What up bros, this is the All Bros Podcast.
I'm Caleb.
And I'm Jonathan.
And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but
also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on Zpodcast we have a couple figures that we're going to be talking about in Funko
Focus.
Nothing in 4Ks this week or nothing for 4K spotlight.
And our Through the Wall, Rose is going to go on a little bit of a rant.
Just a little bit.
And then for our headliner this evening we are going to be breaking down the 2021 movie
Tom and Jerry.
So this should be a fun episode.
Oh yes, so much.
Yeah, but without further ado let's get into it.
Let's do it.
Hey guys what's up.
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And this is not the show to listen to if you're trying to be a better adult.
I started this podcast as a way to offload some thoughts that I have throughout the week.
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The list goes on and on.
I'm always taking topic suggestions from fans of the show too.
So join me each week on Adulting with Donnie as I pour some bourbon and allow you to see
the inner workings of the mind of a madman.
Live free and rant hard.
Alrighty first up in Funko Focus.
There's a couple of new figures that we're going to be talking about for my pick this
week.
If you guys have not seen Wandavision, episode I want to say 8.
There's 9 episodes.
Is it episode 8 that this one's revealed?
Uh yes, at the tail end.
Okay so if you've not catch the ass end of episode 8, spoiler alerts ahead, skip ahead
a couple minutes at least.
My pick for Funko Focus is the White Vision.
And holy shit.
This figure is badass.
She is a beauty, she really is a beauty.
Yeah, so for those of you that don't know, you probably skipped ahead but whatever.
So this is the vision that's lacking any color that is, was activated by sword and he's lost
all pigment so he's just pure white.
And it's just so badass.
So freaking badass.
It really is.
It's so cool.
Yeah.
I freaking loved it.
So good.
This is such a good looking figure.
I only have a couple different visions.
I have the one from Age of Ultron.
I believe.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Age of Ultron.
And then I have the First Appearance vision.
I thought the vision besides the first appearance you had is the same one that I have which
was from Infinity War.
It might have been Infinity War.
It's whichever one is floating on his cape.
I'm pretty sure it's Infinity War.
Yeah, because remember we went to Hot Topic to get him and we got the last two.
That's right.
Yeah, that's right.
So yeah, my mistake.
The one from Infinity War.
Love that figure and I love this figure.
I think it looks so freaking cool.
It almost kind of gives me like the prototype vibes.
I can agree with that and I am absolutely okay with that.
Yeah.
The thing that freaking throws this figure over the moon for me is it's glow in the dark.
Oh shit, it is?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
So it's like most of the face is white.
Like it glows white.
And I think the eyes are blue.
Pretty sure.
I don't think I've seen a decent picture of the glow yet, but freaking legit.
But yeah, this isn't one that I'm particularly going to pick up.
I just thought this one was like super badass.
I prefer the vision when he's all like colored like the vision.
Are you a visionist?
I'm a little visionist.
Anyway, Rose, what is your Funko Focus this week?
So my Funko Focus is they announced a new Qui-Gon Jinn pop from the Phantom Menace.
So if you guys have had bad luck getting, I think there's been like two or three other
releases of Qui-Gon Jinn.
So if you've had trouble like literally every single other Funko collector, here's your
chance, even though this is also going to be an exclusive, it ain't going to be common.
They haven't announced yet where it will be exclusive to, but yeah, keep your eyes peeled
because it seems like everybody always wants a Qui-Gon Jinn pop.
If you want one, you always have to pay out the ass for one.
No joke.
So is this figure the classic looking Qui-Gon Jinn or updated or anything like that?
So it's quite, so the, what is it?
Wow.
The tag, I guess, I don't know what it's called on the bottom of the box just says Qui-Gon
Jinn Tatooine.
So I mean, he's wearing his classic Jedi robe, has one arm out and then he's holding his
lightsaber.
So is this like an updated model or is it like the original like blocky looking model?
No, it's an updated model.
It's an updated model?
Yeah.
That's pretty bad ass then.
You know, honestly, I could just show you right now.
Yeah, I haven't seen.
Oh shit.
Oh my God.
It's cracked.
Freaking drop me.
What?
It cracked.
I'm kidding.
I'm totally kidding.
Dude, how much would that have sucked?
That would especially sucked.
You know how much this phone costed or costs, not costed.
I can talk.
Costed.
I can speak English.
I promise.
I don't even know if you got a good look of that.
Did you?
No, I got a decent look.
Okay.
Before I freaked the hell out.
Yeah.
I actually prefer the modern look to the old look and at least when it comes to Star Wars,
I think the Star Wars classic look is a little just too generic.
That's fair.
Oh, especially like when it comes to like Han Solo or Luke Skywalker.
Yeah, they look like damn.
It's basically playing the Lego game.
Yeah, I was just about to bring that up.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, literally you could change Anakin or Luke's hair and they'd look exactly the same.
Yeah, straight up.
So I actually appreciate that they updated the model for Qui-Gon.
So frigging awesome.
That is a kicking figure.
A kicking figure?
I don't know.
Words are hard today.
Dude, I like went off for like two minutes.
First and foremost, his kick ass.
Yeah, okay, whatever.
Dude, like no joke this morning, I was talking to Brielle and for like, I swear it was like
a minute where I was just like uttering nonsense.
Like it was to the point I didn't even know what I was saying.
And a lot of I feel like a lot of the stuff that I was saying weren't even real words.
It was just like noises.
It was just like, and it went on for a lot longer than I feel good about.
Just thinking to herself, are you taking vocal lessons from Iris?
Because that's what it sounds like.
Getting stuck in baby talk is like a legit thing.
So anyway, that's our Funko Focus this week.
Do you have anything else you wanted to say about your Qui-Gon?
No, I mean, I don't have any interest in picking it up.
It's cool, but I'm not the biggest Star Wars fan.
So yeah, but it's cool.
So that's all I want to say.
Agreed.
All right.
Moving on over to Through the Wall.
I think we are properly prepared now for your rant.
Okay, here we go.
So we're going to lean back and just enjoy the show.
So I believe it was, you know, actually, I'm going to pull this up because you guys need
to know this specific thing.
So as I'm sure everyone knows, unfortunately, Stephen Hillenberg passed away a couple years
ago due to ALS.
And Stephen Hillenberg was the creator of SpongeBob SquarePants.
And he had one wish when he, well, I'm sure he had many other wishes.
But so yeah, so this was two days ago that this was announced, which was, what was that,
March 4th this was announced.
So he had a couple of guidelines when it came to SpongeBob SquarePants.
The biggest one was that there was going, there were to be no spinoffs.
It was just supposed to be the SpongeBob SquarePants show.
That's it.
Well, after Stephen Hillenberg passed, Nickelodeon decided to F a dead man.
I'm going to put it bluntly like that.
And decided to not only green light, green light, isn't that the word, right?
Yeah.
Green light, not one, but two SpongeBob spinoffs.
The first one is the one that we actually already have.
It's on Paramount Plus right now and that is Camp Coral, which literally, oh my gosh,
just ruined SpongeBob continuity so much because so many of these characters did not mean when
they were little kids.
But we're not talking about Camp Coral.
We're talking about the show that they announced two days ago, which was the Patrick Star Show.
Why?
What?
Yeah.
Oh, you didn't know that?
I thought you knew.
I heard about Camp Coral.
I didn't hear about the Patrick Star Show.
Yeah.
Why is it doing a Patrick Star Show?
Because the comedic sidekick getting his own show has always worked so well in the past
for other series.
We're looking at you, Planet Sheen.
So yeah.
So I guess it will, what was it?
So it says Nickelodeon has issued a 13 episode order for its SpongeBob SquarePants spinoff,
the Patrick Star Show, following rumors of development last summer.
