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What is up bros?

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Welcome to the All Bros Podcast.

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I'm Caleb.

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And I'm Jonathan.

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And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies but

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also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.

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This week on the podcast we only have one, well technically two figures to talk about

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in Funko Focus from the new Loki series.

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In 4K Spotlight we have a classic coming to just Blu-ray right?

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Well 4K.

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4K.

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4K, yeah.

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And then in Through the Wall we got a couple killer trailers this week.

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We got a few so it was kind of hard to narrow it down.

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So hard.

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Well I mean not for me but you know.

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And not really for me because I don't know why I said it was difficult.

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If it weren't for the one that got dropped last night it probably would have been hard

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for me but yeah.

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So yeah we got a couple new trailers to talk about and then we will be getting into this

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week's headliner where we will be breaking down Spiral from a Book of Saw.

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I always forget to call it that.

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Honestly it's just Spiral.

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I'm not putting a Book of Saw in the description.

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That'd be stupid.

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But hey you gotta clarify that it's a spinoff it's not a part of the original series.

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Yeah.

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Or original timeline.

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Well yeah.

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I think whichever way you do it.

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Anyway without further ado let's get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Alright first up in Funko Focus we got a new figure a couple new figures coming out from

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the Loki line.

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Both of them are Lady Loki.

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And these are so freaking cool.

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These are very cool and you know what I gotta give Funko props for not making because the

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variant is a Walmart exclusive I gotta give them props for not making it a chase.

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Like good on you Funko.

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Yeah really good.

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So they have two figures.

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Both of them are the exact same but they have a Walmart wait is it Walmart exclusive?

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Oh yeah that's Walmart.

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Yeah so they have a Walmart exclusive where her eyes are green.

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Her eyes and the blade are green.

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That she's holding.

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Super bitchin figure.

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Did they just put the variant?

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Wait what?

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Did they just put the variant?

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Because I know you haven't seen episode 3 yet.

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Yeah well they just spoiled it for me then.

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Yeah because they put her name.

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Okay so yeah they put Sylvie.

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Alright I don't think that's too much of a spoiler.

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Like just her name.

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I don't know man I feel the whole episode is now spoiled for me.

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Bastards.

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So yeah they did have this whole thing it was kind of not really a leak but someone

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figured that out.

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If you watch the international credits they had Sylvie as the name of that character in

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the.

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Oh shit.

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Yeah but they had the variant in every other title.

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Someone at Marvel is getting fired.

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Or someone from internationally.

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I think it was the German.

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Well whoever does the German credits is getting fired.

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But in episode 3 it was basically just confirmed that she goes by Sylvie.

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So not much of a spoiler just like a little one.

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And it just kind of also confirms everyone's suspicions that maybe she's Enchantress.

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She is a variant of Loki.

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from Loki's.

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Yeah I think everyone's just assuming that she's going to be the Enchantress.

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So is she gonna like use her body to do her magic stuff like Cara Delevingne does in the

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Suicide Squad?

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I pray not.

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That would be so freaking stupid.

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Oh shit.

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Ugh but yeah so just a minor spoiler for you but everything else I think everything else

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is hidden enough that you shouldn't get anything spoiled for you.

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Okay good.

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But yes freaking badass figure.

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I love it.

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I know that there's going to be a couple more figures coming out for her.

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I'm assuming if they don't that's just absurd.

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It's a missed opportunity.

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Yeah well I don't even know what they're going to do with her and so I'm just speculating

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that they're going to have a couple more figures.

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That's fair.

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Yeah as long as they do release a couple more I think I'm going to wait but I do want a

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Lady Loki figure.

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So I mean I guess it's a good thing that you don't really want the Walmart one because

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it's already out of stock.

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Are you shitting me?

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Like you guys.

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That page doesn't even give me like an opportunity to even like decide whether or not I want

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something.

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It's just like I don't know if I want it and then I click on it and it's like well well

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may this be the decision for me.

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Oh wait it's actually.

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Oh dude I mean I'm not you know going to get it but I clicked on it at the perfect moment

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because right now it's available for preorder and saying there's only two left.

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Well that doesn't give me a whole lot of time.

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I'm recording a podcast now.

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Assholes.

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Sorry bro.

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Did you really want it that bad?

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No I think a better figure is coming down the line.

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I hope.

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Hopefully this ends up being one of those Walmart exclusives that's really hard to not

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find.

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I feel for the most part Walmart exclusive Marvel figures are they're pretty easy to

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come by.

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So I have high hopes just in case this is the best one.

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But I'm holding out.

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I think there's a but I feel it in my in my bones that there's a better one.

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You feel it in your belly.

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I felt in my jellies.

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I wasn't going for that quote but okay.

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You know that's from.

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I actually don't.

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I was quoting the Santa Claus and Rise of the Guardians.

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I was quoting Pikachu and Detective Pikachu.

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Oh yeah I forgot about that.

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Yeah he's just like I can feel in my jellies.

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I haven't seen that movie in so long I gotta watch that again.

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It's a good movie.

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It is.

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We recommend it.

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I think.

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I think that I think that I think that I gave it a decent score.

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Yeah I think we gave it a decent score.

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Anyway moving on to 4k spotlight.

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We have Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory coming out.

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We do and I'm going to smack.

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Oh I'm not going to smack but there was a missed opportunity for not doing a 4k steel

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book considering how beloved this film is and Caleb came up with an amazing idea for

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a steel book.

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Caleb let us know your amazing idea.

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Wait put me on the spot man.

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No you laugh at yourself but this is actually a great idea for a steel book.

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Okay so my idea was have the cover like the front and the back look like a Wonka bar.

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Like I know it would be like slightly compressed and stretched out but whatever.

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Make it look like a Wonka bar and then when you open it have it look like a golden ticket.

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It's so simple but it's perfect.

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Yeah especially for this movie I mean come on.

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Yeah I told them you know they could always do it for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

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but then he made it very clear don't waste it on that adaptation.

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Okay chill.

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You put a lot more attitude into that than I did.

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I did but you know I really wanted to so.

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I don't hate Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

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I don't love it but I don't hate it.

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But if you're going to do that idea for the design of a steel book you have to do it for

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the better one.

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That's what I was trying to get at.

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I wasn't trying to be a sassy little bitch about it.

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Okay so if that's the only set one for Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory any ideas

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for one for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

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That's another tough one.

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I think that one you could get away with making it look like the elevator.

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So maybe like the front have like obviously like Willy Wonka, Charlie and Uncle George

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and then on the back just like the back sides.

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I thought it was Grandpa Joe.

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Whatever.

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And then on the back like the same image just reversed so it's like the back of them but

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and then you can see all the buttons.

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Okay it's not a bad idea.

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And then the inside I have no idea.

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Maybe just the factory.

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Or how about the puppets melting.

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Oh yeah they did do that huh.

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No what about the image of the Oompa Loompa is all standing on the stands.

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Yeah yeah that's way better.

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There we go.

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Gosh I should I didn't find out who designs those and try to take their job.

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Dude I'd be so good at it.

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You would especially for the person that designed the Space Jam 4k steelbook yeah you need to

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take their place right now.

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What did they do?

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Wait the original Space Jam?

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Yeah literally so the front and back are a basketball court and then in the middle of

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the front is just a it's just a circle with Bugs Bunny and Michael Jordan and then on

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the back I think is a circle with the bad guys coming out of it.

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Dumb.

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It is so lazy and it looks like garbage.

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You know I'm actually going to say that better.

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GABBAGE.

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GABBAGE.

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GABBAGE.

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Dude that sucks.

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Like I hate when they freaking waste a steelbook.

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So we all know that one is going to be a shelf warmer.

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Although let's face it most Best Buy's hardly carry any physical media now so it's probably

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just going to be a website warmer.

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Probably that sounds better anyway.

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Yeah alright anything else in 4k that you want to talk about?

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No I got nothing.

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Alright let's move on to our Through the Wall where we're going to talk about a couple new

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trailers so let's start off I feel like we both have a decent amount to say about Halloween

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kills but Shang Chi just released another trailer and bro how freaking epic.

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They changed so much.

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So the 10 rings on the original comic book Mandarin they used to be legit just rings

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and then they would like glow and then shit could like you can make shit happen.

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And I think that they were so freaking smart going an alternate route with the rings and

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the rings are now like bracelets.

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Yeah they're freaking like sonic sized rings.

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And they do some crazy magic shit.

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You freaking that shot when literally the guy's arm in slow motion just grasps all of

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the rings onto one arm.

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I got Australian there for a minute.

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I gotta say I got freaking goosebumps because that looks so bitchin.

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Dude it looked freaking amazing.

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And we didn't get too much new stuff but we did get to see the dragon.

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That's true I thought that's what you were because Caleb watched this trailer before

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me and so he sent me a message saying hey you know like after you watch it let me know

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at the end is that what I think it is?

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And for a second I thought it was the dragon because I'm just like if that's the case I

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don't even know what the hell I'm supposed to be thinking that is.

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But no I was talking about the end end of this trailer which I mean whatever I'll freaking

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skip to it I don't give a shit.

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Sorry.

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Is like a boxing ring or not even a boxing ring it's just like a cage match and Abomination's

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freaking fighting in it.

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So people are saying that the one he's fighting is Wong.

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That's what I've been seeing too I mean it looks kind of like Wong but not too much.

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Yeah it's kind of a hard thing to tell.

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Yeah but bruh Abomination are you shitting me?

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I know I can't believe they're gonna bring him back.

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That is insane.

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Dude I didn't think we'd see him until freaking She-Hulk.

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Oh yeah I forgot that he's confirmed for that.

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Yeah I thought we weren't gonna see him again.

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Yeah we're gonna freaking see him before we see She-Hulk.

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Oh my gosh.

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I am so freaking pumped dude when I saw that I first watched it.

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So I first watched it on my phone and then I was just like after that scene I'm just

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like mm-hmm I'm gonna go watch it on my big TV.

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So I went and watched it on the big TV and paused it and I'm like that's freaking Abomination.

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It was like losing my mind.

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I didn't even like notice like until after like I think I saw it earlier today where

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someone's just like is that Wong?

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And I'm like oh I guess he was fighting someone.

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For some reason I think in my brain I just assumed it was Shang-Chi.

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No that's fair.

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This movie just got infinitely better.

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Like I already had high hopes.

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I already had high hopes but my expectations for this movie just skyrocketed.

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Like this is how you what did I say last time like one out of ten for for Shang-Chi.

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Didn't I say like eight?

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Yeah I think you were at an eight.

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Yeah this is how you freaking skyrocket me to a ten.

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Oh shit.

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I'm so freaking excited.

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I mean we get we got so much in this trailer.

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Oh we did but what I love is they still did not give away a lot of the plot which I love.

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Yeah that's that's gonna be awesome.

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Just learning more and more about the story.

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I think we're gonna get maybe a heavy story trailer down the line.

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Yeah I mean I I hope I mean I don't know considering it's coming out in September so we're only

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a couple months away.

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Oh true.

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Yeah I think I think we're I think I'm gonna put money down.

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I think we're getting another like a story trailer down the line.

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That's fair.

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All I'm hoping is that we do not see any more of that abomination stuff.

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Yeah I hope not either and let's hope that's like literally not let's hope that's not like

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half of the screen time right there that he's in it.

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I hope not.

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That would just be a waste.

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That would be some bullshit.

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But bruh.

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I am so excited.

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This looks like it's turning out to be incredible.

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Like we're gonna get to see a freaking magic dragon.

