. 517 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,800 And that's on her or that's her fantasy podcast and project. 518 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,940 Unfortunately the Greenlands movie is on hold until they take away lockdown in this country. 519 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:10,400 So that's fair. 520 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,200 Everyone pray for merry old England. 521 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280 So we can get the Greenlands. 522 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,400 And also subscribe to everything that she does. 523 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,440 So like I said we'll put the links and everything that you need to know in the video description 524 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,120 or in the podcast description. 525 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 And some description. 526 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,920 I'm having difficulties today. 527 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,160 Just a little bit. 528 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Just a little bit. 529 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,080 But it's going to be fun. 530 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,720 Alright so since we've talked so much about this movie Caleb what do you say we finally 531 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,720 break it down. 532 00:33:47,720 --> 00:34:13,800 I say let's do it. 533 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:19,800 Alright so with this week's headliner we'll be breaking down an indie film called the 534 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,680 Rocky Mountain Road. 535 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:29,240 Caleb was there a subtitle for this or was it just the Rocky Mountain Road. 536 00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:30,680 This is the Rocky Road. 537 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,680 Oh it's the. 538 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:39,160 Oh my gosh. 539 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,960 Isn't Rocky Mountain Road a song? 540 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:53,120 I goofed really badly. 541 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,520 Wow. 542 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,200 Oh shit. 543 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,200 Wow. 544 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,200 Okay. 545 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:08,200 Yeah this is called the Rocky Road to Freedom. 546 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,200 That's what it is. 547 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,200 Thank you. 548 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,960 The Rocky Road to Freedom. 549 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,400 The Rocky Mountain Road. 550 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,400 Wow. 551 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Maybe it wasn't the best idea to have me take control of this episode. 552 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,440 Probably not. 553 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,440 Anyway. 554 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,440 Anyway. 555 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,560 But it's entertaining. 556 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Shut up. 557 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:43,000 So like we said this week's headliner will not be the Rocky Mountain Road but the Rocky 558 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,600 Road. 559 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,080 The Rocky Road Road to Freedom right? 560 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,000 The Rocky Road to Freedom. 561 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,880 Oh the Rocky Road to Freedom. 562 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,280 Gosh damn it. 563 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,760 Wow okay anyway. 564 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:04,440 Caleb before I put my foot in my mouth anymore do you want to explain how we break down movies 565 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,640 on this podcast? 566 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,340 I would love to. 567 00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:16,400 So if you are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different 568 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:25,280 categories that we individually grade to come to a final all bros letter grade. 569 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,000 And it's like a schoolhouse letter grade. 570 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:36,640 The eight categories that we grade are story, writing, acting, character development, effects, 571 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,920 music, costumes and then we give it our own personal grade. 572 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:52,120 All of the scores that we are about to list off we have talked about and discussed and 573 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,340 whatever previously. 574 00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:58,640 So we have all of the scores the only one that we are changing things up a tiny little 575 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,320 bit just so it's more of a surprise for us too. 576 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,380 We have not discussed our own personal grade yet. 577 00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:15,760 So we will discuss that at the end and then we will have our final score at the end. 578 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:24,480 We are starting to do that because then I would see the final score for the movie and 579 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:32,320 usually the personal grade it bumps up the average by like depending on the difference 580 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,400 in everything. 581 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:43,000 It could bump it up a letter or by I don't even know what you call that by half a point. 582 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:49,440 Not half a point it could bump it up a couple percent it could lower it a couple percent. 583 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:58,720 It's just the personal grade is just the final piece of the pie and it can like I have a 584 00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:02,160 general idea of what the score is going to be. 585 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,400 It's just I want to be surprised as well when the final grade comes. 586 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,520 So I probably over explain that like no man's business but whatever. 587 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,200 You kind of did but we still love you. 588 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:28,460 So starting off with story we are in an odd predicament because we do not have a synopsis 589 00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:30,600 for this movie. 590 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,520 And we made the wrong decision of not reaching out to the director and asking for her to 591 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,800 give us a synopsis of her film. 592 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,400 Before recording of course. 593 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,320 So oops. 594 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,960 So we are going to have to come up with one on the fly or Rose is going to have to come 595 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,960 up with one on the fly. 596 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,960 Like hell. 597 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,560 What do you mean like hell? 598 00:38:54,560 --> 00:39:03,640 Hey this is just reading with Rose this ain't no making up shit as I go along with Rose. 599 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,720 New segment everyone making shit up with Rose. 600 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:15,680 That's the definition of my life right there. 601 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,360 Straight up. 602 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640 Okay so I'll try my best. 603 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,760 Caleb do you have the list of characters pulled up? 604 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,680 I sure do. 605 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,000 Okay one second let me pull them up. 606 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Alright can you see? 607 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,600 Yes I can. 608 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,440 Alright so here we go. 609 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,800 Bear with me please guys. 610 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:53,360 So Gabriel is a kind of down on his luck musician that is just working at a dead end job. 611 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,760 Not a fan of it. 612 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,040 His boss is kind of an ass. 613 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,040 I'm not going to lie. 614 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,040 Yeah he's a prick. 615 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:10,160 And so you can tell he doesn't really care because he will wait. 616 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:16,360 Well okay it seems like he wakes up on time but he's usually late for it. 617 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,720 Which you know what when you hate a job can't say I blame you man. 618 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:26,640 And then his buddy Tom, that's his best friend right? 619 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,080 Is it his best friend or just a worker? 620 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,960 I'm assuming so. 621 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,600 I'm assuming it's yeah. 622 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,880 So, so uh oh my gosh. 623 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:46,080 So Gabriel and Tom decide, I don't know if this was all along, they decide to form a 624 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,120 band or no like haven't they been practicing music for a little bit but then they finally 625 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,560 decide to like really get it to take off? 626 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,600 They try to decide to like really push themselves? 627 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,600 Yes. 628 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:05,680 So, yeah so they decide to like really get a band going and so Gabriel meets this girl 629 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,120 named Caleb shit what do you remember her name? 630 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,120 May. 631 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,120 May. 632 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,120 Can you not see it? 633 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:21,440 It's very blurry and you know that my eyesight sucks. 