The show will feature a young adult Patrick living at home with his parents, Bunny and
Cecil, his grand pat and little sister, Squidina, and follow as he hosts his own television
show from his bedroom studio.
It will debut sometime this summer on Nickelodeon.
Oh, good Lord.
I just want to point out the what the hell is up with?
Okay.
I broke my phone again, dropped my phone again.
But okay, Caleb, so this is how the cast of characters are supposed to look.
That's not even how his parents look.
Right?
Thank you.
So I forget what episode it is, but there's one episode we are actually introduced to
Patrick Star's parents.
First imposters, but then his actual parents towards the end.
They never looked like that.
They were actually pink.
What the shit?
Yeah.
And also-
When did he have a little sister?
Yeah, right.
And why does she have a triangle head?
Is she starfish?
I don't think she looks some more like-
Oh my gosh.
Wait, isn't her name Squid something?
What's her name?
Yeah, maybe she's adopted.
Oh my gosh.
I was going to say, did Patrick's mom have an affair with Squidward's mom?
Or sorry, did-
That's not how that works.
I don't know if Nickelodeon wants to go to that territory yet.
No, sorry.
Did Patrick's mom have an affair with Squidward's dad?
And bada bing, bada boom.
And she just passed it off as, oh yeah, that's totally Patrick's dad's daughter.
There's no doubt about that.
Did you see the striking resemblance?
What?
So yeah, I am beyond pissed off about this.
They're going against everything that Stephen Hillenberg said and just milking SpongeBob
for literally all that they can.
And they're literally going to run this series, this character, these characters into the
ground.
Oh my gosh.
It's going to be a sad day.
Like honestly, I know you haven't watched the A Caleb, I haven't either.
But the third SpongeBob movie I've heard is literally just a prelude into Camp Coral.
Oh shit.
Yeah.
So yay.
Dude, like there's so many different options that they could have gone with when in regards
to a spinoff.
Doing one about Patrick, a character that we know really well, so dumb.
The only one that I would ever want to spinoff, but the only one that I think would make sense
would actually be Sandy and see her life before she became, before she came to Bikini Bottom.
Yeah.
Either that or something along the lines of like Plankton and Mr. Krabs.
We kind of got that though in one episode, like you actually saw them as little kids
and like why they hated, or cause have you seen that episode at all?
I don't think I have.
So they, yeah.
So, so Mr. Krabs and Plankton actually used to be best friends as kids, but they actually,
I want to say I'm remembering this correctly.
They actually came up with the Krabby Patty secret formula together.
And because Mr. Krabs, I guess, didn't want to, you know, be like share the recipe.
He wanted to like take it for his own.
That's why they split up and Plankton made his own recipe and Mr. Krabs banked off of
that recipe.
And I need to watch the episode again, but yeah, so they used to be friends as kids,
but then the whole burger situation just ruined it for them.
Okay.
So knowing that then, yeah, Sandy would be the next obvious choice.
No, not Squidward.
Can we get Squidward and Squilliam as kids?
Yeah, he kind of is.
I kind of want at least like a little short though of like Squidward and Squilliam and
why they hate each other so much.
Like I would not hate that.
Hopefully they like touch upon that in Camp Coral.
I don't know.
I guess we'll see.
I mean, I'm going to watch the third movie before I watch Camp Coral because I actually
was going to watch like an episode of Camp Coral last night on Paramount Plus, but I'm
like, oh shit, I haven't watched the movie yet.
I should probably watch that first.
Yeah.
So did they release the entire season on Paramount Plus or?
I don't know how long the first season is because right now there's like seven episodes
on there.
I don't know if that's the whole season.
So, okay.
Huh.
Yeah, this is a mistake.
A very big mistake.
So disappointing.
Like, if you're going to not respect the wishes of a creator's work or at least what he wanted
to happen with his work, at least freaking do something good.
Like, I haven't seen Camp Coral.
I'm going to give it a shot.
But I mean, obviously after I see the movie now knowing that that's kind of a prelude
to Camp Coral, but yeah.
I don't know if I'm going to give this show a chance.
It's just, I don't think I'm going to.
Why?
Like, honestly, I mean, Camp Coral is one thing, but I feel this is too far.
Yeah.
Honestly, I think they should have done something completely different.
I would have actually almost preferred like a documentary style show where it's interviewing
the residents of Bikini Bottom during the shenanigans that SpongeBob gets up to.
That would actually be interesting.
Yeah.
And then like you wouldn't even have to do like a full feature length or not feature
length, a full length show.
You could just make those shorts if you really wanted to.
Can the interviewer please be Perch Perkins though?
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
I'm glad you got the reference.
Yeah.
I'm disappointed in Nick.
Give me both.
Yeah, there's a lot of things that I'm disappointed about.
One actually I didn't, I just remembered this, so I might as well bring it up.
Rugrats.
Oh yeah, that UCGI movie.
They're rebooting a rugby movie.
Or not, sorry, not movie, show.
I appreciate that they brought back the cast.
Oh they did?
I didn't know that.
I mean, I think I did.
If they didn't, then Angelica and Chucky sounded damn near perfect.
Well, that's good.
I still haven't watched the trailer for that.
I need to.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's, oh shit, what's her name?
She does the voice for Bubbles in the, is it Tara Strong?
Yeah, oh yeah, she plays Tommy, right?
Yeah, I think she does Tommy and Angelica.
Oh shit.
I'm pretty sure she's back.
That's awesome.
Yeah, and then I don't know who the rest of the cast is.
At least not off the top of my head, but I hope they brought back the rest of the cast.
Chucky sounded a little off, but it was almost like Chucky sounded like the voice for him
was older.
Oh god.
All right.
So is that going to be exclusively on Paramount Plus?
I'm pretty sure.
I think I saw the Paramount Plus exclusive intro or outro.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, so that one's going to be interesting.
I hope they just don't, Nick just didn't run out of ideas and just like, just reboot the
old shit.
Dude, Nick ran out of ideas a long time ago.
You're not wrong, but who knows?
Maybe something good will come out of it.
Maybe, what's his name?
Butch Hartman will bring back Danny Phantom.
That'd be awesome.
Also, I want, I actually, well, okay, actually, wait, no, we got a true ending to the Fairly
Oddparents with Channel Chasers.
Nevermind.
That's, to me, that's the definitive ending.
That is the definitive ending.
Not that shit that Nickelodeon came up with.
Anything after that is garbage.
Yeah, not that shit that Nickelodeon came up with for the final season.
Dude, have you watched any of the episodes after?
Oh, it's awful.
God awful.
Yeah, they're trash.
Okay, I actually want a true series ending to Jimmy Neutron because we never got one.
Dude, I want Jimmy Neutron back.
You and me both, stupid ant bully, frickin' ruined it all.
Yeah, frickin', god damn it.
You just had to make not a lot of money, you bastard.
No, you should have just pumped out another Jimmy Neutron movie and called it good.
There we go.
Gosh, that show could have gone on for at least four or five more seasons.
Oh, easy.
And we probably would have gotten two or three more Chimmy Timmy power hookers.
That would have been sick.
That would have.
Aw, dude, I would have loved if they brought in Danny Phantom, SpongeBob, just like Nick
Toons Unite.
That would be so freaking cool.
Oh my gosh, dude, that would be so cool.
That would be so cool.
But Paramount Plus seems like it's actually one of the few streaming services that they've
announced that I'm kind of impressed by, at least with the content that they're releasing.
Dude, like I told you, I've been very impressed too because I finally found a streaming service
because Hulu didn't have it, even though I felt like they used to have all the Nickelodeon
shows.
But Paramount Plus finally has all three seasons of Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide.
No shit.
Yep, yeah.
It's freaking awesome.
I'm loving it.
Oh, I'm sold.
Yep.
