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And we are a couple of aspiring filmmakers that love to watch and critique movies, but
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This week on the podcast, unfortunately, we do not have anything in Funko Focus just because
there wasn't anything super good released.
Or at least not anything that caught our eye.
So we'll be skipping straight on to 4K Spotlight where we have three movies coming out this
week.
And then through the wall we have a couple new trailers and then we will get into our
headliner where we will be breaking down Venom, Let There Be Carnage.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
So without further ado, let's get into it.
Let's do it.
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Alrighty first up in 4k spotlight, we have three new movies coming out like I said, first
of which I'm going to start with the one that we that I don't recognize old.
Uh yeah, so that is M Night Shyamalan's newest movie came out a couple months ago.
I want to say it came out about the same time The Forever Purge came out.
I heard mixed reviews about it.
Uh I mean do you know any of the storyline?
I don't know what this movie is at all.
So basically I guess it's that if you um well what is it like like a family goes to this
type of beach and if I guess if they enter the water the kids get older by the minute
or some shit like that so.
Oh that's trippy.
Yeah like one jumps from like five to like 16 and yeah it's.
So yeah um but so that's getting a regular 4k and blur release as well as a best by steelbook
and the best by steelbook is actually pretty cool because it's an hourglass.
Oh that's trippy.
Yeah it's pretty freaking cool.
It's like wait does it just look like an hourglass or?
So like it has so it's so it's so it's a white steelbook with um uh so yeah it's a white
steelbook with a glass hourglass and then uh you see black on top and then just black
mist coming down.
So the top is still full but the bottom is barely starting to fill up.
Okay I dig it.
Yeah nice thing it works really well.
Yeah alright so yeah that's old.
The next one we got is Scream.
Yes so yeah so Scream is getting a uh its first ever 4k release and so it's just going
to be on regular 4k as well as it is going to have a uh 4k steelbook and um it's actually
not an exclusive it's just you can buy it on amazon best buy i'm sure even target might
have it um and i love the steelbook so much because it's the classic knife and in the
reflection of it you see ghost faced ghost face.
I dig it.
It's simple but i love it um but i mean the regular 4k is just the classic poster where
it's like drew barrymore putting her hand over her mouth.
Nice so yeah.
Dude i'm a sucker for the like the um the simple um covers.
I am too yeah same here.
Like i've kind of found that the even with like the episode arts that i do i've found
even then i the simpler i go the more i like it there like there are some instances where
i don't like i'm not necessarily the biggest fan of the our friend artwork but it was super
hard to think of anything to do.
No that's i think you did a great job i couldn't i wouldn't have been able to think of anything.
Yeah but other ones i'm just yeah just keep it simple like yeah it always ends up looking
nicer yeah like i feel like that's what they've done with a bunch of other logos like i think
the firefox logo looks super crisp now.
Oh yeah absolutely and just some like other um logos here and there like just they just
look better when they're just simple like just taking down to the roots.
Yeah.
So anyway i appreciate that and i freaking love scream like it's freaking brookers fault
but we watched all all four of them and it's so good.
Alright next up the we got snake eyes.
And this one as well is all of these are hidden steel books which is kind of amazing.
So this is getting a regular 4k and blur release as well as a steel book which is going to
be exclusive to best buy.
Um i don't know the steel book's kind of plain to me well actually wait no i don't even know
if the steel book is exclusive.
It's actually not you can find that you can get it anywhere.
So the only one that is exclusive is the old steel book both scream and snake eyes are not
exclusive this week.
But so the steel book's kind of i don't know the steel book is kind of boring in my opinion
it's just him in full costume with his helmet and then um tokyo in the background.
That one that one's tough because it is like the title character.
We haven't seen the movie yet.
No dude i haven't even seen the other two gi joe movies yet.
You haven't seen either of them?
Speaking of that i need to send you those codes because i bought them because walmart
i don't know if it was like a mistake or whatnot but walmart had the 4ks of those.
For what was it the first one was only 10 bucks on 4k and then the second one was like
15 which is not bad for 4ks.
No that's not bad at all.
And i told you because when you bought them they actually came with free movie tickets
to go see snake eyes but i never went and saw it.
That'd be an interesting one to do the um our movie nights on.
Which we could finally do now.
There we go.