634 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:29,400 So Gabriel meets up with this girl named May who is also a musician, she is a pianist and 635 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:36,880 she is trying to get her name out there as well and so he asks her to join the band and 636 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:45,520 so it becomes Gabriel, May, Tom, what is, oh yeah that was, oh yeah their drummer's 637 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:54,240 name Fuzzy and so they you know they start practicing, they make a music video, it doesn't 638 00:41:54,240 --> 00:42:07,920 go that well and so they try their hand at it again and after getting like good equipment, 639 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:14,240 an actual recording studio, just like all the necessities that you would need to actually 640 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:22,200 make a decent music video, they're able to get that fully put together, it's a decent 641 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:30,360 hit, they are contacted by a music producer, they, well actually wait no I'm sorry first 642 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:39,360 before that, I'm sorry I'm skipping around here, they get a gig at a local, it wasn't 643 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,120 a bar right Caleb? 644 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:49,040 It was a, it is a bar but the Brits call it a pub. 645 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,800 That's what it is thank you. 646 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:56,480 So they get a gig at a pub, I just think pub sounds better anyway, like I would much rather 647 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,360 call a bar a pub, maybe that's just me. 648 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:06,320 But anyway, so they get a gig at a pub nearby in town and I believe that they're able to 649 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,560 perform two songs right? 650 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,360 It's not just one? 651 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:20,760 Yes from what I understood, each band was allowed to play two songs. 652 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,040 Oh yeah that's what I understood as well. 653 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:31,680 So yeah so they perform their two songs, it goes super super well to where after their 654 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:38,200 performance a music producer comes up to them, talks to them and says hey you know we love 655 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,120 you guys, you guys are great, we want to sign you. 656 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,360 They're given contracts but there's a little bit of an altercation between Gabriel and 657 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:58,000 May and just it kind of prolongs the contracts getting signed but they eventually do and 658 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,760 then they become this big, I don't really know how to explain, I don't really know how 659 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:13,680 to go about the ending, they do become a huge band and tour the world and all is well and 660 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:21,000 what's fun, so I can still spoil the whole movie right? 661 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:28,720 Yeah oh shit, we forgot, spoiler alert. 662 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:34,520 I mean technically we haven't really spoiled a lot of big plot points of this film but 663 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,560 I'm going to spoil the biggest plot point, at least to me, that the director Rose has 664 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,400 in this movie and it's throughout the movie you can tell that Gabriel does have a slight 665 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:50,120 crush on May and towards the end you know like he decides to finally get the push to 666 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:57,960 you know like talk to her, try to ask her out but then at the end it is discovered that 667 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:08,360 her father who left when she was a child that left her mother being an asshole like that 668 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:15,560 is the exact same father that left Gabriel and his mom so they're a long lost brother 669 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:21,040 and sister. 670 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:25,840 That honestly, that was quite a shock, I appreciate that Rose, that was actually a shock, I appreciate 671 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:33,560 that Rose, that was actually a decent plot twist, I did not see that coming and so I 672 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:40,280 did actually appreciate that and the way that it was handled was actually pretty funny with 673 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:45,600 how like the moms are like oh my gosh I always wanted a daughter and May's just like I don't 674 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,040 think that's how this works or like that's not exactly how this works and she just starts 675 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:55,960 like hugging her and it's pretty funny but like Gabriel's just like sitting in the corner, 676 00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:06,320 he's just like oh my gosh this could have been so awkward and so yeah but so that is 677 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:17,000 the best I can do with subbing or summarizing up the plot of the rocky road to freedom. 678 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,720 Yeah I think you did a really good job. 679 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:22,720 Yes! 680 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:36,440 Yeah so unfortunately, so this is like an issue so the first so we'll get right into 681 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:48,000 it we scored the story at 50 and the issues I feel that we had with the story weren't 682 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,040 necessarily within the story itself. 683 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,040 No because the story. 684 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,800 Because I think the story like how you explained it, there's a good story there. 685 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,800 There honestly is. 686 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,620 I just don't think it was. 687 00:47:00,620 --> 00:47:02,560 My biggest problem that I have with the story. 688 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,200 Oh sorry go ahead. 689 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,200 No go you go. 690 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,280 No I was telling Caleb about this after we had both finished it and like he said the 691 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:15,640 story is actually really good but it's just I feel like it jumped so fast from plot point 692 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:21,260 to plot point that it took me a little bit or like I wasn't able to like kind of like 693 00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:26,540 catch my breath and be like okay so that plot point's over now let's move on to this next 694 00:47:26,540 --> 00:47:27,540 one. 695 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:31,000 It was kind of like okay I gotta take like the quickest breath that I can take and so 696 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,680 we can jump into this next one and it was just beat after beat after beat and I was 697 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:40,640 like okay this is a little too fast for me. 698 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:47,960 Right yeah it is very quickly paced and you can definitely there was a couple times I 699 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,960 had to rewind because I. 700 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,880 There's a lot you can miss. 701 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,200 Yeah there's a lot you can miss. 702 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,960 Like I'm trying to think of like one example so one that I can actually think of off the 703 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:09,040 top of my head without giving it too much thought is when Gabriel decides that he wants 704 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:18,040 to start the band because he sees May playing piano in some park or out in the open. 705 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,040 That's a nice ass park by the way. 706 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,520 And so he wants to get this going. 707 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,520 Yeah right. 708 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,520 Excellent shooting location. 709 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,480 Freaking nothing like we have. 710 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,680 Yeah their shooting locations were amazing. 711 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,680 Seriously. 712 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,000 That's something I put in effects. 713 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,280 I did as well. 714 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,400 I did as well. 715 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:42,320 So okay so later on like so he decides he wants to start a band because he wants to 716 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:51,720 get to know her more or less and he goes gets a guitar and then it's like suddenly he goes 717 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,880 to her and is like hey we have a band. 718 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,040 Or actually he actually doesn't even do that. 719 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,640 He actually sees her playing and then goes and is like hey do you want to join our band? 720 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:08,880 And then she says yes and then it's like maybe a cut or two later they're in his house or 721 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,400 garage practicing. 722 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,400 Yeah. 723 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,080 It's like boy that escalated quickly. 724 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,720 It was just so fast. 725 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:26,800 And then later in the movie there is like a conflict with the like what you were saying 726 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:34,680 the contract getting signed but it's because it was revealed that May is a sex worker. 