I was going to be sold on the freaking Rugrat reboot and some of the movies that they were
talking about having on there.
But Ned's Declassified, that's hard to beat.
Yep.
Yeah, got that.
Although I love how Netflix and Paramount Plus are sharing iCarly right now.
Yeah.
I think they kind of have to.
I think that's the cost for Paramount Plus to be like, here is one of our better shows,
and then get them to be like, oh, I wonder what happened to all those other Nick shows.
And then they're like, oh, Paramount Plus.
Yeah.
We've got Zoey 101, Drake and Josh.
They even have the Amanda show on there.
No shit.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
I'm going to have fun looking through Paramount Plus.
It's awesome.
Freaking childhood nostalgia.
Yeah.
I'm actually really excited because they announced they were going to do a Last Airbender movie,
like an animated one.
Okay, good.
Thank goodness.
It's animated.
Yeah.
Like, I think they're they were talking like original cast and everything, or just kind
of going back to the story.
They're actually just starting an Avatar Studios.
That's awesome.
So who knows what that means?
If that means that we get more Aang, if we just get more Avatar in general, because I
think the Avatar story is so freaking interesting.
Oh, it is.
I didn't watch a lot of it as a kid.
But I mean, from what I've heard from friends, it was one of the greatest shows ever created.
Easily, dude.
Like even their filler episodes, and you know when they're filler episodes, but you don't
get mad or just kind of like, I guess I'm not I'm not going to watch this one.
Yeah, because the filler episodes add such a richness to every character.
It's insane.
It is absolutely insane what the creators were able to do.
And it makes me sad because that's what I feel like Legend of Korra could have been.
Had Nick known what they had.
Yeah.
But like, have you heard the story with that?
Oh, yeah.
So the reason Legend of Korra, or at least the creators kind of blame the Legend of Korra,
or the not super success of Legend of Korra, what they blame it on is Nick were cutting
back on shows.
And so they were only funding one season at a time.
Oh, and so and then they wouldn't say they wouldn't tell them, oh, yeah, we'll fund
you for another season.
Like they thought, OK, this is our only chance to tell a story that we're going to tell a
good one.
So it's like an overarching story for the whole season.
And so like they told their story and then it was just like, OK, now we can come to an
end.
And then they were just like, actually, that did really good.
We want a second season.
And they're like, shit.
And so they did it again.
And then I think they were talking about canceling it and or not continuing on with the third
season.
And so they're just like, all right, let's go frickin ham on this.
So they did like an insane story in season two.
They just won that was just like an end all for.
For Avatar.
And then they're like, actually, we want a third season.
And they're like, shit.
And then the third and then the third season didn't do as well.
So, gee, I wonder why.
Yeah.
And so like they had to do because they it was insane.
So like the first episode or the first season, that story focuses on someone that has the
ability to take away bending and ends up taking away the bending of the Avatar.
Oh, OK.
And then she has to kind of like unlock her her spiritual side and unlock her chi and
then like regains her bending and everything has to learn from like her past selves.
It's like it's a really good story.
And then the second season, when they thought that they were going to get canceled, they
went it's they went back to the beginning, the very beginning, the the spiritual or the
spirits inside the Avatar, the ones that give the Avatar their power.
They went and did that and had like a big ass frickin fight.
Like a huge frickin fight where it was just like.
There was like someone trying to become like the dark Avatar because they're like there's
like a yin and yang.
So these spirits that are constantly fighting one's good, one's evil.
And so like they're constantly fighting.
And then the good is able to lock away the darkness.
But then there's some dude trying to unlock that.
And so he's able to like remove this.
He removes the spirit from or the good spirit from the Avatar Cora.
He removes that and it.
Takes away her connection to all of her past lives.
And so.
Yeah.
And so when she gets her powers back, it's like starting fresh, like she's the only Avatar.
That she can like access, she can't go back to her past lives and ask for guidance or
or help or whatever the hell that she wants.
Damn.
Yeah.
And then the third season, she has to fight some frickin military woman.
OK, I can understand why the third season didn't do so well.
Yeah, they just jumped and they're just like, OK, so this chick is trying to take over the
Earth Kingdom with her metal benders and.
Yeah.
Like, that's basically it.
It's sad.
It's the way that I watch Avatar, I don't watch the third.
I will watch the first or the third season.
Like if I wanted to start Avatar from the beginning and just be like, OK, I want to
watch all the Avatar episodes.
I'll watch the third season of Cora.
Then I'll start with like Avatar, the last Airbender, finish that and then go into Legend
of Cora.
And so I finish on the ending of season two.
Makes sense.
Well, I hope we get more like I loved Cora.
I love the last Airbender.
I want more of just the Avatar world.
I think they built such an amazing world that they can explore.
Like I want to go.
I would love it if they went back and explain, like told the story of different avatars.
That'd be super dope.
Like if they went back and told like maybe finished off Ang's story.
Like we know where where Cora ends and obviously like it.
He's like the continues a line so you can continue on with Cora if you want.
But I would do like a full season where it's just focusing on Ang's story after the the
last Airbender series.
So focus on Ang and everything that he accomplished.
Then go back to Roku finish or go through whatever he accomplished, which I mean, you
don't really have to because they did like a really good powwow episode of his backstory.
But I think you could get into it a little bit more and then then go back to the earth
bending avatar and then go back to the water bending avatar and like just keep moving yourself
back like that would be freaking dope.
That would be super dope.
Just make sure M. Night Shyamalan doesn't touch anything.
No.
And M. Night Shyamalan can go to hell.
Anyway, there's my avatar rant.
All right.
I love it.
All right.
Well, that concludes through the wall.
So let's move on to this week's headliner where we break down Tom and Jerry.
Let's do it.
All righty.
First up, we actually asked a question of the week this week.
And we got a few responses or just a couple.
Yeah, it was just a couple.
So the question that we asked is what is past or present?
What is your favorite Tom and Jerry bit?
So our first response comes to us from Flamingale5 otherwise known as Sammy.
She says I'm sheltered because I don't think I've ever seen a Tom and Jerry episode slash
bit.
My heart.
Sammy.
What the hell?
How have you not seen at least one Tom and Jerry short?
I know.
You're missing out.
Tom and Jerry is freaking amazing.
It's pretty I mean, it's pretty violent for a cartoon, at least nowadays with all the
Karens and snowflakes out there.
But straight up, it's it's it still holds up.
So Sammy, go check out Tom and Jerry, either the movie or the classic show, whichever.
Yeah, we'll get into that with the movie.
No, no, no.
I got the perfect recommendation.
Willy Wonka and Tom and Jerry and the Chocolate Factory.
There we go.
That's good.
Don't do that to her.
No, that's what you should definitely check out.
Don't listen to nightmares.
You will have nightmares.
I promise you.
Trust me.
Don't listen to him.
Go watch a classic Tom and Jerry episode.
Just anything that's not those movies.
Yeah.
All right.
Next up, we got a response from Wolfie Lobito 666.
Yeah, I guess that's OK.
He said the golf episode is my all time fave and also the weird Gene Dyke episodes.
OK, I've seen the golf episode.
I don't know about that latter one.
I think...
Let me just double check.
But I'm pretty sure Gene Dyke is an artist on one of the shows.
Oh, he's the creator of Tom and Jerry.
Oh.
That sounds like a really good episode though.
Yeah.
So he was actually the animator for Tom and Jerry.
So, let's see.
He...
I probably should have looked this up beforehand, but yeah.
So from 1961 to 1962, he directed 13 Tom and Jerry shorts for MGM.
Very nice.
He says he had misgivings about Tom and Jerry thinking that they were needlessly violent.
However, after being assigned to work on the series, he quickly realized that nobody took
the violence seriously and it was merely a parody of exaggerated human emotions.
