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What is up bros, welcome to the All Bros Podcast.

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I'm Caleb.

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And I am Jonathan.

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And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies, but

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also enjoy a lot of bit of the nerd life.

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This week on the podcast, unfortunately, we do not have anything in Funko Focus just because

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there wasn't anything super good released.

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Or at least not anything that caught our eye.

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So we'll be skipping straight on to 4K Spotlight where we have three movies coming out this

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week.

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And then through the wall we have a couple new trailers and then we will get into our

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headliner where we will be breaking down Venom, Let There Be Carnage.

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Hell yeah.

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Yeah.

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So without further ado, let's get into it.

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Let's do it.

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Alrighty first up in 4k spotlight, we have three new movies coming out like I said, first

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of which I'm going to start with the one that we that I don't recognize old.

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Uh yeah, so that is M Night Shyamalan's newest movie came out a couple months ago.

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I want to say it came out about the same time The Forever Purge came out.

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I heard mixed reviews about it.

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Uh I mean do you know any of the storyline?

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I don't know what this movie is at all.

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So basically I guess it's that if you um well what is it like like a family goes to this

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type of beach and if I guess if they enter the water the kids get older by the minute

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or some shit like that so.

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Oh that's trippy.

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Yeah like one jumps from like five to like 16 and yeah it's.

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So yeah um but so that's getting a regular 4k and blur release as well as a best by steelbook

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and the best by steelbook is actually pretty cool because it's an hourglass.

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Oh that's trippy.

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Yeah it's pretty freaking cool.

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It's like wait does it just look like an hourglass or?

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So like it has so it's so it's so it's a white steelbook with um uh so yeah it's a white

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steelbook with a glass hourglass and then uh you see black on top and then just black

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mist coming down.

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So the top is still full but the bottom is barely starting to fill up.

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Okay I dig it.

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Yeah nice thing it works really well.

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Yeah alright so yeah that's old.

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The next one we got is Scream.

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Yes so yeah so Scream is getting a uh its first ever 4k release and so it's just going

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to be on regular 4k as well as it is going to have a uh 4k steelbook and um it's actually

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not an exclusive it's just you can buy it on amazon best buy i'm sure even target might

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have it um and i love the steelbook so much because it's the classic knife and in the

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reflection of it you see ghost faced ghost face.

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I dig it.

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It's simple but i love it um but i mean the regular 4k is just the classic poster where

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it's like drew barrymore putting her hand over her mouth.

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Nice so yeah.

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Dude i'm a sucker for the like the um the simple um covers.

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I am too yeah same here.

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Like i've kind of found that the even with like the episode arts that i do i've found

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even then i the simpler i go the more i like it there like there are some instances where

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i don't like i'm not necessarily the biggest fan of the our friend artwork but it was super

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hard to think of anything to do.

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No that's i think you did a great job i couldn't i wouldn't have been able to think of anything.

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Yeah but other ones i'm just yeah just keep it simple like yeah it always ends up looking

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nicer yeah like i feel like that's what they've done with a bunch of other logos like i think

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the firefox logo looks super crisp now.

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Oh yeah absolutely and just some like other um logos here and there like just they just

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look better when they're just simple like just taking down to the roots.

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So anyway i appreciate that and i freaking love scream like it's freaking brookers fault

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but we watched all all four of them and it's so good.

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Alright next up the we got snake eyes.

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And this one as well is all of these are hidden steel books which is kind of amazing.

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So this is getting a regular 4k and blur release as well as a steel book which is going to

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be exclusive to best buy.

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Um i don't know the steel book's kind of plain to me well actually wait no i don't even know

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if the steel book is exclusive.

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It's actually not you can find that you can get it anywhere.

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So the only one that is exclusive is the old steel book both scream and snake eyes are not

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exclusive this week.

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But so the steel book's kind of i don't know the steel book is kind of boring in my opinion

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it's just him in full costume with his helmet and then um tokyo in the background.

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That one that one's tough because it is like the title character.

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We haven't seen the movie yet.

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No dude i haven't even seen the other two gi joe movies yet.

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You haven't seen either of them?

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Speaking of that i need to send you those codes because i bought them because walmart

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i don't know if it was like a mistake or whatnot but walmart had the 4ks of those.

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For what was it the first one was only 10 bucks on 4k and then the second one was like

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15 which is not bad for 4ks.

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No that's not bad at all.

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And i told you because when you bought them they actually came with free movie tickets

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to go see snake eyes but i never went and saw it.

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That'd be an interesting one to do the um our movie nights on.

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Which we could finally do now.

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There we go.

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Yeah so i'll i'll look into that and maybe that's that'll be one that we do as well.

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Honestly i should have just sent you the codes and you and braille could have gone and seen

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it.

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Probably we probably wouldn't have.

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Oh okay all right all right okay and i don't feel so bad anymore.

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Yeah cool so yeah those are the uh the 4ks that we're getting this week.

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Moving on to through the wall uh we have two new trailers that we're going to talk about.

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The first one uh i don't know which one i want to talk about more.

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Yeah yeah i do home sweet home alone.

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Which is coming to disney plus on was it disney plus day.

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I think so yeah i think that's when it comes out.

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Yeah so they are i don't even know what this is if it's a reboot remake.

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They've done so many okay so the funny thing about like the reboots i feel in the home

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alone franchise the first two of course you know are the classics you know home alone

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2 is a straight sequel to the first home alone.

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But then number three feels like a reboot which actually i have a soft spot for home

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alone 3.

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I actually really like home alone 3.

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But then you get home alone 4 taking back the house where they're trying to say that

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oh yeah no that's the true home alone 3.

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That totally takes place after the first two when kevin is way too young to be uh like

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he's younger than what he was in the first two.

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Marv does so it's supposed to be marv who is with his wife but yet marv is bald in this

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one he looks more like harry he doesn't have curly hair and then there's not even as many

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kids as they're supposed to be there's only like kevin buzz and uh i forget the sister's

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name but yeah buzz doesn't even look like bugs buzz he's too scrawny oh i hate that

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movie dude i think we can all agree that anything any home alone movie after 2 is complete and

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utter shit see i would say after 3 i don't hate number 3 you are absolutely wrong like

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i said i have a soft spot for home alone 3 i actually really like home alone 3 you have

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a soft spot for garbage then you have a soft spot for kiss my ass that dude that movie

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is so bad when was the last time you watched home alone 3 i tried watching it last year

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okay never mind i was gonna say if it's been many years watch it again and see if your

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mind changes but never mind yeah i attempted to watch it last year i got through the first

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10 minutes before i was like this is just garbage and shut it off but you get young

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scarlett joe hansen oh cool i don't give a shit

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oh okay but you gotta admit it's better than what we got after not by much i disagree but

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that's just me home alone 4 is a piece of absolute shit i hate that movie so much i

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never even bothered with halloween halloween alone oh my gosh dude how are people supposed

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to take our opinion seriously when you hit us with that shit dude okay do you know how

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exciting okay so we're recording this on october 13th so tomorrow thursday night is when halloween

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kills comes out do you know how freaking excited i am for that movie so that's why halloween

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is slipping so cut me some slack wait what well because i accidentally said halloween

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3 instead of or i said halloween 4 instead of home alone 4 oh i thought that's what you

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were i'm tracking i thought that's what you were critiquing me on no i was critiquing

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you on how are people supposed to take us seriously when you think home alone 3 was

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not that bad hey we all have our guilty pleasures we all have movies that everybody else hates

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there's a difference between no there's a difference between a guilty pleasure and liking

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shit see but i but home alone 3 is both a guilty pleasure and i like it oh my gosh

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disagree that you're wrong you know what the next time i'm out there it doesn't matter

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if it's not around christmas we're gonna i'm gonna sit down we're gonna sit down and

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i'm gonna force you through home alone 3 absolutely not no absolutely absolutely yes no i do not

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watch christmas movies anytime after the new year and before thanksgiving or i don't wait

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before yeah yeah after like thanksgiving or christmas time is the the second you're done

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with thanksgiving dinner and i will tie you to your couch to make you watch home alone

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3 in its entirety good luck with that i will i'm a i'm a biter shit well i'm a kicker so

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you're just gonna knock me out yep oh my gosh but okay anyway getting into this trailer

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so home alone 6 this is also i didn't even bother with home alone 5 sorry just wanted

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to find that out yeah so home sweet home alone is basically exactly how the first one goes

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down shocker yeah damn near beat for beat like it's this kid who lives in a big ass

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house with a shit ton of family they go on a trip but instead of going to where are they

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going like paris i think so yeah instead of going to paris they're going to tokyo and

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then he gets left home alone and then some people decide to break into his house decide

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that it's better to not cut their losses and just move on to a different house and they

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get bushwhacked by this kid just archie something i forget his name yeah the only reason that

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i'm going to even like try and watch this movie is because the stunts look like they're

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pretty decent that's fair they do and the fact that in this one they got the actor for

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buzz to play or from the original the original buzz he is playing a police officer and his

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last name is mccallister it's pretty pretty cool yeah devon rat rat ray yeah so there