727 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,920 Yes. 728 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:46,560 And that there was like a little bit of an opening with including May kind of showing 729 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:53,120 Gabriel and May's mornings and really they don't address that she's a prostitute that 730 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,120 well. 731 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,320 I mean they say that they have a client and that there's like a really difficult client 732 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:08,920 that May is dealing with but then it's just never discussed for the rest of the movie 733 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,720 until like the 45 minute mark and the movie is about an hour long. 734 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:14,720 Yeah. 735 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:22,240 So 45 minutes in I actually it was like 48 minutes in then they have like this conflict 736 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:31,680 with the contract and the her being a prostitute. 737 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:41,400 And so it came very very fast and the way that it was revealed was also kind of odd. 738 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:48,280 Because Gabriel and the rest of the band are out celebrating that they got this contract 739 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:55,240 and so they go to a pub they get freaking wasted and they start like walking back home 740 00:50:55,240 --> 00:51:00,280 or just walk or no they're going to another pub. 741 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:07,400 They're walking to a pub Gabriel goes ahead of them and then he bumps into May after some 742 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:11,800 dude comes out of what looks like a restroom. 743 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,160 So he comes out and then May comes out like shortly after that. 744 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,120 And then like the first thing that Gabriel says to her is like oh you're a hooker? 745 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,880 And it was just like wait how did you get that? 746 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,040 I mean like there was no discussion it was just like that could have been her boyfriend 747 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,520 for all you know asshole. 748 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,140 You got a point. 749 00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:44,920 It's just like you they just didn't I don't think it was just it was set up quite right. 750 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:51,720 I think that there could have been I'm trying to think of like another way that they could 751 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:55,040 have made that reveal. 752 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,840 Oh I got it. 753 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:04,400 Maybe they're just everyone's freaking like wasted and then they're like hey let's or 754 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:12,040 we can go to another bar and then this dude maybe this the guy that's like offering the 755 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:18,040 to sign them the new manager or whatever he's like I know a place where we can really have 756 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:24,880 some fun and then they go to the maybe the brothel or whatever you want to call where 757 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,880 she works. 758 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,760 Oh dude that would have been a really good way. 759 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,280 Yeah and then it's just like oh that's the reveal. 760 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,280 Yeah. 761 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,640 I think that would have worked just a little bit better than it's just I mean it's still 762 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,640 coming out. 763 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,400 Yeah I mean I still feel it was like a very interesting plot point. 764 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,280 I just wish that like you said it was handled in like a different way or played out in a 765 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,720 different way. 766 00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:54,200 Right and we I think we addressed this in the next category a little bit better a little 767 00:52:54,200 --> 00:53:02,520 bit more but it's just the reason it scored so low is because it was so difficult to follow. 768 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,800 Yes. 769 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:15,440 And like you said you it's almost kind of like they took the synopsis of the movie and 770 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:20,800 just kind of threw in a little bit of like dialogue and then just kind of jumped to those 771 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:27,080 plot points which I think this movie could have easily been maybe an hour 20 hour 30. 772 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,080 Oh yeah easily. 773 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:33,520 Yeah if like some plot points were stretched out or a couple more lines were added we weren't 774 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,000 jumping around so fast. 775 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:39,040 Yeah this easily could have been an hour and a half film and I feel it actually would have 776 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,240 probably what's the word. 777 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:51,480 Oh shit would have gained gained from that. 778 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,040 That's not the word that I'm searching for. 779 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,280 Yeah like enhanced. 780 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,280 There we go. 781 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,280 Yeah that's the word I'm looking for. 782 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,800 Thank you. 783 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,560 Yeah I feel that would definitely would have enhanced the film if it was able to go for 784 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,360 a longer one time. 785 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:17,400 Right and the reason that we we graded it the way that we did so low is like I said 786 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:26,520 because it was so jumpy and we grade the the flow of the movie and I think we've talked 787 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:33,400 about it before but the fan for stick movie it it also has this issue jumping from plot 788 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:40,160 point to plot point to plot point and it's just like it's so jarring it just it just 789 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,160 needs to like it just needs a little slow down. 790 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,920 Yeah but like that movie was what like two hours so. 791 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,320 Yeah but it felt like an hour and a half in a really bad way. 792 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:59,560 Yeah so I feel like I said before if this movie was able to get just a little extra 793 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:04,520 runtime I feel that would have definitely helped out the flow of the movie as well as 794 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,800 the story. 795 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,600 I agree. 796 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,560 So yeah like we said story is sitting at a 50. 797 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:19,160 Moving on over to writing this scored a little bit lower than the story. 798 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,800 This actually got a 46. 799 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:30,000 I mean overall I thought the writing was decent. 800 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:40,560 I think the only wasted lines I felt kind of came out of what was the drummer's name? 801 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,000 No no it wasn't the drummer. 802 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,000 Fuzzy. 803 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:48,800 Okay maybe a couple of his but then do you remember the guy that Gabriel recruits? 804 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,640 Oh the guitarist? 805 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:57,040 Yeah yeah I forget. 806 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,960 Let me go back to the page and see what his name was. 807 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,480 I don't know maybe this might be. 808 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,480 I'm assuming it's Mike? 809 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,000 Oh it's not Samson? 810 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,680 Oh yeah no it's not Samson. 811 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:15,080 Oh so I don't know it could be. 812 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,400 Let's just say he's Mike. 813 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,200 I forget what I forget the guitarist's name. 814 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,360 It's either Mike or Samson. 815 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:28,680 Okay this might be more so with acting but it's just I feel his character was written 816 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:37,800 in there to kind of like give their band members or their band more members to get better sound 817 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:44,680 in a way but then like you get that scene with you know Gabriel recruiting him and then 818 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,720 like a couple scenes. 819 00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:53,960 I feel after that he doesn't really the character really doesn't get a lot of time to shine 820 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,480 with the writing. 821 00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,440 I feel that's really the only time that he really gets any moment in the spotlight. 822 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,120 It's just like hey you play guitar? 823 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,120 Oh that's cool you should be in our band. 824 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,280 Okay cool you know like I've never really or I haven't had a gig or like anything big 825 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,640 happen to me in years so you know like why not? 826 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:19,120 That's kind of like the last plot or like writing plot point that we hear about his 827 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,120 character. 