What is up bros and welcome to the All Bros Podcast, I'm Jonathan.
And I'm Caleb.
And we are joined by a special guest this episode, we are joined by Beth from the untrained
eye.
Beth, would you like to introduce yourself?
Even though I just did already.
No I kind of hate that.
You're like, let me just stand up and say my name and talk about myself.
Just kidding.
I mean, I really do hate that.
But since you already said who I was, I'm gonna let that stand.
Okay, that works.
This episode is gonna be great.
Good times.
So, like I said, we got Beth from the untrained eye on this episode.
But Caleb and I are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies, but
also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.
This week on the podcast, we'll be skipping over Funko Focus, because there really is
nothing to talk about, or at least that we're interested in.
In 4k spotlight, we have a new DC movie coming out.
One that was very long awaited and did not disappoint for most people, I feel.
And then for news, going back from what Caleb did last week, because he was such a trooper,
we'll be talking about what he saved for this week's episode.
And then after that, we'll move on to our All Bros.
Headliner.
It's Headliner, right?
Are you shitting me?
You disappear for a week and you forget what we call our episode.
I do, I'm sorry.
It's Headliner, right?
Yes.
Okay.
We're moving on to our All Bros.
Headliner of the evening, which will be the All Bros. and Untrained Eyes breakdown of
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Hell yeah.
Yeah.
So what do you say we get started, you two?
Let's do it.
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It's what all the cool kids are doing.
Am I supposed to start talking now?
My bad.
I wasn't watching the signals.
They're just waiting.
I don't know.
All right.
I'm professional.
I'm mostly just.
I just can't wait to start talking about the Willowbees.
You're good to go, Rose.
So skipping over Funko focus, because like I said, nothing.
But for 4K spotlight, the HBO Max original film, Zack Snyder's Justice League is coming
to 4K and Blu-ray this week, and it will be getting the regular 4K release, Blu-ray release,
a kind of triple feature that includes Batman v Superman, Man of Steel, and Zack Snyder's
Justice League.
And then for exclusive wise, it's only getting a Best Buy Steel book.
Do I already have that on pre-order?
Yes, I do.
Nice.
Have you seen the Justice League, like the real one?
Yeah, we saw when it originally came out and then we tried to watch the Snyder cut and
then did not finish it.
Didn't even get halfway.
Really long movie.
Yeah, it was a very long movie and I wasn't a huge fan of the original one.
And so just adding more stuff to it, I was like, I don't know.
It kind of does feel like that.
Like they're just kind of throwing in the new stuff, but it is a lot more footage that
Zack Snyder threw in.
And you can definitely feel the difference in the tones.
Really?
Yeah, especially near the end, especially near the end.
But you kind of have to make it through all of the shit that we saw with the Joss Whedon
version.
Right.
So you think it's worth it to sit through it?
I think it is.
I feel it is considering they split it up into parts, which I really appreciate.
Yeah.
Well, how they were originally going to release it, they were going to release, it was going
to be like a mini series.
So like six episode mini series or however many chapters they said it had.
I think it was six.
But yeah, they were going to have those released in individual parts.
And then at the end of that six weeks when everything was released, they were going to
release like the super cut where it's like a full four hours.
So it wasn't originally supposed to be a full four hour film.
It's supposed to be broken up into parts.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Like I'm not opposed to a four hour film, but I just wasn't a fan of it.
Even if someone else is like changing it around and adding things.
I'm not a big fan of Ben Affleck as Batman.
Like I don't know, DC movies just aren't hitting for me.
Like the TV shows, I'm all in for it, but the movies, not so much.
Yeah, I definitely understand that.
It's kind of a tougher sell, especially with how often DC's let us down.
Yeah.
But I mean, they've gotten slowly better.
Like they did like really good with Shazam.
Oh yeah.
Let us down.
Like I mean, I think they like boosted up with Aquaman.
Like Aquaman was just so much better than any other DC film we've gotten to that point,
not including Wonder Woman.
Yeah, I was going to say, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah.
I mean, I will say I did like Wonder Woman, but we haven't seen Aquaman yet.
Like it's sitting there waiting for us, but it's good.
Is it?
Yeah.
I'd say it's maybe slightly worse than Shazam.
Okay.
I did like Shazam.
I thought that was pretty good.
Like have you guys seen the Doom Patrol?
Oh my gosh.
It's on HBO.
Yes.
So good.
Oh, so good.
Yeah.
Have you watched all the seasons or are you like still catching up?
We're still catching up.
Like I think we might be like, I don't know, middle of season two.
So that's awesome.
Yeah.
I think now is like a perfect time to start doing that because season three is getting
released soon-ish, I think.
And season two wasn't originally supposed to end how it ended.
So I think the first two episodes, they said, are supposed to be how season two was supposed
to end.
Okay.
Like do they change it because of like COVID or?
Yeah.
Like COVID happened and then they had to cut filming short and then they couldn't make
that one extra episode that they needed.
I think it was like one or two extra episodes that they needed.
So they're just like, all right, screw it.
That's just going to be cliffhanger until season three.
Yeah.
Like I don't know.
Like that's a really good show just because it's so out there, but it's also like really
funny just because of how like pissed off the robot guy gets Cliff.
Oh my gosh.
I freaking love Cliff.
Yeah.
This is like DC's Guardians of the Galaxy.
Yeah.
Like I love how he looks too, how he's like, I don't know, he looks like he would be in
a rock band with this clothes, but he's a robot.
Yeah, exactly.
Such a good show.
And I love how it's not super like action packed.
It's just like a real deep dive on the characters.
Right.
Yeah.
I like that little girl that's like, I don't remember his name, the one that's like looks
like a little werewolf or something.
Oh, Dorothy.
Dorothy.
Like, that's not really a little girl.
Like the actress is like 20.
What?
Yeah.
Cause I was like, I wonder if that's really a little girl.
Like she's like hamming it up, like over the top.
And so we Googled it and it's not.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
She's just a small person.
That's insane.
Yeah.
And she's like, is she just like one of those, the little people that's like all proportionate?
I guess.
Like if you, like after we found that, I was like out, I'm like, she's supposed to be what?
Like eight or 10 or something.
In the show, she's like a couple hundred years old.
But isn't she supposed to still be like a child though, even though she's that age.
Yeah.
Like, she's got boobs.
That just got uncomfortable.
Sorry.
But next time you watch it, we're like, that is not a child.
I haven't even seen the show and I don't know if I want to now.
It's not creepy.
Now that I know.
Okay.
Sorry, Rose.
I didn't mean to ruin it for you.
She's supposed to be like a hundred something years old.
Like you said, it's not really a child.
Yeah.
But honestly, that's not even the weird, like even knowing that that's still not the weirdest
thing in that show.
Right.
Like there is a, like a sentient street.
Yeah.
Like who came up with that idea?
Or I love flex.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, he is so cool.
Yeah.
So, but yeah, like I feel like the shows for DC are like way better.
Like they, I don't know if maybe they just aren't good at like condensing the stories
down to a two hour movie rather than like dragging it out across seasons.
Cause they're better at storytelling like that.
I think then their movies.
Definitely.
Yeah.
I, I watch like an episode of the flash during lunch.
Yeah.
I love the flash.
Yeah.
Like there's some season, like there was one season that just bugged the shit out of me.
Have you watched all the, the flash?
We were watching it and like on Netflix until they came out with batwoman and then they
had one of those crossover episodes, like where it's all for the shows that cross over
together.
Right.
And we couldn't watch that one yet.
So we're like, well, wait until we can watch it.
And then we never started watching it again.
So we're not up to date and now bat, is it batwoman or bat girl or batwoman?
Batwoman.
Okay.
Like I saw that that's on HBO max so we could start watching it.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, so, okay.
If you're on the one after batwoman or the crossover after batwoman came out.
So you know, with the flash, the villain, um, cicada.
Yeah.
I hate him.
Uh, yeah.
The dude's voice is so freaking stupid.
Who is that?
Wasn't he the guy from American pie?
That's what I thought too.
And it's no, it's not, it's not him.
It's not him, but I, I was sure.
I swear to you, it is not.
I looked it up.
I'm like, there's no way it's, that's not him.
It is not.
Yeah.
I thought it was.
I'll double check.
I'll double check just cause I'm not a hundred percent sure.
Yeah.
Like I thought it was, but like his character was kind of annoying.
And I thought he was kind of scary.
Oh shit.
Yeah he is.
Okay.
I know.
What's his real name?
Uh, Chris Klein.
Klein.
Okay.
Yeah.
He was in the, yeah.
He was an American pie.
My bad.
It's all good.
Like I don't think he's done much since that anyway.
Like it seemed like he was a rising star and then he was cicada.
Yeah.
So yeah, he was, uh, yeah, he kind of had like a really long span of just doing like
one offs.
Like there's a, yeah.
Yeah.
Just doing like random shows.
Uh, did voice acting for Disney back in 2012.
That's funny.
Um, and then yeah, he did the flash for the 2018, 2019 and then he's in, uh, sweet Magnolias,
which is on Netflix, I think.
Okay.
Oh yeah, I watched that.
It was, it was pretty cute.
Like a little country town show, but he's a jerk.
Like he cheated on his wife and got her, got his mistress pregnant.
And then he left his wife and his kids.
So he has a super douchey looking face.
Yeah.
And like there's a movie that he was in, um, like I think it was right after American pie.
And it's kind of like one of those like, uh, movies like where it's kind of spoofy, but
not really, but like everything is like super vulgar.
And like, it's that kind of humor.
I can't think of what the movie is called, but like me and my sister used to joke around
about it all the time because, um, like he's, I think eating dinner with his family or
yeah, his family or his girlfriend's family.
I don't know.
But anyway, some girl is sitting at the table and their parent corrects them.
And she's like, I did this because I didn't like that.
And I got these because I hate you.
And then she like rips her shirt open.
She has like big cherubs hanging from her nipples.
And we like me and my sister used to joke around about like, like just saying that to
our parents.
So yeah, so we never did.
Was it say it isn't so I think that's what it is.
Yeah, that's the, that's like one movie that he did shortly after American pie.
The other one, they said it was like a romantic drama, but yeah, that was the one like shortly
after American pie.
That is hilarious.
And I have not seen that movie.
Yeah, it was pretty funny.
Yeah, but his acting in the flash was is just so bad.
Yeah.
Like I thought the first season was really good.
With those, he was the bad guy's zoom.
Yeah.
Yeah, like phasing with his hand.
And like the flash is learning all that stuff.
Yeah, like that stuff was super cool.
The only thing that pissed me off about those seasons was his emblem was was red instead
of like white background.
Like how he how it is now.
Okay.
Like is that like representative of the comic books or like is it supposed to be white or
Yeah, like that's how his symbols always been.
It's always been like the gold lightning bolt and like the circle.
And then it's always had like a white background and then it's on his red suit.
And for the show, they're just like, oh, we didn't want to go super comic accurate.
And then everyone got pissed off.
And they're like, okay, whatever, I guess we'll make it white.
Yeah.
It just looks so much better.
Right.
I forgot what I was going to say.
Sorry, I have strong feelings about his suit.
No, it was like who was the guy that works in the lab?
His last name is Ramon.
Oh, Cisco.
Cisco.
Like he's one of my favorite characters.
Like I think there's a scene where he's like fighting a bad guy or something and he's like
saying Harry Potter spells.
Yep.
I love that.
Oh my gosh.
So good.
I think it's super funny.
The like after that, the whole crossover episode, they kind of just merge all the universes
together.
Yeah, I always think that's really cool.
Yeah.
And so he's super confused because for him, this is like a completely new world.
And he like throws a big old fit about how this happened.
It is like throwing him off.
And he's just like, like, I never owned one of these.
And it was like a Superman shirt.
Oh, okay.
And he's just like, what is this?
I don't think I saw that.
I thought it was hilarious because they were just going around like re making people remember
what the like the original.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then he's like looking down.
He's like, what the hell is this?
Yeah.
Um, like another thing I think is really cool is how they always have the, um, the bad guy
from the first season.
I don't know why my memory is just crap.
Like I'm like, let me just explain who the person is.
I cannot remember their name.
Uh, I think his name is Harrison.
Uh, Harrison Wells.
Yeah.
Dr. Wells, like how they have different versions of him that come through the portal.
Those can get annoying.
Yeah, I agree.
Like French Wells bugged it.
Like Sherlock.
Oh my gosh.
Uh, yeah.
I wanted to, but sometimes when they're, I don't know, I always like jerk characters.
So sometimes whenever he's like mean, I'm like, I like him.
Yeah.
But just like, yeah, all of those shows are super good.
And like after I finished flash, I think I'm going to catch up on super girl, make my
way over to arrow and then get to D or the legends of tomorrow.
Cause that's like my favorite out of the four.
Really?
Yeah.
Surprisingly, like I feel like that one's the most cheesy of them all, but I like,
I like how like the characters that they can throw into that without.
Well, and they're all from the different shows.
Like the one sister from, uh, arrow, like was it the black siren?
Like, I have no idea.
Yeah.
The one, the black canary.