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are two ways that they go with this either they just they i'm i'm willing to bet it's

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this one i'm willing to bet that they gave him the last name mccallister and they're

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just going to completely ignore it's like just like a fun nod yeah like i'm willing

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i i i wouldn't put a lot of money down but i'd put some money down that that's what's

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going to happen that's just going to be like oh fun nod yeah and they're not going to even

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like address like oh same thing happened to my brother like yeah but then the the other

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way they could is they just freaking run with it so i'm hoping they just run with it and

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go off of the original like i think that'd be a blast that would be cool um i just don't

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know if they would actually do that considering mccully colkin is not going to be in this

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one yeah that sucks i would love to see katherine o'hara come back the mom that would be cool

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if she was like in a little cameo that'd be awesome that'd be so cool that's her name

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right and then katherine o'hara yeah okay yeah i'd be down for that yeah but freaking

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i didn't know this i i didn't remember seeing him in the trailer keenan thompson i didn't

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know he was going to be in this movie i did not see him in yeah okay but yeah so he's

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going to be in it um ellie kemper and rob delaney are playing the robbers this time

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around yeah so they're going for like a husband wife situation and this we got that in hummel

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on four i think what's going to be looks better i think this is going to be a hard sell because

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from the looks of it these people have never committed a crime in their life and they're

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going for a home break in and not going to cut their losses like the second like if i

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was became desperate enough to rob someone's house and finally was just like okay let's

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go for it and got into their house the second i heard any movement i would be done if there's

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a small if there's a hamster in that house i will leave out the window yeah but now

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you see a child in this house if you still think it's a good idea to rob the place i

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mean that just sounds like a no-brainer to me yeah well the only reason that i even bought

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uh marvin harry robbing and like continuing to go after the this kid or with kevin mccallister

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the only reason that i bought that that was that they were already criminals yeah and

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they were like at that point it's just becomes a matter of like oh not wanting to get caught

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yeah and being like oh shit we need to take care of this kid like with them they could

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just be like all right peace out and guess what they're going to go look at other criminals

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they're not even going to look in your general vicinity if you haven't committed a crime

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like that before yeah anyway lots of issues be able yeah just no one will ever be able

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to top the wet sticky bandits absolutely true um all right so one out of ten for this one

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where are you at uh i mean honestly just because we'll be able to see the actor who played

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buzz again and i actually i don't hate the casting of ellie kemper and rob delaney as

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the burgers even though i agree absolutely agree with you that like it's dumb that they

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continue to try to rob this house when they actually know that this kid is like he's fighting

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back he ain't gonna let them steal shit um i'd probably say i'm at like a six i'll watch

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it but like it's not gonna be like oh day one it'll probably be like hey you know i'm

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in the mood for a new christmas movie oh yeah i forgot this came out let's turn it on that's

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actually exactly how like my feelings about it except i'm down at like a four okay it

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would have to be like really really late one not christmas day yeah dude i feel if you

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watch this on like christmas day it'd be like well another christmas in the shitters yeah

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for real but eh i mean it looks like it could be worse it's true it could be home alone

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four yeah hopefully it's not high hopes that it's it's better than what we're thinking

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yeah i'll take it being like home alone three even though caleb hates that movie all right

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um you got anything else to say on on this movie uh no but really cool i want to actually

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know i mean i don't know if anyone will actually like reach out but does anyone else like like

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home alone three like they don't hate it as much as everybody else does i actually really

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want to know if i'm not the i can't be the only one you are on a deserted island my actually

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you know what you know what christina's there with me my sister enjoys it too so that is

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bullshit i want to hear that from her i want to hear that from her there's no way do we

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do we grew up on the home alone movies we watch that shit together all the time cool

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i was raised on the home alone movies too i still think that movie was or the third one

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was shit i promise you she's you know what you know after this we'll call her and she

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will absolutely tell you that she doesn't enjoy home alone three that she doesn't know

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that she does i'm calling shenanigans okay but anyone but anyone else if anyone else

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actually does like home alone three please let me know because i want to know if i am

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slash my sister are the only ones that actually like this movie but anyway moving on that's

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not quite confirmed yet we'll figure that out at the end of this shut up all right anyway

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moving on uh the next trailer that we got is for scream 2021 2022 2022 i thought yeah

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it comes out in january what the hell that's bullshit can't they have just called it scream

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five yeah like come on we all i mean they're going off like the whole how the reboot this

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really isn't a reboot the um how the halloween reboot just called itself halloween again

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yeah so but like i don't know with that like it kind of made sense a little bit with this

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considering they're not ignoring all of the other four movies they should have just called

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it scream five yeah well do we know for sure that they're not ignoring the other ones i

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sure as hell hope not because this is actually one of the rare franchises that i only hate

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one and i don't fully hate it there's only like one movie in the screen franchise that

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i just don't like as much as the others is that three yes sir yep i agree yeah see but

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i don't absolutely hate it yeah it's not like the worst thing i've ever seen but it's it

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has its issues like how does it's definitely the weaker of the four yes definitely um but

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yeah i i'm actually really excited for for this one it looks like so much fun and i've

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grown like i said earlier thanks to brokker i have grown and a major appreciation for

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the scream franchise hell yeah so i am really excited to to go see this this one definitely

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looks like ghost face is not messing around the uh guy that is wearing the mask this time

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or girl i'm not trying to be sexist here sorry um but uh so yeah and this one uh basically

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uh the killer is now after the spawn of the original survivors or anyone sorry not original

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survivors like anyone that was affected in the original movie whether they died or just

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isn't it like anyone related to i thought that they were just going off of like relations

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to the target like is that what it was that's what i thought it might be that it might be

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that i didn't think that these people were related to sydney at all i don't think they're

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related to sydney no um okay maybe i okay apparently i didn't read the the victim list

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right my bad i think i don't know it could it could be that way well just if that's the

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case that's kind of like what they did with scream four a little bit yeah but dude this

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trailer got me like worked up it's so good um it it's going to be very interesting because

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this is going to be the first scream movie not directed by wes craven since he unfortunately

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died a couple years ago rest in peace um so yeah that's gonna it's gonna be very interesting

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to see if uh the director of this which was the director of scream five let's find out

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uh let's see matt bettinelli olfen and tyler gilett uh are also there's two directors interesting

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and it's interesting just don't understand why they couldn't have just called it scream

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five but you know what i'm gonna start bitch i'm gonna stop bitching shit i won't i love

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the tagline though it's always someone you know it's so true yeah i feel like this is

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going to be a good one like almost like they're taking a more serious approach like not saying

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that they didn't take the other movie seriously it's just more i think there were a lot of

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comedic tones and it seems like they're going a little bit more serious they are oh okay

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so it actually says though build as a relaunch of the franchise the film is a direct sequel

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to 2011 scream four nice so so it is not ignoring the other scream movies good i appreciate

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the hell out of that i do too absolutely but that being said i do hope that they follow

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the formula and i hope that that the first interaction that we got with um uh what's

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her face like that whole first interaction with like the the door being locked dude that

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i hope that's like a movie oh like oh like how they do like the stab three stab four

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yeah like i want like stab like 19 or something i love to the opening of scream four is probably

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my favorite one besides scream two just because of that it's so funny oh i hope they do it

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that way i think that'd be fun that would be really fun um but yeah dude that freaking

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intro got me worked up like do i could not imagine having to freaking keep pressing the

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button while you're bleeding to death yeah right so it's like they do like that whole

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weird inner that's it's kind of that that makes me feel like they're like they're going

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to do that same thing where they're opening up with the the scene from a movie because

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of the way that she's just like randomly texting her friend and then like a landline so it's

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like her landline just suddenly like goes off i'm like yeah first off who has a landline

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exactly like scream four could get away with it because it was still in like like i think

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scream four came out in like 2009 2010 but we're in the 2020s i don't know anyone that's

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still has a landline it's it's cell phones all the way now yeah if anything this is for

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movie purposes only so i think we're definitely seeing a clip from like from stab stab 42

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yeah so that yeah that's that's what i feel we're getting with that scene but either way

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it was freaking terrifying because she has these automatic locks on her door and she

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sees like doors unlocked and then she like locks them real fast and then door like unlocked

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i'm like like i was getting worked up because i'm like that shit is real yeah dude it's

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freaking intense yeah and that's exactly why i will never own smart home equipment that's

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fair like yeah that's the most the most that i will do is cameras that's fair yeah other

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than that and i would agree absolutely not other yeah absolutely freaking not like i

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am not playing around with when it comes to like when everyone else is getting their homes

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attacked or being cooked alive by their furnace or whatever i'll be sitting heavy with my

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manual thermometer dial oh dude so i just thought of something um so so at the ending

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of this trailer awesome scene because uh sydney sees ghostface and he says sydney presscott

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it's an honor and like you're just like oh my gosh so cool but like after he said that

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all i can think of is freaking davi in the chamber of secrets harry poto what an honor

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it is i don't know why but that popped into my head after he said that that's hilarious

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i'm excited for this one i'm what oh yeah i'm i'm trying to think of where i'm at i'm

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thinking i'm at a nine dude same like uh they did a great job reviving the halloween franchise