828 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,560 Right honestly I probably would have written him out. 829 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,760 I would have too honestly. 830 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:34,800 He was he was introduced a little late in the game and so it was kind of hard to be 831 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,160 rooting with or for him or with him. 832 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,520 Yeah I can definitely agree with that. 833 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:49,960 Yeah but a lot of the dialogue was it was okay. 834 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:55,560 It wasn't I don't know I feel like there's just there wasn't it didn't feel like there 835 00:57:55,560 --> 00:58:00,680 was it much depth to the chat. 836 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,000 No. 837 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:09,720 Or whenever they were chatting it didn't feel like there was much depth in inside it and 838 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:18,520 I'm interested in or for those of you that don't know hopefully we explain it. 839 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:26,000 This episode or this portion is being recorded before we've interviewed the director so this 840 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:32,760 might actually be one of the questions that we ask but I want to figure out whether how 841 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:40,120 experienced she is at writing or if that's like something that she struggles with because 842 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:48,960 it's like because I've tried writing like I mean you've seen how I've tried writing. 843 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,960 I'm not very very good at writing dialogue. 844 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,720 No he sucks ass. 845 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,800 Yeah I am kidding I'm kidding. 846 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,080 No you're absolutely correct I am garbage at writing dialogue. 847 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:14,480 I suck at it but I am I feel try not to brag but I feel like I'm really good at giving 848 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,800 a broad picture. 849 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,560 Yes you are actually and I can actually. 850 00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,320 It's just the little details. 851 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:33,880 The way I can really prove that is we did a short film for one of my film classes titled 852 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:42,160 I'm Getting There and most of the broad spectrum that we did and like certain plot points that 853 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:48,680 he wanted or like certain area or certain like certain ways that he wanted something 854 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,560 filmed that was all Caleb like honestly I just kind of like took a backseat and was 855 00:59:53,560 --> 01:00:01,320 like you know what Caleb this is your movie let's see what you got even though I got the 856 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,320 grade. 857 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:10,640 Yeah it was until we needed dialogue that I was just like oh I don't know shit. 858 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,840 Well I don't even think for that class I never did a video with dialogue did we? 859 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,280 I think it was all still. 860 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,320 We had a little bit of dialogue. 861 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,320 We did. 862 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,320 Yeah not much but we had a little bit and I feel like that's been your strong suit like 863 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,720 you've always been really good at doing like the conversations. 864 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,200 Well thank you. 865 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:41,520 But yeah and I it's just the broad picture for me is way easier like I can show you what 866 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:48,560 the picture is supposed to be just don't expect a whole lot of detail and I think that's what 867 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:53,200 this movie might have been at least from a writing aspect I think that's what it might 868 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,680 have been lacking a little bit. 869 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,520 I think it was just lacking detail. 870 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,760 Yeah I can agree with that. 871 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:06,920 So it didn't score much less than the story just a few points. 872 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:12,340 I think like we said it was a 46. 873 01:01:12,340 --> 01:01:19,200 It's just it's tough it's tough to get the writing good. 874 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,400 I think that's like the little detail aspect of it is difficult. 875 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,720 So honestly writing I mean we commend you for what you were able to do. 876 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:31,200 Yeah because writing a script is honestly I feel one of the hardest things to do as 877 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,720 a filmmaker if you're the one that's stuck with doing it. 878 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,840 It's a pain in the ass. 879 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,480 So that's all I'm going to say. 880 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:51,440 Mad props but I mean I love writing scripts like honestly I have a fun ass time with it. 881 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:57,760 But I'll fully admit that sometimes it is definitely a struggle but once you get it 882 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:08,040 perfect or like you get it to where it's where you want it to be you feel so great. 883 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:18,600 Yeah it was I mean like we said I'm not sure we could have done much better. 884 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:23,000 It's just this was where I don't think I could have. 885 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,920 It needed a bit more. 886 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,020 I think this just needed. 887 01:02:29,020 --> 01:02:33,560 I think it needed it like a writer's touch. 888 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:41,080 And I'm interested to hear if that's what she wants wanted to focus on the writing or 889 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,080 the directing. 890 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,920 Yeah I'm interested about that too. 891 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:50,280 Because like honestly this is I don't know jack shit about music and so everything that 892 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:56,120 you were was written into this movie just how the script was written so much better 893 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,480 than what I could have done. 894 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:04,880 I don't know jack shit about anything music. 895 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:13,320 So like we said 46 percent or 46. 896 01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,640 Moving on to acting. 897 01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:23,580 So obviously with this being an indie film the actors aren't going to be as well known. 898 01:03:23,580 --> 01:03:33,680 So we'll go I'm going to list off everyone because the cast list is fairly short. 899 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:40,080 But we're going to just be talking at least I'm going to be talking just about the main 900 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,920 three or four characters. 901 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:43,920 Same here. 902 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,400 So starting off with Gabriel. 903 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,960 Gabriel was played by Zach Elias. 904 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:56,680 May was played by Dara Batista. 905 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,560 Oh geez. 906 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:05,120 Tom was played by Isaiah. 907 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,560 I'm pretty sure it's I think it's Isaiah. 908 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,840 I think that's just another way to spell Isaiah. 909 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:10,840 Isaiah? 910 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:11,840 Yeah. 911 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,720 Oh I feel absolutely foolish. 912 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,760 No I could be completely wrong. 913 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,440 That makes a lot more sense. 914 01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:26,160 I could be completely wrong but I just feel that's another way to spell it. 915 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,800 Yeah so Tom was played by Isaiah Jowin. 916 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,880 Fuzzy was played by Amor Sue. 917 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:41,840 Mike was played by Valentino De Rosa. 918 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,840 Gabriel's mother was played by Rosemary Beard. 919 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:51,280 Samson was played by Bo James Morgan. 920 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,600 Louise was played by Kathy Peters. 921 01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:00,680 Angie was played by Katherine Thompson. 922 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,880 Maddie was played by Ashley Crawford. 923 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,640 Mr. Jones played by Kevin Longley. 924 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:17,280 Coach Bruce Hakes and male customer Aiden Robinson. 925 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:25,840 So for acting I mean I threw in the extras in their own like little category and I think 926 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,480 that's kind of what brought it down. 927 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:37,000 So the acting ended up scoring a 60. 928 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:43,040 Definitely one of the higher categories that we graded. 929 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,760 Everyone did really well. 930 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,240 Yeah I was actually really surprised for being an indie film. 931 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,760 The acting is pretty good. 932 01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:05,800 Yeah honestly like we said it's an indie film so these aren't like I don't think. 