Yeah so i'll i'll look into that and maybe that's that'll be one that we do as well.
Honestly i should have just sent you the codes and you and braille could have gone and seen
it.
Probably we probably wouldn't have.
Oh okay all right all right okay and i don't feel so bad anymore.
Yeah cool so yeah those are the uh the 4ks that we're getting this week.
Moving on to through the wall uh we have two new trailers that we're going to talk about.
The first one uh i don't know which one i want to talk about more.
Yeah yeah i do home sweet home alone.
Which is coming to disney plus on was it disney plus day.
I think so yeah i think that's when it comes out.
Yeah so they are i don't even know what this is if it's a reboot remake.
They've done so many okay so the funny thing about like the reboots i feel in the home
alone franchise the first two of course you know are the classics you know home alone
2 is a straight sequel to the first home alone.
But then number three feels like a reboot which actually i have a soft spot for home
alone 3.
I actually really like home alone 3.
But then you get home alone 4 taking back the house where they're trying to say that
oh yeah no that's the true home alone 3.
That totally takes place after the first two when kevin is way too young to be uh like
he's younger than what he was in the first two.
Marv does so it's supposed to be marv who is with his wife but yet marv is bald in this
one he looks more like harry he doesn't have curly hair and then there's not even as many
kids as they're supposed to be there's only like kevin buzz and uh i forget the sister's
name but yeah buzz doesn't even look like bugs buzz he's too scrawny oh i hate that
movie dude i think we can all agree that anything any home alone movie after 2 is complete and
utter shit see i would say after 3 i don't hate number 3 you are absolutely wrong like
i said i have a soft spot for home alone 3 i actually really like home alone 3 you have
a soft spot for garbage then you have a soft spot for kiss my ass that dude that movie
is so bad when was the last time you watched home alone 3 i tried watching it last year
okay never mind i was gonna say if it's been many years watch it again and see if your
mind changes but never mind yeah i attempted to watch it last year i got through the first
10 minutes before i was like this is just garbage and shut it off but you get young
scarlett joe hansen oh cool i don't give a shit
oh okay but you gotta admit it's better than what we got after not by much i disagree but
that's just me home alone 4 is a piece of absolute shit i hate that movie so much i
never even bothered with halloween halloween alone oh my gosh dude how are people supposed
to take our opinion seriously when you hit us with that shit dude okay do you know how
exciting okay so we're recording this on october 13th so tomorrow thursday night is when halloween
kills comes out do you know how freaking excited i am for that movie so that's why halloween
is slipping so cut me some slack wait what well because i accidentally said halloween
3 instead of or i said halloween 4 instead of home alone 4 oh i thought that's what you
were i'm tracking i thought that's what you were critiquing me on no i was critiquing
you on how are people supposed to take us seriously when you think home alone 3 was
not that bad hey we all have our guilty pleasures we all have movies that everybody else hates
there's a difference between no there's a difference between a guilty pleasure and liking
shit see but i but home alone 3 is both a guilty pleasure and i like it oh my gosh
disagree that you're wrong you know what the next time i'm out there it doesn't matter
if it's not around christmas we're gonna i'm gonna sit down we're gonna sit down and
i'm gonna force you through home alone 3 absolutely not no absolutely absolutely yes no i do not
watch christmas movies anytime after the new year and before thanksgiving or i don't wait
before yeah yeah after like thanksgiving or christmas time is the the second you're done
with thanksgiving dinner and i will tie you to your couch to make you watch home alone
3 in its entirety good luck with that i will i'm a i'm a biter shit well i'm a kicker so
you're just gonna knock me out yep oh my gosh but okay anyway getting into this trailer
so home alone 6 this is also i didn't even bother with home alone 5 sorry just wanted
to find that out yeah so home sweet home alone is basically exactly how the first one goes
down shocker yeah damn near beat for beat like it's this kid who lives in a big ass
house with a shit ton of family they go on a trip but instead of going to where are they
going like paris i think so yeah instead of going to paris they're going to tokyo and
then he gets left home alone and then some people decide to break into his house decide
that it's better to not cut their losses and just move on to a different house and they
get bushwhacked by this kid just archie something i forget his name yeah the only reason that
i'm going to even like try and watch this movie is because the stunts look like they're
pretty decent that's fair they do and the fact that in this one they got the actor for
buzz to play or from the original the original buzz he is playing a police officer and his
last name is mccallister it's pretty pretty cool yeah devon rat rat ray yeah so there
are two ways that they go with this either they just they i'm i'm willing to bet it's