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and i can't wait to see if they can pull it off with the scream franchise as well yeah

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this that's going to be so much freaking fun all right um you got anything else to say

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about scream uh no all righty well with that i say we can get into our headliner where

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we break down venom let there be carnage

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all righty like we said we will be breaking down venom let there be carnage um so if you

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for us to compare this movie to others um so with that if you have not seen this movie

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definitely go check it out um but spoiler alerts ahead rose is about to spoil the entire

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freaking movie for you um so yeah if you listen past this point it's your own damn fault so

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reading with rose everyone yes with two e's with two e's all right in 1996 a young cletus

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cassidy watches helplessly as his love francis barrison is taken away from st estes home

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for unwanted children to rave to the ravencroft institute on the way she uses her sonic scream

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powers to escape and attacks young police officer patrick mulligan he shoots barris

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barrison in the eye and suffers an injury to his ear due to her scream a benoist to

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mulligan who believes he killed her barrison is taken to the facility which is hardened

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against her powers in the present day mulligan now a detective contacts eddie brock to speak

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to cassidy a serial killer who refuses to talk to anyone other than brock following

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their interview a year prior after the visit venom eddie simbio is able to figure out where

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cassidy has hidden the body of the victims which gives brock a huge career boost brock

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is then contacted by his ex-fiance ann wane excuse me who tells him that she is now engaged

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to dr dan lewis much to venom's displeasure cassidy who was found guilty of his crimes

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an earlier sentence to death by lethal injection invites brock over to san quentin state prison

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where cassidy is detained on on death row to attend his execution however venom is

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provoked to attack cassidy via insults towards brock cassidy bites brock's hand ingesting

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a small part of the symbiote back home venom wanting more freedom to eat people has an

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argument with brock and the two end up fighting until the symbiote detaches from his body

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and they go their different ways cassidy's execution fails when a red symbiote emerges

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and blocks the injection it introduces himself as carnage and goes on a violent rampage through

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the prison freeing inmates and killing guards cassidy and carnage then make a deal carnage

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will help cassidy break out barrison from ravencroft and cassidy will help him eliminate

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venom mulligan calls brock and warns him about the situation in ravencroft cassidy frees

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barrison and they travel to their old children's home to burn it down mulligan suspicious of

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brock due to his interactions with cassidy before carnage emerged takes brock to the

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police station brock refuses to answer mulligan's questions and conch and contacts wang as his

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lawyer brock reveals that venom has separated from him and needs the symbiote to fight carnage

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together as venom makes his way through san francisco by hopping from body to body wang

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finds and convinces him to forgive brock she bonds with venom and breaks brock out of the

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police station brock and venom make amends and bond again cassidy takes mulligan hostage

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and barrison captures wang after failing to find brock barrison barrison gives lewis information

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on wang's whereabouts and he gives it to brock cassidy and barrison plan to get married

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at a cathedral where venom appears and fights carnage barrison seemingly kills mulligan

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with her sonic powers venom holds his own against his spawn but he is eventually overpowered

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by carnage and the latter decides to kill wang atop the cathedral venom manages to rescue

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wang in time and provokes barrison to use her powers again her sonic blast causes both

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symbiotes to separate from their hosts and the cathedral collapses and a falling bell

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kills barrison venom saves brock by bonding with him before the impact carnage tries to

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bond with cassidy again but venom devours the symbiote killing it cassidy states that

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he only wanted to be brock's friend but venom bites cassidy's head off while brock venom

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wang and lewis escape a still-living mulligan's eyes flash blue brock and venom decide to

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take a vacation while they ponder their next steps in the mid-credits scene venom tells

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brock about the symbiotes knowledge of other universes but before venom can show him a

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blind a blinding light transports them from their hotel room to another room where they

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watch jay jones jamison reveal spider-man's identity as peter parker on television hell

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yeah um bet you didn't see that coming as the end credits scene because they kept saying

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it was going to be so far down the line those bastards yeah like anytime the um i i knew

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that this movie had something to do with spider-man and like just addressing this this credit

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scene first sorry no no it's fine um yeah i i had a feeling that it had to do with spider-man

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in some way because it was like shortly after the premiere andy circus came on he was just

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like oh we're really hoping that spider-man and venom can interact in the coming years

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i'm like okay so we know spider-man's going to be in this in some in some capacity were

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you at all disappointed by the end credits scene i was a little disappointed okay i'm

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glad i'm not the only one i was expecting more um not really actually that's not true

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it was it wasn't necessarily the reveal it's just kind of what came before that that kind

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of pulled me out of it because what i'm gathering is that something happens to the multiverse

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and venom gets pulled into spider-man's time yeah but it was more the um the implications

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of that scene that that got me bummed out so okay and this is what i'm meaning when

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venom gets transferred into this other world he is in a dingy like just run down like it

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seems like a mexican hope like almost like a motel like he's just like it's just broken

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down and it's really dark gloomy and what have you and he gets and then the flash of

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light and he's suddenly in a bright almost like cheerful type environment and so i'm

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hoping that that doesn't mean that venom is going to have a lighter tone to it because

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i really like the dark tones to these venom movies yeah i would definitely agree with

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you on that one so that's what that's what bummed me out more than the the cameo itself

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i'm just like okay can i wish it was almost like reversed where it was like where it was

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like bright and happy to boom doom and gloom because then it would it would then it wouldn't

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have felt so much like oh they're lightning venoms tones like it'd be like okay they're

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sticking with the dark tones it just has spider-man in it now yeah that's a good way to look

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at it yeah like that's that's honestly the only thing other than that it was just kind

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of an underwhelming it i mean like i get it they didn't want like him and spider-man to

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actually meet he they just wanted us to know that he is aware that spider-man is a thing

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now um yeah but i don't know just kind of wanted more but you know it will come down

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the line yeah like and it's almost if it honestly felt weird like why would venom be obsessed

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with him that's a good point like i almost wish like the way that i would have done this

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was i would have shown spider-man with his mask on and have venom almost like freak out

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like there's another red symbiote oh okay and be like oh shit another red one and then

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then brock being like no no no it's just some kid in a mask and then like and then they

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do like the whole peter parker is spider-man and then have like that's where the obsession

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comes from like oh like venoms like oh it's this kid dressed like a symbiote okay yeah

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see that actually would have been really cool that would have worked very well yeah just

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just like just a little bit of a tweak would have drastically changed the the ending for

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me yeah no i absolutely agree but i think it was just that like the the obsession with

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spider-man came from out of nowhere and just felt yeah so i think that just kind of jacked

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with the the tone but yeah anyway getting into the actual like meat and potatoes of

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this movie um so we ended up giving the story a 71 okay and it wasn't awful like it was

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no it's i'm sorry you go no sorry um no i was gonna say um for a sequel um i actually

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think it is a decent story and for how it does set up the uh fight between uh venom

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and carnage it's just they cram so much into an hour and a half that like you really don't

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get a chance to breathe a lot of this movie like first you know like first you get reintroduced

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to well actually first you get introduced to cletus cassidy and then bear what the hell

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is it barrison and then you get reintroduced to eddie brock then it jumps back to cletus

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uh then it's just it's just like so much to take in i feel in an hour and a half that

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in your opinion do you think this could have benefited for being two hours i think it easily

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could have been that long okay because i mean i don't know like the whole like right out

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00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,320
actually during the whole movie i don't know if you've ever seen the video where it's the

411
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:31,880
audio where he's just like why are we going so f and fast have you ever seen that i i

412
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:38,880
don't think i have so fun yeah like the audio is just like why are we going so f and fast

413
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:43,960
what that's how i felt like most of this movie i'm like andy circus you could have easily

414
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:51,240
made this movie two hours yeah we would have forgiven you yeah you had so much to work

415
00:44:51,240 --> 00:45:00,280
with uh um yeah dude i don't i thought the movie was like two hours but when i checked

416
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:07,960
it was like an hour and a half i'm like geez yeah but yeah it's like an hour 37 yeah it

417
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,800
just you rush through it's so hard this is the same issue i had with the fan four stick

418
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:22,400
yeah but it's like it's so much except that one gave you room to breathe a little bit

419
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,360
true but this it was just like boom boom boom like plot point after plot point after plot

420
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:37,120
point and you're like yeah it's yeah you you don't even get a chance to get whiplash no

421
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:47,880
you yeah you really don't um which is why i was actually surprised that they were able

422
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:54,480
to set up cletus actually pretty decently i feel for it only being an hour and a half

423
00:45:54,480 --> 00:46:01,600
i honestly think they did like barrison not so much like i don't know like her screaming

424
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:08,240
stuff that was cool um but i didn't really care for her that much when it comes to like

425
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:13,680
how eddie and cletus interacted with each other throughout this story and like how cletus

426
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,520
says you know i just wanted a uh you know a friend and you um especially the way that

427
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,640
they he freaking interacted with him when he's on death row like before he attacks him

428
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:33,840
and bites him freaking such a great scene i freaking loved it yeah um but i mean like

429
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:40,440
how did you feel about like uh the story with like the returning characters with uh his

