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But this week on the podcast, in Funko Focus, we have a couple new figures that we're gonna
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One's from Star Wars line.
I was going to talk about it in the Collector Corps theme, but some of these figures were
just like way too cool to not talk about, which we'll get into.
Then up in 4K spotlight, we have three, technically seven new releases that we'll be discussing.
And then in Through the Wall, we're gonna be talking about the final- is it the final
or is it just the second?
No, it's the final.
Okay, yeah.
We're gonna be talking about the final Halloween Kills trailer that came out.
Then after that, we will get into our breakdown, which is going to be of Cruella.
Yeah.
Yeah, so without further ado, let's get into it.
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Alrighty, first up in Funko Focus.
I have a little bit less, I feel to say about this line, so I'll go first.
We have two figures, at least ones that are standing out.
We're getting into Mandalorian, and they have two moments.
I don't know what you would call these because these technically weren't in the show.
One of them was.
One of them was in the show.
One of them was not in the show.
So it'll be interesting to see what they call this one.
But the first one that was in the show is a Grogu meditating on the rock, which is freaking
epic.
He has his eyes closed and his three little fingers in a circle.
He is straight up meditating.
And it is magical.
It is magical.
This one looks so cool.
But I just love all the freaking Grogu figures that they've come up with.
The next one is, I don't know what to technically call this.
I'm going to call it a moment.
This one's freaking badass.
This is kind of like a prelude into the poster that was released today.
The poster?
You didn't see that?
No.
Yeah, they released the first...
Well, how about you talk about it first and then I'll say what poster they released.
Okay.
So this figure is Boba Fett sitting on, it looks like just some big ass throne.
And he has like his newly painted armor on.
And then Fennec is the assassin is standing behind him.
It kind of looks like she's floating.
It does.
I don't know what's up with that.
So maybe she's going to be a separate piece.
I don't really know.
That's what I was thinking too.
But I mean, they did release a picture of like the individual.
So I don't know what the deal is with that one.
But it looks like she's kind of like standing behind the throne that Boba Fett's on.
And it just looks so cool.
It does.
So what poster are you talking about?
So they released the first official poster for the book of Boba Fett.
Isn't that what the show is called?
Yes.
And actually this I'm pretty sure is the exact same thing.
He's actually sitting on Jabba's throne.
Is it Jabba's?
Yeah.
Pretty sure that's Jabba's.
Oh snap, I just looked it up.
That is epic.
Right?
Yeah.
That's a cool ass poster.
Dude, Boba Fett's so cool.
He is.
He really is.
Oh, I'm so excited.
Oh, and that streams this year.
Oh shit, really?
December 29th.
Oh, hell yeah.
If this poster I'm looking at is real.
I mean, I'm sure it's real because Disney, like the Disney Plus official page announced
today.
Yeah, they're releasing it December 29th.
This is going to be dope.
Dude, I don't know what it is.
Like, I feel like the Mandalorian, like though Star Wars does such a good job with helmets.
This is true.
Like say what you will about Captain Phasma and how shitty, like how she got nothing to
do as a character.
I feel so bad for that actress, but her armor and her helmet are just amazing.
Yeah, I don't feel that bad for that actress because I'm willing to bet you that that check
was fat.
Fair enough.
Yeah, but all of their like Star Wars helmets are iconic, I feel.
Like every single one of them, like they haven't had like a miss yet.
It's true.
Like stormtroopers, the First Order troopers, freaking Mandalorian.
I want a Mandalorian helmet.
And it's like I don't even want a helmet like the Mandalorian's helmet.
I just want a Mandalorian helmet that I can like paint and do myself.
Like I want to design one.
I want to get if anyone knows a 3D printer that'd be willing to make me a Mandalorian
helmet.
Let me know.
Because it's like no matter how dorky you might think Star Wars is, everyone freaking
looks cool in a Mandalorian helmet.
Like I freaking see people on TikTok all the time wearing Mandalorian helmets of all different
varieties.
And like they do their freaking TikToks in those helmets.
And I'm like, so cool.
Like yeah, you're doing dishes, but you you look epic.
Yeah.
Anything you do in that outfit, you look epic.
Exactly.
Like I want that in my life.
Yeah.
So if anyone knows someone that'd be willing to make me a Mandalorian helmet.
Hit him up.
But yeah, they have a few other Mandalorian figures that came out.
The I forget what his name is.
Timothy Oliphant, I think he was the sheriff.
Yeah, I think that's his name.
Yeah, they have him where he's wearing Boba Fett's beat up helmet.
And then they have a chase where he's unmasked.
They have a Fennec standalone.
They have Luke Skywalker holding Grogu, which is so cool.
They have the Frog Lady, which is going to be a Walgreens exclusive.
That one's weird.
That one's a weird Walgreens exclusive.
It's probably because they know she's going to be a shelf warmer if they make her just
a common.
So they're like, let's make her exclusive, see if anybody will actually try to get her.
Yeah.
And then they have a Walmart exclusive Boba Fett where he is unmasked.
Then they have a Mandalorian pop where he's holding the Beskar spear.
They have a dark trooper that's carrying Grogu.
They have one of those that glows in the dark, but the glow kind of sucks.
I think it's just the eyes.
So that's kind of lame.
And then for lack of a better description, Entertainment Earth is getting an exclusive
Mandalorian and it looks like a Force Ghost.
Yeah it does.
So yeah, it's just like a...
The best way to describe it is Force Ghost Mando.
Yep.
So yeah, those are all the figures, but the big ones I want to talk about were that Grogu
and the Boba Fett.
Yeah that's fair.
So anyway, Rose, what did you have for FunkoFuckers?
So for me, Funko announced that they're doing a shit ton of cartoon classics with Cartoon
Network's old shows.
And so some of it really stuck out to me.
We have Courage the Cowardly Dog with...
I don't know how to explain his pose.
He has his hands tightened in on his chest and he's gritting his teeth.
What Courage would do.
Yeah, it's his classic Courage pose.
Yeah, he looks great.
Freaking Blue's Clues.
This is so cool.
So they have a common with Blue waving high.
Or no, just showing his footprint I think.
Her.
Oh my god, wow.
I'm sorry, it's been so long since I've seen Blue's Clues.
And then they have a Hot Topic exclusive where she is flocked.
I hope this leads in to getting us more Blue's Clues figures.
I do too.
I love that Blue's Clues has re-entered the talk.
Because...
Oh my god, what's the guy's name?
Steve?
Steven?
No, I was saying the actor's name, not the actual character's name.
His name is Steven Burns.
Oh.
Now I feel like a dumbass.
So Steve?
How he came back and was just like, I never forgot about you guys.
And just like, oh my gosh.
Why you gotta hit me in the feels with that Steve, what the hell?
Yeah, frickin' sucker punch right to the gut.
Seriously.
But before I start tearing up, there's some other ones as well.
We got for the Powerpuff Girls, frickin' Mojo Jojo.
And then...
I actually don't even know this character.
I don't know him either.
Okay cool.
There's another character.
We don't know him though.
And then just two more I wanna talk about.
Frickin' the Powerpuff Girls, but they're in their flying poses.
Yup.
And the stand is their corresponding colors too.
It's so cool.
Oh my gosh.
I hate that I stopped collecting.
I'm not going back.
Dude, the only way that I would get any of those is if I could buy them all at one time.
Fair enough.
That's one of those figures you either have to have all of them or none of them.
Yeah.
You can't just have Buttercup.
You can't have Blossom.
Just no.
You have to have all of them.
Yeah.
I feel like you could have Mojo Jojo on his own.
You could have Courage on his own.
You can't have two or one of the Powerpuff Girls.
Yeah.
No, you need them all.
You need them all.
And then so last but certainly not least, we have some Dexter's Laboratory coming out.
One with Dexter pushing one of his...just a button on a controller.
I don't know what it's to, but he's pressing that button.
And then you have Dee Dee being her annoying ass self and just with one hand to her side
and then she has her other arm up to her side.
She looks like she's doing like the I'm a little teapot short and stout.
Isn't that how it freaking goes?