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We're gonna see we're gonna see Shang-Chi take the ten rings and one thing that I was

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I I said Shang-Chi his the one thing that was always missing from his costume at least

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in the the promotional images were his bracers and so I I'm now fully putting the money on

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on those becoming his bracers by the end of the movie.

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I would definitely say it's a good thing to put money on.

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Yeah this this movie is going to be the shit.

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I'm so freaking excited.

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I feel I'm not as excited as you are.

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I mean I'm still excited for it.

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I'm definitely of course going to go check it out opening weekend.

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It's freaking Marvel.

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But like as much as I really thought this was a really good trailer like my excitement

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level is still probably a seven.

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And I'm sorry to say that because it's Marvel but I feel like when it comes to you know

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like new Marvel properties it's not the trailer that sells me it's the movie that's going

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to sell me.

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And so once the movie actually finally arrives I'm sure I'm going to walk out of that that

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screening be like it was beautiful.

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Honestly like I understand.

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I don't agree with you but I understand.

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Well thank you for understanding.

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I get you.

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You're wrong but I get you.

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Yeah.

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Honestly I think I without Guardians of the Galaxy I don't know if I would have been this

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excited about Shang-Chi but it's just Marvel does new characters so well.

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It's true they do.

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They really do.

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Like I'm on cloud nine thinking that we're going to get all these new characters.

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Like I'm so excited to get introduced to Shang-Chi.

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I'm excited to be introduced to the Eternals.

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So all the movies like all the other movies I'm excited for it.

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I'm not as excited for them as I am these two because it's characters I know already.

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Yeah.

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I mean out of the two I'm definitely more excited for the Eternals even though we've

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only gotten one trailer for that movie.

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But I'm interested to see how much I feel Shang-Chi is going to surprise me.

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Yeah.

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I'm just hoping that Marvel got away from the choppy fighting.

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You and me both bro.

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If they can get away from that give us a crazy good kung fu action movie.

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That's it.

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That's the perfect Marvel movie right there.

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Agreed.

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Anyway that's all I got to say about Shang-Chi.

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You got anything else?

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No just I'm looking forward to it.

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I am.

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Alright next up Halloween Kills.

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So you want to tell the story of how this got released because this is freaking hilarious.

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I would love to.

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So yes okay so today is the 25th.

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On the 24th it was either I believe an AMC employee or an AMC manager but basically the

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story is with Fast and Furious 9 with the showings they were going to be showing either

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I can't remember if it was the full trailer or just a teaser for the full trailer of Halloween

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Kills.

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And it was only supposed to be in theaters just for if you went and saw Fast and Furious

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9 but whoever was working at AMC decided if that let's film it and release it online.

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And so they did.

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Freaking blew up everywhere.

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Literally because I'm on I've joined like two Halloween fan pages on Facebook and that's

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literally all that you could see.

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And people are just like stop posting this shit.

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It's going to get taken down.

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You know you're going to get deleted from the group yada yada yada.

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So this is happening like all day and finally towards the evening I saw someone on Twitter

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ask Jason Blum so now some asshole has leaked the trailer.

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When are you and Universal going to actually release it?

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And he's just like 630 pacific time and lo and behold last night they kind of had to.

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They released the trailer for Halloween Kills.

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They had to get ahead of this before it got more out of hand.

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They really had no other option.

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So I feel bad for Universal but I mean I'm glad that we got the trailer now instead of

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having to wait a week.

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Yeah honestly I told you this.

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What were they expecting?

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There's no way that they could show something like that.

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This would have happened with a freaking teaser too.

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That's true.

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That's very true.

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Whatever the hell that they would have done it would have gotten released.

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And you have to.

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You have to release it.

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I think you have a four to five hour window of being able to show something to the public

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in person before you have to post it online.

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No that's fair.

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Honestly yesterday it seemed between like 8 and noon people were saying oh leaked images

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from the trailer yada yada yada.

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It was like five images.

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It was like a picture of Lori, Karen yada yada yada.

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And then from like one o'clock on people were like oh my gosh the trailer leaked.

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The trailer leaked.

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Oh my gosh.

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And then people were like yada yada yada.

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And then yeah Universal just like son of a bitch.

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Yeah.

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But can we talk about this trailer?

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Holy shit.

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I don't think I should have been jumping that much for joy at someone murdering people.

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Let's just say when Michael Myers stabs a light bulb through a lady's neck I got a little

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too giddy.

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Bro it wasn't even that.

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It was the freaking tube lights.

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Oh yeah it was a tube light.

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He freaking cracked one of those in half and then freaking jabbed her.

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I'm like oh shit.

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Dude the best part is also like after he does that like it cuts to a scene of where like

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her husband is just laying on the is just sprawled on the kitchen table dead.

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I'm assuming he was already dead.

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And then you see Michael standing there and then he for I guess he's just like well I

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gotta make sure that he's dead and just freaking stabs him one last time.

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I know I mean say what you will about Michael Myers.

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He is thorough.

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Very thorough.

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Dude this was freaking brutal.

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Dude yeah like.

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Dude even the opening I mean the opening does spoil if you haven't seen Halloween 2018.

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So spoiler alert here.

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It does show how Michael Myers does escape the house.

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Yeah I noticed that too.

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I was a little bummed out about that.

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Yeah.

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Like I assumed it would have had something to do with the firefighters.

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Yeah.

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But I didn't need to know it was exactly like that.

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No I didn't either.

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But dude the moment when he steps out onto those steps and you just see the reaction

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in their eyes like the frickin fear you're like oh my god shit is about to go down.

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Dude and the first person view.

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Amazing shot.

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Yeah.

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Freaking Michael Myers killing someone with a buzz saw.

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I didn't think I'd ever see that.

427
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Yeah that was freaking awesome.

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Yeah so for those of you who haven't seen it this firefighter falls through the floor

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of the my or of Laurie's place.

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Yeah he falls through the floor.

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I'm assuming Michael bushwhacks him.

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Like yeah I would assume so.

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And then the other firefighters like give me your hand and so like Michael grabs him.

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I'm assuming gets pulled up Bushwax that guy Bushwax the firefighter in front of him.

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And then it just like goes on from there.

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And then someone tells Laurie hey Michael Myers got out.

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And Laurie's just literally like f this I'm done playing like evil dies tonight.

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Yeah and then then what's going to blow my mind is how the hell they stretch this out

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another movie.

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Well I mean you got to remember in Halloween 2 they did the same thing because it takes

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place the exact same night.

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Yeah well I could understand how no like I understand how this movie like is going to

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go.

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I don't know how they're going to extend this to a third one.

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Oh with Halloween ends.

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Yeah like I mean I would have been like okay like I understand this is another Laurie versus

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Michael movie.

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And I would have been like perfectly okay with that.

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But it wasn't like the way that it seems like it's going to turn out this is like the city

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against Michael Myers field.

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Yeah this is Haddonfield versus Michael Myers.

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Yeah and unfortunately I think Haddonfield is outmatched.

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No they honestly kind of are.

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Even with Tommy Doyle having a bat.

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Because frickin Laurie delivers such a cool line when she says Michael Myers is flesh

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and blood but no man could have survived that fire and the more he kills the more.

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Oh shit what is it.

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Damn it for how many times I've seen this damn trailer I should remember this line.

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I know you're disappointing both of us.

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Do you remember it.

461
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,760
No I don't remember it but I've only watched it a couple of times.

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Oh really.

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God damn it.

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The more the more he kills the more.

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It's not embody.

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God damn it.

467
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I can't remember it right now.

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I suck.

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00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:18,360
This is like I want to know what she was getting at.

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Like is it the more people he kills like the stronger he gets or the more.

471
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Like the harder he is to kill like that doesn't make sense.

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00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Yeah I mean I don't know like I think you kind of hit it on the head that the more he

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kills is it like the more like kind of a spiritual being he comes he becomes like he becomes

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like like in the next scene she the lady says he is the embodiment of pure evil and so does

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that mean that because he continues to become that he's literally invincible.

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Yeah that's what I was I'm wondering they're getting at like I thought they were going

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to take a more realistic route to this.

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I mean I think they still are.

479
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I mean we'll have to see how this plays out.

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Yeah so this is going to be an interesting movie and I'm here for it.

481
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Dude I will like I couldn't I was still on the fence on if I was looking forward this

482
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year to this more or Ghostbusters Afterlife but yeah this trailer just solidified that

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I will be there Thursday opening night to see this bitch on the biggest screen possible.

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Straight up.

485
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I have to see this the first showing I can't have anything spoiled for me with this movie.

486
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There's no way.

487
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Yeah this is this is going to be awesome.

488
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I'm so excited.

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Can October be here already please?

490
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Yeah.

491
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I mean at least we get Shang-Chi in September to hold us over but still.

492
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True.

493
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We have an interesting month coming.

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00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:14,160
We like we got Black Widow coming next month.

495
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,280
Suicide Squad in August.

496
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:24,680
And then Shang-Chi in September and then Halloween Kills in October and then November.

497
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:25,680
Don't we get Eternals?

498
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,680
Yep yeah we got the Eternals.

499
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,760
And then December we get Spider-Man.

500
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,840
No way home.

501
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,840
No way home.

502
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,840
Yeah.

503
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,880
Bro this is going to be a freaking bitch year.

504
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,840
What a way to end the year.

505
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,840
Oh my gosh.

506
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,560
I'm so freaking pumped dude.

507
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:59,920
So one thing that I'm also kind of worried about them doing in this movie is showing

508
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,360
Michael's face.

509
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:07,840
I so like like you said is it the granddaughter that grabs his mask?

510
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,920
No it's her daughter.

511
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:10,920
It's Karen.

512
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Karen?

513
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:12,920
Okay.

514
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,920
Yeah.

515
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,960
She grabs Michael's mask and is like waving it around and she she's just like you want

516
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,960
your mask back?

517
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:24,160
And I'm like oh bitch you're going to get it.

518
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:33,240
You know some people have speculated that actually Karen dies in this movie because

519
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,260
of that scene with her being like you want your mask come and get it.

520
00:35:36,260 --> 00:35:42,240
If you look at the previous trailer the opening shot is of the mask laying on the floor and

521
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,000
him picking it up.

522
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Yeah like I said bitch you're going to get it.

523
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Yeah.

524
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,520
But okay wait so you said that you're afraid that they're going to show his face?

525
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,520
Yeah.

526
00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:00,400
But yeah but they showed it in Halloween 2018 at the at the beginning when he's at Smith's

527
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,400
Grove.

528
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,720
Not like a full shot though.

529
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:04,720
Basically.

530
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,320
No they have actually.

531
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Like you saw like half of it like at Smith's Grove but when he's in the bathroom killing

532
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,240
the reporters you actually do see his full face.

533
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,440
I need to go watch it again.

534
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:21,440
You do.

535
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:27,480
I mean I really have nothing like yeah it kind of sucks seeing the actual like face

536
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:36,200
of the shape but I love I love that they chose James Ducourtney to play Michael Myers and

537
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:42,320
the way that they made his make the way that they're making him look is still freaking

538
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,520
terrifying without the mask.

539
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,280
So I'm okay with it.

540
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:54,600
I just hope that they don't showcase it as much if not more in Halloween kills.

541
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,880
Yeah.

542
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:00,440
Like I'm wondering if they're doing that to just kind of like if they do do that it's

543
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,160
going to be to humanize Michael in some way.

544
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,880
Or just not humanize.

545
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Maybe that's the wrong word.

546
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,840
I was going to say because I feel like you should never.

547
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,720
Oh sorry go ahead.

548
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:25,360
Like okay you know that line from Iron Man 2 if you make God bleed people cease to believe

549
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,120
in him.

550
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,920
Yes.