this one i'm willing to bet that they gave him the last name mccallister and they're
just going to completely ignore it's like just like a fun nod yeah like i'm willing
i i i wouldn't put a lot of money down but i'd put some money down that that's what's
going to happen that's just going to be like oh fun nod yeah and they're not going to even
like address like oh same thing happened to my brother like yeah but then the the other
way they could is they just freaking run with it so i'm hoping they just run with it and
go off of the original like i think that'd be a blast that would be cool um i just don't
know if they would actually do that considering mccully colkin is not going to be in this
one yeah that sucks i would love to see katherine o'hara come back the mom that would be cool
if she was like in a little cameo that'd be awesome that'd be so cool that's her name
right and then katherine o'hara yeah okay yeah i'd be down for that yeah but freaking
i didn't know this i i didn't remember seeing him in the trailer keenan thompson i didn't
know he was going to be in this movie i did not see him in yeah okay but yeah so he's
going to be in it um ellie kemper and rob delaney are playing the robbers this time
around yeah so they're going for like a husband wife situation and this we got that in hummel
on four i think what's going to be looks better i think this is going to be a hard sell because
from the looks of it these people have never committed a crime in their life and they're
going for a home break in and not going to cut their losses like the second like if i
was became desperate enough to rob someone's house and finally was just like okay let's
go for it and got into their house the second i heard any movement i would be done if there's
a small if there's a hamster in that house i will leave out the window yeah but now
you see a child in this house if you still think it's a good idea to rob the place i
mean that just sounds like a no-brainer to me yeah well the only reason that i even bought
uh marvin harry robbing and like continuing to go after the this kid or with kevin mccallister
the only reason that i bought that that was that they were already criminals yeah and
they were like at that point it's just becomes a matter of like oh not wanting to get caught
yeah and being like oh shit we need to take care of this kid like with them they could
just be like all right peace out and guess what they're going to go look at other criminals
they're not even going to look in your general vicinity if you haven't committed a crime
like that before yeah anyway lots of issues be able yeah just no one will ever be able
to top the wet sticky bandits absolutely true um all right so one out of ten for this one
where are you at uh i mean honestly just because we'll be able to see the actor who played
buzz again and i actually i don't hate the casting of ellie kemper and rob delaney as
the burgers even though i agree absolutely agree with you that like it's dumb that they
continue to try to rob this house when they actually know that this kid is like he's fighting
back he ain't gonna let them steal shit um i'd probably say i'm at like a six i'll watch
it but like it's not gonna be like oh day one it'll probably be like hey you know i'm
in the mood for a new christmas movie oh yeah i forgot this came out let's turn it on that's
actually exactly how like my feelings about it except i'm down at like a four okay it
would have to be like really really late one not christmas day yeah dude i feel if you
watch this on like christmas day it'd be like well another christmas in the shitters yeah
for real but eh i mean it looks like it could be worse it's true it could be home alone
four yeah hopefully it's not high hopes that it's it's better than what we're thinking
yeah i'll take it being like home alone three even though caleb hates that movie all right
um you got anything else to say on on this movie uh no but really cool i want to actually
know i mean i don't know if anyone will actually like reach out but does anyone else like like
home alone three like they don't hate it as much as everybody else does i actually really
want to know if i'm not the i can't be the only one you are on a deserted island my actually
you know what you know what christina's there with me my sister enjoys it too so that is
bullshit i want to hear that from her i want to hear that from her there's no way do we
do we grew up on the home alone movies we watch that shit together all the time cool
i was raised on the home alone movies too i still think that movie was or the third one
was shit i promise you she's you know what you know after this we'll call her and she
will absolutely tell you that she doesn't enjoy home alone three that she doesn't know
that she does i'm calling shenanigans okay but anyone but anyone else if anyone else
actually does like home alone three please let me know because i want to know if i am
slash my sister are the only ones that actually like this movie but anyway moving on that's
not quite confirmed yet we'll figure that out at the end of this shut up all right anyway
moving on uh the next trailer that we got is for scream 2021 2022 2022 i thought yeah
it comes out in january what the hell that's bullshit can't they have just called it scream
five yeah like come on we all i mean they're going off like the whole how the reboot this