I don't know.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Dude, I don't know what it was.
I felt like it was...I think this just kind of grew into eventually what I started hating
about real people.
I hated people like Dee Dee.
That wanted to enjoy life?
Yeah.
I just see people that were just irresponsibly happy.
I don't know how else to describe it.
It's just seeing people that are always in a good mood.
Like I cannot stand those people.
That is funny.
I shouldn't laugh, but that's funny.
Like kudos to you if you can be always smiling.
Just know that I dislike you to your core.
Like it's not even that I dislike you as a...actually it is.
I dislike you as a person.
Damn.
Is it harsh to say that I hate the essence of your being?
When you express to me...I know people that are that happy and giddy all the time, but
they have shared with me some sadness from their life.
And then I'm like, okay, now I can view you as a normal human being.
But if I never get close enough to someone to understand that they've gone through heart
ache and they're just happy all the time, my instinct is to destroy it.
Oh, you're happy?
Watch what I have planned.
Not for long.
Well, you're happy.
That's cute.
I can fix that.
I'm awful.
I feel like I'm...
Please let me know if anyone else feels that way.
I mean, sometimes I feel I'm that way.
Sometimes I'll see like co-workers just like smiling, they're just like, oh, I just love
being here.
It's such a great job.
I'm like, no, we all hate it here.
You don't have to lie to yourself.
It's like if you do truly love it here, your life is sad.
Exactly.
It's like you have nothing going for you if this is the highlight of your life.
Your face got like really serious.
Yeah.
Like, what was that about?
I don't know.
I was like, I wasn't talking about people that work there in general.
I'm talking about the people that were happy to be there.
I know.
I'm just kidding.
We almost had like a real coming to Jesus moment right there.
We did, yeah.
I was like, no, like you, oh my gosh, why did it just make me all flustered?
I'm sorry.
I started getting, I almost started going like, no, I mean, I mean, most people have
something to look forward to.
It's just the people that are happy.
It's like, you know, Caleb, I'm going to be right back, but I'm actually not.
So okay, this is getting like really dark here.
Oh, good hell.
Anyway, let's move on.
So I think that's it for Funko Focus, right?
Yep.
Okay.
All right.
Moving on to 4K Spotlight.
We have technically seven new releases coming out.
We're not going to go through each individual one, but we'll cover the big ones.
Yeah.
So let's start with Halloween just because those aren't like actual like new movies coming
to 4K.
But so this is kind of interesting.
Last week, which was, oh my gosh, what was, what was yesterday?
The 28th.
So I guess Halloween was released on 4K only because it had already been released on 4K
already.
And this was just a new version.
So that's actually in stores right now.
But Halloween's two through five, they're supposed to come out on October 5th.
But from what I'm hearing, they actually might have gotten delayed.
I don't know till when, but I mean, I'm just going off blu-ray.com.
It still says October 5th.
And I mean, I do want to get these eventually, but I kind of want to wait till they're a
little maybe on sale because fricking adding these all to your cart, you see $150 price
tag and you're like, that's a lot of money.
Yeah.
I think it's hard to drop that much when it's coming in like one thing.
Yeah, that's true.
But apparently with Halloween 5, even though I hate that movie, there is like an alternate
ending that involves like the SWAT team or something like that.
I don't know.
That's interesting.
So yeah, all of these have actually like a couple new special features.
They're not like just a bare bones, hey, here's a 4k version of it.
No special features.
You're actually getting quite a bit new stuff with these releases.
So if you guys want Halloween's one through five, they are coming to 4k soon, hopefully.
It still says October 5th.
So I'm assuming it's October 5th still.
And then so movies actually coming out or like that haven't been released yet are so
we got first we have free guy.
And so that is getting a 4k release as well as a oh my gosh, where the hell is that?
Did I was I oh shit, dude, I was looking at the wrong date.
I lied guys.
I'm sorry.
Free guy does not come out till next week.
Do not listen to me.
I'm sorry.
I got confused.
But Space Jam a new legacy comes out because everyone's so excited about that one.
Like come on.
That one was in a horrible movie.
No, I actually I actually kind of enjoyed that one.
But so that is getting a 4k release as well as a Best Buy exclusive steelbook.
And you know what I actually appreciate about this movie, or at least the steelbook, it
went with the shitty design that the first steelbook went with for the first movie.
So yeah, I mean, but at least they're being consistent.
So but now instead of like it being like just like a regular basketball court, it's like
the light up one like that was in the final basketball game in the movie.
And so on the front circle, it's bugs and LeBron.
And then on the back, I think it's Don Cheadle's character.
And actually doesn't show.
But I'm pretty sure it's Don Cheadle's character and frickin one of his like henchmen or some
shit like that.
So literally the exact same as the first Space Jam steelbook, but with like the layout for
Space Jam and New Legacy with all the fun colors.
Okay, that redeems the design a little bit.
Not a lot.
I'm not giving you you lazy asses credit.
Just a little bit.
Oh shit.
Like instead of angry face, you get one of those like slightly raised eyebrows.
There.
Dude, I swear my knowledge for what's coming out on 4k is like all over the place because
now if I go on Amazon, actually Halloween 1978 isn't available also until October 5th.
I was lied to by the blu ray community on YouTube.
This is bullshit.
More importantly, it was wet movie one.
Brendan, it was wet movie one.
Brendan, what the hell?
I'm kidding.
I love you, man.
You don't know me, but I love you, man.
Keep up the good work.
If he even listens to the show.
He doesn't.
How trippy would it be if he did?
That would be pretty cool considering I've been watching that guy's videos since like
freaking what 2012.
He's been on YouTube for a very long time.
I believe it.
But so yeah, that's it for 4k spotlight, even though I lied to you guys a lot and I apologize.
Well hopefully you'll you'll be forgiven.
I hope so.
I really do.
All right.
Moving on over to through the wall.
We got our final trailer for Halloween kills.
Don't mind me.
I'm just, you know, like trying to hide my, you know what over here?
Gross.
What?
Oh, so it's OK to make the joke about the Hawkeye trailer, but I can't do it about the
Halloween kills trailer.
It's the way that you hide it.
You should have just come out and just said what you meant to say.
OK.
Oh, but dude, this trailer was epic.
Right.
Oh my gosh.
Freaking the kid.
So I love.
So it opens up with Lindsey Wallace, one of the survivors from 1978, and she's just like
she approaches two boys swinging on the swing.
She's just like, hey, what are you guys doing out here?
One kid just savagely.
It's Halloween.
We're trick or treating.
It's like, duh.
So I didn't recognize a lot of those the older characters from the original until the end.
Oh, like they showed like the size there, like the comparison of.
Yeah.
Like I was just like, OK, just some rando like yelling at these kids.
And it's like, oh, these survivors.
I'm like, oh, yeah.
So what's interesting is so the guy that that is playing Tommy Doyle, is it not the original
guy that played him?
It's a different actor.
But I'm actually OK with the change because I think the guy that they picked to play is
a really good actor.
So so the only ones that actually came back that were actually in Halloween 1978 are just
Jamie Lee Curtis and the girl that played Lindsey Wallace.
So but it's going to be interesting because in the trailer, Lori, like during this, she
like they're showing like how they were in 1978 to in 2018.
You know, she's saying.
Forty years ago, the boogeyman came for us.
We are the survivors of Michael Myers.
And it shows Lonnie, one of the bullies to Tommy Doyle in the first one, his encounter
a little bit with Michael Myers.
But that was actually never in Halloween 1978.
So they're actually adding more to what Michael Myers did on that night.
So that's actually going to be really interesting.
Wait, what do you mean they're adding more?
Well, like they're adding like stuff like in a way like.
We never saw like we never saw Michael do.
So are they adding?
Wait, that's confusing.
Are they adding like deleted scenes?
No, it's not deleted scenes.
They're kind of like adding their own stuff to what happened to that shady.
I mean, yeah, but the thing is, though, John Carpenter actually has like a lot to do with
this new timeline.
Like he's actually like put his foot forward.
He's helped a lot.