Yeah.
And then she became white canary.
Okay.
Uh, then they had Ray Palmer who became the Adam.
Oh, right.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
He was from the arrow or arrow too.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
So they had a bunch of, from that, from arrow and then they had a couple flash characters,
but yeah, super good shows.
Um, getting back on what we were talking about, the movie sucked.
You guys are so easily derailed.
That's very true.
Yes, we are.
Yeah, for sure.
But yes, I agree.
Rose, what?
Sorry.
I think we're done with 4k spotlight now.
So Zach Starr is just asleep.
You guys want to pick that up this Tuesday?
No.
I mean, considering it's on HBO Max, you know, you have it at your disposal.
So yeah, it's like, it's like Caleb, do I even need to send you the code?
I'm kidding.
Not really.
Not if you don't want.
What the hell am I going to do with it?
I mean, if you're buying it anyway, I mean, why not?
Yeah.
Okay, so moving on into this week's sneak sneak peeks.
No, it's through the wall.
Wait, right?
Or is it?
Wait, is it this week's sneak peeks or through the wall?
Through the wall.
Okay.
I'll remember one episode.
I promise.
So, the only thing that we really are going to talk about is the Spider-Man Far From Home.
No Way Home.
God damn it.
Killing it, Rose.
That's it.
I'm out this episode.
That's all you guys.
The Spider-Man No Way Home official teaser trailer that came out, I want to say like
two Mondays ago.
Yes.
Okay.
So, I don't know.
It was kind of a mediocre trailer.
I don't know about you guys.
Dude, what?
I thought it was good.
I'm kidding.
No.
You are out of your freaking mind.
Too bad reviews.
I know, right?
I'm going to roll this episode.
The worst.
Just watch.
I'm going to hate Shang-Chi.
Wouldn't that be so funny?
No.
Oh, shit.
But yes, so if you guys haven't seen the trailer, where the hell have you been?
This is the most watched trailer of all time now.
It beat Avengers Endgame by a lot.
Actually, I forget the actual numbers.
But within 24 hours, it had I think over 30 million views.
Yeah, I think it's up to 54 million.
It's freaking up there now.
But this has been a very highly anticipated movie, especially with all the stuff that
they're in talks about throwing in.
I feel like some people are building themselves up a little too high.
That's the problem I have.
Everyone's just like, oh, yeah, all the Spider-Mans are going to be in this.
They're going to bring back all of these villains.
The whole Sinister Six is going to be there.
I'm like, guys, can we just wait for the movie?
If you keep speculating, if you keep saying, oh, this is going to happen, this is going
to happen, you're going to be disappointed.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I mean, that's true if you're setting yourself up to fail, expecting all these things to
happen and you're like, where was it?
It's best to just go in kind of blind and then be surprised.
This is basically what happened with WandaVision.
You guys watched?
Yeah.
You guys, okay, cool.
Yeah.
Everyone was speculating like, oh, the big villain is Mephisto, the MCU's version of
the devil.
Like, oh, that's who's behind all this.
That's who's behind all this.
It's just, no.
Just wait for the movie to end or the show to end.
Right.
Dude, the best part about WandaVision speaking of, I was listening to the episode where we
recapped when they announced all those Disney Plus shows and apparently I didn't realize
we hated the name.
We hated WandaVision.
Oh, really?
They're going to change it.
They're so going to change it.
I mean, do you still think they should?
No, I love the name.
I stand by what I said.
I wasn't the biggest fan.
I understand why they went with WandaVision, but I'm still not the biggest fan of the name.
Okay.
Sorry, I cut you off.
It sounded like you're going to say something.
Was it just that you don't like the name?
Yeah, that was basically it.
My bad.
Which one of the shows was your favorite out of those?
What is it?
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier?
Loki?
Did you not like that?
No, I loved Loki.
I loved all of them.
Me too.
It's always been the latest one.
I loved WandaVision, and then when Falcon and the Winter Soldier came out, I'm like,
oh, I freaking love this show.
Then I'm like, how can you top this?
He becomes Captain America.
Then they upped it with Loki, and I'm like, this is great.
Now I'm on Team What If.
I freaking love the What If series.
We've only seen the first episode.
I saw that they have one with the Black Panther that I'm antsy to watch, but also I'm like,
I don't know.
Is it sad?
No.
Okay.
They do have a little tribute for Shadow of Boseman at the end because he was able to
record all of his lines for this show.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
He was in the entirety of the second episode.
It was bittersweet hearing him talk, but you could tell he was having a good time with
it.
Awesome.
Yeah, definitely have to look at that.
Is there any other episodes?
Because we only saw the first one where the Captain America was a woman.
Yeah.
So there's that one.
There is What If T'Challa Became Star-Lord.
The third one was What If Earth Lost Its Mightiest Avengers.
And then the most recent one today was the Doctor Strange one.
Okay.
So we're pretty far behind.
Just three episodes.
We only have 30 minutes each, so you could catch them very easily.
Yeah.
The Doctor Strange one was really good.
The last one, the one with the Earth Lost Its Mightiest Avengers or Mightiest Heroes,
that one messed me up.
Really?
It made me sad.
And you'll see why as long as you remember that Hulk is my favorite character.
Okay.
Yeah.
I hope that doesn't spoil anything.
But yeah.
Like, why is Hulk your favorite?
So growing up, you're just going to get me on a big old tangent here, aren't you?
Yeah.
I mean, this is a talking show.
I'm not doing the talking.
You are.
For me personally, growing up, before church on Sundays, my dad and I, after we had gotten
dressed up and were just waiting to go, we would sit down and turn on TV.
And usually it was like TV land and they had all of those old shows going.
So we were watching The Incredible Hulk, the one with Lou Freignau.
Oh, okay.
The TV show.
Yeah.
So I grew up watching that.
Those are terrible.
I respectfully disagree.
Like, my main problem with the Hulk is why doesn't his pants rip off?
Just his ankles.
He always looks shit wrecked.
That is a fair assessment.
I mean, I get it, but it doesn't make sense.
But I remember watching that when I was younger too.
And it was good for the times.
They didn't really have much special effects or anything.
But I love watching old stuff like that.
I saw on the Roku channel, they have the old Batman series with Adam West.
And I was watching through that.
And I used to watch that after school every day.
And that's how I started loving Batman.
So I get it.
But it's just funny looking back at it now compared to Marvel.
But I have such a soft spot for Lou Freignau's Hulk.
I actually went back and rewatched the entire series because it was on Hulu and I freaking
loved it.
I knew, I'm like, OK, this is super cheesy every time he transforms.
But it is so cool.
So I had that.
And then when I started getting into Hulk as a character, there was just a lot of similarities
between me and him.
I wouldn't say I had anger issues.
Did you experiment with gamma rays?
No.
He's like, I don't only build shelves.
I've also failed at experiments.
I'm sorry.
And now I can't get angry.
No, I had a really difficult time.
I'm not sure if you listened to or how much of the episode with DJ that you listened to.
Actually I haven't heard it yet.
No.
OK.
It was very long and I was like, I don't know.
That's fair.
That is absolutely fair.
Even if Vicks says it's long, you know it's long.
I mean, I'm sure it's like nonstop entertainment because DJ is definitely a chatty Cathy.
I was like, oh, three hours.
So we were getting into some issues I had growing up.
I wouldn't call them anger issues, but it's just like hard time controlling my anger.
I would just let things build up for a really long time and then I would just explode on
someone.
So what really happened to the shelf?
It did not fall off the wall.
You have no idea how much I was praying that it wasn't my whole shelf.
Well, now let's get serious, have you done anything to work on that?
I think I was reading up on Hulk as a character and Bruce Banner and just the way that they
talk about anger and dealing with a side that you don't like, which for me the side I didn't
like was when I would explode on some unfortunate soul.
It just helped me relate to the character a bit more.
At the end of the day, is your wife like, the sun's getting low?
I wish that'd be great.
But I mean, it's good that you recognize that in yourself so you can try to not do the things
that you don't like.
I think that was just what was super great about Marvel characters.
They were easy to relate to.
Unlike DC, I feel like their characters are just so overpowered and just are put on such
a high pedestal.
It's hard to relate to them.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, I can't really see myself in Bruce Wayne.
Poor, like my parents are alive.
But I don't know why I love Batman so much.
Maybe it's just because he's a regular person that has to use gadgets and his wits.
But beyond that, I can't say that I really personally relate to the character, but I
love it.
I think with them, it's just a major, they have an ideal that they are.
Superman is supposed to be this picture of perfection.
And obviously, Clark Kent has issues and has to deal with the real world occasionally.
But Batman, I can never relate to Batman because he's just everything that I'm not.
It was also what they stood for.
Superman was just all about justice and Batman was about vengeance.
They pushed so hard onto that ideal that it was really hard to get into when Marvel characters,
they were struggling with something that they had to overcome that was very human and that
whatever they were dealing with made them struggle against their villains.
And then they had to overcome that obstacle in their life to finally be the person that
they needed to be to defeat the villain.
OK, I mean, yeah, that's really deep.
Yeah, I just can't remember what I was going to say again.
I just feel so scatterbrained, guys.
I'm sorry.
You're fine.
This has been so much fun.
Have we even talked about Spider-Man yet?
I don't think so.
All right.
So Beth, you said you liked the trailer.
Yes.
Have you seen like the other Spider-Man movies too?
I like the old ones with Tobey Maguire and who was the other Garfield?
Yeah, Garfield.
I don't remember the one with Andrew Garfield, but I've seen all the Tobey Maguire ones like
probably multiple times.
Yeah.
So did you know that Alfred Molina was going to come back as Doc Ock or was that like a
surprise?
A surprise.
Yeah, no, it was a surprise.
Oh my gosh, that must have been so good.
Yeah.
With how much we keep up on movie news, it's so hard to surprise us in trailers.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
We knew Alfred Molina was going to be coming back like how long ago?
Like months ago.
I will agree though that Green Goblin Pumpkin Bomb did surprise me.
That one took me off guard.
I didn't expect that to come out.
I heard a lot of speculation about that and like I know Willem Dafoe was being like super
secretive.
Like was that in the trailer?
I don't know.
Yeah, so it was the pumpkin bomb, the little orange ball with the green on it.
It gets thrown out of the smoke right before Doc Ock appears.
Oh, okay.
I don't know if I noticed it.
Sorry.
Because I only watched it once in passing, DJ was like, hey, look at this.
I was watching it, but I wasn't like a thousand percent paying attention until the end and
I was like, oh my God, is that?
So I didn't notice that.
Sorry, guys.
No, you're good.
Good.
Yeah, they had a lot of like the main ones that they showcased were Green Goblin and
Doc Ock, but apparently they had a lot of like those hidden villains.
Like one of the big ones was the yellow lightning was supposed to show off Jamie Foxx's Electro
from the Andrew Garfield movies.
Okay.
So he had more than one movie.
I don't know if I've ever seen them actually.
Yeah.
So he had one with...
So Andrew Garfield had two movies.
The first one was with The Lizard and then the second one was with Jamie Foxx where he
was like blue.
The Lightning Electro guy.
I'm going to guess I have not seen those.
Yeah.
You're not missing a lot.
I mean, Andrew Garfield's performance is really good in those.
I feel they're still worth a watch.
Yeah.
I mean, I would watch it.
I like Spider-Man.
Like I would try it, but I just, I don't know how we missed those.
Yeah, they're definitely worth a watch.
I mean, maybe DJ didn't.
So I gave DJ the password to my Voodoo account and both of those movies are on there.
Okay.
Yeah.
Feel free to go watch those.
All right.
But yeah.
So Jamie Foxx is going to be coming back.
I'm pretty sure that was confirmed, right?
Or was that just speculation?
I don't know actually.
I thought it was, but I don't know anymore.
Yeah.
So he was supposed to come back, but he did say that he wasn't going to be blue like he
was in the Andrew Garfield movie.
And so that's why everyone's just like, oh, it's the yellow lightning, the classic color
that Electro used from the comics.
And so that was something that they thought then there was like this big sand wall.
And so people are thinking, oh, it's Sandman.
Okay.
I remember him.
Yeah.
And then there was a, it looked like Tom Holland was like kind of behind a shield or something
or like some sort of force field and someone was coming to like hit on it.
And it was just like a really dark figure.
So some people were speculating that that might've been the lizard and some people are
thinking that it's venom.
I could see that.
Yeah.
So there's just like a lot of little Easter eggs getting hidden everywhere through this.
And then me and Vic were talking and like the whole scene on the train, we thought that
this was going to be like a Spider-Man versus Dr. Strange fight.
Right.
Which would be trippy.
But the reason that we thought that was because they were facing each other.
And I think if it was like some move that Dr. Strange was doing to help Peter, I think
he'd be facing the other direction.
Okay.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
But I freaking loved it.
And Alfred Molina, dude, he looks so good.
Like I feel he looks better than he did in the first or the Spider-Man 2.
Like you don't think any of it's like CGI, like to make him look...
If it is, it looks amazing.
Okay.
I mean, he might just look that good still.
Yeah.