933 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:12,440 Okay I'm not going to say anything regarding training or whatever but these are probably 934 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:17,060 not as experienced actors. 935 01:06:17,060 --> 01:06:28,080 So there was a lot of the delivery that was on the dry side and mostly I felt that from 936 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,920 Gabriel. 937 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,160 Yes. 938 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:42,800 I feel the one that I got the most emotion out of was Tom who was Gabriel's best friend 939 01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:50,480 played by Isaiah and honestly I felt that he had the most emotion when it came to like 940 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:58,000 who had like the most like energy I would definitely give that to Amor who played fuzzy. 941 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:04,280 Like man I got was like ready to jump off the screen but I loved it. 942 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,280 But they everyone did like a really good job. 943 01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:13,520 It's just like we said it's an indie movie. 944 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:24,200 It's just it's not top quality not top Hollywood quality which is not a bad thing at all. 945 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,200 No no it's not. 946 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:33,240 Like hell honestly some of this acting was better than some Hollywood movies I've seen. 947 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,400 Not going to point fingers. 948 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:42,400 Easily for one we can point fingers that we can be heroes. 949 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:43,640 Oh for real though. 950 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,800 Oh my god. 951 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:52,480 Acting was like a hundred times better than this movie. 952 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,800 Yeah so they everyone did a really good job. 953 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:02,800 I actually really enjoyed the performance of Dara Batista who played May. 954 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,720 That's I think she. 955 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:14,520 Yeah if I had to like one two three like my top three she's top of my list easily. 956 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,040 That's completely understandable. 957 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:24,800 Yeah and then I'd probably give it to Tom after that. 958 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:31,600 Then honestly fuzzy and Gabriel are tied. 959 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:37,320 The only thing I would switch about that ranking would I would is I would put for me I'd put 960 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:45,800 Tom first and then May and then like you said fuzzy and Gabriel are tied for third. 961 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,560 Yeah so I mean you can make the argument either way. 962 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,040 I think it works. 963 01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:59,960 But yeah I think I think Dara did a really good job. 964 01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:04,000 I think she was easily the standout performance. 965 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:09,680 She just hit all the right notes with me. 966 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,960 Yeah absolute same. 967 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:20,480 I feel like as you saw her and Gabriel's relationship or not relationship they're like friendship 968 01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:25,320 and then you know like them being band members grow throughout the movie. 969 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:30,240 Honestly I feel her acting continue to grow throughout the movie. 970 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,480 I absolutely agree. 971 01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:38,760 Yeah can't say enough good stuff. 972 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:46,360 Like we said it's not top Hollywood quality but it is some really solid acting. 973 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,880 Yes absolutely. 974 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:53,240 Because of that we're giving it a 60. 975 01:09:53,240 --> 01:10:00,120 Alright next up we got character development which I personally graded Gabriel. 976 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,280 I did as well. 977 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:06,120 Right and we ended up giving him a 55. 978 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,120 Which. 979 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,120 Oh. 980 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:14,040 Sorry go ahead. 981 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,720 No I was just. 982 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,880 It's hard to see any sort of arc with him. 983 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,760 It was difficult to find an arc. 984 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:24,760 It honestly is. 985 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,600 I don't know I felt like you know like at the beginning you know like you find out that 986 01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,120 you know like he's at this dead end job he's still living with his mom you know but he 987 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,520 wants to get this band going. 988 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,720 So when he finally gets it off the ground everything starts going well you're just like 989 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:45,840 okay this is awesome you know like you know like hopefully he's going to end up with May. 990 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:51,040 He'll move out of his mom's place you know he'll like really start his life. 991 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:56,400 But then you know at the end it turns out that him and May are long lost siblings. 992 01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:02,000 You don't see if he actually did move out of his mom's house so really the only arc 993 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:07,600 that you really see him improve on is that his band actually got somewhere. 994 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:17,160 Right and it felt like the only really bit of growth that we saw from him is him waking 995 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,160 up on time. 996 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,360 That is true. 997 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:32,120 Or just a little bit more pep in his step when he woke up. 998 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:37,760 It was a little on the difficult side to count that as like a full arc because in the end 999 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:47,920 he was damn near in the same position that he started just good at waking up early. 1000 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,160 So I'll give him that. 1001 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,360 Kudos to you for that Gabriel. 1002 01:11:52,360 --> 01:12:04,360 Yeah it's on the weaker side unfortunately but still better than other arcs that we've 1003 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,360 seen. 1004 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,360 We can be heroes. 1005 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,680 Excuse me. 1006 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:16,280 I think we actually ended up giving that one a little bit higher. 1007 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,720 Yeah I'm trying to look back and see what we talked about. 1008 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:20,720 Oh for one Justice League. 1009 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:22,680 One thing else sucked about that movie. 1010 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,880 Why did we give Justice League? 1011 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:31,840 We gave Justice League like where did I just pass it again? 1012 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,080 We gave Justice League a 54. 1013 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,880 Damn. 1014 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,920 Okay really quickly I know this has you know since we're on the subject of Justice League 1015 01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:48,920 really quickly I want to point out to everybody that the Warner Brothers executives like as 1016 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:56,360 Zack Snyder's Justice League is about to drop on HBO Max next month they came out and said 1017 01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:00,280 when Joss Whedon's version of Justice League came out we all knew it was shit but we didn't 1018 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,480 want to admit it. 1019 01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:06,640 You know what I appreciate you guys. 1020 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,200 I appreciate you guys. 1021 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,200 Freaking cowards. 1022 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:13,360 I'm finally saying it. 1023 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,480 Freaking cowards man. 1024 01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:27,720 Yeah going back so 55 actually puts it on the same character development level as Unfriended 1025 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:28,720 which I can absolutely agree with. 1026 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,720 No honestly the character development yeah I mean the character development is not horrible 1027 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:33,720 in that movie. 1028 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:37,640 Yeah but it's not super good either. 1029 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:44,760 Yeah there's like it's tough in a horror that's kind of why we changed character development 1030 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:52,680 with horror into the logic because the character development with horror like that category 1031 01:13:52,680 --> 01:14:00,480 was murdering was murdering some of the horror movies. 1032 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:07,600 I would love to go back to Unfriended for the logic side because that ending defies 1033 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:14,840 all forms of logic. 1034 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,240 But we're not talking about that movie. 1035 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:21,980 Oh my gosh once it counts down the demon actually yeah I know sorry. 