I'm glad to hear no one took it seriously.
Unlike today.
So nice to know even in the 60s, people thought that it was violent.
Yeah, but they didn't take it that seriously.
Thank goodness.
No.
No one took it that seriously.
Like, you didn't have to put, do not attempt this at home.
It's like, oh, I shouldn't drop a piano on my cat or on my siblings or...
We hadn't entered the jackass days yet.
Yeah, true that.
But yeah, so that those episodes, I think I remember his animation and I loved those
episodes.
But the golf episode is an absolute classic.
Yeah, absolutely.
I love the ever living hell out of the golf episodes.
I loved all the gags that they were able to do with it.
Like when Tom's fricking whacking Jerry with the golf club and then he lifts it up and
then he can see the outline of Jerry sticking his tongue out.
You know, honestly, I'm kind of surprised that your mom let you watch Tom and Jerry.
Where did you have to sneak it?
That's one that I kind of had to sneak at first until she eventually got to the point
where she's like, ah, it's an old show.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, but Tom and Jerry was a classic.
I love that show.
Geez, are you all right?
Yeah, I'm good.
I'm just dying over here.
It's all good.
Oh, shit.
But yeah, Tom and Jerry was an instant classic.
I loved Tom and Jerry.
So thank you, you two, for answering our question of the week.
We really appreciate hearing from you guys.
So getting into the breakdown.
If you guys are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into eight different
categories that we have individually graded to come to a final All Bros letter grade.
Or the eight categories that we grade are story writing, acting, character development,
effects, music, costumes.
And then at the very end, we give our own personal grade.
So we have not discussed our personal grades yet because we're we're going to save that
for the end because the final grade can actually bump this up, could bump it down.
And it's all a surprise.
Yeah.
And I like to be surprised too.
So that's why we're doing it this way.
Depends on what kind of surprise, though.
Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah.
So anyway, starting off with story, if you have not seen this movie, it is on HBO Max
right now.
And I think it's is it streaming like is it permanently on HBO Max or is this one of those
streaming for 30 days?
No, it's one of those streaming for 30 days, but it's also in theaters right now.
So OK.
Yeah.
So go check out this movie.
Go give it some love.
And then come back.
Yeah.
And then come back.
And then Rose is going to spoil the whole thing again.
Yeah.
So if you don't want to see the movie, I guess don't.
I guess you can be an asshole like that.
Just know that we're going to spoil the movie for you.
So without further ado, everyone, it is reading with Rose time with two E's.
I always have to add that I got to I got to.
All right.
In Manhattan, Tom Cat, who dreams of becoming a pianist, plays in Central Park while his
longtime rival Jerry Mouse is in search of a new home.
During one of Tom's performances, Jerry picks a fight with him, which ends with Tom's keyboard
destroyed.
Kayla Forrester, a young woman doing odd jobs, ends up bumping into Tom while he is chasing
Jerry.
Looking for a position at the Royal Gate Hotel, Kayla is tasked with helping event manager
Terrence Mendoza to set up a high profile wedding after presenting a stolen resume as
her own.
At the same time, Jerry takes up residence at the hotel, whereas regular shenanigans
involve stealing food and items to ramp up his new lifestyle.
Preida Mehta and her fiance Ben, along with their pets Spike and Toots.
I didn't even realize that was the name of her cat, Toots.
Yeah.
Okay.
Arrive at the hotel.
Spike said it different.
Like it's not Toots.
Spike always said it like Toots.
Oh, Toots.
Okay.
Fine.
That makes sense.
Okay.
Fine.
With their pets Spike and Toots arrive at the hotel where they are met by Kayla and Terrence,
who both greet them unaware of Jerry stealing from Preida's handbag.
As the couple is escorted to their rooms, Jerry's presence is made known, which puts
the wedding and the hotel at risk.
Kayla offers to help catch Jerry without anyone knowing, which impresses Henry DeBrose, the
hotel's owner.
In her pursuit to catch Jerry, Kayla befriends a bartender named Cameron.
Meanwhile, a depressed Tom falls into despair until he notices Jerry inside one of the hotel
rooms.
An enraged Tom goes after him, leading to the pair fighting and wrecking the whole room.
Kayla comes to check due to noise complaints, befriends Tom, and persuades DeBrose on hiring
him to catch Jerry despite Terrence's disagreement.
After many failed attempts, Tom finally succeeds in getting Jerry out of the hotel.
Meanwhile, Kayla learns from Preida that her engagement ring is missing and offers to help
without Ben knowing, sparking a friendship between the two.
Learning that Tom has gotten rid of Jerry, Kayla celebrates with Cameron and Tom, and
the latter plays a song on the piano to impress Toots.
However, Jerry returns and reveals to Kayla that he had Preida's ring with him and agrees
to give it back to her if she lets him stay.
Before Kayla can agree, Terrence returns from walking Spike.
Jerry hides in Kayla's coat pocket, sparking a chase during which Spike, Tom, and Jerry
demolish the hotel lobby.
Terrence is put on leave while Kayla takes over as event manager for returning the ring
stolen by Jerry.
To prevent any more of Tom and Jerry's shenanigans risking the wedding and thus her job, Kayla
tells them that they have to get along and spend the whole next day far away from the
hotel if they want to stay which they agree.
Tom and Jerry bond during their trip but unfortunately are taken to a pet compound after they inadvertently
disrupt a baseball game.
Okay, I just want to point this out, so that's what gets them thrown into the pound?
It's not just a cat and mouse being at a baseball game?
It's the fact that they actually interfered with the game?
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't feel like that's an uncommon occurrence in Tom and Jerry.
Okay, fair enough.
I feel like they do get away with shit like that and then when shit just hits the fan
then they get sent to the pound or then they get in trouble or then they're told, hey,
no cats allowed.
I kind of got that same vibe in the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie because no one really
batted an eye when they saw a walking moose and a flying squirrel.
They're just like, oh my gosh, you guys are those characters from the cartoon.
This is amazing.
No, holy shit, you can actually walk on your two feet.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Avengeful logic for you.
Yeah, exactly.
Avengeful Terrence visits Tom and Jerry in their cell and he tells lies about the duo,
angering them both.
At the start of the wedding, Terrence incites Tom and Jerry to fight, which ultimately results
in the rest of the hotel getting wrecked, the wedding ruined, and Kayla and Tom getting
kicked out.
Knowing that it is their fault the wedding was ruined, Tom and Jerry finally put their
differences aside and work together to fix everything, fix up everything.
They pursue Preta on an electric skateboard and aerial drone and lure her to Ben, which
results in the wedding being held at Central Park, better than originally planned.
Preta and Ben open up with each other, while Kayla, along with Linda Perrybottom, the woman
from which she took the resume, get jobs at the hotel.
As the film ends, the wedding continues until a mashup caused by Jerry reignites his longtime
battle with Tom.
Did you see the post-credit scene?
Because I didn't even know there was one.
Which one?
It says, in a post-credit scene, Ben finds he is being charged full price for both weddings.
That sucks.
I did not see that one.
Yeah, because I even fast-forwarded through the credits just to make sure I didn't miss
anything.
I guess I fast-forwarded too fast.
Maybe it was at the very end.
Or did you go to the very end?
I thought I did, but I guess not.
No, well.
Weird.
It doesn't really sound like we missed that much.
It's not really critical to the story.
Yeah.
Which, speaking of this story, it was okay.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I feel, at least to me, I feel it's kind of hard to come up
with a decent story for a Tom and Jerry movie.
I mean, they've struggled in the past.
Insert, you know, the Tom and Jerry Wizard of Oz, Tom and Jerry Willy Wonka, Tom and
Jerry literally are in every single old-time movie.
So yeah, Tom and Jerry doesn't work as a movie, unfortunately.