Well, we saw him, at least the last movie I remember seeing him in was Promising Young
Woman.
Okay.
And he looked great in that movie.
I heard that was a really good movie, but I haven't seen it.
Yeah, it was super good.
We actually rated that one.
What did we give it?
Oh, we gave it an A minus.
Okay.
Speaking of that, I still need to send you that code.
I have to admit, I only listen to the ones where I've seen the movie in case I want to
watch it because I don't want it to be spoiled.
We get it.
Yeah.
Like, I know a long time ago I was joking around about not being able to watch Scoob
whenever you guys were rating it and like, son of a bitch.
But now we finally got to watch it on HBO.
I'm like, I have to go back and see what they said.
It was a really cute movie.
I loved it.
Yeah, we ended up liking it too, I think.
It was a long time ago.
We mostly liked the Mystery Inc. parts.
Yes.
Oh, really?
Yeah, not everything else.
At least I did.
I mean, I guess I grew up watching the Cartoon Network with all those Hanna-Barbera cartoons.
They had racing cartoons where they're all trying to win a race.
We would see Dick Dasterdly and Muttley always pulling tricks and stuff trying to win.
I kind of like those characters too and how Muttley is just always chuckling.
My gosh, I freaking love Muttley.
Yeah.
Any other note?
Anything else you guys want to say about the Spider-Man trailer?
I mean, I've said as much as I feel I can without getting too deep.
This is just amazing how many little things people pointed out on the internet about this
trailer.
Someone pointed out with the whole Doc Oxen, like, oh my gosh, Tom Holland is in the exact
same suit that Tom McGuire was in Spider-Man 3 at the beginning.
I'm like, that's what you pick up on?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Dude, it's insane what people catch.
Like, hell, I'm freaking rewatching the trailer over and over again.
I started picking stuff up too.
There was a lot of scenes where I talked about this with Vic where I'm like, I'm pretty sure
we're getting lied to on some of these shots.
For example, I don't think the train scene where him and Doctor Strange are on the train
and he's doing that weird magic trick, I don't think that's actually taking place in the
Grand Canyon.
I think that it's taking place in the city.
Beauty of Green Screen.
Yeah.
I just think that maybe they just did that to...
Maybe there was a spoiler in the background and they didn't want to give it away.
Because they did that with Thor Ragnarok where they thought...
Where Thor and Hela were in an alleyway when Hela breaks Mjolnir, but it ended up being
out in the open field.
Okay.
So they deceived us on purpose.
Yeah.
And then there was the big scene where Thor comes smashing down and he has both of his
eyes, but in the movie, one of his eyes is missing.
Oh, yeah.
That's definitely one of the best ones.
So I was just talking through those.
I'm like, we're getting lied to on something.
There was another one where Tom Holland, it looked like he was talking to this woman in
the car, but she just had a really blank expression on her face.
And I'm like, that looks like a fake person.
I'm pretty sure that's not actually who he's talking to.
Okay.
But there's just stuff like that.
I was picking up a lot on, that looks fake.
Do you think they still put the most exciting scenes in movie trailers to try to reel people
in?
How do you guys watch movie trailers?
You seek them out.
How do you know about them?
For me, it depends on the movie.
For some fan pages I'm a part of, they'll be like, oh, the trailer just got leaked.
I'm sure they're going to release it either today or tomorrow.
And so I'll be checking social media constantly just for them to finally actually release it.
Okay.
Because now with watching streaming services with no commercials, I don't feel like we're
getting all the trailers like we would if we were still watching cable or regular TV.
Now we have to know what's coming and look for it.
Yeah.
That is absolutely true.
Yeah.
I follow a lot of movie news pages and I knew this trailer got leaked.
I will never go and actively seek out the leaked trailers.
I will only watch what's been officially released by Marvel.
Okay.
Do you just not want to be spoiled or you don't want to, why don't you watch the leaked
ones?
That's usually the case.
I feel like the ones that get leaked, especially ones through Comic Cons or whatever, well,
Comic Cons are a little bit different, but one where it's just like, oh, this trailer
got leaked.
It's not officially out yet.
I feel like for some reason those seem to have a lot more spoilers than the trailer
itself.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, sometimes I feel like they're setting us up for big payoffs too with those trailers
that they're releasing.
So if you see something out of school or out of turn or whatever, then it might ruin the
whole thing for you.
I'm not a big fan of knowing everything about something at first.
I like to watch movies not knowing anything about it so I can just be totally immersed
in the story instead of thinking about, well, I already know what's going to happen.
When's it going to happen?
Yeah.
I will never... Anytime they're like, oh, there's behind the scenes footage that someone
caught on their camera, I will never watch that because that usually ends up being... The
only thing that I'll look up where it's a behind the scenes picture, I'll only do that
for suits.
The TV show?
Yeah.
And vehicles.
Like the Ms. Marvel, they were like, oh, we finally got a picture of what Ms. Marvel's
going to look like in her super suit.
And so I'll look at a picture of that.
But if it was just like, oh, we got this footage of them shooting a scene, oh, I'm like, no,
I won't watch that.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Just because I like seeing the suits.
I'm like, I just want to make sure the suit looks good.
And then they did that with the second Shazam movie.
They updated all the suits.
And so I think it was Zachary Levi.
He posted a picture of the new suit.
Really?
Yeah.
And it looks pretty good.
Yeah.
I wonder how the... The only thing about that, I'm wondering how they're going to justify
that with it being a magical suit.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Wait, does he get... Can he just do that?
Yeah, you can just change it.
Why not?
It's magic.
Did you guys ever watch Chuck?
It was the show that Zachary Levi was on.
And he had a... It was a good show.
Was it?
It was a really good show, yeah.
I mean, it was kind of cheesy sometimes, but it's where this guy gets a computer, somebody
sends it to him.
A spy sends it to him and it downloads to his brain.
And then these two spies have to protect him because people are trying to access it.
And he... Sometimes if he needs to learn something really fast, he can access it and
it's called the Intersect.
So if he needs to learn Kung Fu or something, he could.
So I don't know.
It was pretty good.
That sounds super cool.
Yeah, it might be a little bit dated now because I think it came out maybe in the mid 2000s.
Oh, geez.
Yeah, but we liked it.
I'm interested.
I really like Zachary Levi.
Yeah.
He's a lot bigger than I thought he was.
He's really tall.
Is he?
I don't know.
He looks... Maybe he's not.
He looks like it on TV.
Yeah.
Like on Chuck, he was tall and lanky, but in the...
Six, three.
Holy shit.
Damn.
Yeah, you're not wrong, Beth.
He is very tall.
All right.
Well, he's only an inch taller than me.
Really?
You're that tall too?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm six, two.
Okay, yeah.
You're pretty tall.
Yeah, I was expecting you to say six, five with that reaction.
Oh, no.
Anything above six foot is tall to me, so...
Me too.
Like me and DJ are... I think DJ's like five, three and five, four.
I don't wear heel.
Yeah.
Geez.
He's pretty short.
He probably didn't want me to tell you that.
So, those are the facts.
I hope to get a message from him when this comes out and be like, I'm actually five,
four.
Yeah, I'm actually six, four.
I'm taller than Chuck and Caleb.
Caleb's a lot taller than me, so that makes him feel any better.
Maybe not a lot.
I mean, do you have to get stuff off of high shelves for people?
Is there any perks to being super tall?
Not really.
I mean, yeah, I wouldn't say there's really any perks.
Most people, unless they're super short or really old, no one really asks me for help
grabbing stuff off of top shelves.
So you don't get to use your superpower.
I have a feeling my daughter's going to be super tall.
Really?
Yeah, because people have been saying she went to a wellness check today and the doctors
are saying like, wow, she's really tall, especially for her age because she's only 19 months old
and she's already taller than a lot of two and three year olds.
Oh my gosh.
Is your wife tall?
She's five, ten.
So yes.
She's just like a little bit shorter than me, but not much.
Yeah.
But I don't think the average height is over five, eight or for ladies.
That's usually where models start weighing in.
So we have a feeling she's going to be real tall.
Yeah.
Well good.
When you're old, she can get stuff off the shelf for you.
Yep.
There we go.
It's a wonderful circle.
I hope I don't become like an old, like a fragile old man.
Like do you think you're going to be really mean because I feel like I'm starting to lean
towards getting pissed off more about nothing?
I don't know.
I'm already really bitchy.
So probably.
No, I don't know.
I feel like everyone in my family, no one in my family, at least that I've met so far,
has become like old and fragile.
Yeah.
Before they've died, they've all had their wits about them.
Like my great uncle passed away a couple years ago.
He was 94 years old.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
You want to know how he died?
Wasn't of old age?
No, he ran himself over on accident.
Oh my gosh.
How?
So he was driving around in his truck and he owned a ranch and he was getting out to
check on something but didn't put his emergency brake on and got in front of the truck and
the truck just kind of like snuck up on him and hit him and like, yeah, ran him over.
And at 94 years old, he was still like breaking horses.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
I've always told everyone, I'm like, the Elmbers family have to be escorted off the planet.
Like a great grandfather of mine, he freaking had a brain hemorrhage that wasn't found.
It wasn't very common in people, it was like most common in horses.
Oh.
Yeah.
And like on the report, it just said, no idea how this guy had this hemorrhage that is found
in horses.
Like I found his destitute getting everything.
The Elmbers family is a very stubborn group.
It's nuts.
And like I didn't really know my dad when I was a kid.
Like I didn't meet him, my real dad, until I was like 28.
And like it was good because like me and DJ didn't get married until like I was 29.
And so he got to come to my wedding.
So it was nice.
And then I got to meet him and I got to meet some of my other family and like his mother
was alive and she was like 103 years old.
Oh my gosh.
It was like, yeah, exactly.
I'm like, oh, I got them good genes.
I'm going to live forever.
But then like he got ALS and then like he just recently passed away from it because
he couldn't like he lost all like movement and he was just like trapped in his body.
So I'm like, son of a bitch.
Like that's terrible.
Yeah.
I mean, it's OK.
Like I am definitely sad about it, but like it's better that he's not trapped in his
body because that was worse.
Yeah.
So but like probably not going to live forever.
Yeah.
You'll beat the odds.
Yeah.
I mean, you don't.
Yeah, that's the.
That's some scary shit.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you see people doing like the ice bucket challenge and stuff.
You're like, oh, that's crazy.
You're like, maybe I should donate or something.
And then, you know, the next thing you know, someone in your family has it.
And you're like, wait a minute.
What?
You guys should donate.
Yeah, I.
That is like a big fear of mine.
I don't want something to happen where like that I don't want to be stuck in my body.
Right.
Like I would like I like push me into traffic if that happens.
No, like just put some extra morphine in your like in your IV.
Like I don't want to get hit by a car.
But if you don't die and you can still feel you can't move.
I mean, fair.
But I don't know.
I've always said I'm just like, just if I can't like bathe myself, just put me down.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's one of the main thing, too, with like becoming old.
Like you how much dignity do you lose?
Yeah.
That's why I said I don't want to become old and fragile.
Like I want to go out like my my uncle did.
I want to get like I want to be escorted to the gates of hell.
Like I want God to be like, you don't have an option.
You're coming now.
Right.
Yeah.
Well, you just said you wanted to be escorted to the gates of hell.
But then you said, oh, no.
Yeah.
But then you brought in God.
I'm confused.
Are you going to heaven or hell?
Well, he can send me to hell.
Oh, OK.
I mean, I already know I'm going there, so I'll see you there.
I'll be a freaking party.
Yeah.
Be you, me, my buddy, J.C.
It's going to be awesome.
Oh, well, we got off track.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah.
So how about that?
Spider-Man, no way home.
Yeah.
All right.
So we do this with every trailer, excitement level out of 10.
Where are you guys at?
Am I going first?
Yeah, you can, since Rose is taking forever.
No, Rose can go.
Sorry.
Like, I wasn't sure if I should wait.
Is there a signal?
I don't know.
I mean, Caleb should have a signal for this.
I don't know.
Our show isn't as well put together as most.
We thought, I would say that we thought it was well put together, but apparently not.
I think it is.
Like, we just freaking throw some bumpers on the front and back and we don't hardly
do any editing.
Like sometimes we record the night before it's due at the very last minute.
Like I try to listen to them.
So like sometimes I get super embarrassed about some things that I like say on the podcast
and like, I don't know if I should have said that or I don't want to look stupid.
So I like to listen to them before they're released, but sometimes not so much.
Yeah I won't listen to episodes before I release.
I'll listen to like the beginning to make sure the intro sounds like okay and I'll listen
to the end to make sure it ends where it's supposed to.
But other than that, I don't listen to it until maybe like a few weeks after it's been
released.
Really?
Yeah.
What about you, Rose?
I actually for the most part listen to our episodes every Monday when I have to do the
juicing of my job.
You think that would listen to another podcast, but no, apparently I like to listen to myself.
Me too.
Yeah.
I think it just helps you reflect.
But anyway, one out of ten, what are you guys at?
I'm absolutely at a four.
I'm just kidding.
Oh okay.
I was like whoa.