Guy's scoring all three of these Halloween 2018, Halloween kills and Halloween ends.
And he scored the original to better than.
Yeah.
So because like thinking back to the original, I'm like, OK, was Lonnie the one kid that
after like, I don't know if you remember after Lonnie and his friends bully Tommy Doyle,
like they push him down and like he falls on his pumpkin at school.
Do you remember that scene?
Vaguely.
OK.
Well, there's a there's a part where one kid starts running down the stairs and actually
like runs into Michael and he looks up at him and like he stands there for a minute
and then runs away.
I thought that was actually Tommy Doyle, but it's actually not.
That was a completely different kid.
But so, yeah, I guess in this timeline, Tommy actually did have an encounter with the shape
in 1978.
So that's going to be interesting.
But freaking Michael, this is I've said this before, but this is the most violent and ruthless
I have ever seen Michael Myers.
And I love it so much.
Dude, I love how the whole fricking town is in on getting him.
That is such IGN pointed that out in their in their review, because I don't know if you
guys listened to a couple of episodes ago, but there there have been like reviews already
for Halloween kills and it's kind of mixed right now.
But you know, not everyone has seen it yet.
We'll see how it is.
But IGN points out that the idea of like a town getting together and wanting to stop
something that has haunted them for 40 years is such an interesting idea for a sequel.
And they said that sometimes Halloween kills doesn't exactly know what to do with that
completely.
Yeah, so I can see that.
I think it's just a lot of execution.
That's fair.
I mean, I give David Gordon Green credit for doing that idea.
Like it's not just one girl.
It's no a town has lived in fear of this guy for 40 years and they're fricking done with
it.
I think that's such a great idea.
Yeah, that's a really good idea.
And especially if they're adding stuff that he did that night, then it just then it doesn't
feel like he was only Bushwhacking Laurie.
Laurie's friends.
Yeah.
Then it felt like he was like making his way through and then just got caught up with Laurie.
Yeah, exactly.
So it definitely seems like they're adding to the lore and I'm honestly okay with that.
Yeah, I'm down.
I appreciate especially that like, like John Carpenter is actually like given his blessing
for the stuff that they're adding.
I love that.
Yeah, you know that that's always a sign that they're doing good.
If the creator is given the go.
Yeah, no, I agree.
It's funny.
I'm in like an interview a couple years ago.
Someone asks John Carpenter like, Hey, how do you feel about all of these sequels, you
know, that were like, kind of varied off of your work and like, didn't really follow what
you wanted Michael to be.
He's just like, just like, son, whenever I see the word Halloween or Michael Myers in
a movie, I just have to open my hand and just money falls into it.
I'm just like, you know, Carpenter, I appreciate that.
I love you for that.
That's great.
That's, that's pretty good.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, they freaking Michael Myers is just so ruthless in this one.
I can't, I can't get over it.
This is going to be an insane movie and I'm hoping that they keep with what they did in
the 2018 where they didn't rely too heavily on the jump scares and all that.
I hope so as well, cause I don't know, in a horror movie with like a slasher, I don't
really think you need jump scares that much.
You're here for the gore.
That's what you're here for.
You're, you're there to get people, watch people get Bushwhacked as F'ed up as that
sounds.
You are there to watch people get killed in cool ways or gruesome ways, however you want
to put it.
Yeah.
So high hopes for this movie.
Oh yeah, dude.
I'm already like checking to see, uh, when tickets go on sale.
Cause I think I'm going to see this Thursday night.
Oh, that's going to be epic.
I got to see this movie opening night.
Like I've waited so long for this movie.
Yeah.
I'm going to, I'm going to wait to see it for the first time with you.
Okay.
Unless things like fall through, then I'll, I'll, I'll go watch it, watch it through
streaming.
But yeah, I, I'm thoroughly excited for, for this.
Uh, so one out of 10, what does this trailer do?
10.
Easy.
I'm still sitting at about a nine.
Like a little on the soft side, but I'm still really good.
Yeah.
Um, funny enough, I was watching when you sent me that, um, that video, I was actually
playing on the VR headset and my messenger notifications pop up on there.
So when you sent me the link, I was able to open it on YouTube.
And so I watched it like on like a freaking massive screen is so dude, it was the shit.
Oh, bitch.
Exactly.
I was just like, Whoa.
Gosh, I can't wait to do that.
I know me too.
Um, all right.
Well I think that covers through the wall.
So let's move into this week's breakdown.
Do it.
All right.
For this week's headliner, we will be breaking down Cruella.
I was going to break into the song, but no.
Um, yeah.
So unfortunately we did not post the question of the week with this one.
Um, did I feel bad?
We've like been really slacking with that kind of stuff.
Yeah.
It happens guys.
Yeah.
Well, we'll, we'll make more of an effort to post the, uh, the figures that we talk
about and like all that stuff that we talk about.
And I'll, I'll, I'll be better about making the, uh, the question of the week stuff.
Um, but anyway, if you guys are new to our breakdown system, we have split movies into
eight different categories that we individually grade to come to a final Albrose letter grade.
Um, the eight categories that we discuss are story, writing, acting, character development,
effects, music, costumes, and then we give it our own personal grade at the very end.
And then all of that magic gets added up together and spits out a letter grade for us based
off of the grade school or grade school system.
Uh, so without further ado, if further ado, I say it weird.
I thought I said it weird.
I sounded fine to me.
Okay.
I might just be losing it.
Yeah.
Um, but Rose is going to read us the synopsis for the movie.
So spoiler warning now.
Um, so if you listen past this point, it's your own damn fault.
If you run a movie for yourself.
So yeah, considering it's been on Disney plus for two, uh, considering it's been on Disney
plus to where you don't have to pay for a premier access, it's just there for subscribed
for like a month now.
Yeah.
So come on guys, come on.
Anyway, so reading with Rose everyone.
Oh yes.
With two ease.
No, it's what is it?
It's two.
It's two ease.
No I, oh yeah, that's what it is.
Oh man.
All right.
A Stella Miller is a creative child with a talent for fashion and a nefarious streak.
A Stella's mother, Catherine decides to pull her from school to keep her record clean and
move to London on the way there.
She stops at an upper-class party to ask for financial assistance.
Despite being told to stay in the car, A Stella sneaks into the party and unintentionally
attracts the attention of the host three ferocious Dalmatians.
They chase her outside and push Catherine off a cliffside balcony to her death.
Orphaned and blaming herself for Catherine's death, A Stella runs away to London and befriends
street urchins Jasper and Horace who take her in.
Ten years later, A Stella practices thievery with her friends, owning her fashion skills
by designing their disguises.
For her birthday, I almost said Dasper.
Jasper and Horace get her an entry-level job at the Liberty department store.
However, A Stella is made a janitor and denied the chance to use her talents.
When A Stella drunkenly redecorates a window display, the Baroness Von Hellman, a renowned
but authoritarian courture designer, is impressed with A Stella's work and offers her a coveted
job at the Baroness's fashion house.
A Stella eagerly accepts and gains the Baroness's confidence.
Although proud that her designs are put on display, she eventually notices her boss wearing
a necklace that once belonged to Catherine.
When the Baroness claims that an employee had previously stolen it, A Stella asks Jasper
and Horace to help her retrieve the necklace during the Baroness's upcoming black and white
ball.
To conceal her identity at the ball, A Stella creates an alter ego for herself named Cruella
and wears one of the Baroness's old designs purchased from a vintage clothing store owner
named Arty.
Cruella steals the spotlight at the ball, buying Jasper and Horace enough time to break
into the Baroness's high-security vault only to realize that the Baroness is already wearing
the necklace.
Jasper, straying from the original plan, disguises himself as a waiter and releases rats into
the party.
As panic ensues, A Stella manages to swipe the necklace.
Noticing her necklace hasn't stolen, the Baroness summons her Dalmatians with a dog whistle,
causing A Stella to realize that the Baroness is ultimately responsible for Catherine's
death.
Seeking revenge, A Stella orders Jasper and Horace to kidnap the Baroness's Dalmatians.