I can definitely groove you on that one.
It really only works as a, how long were the shorts?
Like 15 minutes?
Sometimes even shorter than that.
Yeah.
Like the whole episode, I think the episodes were made up of four different bits.
And so it's 20 minutes, four, yeah, so like the overall show is about half an hour with
like a break in the middle for commercials and it would play two bits, commercial, two
bits.
So you're looking at maybe 10 minutes per, or not 10, like five, six minutes per bit.
Yeah, that works so much better.
It does, honestly.
And I've given this a lot of thought as to if I would actually enjoy this.
And I think I might have this animation style with smaller bits.
Ooh, yes.
Just like classic Tom and Jerry bits just animated in this style.
I can definitely agree with that.
Cause I actually, yeah, like we'll get to the animation and effects, but overall the
animation was actually really good, at least to me.
Yeah.
Like Tom, there's, with Tom and Jerry, it's not about the story.
We're there for the mindless violence.
Yeah.
And you know, Caleb brought up a very good point after we both finished watching this
movie.
And he said that after he finished, he felt that the movie was, what'd you say, was too
light on?
I forget the exact word.
It was, I felt like all the, so that the hits, I felt they were just, they were very light.
They felt almost soft in a way.
Yes.
And then I told Caleb, and we absolutely both agree that in this day and age, even what
they pulled off in this movie with Tom and Jerry, you know, like getting after each other,
the smacking and the clunking, all of that shit, it's going to piss some people off.
It's going to piss off Karen's.
It's going to piss off snowflakes.
Someone is going to find a reason to be like, oh, this is too violent for kids.
Like, it's okay.
What the hell do you expect?
I'm going to give them a jolly old middle finger and be, what the hell did you expect
from Tom and Jerry?
That is literally the whole plot of Tom and Jerry.
They're a cat and a mouse and they do not like each other that much.
Yeah.
They beat each other up.
This is how the show works.
That is exactly how the show works.
And when I say it, like there were some decent hits in this where like, I think there was
a bit where Tom hits butch the dog in the head and he has his little like goose egg
that appears.
Yes, that was funny.
That was fantastic.
Yeah.
But it's like even that, it felt light.
Yeah.
Like it felt like, I don't know, like an easily fixable thing.
If you want, like I sent Rose a video afterward of a compilation of all of the hits and punches
and just all of the damage that happened in the old Tom and Jerry cartoons.
It feels heavy.
Laughing my ass off by the way.
Oh, hands down.
And I wish that we got that in this movie.
Yeah, like I'm trying to think, like for instance, like there's a bit where in the old cartoon
where Tom has his hand on like a mouse trap and then it snaps on his hand and he like
screams, like does his normal like, like scream and like flips out.
Any hit like that, it didn't have that like that level of impact.
It was just very like a quick little pshh and then he was just like, did a little freak
out.
It just, it didn't feel like it had much weight to it.
It was like the same bits.
There was only like one where I like genuinely laughed because it felt like it, it got the
closest to the Tom and Jerry humor and it's when Tom and Jerry are on the piano, Jerry
just like punches Tom in the face.
And I think what made it not land as hard as like the other ones did, like in the original,
is when he punched Tom, it's like Tom's head kind of spun around and then like his lips
kind of went around his head in like the old like cartoony fashion.
But in the Tom and Jerry cartoon way back when, when that would happen, like you could
feel a freaking weight to it.
There was just like BOP!
There wasn't like a cartoony spin and like the lips going around and, oh, dropped my
phone.
There wasn't that weight or that weight and that's like what I felt made the jokes land
in Tom and Jerry.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Although I'll have to admit, I did like the opening with them in a central park with Tom
pretending to be blind and Jerry, wasn't he just like dancing for money?
Yeah.
I liked that.
I thought it was pretty funny.
It was a good bit.
Like they do plenty of bits where it's like that, where it's not quite all physical.
It's a lot of situational humor.
Yeah.
Like, I'm trying to think of one.
There's, okay, so there's one where Tom is at like some sort of music center and he's
performing and he's playing the piano and like really like beautifully.
And then he, like Jerry is sleeping inside the piano.
And so it's like making, like while he's doing all these crazy things, it's like bumping
Jerry around and then Jerry like gets pissed off.
He gets like booted out of the piano and then he like climbs back up, goes to the side of
the piano.
And so you see Tom just like still playing the piano super elegantly, like nose turned
up and everything.
And then he, while he's playing, he like looks over to the side and sees Jerry standing there
still with like kind of nosed up.
And then you see Jerry just grab the cover and slam it on Tom's fingers.
That shit is hilarious.
And then like all throughout this, like the music changes up, but you, gosh, like I love
that bit, but it's just the situational humor worked like that because it was Tom and Jerry
like trying to get at each other while they were trying to do stuff.
But it's just, I, they could have thrown in a little bit more.
I would have killed it with this movie.
Like I straight, like same resources.
I feel like I could have knocked this one out of the park, given us the old classic
Tom and Jerry.
Like, yes, the Karens would have been at my door, but I wouldn't give two shits because
I know I released a good Tom and Jerry movie.
Yeah.
Anyway, so we ended up scoring the story at a 73.5, which it's above average slightly.
Yeah.
That truly is what the story is.
Like I said, I feel it's very hard to make a, or give a plot line for a Tom and Jerry
movie.
What they gave us was like decent, but I mean, it was nothing I really cared about.
Yeah.
They, I think that this, I hope this movie is successful.
I don't hope, I don't wish any movie to not be successful, but I wish, I hope that this
movie does okay, but I feel what would have thrown this over the top would have been getting
like, let's see, like what's an average, how long was this movie?
Hour and a half?
40.
Hour 40.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I would have gotten a team given each team like 20 minutes.
So you could get six or seven bits or yeah, wait 20 minutes then.
Yeah.
I would have given each team about 20 minutes.
Okay.
I would have done seven teams.
So it would come to an hour and 40 and given them free reign to do whatever with Tom and
Jerry in those 20 minutes.
If you want to tell a story, tell a story.
If you want needless violent, needlessly violent humor, do that.
But it just, I think that would have worked a little bit better, at least for me being
a Tom and Jerry fan.
I can agree with that.
Yeah.
Like throw in the fan service, throw in Butch the dog, throw in the back alley cats, throw
in fricking Jerry's nephew.
Oh yeah, I forgot about him.
Yeah, like hell you could even go as far as just recreating one.
That's true.
Pick two or three of the most famous Tom and Jerry bits, like the golf bit, the fricking
crazy piano performance bit.
I'm trying to think of another one.
This is a tough one.
There's just so many good bits.
Maybe the three musketeers bit, do you remember that one?
I think I do.
I swear I've seen it.
It wasn't quite the musketeers, but it was.
There was no Mickey Mouse in the three musketeers.
No, it was Jerry and then his little nephew, and his nephew wanted to be a musketeer, and
so he has this little sword.
Then he goes around and jabs Tom with the damn little sword, and he's just like, we
miss you pussy cat.
That's his whole thing.
Tom even takes a little fricking teapot and slams it over him.
Then you hear from the teacup, he's like, we miss you pussy cat.
That's funny.
I love that one.
If you were to recreate those, that would be perfect.
That would be.
Oh my gosh, that's fantastic.
Then do a few original ones.
Why not?
Hell, if you want fricking celebrities in it, throw some celebrities in there.
There we go.
It could have been done better.
Tom and Jerry does not work as a feature length film.
Unfortunately not.
In any feature length film.
I dare any of you to send us a decent Tom and Jerry feature length movie.
Not saying this one wasn't decent.
It was his height.
Anyway, so like we said, story 73.5.
Moving on to writing, it's a little bit weaker, but it's sitting at a 70.
Okay, I'll give them this.
Every word that they wrote for, what was it?