430
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:46,720
old uh girlfriend what's her name i know her last name is mole again no sorry that's the

431
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:57,920
detective uh and and and then um was holy shit what's her uh fiance's name i forget

432
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:06,160
was he in the first one uh yes he was so dan okay see i made the stupid mistake of not

433
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,760
watching the first one before i saw this one because i haven't seen the first one in quite

434
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:18,960
a while and so i totally forgot i remember that uh ann was in the first one but i just

435
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:30,040
for some reason couldn't remember that dan was um but yeah um i thought i don't know

436
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:39,480
i think they did a decent job with the um with that introduction or reintroduction like

437
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:50,000
it didn't feel like it came out of nowhere like it was i mean i've mixed feelings about

438
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:58,160
it that's fair it it did obviously come out of nowhere because venom and eddie were in

439
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:05,000
the middle of something but i do think once they got into it it didn't feel like it was

440
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:12,200
forced like it felt good it felt really good after that it was just maybe the introduction

441
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:19,720
was maybe just a little like like quick well because is aren't they uh like jumping around

442
00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:23,320
from building to building at night and then all of a sudden she calls and she's just like

443
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:34,480
hey meet me tomorrow night i got a big thing to tell you yeah yeah yeah for sure um yeah

444
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:42,880
honestly i didn't have any issues when it came to ann and dan yeah no i i didn't really

445
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:48,440
you were i feel like ann actually had a lot more to do in this movie than she did in the

446
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:54,640
first the only thing that i had a problem with ann is did we really have to turn her into

447
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:02,240
the damsel in distress towards the end like really yeah that was dumb i think they could

448
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:07,760
have done something different with that yeah i hate it when like they can't think of anything

449
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:13,640
else to do when it comes to a reason why the villain needs to have the hero come to this

450
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:20,120
area so they're like oh let's just kidnap the love interest yeah but it's also like

451
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:31,400
what else motivates a villain like enough because you in this like we we know that um

452
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:43,080
that venom and eddie are the the protagonists but they're also very antagonistic people

453
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:51,840
like they're in the end venom is more or less a villain it's true which i think this is

454
00:49:51,840 --> 00:50:00,560
going to be interesting to see how they handle the interaction between spider-man and venom

455
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,200
it's just kind of like who are they going to make the antagonist here are they going

456
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:10,680
to make spider-man the antagonist because that i think that would be a much more interesting

457
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:16,400
dynamic than if they were to make venom the antagonist that would be super interesting

458
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,000
and i would i would be so down for that yeah like that'd be something it's just like make

459
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:34,320
us root for venom over spider-man that would be insane um yeah yeah but just imagine being

460
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,440
a like the parenthesis like hey you're supposed to be rooting for spider-man and kids just

461
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:43,160
like no mom screw spider-man venom is where it's at but he's ripping people's heads off

462
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:59,320
so that's cool uh he needs it to survive mom yeah like come on get with the times mom yeah

463
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:09,200
but i think i think overall that is the only thing that would have motivated those two

464
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:16,920
fair enough i don't think that yeah i don't think anything else like they didn't do it

465
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:24,040
to be heroes they didn't do it for all this this praise they did it to save ann which

466
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:37,000
is a very in a way a selfish need yeah selfish desire so that kind of tracks with the villain

467
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:47,480
way that's true that's true true so i think it it worked was i happy with it no but i

468
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:56,880
think it worked well enough okay i can agree with you on that one um one thing that i had

469
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:04,680
to look up when the movie was freaking over was what happened to mulligan because he went

470
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:15,440
and got like bushwhacked by um oh shit what was her name barrison yeah barrison so barrison

471
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:22,880
was the one that shot or mulligan detective mulligan shot barrison because she was trying

472
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:34,640
to escape and she made him deaf because her powers shriek yeah um so she wanted revenge

473
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:45,880
for her injury so as a wedding gift cletus kidnapped mulligan and basically gave him

474
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:55,200
to to barrison and the barrison went on her way to go kill to kill him there was an altercation

475
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:05,800
and something happened where he was like getting hung but pissed off carnage and carnage attacked

476
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:13,600
her and so mulligan fell and at the very end it was revealed he opens his eyes and he has

477
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:20,000
like bright blue eyes and so i was having a really difficult time trying to figure out

478
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:30,720
what the hell that was about and i actually figured it out what is it so mulligan is actually

479
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:43,560
a character from the comics he was first introduced as the spawn of carnage wow and yeah so he

480
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:52,880
was introduced in 2004 in the venom versus carnage storyline he is the spawn of carnage

481
00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:01,560
and he his character or he his uh he becomes toxin so toxin is the child of of carnage

482
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:08,160
i'll say i didn't even know that i didn't either so i i just learned all this information

483
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:20,760
today oh shit okay um but toxin i think ends up becoming a hero oh um at least from what

484
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:27,560
i from what i read it did say he becomes a very formidable hero and like okay that's

485
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:37,720
interesting yeah so i have a feeling we're going to be seeing mulligan again possibly

486
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:44,160
in the next uh movie i'm cool with that because the guy's actually a really good actor yeah

487
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:57,880
i actually really liked him a lot um but yeah overall though like sticking with story i

488
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:07,440
think they could have taken the time to slow down yes and i think what dropped the story

489
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:23,680
overall is almost very basic desires or um not desires very basic um motivations yes

490
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:30,680
i absolutely agree yeah i think that's that's honestly what what ended up killing it and

491
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:38,960
there was something else story-wise that killed it for me um but it also ties into character

492
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:47,480
development which i feel is these are these two things are kind of tied in together so

493
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:55,000
it's really hard to talk about one without the other um i did not like how venom and

494
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:04,400
eddie separated and then came back together because of an apology that's okay that's fair

495
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:12,560
well why like venom's whole issue with eddie was eddie wasn't giving him like i don't even

496
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:18,360
understand like what was going on between them it was just like maybe eddie wasn't being

497
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:31,400
very appreciative of venom and venom was just kind of wreaking havoc on eddie's life and

498
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,920
it came to blows where they were fighting each other which was absolutely hilarious

499
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:48,040
yeah it was funny just seeing uh eddie getting thrown around the room and trying to like

500
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:57,480
beat the shit out of venom i didn't think i was gonna like i laughed really hard when

501
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:05,040
i first saw the whole like venom breaking eddie's nose joke and i'd seen it a couple

502
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:11,120
times after and so i didn't think i was gonna laugh at it as hard as i did when i saw it

503
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:22,520
again but it was gold it's just as funny yeah um so just like that whole thing like with

504
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:36,360
how bad everything just kind of exploded it was yeah i think that their like coming together

505
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,640
felt odd especially because at the end the way that they were able to defeat carnage

506
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:52,080
was because carnage and cletus weren't symbiotic and i'm like venom and car or eddie incarnate

507
00:57:52,080 --> 00:58:00,760
eddie and venom so many freaking names in this yeah eddie and venom weren't very symbiotic

508
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:09,400
either like i feel like i don't know they should have had a more coming together moment

509
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:17,080
no it's fair i can understand that yeah just something where they realized that they couldn't

510
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:28,920
do different things without the other yeah and realizing that carnage and cletus weren't

511
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:38,960
symbiotic and then realizing to defeat them they needed to become more symbiotic yeah

512
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,920
then you could have gotten like the whole we are venom shit again but if you wanted

513
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:55,800
to but i don't know i i just could have been a little bit better no i think it's just enough

514
00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:06,920
issues moving on over to writing we're sitting at a 74.5 so a little bit higher than the overall

515
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:23,480
story um i don't know what they were trying to do with cletus like i liked him but it

516
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:35,760
was also very weird the way that like he spoke it was very like poetic at times but then

517
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:43,240
very not at others it's like they couldn't quite decide how to write cletus i'm wondering

518
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,680
if they just decided to take like a bunch of like well-known serial killers and just

519
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:52,840
like incorporate them all into them they're just like here we got some bundy we got some

520
00:59:52,840 --> 01:00:03,120
gasey we got some domer put them all together and here's cletus yeah um one thing that i

521
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:09,640
remember when they are fighting in the church scene and cletus is going on like you didn't

522
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,280
share the other side of the story like while beating up eddie and being like you didn't

523
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,440
tell them how young little cletus was getting beat by mama getting beat by granny and then

524
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:24,840
getting beat by daddy and like all this other shit i'm like we didn't even hear the like

525
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:31,160
we didn't hear or see anything regarding eddie's article like we don't know what the hell was

526
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:37,200
in it yeah that's true yeah there was never like a flash of like what the actual article

527
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:41,160
was to where you could like i mean of course since this was a theater only exclusive you

528
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:47,240
wouldn't be able to just like you know like phrase it and actually read it um but i never

529
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:54,440
i don't think i ever like saw any image of the actual article yeah i think that's where

530
01:00:54,440 --> 01:01:02,320
the movie could have been extended maybe do a little bit more of a deep dive on with eddie

531
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:10,840
on cletus's past yeah i think that would have actually been really cool yeah like when they

532
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:18,840
went and burned down the the the house that they were that they met at like that felt