Cruella upstages the Baroness by appearing at events and gatherings in extravagant fashions,
gaining notoriety via A Stella's childhood friend and columnist, Anita Darling.
Cruella's haughty and arrogant behavior increasingly discomforts Jasper and Horace, as well as the
Baroness.
A Stella sabotages the Baroness's spring collection show and simultaneously stages her own show
in Regents Park, wearing a Fawkes Dalmatian fur coat to further taunt the Baroness, having
realized that A Stella and Cruella are the same person, the Baroness has Jasper and Horace
arrested and sets fire to their home.
A Stella is left to die in the blaze, but is rescued by the Baroness's valet, John.
A Stella discovers the necklace unlocks a box containing her birth records.
He learns that the Baroness is her biological mother.
At her birth, the Baroness ordered John to have the infant A Stella murdered so she could
focus solely on her career and keep her late husband's inheritance.
John instead gave the baby to Catherine, one of the Baroness's maids, who raised A Stella
in secret.
Cruella breaks Jasper and Horace out of prison and reveals the truth, recruiting them.
Lady and John for her final scheme.
The quintet sneaks into the Baroness's charity gala, where A Stella meets her on the cliffside
balcony, revealing she is the Baroness's daughter.
The Baroness feigns embracing A Stella before pushing her over the balcony.
She then realizes that her guests have been led outside and witnessed the act.
A Stella survives with a hidden parachute, and with A Stella symbolically dead, adopts
her Cruella persona for good.
The Baroness is arrested, and Cruella inherits Hellman Hall, renaming it Hell Hall, and moving
in with the rest of the quintet.
In a mid-credits scene, Cruella delivers two Dalmatian puppies, Pongo and Purdy, to Roger
Deerley, the Baroness's former lawyer, and Anita, respectively.
Now an aspiring songwriter, Roger begins composing the song Cruella De Vil.
Wow, I struggle with that so bad.
So bad.
Nah, I feel like that one was a tough one.
Okay, phew.
One thing about that ending though, why in the hell would Roger write a song about her
like that?
I can agree with that, because from what I saw, he only saw A Stella's side.
He never saw Cruella's side.
Yeah, so I don't think he ever thought Cruella was evil.
Yeah.
I don't know, I mean, I guess they had to have a prelude into 101 Dalmatians.
Odd.
Whatever.
So starting off with story, we ended up giving this an 83.5.
Not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all.
Definitely one of the weaker stories that we've had lately.
Yeah.
But I feel when it comes to like some of Disney's live action interpretations, at least to me,
this is one of the better ones.
I will give you that.
I think that they did a really good job at humanizing Cruella instead of just making
her a puppy killing monster.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, like honestly, when they first announced this movie, I'm like, do we really need an
origin for Cruella De Vil?
Like I got all that I needed to in the original animated film.
She's a wicked person that likes to turn Dalmatians into fur coats.
That's really all I needed.
And she smoked a lot.
That was also.
Yeah, but I'm kind of glad that they did away with that aspect of her.
I am too.
And honestly, I think this movie did a really good job humanizing Cruella De Vil.
I guess just Cruella, she doesn't really start.
Does she even go by Cruella De Vil at the end?
Yes.
She does?
Okay.
Yeah.
But okay, that was one thing I wanted to discuss too.
That was something I hated, how she got the name De Vil.
Yeah, that was kind of dumb.
Yeah.
It's from a car.
Yeah, it was Horace.
He was like, oh, I found the name.
Like the car has a name.
It's called a devil.
And then Jasper was just like, you imbecile, it's a De Vil.
And then she's just like, oh, I like that.
And I'm like, nah, like that's so stupid.
Like you know what I was thinking they were going to do?
With all the reports of Cruella being dead, I thought that she was just going to like
reappear and people were going to start calling her the devil.
That's how they're all in there like their spin.
Like I would have been so much happier if they're just like, oh, it's Cruella, Cruella
the devil.
And then she's like, oh, De Vil.
Oh, like De Villain.
Yeah, or something along those lines.
Like I would have much preferred that.
Anything better than just out of a freaking car.
Yeah, it's a De Vil.
I like that.
I don't.
Well, I mean, how did you feel about when she was a kid?
Like what was it?
Her mom's just like, remember, be a Stella, don't turn into a Cruella or something like
that.
That's okay.
That one that I appreciated.
Like it's just like one of those cute childish nicknames.
Yeah.
And it's like not even like it wasn't supposed to be like cute or anything.
It was just she was kind of a real bitch when she was a kid.
Little bit.
And like her her mom was just always telling her like, oh, we need to follow the pattern.
She's like, well, that's ugly.
And she's yeah, it calls her Cruella.
And yeah, I really liked that.
Like, I just I love the attitude of young Cruella.
Yeah, the actress is so I mean, sorry, skipping ahead.
Um, the actress who played young Cruella.
Bravo Bravo.
Amazing job.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll we'll definitely get into that a little bit later because I did throw the
young kids in for a minute.
Like just like I made their whatever scores I gave them, I made them.
Theirs count a little less than the main.
But yes, just getting back into the story and all that.
I think they did a really good job at.
Kind of leaving you on your toes a little bit when it came to information about everyone.
Like yeah.
The reveal that Cruella was actually the Baroness's daughter.
Like I will say that's a twist I wasn't quite expecting.
I was not either.
I did not see that coming.
Yeah.
Um, I thought she was going to have like a bigger grudge with the Dalmatians.
Like I thought it was going to be.
Yeah, I thought so too.
The dogs in general after that and or didn't even seem like she hated the dogs.
No.
I mean, awfully.
Yeah.
I'm like, hell, do we need a Cruella too now to freaking really understand?
Yeah.
Like the the one I think the one thing that I wish that they wouldn't have done is with
the ending making it seem like they were like that's like a perfect tie into the 100 Dalmatians.
Yeah.
Or 101 Dalmatians or whatever.
I feel like.
Or at second time.
I like with the Cruella that they gave us in this, I can't see her doing the stuff she
does in the animated movie.
I can't either.
And like I try to think, OK, what about like Glenn Close's 101 Dalmatians or Glenn Close's
Cruella De Vil in the live action remakes?
But same thing.
She is portrayed the same way as she is in the animated film.
So I don't know.
It seems like this is like a new take on Cruella De Vil.
It's not the exact same Cruella De Vil that we get in the original animated film.
And I'm not opposed to that.
Like if you if you want to rewrite a character and like see where they can go from here,
by all means, go right, you know, go right ahead.
And I mean, honestly, I would love to see Emma Stone come back and play this character
again if they ever do decide to do a sequel and take her character even further.
Yeah, I agree.
The way that like just because they tied it in that way, the way that I I'm viewing what
this was in the ultimate Disney universe, like I know that ultimately this is just like
its own standalone thing.
I feel like the one hundred and one Dalmatians and all those movies, anything like the Glenn
Close, all that, I feel like that's I'm considering that legacy.
Like that's the the that's the lore that was created about Cruella.
OK, because everyone was thinking that that was real Dalmatian, like what she was wearing
at the.
At the end, like everyone thought, oh, is that real Dalmatian?
And she always talked about like killing dogs.
If we're going to didn't Jasper kind of have to like like make sure that she was kidding
at one point.
Yeah.
And even then he wasn't like quite sure.
Yeah.
And then even like, I don't know, even like some of the other characters, like she they'd
ask like, oh, was that real Dalmatian?
And she would just like laugh it off or wink or whatever.
Like we knew it wasn't.
But I think it's just like that it like I consider like it's that that became the lore
that one hundred and one Dalmatians became where it's just like, oh, we're going to make
an animated movie of this lady who killed dogs.
The honestly, this movie is maybe want to go back and watch not only like the original
and probably even 102 Dalmatians or sorry, one hundred and one Dalmatians to Patches
London Adventure, because that's like one of the Disney sequels, like the direct to
DVDs that I actually have like a soft spot for.
I watched that so much as a kid.
But I really actually want to go back and watch the Glenn Close, Cruella De Vil, 101
Dalmatian movies, because I haven't seen those since I was a kid.