really isn't a reboot the um how the halloween reboot just called itself halloween again
yeah so but like i don't know with that like it kind of made sense a little bit with this
considering they're not ignoring all of the other four movies they should have just called
it scream five yeah well do we know for sure that they're not ignoring the other ones i
sure as hell hope not because this is actually one of the rare franchises that i only hate
one and i don't fully hate it there's only like one movie in the screen franchise that
i just don't like as much as the others is that three yes sir yep i agree yeah see but
i don't absolutely hate it yeah it's not like the worst thing i've ever seen but it's it
has its issues like how does it's definitely the weaker of the four yes definitely um but
yeah i i'm actually really excited for for this one it looks like so much fun and i've
grown like i said earlier thanks to brokker i have grown and a major appreciation for
the scream franchise hell yeah so i am really excited to to go see this this one definitely
looks like ghost face is not messing around the uh guy that is wearing the mask this time
or girl i'm not trying to be sexist here sorry um but uh so yeah and this one uh basically
uh the killer is now after the spawn of the original survivors or anyone sorry not original
survivors like anyone that was affected in the original movie whether they died or just
isn't it like anyone related to i thought that they were just going off of like relations
to the target like is that what it was that's what i thought it might be that it might be
that i didn't think that these people were related to sydney at all i don't think they're
related to sydney no um okay maybe i okay apparently i didn't read the the victim list
right my bad i think i don't know it could it could be that way well just if that's the
case that's kind of like what they did with scream four a little bit yeah but dude this
trailer got me like worked up it's so good um it it's going to be very interesting because
this is going to be the first scream movie not directed by wes craven since he unfortunately
died a couple years ago rest in peace um so yeah that's gonna it's gonna be very interesting
to see if uh the director of this which was the director of scream five let's find out
uh let's see matt bettinelli olfen and tyler gilett uh are also there's two directors interesting
and it's interesting just don't understand why they couldn't have just called it scream
five but you know what i'm gonna start bitch i'm gonna stop bitching shit i won't i love
the tagline though it's always someone you know it's so true yeah i feel like this is
going to be a good one like almost like they're taking a more serious approach like not saying
that they didn't take the other movie seriously it's just more i think there were a lot of
comedic tones and it seems like they're going a little bit more serious they are oh okay
so it actually says though build as a relaunch of the franchise the film is a direct sequel
to 2011 scream four nice so so it is not ignoring the other scream movies good i appreciate
the hell out of that i do too absolutely but that being said i do hope that they follow
the formula and i hope that that the first interaction that we got with um uh what's
her face like that whole first interaction with like the the door being locked dude that
i hope that's like a movie oh like oh like how they do like the stab three stab four
yeah like i want like stab like 19 or something i love to the opening of scream four is probably
my favorite one besides scream two just because of that it's so funny oh i hope they do it
that way i think that'd be fun that would be really fun um but yeah dude that freaking
intro got me worked up like do i could not imagine having to freaking keep pressing the
button while you're bleeding to death yeah right so it's like they do like that whole
weird inner that's it's kind of that that makes me feel like they're like they're going
to do that same thing where they're opening up with the the scene from a movie because
of the way that she's just like randomly texting her friend and then like a landline so it's
like her landline just suddenly like goes off i'm like yeah first off who has a landline
exactly like scream four could get away with it because it was still in like like i think
scream four came out in like 2009 2010 but we're in the 2020s i don't know anyone that's
still has a landline it's it's cell phones all the way now yeah if anything this is for
movie purposes only so i think we're definitely seeing a clip from like from stab stab 42
yeah so that yeah that's that's what i feel we're getting with that scene but either way
it was freaking terrifying because she has these automatic locks on her door and she
sees like doors unlocked and then she like locks them real fast and then door like unlocked
i'm like like i was getting worked up because i'm like that shit is real yeah dude it's
freaking intense yeah and that's exactly why i will never own smart home equipment that's
fair like yeah that's the most the most that i will do is cameras that's fair yeah other
than that and i would agree absolutely not other yeah absolutely freaking not like i
am not playing around with when it comes to like when everyone else is getting their homes