1036 01:14:21,980 --> 01:14:31,240 So character development 55 it's good ish. 1037 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,920 It's just that I feel like there's more depth to Gabriel as a character that could have 1038 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:47,940 been explored and I don't think we quite got to see that unfortunately. 1039 01:14:47,940 --> 01:14:58,360 Moving on over to effects this is a movie that doesn't have a whole lot of special effects. 1040 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:06,120 No but there's one effect that I do want to point out just sorry just really quickly Kayla. 1041 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,880 Yeah no go ahead. 1042 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:15,320 And this isn't real this has to do with music but this is also like on an effects side is 1043 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:21,360 this is towards when Gabriel first gets the guitar and you know it's him and May and like 1044 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:25,240 there's I think I think it's him and May and they're starting you know like practice and 1045 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:31,140 it's like you start to hear guitar music in the background before he even starts strumming 1046 01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:36,840 the guitar and like Kayla pointed out it's not even the right guitar noise of what he 1047 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,200 should be playing. 1048 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:52,920 Right yeah it's I like what I really count I counted that more with music and like I count 1049 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,320 all audio issues with music. 1050 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,560 Oh really? 1051 01:15:56,560 --> 01:16:06,000 But I was thinking yeah I was okay yeah but like that makes sense but I was thinking more 1052 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:11,600 of like the transitions and I think there was a lot of transitions that were really 1053 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:18,960 nice like yes there's a lot of them because it's jumping from yes story bit to story bit 1054 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:27,940 but overall like I think they made their their budget work for them especially with like 1055 01:16:27,940 --> 01:16:31,000 the locations that they were able to shoot. 1056 01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:41,160 For real though oh my gosh gorgeous set locations yeah Rose so bravo so amazing. 1057 01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:48,040 Yeah so good like she was able to make a lot of these work for her. 1058 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:54,200 There was there was a couple there was a couple that kind of didn't really work out like when 1059 01:16:54,200 --> 01:17:03,960 they're doing their performance of the the first gig that they get that it was supposed 1060 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,920 to be at a pub but it looked like it was like outside. 1061 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:14,320 Well yeah we never got to set foot inside the pub it was kind of like right that this 1062 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,880 is kind of what I was telling Caleb is that because it kind of took me by surprise that 1063 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:24,000 they're sitting outside warming up and then all of a sudden it cuts to them like already 1064 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,800 done with the performance then a guy comes up and was like hey we loved you guys we want 1065 01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,040 to sign you like wait what they already performed. 1066 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,520 Yeah that was one of those things I'm like okay did I completely miss this part or this 1067 01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,920 part yeah. 1068 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,760 So I actually had to I actually straight up rewinded it a couple like a couple minutes 1069 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,960 to make sure that I didn't miss anything I'm like no okay so they literally have been sitting 1070 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,560 in that location for that long okay. 1071 01:17:52,560 --> 01:18:06,880 Yeah it was jarring to say the least but like I said I count the sets I count the transitions 1072 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,760 any little special effect kind of situation that they had I think it all looked really 1073 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,480 really good. 1074 01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:16,920 Absolutely. 1075 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:23,880 Very few issues with them but unfortunately it's just like we're great in this like every 1076 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:33,880 other movie that we watch it's a little bit it's average so we ended up putting it at 1077 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,200 a 70. 1078 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:44,760 And that's nothing like we didn't dock anything because of a lack of budget it's just I feel 1079 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:58,320 like the 70 actually for me a lot of that was earned during the the rocky road music 1080 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,360 video part. 1081 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:06,240 Oh yeah absolutely that actually looked really good. 1082 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,200 Yeah the all the lighting effects that they did like that looked really solid the only 1083 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:17,280 thing that threw me for a loop is they threw in some they threw in some of the actors that 1084 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:23,720 I don't think they needed to like like Gabriel's boss I'm pretty sure he was one of them that 1085 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:28,360 they threw into the music video like that threw me. 1086 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,560 Yeah that was kind of something. 1087 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:36,320 Yeah and a few of May's friends were in there and I'm just like wait what? 1088 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:40,520 I kind of find it funny that the boss was in the music video but then at the end when 1089 01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:45,360 they're doing like that montage of the newspaper prints the boss sues them for I forget what 1090 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,240 reason. 1091 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:49,840 For defamation of character. 1092 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,680 Oh yeah that's what it was. 1093 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,160 Yeah I thought that was freaking hilarious. 1094 01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:01,440 That was pretty funny. 1095 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:10,360 So like we said effects sitting at a really nice 70 the it's honestly like it's so little 1096 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:18,080 to complain about with that part of the movie or that aspect of the movie. 1097 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:26,340 Moving on over to music so Rose you were actually touching upon that a little bit. 1098 01:20:26,340 --> 01:20:36,080 There was some audio issues at least for me for me so I was watching the movie and I was 1099 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:42,240 playing the audio through my phone speaker and I had to turn the volume up really loud 1100 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:52,640 to hear the dialogue because it's the music was playing way louder than the dialogue. 1101 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:57,840 Yes throughout this whole movie because I watched it on my phone as well and I had to 1102 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:03,520 have my headphones in and even those had to be at full blast to understand what they were 1103 01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:04,520 saying. 1104 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:08,520 Did you have subtitles on? 1105 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,120 No. 1106 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,640 I didn't either I tried to it just confused the hell out of me because the way that YouTube 1107 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:19,840 did the subtitles for this movie like I'm like it was just like sentence after sentence 1108 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,960 it didn't like separate anything of who was saying who so I'm like yeah no this is going 1109 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,800 to make this movie way more confusing. 1110 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:36,040 So I actually switched to headphones halfway through when I was just like yeah I'm having 1111 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:42,120 a real difficult time figuring this movie out and it's just it was also really late 1112 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:47,960 at night too so I couldn't have it like too loud. 1113 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:55,800 So I think that the sound mixing could have used a little bit of work and I know from 1114 01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:03,620 first hand because like I throw the music in for this podcast. 1115 01:22:03,620 --> 01:22:08,420 Sound mixing is a bitch. 1116 01:22:08,420 --> 01:22:15,500 It's not fun to do it is super difficult and if you can't get it just right it's going 1117 01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:20,880 to come back and screw you in the ass hard. 1118 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:27,760 And honestly that's the aspect of the movie that killed the music for me. 1119 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:28,760 Yeah. 1120 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:39,120 If you take out the sound mixing issues I would honestly be sitting about maybe a seven 1121 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,680 a stronger seven a soft eight. 1122 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,960 Yeah like a fairly soft eight. 1123 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:54,640 Yeah it's just there were so many audio issues it's just the dialogue was really quiet and 1124 01:22:54,640 --> 01:23:04,160 the music was really loud and it was just distracting honestly it was it was like yeah 1125 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,940 it was distracting. 