551
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,960
That's what I'm thinking.

552
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:38,320
It's going to be like that everyone's afraid of him until they see that he's just a man.

553
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,320
Okay that's fair.

554
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,320
That's fair.

555
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:47,400
I mean she's I don't know I feel I feel that no one should ever be like oh the boogeyman

556
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040
is just a man.

557
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,240
Yeah well that's us.

558
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,520
Yeah okay true.

559
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,720
Good point.

560
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:02,320
Like I said we're freaking rooting for the guy that's going to bushwhack some chick over

561
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,040
stealing his mask.

562
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:11,440
Dude the best comment I ever saw I saw with this trailer was someone said after watching

563
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,360
that opening with the firefighters this movie is going to say F you to Jason Voorhees for

564
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:24,200
the highest kill count of a serial killer in a horror movie.

565
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,640
Because I want to say they've said that like this is the most people this movie will have

566
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,960
the most people Michael Myers has ever killed in one movie.

567
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,560
Oh shit.

568
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:47,160
Yeah so we're in for one brutal ride it seems and I am all for it.

569
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,320
Michael Myers is about to set his ice score in Haddonfield.

570
00:38:52,320 --> 00:39:03,400
Going for the gold baby going for the gold.

571
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Yeah that town's getting bushwhacked.

572
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Dude for real dude I just thought like you know you know people like Laurie going just

573
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,560
like oh come on is that all you got Michael.

574
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:24,240
Is Jim Carrey being like no but thank you for asking in Sonic the Hedgehog.

575
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:25,240
I love that.

576
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:30,360
How the hell did he get stronger at 60 than he was in his 20s.

577
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Straight up.

578
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:40,360
But I love that he doesn't give two shits about Laurie and what he yeah what she did

579
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,480
to him.

580
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:47,440
I feel like kind of I feel bad for Laurie though for like wasting 40 years.

581
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,800
A little bit but you understand it too.

582
00:39:53,800 --> 00:40:00,440
But it's just yeah like so they point out in this they just like look he's leaving a

583
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:06,680
trail of bodies and it is headed straight for his childhood home.

584
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,160
And I'm like yeah he's not heading towards the hospital.

585
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,320
He's not going to the hospital that Laurie's at.

586
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,920
He doesn't give two shits about her.

587
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,360
He's just like going on a freaking killing spree walking down the street.

588
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,560
Yeah oh dude I'm so excited to see the Myers house again.

589
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:32,240
That's like oh Laurie who?

590
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:33,880
Who this bitch?

591
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,880
Yeah straight up dude like that's got to hurt more than anything else.

592
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,480
Like would you have this nemesis that you don't even that doesn't even know you exist?

593
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:48,160
Yeah because spoiler alert for Halloween 2018.

594
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,260
The only reason Michael Myers winds up at Laurie's house is because the freaking psycho

595
00:40:52,260 --> 00:40:55,120
doctor drives him there.

596
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,720
Yep.

597
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:00,440
That's the only reason.

598
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,320
He would have gladly just kept the walk in the streets of Haddonfield picking off anyone

599
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,120
he sees.

600
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:13,400
Yep dude it's like he's like I've been locked up for 20 years I'm about to get my fill.

601
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Well it's 40.

602
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,200
40.

603
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,200
40.

604
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Even better.

605
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:24,160
I've been locked up for 40 years I'm about to get it.

606
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:32,760
I got a lot of lost time to make up for fellas.

607
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,400
I think I know the answer but one out of ten.

608
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,400
Eleven.

609
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,400
That's an excitement level.

610
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Eleven?

611
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,160
No yeah ten.

612
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,640
Honestly I am too.

613
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,640
I'm so excited for this.

614
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,640
Hell yeah dude I never thought I'd hear you say that about a Halloween movie.

615
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,800
I know right?

616
00:41:52,800 --> 00:42:03,240
Dude I never thought that I would go to an opening night horror movie ever like in my

617
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:07,960
life but I've done it and I feel like I've done it a few times.

618
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,080
It's true yes.

619
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Like we did the first It.

620
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Yep.

621
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,480
It chapter two.

622
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:27,200
I think the only one we haven't oh wait did we see Halloween 2018 together in theaters?

623
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,200
No unfortunately we didn't.

624
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,640
Didn't we go see the purge anarchy opening weekend?

625
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,640
No.

626
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,200
Okay I thought we did.

627
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,040
Yeah I don't think so.

628
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,880
Yeah oh okay so the big hit is.

629
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,400
This is like complete side note.

630
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:54,000
I was cleaning out my wallet and I found my movie ticket for age of Ultron.

631
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,520
Oh that's awesome.

632
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,880
I bet you still have that.

633
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,080
Yeah and I was just like me and Ro saw that.

634
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:08,840
It was like from 2015 I think.

635
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,120
Yep yeah 2015.

636
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:17,040
And I have no idea wait was I married in 2015?

637
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Yes I was.

638
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,040
Were you gay or?

639
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,040
Never mind.

640
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:28,520
I was going to say I don't know how it ended up in my wallet because I've changed wallets.

641
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,040
Yeah I was going to say like god damn how long have you had that wallet?

642
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,400
I know that's what I'm questioning too because I'm pretty sure that the wallet I had before

643
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:47,080
this was that the black leather one that I had forever that was just like thick as shit.

644
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,720
It was basically like having a small rock in my back pocket.

645
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:51,720
Yeah I remember that one.

646
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,640
I can jack my spine up like no man's business.

647
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,920
Oh shit.

648
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,920
Yeah but I found that in my wallet and I'm just like how the hell?

649
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,040
Oh shit.

650
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,320
Just like I said side note.

651
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Yeah dude that's a cool memory.

652
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Getting back to this.

653
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:22,320
Yeah you guys can freaking count on us breaking this one down.

654
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Yes.

655
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,960
The only thing I'm bummed out about is I'm probably not going to be able to see it with

656
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:30,960
you.

657
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
I know I hate that.

658
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:42,720
I mean we can illegally switch just Facebook video chat while we're watching the movie.

659
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:52,480
We could get on a phone call if we tried seeing it at the same time but how hard is that going

660
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,480
to be?

661
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,480
That's true.

662
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,620
It would be like excuse me sir you need to put your phone away.

663
00:44:57,620 --> 00:45:01,200
This is for the all bros okay?

664
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,380
So get.

665
00:45:03,380 --> 00:45:06,640
It's like this is bigger than you.

666
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,840
This is bigger than all of us.

667
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,120
Dude I'm really hoping that they show this in Cinemark XD.

668
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120
I'm really hoping.

669
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,440
Oh that would be so cool.

670
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:30,200
Alright but I think that covers the trailers for this week so I think we can move on to

671
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,200
this week's headliner.

672
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,200
What do you say?

673
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:55,240
I'd say let's do it.

674
00:45:55,240 --> 00:46:02,680
Alright like we said this week's headliner we will be breaking down Spiral.

675
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:09,440
But first we did ask a question of the week this week and we got a few responses.

676
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:18,120
So the question that we asked was what has been your favorite Saw Trap?

677
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,780
And we got a couple responses.

678
00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:26,800
The first one is coming to us from the Untrained Eye at Untrained iPod.

679
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,360
They said it's gotta be the OG Face Trap for me.

680
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,480
That first Saw movie is maybe my all time favorite horror movie.

681
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,960
Hashtag this is your game.

682
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,400
So okay so I'm assuming that they're talking about the.

683
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,080
Okay wait sorry say their response one more time.

684
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,440
It was the OG Face Trap.

685
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,120
That's the reverse bear trap isn't it?

686
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,680
Yes.

687
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,320
So it's the one with that chick from the second one.

688
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,080
Okay yes so you have a reverse bear trap.

689
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:10,880
So what was her objective?

690
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,880
What did she have to do?

691
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:19,000
Because I'm pretty sure they had another face trap but they hid the key in the dudes eye?

692
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,400
Oh dude I forget what Amanda had to do.

693
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,680
I feel like the key was inside someone.

694
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,680
It probably was.

695
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,320
I'd have to sit down and watch these all over again.

696
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,640
I know like bringing this up like I want to.

697
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,120
Yeah same here.

698
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,040
I want to go through and just binge them all.

699
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:51,760
But if I remember right didn't she have to dig through like someone she loved to find

700
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200
the key?

701
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,200
I think so?

702
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,040
Damn this is really sad that we don't remember this.

703
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,600
I'm gonna look it up.

704
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,200
Okay sweet.

705
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Amanda Young?

706
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,400
Yes.

707
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:21,840
Okay let's wait I don't want to see her traps I want to see Amanda's test.

708
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,920
Didn't she have more than one test?

709
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:33,440
Okay I'm just gonna look up John Kramer's.

710
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,280
Okay so this is what he says.

711
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,080
This is Amanda Young's test.

712
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,880
He says hello Amanda you don't know me but I know you I want to play a game.

713
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,240
Here's what happens if you lose.

714
00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:51,800
The device you're wearing is hooked into your upper and lower jaws.

715
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:57,780
When the timer at the back goes off your mouth will be permanently ripped open.

716
00:48:57,780 --> 00:48:59,880
Think of it like a reverse bear trap.

717
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,360
Here I'll show you.

718
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,520
There is only one key to open the device.

719
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,080
It's in the stomach of your dead cellmate.

720
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,960
Oh yeah.

721
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:20,760
In the stomach well freaking easy peasy.

722
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,440
You say that now but do you really want to have to be digging through someone's flesh

723
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,440
and bones?

724
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,760
Well they're already dead.

725
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960
I mean true but still like ugh.

726
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,000
Like at least give me some gloves.

727
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,680
This is unsanitary John.

728
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:41,000
Yeah that one.

729
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,280
That's that OG.

730
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,280
Freaking amazing.

731
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Absolutely.

732
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:57,200
Dude like looking through these Amanda's traps freaking sucked compared to John's.

733
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:07,560
Well technically I thought Amanda never really had said it was because after John dies and

734
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,440
saw three Hoffman takes over and it becomes his traps.

735
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:21,360
Alright let's try to see where they have like who did what.

736
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,960
Okay so they had Mark Hoffman's traps.

737
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:32,920
Okay so he had shit did he have like the most?

738
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:39,760
I mean he probably did considering his were four through seven.

739
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:45,200
Fair.

740
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:56,040
The ten pints of sacrifice, the magnum eye hole, acid room, angel trap, antidote safe

741
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:05,440
room, nail bombs, necktie trap, needle pit, oxygen crusher, Bobby's trial, Brazen bowl.

742
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:12,280
They have a name for like all of these so yeah he had a shit on the traps.

743
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,440
Let's see what Amanda did.

744
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:23,360
Now I feel someone pointed out that it was literally impossible to win any of his.

745
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,360
Yeah absolutely.

746
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,080
Because Hoffman's a dick like that.

747
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,360
But yet I freaking love him.

748
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:37,440
Hoffman is probably arguably my favorite character of the Soft franchise.

749
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:53,560
Yeah so Amanda she did the angel trap, the bathroom trap, the classroom trap, nail bombs

750
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,560
and the shotgun collar.

751
00:51:55,560 --> 00:52:00,520
Oh yeah the shotgun collar is a classic.

752
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,880
Yeah and then she did a test for Jeff and Eric.

753
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,680
Oh my gosh those names sound so familiar.

754
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,240
I'll look them up.

755
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,240
So Jeff.

756
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:19,160
Okay so this was the guy that was taking or consumed with vengeance against the junk driver

757
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,280
who killed his only son.

758
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,680
Okay.

759
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:32,280
Oh so this is like the opening.