attacked or being cooked alive by their furnace or whatever i'll be sitting heavy with my
manual thermometer dial oh dude so i just thought of something um so so at the ending
of this trailer awesome scene because uh sydney sees ghostface and he says sydney presscott
it's an honor and like you're just like oh my gosh so cool but like after he said that
all i can think of is freaking davi in the chamber of secrets harry poto what an honor
it is i don't know why but that popped into my head after he said that that's hilarious
i'm excited for this one i'm what oh yeah i'm i'm trying to think of where i'm at i'm
thinking i'm at a nine dude same like uh they did a great job reviving the halloween franchise
and i can't wait to see if they can pull it off with the scream franchise as well yeah
this that's going to be so much freaking fun all right um you got anything else to say
about scream uh no all righty well with that i say we can get into our headliner where
we break down venom let there be carnage
all righty like we said we will be breaking down venom let there be carnage um so if you
are new to our breakdown system we have split movies into eight different categories that
we individually score to come to a final all bros letter grade the eight categories that
we score are story writing acting character development effects music costumes and then
we give it our own personal grade at the very end then all of those numbers get magically
added up in our algorithm and spits out a uh a letter grade a schoolhouse letter grade
for us to compare this movie to others um so with that if you have not seen this movie
definitely go check it out um but spoiler alerts ahead rose is about to spoil the entire
freaking movie for you um so yeah if you listen past this point it's your own damn fault so
reading with rose everyone yes with two e's with two e's all right in 1996 a young cletus
cassidy watches helplessly as his love francis barrison is taken away from st estes home
for unwanted children to rave to the ravencroft institute on the way she uses her sonic scream
powers to escape and attacks young police officer patrick mulligan he shoots barris
barrison in the eye and suffers an injury to his ear due to her scream a benoist to
mulligan who believes he killed her barrison is taken to the facility which is hardened
against her powers in the present day mulligan now a detective contacts eddie brock to speak
to cassidy a serial killer who refuses to talk to anyone other than brock following
their interview a year prior after the visit venom eddie simbio is able to figure out where
cassidy has hidden the body of the victims which gives brock a huge career boost brock
is then contacted by his ex-fiance ann wane excuse me who tells him that she is now engaged
to dr dan lewis much to venom's displeasure cassidy who was found guilty of his crimes
an earlier sentence to death by lethal injection invites brock over to san quentin state prison
where cassidy is detained on on death row to attend his execution however venom is
provoked to attack cassidy via insults towards brock cassidy bites brock's hand ingesting
a small part of the symbiote back home venom wanting more freedom to eat people has an
argument with brock and the two end up fighting until the symbiote detaches from his body
and they go their different ways cassidy's execution fails when a red symbiote emerges
and blocks the injection it introduces himself as carnage and goes on a violent rampage through
the prison freeing inmates and killing guards cassidy and carnage then make a deal carnage
will help cassidy break out barrison from ravencroft and cassidy will help him eliminate
venom mulligan calls brock and warns him about the situation in ravencroft cassidy frees
barrison and they travel to their old children's home to burn it down mulligan suspicious of
brock due to his interactions with cassidy before carnage emerged takes brock to the
police station brock refuses to answer mulligan's questions and conch and contacts wang as his
lawyer brock reveals that venom has separated from him and needs the symbiote to fight carnage
together as venom makes his way through san francisco by hopping from body to body wang
finds and convinces him to forgive brock she bonds with venom and breaks brock out of the
police station brock and venom make amends and bond again cassidy takes mulligan hostage
and barrison captures wang after failing to find brock barrison barrison gives lewis information
on wang's whereabouts and he gives it to brock cassidy and barrison plan to get married
at a cathedral where venom appears and fights carnage barrison seemingly kills mulligan
with her sonic powers venom holds his own against his spawn but he is eventually overpowered
by carnage and the latter decides to kill wang atop the cathedral venom manages to rescue
wang in time and provokes barrison to use her powers again her sonic blast causes both
symbiotes to separate from their hosts and the cathedral collapses and a falling bell
kills barrison venom saves brock by bonding with him before the impact carnage tries to
bond with cassidy again but venom devours the symbiote killing it cassidy states that
he only wanted to be brock's friend but venom bites cassidy's head off while brock venom
wang and lewis escape a still-living mulligan's eyes flash blue brock and venom decide to
take a vacation while they ponder their next steps in the mid-credits scene venom tells