1126 01:23:05,940 --> 01:23:11,400 So that's kind of why I personally bumped it down to a six and I think you were on the 1127 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,160 same same boat. 1128 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,160 Yep. 1129 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,160 Yeah. 1130 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:22,920 But like overall the like I feel like the soundtrack to this would like would be really 1131 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,920 good. 1132 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:33,680 The I'm trying to think what was I just about to say. 1133 01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:39,080 Yeah another like what you were talking about the audio didn't quite line up like you got 1134 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:45,440 to see them like strumming the guitars playing on the piano and doing that but very very 1135 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:52,160 few times did you ever hear them do that. 1136 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,320 Yes. 1137 01:23:54,320 --> 01:24:03,760 And I feel like with a movie about a band you should be able to hear them play and we 1138 01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,520 only got to hear them play I feel once. 1139 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:11,040 And that was like during the music video aspect of it. 1140 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,040 Yeah. 1141 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,960 Which I got to give some mad props to whoever wrote that song. 1142 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:23,040 It was it was a pretty damn good. 1143 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,600 You know it's really fun. 1144 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,480 What's his best friend's name. 1145 01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:30,680 Tom Tom. 1146 01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:37,280 I was one of the stupidest things that I noticed in this movie is when they first are shooting 1147 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:43,360 their their first music video for YouTube the tripod that he was using. 1148 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:49,280 I was like oh my gosh I have the exact same tripod. 1149 01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:50,280 I noticed this. 1150 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:55,520 I that's just me noticing the stupidest the stupidest stuff that I can notice. 1151 01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,520 But you know he's got good taste. 1152 01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,920 He's got good taste. 1153 01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:02,120 Yeah. 1154 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:11,480 Honestly I'm I might have accidentally talked myself up with music a little bit and I want 1155 01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:20,320 your thoughts on this because the soundtrack like it's we already kind of docked it for 1156 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:26,020 I mean you already kind of docked it for the audio lineup right. 1157 01:25:26,020 --> 01:25:30,720 The music overall the music overall wasn't bad. 1158 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:36,200 No I think I don't think it's like I said I soundtrack alone and if the audio would 1159 01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:41,440 have lined up a little bit better I would have been at a really soft eight. 1160 01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:48,800 But I think I'm willing if you're willing to maybe bump music up to a seven. 1161 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:50,840 Yeah I'm up for it. 1162 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:51,840 Let's do it. 1163 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:52,840 Yeah sweet. 1164 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:53,840 I say let's do it. 1165 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,560 I say let's do it. 1166 01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,440 All right bumping music up to a seven. 1167 01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:03,920 All right next up we got costumes. 1168 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:12,040 We ended up giving costumes a six and I mean they were I mean honestly like nothing really 1169 01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,840 to write home about like nothing. 1170 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,600 Yeah I mean it was kind of just normal clothes. 1171 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,520 I mean they looked cool. 1172 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:28,800 I'll give them that like they looked pretty cool but it was no like rocket man kind of 1173 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,560 costumes. 1174 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:39,880 Yeah like so giving it a six puts it on the same level as a lot of movies. 1175 01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:45,080 Like it puts on the same level as unhinged which we reviewed last week. 1176 01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:54,480 Same as Better Watch Out, The Oath, Friday the 13th. 1177 01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:58,240 There's a lot of movies that it's in line with. 1178 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:04,440 So like I mean what they wore was like fine but it was nothing like that stood out. 1179 01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:08,620 It was just you know like just normal clothes which you know you can never argue with normal 1180 01:27:08,620 --> 01:27:11,960 clothes because at least they're wearing clothes. 1181 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:12,960 Right. 1182 01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:17,080 All right and then that brings us. 1183 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:23,720 All right and then that brings us to our own personal grade. 1184 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,840 So Rose I'll let you take this one first. 1185 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:28,840 You son of a bitch. 1186 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:34,700 I knew you were going to. 1187 01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:41,200 So I kind of have a hard time giving this one a final grade just because taking away 1188 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,040 the kind of like little problems that I had with it. 1189 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,800 Overall I did enjoy this movie. 1190 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:52,760 Like it's just just like the plot points were just like a little too fast for me. 1191 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:57,560 I wanted it to slow down just a little bit. 1192 01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:04,680 But like overall I did have I did enjoy this movie for what it was. 1193 01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:12,080 It was a decent indie film. 1194 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,080 Oh gosh damn it. 1195 01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:17,200 Because I'm scared if this is going too low for it. 1196 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,320 I'm at like a fifty five. 1197 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:22,320 Fifty five. 1198 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,320 Shit man. 1199 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:24,320 OK. 1200 01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,320 You know what. 1201 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:27,320 No. 1202 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:28,320 OK. 1203 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:29,320 A sixty. 1204 01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:30,320 OK. 1205 01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:34,560 That's a little bit better. 1206 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:35,560 I'm on this. 1207 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:36,560 OK. 1208 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:37,560 Where are you at? 1209 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:38,560 OK. 1210 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,560 I'm a little higher than you. 1211 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:40,560 I actually really enjoyed this movie. 1212 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:51,080 I think this had a lot of potential for some really great storytelling because like the 1213 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:56,280 just the premise of the movie itself is really really good. 1214 01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:06,440 And honestly I don't think like out of everything that involves a movie I think the least important 1215 01:29:06,440 --> 01:29:10,360 aspect to it is the acting. 1216 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:15,920 Like I've watched movies where the acting is just like awful. 1217 01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,040 But no hold up. 1218 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:19,040 I can't. 1219 01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:27,280 The story and the writing have been really good and that kind of helps save the acting 1220 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:28,280 a little bit. 1221 01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,760 See I'm not torn between that. 1222 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,760 That's just me personally. 1223 01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:40,960 No no see I can understand that but I'm kind of torn between that because I feel like a 1224 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:46,880 strong acting performance can almost save a movie. 1225 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,120 I think it can too. 1226 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,080 I think it absolutely can. 1227 01:29:51,080 --> 01:30:00,180 But I'm thinking if it's poorly written and it's poorly acted it's more difficult to enjoy 1228 01:30:00,180 --> 01:30:01,440 the movie. 1229 01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:06,120 And like we discussed it's a good premise. 1230 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,520 It's just lacking details. 1231 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:21,760 And the acting it wasn't top quality but it wasn't like god awful either. 1232 01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:27,720 So it's kind of sitting in like a weird position with me because it's just I watch this movie 1233 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:33,420 and I see all of everything that it can be. 1234 01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:37,400 So I'm sitting at a 65. 1235 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:42,000 Okay not bad. 1236 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,280 Like I said I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. 1237 01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:45,280 I feel like such a dick for saying 55. 1238 01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:46,280 I apologize about that. 1239 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:50,160 Yeah 55 is harsh. 1240 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,160 I'm sorry. 