533
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:26,520
very like you understood but it's just like we don't understand the full meaning behind

534
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:33,920
that like we don't fully understand why they wanted to go and and do that yeah no that's

535
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:41,320
true like okay what happened other than you two were just separated like i think we maybe

536
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,320
we got a little bit where cletus was just like oh i got beat up all the time in his

537
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:59,120
little letter but yeah also i don't know if i had to like read transcribe that shit f you

538
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:10,960
that's some no like fu that's bullshit yeah so it's just that kind of came out of nowhere

539
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:21,360
the reason that i feel it scored as high as it did the comedic bits yes like that's honestly

540
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:30,760
what saved it every comedy bit that they came up with between venom and eddie was pretty

541
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:38,800
top-notch um honestly i feel i laughed more in this one than the first same here yeah

542
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:49,960
and i think i i started laughing the most when venom was like leaving and like destroying

543
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:55,440
eddie's motorcycle and then jumped on that chick with the bike and the chick with the

544
01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:02,840
bike is just like screaming and freaking out and venom's like flipping off eddie and yeah

545
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,160
tell us other shit dude i freaking died at the part where um this is more so towards

546
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:14,480
the beginning when uh venom is about to bite um mulligan's head and freaking eddie just

547
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:20,640
like brings them both into the bathroom you see the lady in the next stall she's just

548
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:25,600
like trying to like i wasn't her like uh like she tries to like look under but she's not

549
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:34,640
able to really see anything yeah dude i freaking love i always thought people could hear like

550
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,960
i i thought like when when venom came out like that i always i thought people could

551
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:49,040
hear him i thought so too but i guess not yeah that's that's wow apparently he can only

552
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:56,960
be heard by other people when he's like fully out yeah that's very interesting but i freaking

553
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:07,600
love that that scene too when he's just telling eddie get your tiny little hands off me and

554
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:14,320
i thought there was like a really sweet moment when when ann revealed that she was engaged to

555
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:24,240
dan and venom was like basically explaining to to eddie he's like hey i can fix all these physical

556
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:34,880
injuries i can't fix what's on the inside yeah that was uh like he's like heartbroken like trying

557
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:42,720
to crash into a a car on his bike and venom's telling him like yo slow down and like and he's

558
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:49,360
just like why i'm basically invincible because you can fix anything yeah and then venom takes

559
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:56,240
control steers him on the side of the road and he's just like listen like you're not okay and you

560
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:03,920
need to take basically being super mature and healthy yeah like like you said he basically

561
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:09,600
says i can fix anything that breaks on you except for your heart yeah he's just like you're you're

562
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:15,840
on your own when it comes to that like i'm super sad about it too but you kind of got to move on

563
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:22,720
bro yeah and he calls him an amoeba and he's just like the only reason i'm gonna let that slide is

564
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:37,280
because i know or is because we're hurting i'm just like bro oh man um i'm sorry no no i was

565
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,280
just saying i loved it um how did you feel about the writing for uh shriek

566
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:50,800
honestly indifferent i didn't care for shriek one way or the other i honestly i've i honestly

567
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:58,640
would have just taken her out of this movie and just had it be just cletus and uh um eddie i know

568
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:05,520
that you know to make cletus's story worse and more heartbreaking you had to have it be his love

569
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:11,920
interest is on the brink of dying and or he's gonna be executed should be executed and uh

570
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,000
he's gonna be executed shit like that well wait no i'm sorry he was the one that was gonna be

571
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:22,160
executed yeah but like he you know him being ripped away from her at such a young age and

572
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:28,160
all that stuff but like i don't know like honestly i feel like you could have like maybe tweaked it a

573
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:32,560
little bit and taken shriek out and like the story really wouldn't have been affected that much

574
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:49,440
yeah i agree um yeah i i think it was just odd the relationship like i almost would have preferred

575
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:58,400
but i mean i don't know how else carnage would have be or venom would have beat carnage

576
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:05,520
carnage but i almost would have preferred if carnage was fully controlled by cletus

577
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:16,320
and then maybe began to grow a sentience later i don't see i kind of liked that fact that you

578
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:23,280
could tell a carnage was definitely the one that was in control between the two of them um and

579
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:30,880
freaking they did such a great job making carnage terrifying in this one because when shriek first

580
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:36,720
slits out that scream and carnage like comes back into his normal form and she he's just like if she

581
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:44,640
does that one more time she's dead or like i rip her head off i'm like oh shit yeah i was like damn

582
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:52,640
they made carnage terrifying in this one like kudos to you andy circus on the writing or whoever

583
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:59,840
and yeah whatever carnage was written very very well when it came to the scariness factor in this

584
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:10,800
film well funny enough it was actually tom hardy and a kelly marcel who wrote this damn tom hardy

585
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,440
is there anything you can't do dude like he did when it came to the relationship between

586
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:23,600
eddie and venom i think the writing was very good i just didn't like how they separated

587
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:29,840
and then it came back together with like kind of a half-assed apology no i i can absolutely

588
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:35,920
agree with you if if you're gonna explore the idea that venom decides to actually leave eddie

589
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:42,880
brock's body you gotta have a damn good reason and a very good execution for that reason of why

590
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:51,200
they decide to come back together yeah like i i think the idea was solid was super solid it's

591
01:08:51,200 --> 01:09:01,600
just the execution of it wasn't that solid no that's fair that's fair so i mean it's hard to get

592
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:10,880
upset but i think he definitely tried and i think he it definitely was better than the overall story

593
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:21,440
so i think it's 74.5 is is pretty fair yeah i absolutely agree um moving on over to acting

594
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:30,560
we're actually sitting at an 83 once again tom hardy is great as eddie brock and as the voice

595
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:38,560
of venom shocker yeah honestly the person who dropped it for me was woody

596
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:47,840
actually well that's not true woody dropped it a little bit everyone else dropped it more

597
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:55,360
see that's actually um like definitely tom hardy is my favorite in this movie shocker because he's

598
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:01,520
really good as eddie brock and venom but i don't know what they were going with for cletus i

599
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:07,040
actually really liked and woody harrelson does such a good job at playing like like a like the

600
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:14,320
serial killer kind of type he does it very well um so i actually did not have a lot of problems

601
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:19,200
with uh woody harrelson he definitely brought the acting score out for it the biggest character

602
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:24,080
that dropped it for me and i know i already brought her up was actually shriek um

603
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:31,360
um i don't know just i was not the biggest fan of the character and the at maybe just it's the

604
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:39,120
way the character is written the actress is not a bad actress um just i don't know just was not

605
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:49,280
the biggest fan of this character yeah um also i think shriek is i'm gonna look it up

606
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:55,600
okay okay i thought she was supposed to be a symbiote but she's not so that's what i thought

607
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:04,560
too yeah right like oh wait what's that yellow it was the yellow uh symbiote in the first one that was

608
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:17,040
that's not the same actor is it no it's it's not oh okay her scream that's not the same actor

609
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:26,000
scream that's what it was yeah so the yellow symbiote in the first one was scream so shriek

610
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:38,480
is a completely different character got it that's confusing just a wee bit um but yeah so she was

611
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:47,760
played by naomi harris let's see where i've seen her in other things i know i feel like i have too

612
01:11:47,760 --> 01:12:02,880
i just don't know what oh she played um oh shit what's her name she was tiya dalma

613
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:15,760
in the pirates of the caribbean oh calypso shriek yeah okay i know who you're talking about

614
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:25,040
what else has she done that's the only thing i write i would recognize her from that's fair

615
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:34,720
that's fair oh yeah yeah tiya dalma yeah or i think davy jones called her calypso

616
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:42,000
yeah i think you're right i need to watch those movies again i still haven't even seen the fifth

617
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:49,360
one actually i haven't even seen the fourth or fifth one i'm so behind dude i know it's sad

618
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:55,120
yeah but um yeah she was what dropped it for me i think she was just

619
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:06,400
kind of an unnecessary character at times yeah i agree i think that that's something else i feel

620
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:15,040
like uh they could have improved on maybe made us care for her a bit more like shown the relationship

621
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:22,560
between her and cletus like blossoming more or just giving us a better understanding as to why

622
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:32,160
we should care about her yes oh absolutely i agree so yeah everyone else was just kind of like

623
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:39,360
eh whatever but eddie and cletus were definitely or tom hardy and witty harrelson were definitely

624
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:50,960
the the high marks of this movie yes um i actually boosted my acting score or i was going to until i

625
01:13:50,960 --> 01:14:01,840
realized i'm actually exactly where i want to be um i boosted or i was going to boost because of

626
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:12,880
how well witty harrelson did the voice of carnage yeah oh so so good it was so good it was so

627
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:20,320
different too oh yeah it is like tom hardy is great as the voice of venom but like

628
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:27,040
i don't know why like the way that witty harrelson did the voice of carnage it's kind of like soothing

629
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,160
but in like the worst way possible just because carnage is the way that he is

630
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:44,800
yeah like i freaking love it i think my my issue with because with tom hardy i'm barely i'm barely

631
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:52,240
in the 90s if at all with him at like alone and the issue that or the reason that he's