Wow.
Michael Peña's character?
Pretty fricking funny.
His writing was great.
You thought so?
I thought he got annoying.
I didn't.
I thought he was, I actually really liked the writing for him.
It was some of like the other characters, like honestly, like some of the writing for
like Chloe Grace Moretz character was a little off in some parts.
I don't know, what do you think?
Yeah, I thought she was, I felt like she was okay.
There was a lot, like there's just cheesiness all around, but Michael Peña's character
got annoying.
Maybe it's just because it's Michael Peña, but I loved him.
I loved the writing for his character.
I feel like they wasted Michael Peña in this movie.
I feel like you said that a lot about some actors in this movie.
Do I care Ken Jeong?
Oh my gosh.
Oh, we'll get into that.
That's the reason I gave it, actually, what did I end up giving it?
I gave it fairly not actually, okay, yeah.
A majority of the reason that I docked it was because of that.
Fair enough.
Absolutely fair enough.
Yeah.
Eww.
But yeah, writing wise, it was just, ehh.
It wasn't anything super amazing.
No.
It was just very average.
I felt very bland at times.
There was a few funny little bits that they would say, but it was just not scripted well.
No, unfortunately not.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I think even the back alley cats were freaking wasted in this.
Like, they seemed like thugs.
For real though.
Yeah.
For what?
They were on screen for what, 20 seconds?
And I feel that even includes the time when they were in the pound.
Yeah.
Like, they felt like thugs.
They should have thrown in a bit where they're getting bushwhacked.
Yeah.
Like, just something.
It was just dumb.
When they were on screen, I'm just like, ehh.
And I usually like the back alley cats.
I like a lot of the bits that they pull off with them.
I actually really enjoy.
But at least, or in the cartoons, in the cartoons I really enjoy them.
But in this, it was just, they felt like thugs.
And it was like, it sucked.
It felt like they put them in there just because they felt they had to.
Yeah, absolutely.
Same way, like the same could be said for Butch.
Yeah.
Unfortunately.
Oh, yeah.
Like, literally, his only standout moments are when, yeah, he gets bonked on the head
by Tom when they first get to the hotel.
And then when that whole fiasco happens with him, Tom, and Jerry, and then Michael Peña's
character that literally destroys the hotel.
That's literally all, those are the biggest character moments that he gets.
And they're not even really character moments.
They're just moments that happen with his character.
Or that his character is involved in.
Yeah, and it's kind of dumb.
One thing I wish that they would explain a little bit better is whenever the animals
got into, like, especially Tom and Jerry, when they got into a fight, it created like
some sort of vacuum where it would suck in all of the animals.
Yeah, that was something.
Like, what the hell kind of bullshit is that?
Cartoon logic.
Yeah, it's cartoon stupidness.
But yeah, I think a 70 is more than fair.
I can agree with that.
Honestly, I would go a little bit lower personally, but...
Like what would you go to personally?
I don't know.
I'd go to like a 67.
Okay.
You want to go down to a 67?
Yeah, why not?
Alright.
Alright, 67 it is.
Alright, next up we got acting.
So we scored this as 72.5.
Tom and Jerry were outstanding.
Bravo.
Yeah I feel like they're the majority of the reason that this got as high as it did.
I can agree with that.
But no, I didn't really grade Tom and Jerry.
No, I didn't either.
I liked Michael Penya's character, but Caleb is not the biggest fan of him.
He made me laugh quite a bit.
I love Michael Penya.
Didn't care for his character.
I know he's supposed to be kind of like the asshole character, but I disliked him in a
not good way.
Fair.
I liked Chloe Grace Moretz in this.
I've seen her in better.
But overall, I think she did a decent job.
It's been a while since I've seen her.
How about you?
I feel like it's been a really long time since I've seen her.
Yeah, you never see her in movies anymore.
Which sucks because she's a decent actress.
I really like her.
Yeah, she's an amazing actress.
Honestly, I felt like she did a better job in the first kick ass than she did in this
movie.
I can't really argue that.
Dude, I liked her better in If I Stay than this.
Oh my gosh, I love that movie.
Oh, good.
Okay, I'm not the only one.
That's a really good love story movie.
Yeah, but that's setting the bar high.
I feel like saying that she was better in kick ass set the bar really low.
She was young.
Yeah.
It felt like that level of acting from her.
Like very cheesy.
Did it feel like she didn't want to be a part of the movie?
What do you think?
The performance didn't really match what was going on, I feel.
I can agree with that.
If you think about all of the crazy shit that was happening, they acted so calm to everything.
It's just like all the freaking animals are in some sort of tornado and they're just like,
wait.
No, you'd be flipping out.
Oh yeah.
The first thing I would flip out is I'd be holy shit, an animated cat and a mouse.
And then I feel like the extras, so like the head of the hotel, his acting was...
I liked his acting better than the couple's, honestly.
Yeah, the couple's were garbage.
Yeah, the fiance was annoying.
Did not like him at all.
Yeah.
What's his name?
Colin Jost or something like that?
I think so.
He's from SNL and he sucked.
Straight up.
Yeah, he was not bringing any level of game to this performance.
Nope.
And what was her name?
Preida?
I think so.
I don't think she was bringing her A game either.
I mean, she was way better than he was though, so at least there's that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, okay, when he had the drone, for instance, and it was like chasing someone, he was just
like, don't look at its eyes or don't look at it in its lens or whatever the hell he
said.
It was just so dumb.
I feel like he should have been panicking a lot more, but I don't know.
It was just not good.
This is not an Oscar worthy movie whatsoever.
No, not one bit.
We gave it a little bit, barely a little bit lower than the story.
72.5, which if like you can only duck for the extras so much because they are ultimately
extras, the big heavy hitters of this movie are Chloe Grace Moretz and Michael Pena.
Yeah.
And they did okay.
What was the name of that other hotel worker?
Was it like Molly or some shit like that?
Like the creepy one?
Oh, wasn't it Amy?
It might have been Amy.
I freaking loved her.
Yeah, she felt good.
Yeah, she did really good.
Like what the hell happened with everyone else?
Yeah, me buddy.
I want to see.
But 72.5, it's the actors.
I feel like you could have gotten a really good movie out of them.
Maybe not the extras per se, but the top build.
I think you could have gotten a really good movie out of.
It's just unfortunate that the movie we got was Tom and Jerry.
Oh, Joy.
That was her name.
Oh yeah, that's right.
All right, next up we got character development, which is going back on the lower side.
We ended up giving it a 65.
Because no character really goes anywhere in this movie.
Yeah, this one's tough to grade because it's like Michael Pena's character wasn't enough
of a character to grade for character development, which I don't think he really had any.
No, because he's an asshole and then you never think like they played off as like, oh, he's
a what was it?
Like okay, wait, no, that totally was not going to go the way I played it off.
He goes from an asshole to apparently a good guy, but let's face it, I'm sure he still
hates Chloe Grace Moretz's character and is out to get her fired.
Oh yeah, easily.
Then Chloe Grace Moretz's character, she had a little bit of an arc, kind of, but not really.
She was just someone that was kind of down on her luck, wanted a shot at or to prove
herself in a job that's like worth giving a shot for or that's worth putting forth effort
towards instead of she was doing some sort of like Uber for laundry before and then she
was out of thing.
Yeah, and then she wanted to work in this hotel, but she didn't have a decent enough
resume and then she like stole it and she's just like, I just need a shot.
And so she got her shot and just proved what she was already worth.
I don't feel like that that's much of a development arc.
Yeah, I really wasn't.
Yeah, and then Tom and Jerry, they didn't really learn anything.
They were fighting and then they decided to team up for a little bit and then they went
right back to fighting.
That was honestly the best arc of the movie.
Yeah.