brock about the symbiotes knowledge of other universes but before venom can show him a
blind a blinding light transports them from their hotel room to another room where they
watch jay jones jamison reveal spider-man's identity as peter parker on television hell
yeah um bet you didn't see that coming as the end credits scene because they kept saying
it was going to be so far down the line those bastards yeah like anytime the um i i knew
that this movie had something to do with spider-man and like just addressing this this credit
scene first sorry no no it's fine um yeah i i had a feeling that it had to do with spider-man
in some way because it was like shortly after the premiere andy circus came on he was just
like oh we're really hoping that spider-man and venom can interact in the coming years
i'm like okay so we know spider-man's going to be in this in some in some capacity were
you at all disappointed by the end credits scene i was a little disappointed okay i'm
glad i'm not the only one i was expecting more um not really actually that's not true
it was it wasn't necessarily the reveal it's just kind of what came before that that kind
of pulled me out of it because what i'm gathering is that something happens to the multiverse
and venom gets pulled into spider-man's time yeah but it was more the um the implications
of that scene that that got me bummed out so okay and this is what i'm meaning when
venom gets transferred into this other world he is in a dingy like just run down like it
seems like a mexican hope like almost like a motel like he's just like it's just broken
down and it's really dark gloomy and what have you and he gets and then the flash of
light and he's suddenly in a bright almost like cheerful type environment and so i'm
hoping that that doesn't mean that venom is going to have a lighter tone to it because
i really like the dark tones to these venom movies yeah i would definitely agree with
you on that one so that's what that's what bummed me out more than the the cameo itself
i'm just like okay can i wish it was almost like reversed where it was like where it was
like bright and happy to boom doom and gloom because then it would it would then it wouldn't
have felt so much like oh they're lightning venoms tones like it'd be like okay they're
sticking with the dark tones it just has spider-man in it now yeah that's a good way to look
at it yeah like that's that's honestly the only thing other than that it was just kind
of an underwhelming it i mean like i get it they didn't want like him and spider-man to
actually meet he they just wanted us to know that he is aware that spider-man is a thing
now um yeah but i don't know just kind of wanted more but you know it will come down
the line yeah like and it's almost if it honestly felt weird like why would venom be obsessed
with him that's a good point like i almost wish like the way that i would have done this
was i would have shown spider-man with his mask on and have venom almost like freak out
like there's another red symbiote oh okay and be like oh shit another red one and then
then brock being like no no no it's just some kid in a mask and then like and then they
do like the whole peter parker is spider-man and then have like that's where the obsession
comes from like oh like venoms like oh it's this kid dressed like a symbiote okay yeah
see that actually would have been really cool that would have worked very well yeah just
just like just a little bit of a tweak would have drastically changed the the ending for
me yeah no i absolutely agree but i think it was just that like the the obsession with
spider-man came from out of nowhere and just felt yeah so i think that just kind of jacked
with the the tone but yeah anyway getting into the actual like meat and potatoes of
this movie um so we ended up giving the story a 71 okay and it wasn't awful like it was
no it's i'm sorry you go no sorry um no i was gonna say um for a sequel um i actually
think it is a decent story and for how it does set up the uh fight between uh venom
and carnage it's just they cram so much into an hour and a half that like you really don't
get a chance to breathe a lot of this movie like first you know like first you get reintroduced
to well actually first you get introduced to cletus cassidy and then bear what the hell
is it barrison and then you get reintroduced to eddie brock then it jumps back to cletus
uh then it's just it's just like so much to take in i feel in an hour and a half that
in your opinion do you think this could have benefited for being two hours i think it easily
could have been that long okay because i mean i don't know like the whole like right out
actually during the whole movie i don't know if you've ever seen the video where it's the
audio where he's just like why are we going so f and fast have you ever seen that i i
don't think i have so fun yeah like the audio is just like why are we going so f and fast
what that's how i felt like most of this movie i'm like andy circus you could have easily
made this movie two hours yeah we would have forgiven you yeah you had so much to work
with uh um yeah dude i don't i thought the movie was like two hours but when i checked
it was like an hour and a half i'm like geez yeah but yeah it's like an hour 37 yeah it
just you rush through it's so hard this is the same issue i had with the fan four stick