Geez, dude, I'm going to freaking punch you.
Okay, come on, come on, fly out to Utah.
Let's go.
All right, so four.
Oh, is that your real number?
I thought you were joking.
Yeah, I'm going to go with ten too because I'm just excited about any new Marvel movies.
Yeah, that makes three of us.
I'm super excited for this one.
The Doc Oxene alone freaking got me, but knowing that we're going to get something related
to the Green Goblin.
Oh gosh.
That was so good.
Yeah, I really like Willem Dafoe.
He's creepy.
Some people were saying I'm kind of pissed off that they put him under a mask for Green
Goblin.
Right.
Yeah.
You could just morph his face a little bit.
Like they did with Dane DeHaan in Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Yeah, a little bit.
Dude, did you know that originally their first concept for Green Goblin, he was supposed
to have an animatronic mask.
Oh, I didn't know.
I do remember hearing about that.
Yeah, they had to change it to Power Ranger.
Yeah, exactly.
Why?
No idea.
Why, Caleb?
No clue.
No idea why they did that.
Like me and DJ always joke around about me being a Y wife.
Have you caught that on the podcast?
Oh my gosh.
You're like, oh, we're in danger.
Get down.
Why?
There's a whole, like a Belle Engel joke about that where he was telling his wife, he's just
like, you know what?
You never listen to me.
And she's just like, he said he put her book down and just like, what are you talking about?
He's just like, you never listen to me.
Like if we were walking down the street and something happened where there's this big
old wrecking ball coming straight for your head and I told you to duck, you would turn
around and say, what?
And then you would die.
Yep.
And she's just like, you know what?
You're right.
I would never listen to you because if every time you told me to duck, I ducked, you would
do it just to mess with me.
Yeah, exactly.
Can't trust them.
Oh my gosh.
You and my wife would get along.
Oh really?
Is she a Y wife too?
Yes, very much so.
Well, it's not that I just don't trust what he's saying or I don't want to listen to what
he's saying, but I'm like, maybe I can help.
Which is probably worse.
Yeah.
It's funny because it's like, she does it to me and I'll express how much it irritates
me to them.
You don't have to ask me why about everything.
Sometimes I just want to complain.
And then same thing with her.
They'll start talking about something and be like, what would you do about this?
And I'm like, oh, well, I would do this, this and this.
And then I'll come up with a solution later and be like, hey, what if we did this, this,
this or this?
And she's just like, Caleb, I don't need you to fix everything for me.
I just want you to listen.
And I'm like, what?
Yeah.
That happens with us a lot too.
Sometimes I feel like when I'm talking about my work problems, DJ's just on autopilot while
I'm just like, I'm also on autopilot while I'm like spewing these words at him.
And like, I just have to say them out loud, I guess.
And it doesn't even matter that he's listening or not.
And I, if I quizzed him on it, I know for sure he's not, but I'm like, I just have to say
it.
Yeah.
But it's the same too, like the opposite way.
Like sometimes it'll be like, right.
And I'm like, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That happens all the time.
Like I think what bugs me is that she doesn't want to, she doesn't want me to fix her problems,
but she does want me to under like hear and understand her problems.
Yeah.
And so I'm like, cause usually like when, when I just am just talking to talk, she'll
play on her phone or just like do something and then I can just get it out and be like,
all right, thanks.
And leave.
And then her, she'll do like the same thing.
I'm like, okay, do you need me to fix this?
And she's like, no, I just need you to listen.
I'm like, all right, great.
And then I'll go and do something on my phone.
She's like, you're not listening.
And I'm like, like you never listened to me.
Like you said, I didn't need to fix it.
My, my part here is done.
It's never done, Caleb.
Unfortunately no.
Yeah.
Anyway, sorry.
You're good.
It's turning into a therapy episode.
I know that's what the last one turned into too.
That's true.
It did.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I mean, I, with, with Beth, I freaking talk about my, my relationship with my wife and
then with DJ talk about the relationship with my parents.
Oh, really?
We've, we had a big old spiel about that.
Okay.
Like even, I need to listen to it.
Even Vic messaged me and he's just like, dude, this just turned into a therapy session for
you.
And I'm like, yeah, I know.
I want to say that part alone went on for like 30 minutes.
It went on for a while.
Like, did you uncover anything that you're like, oh yeah.
I am mad at him.
No, he was just asking me a lot about my parents.
And I was telling him that like my dad thinks our podcast is stupid and a waste of time
and all this other stuff.
And DJ is like, I want to get him on or dragging the table.
And I'm like, no, I would not do that to you, DJ.
Like what does your dad do?
Like for work?
Yeah.
Construction.
Or like for a hobby.
Like does he have anything that he does that you think is stupid?
Unfortunately no.
Like my dad does construction for work, which is just like a not as refined version of what
I want to do with woodworking.
Okay.
And then like his hobby, he like has like, if you say basic, like boy hobbies, it's like
guns, cars and motorcycles.
Okay.
Like, isn't it crazy that your parents can say something that you like is stupid, but
it's hard for you to like turn it around on them.
You're like, everything he does is the right thing.
Yeah.
It sucks.
Cause like my brother is super into that kind of stuff.
I'm not like, I don't understand guns at all.
Like I like shooting guns.
I know how to use guns, but if you were to throw some number at me, be like, what kind
of weapons use this?
I'm like, I don't know.
And then like same thing with like, I tell everyone, like anytime I go to like a mechanic
to get something fixed on my car, I'm like, well, it's making like a weird noise.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're not trained to be a mechanic, like how are you supposed to know?
Yeah.
So I don't understand that stuff, which my dad and brother like automatically know what's
wrong.
Like I can go and be like, it's making this noise and they're like, oh, it's probably
this.
Like, how do you know?
Yeah.
They just know.
Yeah.
So it's like that kind of stuff that I wish I was into, or I feel like as a man I should
be into, but I'm not, I'm like, no, I freaking love superheroes and talking about movies.
Are you guys into sports?
No.
Good.
Cause we hate sports.
I mean, it's not that we really hate them, but we just aren't into it.
And I'm like, so glad that we're on the same page with that.
Like both of us are not like, or either one of us is like, Oh, I gotta catch the big game.
Like legit, like that fricking sucks too.
And everyone just like starts cheering.
I'm like, Oh, yeah.
So, I mean, anytime we have, anytime we've gone to like a, a Superbowl party, like I
could care less about the game.
I'm just like, I'm just here for the snacks, man.
And then I hear, and then I see the Marvel studios logo come up and I'm like, shut up.
I'm like, everyone shut the hell up.
That seems right.
But like, yeah, we, I don't even think we've ever gone to like a Superbowl party.
Like I think we've talked about before how like, whenever that whole thing with Janet
Jackson's like boob slip happened, like we were doing like crossword puzzle.
Or at least I was, I don't know what DJ was doing, but it wasn't watching the Superbowl.
And then that's just like what everyone's talking about the next day.
And like the internet wasn't that good back then.
Like it was kind of like shoddy.
So it's not like you'd be like, Oh, let me go back and watch it.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So the only sport that I actually understand a little bit about doesn't even exist.
Oh, what is it?
Quidditch.
That's exactly it.
Really?
Yeah.
Like legit, like I understand Quidditch most are better than any other sport.
Oh, how did I know?
How did I know?
I mean, it looks like fun if you could ride a broom.
Yeah.
But that like, yeah, that's the only sport that I understand even a little bit.
And I, yeah.
And I played T ball as a kid.
I still don't understand baseball.
Really?
Okay.
Yeah.
I know the bases.
I know what a home run is, but if someone's just like, Oh, he's in the left outfield.
I'm like, yeah, like what's an RBI?
Or so or someone's like, Oh, this is his batting average.
I'm like, I don't know what the hell that means.
Right.
Is that good?
I don't know.
Yeah.
I just kind of match the tone.
The average is like, Oh, his batting average is only this.
I'm like, well, that sucks.
Like we've been to a few hockey games and I thought that was kind of fun because it's
kind of like aggressive.
And it's like sometimes when you go to like baseball or something, it's like hot outside,
but hockey is on ice.
You're like, Oh, this is pretty comfortable.
So it's not like, I don't know.
I thought those games are kind of fun there.
Do I watch it on TV?
Yeah.
Hockey is kind of cool.
Yeah.
Like I went to one hockey game and they like started fighting in the middle of the ring.
I'm like, this is awesome.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, I think I might go to like a wrestling match or something like that because it's
like all entertainment, like over the top crazy stuff.
Yeah.
Like, I could like after watching that hockey game, I'm like, I can totally see why people
are into WWE now.
Like, I don't really think it's real.
Like I think it's mostly like athleticism and like acting, but I mean, they put on a
show.
You think it's real?
Both of you guys do?
No, I, WWE.
My dad, I knew it wasn't.
Yeah.
Hockey.
I think, I think there is some realism to hockey.
Yeah.
Like they're super aggressive in hockey, but like, and no, you go.
I was going to say, like, I've seen videos of how like a guy got his throat sliced from
someone.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
It's so disturbing.
He's really scary.
Thankfully the guy survived.
How would you like to be at that game?
No.
Like son of a bitch, now we have to forfeit.
I don't care if he's going to die.
I'm just joking.
Do you guys know how to ice skate?
Like are y'all both from Utah?
And I just said that really, really country accent.
Are y'all both from Utah?
Do they ice skate there?
Like do you guys get like full on winters or like, what's, what's the weather like?
Like they have ice rinks in Utah.
They just, I've been like, I know how to roller blade.
So basically the same thing, right?
Yeah.
Kind of.
I've heard people say it's not.
Well, I mean, I've just heard many people say it's a lot harder.
It takes a lot more.
Yeah.
Like I only tried once and it was really hard.
Like I could roller blade, but I could not ice skate because they felt like my ankles
were just like turning in and I'm like, this can't be good.
I'm not coordinated with anything.
Like I can't skateboard.
I can't ski.
Rollerblading I'm like, all right at.
Yeah.
Like I wasn't a good roller skater.
Like, um, like I roller bladed a little bit like on our like street by our house, but
it was all like Rocky and like, I'm probably going to break my face.
So like that streak didn't last very long, but like rollerblades with like the inline
wheels or whatever, I could do that.
But the four wheels, I just couldn't figure it out.
And like, I'm afraid I'm going to fall.
Well, the ones with like the, like the four wheels in a line, like those ones make sense
because the brake is on the heel.
Yeah.
The freaking, the, the weird four ones, like the brake is on the front.
Like no, that's not how it works.
Yeah.
It seems like you're going to go flying forward.
Like we try to break.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So I try to keep my feet planted.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
I was really good at riding the ripstick.
You guys remember those?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
I was super good at those until I had hit like any sort of rock.
Right.
Yeah.
That's the only thing I feel I had coordination for other than like a scooter and a bike.
Yeah.
So you say they have ice rinks, but did you guys get like snow storms or like?
Yeah, we would get snow or well, Utah gets snow storms all the time.
But I don't think, at least I don't know of anyone that would like go out on a lake and
an ice skate.
Okay.
So it wasn't like that heavy.
Like it was heavy enough to like freeze over lakes and stuff.
Like I know a bunch of people that would go like ice fishing, but.
Okay.
Sorry.
I'm just curious because I've never been to Utah and I don't know much about it.
You're not missing much.
No, I'm sorry to say that, but you're really not.
I mean, the mountains are beautiful.
We get snow, but that's really it.
Unless Caleb, you got anything, even though you're a Utah trader.
Yeah.
Yeah, Utah is also like really dry.
Like the air is really dry.
Yeah.
Like that's one thing.
Asthma do not come here.
Yeah.
Really?
I'm dying over here for how bad the weather, the air has been for the past couple months.
Yeah.
It's something I've had to adjust to being in Georgia now is like the air feels heavy.
Right.
Yeah, like it's the same here in Florida, like how it's kind of like humid.
So it's like heavy.
Yeah.
So like I don't like that.
I have when I do get out of the shower, I feel like I'm wet for like three hours.
Oh, really?
Like it.
Yeah.
It's like just like stays on you.
Yeah.
Yeah, but Utah weather, it can get rough if you're not used to it.
Like why did you leave Utah?
Is that too personal?
No.
Okay.
No, we left because there's a specialist facility for a medical condition my wife has.
Okay.
And we just kind of wanted a fresh start.
Okay.
My dad being like a contractor, he's kind of friends with everyone out there.
And anytime I would go to like apply for a job, because I wanted to do woodworking, but
like the nice finishing stuff, like building cabinets or whatever, I would try and go get
a job with them.
But a lot of places would refuse to hire me or just flat out tell me like, oh, we don't
want to lose business with your dad.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And they're like, so if it doesn't work out with you, we don't want to like fire you and
you'd go tell your dad and he gets mad and just like cuts us off.
I'm like,
They're like, well, I'll tell them you didn't hire me.
Have them cut you off.
How do you like those apples?
So it's super hard to get into the field that I wanted to.
I mean, I liked my job.
I was driving a dumpster truck, but it was just like just garbage all day.
Okay.
Like, do you do something different now?