I've been wanting to like this made me want to go back and rewatch those two.
Yeah.
And the fact that oh my gosh, what is it?
Guy that played the Weasley's dad.
Do you remember his name?
I don't remember the actor, but I know who you're talking about.
Oh yeah.
He I think he plays Horace in those movies.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Yeah.
This was this was a really fun story.
Like I think it brought a new humanity to the character, which I feel like any other
live action representation of villains like Maleficent.
Like it did it humanized.
Yeah.
These these these classic Disney villains.
I'm actually going to say this.
I actually liked this one better than Maleficent.
I did too.
Yeah.
Like I think it gets Maleficent.
Angelina Jolie is great in the role, but I don't know.
I mean, like honestly, at some parts in Maleficent, I got a little bored.
No part throughout this movie was I being like, oh my God, this is starting to drag
on.
It didn't really feel like a two hour movie to me.
Geez, I didn't even realize it was two hours.
Yeah, it's like two.
Yeah, it's like two hours and I think 10 minutes.
Damn, it didn't.
Yeah, it definitely did not feel that long.
Yeah, right.
Like it felt like a really like solid movie, like a good length movie, but not like two
hours.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's that's a that's a really good sign for how well this movie flowed.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, they kept everything like on beat and anything that I feel like they could have
drug on.
They made funny in a way or they just gave something for you to like.
They just enhanced like some of the scenes like one of the ones for me that I felt like
could have been dragging on a lot or that could have felt like it was dragging on was
when they were looking at that dress that was all.
Like shiny and everything.
Oh, yeah.
And like I felt like that could have been a little bit like being drug along, but I
think they they were able to keep a really solid flow.
Yes, I agree.
And just like given those like little cuts and stuff.
Just enough for us to to remain interested.
Yeah.
Like they they different they I feel like they definitely like towed that line a little
bit, but they never crossed into boring territory.
No, no, I absolutely agree.
But other than that, like.
Pacing felt good.
Overall like.
Like an eighty three point five, that's like.
A little bit above average.
Yeah.
So I think that's a pretty decent like there wasn't anything like outstanding about this
story.
There wasn't anything that just like blew you away.
I think the biggest thing that could have done that was the reveal.
But I think once we got to there, I think there was a point where that's what it was
leading into.
Yeah.
And then you're like, oh, OK, now I see what they're doing.
Like it's the overall reveal like didn't come as a total shock.
It's just that like it wasn't like out of nowhere.
She's your mother.
And you're like, oh, it is.
They kind of led into it very slowly.
So you're like, oh, OK, so this is what they're doing.
Yeah, I feel this movie actually did something that I feel a lot of movies don't do with
those kind of surprises is it actually had a very good lead in or lead up to.
Yeah.
Not much else I can say about the story.
No, I mean, I'm shocked of how well this worked.
Yeah.
This is a lot better than I was expecting it to be.
Yeah.
All right.
Moving on over to writing, it was actually just slightly higher than the story, sitting
at an eighty four.
Not bad.
Yeah.
I really enjoyed the humor of this.
Yeah, me too.
This movie.
I think something that brought it down for me a little bit was was Horace and his constant
like the angle.
I actually loved that every single time he made that joke.
We'll see angle.
Yeah.
We'll see angle.
Come on, that's being angle.
Well, I love the.
Yeah, I.
Like it was funny the first couple of times, but then it just got to the point where I'm
like, OK, shut up.
I think it's kind of the point that, you know, he's supposed to be not the brightest in the
bunch.
I'm sorry.
Jasper is definitely the smarter one out of the two.
Yeah.
So so I think that's kind of just supposed to be the joke, which sometimes those jokes
work for me.
Sometimes they don't.
In this case, it actually did work for me.
The fact that he just kept repeating it.
Yeah, I agree.
I felt like this movie was very quippy.
It was.
It absolutely was.
Like, I can't remember, like specific.
Quips, but it just was.
I don't know.
Like, I feel like there was a lot of mixture between the writing and the acting.
Like I feel like the the writing could have come off as cheesy, but it was just the actors
that that made it not.
But when you think about the lines, it it does come off in a very cheesy way.
Like that was something I noticed.
I'm like, OK, though, that line was a little funky or this line was a little funky.
Yeah.
OK, I get you.
A lot of the the the funkiness that I was I was feeling was from the dialogue between
Estella and the Baroness.
After Cruella came, because once once she started becoming Cruella and adopting that
persona, her Estella started feeling very weird.
She did because like like how towards the beginning, like the Baroness would like always
correct her about saying sorry.
She'd be like, oh, no, I'm so sorry.
Oh, you know, like she felt like really bad for it.
But when she finally came out as Cruella and she's hiding as a step, she would kind of
like be like smart ass with it.
She would say sorry.
She'd be like, oh, there I go again.
You know, oops, I forgot that's not allowed here.
Yeah, that like it was shit like that.
Like when she was like unapologetically just being an asshole, that I was like, I was fine
with that stuff.
It was just when she was trying to play all innocent and go like being over the top about
it.
Yeah.
Like, OK, she's freaking chill.
No, I get where you're coming from with that.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of like some other shit that I'm just like, yeah.
One flaw I feel in the writing and I didn't quite know where to put this gripe.
So I did end up putting it in the writing was how the Baroness killed Cruella's mom.
That is fair because it is.
It comes from like so many different angles at you because like at the beginning, it's
that her mom was pushed by the Dalmatians, wasn't that how?
Yeah.
And then later on, she realizes that, oh, it's because it was because.
Oh, shit.
It was because the Baroness had the whistle and kind of like made the dogs push her.
Yeah.
So at the beginning, Estella thought it was because the dogs were chasing her.
They thought that she had gone closer to closer to her mom.
And so that's why they knocked her off.
But then it turns out that the Baroness was using a dog whistle and that's why that happened.
And yeah, just I completely understand where you're coming from with that.
Yeah.
What I thought was weird was how in the beginning, all we see is these dogs freaking come and
push her mom over.
We didn't hear the whistle, at least not as prominently as we heard it when they revealed
that that's what she did.
I mean, didn't we get a close up, though, of her blowing it?
Not at the beginning.
Well, no, I mean, like when it's actually shown that that's what she was doing.
Yeah, like it showed us that.
Like it showed that she was like sicking the dog on Horace.
I'm wondering if maybe they would just call put in the fact that, you know, dog whistles
are only at a frequency only dogs can hear unless like, of course, you're like really
close to the person.
Yeah.
But then Cruella wouldn't have been like she was like laying on the ground and like the
dogs jumped over her.
So she wouldn't have been able to see that the Baroness was blowing a whistle or even
having heard that she was blowing the whistle.
That's fair.
So it's just kind of like they made it seem like the the whistle was like a big enough
thing that she noticed or just kind of like blocked from her memory or whatever.
Yeah, nothing they showed us in that opening sequence when that first happened kind of
reveals to us that that's what happened or that that's oh, shit, what's the word I'm
looking for?
It never foreshadowed that that was the case.
Like we never heard like a slight whistle or whatever.
It was like we had no reason to suspect that she heard anything.
Yeah.
So it did kind of feel like it was like forced in there that she's like, oh, suddenly like
memory unlocked.
No, yeah, you got a point.
Yeah.
So I think that was like one of my my biggest issues with with the writing.
Other than that, I thought a lot like the dialogue was was really good for the most
part.
Nothing again, nothing outstanding, nothing like super awful.
Yeah.
But I think that was the biggest thing for me that I docked for was the the whole dog
thing.
That's fair.
Like honestly, nothing about it.
That's why.
I mean, one of the reasons why I dropped it to or put it at what I was at for me, like
the story and the writing were like like basically the exact same for me.
Story was just as good as the writing because I was actually amazed of how many times this
movie actually made me laugh.
I was too.
This movie made me laugh a surprising amount.
A lot more than I expected it to.
Yeah.
Same here.
All right.
Well, I think that's everything in writing.
So moving on over to acting.
Let me pull up the cast list real fast.
All right.