So we ended up giving this a 65.
I feel like this is mainly due to Chloe Grace Moretz's character.
Yeah, and like a little like I think she got the 60 and then Tom and Jerry got that extra
five.
Fair enough.
I can agree with that.
Yeah, it's just there's not a whole lot that can be said with a movie like this.
So unfortunately, it didn't work out and I feel like could they have done like if you
think about it, could they have done any sort of character development with these guys?
With Tom and Jerry or Chloe?
Let's go with Chloe because I think Tom and Jerry, it's really hard to give them character
arcs.
I don't know, like imagine if like she actually told the hotel owner before she hit the fan
that hey, it's actually not my resume, but you've seen what I can do.
Give me a shot.
Right.
Hmm.
It's kind of really hard with it.
I'm trying to think of what would.
I mean, you could really go out of the normal and like have her like not get a second chance
and get fired from the hotel and then just imagine if the movie ended with that.
Yeah, that'd be sad.
See, kids, you don't lie with your resume.
It's not yours.
Don't turn it in.
Yeah, I think maybe an arc that would have worked a little bit better would be if maybe
she instead of her being like, oh, down on her luck, knowing that she's a good worker
or whatever, instead of that, maybe showing that she's not really all that motivated.
Show that she has some street smarts.
She has some quick thinking about her.
She just doesn't like push herself towards greatness or anything.
And then maybe she gets kicked out of her home and is kind of doing the same thing, kind
of like scamming her way into the hotel.
They're offering or she overhears that they're going that they need someone to get the mouse.
And then they would end up she like makes a deal to like get a job out of it if she
does.
Tom and Jerry come in, jack shit up.
Shocker there.
Yeah, and then it's like that was the her motivation to start working harder and better.
And then she like gets to that point where she actually is doing really well and performing
going above and beyond for something like I feel like that would have been a lot better.
Not perfect, because children's movie, but definitely better than what we got.
Yeah, but when it comes to a children's movie, I think you could learn something maybe.
So that one's sitting at a sixty five.
Moving on over to effects.
This one is going to be our highest grade so far.
This is sitting at a seventy nine.
So so what did you think of this this animation?
I honestly really dug it.
I mean, I know, like, I'm sure people are going to be like, well, it didn't even look
like they were actually there.
Well, yeah, I'm sorry.
I don't expect Tom and Jerry in the real world to look like Alvin and the Chipmunks or Yogi
Bear.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to see that shit with Tom and Jerry.
I still want them to look animated, but kind of like updated CGI animated.
And I feel for what they set out to do.
They did a really good job and they pulled it off quite well.
I agree.
I absolutely agree.
I was I wasn't 100 percent sure that this was going to look as good as it did.
When I first heard that they were doing live action Tom and Jerry.
But I was really impressed.
I was really impressed with everything that they were able to do.
I loved that, like one aspect to it.
I love that they didn't only animate Tom and Jerry, that they animated every animal.
Yes.
Like they did the pigeons.
They did the dogs.
They did all of the cats, elephants, tigers, like all of the animals.
There was there was no like live action animal.
They were all animated.
And I think that that adds a level of realness to it almost like I think like we've complained
about this before setting up the rules of the universe and they set it up that all of
the animals are are look animated.
So it works.
Yeah.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I really appreciated that.
Human wise, I think the interactions with the humans and Tom and Jerry or any of the
animals, I feel like that could have looked a little bit better.
I can agree with that.
I mean, the way I look at it, sometimes I feel it's hard knowing where you're supposed
to look when the thing you're talking to is actually not there.
Yeah.
I feel like that's really tough.
Because you never know, like in post-production, they could like completely change Tom or Jerry's
angle to where like, like say like Chloe, Grace Moritz is supposed to be looking forward
at Tom.
But yet they slightly altered it to where he's a little towards the left.
And so it looks like Chloe's only looking at like half of him.
Right.
Yeah, it's I think it was a tough sell.
But that's honestly what brought it down mostly for me.
I can understand that.
A lot of the human interaction was just not good.
And I feel like a lot of the human stunt work also looked a little off.
I told Caleb about this, but there's this part where like it's the whole like whirlpool
of like Tom, Jerry and Spike.
Right?
Yeah.
So they get like sucked into a whirlwind because they're chasing after each other.
And Michael Pena's character, who was walking Spike, gets sucked in as well.
And the animation on the leash that he's holding looks so freaking bad.
Like oh my, it like and I know it's not supposed to look exactly realistic, but the movement
is so off.
It looks so jagged.
It looks bad.
Yeah, it looks so bad.
And I think that's why it's sitting at a seventy nine, not quite sitting at an eighty.
Yeah, I don't think it's quite as bad as a seventy eight, though.
I can like like we said, I enjoyed the Tom and Jerry aspect to it.
I love that they went with a little bit more realism with the things that they were in
interacting with, like Jerry's house or when he was setting up his living space.
All of that looked fairly real.
Yeah.
Had a little bit of an animated flair to it.
But yeah, but it worked.
It felt like he was interacting with that environment.
Unlike when humans were interacting with him.
Yeah.
So I think seventy nine is more than fair.
Definitely agree.
Yeah.
Next up, we got music.
Which we have sitting at a seven.
It was nothing special.
No, not really.
Like honestly, I don't even remember really anything, any music from this movie or like
the movie in itself.
I remember all the music that played in the trailer, but not in the actual movie.
Yeah.
I think the reason that it didn't get a six is because they played a lot.
They did play a lot of music.
It was a lot of like hip hop music and just like a wide variety of music, but nothing
stood out.
No, it wasn't like there was some blow away performance blow away song or blow away score.
It was slightly above average with music.
It was it was OK.
Tom.
I mean, Tom's performance, his vocal performance was quite good.
Jolly good show.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think of anything else like regarding music, but I can't think of anything.
I do feel that this is just an audio issue and I guess that you could throw this into
acting if you wanted to.
But I'm making it an audio issue.
There was a lot of times where the other animals I couldn't really understand because they
was talking with such like a a rappy voice.
I can agree with that.
It like sounded like they went and got some like crazy rapper to voice some of these side
creatures and it just it was difficult to understand them because they were talking
in such like a thick gangster like.
I want to say the main alley cat was actually voiced by a rapper.
That wouldn't surprise me.
What?
Do you remember the main alley cat's name?
I have no idea what his name is.
Because I remember like the guy like even talked about it.
He's like, oh, yeah, I'm playing the main alley cat and I'm like, hey, shocker, they
cast a rapper to play.
Nothing against the actual, you know, rapper was I just, you know, like wasn't really surprised
when he came out.
Yeah.
But you just you just need to speak a little bit more clearly than you usually do.
Yes.
A little bit.
Like you can't talk like you're on a fricking rap album.
Oh, butch.
That's his name.
Wait, butch.
Butch is the dog.
I thought Spike was the dog.
Oh, oh, my gosh.
That's what we're.
Yeah.
Spike is the dog.
Butch.
How the hell did I mix those two up?
I mean, you got I don't know.
OK.
Anything we said about the dog before or anything we said about Butch before this point, just
replace it with Spike.
We're probably going to catch shit for that.
We you're catching catch and shit for that.
I just want along with it.
Hey, this is a team effort, asshole.
Oh, man.
You didn't correct me.
I know.
That's because I honestly didn't didn't even know that you were wrong.
Oh, shit.
Anyway, that aside, the music was fairly good.
Personally not the biggest fan of like the rap or hip hop music.
I mean, but I feel like maybe it worked.
It did.
I feel whenever they're trying to bring a classic cartoon to a new generation, they
kind of have to go with like what's popular.
And honestly, rap will never die.
And so.
Right.
Honestly, I don't feel like Tom and Jerry are.
Our characters best represented by.
Rap.
Oh, yeah.