760
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,880
He goes through, he's the one with the freezer.

761
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:42,000
The chick, like the naked chick that gets sprayed with water.

762
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,760
Then the second test.

763
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:54,840
Okay the second test, the key that will free him is hidden inside your son's possessions.

764
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,480
Possessions you have clung onto for a long.

765
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,920
If you flip the switch on the incinerator underneath you a fire will cleanse you of

766
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,400
the obsession and destroy them all.

767
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,400
It is only the key that will bring you closer.

768
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,120
Okay so he doesn't turn on an incinerator.

769
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:22,520
Okay we're just gonna get into a freaking like hole.

770
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:28,040
Freaking like whose traps did what?

771
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:36,040
Well yeah OG Facetrap for the untrained eye.

772
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,960
Then we got a response from the Victims and Villains podcast.

773
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:51,720
He said, okay so first he asked favorite as in cringy or worst trap to be set to film.

774
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:55,880
To that I say both.

775
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:03,600
Yeah but he said his favorite was the shotgun spin around.

776
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,800
Yes that one gets a lot of hate for some reason in Saw 6.

777
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,600
I don't get why.

778
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,040
That is such a badass trap.

779
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,460
Yeah what, like explain that trap for those that haven't seen it.

780
00:54:18,460 --> 00:54:27,720
So in Saw 6 it kind of basically the storyline is that a bunch of people, so the main head

781
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:35,140
of this health insurance firm gets put into a trap along with all of his employees and

782
00:54:35,140 --> 00:54:38,120
so the, what did he call it?

783
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,000
Was it the carousel trap?

784
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:48,200
Yeah so he called it the shotgun spin around but on the Saw page it's called the shotgun

785
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,200
carousel.

786
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:55,120
So yeah so the shotgun carousel is, I think it has 6 people on it and literally it is

787
00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:01,480
a carousel because with his health insurance company there's these people that call themselves

788
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:07,360
the dog pit and they're able to like find stuff that people were lying about in their

789
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,200
health insurance application and so they, because they found that stuff they get to

790
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:17,960
deny them coverage and screw up their lives and yada yada yada they're freaking assholes.

791
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,680
So basically the way that this trap goes is that he is only able to save, the main guy

792
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:30,960
is only able to save 2 people out of the 6 and whoever he wants to save he has to put

793
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:42,040
his hand into this one section that will start drilling a hole into it and in doing so when

794
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:50,320
it drills into it the shotgun instead of being pointed at the person it lands on will start

795
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,440
going up and the shot will be fired into the air instead of the person.

796
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:06,640
So freaking cool trap and just the ending especially, well the last guy that, sorry

797
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,160
so he saves one last girl and then the guy that's the last one to die he's just like

798
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:17,960
oh so that's how it's going to be you mother effer you look at me when you're killing me.

799
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,720
He's freaking freaks out.

800
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:29,960
Dude I freaking love the shotgun carousel that one, oh so good.

801
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,000
Such a great trap.

802
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,640
I cannot wait to re-watch these.

803
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:41,560
Dude that's one reason but there's a lot of reasons why Saw 6 is still my favorite Saw

804
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,560
film.

805
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:55,720
Honestly I'm with the untrained eye, I'm assuming it's DJ but I'm with them saying number 1

806
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:56,720
is my all time favorite.

807
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:58,640
No the OG is great.

808
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:07,760
I love the original Saw but I know for some reason I love Saw 6 a little more.

809
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:14,720
But that kind of goes in with our last response which comes from Watch or Waste Films at Watch

810
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:20,160
or Waste, a new follower of ours actually.

811
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Oh hell yeah welcome aboard.

812
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:33,040
They posted a picture of an orangutan sawing a tree branch so I'm assuming they're referring

813
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:39,280
to the big trap in the first Saw.

814
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,720
Wait which one?

815
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,720
The main test.

816
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Oh okay sorry.

817
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:58,560
That's what I'm assuming he's referring to and I can't disagree.

818
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:05,840
That's what got me to love, honestly I think the first Saw movie is what got me to appreciate

819
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,720
horror movies.

820
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,640
What's really funny is just because this is the way my mom started it, I watched the Saw

821
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:22,800
franchise 3, 2, 1 and then went 4, 5, 6, and 7 because that's how she was showcased it

822
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:28,800
at work and they never told her that.

823
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,600
So yeah my mom shows me and my sister saw 3, 2, and 1 and we're just like what the hell

824
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,600
is going on?

825
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,880
Where the hell did this guy John Kramer come from?

826
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,880
The hell?

827
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:46,080
Oh bruh that sucks.

828
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:57,480
Yeah but oh well at least after watching the first one I got back on track.

829
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,240
First is instant classic for me.

830
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,640
I love the first one.

831
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:11,760
That one is the one that I left and I'm like bruh.

832
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,560
I was terrified the entire time.

833
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,520
I'm like something's going to come out and scare me but nothing did.

834
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,560
No someone's going to pop out in a pig mask and kidnap you.

835
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,720
That's what's going to happen.

836
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:28,840
But freaking John Kramer laying in a pool of blood in the middle of the room like are

837
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,840
you shitting me?

838
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,840
What?

839
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:36,920
And the fact that he took a shot just to slow his heartbeat down.

840
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,840
Guy freaking committed to really looking like he was dead.

841
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,760
Yeah he did.

842
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:51,720
So I'm, mine, I love that movie.

843
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:56,180
So amazing responses from everyone.

844
00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:59,440
So thank you all for answering our question of the week.

845
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:03,880
We really appreciate you guys.

846
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,880
Alright getting into the breakdown.

847
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,880
If you guys are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different

848
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:21,440
categories that we individually grade to come to a final all bros letter grade.

849
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:29,800
The eight categories that we score are story, writing, acting, character development, effects,

850
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:36,140
music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade at the very end.

851
01:00:36,140 --> 01:00:45,720
So if you have not seen Spiral we are about to spoil the entire freaking movie for you.

852
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,200
Yeah so come on people.

853
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,680
If you're a fan of Saw where the hell have you been?

854
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,200
Why haven't you watched this yet?

855
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,880
Yeah so go check it out and then come back and listen to our breakdown.

856
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,360
Yeah hell you can actually rent it at home now.

857
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:01,920
It's no longer feed or exclusive.

858
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,000
You can rent it at home now.

859
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,960
So you have no excuse.

860
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,700
None.

861
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:10,320
So that being said we're going to move on.

862
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:18,960
Yes alright so during a 4th of July parade an off duty cop detective Mark, sorry not

863
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:24,280
Mark, Marv Boswick chases a thief down a sewer drainage pipe.

864
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:29,600
Attacked from behind by a figure wearing a pig mask Boswick wakes up to find himself

865
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,800
suspended by his tongue in an active subway tunnel and is given a choice via recorded

866
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:35,800
message.

867
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,760
Tear out his tongue and live or remain until the next train arrives killing him.

868
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,920
Unable to escape the trap in time Boswick is hit by the train and killed.

869
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:52,720
The next day police captain Angie Garza assigns detective Ezekiel Zeke Banks a new partner

870
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,440
idealistic rookie William Schneck.

871
01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:01,720
Banks and Schneck, do you remember how they pronounce it in the movie?

872
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,720
At all?

873
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,360
I do not.

874
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:09,200
How would you pronounce it if it spelled S-C-H-E-N-K?

875
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,200
Shank?

876
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,200
Shank?

877
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,960
Okay I'm going to go with Shank.

878
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:21,760
Investigate Boswick's death and Banks realizes this to be similar to the now deceased Jigsaw

879
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,760
Killer.

880
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,520
Meanwhile, a homicide detective named Fitch, who several years prior had ignored a backup

881
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:34,680
call from Banks resulting in him nearly getting killed, is abducted and placed in a trap where

882
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:40,720
he must rip his fingers off to avoid electrocution in a filling water basin.

883
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,520
He also fails to escape and dies.

884
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,720
Some officers begin to suspect that Banks may be responsible due to his history with

885
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:48,880
Fitch.

886
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:54,080
A box then arrives at the station containing a pig puppet and a piece of Shank's tattooed

887
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,080
skin inside.

888
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:01,180
A small vial inside the box directs the police to a butcher shop which was previously a hobby

889
01:03:01,180 --> 01:03:06,240
shop where Banks and his father, retired chief Marcus Banks, would go.

890
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:11,920
Upon arriving the team discovers a tape recorder and a skinned corpse identified as Shank.

891
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,680
Deciding to track down the killer himself, Marcus travels to a warehouse where he is

892
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,000
abducted.

893
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,560
Shortly afterwards, Garza is kidnapped and placed in a trap in the precinct's cold storage

894
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:28,020
where she has to sever her spinal cord on a blade to stop hot wax flowing from a pipe

895
01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:29,720
onto her face.

896
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,400
She manages to successfully do it but dies of her injuries due to the boiling hot wax

897
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,000
with her body found by Banks.

898
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,760
While chasing a lead, Banks is captured and wakes up at the warehouse handcuffed to a

899
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,640
pipe with a hacksaw nearby.

900
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:49,340
He considers sawing off his arm but is able to escape using a loose bobby pin.

901
01:03:49,340 --> 01:03:54,800
He then discovers Peter Dunleavy, his former partner who was fired when Banks exposed a

902
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,000
murder he committed, chained in place.

903
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:03,360
In front of him is a large glass crushing machine which has been modified to hurl shrapnel

904
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,360
at him at high speed.

905
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,160
A tape recorder explains that Banks can choose to either free him or leave him to die.

906
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,400
Although Banks attempts to save Dunleavy, he dies from blood loss.

907
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,440
Moving to another room, Banks then finds Shank who is revealed to have faked his own death

908
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:25,400
by using the skinned corpse of the thief who lured Boswick into the tunnels and has been

909
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,640
the copycat all along.

910
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:32,680
He explains that he is actually Emerson, the son of the person Dunleavy murdered, who was

911
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,720
shot because he had agreed to testify against a dirty cop.

912
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:42,840
He also reveals that Marcus, during his time as chief, deliberately protected corrupt officers,

913
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:48,720
including Garza, in order to clean the streets of crime more efficiently under Article 8.

914
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:53,740
Believing that Banks can be an ally, Emerson presents him with a final test revealing Marcus

915
01:04:53,740 --> 01:04:57,880
restrained in the air and slowly drained of blood.

916
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:04,080
Emerson calls 911 and claims that he is a civilian being pursued by a shooter resulting

917
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,640
in the dispatcher sending a SWAT team to his location.

918
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,760
He hands Banks a revolver with a single bullet and offers him the choice to either use the

919
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:17,680
last bullet to shoot a target that will save Marcus but allow Emerson to escape or to kill

920
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,520
Emerson and let his father bleed to death.

921
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:25,200
Banks decides to shoot the target to save Marcus, causing his restraints to loosen and

922
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,360
lowering him to the ground, and then begins to fight Emerson.

923
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:34,760
Shortly after, the SWAT team arrives and inadvertently triggers a tripwire causing Marcus' restraints

924
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:36,800
to yank him upward again.

925
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:41,840
A gun is revealed to be affixed to his arm as restraints pull it upward resulting in

926
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,960
the SWAT team killing him.

927
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,440
Banks screams in anguish as Emerson escapes.

928
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,680
Class, I just want to point this out.

929
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:57,360
I love that they didn't stray away from the ending being like a bunch of shit going on,

930
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:03,280
someone dying and then someone screaming and the classic Saw theme just being like freaking

931
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,280
pumped up to an 11.

932
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,280
I loved it.

933
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:08,640
Absolutely freaking lutely.

934
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:13,440
So there was a lot with this story.