1241 01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,160 Okay it's a 60 for me. 1242 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:58,080 A strong 60. 1243 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:08,080 Like I said it just had enough of the right qualities for me to enjoy it. 1244 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:13,560 And like I said I can forgive bad acting with really solid writing and unfortunately that 1245 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,920 was just where there wasn't. 1246 01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:23,160 That's not where it was for me. 1247 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,240 The effects I thought were really good. 1248 01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:35,200 The audio had some issues that were distracting but I think those could easily be fixed. 1249 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:41,360 You just need a little bit more time sound mixing. 1250 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:48,720 And honestly from what I've learned about doing this podcast even what I've learned 1251 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:57,960 about sound mixing is you don't need the music as loud as you think you do. 1252 01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:04,760 I think like I have learned that over the past couple of videos that I've made. 1253 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:11,560 Yeah and then it's just I really liked it. 1254 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,920 I loved like the potential that I thought it had. 1255 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:21,560 So overall I think this was an amazing indie movie. 1256 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:30,200 I think Rose just she has a really bright future ahead of her and I am very much looking 1257 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:35,040 forward to seeing what she comes up with in the future. 1258 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:48,960 Honestly the only note that I have for her is just maybe hire a writer. 1259 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,640 That's honestly the only note I have. 1260 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,000 Like I think her direction is really well done. 1261 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:59,400 I think she does a really solid job at every aspect of the movie. 1262 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:03,460 Just you need a little you need a sound mixer and you need a writer. 1263 01:33:03,460 --> 01:33:06,880 Get those you're you're flawless. 1264 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:08,680 You're golden. 1265 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,840 Yeah yeah hell yeah. 1266 01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:22,280 So all of that added up so our the average for our personal grade has come to a 62.5. 1267 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:39,720 So the final letter grade for the rocky road to freedom is a D minus. 1268 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,200 I'm sorry Rose. 1269 01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:46,800 Yeah we're really sorry. 1270 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:48,800 We liked your movie. 1271 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,480 Yeah even though it doesn't seem like we did. 1272 01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:55,320 We promise you we did. 1273 01:33:55,320 --> 01:34:09,800 Yeah it's just it's so it's sitting at a 62.3125 percent which let me see if I can find exactly 1274 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:11,600 where like how. 1275 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:15,960 Gosh I can't freaking see. 1276 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:23,000 Let's see D minus D minus. 1277 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:27,600 Yeah it is just just shy of being a D. 1278 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,240 Ah damn. 1279 01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:37,640 Honestly what what killed this movie in the grade system was the writing. 1280 01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:47,080 That was the lowest score that we gave but a little bit higher on any of these categories 1281 01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:56,600 would have bumped you up to a to a higher score. 1282 01:34:56,600 --> 01:35:03,400 So overall I think for everything that you were able to accomplish with the budget I 1283 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:09,000 think you did an amazing job and like I said I cannot wait to watch what you come up with 1284 01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,000 in the future. 1285 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,480 Neither can I. 1286 01:35:11,480 --> 01:35:16,920 And hopefully you won't hate us and will want us to review those two. 1287 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:20,480 Because we'll be more than happy to. 1288 01:35:20,480 --> 01:35:28,080 Please don't hate us. 1289 01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:37,900 If it is any consolation at all and hopefully it is kind of you. 1290 01:35:37,900 --> 01:35:46,880 This movie is actually two points higher than 50 Shades of Grey. 1291 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,520 Bam there we go. 1292 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:54,520 Yeah I don't know if that make that that softens the blow at all. 1293 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:58,920 I hope it does because 50 Shades of Grey sucked. 1294 01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,560 It's garbage. 1295 01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:09,320 And that's the only the only D minus movie that we have unfortunately. 1296 01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:15,600 But like I said don't hate us please. 1297 01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:20,400 We really liked your movie and we're really excited for your future. 1298 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:33,880 So if you ever want another review we understand if you don't want to go with us. 1299 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:38,680 But we want to. 1300 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:47,920 So anyway if you have liked this episode and want to check out more of the content that 1301 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:53,640 we release we release every Monday. 1302 01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:54,640 Right Monday? 1303 01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,160 Yeah we release every Monday. 1304 01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,200 Been doing this for how long? 1305 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:03,640 And if you would like to you can I know right? 1306 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,320 Well we haven't been releasing Monday since the beginning. 1307 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:13,000 Okay but still we were lucky to release weekly when we first started out. 1308 01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:14,000 Okay fair. 1309 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:19,040 But our set release day has been Monday for quite some time here buddy. 1310 01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,680 That is true. 1311 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:24,040 So if you like this episode want to hear more of our stuff be sure to follow and subscribe 1312 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:29,680 to us wherever you listen to podcasts we are damn near everywhere. 1313 01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:35,040 You can catch all of our episodes on YouTube as well as some bonus videos that we might 1314 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:36,040 make someday. 1315 01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,920 You can also follow us on social media. 1316 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:44,880 So facebook facebook.com slash the all bros twitter and instagram at the all bros. 1317 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:50,280 Hit us up if you want to hit or come up with an episode idea have a movie that you want 1318 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01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:37,960 I think we just lost another design this week. 1329 01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,680 Did another one get reported? 1330 01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,000 Yeah the freaking live action DC heroes. 1331 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,880 Gosh damn it. 1332 01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:44,880 I quit. 1333 01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:45,880 I quit. 1334 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,880 Yeah that's freaking bullshit. 1335 01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:51,680 Well actually no you quit you're the one that creates all these. 1336 01:38:51,680 --> 01:39:00,720 Yeah I think I'm on the safe side now hopefully because now I create everything from scratch. 1337 01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:08,080 There's not a single thing that I steal from the internet now. 1338 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:16,240 Like everything is like handmade so if anything gets reported. 1339 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,640 I need better wifi I'll upload some new designs. 1340 01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,640 Fight me studios. 1341 01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:27,160 Yeah I'll be posting some new designs once I get a better wifi connection. 1342 01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:34,000 With the move I don't have the best wifi so once that happens we'll upload some new shit. 1343 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,320 When that will happen nobody knows. 1344 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:42,760 Yeah hopefully when I move again. 1345 01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:54,280 So next week you guys can look forward to our breakdown of Tom and Jerry which came 1346 01:39:54,280 --> 01:39:58,720 out Friday. 1347 01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:03,520 Last Friday if you're listening to this on the day that it comes out. 1348 01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,920 So super excited for that. 1349 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:07,320 Hope you guys are looking forward to it too. 1350 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:10,960 It was released in theaters as well as on HBO Max. 1351 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,880 Hell yeah so go check it out. 1352 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:16,840 But until then this has been the All Bros podcast. 1353 01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:17,840 I'm Caleb. 1354 01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,040 And I'm Jonathan. 1355 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,000 And we'll catch you guys next week. 1356 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,240 Peace.