So we have Emma Stone, who played Cruella DeVille, Emma Thompson, who played the Baroness,
Joel Fry, who played Jasper and Paul, Paul Walter Howser, who played Horace.
Yeah, buddy.
Hell yeah.
Going back really quick to the.
Where is the young Cruella?
Yeah, going back to to young Cruella and like young Jasper and Horace.
They the kids other than than Cruella.
Jasper and Horace, the young versions of them, dropped the score for me a lot.
That's fair.
I think the the kid that played Jasper as a kid was not that bad, actually.
He was the one that I had issues with.
Really?
Yeah, it was like it was his dialogue.
It's just like her mother died.
Like you remember how that was.
Like it just felt so odd.
Yeah, OK.
Yeah.
Like it felt almost icky how he said it.
I'm just like, oh, like, come on, man.
I don't know.
Maybe that's just how he deals with the grief.
Talking like that.
I don't know.
Yeah, I thought it was weird.
I get you.
But I think Horace actually did or young Horace did a better job.
That's it's funny, though, because the young Horace had felt like a lot less lines than
young Jasper.
Yeah.
But as they got older, like once they jumped into Joel Fry and Paul, Paul Hauser.
It actually switched.
I think I had more issues with Horace than I did with Jasper.
But Jasper's dialogue at times still also felt like a little off.
That's fair.
Like, honestly, because 101 Dalmatians has always been one of my favorite Disney movies
as a kid and even as an adult.
And Horace and Jasper, like I actually like them better.
I like them when it comes to sidekick villains.
Not talking about main villains, I think they're the best ones.
Like those two and Cruella De Vil together are just like bread and butter to me.
They're just amazing together.
So I was like a little worried when they announced who was playing Horace and Jasper in this
movie.
But these two like really surprised me.
It's definitely a different angle a little bit, especially I feel with Jasper.
This is definitely not the Jasper that we see in 101 Dalmatians.
Horace you kind of could say he's kind of still like the nitwit that he is in the original
movie.
But this Jasper is definitely not the dick that he is in that one.
Because I don't know about you, but he's a complete asshole in the original 101 Dalmatians.
Joel Fry, who played Jasper, hasn't done a whole lot of stuff.
Well I hope he gets more work because he's a really good actor.
I agree.
The other one, Horace on the other hand, Paul Walther Hauser, he's actually been in quite
a few things.
Yeah, he was actually in a movie that we just broke down.
What was it?
Last year I think?
That's not just breaking it down.
Okay sorry.
Okay, that we broke down last year.
Which one was that?
The Five Bloods.
Oh yeah.
I forgot about that one.
He always kind of plays like a weird character.
Like in I, Tanya, he was this guy, he was like a hired hitman.
Oh really?
Yeah, but he was just like some dude that lived with his mom.
Like he always just plays like a weird character.
I want to see him in Richard Jewell because he's the star in that one.
I've heard it's pretty good.
I mean it's directed by Clint Eastwood.
So I think them as a duo, I think they worked pretty well.
I did.
Do you really like the dynamic change between those two and Cruella?
I did too because like in the original it's never explained or at least I don't remember
it ever being explained how Cruella meets Horace and Jasper or how they met.
I don't think they ever discuss it.
I love the idea that they basically grew up together, all three of them, and they taught
her their way, she taught them a couple things with like disguises and kind of grew into
them being like their own little family.
I actually really like that angle that they took with this movie.
Yeah I really like that.
That's like a big thing that I love.
It was just the humanization because it's like in all these other iterations Horace
and Jasper are just treated like shit by Cruella and it's just like villainy stuff.
That's just how villains treat their henchmen.
They were able to make, when Cruella started becoming more aggressive towards them, Jasper
even said like, whoa, what is this?
Yeah, where the hell is that coming from?
Yeah, and then when she started getting more aggressive with them you felt it more, like
it had more of an emotional impact rather than her being like, you nitwits.
Yeah absolutely.
Like in the animated version.
I loved this angle.
Like whoever decided to have these characters meet in this way and grow from there, excellent
idea.
I loved it.
Yeah so good.
And then Emma Thompson.
Holy shit.
I love her.
Why is it she is so good at playing a bitch?
Yeah, I know right?
With this and saving Mr. Banks as P.L. Travers, like oh my god, like how is she so good at
playing the bitchy part?
Dude, she's amazing.
Like she seems like she is so nice.
I'm sure she actually is in real life.
I'm sure she's a sweetheart.
Damn, when she has to turn on the oh I'm an asshole or I'm a bitch, she like kicks it
up to an 11.
Yeah, no shit.
So I loved everything that she did in this.
Like it was insane.
And it was funny, like I started laughing when she pushed Cruella off the cliff and
then turned around realizing that everyone's freaking watching her and she's like, she
jumped.
Like are you shitting me?
You're going to try and talk yourself out of this?
Everyone just watched you push her.
I just love that scene for how like Estella is just like, you're not going to push me,
are you?
Doesn't that lead into the hug?
I was like, dude, that's like as soon as she said that, I'm just like, that's exactly what
she's going to do.
How did you like, how do you not realize that?
What else is she going to do?
She's not just going to give you a hug and be like, hey, me and my daughter are cool
now.
We're going to go live happily ever after.
Yeah, I'm like, damn well she's pushing you off that cliff.
She's getting that money one way or another.
I loved her, like Emma, kind of both of their performances, like their performances were
just so equal in my eyes.
I loved the first power move.
I love the power move of making those Dalmatians sit.
Yeah, I freaking loved that.
It's just like the little things that led up to that, like when the dog came to lay down
and he just started but stopped and looked at Cruella and she's just like, I'll allow
it.
Then he laid down, I'm just like, what a freaking power move.
I was just like, damn, that's awesome.
All right, who's your top three?
Definitely number one, Emma Stone.
I almost got them mixed up.
I'd probably say number two, Emma Thompson and then number three actually, I'm like,
so hard to pick between these two.
I love them both so much.
I'm going to give it to Paul Walter Hauser.
I'm actually in agreeance with you on the top two, but I'm going to give my number three
to Joel Fry who played Jasper.
I thought he did a really, really good job at selling everything.
I think it's kind of funny that both of our lists are basically the same.
It's just we switched horse and Jasper.
I love it.
That's cool.
Dude, I will say this.
There is one complaint that I have about this movie.
Would you have wasted Mark Strong anymore than?
Dude, straight up.
Straight up.
You could have had anyone else play this character.
John the Valet.
Yeah, John the Valet.
But no, you had to choose Mark Strong.
Whose bright idea was that?
He's in the Kingsman movies, isn't he?
Yeah.
You've seen how great of an actor he is and you put him in that little of a role.
He was freaking in Shazam.
He's been so much shit.
Yeah, he was in Shazam.
Let's see.
I'm pretty sure even Kingsman isn't his top credited.
He was in freaking 1917.
Shazam.
Kingsman.
Zero Dark Thirty.
Oh, I love that movie.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Kingsman again.
I always wanted to check out the Brothers Grimsby, but I never did.
Yeah.
Imitation game.
He was in like he's been in so much shit.
Oh, freaking hell.
He was Sinestro in The Green Lantern.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
I mean, come on.
Like, you're going to take this freaking like amazing actor, John the Valet.
Like don't get me wrong.
I love seeing Mark Strong.
Yeah, he is an amazing actor, but you're seriously like, come on.
Like I kept thinking like, oh, he's going to be like the Baroness's version of Jasper
and Horace.
Like, but he's going to be like mixed in the one.
He's going to be like a total badass and he's going to be taking Jasper and Horace on and
blah, blah, blah.
No, freaking he's barely in the freaking movie.
He like seriously, he he really well.
It was honestly sad.
Like I felt bad for Mark Strong.
Yeah.
But whatever, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he got a nice paycheck.
So at least there's that.
Yeah.
So we ended up giving acting an eighty three point five.
Not bad.
Yeah, not bad at all.
Moving on over to character development.
We ended up giving this collectively an eighty eight.
OK, that's not bad.
I actually was surprised about how much I love the character development.