935
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:23,520
So with Saw movies, I feel like there's a lot of unpredictability about them.

936
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:30,160
They always kind of like, they don't give you enough to be able to guess what's going

937
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,160
to happen.

938
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,920
At least the first one didn't.

939
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:36,640
And I feel like the, which one had the house?

940
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,920
Was that three?

941
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:40,520
That was two, I think.

942
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:41,520
Okay.

943
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:47,080
Yeah, those ones where it was just like that kind of stuff where it was like, oh, there

944
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,520
was just something, like just a little hint of something that was said and it ended up

945
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,240
coming true with the, like coming into play in the very end.

946
01:06:55,240 --> 01:07:03,840
Like with that house, someone, I think it was Jigsaw said, or John Kramer said, your

947
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,560
son is safe.

948
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,640
Or just something about his son being safe.

949
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,800
And then like at the very end when he's basically watching just like a prerecorded video of

950
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:24,080
all this shit that's happening, like the door opens to a safe that his son is in.

951
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:28,800
And I'm like, bruh.

952
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,880
It's just like little subtle subtleties.

953
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,000
And this, it didn't have those.

954
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,000
It didn't.

955
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,000
I don't know.

956
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,880
I feel I can kind of excuse that.

957
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Just with this being a spinoff, it's not set in the actual Saw timeline.

958
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:52,400
Even though, I mean, yeah, of course they're just like, oh, you know, yeah, Jigsaw has

959
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,520
been dead for years.

960
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,880
Just another copycat.

961
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:02,840
But that's literally the last, I feel that's like literally the last time that they mentioned

962
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,960
Jigsaw is just, oh, hey, you know, Jigsaw did this stuff.

963
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:11,240
Well, it's probably just Jigsaw copycat and that's it.

964
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,000
He's never brought up again.

965
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:18,160
Yeah, pretty much.

966
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:34,600
So when it was revealed that William Shank or the rookie was the mastermind, did you

967
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,280
see that coming as early as I did?

968
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,280
I don't know.

969
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,640
Maybe I'm just not good at picking up on this stuff, but I didn't.

970
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,360
I didn't see it coming because I straight up thought that he did die with the whole

971
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:53,160
tattoo thing or like his piece of skin being cut off and it was his tattoo.

972
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:58,040
OK, let me tell you what what ruined that for me.

973
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,600
OK, yeah, I got to hear this.

974
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:12,520
So when they go and find the body of Shank and it is just like straight up, it's skinned.

975
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:18,160
What ruined it for me is that we did not get to see that game.

976
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,560
That's a good point.

977
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,840
Like think about everyone else.

978
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:30,840
We got to see the guy with the tongue, which honestly, I don't know if I would have had

979
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,960
the wherewithal to jump off.

980
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:36,560
I would have just jumped off the frickin chair.

981
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,700
Like frickin one, two, three, jump.

982
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:43,080
Like yeah, this is going to f and sock.

983
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,280
Yeah, and I mean, I'll never be able to talk again, but.

984
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:48,280
F it.

985
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,360
Yeah, like you can't.

986
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,800
I mean, come on a train.

987
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,800
Yeah.

988
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:54,800
Yeah.

989
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,200
Like, honestly, I'd be like on the same team as him, just kind of like standing on it,

990
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:04,120
just like trying to like wiggle my way out or whatever.

991
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,480
Until I heard that that that mother f and train.

992
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:11,120
I'd be like, all right, it is time to go.

993
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,880
That is all the all the motivation that I needed.

994
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:22,880
Yeah, like, come on, you frickin pussy.

995
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,960
Imagine if you had contact with the train conductors, it's like, can I get one more

996
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:28,960
whistle blow?

997
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,280
I just need that little extra push.

998
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,000
No, that's that's the thing that would have set me off, dude.

999
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,640
That is the thing that would have set me off.

1000
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,480
Like, that's it.

1001
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:41,480
I'm off.

1002
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:42,480
Fair enough.

1003
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:43,480
Fair enough.

1004
01:10:43,480 --> 01:10:44,480
Yeah.

1005
01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:45,860
So we got to see that.

1006
01:10:45,860 --> 01:10:49,200
We got to see the dude that got his fingers pulled off.

1007
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,200
Dude.

1008
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:58,720
OK, that might be in top five most gruesome saw traps I have ever seen, because I don't

1009
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,040
know for me, that sounds so frickin painful.

1010
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,600
And the way that it's like frickin set up is like just so disturbing and just oh my

1011
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:13,480
gosh, I was like frickin like getting like chills of how painful that must be in the

1012
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:14,480
theater.

1013
01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:15,640
It was like, yeah.

1014
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:21,020
So for anyone who hasn't seen it, I mean, sorry we're ruin this for you, but it's a

1015
01:11:21,020 --> 01:11:27,480
trap like his fingers were were all put into like Chinese finger traps.

1016
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:32,040
And then they were all attached to like cables that were attached to a wench.

1017
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,720
And so the wench was what was pulling him.

1018
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,960
And yeah, that was frickin rough.

1019
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:46,920
Basically, wasn't it if he didn't rip off his fingers within a minute, wasn't it because

1020
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,720
like something electrical was going to be dropped into the like bath that he was sitting

1021
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:51,720
in?

1022
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,080
I thought it was just going to touch a live wire.

1023
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,800
Oh, yeah, that's what it was.

1024
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:57,800
Yeah.

1025
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:03,880
So I feel like they stole that from what was it six?

1026
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,360
I think that was or was that or was that five?

1027
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:09,900
It might have been five.

1028
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:11,400
But I remember that same thing.

1029
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,240
It's just like something's filling up with water, live wire.

1030
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,360
And like I remember that.

1031
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:23,640
So I'm like, but yeah, so we got to see all of these other traps.

1032
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,400
Like even we even saw the frickin captain.

1033
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:33,540
And so like what what set the red flag off for me, the ding ding ding ding ding was.

1034
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:36,680
That we did not get to see.

1035
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,920
A what the rookie did.

1036
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,000
Like to deserve that.

1037
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,320
Yeah.

1038
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,360
And we did not get to see the the game.

1039
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,760
I don't know.

1040
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:52,040
Maybe I'm thinking just because I didn't want to like have anything spoiled in my head.

1041
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:57,680
I think I was just thinking that was that's a saw trap that's like really pushing the

1042
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,760
NC 17 rating.

1043
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,600
Have them be skinned alive.

1044
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,520
And for a saw trap, that was another thing.

1045
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:06,560
That was another thing.

1046
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,600
It wasn't an automated trap.

1047
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:14,600
Someone had like whoever is the mastermind skinned this person.

1048
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:18,040
Now that that wouldn't that that doesn't fly.

1049
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:19,040
Yeah.

1050
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,040
Sorry.

1051
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,760
That's not how traps work.

1052
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,760
Yeah.

1053
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,160
So I that one I was just like, no, that's that's not right.

1054
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,160
Like I'm pretty sure.

1055
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,160
Fair enough.

1056
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:30,160
I'm pretty sure it's the partner.

1057
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:34,000
I mean, kudos to you for picking up on that.

1058
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,000
Yeah.

1059
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:42,600
I thought for a minute that it could have been Marcus, the dad.

1060
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:43,880
So Samuel L. Jackson's character.

1061
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,360
I've been really funny if it was Samuel L. Jackson.

1062
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,360
Yeah.

1063
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:52,240
I thought for maybe a minute that it was him, but then as soon as they're just like, oh

1064
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:57,520
my gosh, the rookie's dead and like he was like skinned alive.

1065
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,240
I'm like, no, we didn't see it.

1066
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:06,040
Like that's what I how I feel about shit.

1067
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,920
Anytime I'm like, no, I didn't.

1068
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,000
I did not.

1069
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,400
I did not see a body.

1070
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,600
I'm not believing it.

1071
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,160
I would have just been happy if Samuel L. Jackson was the villain.

1072
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:29,840
We could have gotten the line of him just being like, you just got jigsawed mother effer.

1073
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:30,840
But yeah.

1074
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:40,000
So for me, like the rest of the movie was just like super, super predictable.

1075
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,000
That's fair.

1076
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:45,720
Now that you're like saying that, like I honestly should have seen it coming.

1077
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,720
And especially now hearing you say that this is definitely probably, I mean, do you feel

1078
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,200
this is the most predictable saw film?

1079
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,800
Easily, easily the most predictable.

1080
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:04,880
Like at least with the with the other saw movies, they had some variation.

1081
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:10,760
Like it would have been nice to see maybe even the dude that like, I would have liked

1082
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,680
to see the guy that got his fingers ripped off.

1083
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,840
I would have liked to see him make it.

1084
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,600
I would have too.

1085
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,400
I would just be very interested to see the damage left left after that.

1086
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,880
Yeah, no shit.

1087
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:34,400
But yeah, like that's that's stuff I would have liked to see.

1088
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:40,260
I would have liked to see the variation because in the other saw movies, we got to see variation.

1089
01:15:40,260 --> 01:15:41,680
We got to see some people make it.

1090
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,800
Some people didn't or most people didn't.

1091
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,800
Yeah.

1092
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:51,280
And yeah, like it's just with this, it was just like everyone died.

1093
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,280
Yeah.

1094
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,960
If the chief or the captain.

1095
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,200
Yeah, captain like.

1096
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,180
Yeah, I forget.

1097
01:15:59,180 --> 01:16:01,740
What was she supposed to do?

1098
01:16:01,740 --> 01:16:09,120
So she was supposed to stab a blade into the back of her neck to basically destroy her

1099
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,680
spinal cord.

1100
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,680
That's right.

1101
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:16,880
That one was dumb.

1102
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:22,520
So it says she has to sever her spinal cord on a blade to stop hot wax flowing from a

1103
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,760
pipe onto her face.

1104
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:29,120
Yeah, I thought that one was kind of dumb.

1105
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:34,560
Like not necessarily the trap because I thought the trap was was pretty decent, but it was

1106
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:39,840
just the what she had to do to get out of it.

1107
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:47,960
No, it's I mean, you could definitely tell that this rookie did not get his saw making

1108
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,520
abilities from the man himself.

1109
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,520
He's making it up as he's going along.

1110
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,000
Yeah, pretty much.

1111
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,120
Just like, dude, you're not even giving these people like a proper chance.

1112
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,440
Just like, hey, paralyze yourself.

1113
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:10,240
So he straight up is like, hell, I think I mean, would you say he's as bad as Hoffman?

1114
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,840
He's a lot more amateur than Hoffman.

1115
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:14,600
I mean, true.

1116
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,120
So yeah, I'd say he's worse than Hoffman.

1117
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,680
You got to give Hoffman this.

1118
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:22,240
At least he had some class.

1119
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,240
Kind of.

1120
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,800
He wouldn't like he set traps up that people could not win.

1121
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,320
Yeah, that's what that's what gives him class.

1122
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,120
That's not a piece of shit.

1123
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:32,120
He's a piece of shit.

1124
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,160
I mean, it's low class.

1125
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,560
There we go.

1126
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,560
There we go.

1127
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:44,160
Yeah, but yeah, I would have liked to see a little bit more variation.

1128
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,360
I would have liked to see.

1129
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:56,680
I don't know, just better traps in your no, I can definitely agree with that.

1130
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:06,960
In your opinion, did you like the voice that he was using for when the trap was explained

1131
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:11,280
or would you have preferred if he would have just used the classic jigsaw voice?

1132
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:18,280
I would have preferred the jigsaw voice, but his voice was fine.

1133
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,560
It wasn't John Kramer by any means, but it was fine.

1134
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,880
I mean, I'll give this movie this.