Yeah, I work at Gulfstream building cabinets for private jets.
Okay.
Wow.
Yeah.
Still not exactly what I want to be doing.
Because like they work with fiberglass and like really light material.
So I don't get to work with with lumber as much as I like.
Like what is your favorite type of wood?
Like what would you like to get like a big hunk of and like carve it into something?
Anything that's not pine.
Walnuts really nice.
I could go on forever about this, but I'm not going to.
I mean, if we want to, if you want to talk about lumber after this, like, oh my gosh,
you almost unlocked that.
All right.
Maybe next time.
Yeah, I'd have to change the name of this episode to lumber breakdown.
Like, and let me tell you what I like about cherry.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I'm just curious about everything.
Because you know, why?
I got you.
Anyway, one getting this this breakdown now.
Sure.
All right, so for this week's Albrose headliner, we'll be breaking down the think this came
out.
Yeah.
2020 Netflix film, The Willoughbys based on the book by Lewis Lowry.
And before we get into our breakdown, we did ask a question on our social media and Caleb,
I believe has the responses.
Yes, I do.
So for our question of the week, we asked what is a favorite non holiday tradition or
thing your family does?
And I believe we only got one response on Twitter from at breaker six six nine six.
And he said bitching every Sunday.
And then I was I was I clarified with him.
I'm like, that's a favorite.
And he says, actually, they all leave for a Bear Lake trip.
The end of July every year.
Best time to be alone.
But fellow Utah guy, he actually lives in in Magna.
Oh, I should contact him.
I'll meet up.
We can do we'll get me and him in the same room.
We'll do our podcast.
There we go.
That'd be sick.
Yeah, it would be cool.
How far is Magna away from American Fort?
I think it's a couple hours.
Well, I mean, it's a 30 hour drive to you.
So like is really anything that far anymore?
Fair enough.
You said Magna, right?
Yeah.
Oh, it's no, it's not bad.
It's about like 30, 45 minutes.
Oh, have you ever been to Georgia, Rose?
Yes, twice.
His face.
Unfortunate.
I'm just kidding.
So when I moved, he he drove with me.
OK.
This past summer, I went to visit him a couple days.
I think Georgia is pretty nice.
Like they have that like thick Southern hospitality there.
Yeah, I've gotten my like quite a bit of a from the old ladies
that, oh, bless your heart.
Oh, yeah.
And I've always like I ask my coworkers, I'm like, what do
what the hell does that mean?
Like they say something like super shitty at me.
And then they're like, oh, bless your heart.
And they're like, that's just old lady speak for you.
Like, oh, OK.
Bless your heart, too.
Like, could you imagine that just being very aggressive?
Being no, bless your heart.
Yeah.
But it's been a change.
Freaking everyone's freaking telling me to go to Waffle
House.
Have you been?
No.
What are you waiting for?
Because no one's been able to sell me on it.
I'm like, oh, like, do they have like really good food?
And they're like, no.
I'm like, I mean, I mean, did I have like decent pancakes
or waffles or anything?
They're like, oh, no.
I'm like, are there waffles?
Like, like their French toast, like is like Waffle House kind
of makes it sound like the waffles are going to be good.
And they're like, no, their waffles are like,
they're all right.
And I'm like, but you just need to go.
And I'm like, why?
And they're like, like, you just need to go.
You need to experience Waffle House.
And I'm like, OK, like, are they like really nice places?
And I'm like, he's like, no, like you can't find one that's
clean.
Yeah.
I'm like, dude, what the?
Like, why the hell would I want to go?
I don't know.
I love Waffle House though.
Because like, it's like quick breakfast.
So like, you just pop in.
Like, the only thing that sucks is like they have really
limited seating.
So there's like, I don't know, six booths.
And then you could sit at the bar.
But they like turn people out of there really quick.
So if you're in the mood for like breakfast now,
then you can go there.
And they like cooking in front of you.
So I like their waffles.
OK.
Like, I don't think it's anything fancy.
I don't think that should have been in the name.
But I mean, you should go.
You haven't really sold me on it.
Like, when people were trying to sell me on Cracker Barrel,
they're just like, oh, they have like a really cool shop
of all these cool little knickknacks and stuff.
I'm like, OK, I'll go check that out.
And I really like Cracker Barrel.
Like, no one's been able to sell me on Waffle House.
Because like, they're like, yeah, you could probably
get better waffles somewhere else.
And like, and then like, I sent DJ a TikTok about it.
And I was just, someone was like sharing a like Waffle House.
And they're like, oh, Waffle House is closed.
And they're like, oh, shit, like we need to get out of here.
Oh, because it's like hurricane season.
Is that what it was?
Yeah.
Like the Waffle House doesn't close except when
there's a hurricane.
Yeah.
He's just like, like there was a whole TikTok about it.
He's just like, dude, there's like this stage five
or whatever the thing is for like a stage five hurricane
coming in.
He's like, OK.
And he's like, like millions of houses are, like, we need to go.
We need to get out of here.
And he's just like, no, like we're not going.
He's like, Waffle House is closed.
He's like, oh, shit.
And I'm like, dude, is this like a real thing?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I think Waffle House is better than Denny's.
Like that's not a high bar.
It's not a super high bar.
Is it better than IHOP?
It's faster than IHOP.
Not better.
So.
Oh, my gosh.
Yeah.
OK, you know what, Caleb?
I'll tell you this.
The next time I come out there, I'm dragging your ass
to Waffle House.
Deal?
Dude, I remember on our freaking road trip,
we were sitting in complete silence
for a good couple hours just driving,
listening to some podcast.
You lowered the volume on the podcast,
and you're like, dude, I think we've
passed like six Waffle Houses.
And I'm like, I think so, too.
Like I'm seeing them everywhere.
Like that's how it is with Cracker Barrel, too.
Like if you're on the interstate,
there's one almost at every exit.
That's fair, but I feel like Waffle Houses.
And this is like coming off of living in Utah,
where I had never seen a Waffle House before.
Yeah.
So that was just me.
Yeah.
That was jarring.
Right?
There's not one out here, isn't there?
No, the nearest one's in Nevada.
My grandpa lives in Vegas, where this Waffle House supposedly
is.
I have never seen it.
Like has he ever been there?
My grandpa?
Yeah.
You should ask him what he thinks about it.
Yeah, well, he grew up in Louisiana.
So I'm assuming he's kind of from this side of the country.
So I'm assuming he knows what a Waffle House is.
Like I wonder what he thinks about Popeye's chicken.
I always wonder whenever people are selling food,
that is supposed to be indicative of a location
or a state or something, if it's even close to what it actually
would be.
So in Louisiana, do you think they're eating Popeye's?
That's a really good question.
Get back to us.
OK.
I'll have to take a trip now, being like, hey,
do you guys like Popeye's?
That's the same with KFC.
Did you know the first KFC was opened in Utah?
So not Kentucky?
Yeah, it was not Kentucky.
There's even a sign for it.
The world's first Kentucky Fried Chicken is in Utah.
So are they saying that they just stole the recipes
from Kentucky?
No idea.
I just thought that was a weird thing.
I'm like, that can't be true.
I looked it up.
Sure as hell.
That was the first KFC.
That's nuts.
Wow.
Yeah, that is nuts.
So.
Yeah.
Anyway, thank you, Breaker, for answering
our question of the week.
Not getting into the actual breakdown.
If you are new to our breakdown system,
we have split movies into eight different categories
that we individually grade to come to a final All Bros
and Untrained Eye letter grade.
The eight categories that we score are story, writing,
acting, character development, effects, music,
costumes.
And then we give it our own personal grade
at the very end.
So if you have not seen The Willbees,
it is on Netflix right now.
So you guys should go check it out.
And yeah, so Rose is about to spoil the entire thing
by reading off the synopsis.
So reading with Rose, everyone.
I just want to point out this is one of the longest synopsises
I've ever seen in a while.
Really?
This movie really needs a little OK.
So A Blue Tabby Cat narrates the story of the Willbees, who
were once considered a proud and creative family full
of the greatest men and women for generations.
The present day Mr. and Mrs. Willoughby, however, are two.
Oh my god, I'm going to screw up.
Enamored with each other to care for their four children,
neglecting and emotionally abusing them.
Tim, the oldest of the four, raises himself and his siblings,
but suffers the brunt of the punishments for their actions,
mainly by being tossed into a colbin as punishment
for even minor infractions.
Jane, the middle child, is the most outspoken of the bunch
and is often silenced by her parents.
The twins, both named Barnaby, are the youngest
and the most intelligent.
After discovering an orphaned baby, Jane takes her in.
When she wreaks havoc in the living room,
the Willoughby parents throw all five children out
of the house, forbidding their kids to return
unless they get rid of the baby.
Tim blames Jane for this, but Jane tells him
that she knows where they can find a perfect home.
They leave the baby, who Tim names Ruth,
on the doorstep of Commander Melanoff's candy factory
at the end of a rainbow.
Having never been outside before,
the siblings believe the candy factory to be the perfect home
and, on their way home, begin hatching a plan
to improve their lives by ridding themselves
of their abusive parents and do so by creating
a dream vacation brochure for their parents.
Full of locations that could kill
or severely maim their parents and, as such,
leave the Willoughby children orphans themselves.
The parents leave immediately on their vacation,
leaving the siblings with no knowledge
of how to warm the house up or prepare their own food.
Thankfully, the cheap nanny their parents hired
soon appears to take care of them.
Jane warms up to her immediately
with the barnabies following soon after,
while Tim remains distrustful towards her.
Tim refuses to eat her oats despite not having eaten
anything for days prior to her arrival.
Shortly later, Tim misbehaves,
accidentally throwing the oats at her
as he slams his fist onto the table.
Nanny tries to put Tim any time out as a punishment,
but soon begins to learn of the neglect and abuse
done onto the children and rushes off to Melanoff's factory
with the children in tow when she finds out about Ruth.
After saving Ruth from the assembly line,
Nanny and Melanoff feed the baby some oatmeal.
Melanoff explains that he planned to leave Ruth
to the Department of Orphan Services after she came in,
but very quickly grew attached to her,
much to Nanny's relief.
Nanny realizes that Ruth will be safe living in the factory.
Meanwhile, the Willoughby parents have somehow
survived the disasters planned for them by their children,
but have gone broke.
Dreading returning to their home
and subsequently their children,
they decide to put the age-old Willoughby house up for sale
in favor of continuing their adventures.
They inform Nanny of their actions and demand
she figure out what to do with the children on her own.
Tim, still not quite trusting of Nanny,
steals her cell phone to find out what she's up to
after reading a text and overhearing a voicemail
left by his father when they arrive back
at the Willoughby house.
Tim finds out about the sale
and with the aid of his siblings,
manages to scare off all potential buyers the next day.
Nanny scares off the perfect family,
saying that it's her duty to look after the kids first,
parents' wishes second, and finally earns Tim's trust.
However, prior to the potential buyers arriving,
Tim called Orphan Services,
believing Nanny to have had ill intentions
from what he found on her phone.
Agent Alice Verkanoff and the Orphan Services arrive
and reveal Tim's call, making Nanny,
revealed as Linda, an orphan who had never found
a loving home, lose her trust in the children
and causing her to leave in tears.
Heartbroken over Linda's departure
and infuriated at Tim for driving her away,
Jane denounces him for his bossiness
and selfish actions just before the Willoughby children
are separated and taken to separate foster homes.
The Barnabees are taken to a modern home
where they stop inventing and become indulged
in the internet and modern technology.
Jane is sent to a music-loving new-age home,
but is too dejected over her losses
to participate in their activities.
Tim, meanwhile, repeatedly runs away
from his well-meaning foster families
and is eventually placed in a cell
at Orphan Services headquarters
after witnessing the Willoughby house's sale
and demolition during his final attempt.
Linda, after the cat intervenes as she leaves the city
on a bus by bringing Tim's helmet to her,
is encouraged to go back for the children.
She disguises herself as a janitor named Phil
to sneak into Orphan Services headquarters
to retrieve Tim, who initially refuses her help
out of guilt over having driven her away
and broken his family up in the process.
Linda, however, manages to snap him out of his depression
with some tough love, telling Tim
that his siblings need him and returning his helmet.
They break out of the headquarters
and reunite with the Willoughby siblings
and Tim reconciles with Jane.
However, everyone soon realizes that the only way
the Willoughbys can get Orphan Services off their backs
is if they have their parents.
With the help of Linda, Ruth, and Melanoff,
the Willoughbys create a dirigible,
I think that's the word,
to rescue them from the unclimbable Alps
and their final destination, Switzerland.
The siblings decide to use the dirigible too early,
leaving Nanny, Ruth, and Melanoff.
As they reach their destination,
they follow a trail of their mother's yarn
to the top of the mountain,
where they find their parents nearly frozen to death.
The siblings and the cat save them,
confessing that they sent them away
but hoping to reunite as a family.
The siblings flee with their parents to come back home
so they can continue to be a family.
At first, the parents seem to realize their cruelty
and neglectful ways and ask each other
if they really should change
and begin to take care of their children.