I I loved seeing Estella as a child, seeing her per her other persona as Cruella, seeing
her true self.
That's who she saw as her true self.
But her mother telling her that, no, you need to hide that.
You know, the world isn't ready for someone like Cruella.
And so she hides it for so many years up until she's finally like, you know what?
No, I need to bring her out for a certain reason.
But also this is who I truly am.
And I'm sticking with that.
Estella is dead figuratively and literally.
I mean, she figuratively kills the person, but everyone thinks that she's actually dead.
And she just finally becomes who she believes that she truly is at the end of the movie.
Cruella DeVille.
And I thought it was a really good character arc, actually.
Yeah, I agree.
Like, I think it was really, really solid, like always having to just showing that she
has always had to suppress this other side of her and finally being able to unleash it
on the world.
Yeah.
And just constantly pursuing something that she was striving for, like always striving
to be what her mother thought she could be.
Like being great.
And she was.
But I think it just showed in this, which isn't very heroic like, so I don't think,
like in this, I don't feel like Cruella was very heroic.
No, I would agree with that.
But I feel like it was just so, so nice being able to see in a very non heroic way.
She was on her way to greatness, but someone didn't want her to reach that.
So she got rid of that person.
Yeah.
And that person was the Baroness who ended up being her mother and everything.
And so I think that just shows, like, I love that arc.
Like, okay, you're not going to let me be who I am.
Well, I'm just going to get rid of you.
Yeah.
Which I don't think you could do that with a hero or someone.
No, I don't think you could.
No, it kind of has to be a villain.
Yeah.
The way that Cruella was acting was almost like how I compare it to like how the Punisher
is.
The Punisher is not a good guy, but he's not a bad guy either.
So he does bad things to get good results.
And I think that was just the situation Cruella was in.
She did bad things to get a, I wouldn't even say it was a good result.
It's just a result.
Yeah.
Something that benefited her.
That's, yeah, that's actually a really good way to look at it.
Yeah, so I loved it.
This is definitely one of the highlights of this movie.
I just want to say I loved this added, how they did this throughout the movie.
When Estelle is a young girl, when they're moving to London, her mother is just like,
oh, we'll sit around this certain fountain and we'll drink tea.
And the fact that she actually goes to that fountain to speak to her mother after she
has passed away, that was a really sweet idea.
Yeah.
I think that just said it more in stone.
She's human.
Yeah.
Like I said earlier, she's not this puppy killing monster.
No she's not.
Oh jeez.
Yeah.
Anything else you want to say about character development?
No.
I don't think I would.
Alright, like I said, we ended up giving this an 88.
Moving on over to effects.
This is what's going to kill the movie.
We ended up giving this a 71.5.
God damn.
Which isn't bad, but it's not good.
These effects were rough.
How do we go from how the animals look in both the Jungle Book and The Lion King to
how Dalmatians look so animated in Cruella?
Was this movie released in theaters?
Yes it was.
I was almost going to give this a pass because I thought it was like a Disney Plus exclusive.
No this was supposed to be released in theaters.
This was planned in 2018 or 2019.
This was supposed to be released in theaters but then COVID happened and all that fun stuff.
They have no excuse then.
I was going to give them a pass.
The Lady and the Tramp remake?
If they were going to go solely for that look or if that's the budget they were working
with I can understand it a little bit more.
Honestly that actually drops the score for me.
I thought that drops my personal score.
That's fine with me.
I'm dropping it.
With my corrected score the effects dropped down to 69.
They were not good.
There is not at one point in this movie that I thought oh yeah those are totally real Dalmatians.
Oh my god they were so fake.
Disney what the hell?
You have so much money.
How do you f up CGI this bad?
What in the hell were you thinking?
The budget for this movie it says was between 100 and 200 million.
Clearly that budget did not go to the CGI.
No clearly the budget went to the costume.
Costume and makeup.
Which we'll get into here in a second but we need to bash these effects for a minute.
This is really the only effect to really talk about right?
Honestly yeah.
There were some other things.
Spoiler alert if you've listened up to this point.
When she gets pushed off of the cliff at the end she has a parachute skirt and that looks
super rough because she does this weird flip.
That's weird.
Little things like that.
I don't even know.
They CGI the dogs a lot.
How did you feel Horace's dog looked with the eye patch?
Wink?
Yeah Wink.
That was his name.
I really liked Wink but he had some issues.
I think my biggest one or the one that stands out in my mind the most is when they had him
walking through this door or this window and then jumping on the door knob to bring it
down.
I'm like that looks awful.
Yeah.
But it's just like they look super rubbery.
They move like too fast.
Yeah they do.
Like you need to slow them down.
You need to give them a little bit more shadow because I feel like there was some times where
you could tell that these animals did not have a shadow.
No I absolutely agree.
They really could.
It was almost like they took a 3D model of a Dalmatian running and just put it into the
movie and didn't bother putting any lighting or anything on it.
Straight up.
What were they thinking?
I want to know how much of those were real dogs.
If any.
I would be impressed if they said oh we had no dogs on set.
But there's no way that they didn't have any like those dogs.
Yeah.
I don't know if they said like whenever they if they would have said oh yeah we didn't
use any dogs.
I'm just like why?
It worked fine when they did a live action version of 101 Dalmatians.
Those were all real.
I don't understand why you couldn't have done real ones in here.
And you were only working with three.
You weren't working with 101.
Yeah let's see.
I'm looking through this like behind the scenes facts to see if anyone says anything about
the dogs.
Okay so apparently they wouldn't let Cruella use her cigarette holder so as not to promote
smoking to children.
Oh okay.
I mean I guess that makes sense because like even in like Saving Mr. Banks when PL Travers
walks in on Walt Disney smoking he even has to point out no I hate people you know it's
okay I hate people seeing me smoke it's a bad habit.
So at least they pointed out.
Okay the dogs were CGI'd to look nasty.
So those are real dogs.
Like not all of their movements were real but they were real dogs on set but they had
to CGI the faces to make them look mean.
Because the dogs were just like too nice.
I've heard Dalmatians are actually very nice dogs.
I've never had one.
Okay but like honestly I've seen like freaking in like underdog there were dogs that had
to you know like get angry.
Their CGI looked better than this.
Yep so I am fairly certain that that's why they looked so bad that they had they CGI'd
over real dogs.
Okay all right that makes more sense now.
The movement on the other hand like that one was just like meh.
I'm looking to see if they had anything else.
Nope nothing else about the dogs.
So yeah.
I feel like honestly knowing that that makes it worse.
It really does.
Like I could have forgiven it if you had like no dogs on set but the fact that you had dogs.
Like come on.
Like yeah like seriously.
Yeah those those that was honestly the biggest gripe I had with any of the effects.
Yeah same here.
So yeah effects scored a 69.
Moving on over to music.
So we both gave this a 9.
Hell yeah.
This was a killer soundtrack.
Seriously.
Like some of the songs I'm just like oh my god this works so well.
Like when they did these boots were made for walking.
I'm like okay I couldn't have picked a better song.
The whole at the ending they start playing.
I don't forget the name but it's just like pleased to meet you hope you guess my name.
It's like devil something.
Good question.
I don't know.
Caleb.
I'm just kidding.
The only thing that I had well yeah the only I'll say the only thing that I had any like
complaints about was that they did mention the year a lot and I think they said that
was like the early 70s.
Yes yeah.
I feel like they played quite a bit of 80s music.
I might be wrong on that but I know that there was a couple songs that they played where
it was like there was a Queen song that they played.
It was like the I look this up it was the 2011 remastered which I can forgive but they
did have a song this living thing song and they played the 2012 version and then I feel
like there's a couple other songs in there that were from like the early 80s.
I'm actually going to go through and see.
They don't have the years.
That sucks.
Damn I was hoping they would have the years when the when it like came out.
But yeah that was my only complaint but it that's not a big gripe because I like I said
I don't know for sure so I'm not going to be saying like oh well this movie wasn't no
that's not the point.
Does the music work for the movie.
It absolutely did.
Yes absolutely.
Yeah I think the one thing it was missing was was a song that just got stuck in my head.