1135
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:31,560
I feel the traps, even though there there's less, I did like them better than saw the

1136
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,560
final chapter.

1137
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:34,560
Yes.

1138
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,960
Yeah, very much so.

1139
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,600
But it's also very hard to beat that.

1140
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,840
It's very hard not to beat that movie because I hate that movie.

1141
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,960
It's arguably the worst song.

1142
01:18:48,960 --> 01:19:01,640
Yeah, so I think just for me personally, the predictability of this movie kind of spoiled

1143
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,640
it.

1144
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,960
No, that's fair.

1145
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:05,960
I can understand that.

1146
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:12,320
Like I said, I wish I'm kind of glad that I didn't pick up on that like that.

1147
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:20,040
So I think I kind of got a little bit more of enjoyment out of this film than you.

1148
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,040
Because of that?

1149
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:22,040
Yeah.

1150
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:23,040
Well, at least in that regard.

1151
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,040
Well, don't get me wrong.

1152
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,040
I enjoyed it.

1153
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,040
Well, yeah, no, but I'm saying like-

1154
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:32,720
It's just like story wise, it's just, like I said, predictable.

1155
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:38,780
Yeah, like I didn't know who was actually going to be whereas you already knew.

1156
01:19:38,780 --> 01:19:42,480
So that kind of sucks that that kind of took away from you.

1157
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:46,880
Yeah, took away a little bit of your enjoyment.

1158
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:53,560
But yeah, it was solid.

1159
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:55,560
It was really solid.

1160
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:56,560
For-

1161
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:57,560
Sorry.

1162
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:58,560
No, sorry.

1163
01:19:58,560 --> 01:19:59,560
You go.

1164
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:05,200
Oh, no, I was going to say like honestly, for I didn't really know where they could

1165
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:10,240
take a Saw spinoff that's not directly associated with the original series.

1166
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,480
But I mean, story did impress me.

1167
01:20:13,480 --> 01:20:19,040
I think they pulled off a very decent written story.

1168
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,120
Yeah.

1169
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:28,400
But I think where the- so all of that stuff, like the predictability of it, I think that's

1170
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,840
what gave it the biggest dive.

1171
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,240
But what brought it back up for me was the end.

1172
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,240
Oh, yeah.

1173
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:42,360
The ending was beyond good.

1174
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,200
It was insane.

1175
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:51,960
So yeah, so Samuel L. Jackson's character is like getting drained of his blood, drops

1176
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,700
down to the ground, but then is lifted back up when the SWAT team are coming in and made

1177
01:20:56,700 --> 01:21:01,000
to look like he's pulling a gun on the SWAT team.

1178
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:07,200
And dude, I was freaking losing my mind during that.

1179
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,840
I was just like, no freaking way.

1180
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:18,640
Yeah, it's just watching like Chris Rock's reaction, just freaking out that his dad's

1181
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,280
a goner, just really super good.

1182
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,160
Dude, I was freaking out.

1183
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:32,560
Like the whole time, I'm just like, no.

1184
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:39,920
When he was getting lifted up and just the puppet look that he had originally was just

1185
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:40,920
insane.

1186
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:46,560
And then when- who revealed the gun?

1187
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:52,360
Or was the gun just something that got underneath his arm and then lifted up?

1188
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,040
I think it was underneath.

1189
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:56,040
I can't remember.

1190
01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:02,840
Yeah, however they did the gun, I was just like, I was just blown away.

1191
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:08,280
I'm like, yes, like this is how you do an ending.

1192
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:11,040
Yes, absolutely.

1193
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,840
Like the ending was amazing.

1194
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,920
And so yeah, that bumped it up to me.

1195
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:23,920
Like I- so our story grade is sitting at a 76.5.

1196
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:24,920
Not too shabby.

1197
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:32,880
Yeah, so I honestly would have been at a 75, but I enjoy like with you, because you gave

1198
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,520
it a 75.

1199
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:35,600
Yeah.

1200
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,440
I bumped it up by three points just for the ending alone.

1201
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:42,560
No, that's fair.

1202
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,320
I can't blame you for that.

1203
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:51,280
Yeah, so any other story issues that you had?

1204
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:52,280
Or?

1205
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:58,640
No, nothing I can think of off the top of my head.

1206
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:04,120
Yeah, well, let's move on over to writing.

1207
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,920
We ended up scoring this at a 79.

1208
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,800
So I didn't have any issues with the writing.

1209
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,040
I thought everything was pretty well written.

1210
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:22,120
Yeah, it was pretty- yeah, I really didn't have any problems either.

1211
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:27,800
This rocks, especially character writing was super, super solid.

1212
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:28,800
Really good.

1213
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:34,520
He really- I think he did a really good job at bringing in some of his comedic flair,

1214
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:41,880
but was able to pull off that flair in a really nice, dramatic way.

1215
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,840
Yes, absolutely.

1216
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:55,480
He's so good at just doing subtle things, and whatever part he played in this movie

1217
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:57,640
was incredible.

1218
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,600
I'm so glad that they put him in this.

1219
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,600
I am too.

1220
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,720
I know a lot of people were giving him shit.

1221
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:10,640
I know we should probably be saving this for acting, but anyway, people were just like,

1222
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,280
oh, you can't put Chris Rock in there.

1223
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,720
He's not a serious actor, let alone a horror actor, and yada, yada, yada.

1224
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,840
He surprised the hell out of me.

1225
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:23,720
I did not expect him to be that good in this movie.

1226
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:27,640
I didn't either, but he brought his A-game.

1227
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,120
Absolutely.

1228
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:30,440
Yeah.

1229
01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:38,960
But we'll get into that the next category.

1230
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:51,440
Coming back to writing, the only part that I felt was poorly written was a lot of the

1231
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:58,160
reveal with the partner.

1232
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:59,480
That's fair.

1233
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:03,600
That one I'm just like, eh.

1234
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:04,880
Okay.

1235
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,160
This is just maybe a bit over the top.

1236
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:18,040
I mean, honestly, if anything, I think it would have been better if it would have been

1237
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:25,400
that one guy that he was called for backup by Chris Rock, but didn't come.

1238
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:32,000
If it would have been other cops that he had worked with in the past that had been there

1239
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,760
since he first started on the force, I don't know.

1240
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:42,520
I think that would have given maybe a little bit more depth into the Sawtrap.

1241
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,520
I don't know.

1242
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:51,040
But I mean, the rookie's like his, what's the word?

1243
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:57,240
The reason why he puts these officers in the Sawtrap, I get, you know, he's taking revenge

1244
01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:05,400
for his dad getting murdered out of cold blood because he was going to testify against this

1245
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:06,400
bad cop.

1246
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,000
But I don't know.

1247
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:15,880
I feel it would have hit, it would have been a lot more emotional if it would have been

1248
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,520
someone a lot more closer to Chris Rock's character.

1249
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,240
Yeah.

1250
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:27,800
I think what maybe threw it for me a little bit was he was selecting the officers that

1251
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:34,800
he selected because of things that he knew that they did in the past.

1252
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:41,760
If he was the new guy, how would he know so much about that stuff?

1253
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,400
That's why I thought for a really long time that it was going to be Samuel L. Jackson's

1254
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:46,400
character.

1255
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,640
That's fair.

1256
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:59,200
And that maybe, I don't know, I just assumed that it was going to be him for a really long

1257
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:06,320
time until the damn like, oh, my partner died and he was skinned alive.

1258
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:10,880
After that, I was just like, okay, he is obviously going to be the bad guy.

1259
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:16,000
But up until that point, I thought it was going to be Samuel L. Jackson.

1260
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:22,080
And I would have put money on it until I saw that scene and I'm just like, yeah, nobody,

1261
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,600
you're guilty.

1262
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:32,520
And honestly, I would have maybe even preferred if they did the whole, like the same thing,

1263
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:41,200
the same ending where he's like tied up, but maybe gone a different route and made Samuel

1264
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:44,560
L. Jackson the ultimate mastermind.

1265
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,400
Ooh, okay.

1266
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:57,040
Like even after all that and like the thing with his son, because then that would have

1267
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:05,400
made a little bit more sense on why the people were specifically targeted because Wes's face,

1268
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:17,760
Boz was the one that didn't go and protect his son.

1269
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:23,400
The captain was just constantly just trying to keep things under wraps.

1270
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,360
Like who would have known all of that information?

1271
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,040
It would have been his dad.

1272
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,040
That's true.

1273
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:35,640
It wasn't stuff that was shared with people.

1274
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,560
Yeah, that's true.

1275
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:46,480
So it's just like those specific people getting targeted, it would have made sense for it

1276
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:52,040
to be Samuel L. Jackson.

1277
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,720
And that would have been a really fun like reveal too.

1278
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:59,660
Like maybe it's like, oh, he thinks that it's his dad.

1279
01:28:59,660 --> 01:29:11,320
Like maybe taking it along that journey made us think that he knows it's his dad and then

1280
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:19,360
do the reveal that he's in a trap and then it's like the partner and then on top and

1281
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:27,400
then just do a complete 360 and bring it back and or complete 180, sorry.

1282
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:34,320
And then be like, oh, actually it is the dad.

1283
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:43,560
Like that would have been a total just mind F. That really would have.

1284
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:49,760
But yeah, if they would have pulled the partner out, actually, if they would have just pulled

1285
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:58,440
his death out, I think the movie could have been like drastically improved.

1286
01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:00,560
I can agree with that.

1287
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,840
Yeah, because it's like no one was expecting it from him.

1288
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,680
Yeah, true.

1289
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:14,360
And like just like that would have been like an even better reveal for me personally.

1290
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:18,640
Like it's just like, oh, maybe they're going through this together.

1291
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,680
Like he doesn't save his part or like his old partner in time.

1292
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:23,680
What was it?

1293
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:24,680
Peter?

1294
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,000
I think that was his name.

1295
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,320
Yeah, he doesn't save Peter in time, but he gets into the next room and then it's his

1296
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:35,320
partners all beat to shit.

1297
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:40,300
And then maybe it's like a slightly easier trap.

1298
01:30:40,300 --> 01:30:45,920
And then he like rescues him from there, kind of like avoids that suspicion, goes on and

1299
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:51,400
like eventually gets to his dad, who's tied up in that room and then boom, it revealed

1300
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,200
that he's the mastermind.

1301
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,200
That would have been insane.

1302
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,840
Yeah, that would have.

1303
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:06,600
But unfortunately, that's not what they did.

1304
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:09,280
The Hell lines gate.

1305
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:18,760
So I think I think the like our writing score, so our writing score is 79, which puts it

1306
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:23,280
two and a half points above our story.

1307
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,760
And I think that's a pretty decent space.

1308
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,200
Yeah, I would say so.

1309
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,520
Yeah, I like the writing.

1310
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:36,800
It's just I feel there was a lot of the flaws in the writing were were just how the story

1311
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,320
was written.

1312
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:42,600
I don't think it was necessarily dialogue as much.

1313
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,120
I think there were worse.

1314
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,600
Definitely some cheesy lines in there.

1315
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:48,960
True.

1316
01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:55,000
But yeah, I think it was just it was slightly better.

1317
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:59,220
All right, getting into acting.

1318
01:31:59,220 --> 01:32:06,800
So going through the cast, we had our our lead Chris Rock, who played Zeke Banks.

1319
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:18,200
Then we had Max Minghella, who played William Schenck, who was the partner.

1320
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,560
Samuel L. Jackson played Marcus Banks.

1321
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:31,440
And then I I personally threw in Marisol Nichols, who played Captain Angie Garza.

1322
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:34,160
I did as well.