However, the parents then reveal
that they are still just as exceedingly selfish
and steal the dirigible, abandoning, excuse me,
the children again.
But the parents do not know how to steal the dirigible
and they drive it into the lower peak of the mountain,
which results in it popping
and eventually crashing into the ocean.
With no way to get down,
the Willoughby children start to freeze to death
on top of the unclimbable Alps.
The siblings prepare to succumb to the cold
as Jane sings for them.
Thankfully, Ruth, Melanoff, and Nanny find them
before they freeze to death,
having followed the dirigible.
Now officially orphans, the Willoughbys are adopted
by Linda and Melanoff, living much happier lives
in Melanoff's candy factory with them, Ruth and the cat.
Meanwhile, Mr. and Mrs. Willoughby are shown
to have survived the dirigible crash
and are floating at sea.
However, they are then devoured by a shark.
Nice.
I told you it was a long one.
You were absolutely correct.
Well, a lot happened.
True, true.
Yeah.
All right, so starting off with our story category,
we ended up giving this collectively an 85.3.
And that is only because of Rose.
I'm sorry.
Like, kudos to you guys for loving this movie
as much as you did.
I didn't.
I'm sorry.
I did, I didn't, I'm sorry.
Like why?
Yeah.
So just for context for everyone,
me and, I gave it a little bit less than Beth.
I gave it a 91.
Beth gave it a 95.
And dear old Rose gave it a 70.
Hey, it wasn't in the 60s, okay?
And I was gonna go there.
Dude, what?
I don't know what it was.
I just did not like this movie.
I liked the orphan approach.
That was interesting that the kids wanted to go that route
that they hated their parents that much.
And understandable, the parents were assholes.
But I know just the whole background of how,
oh, will it be, we need to reclaim what they used to be like.
Just our family isn't the way that it used to be.
I don't know, just I've seen better animated films
than this and this just wasn't my favorite.
Like what was it about the story?
Like was that just it about the story that you didn't like?
It was, I mean, it was that,
there were some things that I could see coming a mile away.
Like the whole, them thinking that the parents
were gonna turn good at the end,
but then they decided to still be their same way.
I saw that coming a mile away.
I don't know about you guys.
I knew there was no way that they were going to.
I mean, I was hoping.
I had no idea.
In most animated films, yeah,
they usually do a 180 or 360, whatever,
but I just knew with these two characters,
it's like once an asshole, always an asshole.
Yeah, I mean, I thought that they were both
really bad parents clearly, but I actually liked them.
Like I just like how they did the characters
like so enamored with themselves.
And I just thought they were like super douchey, I guess.
And it made me feel even worse for the kids.
But I also like how the mom's always like, I can't knit.
And like, they're always like freaking out
when the kids are even talking to them.
Like they're like, what is this kid doing around?
Like, how does this keep happening?
So I don't know.
Like I hate the parents, but I also,
thought that characters were entertaining.
I absolutely agree.
I think the approach of these kids wanting to,
like, I feel like this movie was, it was fun.
And I think you could show it to,
what I appreciate about this is that
it is a children's movie that has some very dark themes
that would make for a very, very, very, very, very,
like sense and be more interesting for adults.
And I think that's what intrigued me so much about it
with these children that are trying,
like, if you think about it,
these children are trying to murder their parents.
Right.
I mean, yes, their parents are awful.
Yeah.
And they like, they are just the worst human beings
on the planet, but it was just so funny.
Thinking about like what they were doing with this and.
Well, even when they're on their trip,
they're like screwing people over constantly.
Like the, like travel guides are getting killed.
Like the train gets enveloped in like an avalanche
because they won't get out of the way.
Because they're just like talking to each other.
Oh, exactly.
And I just think like the flow of the movie
worked super well.
Like I think with the second watch,
it might've taken a little bit of a dive for me
just because it was, I don't think it was.
I think there were definitely some slow areas,
but not slow enough to deserve a fricking 70.
Hey, Caleb, there's a lot of movies
that I like that you hate.
So don't get at me, bro.
This is interesting because there aren't very many movies
where we disagree like this.
That's very true.
But I thought it was a.
Same page.
Go ahead.
No, sorry, I was just saying,
we're usually on the same page.
Yeah, but I thought it was a good story overall
because it's like heartwarming for the kids
like not trusting any adults
because they've only been exposed to those jerks.
And then having to like be their own little family
and then accept another adult
that they're not sure that they can trust.
So I thought that was heartwarming.
I will give the movie this,
and this is the moment that sticks out to me the most
is the fact that when they actually do become orphans
and it is said by the big honcho of the orphan society
and just like watching them all get dragged away
and separated, I'll admit that scene hit pretty hard.
That was very well handled and I had no problems there.
Yeah.
I will give you, that was very well done.
Yeah, I thought it was super well done.
Like I thought they handled everything really well.
I will say this, it does feel like they tried
to put multiple stories into the one movie,
but I think it ended up working out pretty well.
Like I don't think it clashed too much
because like the first,
the first I feel like book you could have said
was when they found the baby.
And then when they go and deliver the baby to the,
oh, what's his name?
Melanoff.
Yeah, when they go deliver to Melanoff
and then they come back and then they're trying
to get rid of their parents.
Like that could have been like its own story.
And then like once they like go away
and then the nanny coming,
like that felt like it could have been its own story.
It just felt like a bunch of little stories
all kind of crammed into one movie,
but it didn't feel just so overpowered or not.
Right, and they seem like they completed the threads.
They weren't like incomplete stories
that they were just compacting.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
And that's what I really enjoyed about it.
And it was funny where it needed to be funny,
heartwarming where it needed to be heartwarming.
Right, like one part of the movie,
like when right before they find out
that Tim called the bad nannies or to report a bad nanny,
he finally like starts to trust the nanny
and like throws his arms wide open
and like falls into her arm.
Like I freaking got super teary eyed by that.
I'm like, you trust her?
Yeah, like that, oh my God, like that stuff,
it just, it worked out so well.
And then you realize what he's done too.
Right.
We knew that he did that,
but just the fact that we got reminded of it.
And then like when she replayed that voice message,
just like, I am here to report a bad nanny.
And you're just like, oh my gosh.
Like you knew it was coming from,
like you said, you knew it was coming,
but it's still hits you because you're just like, no,
he's had so much growth.
Right, and then when you find out
that the nanny was an orphan that didn't get adopted,
and then they're like still like rubbing it in,
like no one wanted you and now you're a bad nanny.
Yeah, that was so sad.
Yeah.
How did you not like this, Rose?
I'm sorry.
Oh, so.
You know, Caleb, when I love a movie next time
and you hate it,
I'm just gonna give you this much shit too.
No, I mean, I get where you're coming from.
I don't agree with you at all, but I guess I can see.
Caleb, you don't have to lie to yourself.
Yeah, so like I said, stories coming in at an 85.3.
Moving on over to writing, we were at an 86.
Rose.
Yeah, so Rose was still at a 70.
Again.
I'm sorry, I liked the writing just as much
as I liked the story.
The writing for the twins, oh my,
I don't think it was the voicing,
it was just the writing.
I don't know, I don't know.
The voicing, it was just the writing
I found annoying as hell.
I'm sorry.
Dude, what?
I love the twins.
I'll admit, the whole that they're both named Barnaby,
that was pretty funny.
And how the nanny's just like,
okay, I'm gonna call one of you Barnaby A
and one of you Barnaby B.
Isn't that how she?
Yeah.
Okay, so that was funny.
But just the writing for them just was not on point for me.
I don't know what it was.
Well, and that's another example
of how terrible their parents are.
They didn't even give them two names.
That's true.
And they have one sweater that they share.
Oh yeah, that was so sad.
Yeah, but I mean, they were kind of funny with it.
I loved the writing on this.
Like my, I freaking loved the opening scene with Tim
where you hear the father and mother just messing around
and then you're like, and then like, ew, what is that?
I think it's a baby.
And then they come and throw him out in the hallway
and they're just like, that woman you so rudely interrupted
with your obnoxious birth, that is mother.
And it's like, I recommend you find it,
or if you require love, I recommend you find it elsewhere.
Yeah, that's so bad.
I know, like I freaking loved that.
Like just those like super dark jokes,
like, oh, when freaking Tim threw the oats at the nanny
and she's just like, I'm gonna have to,
like there's gonna be a punishment for that.
And he's like, she's just like, I was just gonna put you
in a time out when she's like looking down
in the freaking coal bin.
Right, yeah.
Oh my gosh, freaking loved that.
I really enjoyed the writing for the twins.
Like I thought that it was the way
that they would just talk to each other.
Yeah.
Like I thought that was super well done.
Well, and I liked the narration as well.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, I was gonna say like out of all the kids,
the writing for the daughter, what was her name?
Jane, I thought hers was actually really good.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree, hers is really well done.
Like, do you think they should have kept
the baby's name as Taffeta?
Yeah, well, I mean, it's a candy company, so baby Ruth, but.
I loved how they like justified that too.
Like, cause he's just like, we are being Ruth-less.
Yeah.
Like, it's just like those little details in the writing,
like just things that if you weren't paying attention
to, like, you know, like, you know,
details in the writing, like just things that if you weren't
paying attention, you would just miss altogether.
Right.
And like, there's a scene, like when the parents
are in the Alps and they're like trying to follow
the strings where they have the mother's like tardigrade
and it's like, I can't knit.
Like.
I freaking loved how all of her yarn came from the father's,
like, stringy little mustache.
Well, yeah.
And at one point where he's like not growing any
and she's like, that's the deal.
You give me all the yarn I can get and I knit.
Oh my gosh.
Like the father and mother were just so good.
The stuff that came out of their mouths
was just like so out there.
Yeah.
Well, and that like weird throat noise
that he would like make or whatever when he's like.
The purring.
You're right.
Oh my gosh.
I freaking loved it so much.
Do either of you find it weird that they would call each other
mommy and daddy?
Is that what it is?
Oh, it's father and mother.
Father and mother, OK nevermind.
Still weird.
I think that might have been a little,
yeah, I think that was a little weird mainly because they
didn't like being parents.
Yeah, that's true.
But I mean, I guess it worked out.
But I think that's weird in general.
Like, why would you think your partner is your parents?
I guess I don't nod into it.
Yeah.
I really like one thing that I really,
I kind of caught really quick.
The pictures of like the past Barnabes and all the family
members, all of the, like everyone looked the same.
Like all the characters looked the same.
Like the father looked basically the same.
Maybe it was like different facial hair or whatever.
But it was always like a big mustache.
The mother always looked the same.
And then all the little boys looked like Tim.
All the little girls looked like Jane.
And then the twins looked like a mixture of the both of them.
Like kind of like they were trying
to do like a gender neutral.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
Where it's kind of like the Barnabes
had like the really long, like kind of a longer hair.
But it was kind of in the style that Tim's hair was in.
Like if it was just like a little bit longer.
Like I really like that trying to make a weird, well,
not weird.
And make it ambiguous as to their gender.
Yeah.
Like I just thought like little details like that
were really well done.
And Ricky Gervais voicing or doing the narration.
Like that was awesome.
I agree.
Yeah.
Because like he did some misdirecting sometimes
with the story when he was telling it.
And then like sometimes he was like funny, like clever.
Never they did that thing with how, you know,
oh, this story is not like what you think it's going to be.
It's going in a different direction.
I got a lot of a series of unfortunate events vibes.
Oh, a little bit.
Yeah.
But are you a fan of that?
I am.
So it's kind of weird.
Then what the hell?
Maybe it's just because Jim Carrey, man.
I'm sorry.
Did you watch the new one that was on Netflix with Neil
Patrick Harris?
I didn't actually.
I heard it's good, though.
It's really good.
It is super good.
You really need to sit down and watch it.
Because I love the original movie.
Yeah.
Definitely have to sit down and watch that one.
Is it a series or a movie?
A series.
OK.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, that's really I don't think I've
finished the second season yet.
At least I don't think I have.
I might have.
But yeah, they have two seasons.
And each so all of the so the one with Jim Carrey is kind of
like so each of the houses that they get placed in
is in the Netflix series is two episodes.
Right, yeah.
OK, nice.
Yeah, so it's like they get placed in the first home to or
then the next episode, they leave that place.
Next episode, they begin a place and then like and it's
really cool how they do it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's pretty funny to like the henchmen.
I think are pretty hilarious.
Yeah, and honestly, I like Neil Patrick Harris's performance
way better than I like Jim Carrey's.
Wow, OK.
Yeah, and I really like Jim Carrey's performance.
So that's saying a lot.
Like I haven't seen the one with Jim Carrey in a long time.
But I mean, like with characters like that,
it's really hard to beat him because he's so animated.
But I would agree.
I think Neil Patrick Harris, too.
Yeah.
Anyway, getting back into the Willbees.
Hey, that wasn't off tangent as much as we've been on other
parts of this episode.
That is very true.
Yeah, getting into so the writing,
we ended up giving an 86.
Getting into the acting, the acting is sitting at 88.
So the main ones that I did, I did the voice of Tim,
who was played by Will Forte, Jane, who was voiced by Alessia
Cara, then Barnaby, both the Barnabies,
voiced by Sean Cullen.