That's all it was missing.
Yeah I would agree with that.
Damn near perfect soundtrack.
Yes absolutely.
Like I think I probably could have been bumped up to 10 had they done a Cruella song.
I know that they had one at the end with the Florence and the Machines but it's just they
don't have a very you know very very few of their songs I consider catchy.
That's fair.
I would have loved I don't know why but I would have loved if they did Selena Gomez's
rendition of Cruella De Vil that she sang when she was younger.
That would have been cool.
Yeah that would have actually been pretty cool.
That would have been way cool.
Yeah and I know that's kind of like a douchey thing to like think that oh it wasn't catchy
enough.
But I feel like with Maleficent if Maleficent's overall soundtrack had been better I could
have given Maleficent a 10 for the oh shit Once Upon a Dream.
I think that's what it's called.
Yeah I could have given if they would have thrown a song like that into there I could
have given a 10.
So it's not fair.
I think it's just I think it was the artist that just didn't do enough catchiness for
me because I caught myself with Maleficent humming that song a lot and it wasn't like
just the song in general it was like that version of the song.
Yeah fair.
Yeah that was the only thing that was missing but killer freaking soundtrack if you guys
get a chance to go back and listen to it.
Yeah it's amazing.
Anything else music wise you wanted to talk about?
I'm not really I will point this out though the song that is used at the end I don't know
the name but I know the song that they list as the last track is not the last track that
song is not listed it's kind of weird.
Are you talking about the Cruella one or?
No the like the Please to Meet You Hope You Guess My Name.
Like for some reason like everywhere I go it's not listed and I know it was in the movie.
It's like are you sure about that?
I am like a hundred percent sure.
Like okay maybe I'm like at 99 percent sure now.
I think it's just the fact that you're dropping.
Please tell me this I don't even know the name of the song.
Yeah it looks like it is.
Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones that's what it is.
But so yeah yeah so I know it was in the movie so I don't understand why it's not listed.
Weird.
Yeah right.
All right so yeah like I said music we ended up giving a nine.
Moving on over to costumes where this movie absolutely shined.
Yes!
Unsurprisingly we gave this a ten.
Yeah because holy shi-hit.
If you didn't give this a ten I was gonna smack you upside the head.
No I absolutely agree.
This was okay the costume department killed it.
They did.
Every single one of Cruella's outfits oh my gosh.
Slay.
I can't believe I just used that word.
I can't either.
While I was looking through that through that list of facts you wanted to take a guess at
which dress was Emma Stone's favorite?
Was it the one where she was wearing the face paint that said the future?
Was that the trash one?
I don't know if that was.
No it was not.
Okay then no her favorite was the trash one.
That's kind of funny.
Yeah she said that she really liked having the the 40 foot train.
I mean you know what fair enough.
Dude oh my gosh like every just when you think that she couldn't get a more iconic look like
they just freaking up the ante.
They seriously do.
Like they did such a good job.
Like when she first comes out as Cruella because I was just like oh she's gonna release Cruella
so I was expecting her to come out and like some just something as she comes out and like
this just might say more about me but when she comes out and like her freaking leather
outfit I'm just like you have my attention.
I mean I'll fully admit it Emma Stone could be wearing anything and she's still drop dead
gorgeous.
Yeah I'll give you that.
Okay I had it took some getting used to the the black and white haircut but I mean shit
like when she came out and I was all right and then yeah every other outfit that she
she came out and like the trash outfit or the freaking Dalmatian one.
Oh yeah.
Oh my god like she freaking nailed it.
Do the fact that she had a cane also with the Dalmatian one just freaking added to it.
I'm just like that is so ballsy.
I love it.
I wonder if they did the the cane to replace the the cigarette holder.
If they did I'm okay with that.
I am too.
Like I loved the cane.
Yeah.
Like kudos to the freaking costume department.
Yes.
Absolutely.
Like you guys nailed it.
Knocked it right out of the park with this one.
Yeah and like for someone that doesn't appreciate high fashion I think they did a really good
job at just portraying what it's like.
Yeah no no I absolutely agree.
Like what it's like to get ready or make the things.
Yeah.
I think they did a killer job overall like just destroyed it.
Like I cannot say enough good things about the costumes.
Like if you're going to watch this movie for anything watch it for the costumes.
Yes absolutely.
Costumes and makeup.
Yeah I like my personal favorite was the one that you were talking about the the where
she has like the face painted the future on her on it.
Like I I love that like quote unquote mask.
Yeah dude honestly because they were her eyes like super striking in this movie.
Oh they were.
Absolutely.
Did they do something to them.
I don't know.
I don't think they did.
Googling it.
Shit I think those were just her eyes.
Damn.
Add another thing to what makes her truly beautiful just those eyes.
Yeah like it's just I mean.
That is just her eyes.
She like they always stood out when she was Cruella.
Like I don't feel like they stood out as much when she was a Stella.
No I would agree with that.
So it must be something with like the dark and and light hair because her eyes just like
it also could have just been due to the mask because her eyes just like stick out like
crazy.
So I freaking I love it.
I freaking love everything that the costume department did like so good.
It really was.
All right getting into personal grades.
I'll go first.
I had a really good time with this movie enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I was going to.
There are a lot of good aspects to this movie.
There wasn't anything like super great or that you are going to remember too much at
least when it comes to story.
If anything you're going to remember the costumes because like we just went on about so so good.
And the performances between Emma Thompson and Emma Stone were just so good.
Like there was just some class a acting going on between them.
But yeah overall I think I had a good enough time to give this slightly above average.
Didn't quite crack my top 10 like other movies have in the past.
But yeah so I'm going to give this an 84.
Okay very nice.
So I agree with everything that Caleb said.
This was a huge surprise for me as well.
Emma Stone amazing as Cruella.
She was terrific.
Just everyone the whole cast was really good.
The story flowed very well.
There was not one part that I felt it dragged which is really shocking considering this
movie was over two hours.
But yeah no I just had a really really surprising time with this and I'm going to actually give
the same score as you 84.
Nice.
Alright well that concludes this week's breakdown.
So the final Albrows letter grade for Cruella has come to a B.
It's not bad.
Yeah a fairly solid B at that.
It is sitting at 85.56%.
Oh yeah that really is a solid B.
Yeah so it's actually a little bit on the stronger side because our cutoff for a B plus
is 86.
So it's a half percentage off.
Okay.
Almost.4% off.
But yeah let's see compare this to some other movies.
Alright comparing this to our other B movies.
So these are all movies that we have given a B to.
Like we say Cruella is sitting at an 85.56.
That puts it above Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone which we had an 85.43.
Puts it above the Lion King the remake which was at an 85.1.
Also puts it above the Oath which was at an 85.
Was also above Christopher Robin which is at an 84.56.
And it was above Avengers Age of Ultron which is at an 84.37.
Damn.
I know that one stung a bit huh?
A little bit.
But it puts it underneath onward which was at an 85.67.
And then it was also below The Force Awakens which was at an 85.8.
So the margins are very very close.
So the difference between The Force Awakens and Cruella is seriously.3%.
Damn.
Holy shit.
So out of all of our B movies it ranks number 3 out of 20.
Holy shit.
Damn that's awesome.
Yeah that's freaking epic.
I am going to do something fun for a second.
Alright we have ranked 146 movies.
That's how many we've done on this show.
There are a few of those that we didn't do episodes for.
So out of 146 movies Cruella ranks 63.
So out of 145.
I'm trying to remember that the top row doesn't count because that's where we have the movie
percent telling us what the columns are.
Ah okay.
Gotcha.
So yeah we have ranked or we have scored 145 movies and Cruella is sitting at 63.
Holy shit.
So that's not awful.
No that's not awful at all.
That's awesome.
Yeah that's super cool.
It's freaking epic that we've almost done 150 movies.
That's insane.
Right?
Holy shit.
Yeah well I'll have to make a note of that.
Yeah please do.
Just when we finally do score 150 movies.
But yeah so that's where Cruella is sitting and I think it has a pretty decent home.
Agreed.
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