1323
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:41,660
And I kind of grouped her in with everyone else, too.

1324
01:32:41,660 --> 01:32:42,660
So we.

1325
01:32:42,660 --> 01:32:50,320
Yeah, I'm not seeing anyone else that I would know off the top of my head.

1326
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:54,120
So yeah, I did the the main three.

1327
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:55,120
I did.

1328
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,120
Yeah, no, I did as well.

1329
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:00,840
And then did like an everyone else category.

1330
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:04,200
And I thought the acting was pretty good, like.

1331
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,480
Obviously, Chris Rock was the lead.

1332
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:07,480
Yeah.

1333
01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:11,440
So I think he did the best job.

1334
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:13,560
Yeah, definitely.

1335
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:23,480
Like we talked about in writing for being a strict comedic actor.

1336
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:30,800
I'm not used to seeing Chris Rock being able to pull off a dramatic role in a horror movie.

1337
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:31,800
No doubt.

1338
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,280
No, or nevertheless.

1339
01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:41,600
So the fact that he was able to pull it off so, so well blew me out of the fricking water.

1340
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,200
Yeah.

1341
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:50,640
And in this, like I think Samuel L. Jackson's a little bit below Chris Rock.

1342
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,040
And that's just because he was playing himself.

1343
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:57,920
Yeah, no, he really he really did not have a character.

1344
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,280
Nothing against him.

1345
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,960
I feel I feel that's that's a writing problem right there.

1346
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:06,480
It's not Samuel L. Jackson's fault.

1347
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,280
Yeah.

1348
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:12,240
But his character just kind of seemed very one dimensional.

1349
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:20,200
Yeah, like for me out of the three main, he's definitely number three, actually.

1350
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:24,240
Honestly, I'd put it like I did not like the partner.

1351
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:30,840
See, I actually liked the partner up until when he's revealed as the villain.

1352
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,880
I was like, OK.

1353
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:40,200
So the fact that like for like 75 percent of the movie, I was actually on board and

1354
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:44,880
I really liked the I mean, I mean, this is mostly just based off the acting.

1355
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:52,800
If I'm not talking about like the character, then definitely he definitely deserved the

1356
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,720
second spot.

1357
01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:05,440
But because I still liked him, like 75 percent of the movie, he still gets it.

1358
01:35:05,440 --> 01:35:07,200
That's fair.

1359
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,960
I feel I really butchered that I apologize for some reason.

1360
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,960
I'm like out of it when it talks to when talking about his character development.

1361
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:15,400
Sorry about that, guys.

1362
01:35:15,400 --> 01:35:16,880
Not character development acting.

1363
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,760
Oh, my gosh.

1364
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,760
The hell is wrong with me?

1365
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,880
Yeah.

1366
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,760
I did not care for the partner as much.

1367
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:37,320
I think his was just maybe a little bit on the campy side.

1368
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:46,160
And then everyone else extremely campy.

1369
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,160
That's fair.

1370
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:54,680
Yeah, it was so hard to like to get on board, make it feel like they were like it just like

1371
01:35:54,680 --> 01:36:02,720
everyone hated Zeke over too much.

1372
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,360
They hated him too much.

1373
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:10,160
It felt like everyone hated Zeke because that was what was cool.

1374
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:11,640
Yeah.

1375
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:15,440
Yeah, I can agree to that.

1376
01:36:15,440 --> 01:36:18,640
It's just too much.

1377
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:27,080
It's just all the shady looks, all of the freaking arguing with him that they had.

1378
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,880
It was just too much.

1379
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:30,880
It was.

1380
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,640
It definitely was.

1381
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,440
Yeah.

1382
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:47,840
So I honestly I put my acting grade at 88, which seems too high now.

1383
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:52,440
I think I'm going to bring it down to like an 83.

1384
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:53,680
What did I put mine at?

1385
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,120
You put it at 80.

1386
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:56,120
Okay.

1387
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,080
Yeah, I'm sticking with that.

1388
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,460
Yeah, it was good.

1389
01:37:00,460 --> 01:37:02,680
But Chris Rock was carrying the movie.

1390
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:03,680
Oh, yeah, definitely.

1391
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:04,680
There is no doubt about that.

1392
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:10,280
So I wouldn't have even given him a perfect score.

1393
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:17,760
I think I put like the highest I gave him was maybe a 90.

1394
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:18,760
And then everyone just like.

1395
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:19,760
I tried for him.

1396
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:24,760
Yeah, and then just below everyone else for that.

1397
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,680
Yeah.

1398
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:35,160
So our acting is now sitting at an 81.5 with my adjustment.

1399
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:36,160
Not bad still.

1400
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:37,160
All right.

1401
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:44,880
Moving on to character development, which with this being a horror slash thriller movie,

1402
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:52,360
we're going to go for logic.

1403
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:59,360
I mean, for the rules that we've that have been established in the Saw franchise, I feel

1404
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:03,760
it makes absolute sense.

1405
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:09,580
If anything, I feel these traps are they kind of feel like more what's the word, gritty

1406
01:38:09,580 --> 01:38:18,000
and realistic only because the fact that we're working with a guy that has never touched

1407
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:24,320
a saw trap in his life, at least as far as I'm assuming.

1408
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:30,120
So the fact that he's like having to learn as he goes, I don't know, for me, just kind

1409
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:38,180
of made him feel more gritty and made it feel more realistic within this universe as much

1410
01:38:38,180 --> 01:38:41,720
as you can get realistic in this universe.

1411
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:46,480
Because when you really think about it, this is really f'ed up for someone to do this to

1412
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:50,160
people.

1413
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:55,960
So for if they're with playing by their own rules, I do think that Spyro does a really

1414
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,440
good job with that.

1415
01:38:58,440 --> 01:39:00,360
I think they did too.

1416
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:05,560
I don't think they went too overboard when it came to gore.

1417
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:11,160
I think a lot of the other Saw movies, like anytime someone kind of gets cut, it's just

1418
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,960
like they're bleeding profusely.

1419
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:23,080
And in this, if felt very grounded, like the guy who was getting his fingers ripped off,

1420
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:34,080
like, oh my gosh, that made me cringe because I feel like that's exactly how it would happen.

1421
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:42,960
One other that I had like almost a physical reaction to was the death of the captain with

1422
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,800
the hot wax.

1423
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:51,280
Like I was just like, ugh.

1424
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:56,480
Yeah that was some ugh disturbed shit.

1425
01:39:56,480 --> 01:40:05,120
Yeah and I mean, yes, the it is a very just brute.

1426
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:09,400
We know it's a brutal movie, but just, I mean, damn.

1427
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:13,440
Yeah, like that's how the way I look at these movies.

1428
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:18,880
Like you know what you're going in and what you're going to expect, but still sometimes

1429
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,800
there are those saw traps that kind of catch you off guard and you're just like, oh my

1430
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,320
gosh, you're actually doing that to a human.

1431
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:27,840
Yeah.

1432
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:33,540
I really appreciated with Peter's trap.

1433
01:40:33,540 --> 01:40:40,320
So they had this trap where he, they were dropping glass into a shredder or some shit

1434
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:44,060
and it was like shooting the glass out at Peter.

1435
01:40:44,060 --> 01:40:47,060
And so he ended up dying from blood loss.

1436
01:40:47,060 --> 01:40:54,000
But one thing I really appreciated about that trap was you could see it tearing his back

1437
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,680
up.

1438
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:03,220
And I was just like, like I feel like they could have gone really overboard on the blood

1439
01:41:03,220 --> 01:41:04,220
with that.

1440
01:41:04,220 --> 01:41:10,280
Like they could have been like, oh, just blood spurts everywhere and whatever, but they didn't.

1441
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:16,160
It was just like a lot of like the piercing that they dealt with.

1442
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:19,520
And I appreciate the hell out of that.

1443
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:25,320
Also going off of that, I appreciate that they didn't go overboard with him, his reaction.

1444
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:31,360
He's not like, oh, no, like literally after like the first round, he's become like numb

1445
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,720
to it that he doesn't kind of like know how to feel his body doesn't know how to feel

1446
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:41,480
to it to where like literally he is just sitting there like a rag doll when he's getting hit

1447
01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:42,680
by the glass.

1448
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:43,680
Yes.

1449
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,720
I think that's what sold the reaction.

1450
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:46,760
Yeah, absolutely.

1451
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,460
I loved that.

1452
01:41:48,460 --> 01:41:54,720
So kudos to whoever told the actor, don't freak out when glass hits you.

1453
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,760
We got to make this look realistic.

1454
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:57,760
Yeah.

1455
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,360
Like the, what was it?

1456
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:08,360
Was the first time like the first time was his most crazy reaction.

1457
01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,240
Yeah.

1458
01:42:10,240 --> 01:42:16,880
Every like the rest of his reaction, like, like you said, was just a little bit more

1459
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:23,720
mellow and rightfully so because yeah, after getting hit by glass, you're going to start

1460
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,480
to feel numb to everything.

1461
01:42:25,480 --> 01:42:28,320
Yeah, that would suck.

1462
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,520
Yeah.

1463
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:41,400
But yeah, I'm so glad that they that they they just like calmed everything down.

1464
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,880
Like I said, try to ground it.

1465
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:49,280
But yeah, logically, I think everything made sense.

1466
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,760
Oh, yeah, I ended up giving this a fairly high grade.

1467
01:42:53,760 --> 01:43:01,040
The only thing that I didn't was the the skinning.

1468
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,040
That's fair.

1469
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:06,360
And the only reason is because like I said, I called it.

1470
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:07,880
It was the partner.

1471
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:15,160
And the only reason that I thought that was because we did not get to see the game.

1472
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:20,120
If they would have shown us a game, I would have bought it.

1473
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:21,120
Maybe.

1474
01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,640
But again, I'm also the type of person that's just like, no, nobody.

1475
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,640
It didn't happen.

1476
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:36,680
But yeah, so the logic is sitting at an eighty eight.

1477
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,080
Not bad.

1478
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,400
Yeah, not bad at all.

1479
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,880
Moving on over to effects.

1480
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:49,240
So there was lots of practical effects in this.

1481
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:55,200
Literally every saw trap that is in this movie was very well executed.

1482
01:43:55,200 --> 01:44:02,120
Oh, yeah, there weren't there really isn't any traps that you have to like, what's the

1483
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:03,120
word?

1484
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:06,320
Go beyond your sense of belief.

1485
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:11,040
You could absolutely see that working, especially I know we brought it up a lot, but the whole

1486
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:17,840
finger ripping trap, fricking disturbing, terrifying, but it's not like it's not like

1487
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:22,760
disturbing, terrifying, but that is exactly if you're picturing that trap, that is exactly

1488
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,600
how you could see it playing out.

1489
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:31,640
Yeah, I think that that you could have easily gone for just like, like we said, just spurts

1490
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,280
of blood.

1491
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:38,200
But since they wanted to ground this, it would.

1492
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,560
I don't think it would it would do that.

1493
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:49,080
Like, I honestly think that it would be the meat in your in your fingers or the muscle

1494
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,080
in your fingers.

1495
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:54,520
Like, I think that would just stretch out to a point before bleeding.

1496
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,600
No, I absolutely agree.

1497
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:00,400
Yeah, and.

1498
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,840
Oh, so good.

1499
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:08,120
Like everything was so well done.

1500
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:14,440
And the makeup on some like on the guys when they were like fricking toasted.

1501
01:45:14,440 --> 01:45:22,920
Like, oh, yeah, like you get to see him fried because he got electrocuted to hell.

1502
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,400
The captain, once the wax got peeled away.