632
01:14:52,240 --> 01:15:01,200
down or that brings it down is because of his venom voice it's too like sometimes like i i'm

633
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:06,160
gonna need to watch this movie again when it comes out on blu-ray with subtitles with yeah

634
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:12,560
i had to do the same thing with the first one because i know i missed i missed some stuff that

635
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:18,240
venom said i already know it yep i did too i was just like what the hell did he just say

636
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,920
it's just because it feels like he takes water in his mouth and just kind of like

637
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,880
like it's almost sounds wet the way that he talks

638
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:37,760
that's straight up what it sounds like yeah and then with carnage he he adds some like

639
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:46,720
gruffness to his voice but you're right it there is a soothing tone to it yeah it is i love it

640
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:58,160
it is i love it love it yeah and so it was just so wildly different than the way that woody harrelson

641
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:09,440
talks or portrayed cletus yeah and i think the um like fun fact for everyone and this is just

642
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:15,440
something that i learned uh woody harrelson actually was trying to get andy circus to do

643
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:23,200
the voice of carnage and just saying like oh no one's gonna like realize it's me or no one would

644
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:30,880
if and andy circus like pushed for him to do the voice himself see i think that's awesome and i

645
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:36,160
like that because you know tom hardy does the voice for his symbiote and i love that andy circus

646
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,960
pushed for woody harrelson to do the voice for his yeah and he just he freaking knocked it out

647
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:49,360
of the park it was so good absolutely oh i loved it yeah so let's

648
01:16:52,160 --> 01:17:00,880
all right let's do top four but i'm going to say we can venom and carnage can be their own characters

649
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:06,960
if you so choose for them to be okay then yeah you just made this easy for my top four then

650
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:19,920
um okay what's yours uh number one is eddie brock okay two two is carnage

651
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,400
okay three is cletus cassidy and actually four mine too

652
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:35,840
it's yeah wait like it's the exact same order or your number four is venom nope exactly the same

653
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:42,480
name hell yeah that doesn't happen very often no but that's freaking awesome

654
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:49,360
just yeah the fact that you can't understand venom it seems like for half the lines that he says

655
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:56,320
that's what pushes him down i will say this it wasn't as bad as the first one that is true yeah

656
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:02,720
that that is very true you can definitely tell that tom hardy has learned how to make his uh like his

657
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:09,200
words come across as more clear when doing the venom voice yeah i think honestly the only time that

658
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,520
to i don't like tom hardy and his acting is when he's doing a voice

659
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,120
fair like because when he's just like eddie brock he's great

660
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:27,680
oh yeah like i didn't like his capone because he was doing a voice the entire freaking time

661
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:36,560
i didn't care for his bane because his bane was super hard to understand i i actually do disagree

662
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:42,720
with you on that one i love tom hardy's bane i mean with subtitles he's a lot better

663
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,640
okay you know what you're not wrong

664
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:58,240
um yeah and then same with venom like his venom is like super good but really hard to understand

665
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:06,160
so yeah i think 83 is is more than fair for this movie absolutely

666
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:14,240
moving on over to character development which we've already discussed a little bit this is at a 68.5

667
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:22,800
that's fair um i know uh kayla both kayla and i have a hard time when it comes to because you

668
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,200
know you're thinking with the character development oh do i want it to be eddie brock or venom that

669
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,840
i'm focusing on but you kind of can't do the character development without both of them

670
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:39,040
because the story is really about them like dealing with how they are affected by each other like how

671
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:44,880
venom is kind of like messed up eddie's life like you know he lost the he lost the love of his life

672
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:51,920
he's not doing that great as a reporter until the whole cleat uh he gets everything that he needs

673
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:58,720
to know from cletus and how venom is able to figure out where he hid the bodies um i know it's

674
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:04,640
it's of it's interesting to see how they uh what's the word

675
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:09,440
like how they need each other but they also don't need each other but like kayla pointed out earlier

676
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:18,400
when they do split and then come back together it just doesn't feel what's the word earned

677
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:26,560
um because the like you said the apology is so half-assed um that that really drags down the

678
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:36,560
character development yeah it's just like why i don't know just sincerity is the big deal it's

679
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:45,600
like they didn't come together because they they needed to well i mean yeah they didn't really come

680
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:51,680
together because they needed to like venom could have kept jumping from person to person

681
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:59,280
if he wanted that's yeah that's very true but he accepted some half-assed apology so he doesn't

682
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:18,800
have to eat people yeah like i almost would have preferred um like what if uh eddie started like

683
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:26,720
suffering from like an illness of some sort or maybe his injuries started like coming back again

684
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:37,840
slowly oh okay and then like that kind of made him realize what that he needed venom and then

685
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:44,000
the then then that would have made the like i have no issues with the apology it's just

686
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:52,480
the like i have no issues with the apology it's just how half-assed the apology was yes yeah so

687
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:59,680
i think it would have been better for us to see vet or eddie in a more vulnerable state

688
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:10,560
and then giving that apology and being like listen like i understand what you've been doing for me all

689
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:20,880
this time i'm in a really bad place right now like physically i need you you cannot keep feeding off

690
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:32,240
these people that you claim to have a love for and just kind of going that route like kind of seeing

691
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:40,960
like why they need to work together like giving us kind of like a walkthrough of like oh this is why

692
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:50,320
we need to be together yeah like just kind of play it up like a romance like it would have worked

693
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:59,600
very well yeah like i think it would have but unfortunately we got what we got yeah

694
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:08,320
so yeah 68.5 uh sitting for or score for character development

695
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:15,360
um don't really have anything else to add to that that was my biggest issue with it and it honestly

696
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:23,200
dropped it just a lot no i would absolutely agree with you yeah i think ultimately it's just didn't

697
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:34,800
feel like either of them had learned a lesson yes yeah absolutely all right next up we got effects

698
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:47,760
which we are sitting at a 79.5 it's not it's not bad um i loved the way they made carnage look in

699
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:59,040
this movie oh my god i loved the character design um i will admit the animation i feel for venom and

700
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:07,760
carnage or the cgi was better than the first one um really yeah i don't know to me like it

701
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:14,640
venom seemed like he was more so there this time whereas in the first one like there were some parts

702
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:21,600
for me that i'm just like it's a little too cgi for me um but in this one i really never saw any

703
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,840
there were really never any points that i'm just like oh no that doesn't look like venom or carnage

704
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:38,400
is really there oh i actually yeah which is interesting because we're only one point away

705
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:45,760
from each other yeah that is interesting i think overall when it came to the action sequences the

706
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:55,680
effects looked phenomenal okay what got me were the non-action sequences um so there was a point

707
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:06,560
i think in the in the beginning when venom is talking to eddie and his mouth almost seemed like

708
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:15,360
it was being like stop motion eddies or venoms venoms i don't like it was with this and so oh

709
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:23,920
and then when he was talking to the damn uh like the purse snatcher uh okay there was just times

710
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:31,360
where his mouth just it wasn't moving right like i couldn't tell you what was wrong with it it was

711
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:38,800
just very teeth and i think i think maybe that was it i think there was just a lot of teeth

712
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:44,800
and i have no problems with venom and his teeth like that's just kind of like a staple of his

713
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:55,360
character it's just i feel like his mouth covered more of his teeth in the in the first and so when

714
01:25:55,360 --> 01:26:04,240
he talked it almost felt like he can make all the noises yeah i mean that's fair i mean i think um

715
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:11,440
for me at least i feel like uh when venom like just comes out of the back of eddie at least in

716
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:16,800
this one and and i'm not trying to like say like oh uh like i'm not trying to compare this movie as

717
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:24,480
much as to the first one but there were parts in the first one that i felt that uh when he came out

718
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:30,640
of his back it didn't look right whereas in this one for the most part it did yeah i all agree with

719
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:39,760
you on that it looked a lot better in this one than than the other yeah okay good i'm glad we're in

720
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:46,800
agreeance with that yeah i honestly for me it was just the the talking they got me that's fair i'm

721
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,920
gonna have to definitely go back and look at that yeah because i think you're right carnage looked

722
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:58,240
really good when he was speaking it was just venom it was just like all teeth and so it was like

723
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:09,840
you shouldn't be able to make some noises yeah i i get you um but overall i think the effects were

724
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:17,680
pretty good some issues here and there minor gripes um one big one that i've i freaking

725
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:29,840
docked for a very green screen beach yes oh my i don't know if that was i would be very surprised

726
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:38,720
if someone were to say that was a real beach yeah if it looked very very green screen

727
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:50,000
um but i didn't dock too bad for that one is just like my issues throughout the movie

728
01:27:51,680 --> 01:28:02,880
all right next up we got music so with this there wasn't a lot of there wasn't like a a soundtrack

729
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:09,440
that's just like oh they played this pop song in this pop song it was yeah it was very reliant on

730
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:18,800
the movie scores but the movie scores were incredible yes like um honestly the only like

731
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:28,480
actual like uh song that stuck out besides the oh like um actual like original soundtrack um is the

732
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:34,080
song towards at the end credits uh i think it's called last one standing which is actually a