yeah but it's like it's so much except that one gave you room to breathe a little bit
true but this it was just like boom boom boom like plot point after plot point after plot
point and you're like yeah it's yeah you you don't even get a chance to get whiplash no
you yeah you really don't um which is why i was actually surprised that they were able
to set up cletus actually pretty decently i feel for it only being an hour and a half
i honestly think they did like barrison not so much like i don't know like her screaming
stuff that was cool um but i didn't really care for her that much when it comes to like
how eddie and cletus interacted with each other throughout this story and like how cletus
says you know i just wanted a uh you know a friend and you um especially the way that
they he freaking interacted with him when he's on death row like before he attacks him
and bites him freaking such a great scene i freaking loved it yeah um but i mean like
how did you feel about like uh the story with like the returning characters with uh his
old uh girlfriend what's her name i know her last name is mole again no sorry that's the
detective uh and and and then um was holy shit what's her uh fiance's name i forget
was he in the first one uh yes he was so dan okay see i made the stupid mistake of not
watching the first one before i saw this one because i haven't seen the first one in quite
a while and so i totally forgot i remember that uh ann was in the first one but i just
for some reason couldn't remember that dan was um but yeah um i thought i don't know
i think they did a decent job with the um with that introduction or reintroduction like
it didn't feel like it came out of nowhere like it was i mean i've mixed feelings about
it that's fair it it did obviously come out of nowhere because venom and eddie were in
the middle of something but i do think once they got into it it didn't feel like it was
forced like it felt good it felt really good after that it was just maybe the introduction
was maybe just a little like like quick well because is aren't they uh like jumping around
from building to building at night and then all of a sudden she calls and she's just like
hey meet me tomorrow night i got a big thing to tell you yeah yeah yeah for sure um yeah
honestly i didn't have any issues when it came to ann and dan yeah no i i didn't really
you were i feel like ann actually had a lot more to do in this movie than she did in the
first the only thing that i had a problem with ann is did we really have to turn her into
the damsel in distress towards the end like really yeah that was dumb i think they could
have done something different with that yeah i hate it when like they can't think of anything
else to do when it comes to a reason why the villain needs to have the hero come to this
area so they're like oh let's just kidnap the love interest yeah but it's also like
what else motivates a villain like enough because you in this like we we know that um
that venom and eddie are the the protagonists but they're also very antagonistic people
like they're in the end venom is more or less a villain it's true which i think this is
going to be interesting to see how they handle the interaction between spider-man and venom
it's just kind of like who are they going to make the antagonist here are they going
to make spider-man the antagonist because that i think that would be a much more interesting
dynamic than if they were to make venom the antagonist that would be super interesting
and i would i would be so down for that yeah like that'd be something it's just like make
us root for venom over spider-man that would be insane um yeah yeah but just imagine being
a like the parenthesis like hey you're supposed to be rooting for spider-man and kids just
like no mom screw spider-man venom is where it's at but he's ripping people's heads off
so that's cool uh he needs it to survive mom yeah like come on get with the times mom yeah
but i think i think overall that is the only thing that would have motivated those two
fair enough i don't think that yeah i don't think anything else like they didn't do it
to be heroes they didn't do it for all this this praise they did it to save ann which
is a very in a way a selfish need yeah selfish desire so that kind of tracks with the villain
way that's true that's true true so i think it it worked was i happy with it no but i
think it worked well enough okay i can agree with you on that one um one thing that i had
to look up when the movie was freaking over was what happened to mulligan because he went
and got like bushwhacked by um oh shit what was her name barrison yeah barrison so barrison
was the one that shot or mulligan detective mulligan shot barrison because she was trying
to escape and she made him deaf because her powers shriek yeah um so she wanted revenge
for her injury so as a wedding gift cletus kidnapped mulligan and basically gave him
to to barrison and the barrison went on her way to go kill to kill him there was an altercation
and something happened where he was like getting hung but pissed off carnage and carnage attacked
her and so mulligan fell and at the very end it was revealed he opens his eyes and he has
like bright blue eyes and so i was having a really difficult time trying to figure out
what the hell that was about and i actually figured it out what is it so mulligan is actually