Or hip hop or whatever.
I think that they are best represented by classical even like if you wanted to go a
little bit poppy with it, like a pop classical music.
Yeah, I can agree with that.
I think if they would have done maybe a little bit of a more modernized version of classical
music, I think that would have worked really well, especially knowing the history of these
characters.
It's true.
So, like we said, music sitting at a seven.
So costumes.
Oh, sorry.
Go ahead.
No, just really quickly.
Yeah, you were right about like the rappers, a singer, songwriter.
Yeah, Nicky Jam played the voice of Butch.
I have no idea who Nick.
I don't know either, but I guess he's a songwriter and rapper right now.
Or well known.
OK, cool.
He played the voice of Butch.
All right.
Moving on over to costumes.
We ended up giving this a six.
Not really anything special about these costumes.
No.
Yeah, not really.
I mean, I'm not going to lie.
Chloe Grace Moretz did look good in her hotel uniform.
I'm just saying.
Yeah, but the hotel uniforms were just honestly, if whatever you describe the hotel uniforms
looking like, you're right.
Like, there's no way to get it wrong.
No.
It's just it was average.
It was it fit.
There wasn't really any costumes that are costume that blew me out of the water, which
is disappointing.
I feel like it should have gotten a little bit higher because of the like the Bollywood
style wedding.
Yeah, but real though.
But yeah, none of those didn't me out of the water.
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like with like Bollywood style costumes, like those usually like blow me
away and these were just very underwhelming.
Yeah, I guess the whole budget went to animating those elephants.
Yeah, probably.
All right, so yeah, costumes are sitting at a six.
So last up, we're going to do personal grade.
So Rose, I'll let you take this one.
So overall, I actually enjoyed this movie.
Growing up, I did not watch Tom and Jerry a lot as probably other kids did.
I'm sure I'm sure Caleb watched it a lot more than I did, but I did watch it on occasion.
So of course, it's awesome seeing these characters again.
Love seeing them together.
I just wish that they were in a better story and a little bit better of a movie.
But overall, I had a good time.
I'm not mad.
Yeah, I'm not mad that I watched it.
I really was never, I really never got bored.
I had a decent time.
Seventy five.
Geez.
Well, now I feel like an asshole.
How low did you go?
A lot lower than you.
Yeah, but see, like I said, I feel you watched Tom and Jerry a lot more.
And so you kind of expect a lot more from these characters.
Right.
And I feel like I do.
I did.
I feel like there was a certain I had to really consider what my I was going to personally
give the scores because I felt like the first go round when I was thinking through the scores,
I was being really harsh.
And then I would like how to kind of take it back a little bit and be like, OK, you
can't let your personal feelings get in on this until the personal grade, because now
I'm letting it fly.
I actually am at a seven or a sixty eight.
OK, see, I can completely understand that.
Yeah, I I like the movie.
It was OK.
It had some Tom and Jerry esque scenes.
I'm trying to think of OK.
So when he sees Jerry in the hotel and he's trying to get across to it.
And he keeps falling down the like on the building and like, oh, yeah, off the cable
wires.
Yeah.
Every time he fell, I was it was pretty good.
Like there was a couple of ones that I was like, OK, that one felt a little dumb.
But there was like a couple where it got me like really good.
I did not expect them to actually have him hit the ground.
I was like, holy shit.
Yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of Tom and Jerry bits where they do that.
And I love them each and every one.
But I'm sitting at a sixty eight just because I didn't think the story was very good and
I wasn't really impressed with the writing.
The animation was was good.
I did have issues with it.
Like we discussed, but it's just the writing was is what killed it.
I feel like there was a lot of choppy and cheesy lines and I feel like they wasted some
good acting.
Yeah.
And and like I said, Tom and Jerry, I don't feel works in a movie setting whatsoever.
It really doesn't.
They just need to bite the bullet and do 20 minute bits, even if you didn't even want
to do that.
Like you could just you could split it.
Like what did I say?
You could do six or seven 20 minute bits or you could do 14 10 minute bits.
That could work.
Yeah.
And I think that would be way more entertaining than what we got.
Yeah.
Well, maybe in another decade, we'll get another try at a Tom and Jerry full motion picture
film.
Gosh, I would love to pitch to someone like an idea for Tom and Jerry.
Just go like if you're going to go with Tom and Jerry, frickin hit the gas.
Go super hard with Tom and Jerry.
Yeah, just.
Go.
Like you can't be so concerned about what everyone's going to think, because as the
frickin creator said, like, thank you to the question of the week that we got.
So we got to learn a little bit.
It was needless violence back then.
Yeah.
And people didn't like it.
People thought it was excessive.
Yeah.
That's what made it awesome.
So I feel like they could have done much better.
And if they wanted to, I think they could have gone a who framed Roger Rabbit route
and kind of done like the animated on top of the real world and try to do some like
practical sets.
That would have been super cool.
Yeah.
And then maybe like a background story.
I feel like this story would have worked better in the background, but it felt like this.
It felt like a.
A hotel wedding movie with Tom and Jerry thrown in it.
But you need a Tom and Jerry movie with a hotel wedding in the background.
If you're going to go with a story route.
Otherwise I don't think it works.
Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
Yeah, like I feel like they could have shortened it.
Like what if it was like 20 minute bit where it was like Tom and Jerry with the little
bit of a hotel and then like commercials, quote unquote, commercials of other Tom and Jerry
bits.
I feel that would have worked out quite well.
Right.
Anyway, so like I said, I'm sitting at a 68 and averaging that out.
That brings us to a seventy one point five for our personal grade, which concludes this
breakdown and the final score for Tom and Jerry is.
A C minus.
I can definitely agree with that.
Yeah it is sitting at a seventy two point nine percent.
All right.
Yeah so it is just barely missing a C.
Like one more like point one percent higher and it would be at the the C mark.
Which category did we lower?
I forgot.
Writing.
Yeah.
OK.
So yeah, if we wouldn't have lowered it, it would have been a C.
Actually, let's see.
So if I bump it up to a seventy.
Actually yeah, it would have bumped it up to a C.
But we went with a sixty seven.
Yeah, sixty seven.
I feel it's more of a C minus movie, even though I gave it a seventy five.
Yeah.
Oh actually.
I'll kill a budget sub.
That's a deal.
Frickin' ball sack.
No!
Sorry, I'm using a Bluetooth keyboard because my wired one took a shit on me.
So it was giving me issues.
But yeah, so writing was a sixty seven.
So yeah, that would have bumped us up.
That would have bumped us up to a C, but unfortunately didn't quite make it.
It's more of a C minus movie.
It is.
So comparing this to other C minus movies.
Let's see.
I forget how little C minus movies we do.
Let's see.
This is one percent or almost two percent higher than Countdown.
Oh yeah, I can absolutely agree with that.
It's almost three percent higher than Cats.
Shocker.
I just like that it was Cats.
It is point three percent higher than Dark Phoenix.
Yeah, that's fair.
And two point eight percent higher than The Last Jedi.
Yep, yeah.
I can't argue any of these.
So that's where it's sitting.
That's all of our C minus movies.
We only have like four, five.
Holy shit.
I thought we had more.
Yeah the C minus is an exclusive club.
It's really a C plus C that's like the majority of what we do.
Or when it comes to C's.
I think our biggest grade is the B plus.
I think that's what we have most of.
But yeah, so sitting at a C minus.
It's not a horrible movie.
It's fun.
If you want to go see it with some children, want to watch it for yourselves, there's something
to take from it.
It's not bad by any means.
It's just critically speaking, it's not great.
Yeah.
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Deuces.
So long.
Man, it's getting worse and worse.
I wouldn't say worse and worse.
I felt like that one was just a little lazy.
Sorry, man.
Sorry.
I failed you.