1503
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:27,840
Oh, that was.

1504
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:34,520
Yeah, that was just hard to watch of insane reaction out of me.

1505
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:44,000
I'm just like, oh, freaking so good.

1506
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:48,600
Like kudos to the the makeup department.

1507
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,360
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

1508
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,360
You all deserve a round of applause because you knocked it out of the freaking park with

1509
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:57,720
this one.

1510
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,280
Yeah.

1511
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:04,760
So we ended up giving effects a ninety one point five.

1512
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,600
Yeah, absolutely.

1513
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,720
So hot hot.

1514
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,720
Spoiler alert.

1515
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,720
Highest category.

1516
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,040
All right.

1517
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:20,320
Moving on over to music.

1518
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:29,000
The only thing that stood out to me was the the the the score like the the the soft score.

1519
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:34,160
I mean, I can definitely agree with that.

1520
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:38,120
You know, honestly, I was half expecting, you know, the song that they were really,

1521
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:41,440
really hyping up with this movie, the spiral song.

1522
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:45,960
No, like the I'm a little spin like a spiral.

1523
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,560
I. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1524
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:50,560
Yeah.

1525
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:54,960
So I want to say that was like the first song to play in the trailer or in the credits.

1526
01:46:54,960 --> 01:47:02,680
I honestly just just for how much they hyped that song, I half expected it to just like

1527
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:07,600
start playing like in the middle of the movie.

1528
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:13,160
I did not expect it to be at the final credits, which, you know, way better decision.

1529
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:20,720
I mean, it's a decent song, but it doesn't belong in the middle of a freaking saw movie.

1530
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:24,120
But like I can definitely agree with Caleb.

1531
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,760
Really all that sticks out is the saw, like the actual saw music.

1532
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:34,400
But the way that it's utilized at the end, the way that it's like pumped up to an eleven

1533
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:40,720
when Samuel Jackson's gun like pops out, the SWAT team shoot him and you see Chris Rock's

1534
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:45,800
reaction just freaking out, just screaming at the top of his lungs and you see the rookie

1535
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:46,800
getting away.

1536
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,760
Like I said, the way it is just freaking blasted to an eleven.

1537
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,920
It's so it's played out so well.

1538
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:55,840
I freaking loved it.

1539
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:56,840
Yeah.

1540
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:02,800
Um, the rest of the soundtrack wasn't too memorable.

1541
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:07,800
So we ended up setting the music score at a seven.

1542
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:09,520
Not bad.

1543
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:14,120
Yeah, not bad at all.

1544
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:19,360
Jump into costumes.

1545
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,360
Pretty basic costumes.

1546
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,160
It was just police uniforms.

1547
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,080
Yeah, that or a shirt and tie.

1548
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,080
Yeah.

1549
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:34,400
Uh, pretty laid back, but I think everything worked for the area, like where they were

1550
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,840
at and everything.

1551
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:40,200
I don't think anyone felt really out of place.

1552
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:45,760
Um, so I honestly, I don't have too much to say about costumes.

1553
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,080
No, I don't either.

1554
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:51,040
I mean what they needed to do, they did it well.

1555
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,040
So yeah.

1556
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:58,620
So costumes is sitting at a seven as well.

1557
01:48:58,620 --> 01:49:02,080
So that brings us to our own personal grade.

1558
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,280
So Rose, you want to take this one away?

1559
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:05,280
I would love to.

1560
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:11,280
Um, so like I said earlier, I didn't think that they would be able to pull off a spinoff

1561
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:15,600
from the Saw franchise, but they did it very, very well.

1562
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:23,920
Chris Rock is honestly at his best in this movie, even being, uh, having to be dramatic.

1563
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,160
He does a great job.

1564
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,760
The traps are very well utilized.

1565
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,160
They're, they're bloody good time.

1566
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:38,000
Um, I had a really, really good time with this one and I can't wait to see where they

1567
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,440
take the Saw franchise after this one.

1568
01:49:40,440 --> 01:49:44,760
Um, so I'm going to go a solid 80.

1569
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:45,760
Nice.

1570
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:50,520
Um, that's actually a little bit higher than, than I would have given it.

1571
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:53,320
And I thought that I enjoyed this more than you.

1572
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,320
I got a soft spot for Saw now.

1573
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:00,320
Yeah, it seems like it.

1574
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:06,640
Um, but yeah, I, I also really enjoyed this movie.

1575
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:13,200
It was, it was good, but like I said, it was just, it was predictable.

1576
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:23,560
And for someone that likes to, likes those twists and those just crazy reveals, um, it

1577
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,960
did get me back.

1578
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:31,240
Like I, when they were doing the whole reveal, I'm just like, okay, like you can end the

1579
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,160
movie now.

1580
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:37,800
But then once, when it was like, they were doing like the crazy, like, like you said,

1581
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:46,600
hyping the ending up to 11 with the, the, uh, the score and just going fricking hog

1582
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,280
wild on it.

1583
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:54,460
Like that got me fricking back into it and like just loving the ending.

1584
01:50:54,460 --> 01:50:57,440
Like I left and I was just like, I fricking loved it.

1585
01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:04,400
But like after some reflection, I'm like, I actually just really liked the ending and

1586
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,960
Chris Rock was good too.

1587
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,920
But I really, really enjoyed this movie.

1588
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,720
I, I miss Saw movies.

1589
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:19,280
Like after this movie and after this breakdown, I want to go back and rewatch all the Saw

1590
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:20,280
movies.

1591
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:21,280
Yes.

1592
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:22,280
Yeah.

1593
01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:26,440
They were just so good.

1594
01:51:26,440 --> 01:51:31,040
Um, but I am sitting a couple points below.

1595
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:35,480
I'm actually going to, I'm actually sitting at a 78.

1596
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:36,480
Hell yeah.

1597
01:51:36,480 --> 01:51:37,480
I like it.

1598
01:51:37,480 --> 01:51:38,480
Yeah.

1599
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:45,960
So that averages us out to a 79 and are for our personal grade.

1600
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:57,680
And with that, our final Albreos letter grade for spiral is a B minus.

1601
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,120
Nice.

1602
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:00,920
Yeah.

1603
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,120
Not bad.

1604
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:14,800
Um, let's see compared to some other, yeah, let's see compared to some other B minus movies.

1605
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:19,240
This is on a little bit of the lower end.

1606
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:23,320
So it is sitting below.

1607
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:30,400
Ooh, actually it's like, it's tied exactly.

1608
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,120
With the war with grandpa.

1609
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,160
Oh shit.

1610
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:35,160
Wow.

1611
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:36,160
Yeah.

1612
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,840
Actually, it's tied with a couple movies.

1613
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:40,840
Damn.

1614
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:41,840
Yeah.

1615
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:46,400
So it's tied with the war with grandpa and rogue one.

1616
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:48,600
All right.

1617
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:50,040
Okay.

1618
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:55,400
So the war with grandpa is a little bit harder for me to like compare the two.

1619
01:52:55,400 --> 01:52:56,760
Yeah.

1620
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:07,320
But like if you throw a, like you liked spiral as much as you liked rogue one, like that

1621
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:08,320
tracks.

1622
01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:09,320
Yeah.

1623
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,600
I can definitely agree with that.

1624
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:12,600
Yeah.

1625
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:18,320
So spiral is sitting at an 81.93.

1626
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:26,640
And so yeah, war with grandpa and rogue one are also sitting at an 81.93.

1627
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:35,280
Well yeah, those movies are below it chapter two, which is sitting at an 81.9 magnificent

1628
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:41,200
seven, which is sitting at an 82.1 let's be cops.

1629
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:52,280
Which is sitting at an 82.3 and the Umbra short film, which is sitting at an 82.4.

1630
01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:59,880
And then spiral is above holiday and handcuffs, which is sitting in an 81.7.

1631
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:02,200
Sorry, Jason.

1632
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:03,200
Yeah.

1633
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:11,180
It's sitting above birds of prey, which is sitting at an 81.75.

1634
01:54:11,180 --> 01:54:16,920
So holiday and handcuffs is 81.78 and then birds of prey is 81.75.

1635
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,280
Okay.

1636
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:26,480
It's also above late night, which is sitting at an 81.37.

1637
01:54:26,480 --> 01:54:33,880
It's also above Deadpool two, which is sitting at an 81.08.

1638
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:42,800
And then lastly, it is above the banana splits movie, which is sitting at an 80.91.

1639
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:43,800
Not too shabby.

1640
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:45,480
Not too shabby at all.

1641
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:46,480
Not too.

1642
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:47,480
Yeah.

1643
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:54,120
I think it has a pretty decent home.

1644
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:59,800
The only one that's like surprises me a little bit is Deadpool two.

1645
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,560
But I mean, I understand.

1646
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,200
I get it when I think about it.

1647
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:06,200
Yeah.

1648
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:07,200
Yeah.

1649
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:14,200
But yeah, it's sitting, it has a pretty decent home.

1650
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:24,600
So we have 17 B minus movies and out of the 17, Spiral ranks number 10.

1651
01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,800
That's not bad.

1652
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:27,800
Yeah.

1653
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,800
Not bad at all.

1654
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:36,200
Like I said, I think it has a good home.

1655
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:41,080
So with that, I believe that concludes this week's breakdown.

1656
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,800
I would say so.

1657
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:44,800
Yeah.

1658
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:50,080
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1659
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:53,360
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1660
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:54,880
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1661
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,280
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1662
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:03,960
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1663
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:07,960
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1664
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,600
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1665
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:15,040
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1666
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:22,440
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1667
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:27,440
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1668
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,480
Yeah.

1669
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:39,440
But next week, we will be breaking down the newest Pixar movie, Luca.

1670
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:40,720
It's Pixar, right?

1671
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:41,800
Yeah, yeah, that's Pixar.

1672
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:42,800
Okay.

1673
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:43,800
You were giving me funny looks.

1674
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:44,800
I thought I was wrong.

1675
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:45,800
Oh, no, you're good.

1676
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:50,360
I mean, honestly, the way that the humans are drawn in this, you could have fooled me,

1677
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,840
but not saying that's a bad thing.

1678
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:59,600
But yeah, so Luca is available on Disney Plus for anyone who's subscribed to it.

1679
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,720
So definitely go give it a listen.

1680
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,680
It is, spoiler alert, really good.

1681
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,840
I mean, I wouldn't know.

1682
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:12,840
I haven't watched it yet.

1683
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,600
But really funny if he loved it and I hated it.

1684
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:16,600
It'd be really funny.

1685
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:18,320
Dude, how funny would that be?

1686
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:24,920
That would be, but it's very rare that I hate a Pixar movie, so it's probably not going

1687
01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:25,920
to happen.

1688
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:26,920
Yeah.

1689
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:37,880
I would put this, compared to some other Pixar movies, I would put this somewhere around

1690
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:38,880
Cars.

1691
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:39,880
Okay.

1692
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:46,640
Okay, I like that, because I always feel Cars gets too much hate.

1693
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:48,760
Yeah, it's a good one.

1694
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:49,760
It's a good one.

1695
01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:50,760
Okay.

1696
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:57,280
So you guys can listen to our thoughts on that next week when we break it down.

1697
01:57:57,280 --> 01:58:00,960
And until then, this has been the All Bros Podcast.

1698
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:02,460
I'm Caleb.

1699
01:58:02,460 --> 01:58:03,460
And I'm Jonathan.

1700
01:58:03,460 --> 01:58:05,440
And we'll catch you guys next week.

1701
01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:06,440
Deuses.

1702
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:07,440
So long.

1703
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:08,440
Not bad.

1704
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:21,760
Thank you.