733
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:38,880
pretty good song that's playing like over the credits when i was saying it was in it um but

734
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:48,160
yeah like caleb said the score gets you hyped for especially when it is actually like venom versus

735
01:28:48,160 --> 01:29:01,120
carnage oh my gosh incredible incredible um okay oh sorry no you go um i'm gonna actually work this

736
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:11,920
in with um music um did your theater have a decent sound system not really um i don't know maybe it's

737
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:17,360
just cinemark had it up a little too uh but when the bell kept constantly going off like i was

738
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:22,240
actually almost ready to cover my ears because like it was actually like freaking hurting oh

739
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:27,280
my gosh dude that was one thing that i was thinking i'm like i'm so glad i did not see this in imax

740
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:35,760
yes yeah i'm glad i didn't see this in xd because oh my gosh i would have been freaking ow

741
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:43,920
oh my gosh that was one thing like anytime carnage roared i was just like bloody hell

742
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:53,040
oh seriously though it was so freaking loud it's like carnage you're at a you're at a 15 i'm gonna

743
01:29:53,040 --> 01:30:00,880
need you about about a three yeah no shit or at least a seven like yeah but that's saying a lot

744
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:08,000
because my my theater's i went to an amc because i don't have cinemarks here or at least i don't

745
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:17,120
think i do the nearest one is like a hundred miles away bloody hell yeah no shit but i was just sitting

746
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:24,800
there and i'm like this is loud okay good i'm glad i'm not the only one that almost went deaf

747
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:32,000
because the damn bell and carnage is roars yeah like anytime carnage roared i'm just like shit

748
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:38,560
like it almost pulled me out of the movie how much i was just like this is a lot

749
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:49,920
or just thinking like i would be completely deaf if i saw this in in imax dude so when carnage

750
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:55,040
finally ripped to the actual like bell out of it or whatever it's called from i'm like thank you i

751
01:30:55,040 --> 01:31:02,960
i seriously just wanted to shout out thank you yeah then oh my god and then shriek too

752
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:11,360
oh my hell i thought yeah that was pretty bad too i still think the bell annoyed me more

753
01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:16,480
i thought shriek would annoy me the most but no that bell like that was

754
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:28,160
ear deafening that really pissed me off yeah but honestly it's hard it was hard for like that is

755
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:34,160
definitely something that i docked for but like that those extra sound effects because we can

756
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:46,320
honestly change music to audio and probably be fine okay it's just it was loud yeah like oh my

757
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:54,240
gosh i can't remember the last time i saw a movie tour like i had to be okay can we turn it down a

758
01:31:54,240 --> 01:32:00,880
little bit i hate to sound like that kind of person but this is a little too much for my ears right

759
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:08,720
now yeah and like i wasn't even like sitting off to the side by one of the speakers i was in the middle

760
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:20,560
oh dude i was too like the shit oh that would have sucked dude straight up

761
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:31,680
but anyway yeah music uh we gave an eight two not bad yeah definitely not bad i think what it was

762
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:39,920
really lacking was just something that gets stuck in your head and whoever is the audio sampler

763
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:48,160
just dial it down a couple notches please yeah please we don't all want to go deaf

764
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,440
yeah which i'm assuming he was

765
01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:59,760
it's almost like i i wonder just with shit like that did the roars or like those noises get like

766
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:06,400
progressively louder because like how funny would that be it's just like the guy listening to this

767
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:10,960
all day just getting more and more deaf so he's just like i just need to be a little higher

768
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:16,560
and he just keeps doing that little higher a little higher just imagine yeah like the like head of this

769
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:22,800
soundboard is just like like larry turn it down louder okay

770
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:33,440
oh sorry i had a 10 but i can crank it up to a 15 you got it charles yeah

771
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:43,520
all right next up we got costumes um we are going to include even though we did discuss it a little

772
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:49,200
bit in effects we are going to be including how venom looked and how carnage looked but we're just

773
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:56,160
going to be talking about the character model it's not necessarily how they moved or whatever yes

774
01:33:57,440 --> 01:34:04,000
if we're talking about like just like regular costumes um overall super pretty good uh eddie's

775
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:09,760
looked great but you know like classic eddie um i don't know why and i know he's supposed to look

776
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:16,720
like an asshole but the the type of clothes that uh cletus stole after he got out of prison

777
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:27,360
i don't know like i don't really like him i i was all right with it um just because of how eccentric

778
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:37,920
eccentric he is all right fair yeah so i think that's the only reason i was able to do that

779
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:46,640
yeah so i think that's the only reason i was able to forgive how he looked um costume wise so i i dug

780
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:52,640
it but i think overall like if we would have just been doing them i probably would have ended up

781
01:34:52,640 --> 01:35:00,160
sitting at like a seven yeah i can i can definitely agree with you on that one like very very average

782
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:09,600
costumes but just a little bit of a boost because of uh cletus yeah but what brought it up to an

783
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:19,600
eight for me was the design of of venom and carnage carnage in particular yes um i'm sorry

784
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:24,560
i gotta fully admit i actually think the design of carnage is better than the design of venom

785
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:30,960
the design of venom is great don't get me wrong but i love the design of carnage i'll give you that

786
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:37,120
it's so good and i don't really know a lot about like i don't really know a lot about the venom

787
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:43,280
universe so uh literally everything that is said about carnage in this movie is really all that i

788
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:49,120
know about carnage i've never really dived into um the venom universe which i really need to

789
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:57,520
because these characters are very very interesting um but i mean does this design um farewell to

790
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:07,440
like the original comic book design it actually honestly followed a lot closer to the the um

791
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:18,400
oh shit what's that word reference material is that the right word term i think so yeah okay it

792
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:25,760
followed the comics pretty spot on what hell yeah the one thing that i was really concerned about

793
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:36,880
was the mixture of the of like having another symbiote fight and having it be so like so closely

794
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:47,360
i i have a loss of words right now it's freaking late um yeah it's almost mid it is actually past

795
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:55,040
midnight where caleb is right now yeah um poor guy no what i was what i was trying to say it's um

796
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:00,480
kind of hard to tell what's going on like that's what i was concerned about another symbiote fight

797
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:08,480
where it's hard to tell what was going on but i think they did a really good job at keeping carnage

798
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:16,480
all of his color bright enough that it didn't mesh too hard when it came to

799
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:23,840
venom i absolutely agree he was the perfect amount of red without being too bright red

800
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:30,000
yeah and then something else that i thought that they missed because in all the promotional images

801
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:38,720
like even the ones i'm i'm looking at you can't quite see the um the black that well

802
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:45,520
okay that's not true i guess whatever promotional images i was looking at i thought he was just gonna

803
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:54,960
be like pure red but the fact that he had some black in his face like especially like going up

804
01:37:54,960 --> 01:38:04,320
around the eyes and on on the mouth um i thought that that looked really really good

805
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:10,560
because that's something like how carnage looks like he has the black around his eyes and the black

806
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:17,760
around his mouth almost like a a grin and then like i said around the eyes and then it his

807
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:24,800
the red on his face kind of comes up and around all of that and so i thought that that they

808
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:31,840
were going to miss that part of the character but luckily they didn't and it ended up working in

809
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:40,960
incredibly well and i feel like they were able to make um carnage seem

810
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:49,680
very different from from venom like anytime venom like stretches out it is very

811
01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:58,720
fluid looking but whenever venom stretched out or whenever he made like a hard

812
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:09,200
construct it was very veiny and like flesh looking yes which i think also in the fight distinguished

813
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:19,200
the two yes yeah i absolutely agree dude i can't freaking wait like sorry i just gotta add this i

814
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,360
can't freaking wait for the steelbook for this movie to go up on pre-order because they are

815
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:27,840
doing just like the first one was where it was just like the first one was like the first one

816
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:33,680
was where it was just like venoms venom on the front like opening his mouth but the second one

817
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:39,280
is just freaking venom and carnage on the front about to go at each other and it looks so good

818
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:49,600
yeah this is it's gonna be sick um yeah i'm looking at some of the other pictures

819
01:39:49,600 --> 01:40:03,120
that they have on imdb and a lot of the the images of carnage don't accurately depict how he looks

820
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:09,280
yeah honestly it seems like they haven't released a lot of like actual like pictures from the movie

821
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:15,200
at least from what i've seen most of these are like fan made yeah like the one where it's like

822
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:22,400
half and half like venom and then the other half is is carnage that's not a super accurate depiction

823
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:31,760
of how carnage looks and i yeah and i i know that they did that because if they would have

824
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:39,600
kept true to the color scheme it would have just looked like it was like all venom no that that's

825
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:48,080
that's very true but yeah i think overall they they freaking killed it with with venoms design

826
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:58,480
absolutely looks so good yeah dude i gotta send you this steelbook after we record the way like

827
01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:04,000
it matches the first one steelbook so well and oh i can't wait to pre-order this

828
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:12,160
sorry is that point that out no you're good yeah so costumes uh we also gave an eight

829
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:18,000
um i think everyone else is like we said everyone else's costumes were pretty average

830
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:27,840
but the standouts were were venom and carnage yes absolutely all right last up we got our own