I did the nanny, who was voiced by Maya Rudolph,
and then father and mother, and then father and mother.
Father and mother who were voiced by Martin Short
and Jane Krakowski.
I didn't even know that was Martin Short.
I was wondering who he voiced.
He summoned his inner Jack Frost for this one.
Yeah.
I can agree with that.
But I freaking love Martin Short.
He's so good.
He's an incredible actor.
Well, I think too, like Jess with even those weird throat
pranks, like, nailed it.
Oh my gosh, so good.
It's stuff like that.
Makes me wonder what order they go in with these movies.
Do they record all of the stuff first
and then animate over the audio?
Because they'd have to for stuff like that, right?
Right, to make it match up.
I don't know.
Something interesting to think about.
All right, top three for you guys.
Who do you think did the best?
Like the best voice acting?
Yeah.
Jane.
I'm going to say Martin Short.
And I don't know.
Because I really like Jane Krakowski, the mom.
Because sometimes, like, I loved him,
but sometimes I thought his voice was annoying.
Right.
So I'm going to go with those three.
That's a good top three.
Rose?
Number one, I would give to Martin Short.
Sorry, two, Ricky Gervais.
And then three.
Oh, I forgot about him.
That's a good one.
This is an interesting one, because I
have a much different top three than you guys.
Because number one for me, I loved the Barnabees.
Yes.
I thought they were so much fun.
I loved when they talked to each other.
And they're just like repeating things.
Yeah.
Or just like, Barnaby, I'm cold.
Oh, here you go, Barnaby.
I don't know what I found so amusing about that.
But anytime they were talking to each other, I laughed my ass off.
And then number two, I think I'm going to give to Jane.
And I think I'm going to give it to Jane, mainly
because of her singing.
I freaking loved her little tune that she sang.
And then the last one, this is tough.
It's honestly a tie between the nanny and Tim.
I think I'm going to give it to the nanny, though.
Freaking love Maya Rudolph.
Yeah.
She is such a talented voice actress.
I'm not sure if you guys have seen Big Mouth,
but she does the voice for the hormone monstrous in that.
And she is almost unrecognizable.
Really?
We've seen a couple of episodes, but we don't watch it regularly.
Yeah, it only has a couple of seasons.
But yeah, her character is so good.
And that's why I enjoyed her in this.
Her voice was just so, she did it a really good way
at just portraying wholesome.
And loving, even when she was upset,
she didn't overplay the anger, I feel like she could have.
Because she does angry a lot in other roles that I've seen her in.
So she's always gone a little over the top for me.
And in this, she didn't.
Even when she was upset, it still sounded very loving and kind.
Right.
I'll agree with that.
She was like, as for the children, I'll take care of them.
That was one of my favorite bits, the way that Tim's just like,
I'll take care of them.
And Jane and Barnaby are like, I don't want to be taken care of.
And then when she reads it out there, just like, oh,
that sounds way better.
I definitely want to be taken care of.
Oh, my gosh, dude, how did you not like this movie?
I'm sorry.
I freaking loved that.
That was one of my favorite gags in the movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, so Beth, you ended up giving 100 to the acting.
I don't know.
Like, I thought they did really awesome.
I scored everything super high because I love this movie.
Yeah, well, we had to make up for Rose, so I feel like that's absolutely fine.
All right.
Yeah, Rose hit us with a 75, so he did like the acting a little bit better than the story
writing.
Yeah, and then I went with an 89 for the acting.
The only people that I feel brought it down for me were a lot of the extras.
Like, I wasn't a big fan of Terry Crews as a kid.
Yeah, his voice just didn't quite match with the character.
Yeah, with Melanof.
Like, I think they should have.
I don't know.
They could have gone with someone else.
Like, I was thinking, like, Keith David would have been a really good voice.
Who is that?
Do you watch Rick and Morty?
Yes.
He's he's voices the president.
Oh, OK, I know who that is.
Yeah, and then Rose, you know who Keith David is?
I'm just trying to see what else he's been.
He was in Requiem for a Dream.
Have you guys ever seen that?
I have not.
It's pretty dark.
He looks really familiar, but I just don't know what I've seen in there.
I'm pretty sure you would recognize his voice.
He's also done...
This is a really old Disney show, but did you ever watch Gargoyles?
Not frequently.
He was like the main voice in Gargoyles.
See, I don't even think I would remember that.
I was trying to find something on the 9 to B.
Damn, he's been in a lot.
Yeah, no joke.
Yeah, but his voice is what I was expecting to come out of Melanoff.
I think Terry Crews was just like a little too animated in his voice acting.
He unfortunately brought it down a little bit for me.
Then like I said, everyone else, all the other extras just kind of kept pulling.
But the main cast, I think they did an excellent job.
Yeah.
If I had thought of Terry Crews, I probably would not have given them a hundred.
I thought he was pretty funny.
The funniest was whenever he was in White Chicks.
Have you guys seen that?
Yes.
His funniest roles have been in that and Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
Nine-Nine, yeah.
At the end, whenever he finds out it's a man dressed up like a woman and he doesn't even care,
he's like, you're not white.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I think the cast did really, really well on this.
And yeah, so acting ended up scoring an 88.
Moving over to character development, this is kind of where me and Rose started agreeing a little bit more.
Okay.
So Beth, you ended up giving it a 95 and then Rose and I gave it an 80.
Okay.
Wow, we actually agreed on one.
Yeah, so it ended up averaging out at an 85.
But I feel the reason I gave it, because that was I think the lowest I gave.
Yeah, the lowest I gave this movie was this category.
And I think it was just because the kids always seem to maintain their consistency of who they were.
Yeah.
So it would have been nice to see them flourish a bit more rather than just at the end where it's just like assume that they're happy.
I would have just like to see a little bit more.
I mean, I think what you can maybe give for that is they all they've known their whole life is just shit.
It's just, you know, shitty parents got no food, nothing.
So literally anything above that is good to them, like they're going to be happy nonetheless.
Right.
Like, I feel like Tim's character did make a lot of progress because of those parents, like he didn't trust any adults.
And then once he started trusting Nanny, it was too late because he rotted her out for being a bad Nanny.
But then she comes to rescue him.
So, again, his faith in adults and like trusting is like redeemed because she came for him.
So I thought there was some development there.
That's true.
Yeah.
And thinking about it a bit a bit more like the kids were really focused on trying to get the perfect family.
And they wanted like the reason that they were.
The whole like make themselves orphans plan came about was because they were almost jealous of Ruth and that she got to stay in this candy warehouse.
So I at least that's what I got.
Like there was a little bit of maybe jealousy there that they couldn't stay there themselves because they had parents and they were just so focused on getting and just getting the what their idea of like a perfect family is.
Right.
And I think the way that they worked through it and eventually got to a point at the end, like even though they were freezing on the Alps, that they didn't need the perfect family because they had each other.
Yeah.
Well, and the nanny to like with that same scene with Tim writing her out like she's completely crushed by that and then reminded that she wasn't wanted. But then again, like she decides to build their family by rescuing him.
And then I think she realizes that she is good enough to have a family because she's created her own.
Yeah.
Ooh, I might have talked myself up.
Maybe I think I'll just leave it where it's at.
Okay.
Yeah, any other notes you guys had on on character development.
I mean, I think it's funny what Rose has already noted about how the parents looked like they had developed a character or like love for the children because they rescued them and then they like stabbed them in the back again and steal their only way out of the Alps.
Yeah, I feel like I knew that scene was coming. Like I knew that they hadn't changed at all. I'm like, okay, we haven't seen them go through anything to justify this change.
But, and so it made sense that they stole their flying device.
Dirigible.
Dirigible. Yeah.
So it made sense that they stole that and like tried to like, leave them. And it is like left it open for that like heartwarming moment.
I love how they're like how they reacted to when the friggin thing exploded.
They're like, right, they're like breaking it and they don't know how to drive it.
Yeah, and then the kids are just sitting there like, oh, there's no way they could have survived that, right?
I also thought it was funny. Go ahead. No, you go.
I thought it was funny that they were alive underneath the snow with their like lips together. They were still kissing. And that's how they were like warm enough to stay alive until they got rescued.
Yeah. So good. So good.
So yeah, character development sitting at an 85.
Moving on over to effects.
We are sitting at an 86.6.
So this is one that you're going to have to justify to me, Rose, because me and Beth were both at an 95. You were the asshole at 70.
You are a sucker for good animation. What the hell?
This isn't good animation to me.
What?
I don't like these character designs.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
What didn't you like about it?
Just like I thought some of the characters were like way too skinny. I know that that's what they were going for. But like they were just like their proportions were just off for me.
The hair, it seemed like in points was like it was kind of like freaking Clone Wars over here that the hair didn't move with movements.
Okay, well, it's made out of yarn.
Yeah.
Okay, she's got me there. I don't know. Just like I know like many would say, well, you know, it's not Pixar and we all know that you're a Pixar whore.
But there's plenty of other animation studios that I love that some people don't like. Like I know Caleb is not a big fan of stop motion animation.
Like core line and that kind of stuff. But I love that kind of shit. Like that animation, I would give 100, 100 all day every day.
Wasn't this stop motion?
No, it was animated, but they reduced the frame rate to make it look like it was stop motion.
Okay.
It's kind of like what they did with Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.
They did that exact same thing where they made kind of gave it that stop motion look.
Style.
Yeah, by just reducing the frame rate.
Okay.
Which we've talked about, like we've discussed this, I feel like you didn't you like the freaking nightmare?
The Nightmare Before Christmas?
Yeah.
Yeah, like their characters were skinny.
Yeah, I don't know. It just it kind of just depends on how the movie is laid out for me.
I don't know for that world it worked.
Just because you know it's Halloween town.
They're kind of supposed to look a little different.
But I don't know just this animation I did not love.
That surprised the hell out of me because I felt like the the character designs were very Burton-esque.
Yes, I'm sorry I got to disagree with that one.
I thought that the father especially like he looked very like the mother and father looked very like Burton-esque.
Like obviously not like exactly because Tim Burton goes for a very creepy look.
Like it's almost like someone went for like the the the Tim Burton body model with like just a lighter feel about it.
Like a happier tone instead of going for like creepy.
Like not to go off on another tangent or like side trip.
But did you guys see Frankenweenie?
I love that movie.
Yes, like did you see like on Disney Plus they had the original like old version of it from like the when it was it was like in black and white and they made it like a real movie.
Like live action was well yeah.
So like the first one was live action and then the new one was stop motion.
And I know like Tim Burton wanted to get the stop motion one made for like a long time.
That was kind of like his baby.
Yeah, like randomly we watched it with our nephews the original one.
It was kind of interesting.
But anyway, did it hold up?
I thought so.
I mean for the time period like when did that one get released was like early 90s or it seems like maybe the 80s or.
Yeah, I'm not 100% sure about that.
Okay, looks like 1984.
Oh, geez.
So that is a really early Tim Burton work.
Yep, yeah 1984.
Damn.
Yeah.
Geez, like it just goes to show how much I know about you, man.
Like I thought you were you were going to dig this movie.
Sorry, man.
There's a lot of things you don't know.
It seems like it.
So yeah, anything else about the effects because I think we've both expressed like we I personally enjoyed the animation a lot out of this and typically like.
Which is weird because like with how the characters looked like I'm not a big fan of like the Tim Burton style and with me thinking that that's how they looked surprised the hell out of me that I enjoyed the animation as much as I did.
Yeah, I mean I like that everything was made out of yarn even when they had like smoke clouds it was like it looks like felt or like frizzy like frizz yarn or something.
So I really, I really like that. And even when they like grew their mustaches at the end.
Like how it was like little strings of yarn coming down.
I love how Barnaby the Barnabas and Jane all has like thick mustaches.
And then Tim just had like the little scraggles of hair.
I love it.
So effects like I said sitting at an eighty six point six.
Moving on over to music.
Rose, you're gonna have to explain yourself again.
So me and Beth both gave it a ten.
Yeah, really? Yeah, which.
Okay.
I'm sorry. I didn't apparently have a very cold heart.
I'm not saying it was a bad song. It was a good song.
I mean, what did I give it again? A six.
Okay.
I pro.
Okay.
That is one that I will bump up if you'll let me.
I'll allow it.
Okay.
I'll bump it up to an eight.
Okay.
Like I was reading some nine.
All right.
I was reading some trivia about the movie earlier today and they were saying Alessia Cara, the voice of Jane when she was on some TV show.
I think it was like who was it?
So Jimmy Fallon.
Like the voice of Jane.
Who was it?
Like she was saying that was her dream to be in an animated movie and the producers for this movie saw that and like asked her to come and try out for Jane.
And then whenever she sang the song from the like first scene where she's singing, she was sick and her voice was like kind of scratchy and she was like really worried that they weren't going to accept her audition.
And that is the final song in the movie because they thought that it was like when she's looking out the window, it's like cold and they thought that she probably would be like kind of scratchy and nasally if she was really there singing.
So they went with it.
That is so cool.