831
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:37,360
personal grade so rose you want to take this one i would love to um overall it's it's a pretty uh

832
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:45,600
it's a you know i'm gonna say it's a pretty solid sequel um i enjoyed it just as much as the first

833
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:53,440
one i can't decide which one i like more i like them both quite a bit um tom hardy once again is

834
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:59,680
is wonderfully cast as eddie brock slash venom and woody harrelson definitely comes to play in

835
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:10,000
this one as a cletus cassidy and and as well as a carnage um and uh even though you don't get a

836
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:15,920
lot of fighting between venom and carnage when they do fight it's spectacular it's everything you

837
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:29,440
want it to be um just yeah i i had a good time uh with the sequel um so i'm gonna go 75 75 not bad

838
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:38,640
um i'm actually a little bit higher um i'm gonna i'm sitting at an 82 i had a really

839
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:45,360
good time with this movie um i loved seeing venom back on the screen i loved that we got to see him

840
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:55,440
more and not just hear him in eddie's head yes that was awesome um yeah i appreciated that i

841
01:42:55,440 --> 01:43:02,400
think the humor was on point overall i feel like the movie itself was pretty spot on with

842
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:10,080
with the with the first one like it kept the same tones it it just kept everything of the

843
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:16,240
of the first and no i agree i think that that's something you want in a movie i don't think you

844
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:22,320
want any at least when it comes to like these i think that when we think about a movie and its

845
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:30,000
sequel this is going to be one that we we think of because of like this is how you want it to be

846
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:34,000
you don't want it to be like so much better than the first because the people view the first is

847
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:40,000
like shit but then you don't want it worse than the first because you don't want it to be like

848
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:44,000
the first because and they're like eh you don't need to watch the second one like you want it

849
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:52,160
just in line and i think they nailed it yeah i absolutely agree yeah so like i said i'm sitting

850
01:43:52,160 --> 01:44:05,680
at an 82 um which averages us out to an 78.5 it's not bad yeah not bad at all um so the final

851
01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:10,240
albrose letter grade for venom let there be carnage is

852
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:27,600
a c plus yes oh that is perfect for this movie i absolutely agree um it is actually slightly

853
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:35,520
it is higher than the original venom um in our system honestly i feel like what really puts it

854
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:43,840
over for it is i feel carnage is definitely a better villain than riot agreed um it's not much

855
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:56,160
of a difference though so the original venom has a as a c okay um but this movie scored a 78.12

856
01:44:56,160 --> 01:45:03,520
one two percent whereas venom scored a

857
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:16,640
75.22 percent so it was a three point difference or three percentage difference that's not bad

858
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:25,360
yeah so i think that is more than fair i think yeah if you're comparing the two those three

859
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:32,400
three percentage points could be attributed to the difference between riot and carnage yeah

860
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:46,480
so i'm i'm extremely happy with with this score um let's see with all of our other c plus movies

861
01:45:46,480 --> 01:46:00,240
uh which we have 21 of them venom let there be carnage ranks number 12 okay that's not bad

862
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:15,120
not bad yeah definitely not bad um so 78.12 that puts venom let there be carnage above tag

863
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:24,480
which is at a 77.9 it is above the babysitter killer queen which is at a 77.8

864
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:38,800
it is above wonder woman 1984 which is at a 77.7 um it is also above spider-man which was at a 77.49

865
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:47,120
okay and then it was also above aquaman which was sitting at a 77.3

866
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,600
yeah i'm sorry i'll fully admit i enjoyed this more than aquaman

867
01:46:51,600 --> 01:47:01,760
yeah for sure um going the other direction venom let there be carnage is below jumanji the next level

868
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:14,480
which was at a 70 78.25 okay it's also below tenacious d and the pick of destiny which is at a 78.28

869
01:47:14,480 --> 01:47:30,960
is also below godzilla versus kong which we had at a 78.56 okay it is below the new mutants which

870
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:41,920
is at a 78.77 i actually forgot that movie was that high yeah it's not too much higher it's a

871
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:53,520
0.6 difference okay um and then it was also below army of the dead which was at a 78.87

872
01:47:55,040 --> 01:48:04,720
all right yeah so i think it has a decent home yeah i agree absolutely i'm kind of curious though

873
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:25,840
it's just for shits and giggles where it ranks with everything so it is ranked 110 out of 147 movies

874
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:36,240
wow okay i'll take it i like it that's a good placement and i i know that sounds like it's low

875
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:45,600
like to our listeners i know that sounds low but we haven't graded a ton of movies that are

876
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:57,760
super bad this is true like no no joke when it comes to anything below a c- we've only scored

877
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:14,560
nine movies really yeah that's everything below a c- wow and then c- movies we've only had seven

878
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:24,160
movies we've only had six c- movies we've had 13

879
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:38,800
c-plus movies we've had 21 okay b- movies we have had 17

880
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:52,400
b- movies we've had 21 so apparent so we've been sitting at c- pluses and b's b- plus movies

881
01:49:52,400 --> 01:50:08,000
plus movies we're at 35 oh nope 36 damn yeah soul or not soul a- movies we are at

882
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:22,000
uh damn what the hell what deuce we have 21 a- movies and three a- movies

883
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:35,200
okay that's not bad yeah so let's just see the the most exclusive

884
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:46,400
grade to get is is actually hit an f that is the most exclusive grade

885
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:56,240
and that's 50 shades right uh nope we can be heroes oh yeah 50 shades got a d yeah 50 or d

886
01:50:56,240 --> 01:51:05,520
minus wow still though didn't fail i'm like we can be heroes which god i hate that movie yeah um we

887
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:13,200
have four d-plus movies two d- movies and then two d- movies wait what's the other d-

888
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:27,120
what's the other d- um that rocky road freedom oh yeah yeah so

889
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:35,200
anyway now that we've just kind of gone through our whole catalog

890
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:42,000
like i think that just shows that we don't we don't shit on movies that's true no i i i agree

891
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:49,600
we don't when we do it try to find at least yeah there's something enjoyable yeah anyway

892
01:51:51,200 --> 01:52:02,480
well that concludes this week's breakdown um let's see next week we will be discussing

893
01:52:02,480 --> 01:52:11,200
halloween kills yeah evil dies next episode oh my gosh it's gonna be so good yes it is

894
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:22,000
um yeah so you guys can look forward to that next week um but yeah so if you like this episode want

895
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:26,240
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896
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:34,960
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897
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:40,960
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898
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:48,640
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899
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:54,400
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900
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:59,600
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901
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:08,080
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902
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:13,520
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903
01:53:13,520 --> 01:53:19,600
our website tinyurl.com forward slash the all bros where you can find links to everything that we do

904
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:29,520
um as well as a a merch option which you can also go on t public but they are just like slowly

905
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:36,640
making it through our store and removing stuff because they're assholes yeah freaking suck

906
01:53:37,440 --> 01:53:46,240
bitches so yeah honestly it'd probably be if you want merch it's probably cheaper to go through

907
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:55,440
the website and get something that you know that you will like like we we order our merch

908
01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:06,000
exclusively from an alternate website i'm not going to give away all my spoilers but the the cost of

909
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:15,440
getting stuff made is super cheap so be sure to hit us up like honestly we're we don't plan on

910
01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:26,880
making a profit for these no we just want did you see that other monster house uh uh dreamcast

911
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:33,920
shirt sold are you shitting me yeah dude i at this point i'm like if there is someone really loves

912
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:41,040
this uh dreamcast or it do they have bots on this kind of shit dude i don't know

913
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:46,480
no i'm like very interested because it seems like that is the only design that we ever sell

914
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:55,120
that yeah like it's only been that and the greatest showman i think yeah that sounds right

915
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:01,040
what the shit like you know what i'm what i'm willing to bet that they're doing

916
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:06,240
they're probably ordering that and then like scratching off our name

917
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:16,160
so rude freaking assholes yeah i know like trying to steal our work it doesn't make sense i didn't

918
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:22,240
do anything like out of everything that we've made the biggest like the biggest thing is is

919
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:29,360
monster house like come on yeah that's weird i mean that was a good dreamcast i gotta go back

920
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:33,520
and listen to it again but from what i remember we actually came up with a pretty good

921
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:38,320
dreamcast yeah i think so too i don't think it would work now because all of the kids that we

922
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:45,760
cast are like way older that's so i can't remember who i cast as chat oh i think i cast jeremy ray

923
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:54,960
taylor as chowder that actually sounds right yeah anyway but yeah that's what you can find on our

924
01:55:55,760 --> 01:56:00,880
on our website um it'll definitely be cheaper i think shirt

925
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:07,040
um it'll definitely be cheaper i think shirts like we were able to get prints on both sides and the

926
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:15,040
shirt was like only what like 13 bucks yeah it sounds right yeah it was like super cheap um

927
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:24,320
uh yeah so like i said next week we'll be breaking down halloween kills but until then

928
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:30,560
this has been the all bros podcast i'm caleb and i'm jonathan and we'll catch you guys next week

929
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:54,880
dayus is so long i'm sorry i'm not feeling it tonight i'm sorry lazy i know