Yeah, I look like I usually usually don't go up to a 10.
But the times that I do, I've always said that there's a song that gets stuck in my head and this song that she sings got stuck in my head like crazy.
Like, oh, I freaking loved it.
Like I freaking caught myself like humming it at work.
Were you looking out a window?
Unfortunately, my work does not have windows.
But yeah, like that's just how much I love that that tune like it was such a good and I know that they like repeated it throughout like that little tune because she was singing it on the bus. She was singing it like looking out on the out of the house and just like she it was a tune that she sang throughout.
But she never like repeated herself, which I appreciate it a lot.
Yeah, and it's the song like at the end, like that's how they find them because she they hear her song.
Yeah, it was just like so beautifully done.
So, so good and and just knowing like the that's actually what sold me on watching this like I was going through Netflix, I was trying to find something to watch, because Iris was eating dinner and I was like, I don't want to watch frickin Coco Mellon anymore.
I was watching something else. And so I was scrolling through and like all these other animated movies trying to find something I hadn't seen before that had like bright colors and looked fun.
And then I came across the Wilbys played the trailer and it was just Jane singing that song looking out the window that sold me on the, the, the movie.
I was like, that is a catchy song, like, click, let's watch it.
Yep.
I just like instantly fell in love with the movie like as soon as they brought Tim out and was just like,
like, we suggest you find your love elsewhere.
Like to a baby.
I just loved how absurd that was.
Right. Yeah. Well, and like with Ricky Gervais like I, I liked how he opened it to.
Yeah. With the narration. So well done.
So yeah, so that brings or with Rose bumping his up to an eight that brings our music up to a nine.
All right.
Yeah, moving on over to costumes.
This one we were a little bit closer.
We're we are also at a nine with this one.
Okay.
The only one that disagreed was Rose, but since we round whichever direction, we usually round down.
But since this one's closer to nine, well, we'll bump it up to a nine.
Yeah, I think the, the, the Wilbys have a very distinct look about them.
Like you, I feel like you could tell these characters from like from their silhouette,
which is something that I never like really considered until watching like the, what is it, the gallery, something for the Mandalorian on Disney Plus.
I forget who was Kathleen Kennedy, I think she was saying that what makes a good character is if you can recognize them by their silhouette.
And so that's kind of what, like what I've been going off of.
Like, I can recognize these characters off their silhouette.
Yeah, I just thought they were really well modeled.
Like I said, very Tim Burton-esque.
Yeah.
I don't know. Like, I don't know if I have much to add to that.
Like when I was like making notes or whatever, I noted that the Barnaby sweater.
That's so fun.
Yes, I love that. And then also, I guess whenever the nanny, like literal costumes, whenever the nanny like dressed up and scared the people out of the house.
Yeah, the perfect family.
Right, like nothing scared them away. They're like, oh, yay.
I loved the perfect family, like the way that like the spring that was shooting people out of the house, it was just like overloaded.
And so like sprung them up to the next floor like, ooh.
Or whenever they like grabbed the door handle that was electrified, they're like, they all got the jolt and they're like, oh.
I feel a spark with this house.
That's it, yeah.
Yeah, just like just the most absurd stuff.
And it's just so so funny.
But yeah, I think all the like the characters were designed really well.
And I mean, Rosie, it doesn't it doesn't seem like you disagreed.
No, I mean, when they're going through all of how the Wallabies have worked or sorry, Wallabies, Willabies have worked throughout the ages.
Oh, yeah. Thinking about that, that's what really boosted up my score, because I'll give them creative points for how each differed drastically from one another, which I really appreciated.
Yeah. And it was all in like the facial hair, too, which is insane.
Or also like the I don't know what they're called, but the people that came out to pick up the kids after the report was made, how they're all like uniforms and they look like robots.
Yeah, almost like Agent Smith from.
Right. The Matrix. Yeah.
Yeah, I really dug that. I really like the scene where Nanny and Tim are escaping and she's going through the gate and it's just like scraping really slowly while everyone's chasing her.
And then like there's the buildup of cars and then you see that one that's just kind of backing out and like pulls forward and just like.
I feel like I'd be that asshole.
Dude, I straight up had a moment like that when I was driving.
When I was driving the dumpster truck, I was driving down this main street trying to get to a job, but there was an accident and someone had like flipped their truck.
And so I had to take like the long way around to to get around the accident because that like that's how the police were.
Yeah, how they were diverting people. And so I went went to my parents that weekend and was just bitching about it just like, yeah, some jackass like tipped his car or his truck.
Like, I feel like that's just like one step away from being like the gather around.
Well, nobody ever cares if the person's okay, Rose. They're like, is my day hindered?
I think what's the most annoying is when it happens, like on our like interstates here, we have like one going this way and then there's grass and then one going the opposite way.
And like it's always a wreck on the other side. But people are like stopped on this side looking at him like I got to get to work.
Yeah, that is one thing about this side of the country. Like everyone stops to look at. I mean, like it happens everywhere.
But I feel like it's especially bad here, especially because in Utah, we have like four lanes of or four or five lanes of traffic on the freeway.
Yeah. And we have like the one highway or the one highway going through the state.
And here we have like all these different highways and they're like, do you live near Atlanta? I live in Savannah.
OK, because like that like driving through there, like having like six or eight lanes, I'm like, what the hell is this?
Like, you have to hurry up and get over really fast.
And I'm like, I don't like this one bit or like looking at like maps or or like pictures of like California where they have those highways that are like eight lanes wide.
And you're like, oh, my God.
Yeah, that is just such a cultural difference, because like that does not intimidate me in the slightest.
Really? Yeah.
I prefer that because I'm like, OK, at least I have like an I like and I can move through traffic if I have to here.
It's just like, OK, if this lanes screwed up and that lanes screwed up.
I don't like. Yeah, I'm screwed.
Like it sucks because like there was this one car that wouldn't let me pass and I completely missed my exit to work.
I'm like, you jackass like in Utah, like or anywhere else, I feel like I could have like slow down, got around him like, no, like you can't do that here.
Like the thing that makes me super angry is whenever you're like getting on the interstate and one of those like merge lanes where you're supposed to be getting up to speed to get on.
And then some jackass is like driving right beside you.
Like so your lane is ending, but you can't get on because they're right beside you.
Yeah, I just have to go full eye of the tiger on that one.
Be like, my car is a piece of shit.
We'll see how you play this game.
Yeah, I mean, I play that too, but sometimes like you're like, what are you doing?
Get to that point. I'm not looking at you. I'm not looking at you. Yeah, you hit my car. It's your fault.
Well, get out of there. And usually there's no one in the middle lane or like they could have sped up or gone faster, but they're right beside you.
Don't like it. But anyway, yeah.
Traffic. Yeah.
Getting back to costumes, unless any of you have anything else to say about it.
No, I don't think so either.
Yeah. So costumes is sitting at an eight point six or not eight point six.
We round up now. So costumes is sitting at nine.
And then onto our final grade, our personal scores.
We are sitting at an eighty seven. So me and Beth Tide are.
We're the same sitting at a ninety five and then Rose hits us with seventy one.
No, you're not. I. Yeah.
I am a little bit. I feel bad that because you guys love this movie so much and I brought the score down because I did.
I do feel bad. Well, I mean, if you didn't like it.
But if I wasn't on this episode, like, like hell, the scores would be like close to a hundred.
Pretty damn close.
Like, what's my bad drastically different?
But I should have showed up last week.
It's fine. Like, I think I think it makes it.
It makes the scores a little bit more. Not as bias. Yeah. When when there's one of us that didn't like it.
So, I mean, it ended up working out like so the personal grade averaging all of us out is sitting at an eighty seven.
Like I said. So that's still pretty good.
Yeah. Anyone want to like final thoughts on the on the movie? Beth.
Oh, me first. OK.
I just thought it was really cute and I love the music. I love I love the story.
I love all the intricate details like the tardigrade.
Yeah, I just thought it was overall like heartwarming story and I think everyone should watch it.
Absolutely. We'll leave on the more realistic note, so I'll go next.
Yeah, I thought this movie was also really well done. Super fun.
I think there are there's something for everyone in movies like this.
Like there are some darker themes that adults can pull from from this, but they're not so dark that a child couldn't watch it.
It's like I said, I watched this with a toddler and she just loved like the bright colors and the the songs and everything.
I watched it with my nephews and they wanted to watch it again.
So in there like when we watched it, they were like nine and thirteen.
That's awesome. Maybe I should have watched it with a kid. Maybe that was.
Yeah, maybe that. Well, I watched it without a kid first.
OK. Yeah, I watched it the second time without a kid.
Actually, I watched it with with my wife the second time. She thought it was really cute.
Yeah. But yeah, I think it's a good, wholesome movie.
Definitely worth checking out. It is kind of a hidden gem of of Netflix.
Like not one that got a whole lot of publicity, but.
It's it's a good one. It's a really good one.
I agree. All right, Rose.
So I didn't hate this movie.
It just wasn't. It just wasn't fully for me.
I know it had some problems, but overall, it's not that bad of an animated film.
I did enjoy some parts.
And honestly, I think anyone who does check it out, you're probably going to like it more than me.
Maybe I'm just the asshole here that didn't like it.
So I do think it is worth a watch.
Nice. Well, with that, that concludes this breakdown.
So the final all bros and untrained eye letter grade for the Willoughbys has come to.
A B plus. OK.
Yeah, it's a pretty, pretty decent B plus.
It's sitting at an eighty seven point two five percent.
So with our B plus movies, we have.
Thirty five.
Yeah, and this ranked.
Twenty nine.
Twenty five. I'm blind.
Hey, hey, join the club. Yeah. Yeah.
So with with that, so that actually puts it.
So, yeah, everything I'm about to list off is is a B plus movie.
So that puts it above psycho, which was sitting at an eighty seven point one.
It is above Halloween from 78 sitting at an eighty seven point zero.
No, no. Yeah, an eighty seven point zero six.
It is above nobody, which is at a flat eighty seven.
It is also above in the Heights, which was at an eighty six point eight.
And then it was also above Frozen two, which was at an eighty six point five.
I thought we gave that movie higher.
That we gave Frozen two higher. Yeah.
I didn't see Frozen two yet.
Like we started to watch it, but then we didn't finish it.
Like it was as good as the first one.
I should like it better. Really? Yeah. OK.
Yeah, it was all right.
Like it didn't have like as memorable of songs, but it was good.
I agree. I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you. Really?
Yeah, dude, show yourself.
That's just as good as let it go, if not better for me.
Well, OK, it's it's a it's good. I'll definitely say it's better than than let it go.
But it's not as catchy. I think it is.
I don't remember us fighting over that movie.
I want to check it out. Yeah.
I'll have to listen to the review and see if we actually did throw some hands on them.
Oh, and just for just for shits and giggles,
because the movie below Frozen 2 is actually one that we we all did together.
The Lovebirds. OK.
Yeah, so it's also above The Lovebirds, which was at an eighty six point five four.
That was a good movie, too. I thought that was so funny.
Yeah. And then let's see.
So go in the other direction. The Willoughbys is below Detective Pikachu,
which was at an eighty seven point three.
That was cute.
Or an eighty seven point three one. Sorry.
It is below Freaky, which was at an eighty seven point three seven.
I loved Freaky.
Like, in my opinion, Vince Vaughn can do no wrong.
He can't. He did such a good job.
Let's see. It is also below How to Train Your Dragon, which was at an eighty seven point five.
It is also below Parasite, which was at an eighty seven point five nine.
And then it was also below Raya and the Last Dragon, which was at an eighty seven point eight.
Like these margins are are fricking tight between our movies, our B plus movies.
Like, it's insane how close these are.
Like, the difference between like Raya and the Last Dragon and the Willoughbys is seriously point six percent.
Damn.
Like that is like it's not even a full percentage difference.
Like hell, the prom isn't even a full percentage above the Willoughbys.
Wait, it is or isn't?
No, it isn't.
So the difference between the prom and the Willoughbys is point nine percent.
OK.
So, yeah, it's like super tight margins.
And we have a shit ton of B plus movies.
But yeah, so that's where the Willoughbys is sitting.
I don't know about you guys, but I think that's a pretty decent home.
I think so.
For some orphans.
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We really appreciate it.
Well, thanks for having me.
I'm sorry I did not like this movie as much as you and Caleb.
I apologize.
I think it's more fun when everyone doesn't agree.
I can agree with that.
Yeah, those are usually our better episodes.
Yeah.
So next week, apparently we will be having a special guest that I did not know of just until like five minutes before we started recording.
Next week, we'll be breaking down Shang-Chi and is it the legend of the Ten Rings or just the Ten Rings?
I think it's the legend of the Ten Rings.
So we'll be breaking down Shang-Chi and the legend of the train chain Ten Rings with special guest Vic from Crash and Taz's movie seller.
So but until then, this has been the All Bros podcast with special guest Beth from the untrained eye.
And we will see you guys next week.
So long.
You're not going to do the Herbert voice, really?
I'm sorry, ma'am. I'm not feeling it this week. I'm sorry.
All right. Deuces.