a character from the comics he was first introduced as the spawn of carnage wow and yeah so he
was introduced in 2004 in the venom versus carnage storyline he is the spawn of carnage
and he his character or he his uh he becomes toxin so toxin is the child of of carnage
i'll say i didn't even know that i didn't either so i i just learned all this information
today oh shit okay um but toxin i think ends up becoming a hero oh um at least from what
i from what i read it did say he becomes a very formidable hero and like okay that's
interesting yeah so i have a feeling we're going to be seeing mulligan again possibly
in the next uh movie i'm cool with that because the guy's actually a really good actor yeah
i actually really liked him a lot um but yeah overall though like sticking with story i
think they could have taken the time to slow down yes and i think what dropped the story
overall is almost very basic desires or um not desires very basic um motivations yes
i absolutely agree yeah i think that's that's honestly what what ended up killing it and
there was something else story-wise that killed it for me um but it also ties into character
development which i feel is these are these two things are kind of tied in together so
it's really hard to talk about one without the other um i did not like how venom and
eddie separated and then came back together because of an apology that's okay that's fair
well why like venom's whole issue with eddie was eddie wasn't giving him like i don't even
understand like what was going on between them it was just like maybe eddie wasn't being
very appreciative of venom and venom was just kind of wreaking havoc on eddie's life and
it came to blows where they were fighting each other which was absolutely hilarious
yeah it was funny just seeing uh eddie getting thrown around the room and trying to like
beat the shit out of venom i didn't think i was gonna like i laughed really hard when
i first saw the whole like venom breaking eddie's nose joke and i'd seen it a couple
times after and so i didn't think i was gonna laugh at it as hard as i did when i saw it
again but it was gold it's just as funny yeah um so just like that whole thing like with
how bad everything just kind of exploded it was yeah i think that their like coming together
felt odd especially because at the end the way that they were able to defeat carnage
was because carnage and cletus weren't symbiotic and i'm like venom and car or eddie incarnate
eddie and venom so many freaking names in this yeah eddie and venom weren't very symbiotic
either like i feel like i don't know they should have had a more coming together moment
no it's fair i can understand that yeah just something where they realized that they couldn't
do different things without the other yeah and realizing that carnage and cletus weren't
symbiotic and then realizing to defeat them they needed to become more symbiotic yeah
then you could have gotten like the whole we are venom shit again but if you wanted
to but i don't know i i just could have been a little bit better no i think it's just enough
issues moving on over to writing we're sitting at a 74.5 so a little bit higher than the overall
story um i don't know what they were trying to do with cletus like i liked him but it
was also very weird the way that like he spoke it was very like poetic at times but then
very not at others it's like they couldn't quite decide how to write cletus i'm wondering
if they just decided to take like a bunch of like well-known serial killers and just
like incorporate them all into them they're just like here we got some bundy we got some
gasey we got some domer put them all together and here's cletus yeah um one thing that i
remember when they are fighting in the church scene and cletus is going on like you didn't
share the other side of the story like while beating up eddie and being like you didn't
tell them how young little cletus was getting beat by mama getting beat by granny and then
getting beat by daddy and like all this other shit i'm like we didn't even hear the like
we didn't hear or see anything regarding eddie's article like we don't know what the hell was
in it yeah that's true yeah there was never like a flash of like what the actual article
was to where you could like i mean of course since this was a theater only exclusive you
wouldn't be able to just like you know like phrase it and actually read it um but i never
i don't think i ever like saw any image of the actual article yeah i think that's where
the movie could have been extended maybe do a little bit more of a deep dive on with eddie
on cletus's past yeah i think that would have actually been really cool yeah like when they
went and burned down the the the house that they were that they met at like that felt
very like you understood but it's just like we don't understand the full meaning behind
that like we don't fully understand why they wanted to go and and do that yeah no that's
true like okay what happened other than you two were just separated like i think we maybe
we got a little bit where cletus was just like oh i got beat up all the time in his
little letter but yeah also i don't know if i had to like read transcribe that shit f you
that's some no like fu that's bullshit yeah so it's just that kind of came out of nowhere
the reason that i feel it scored as high as it did the comedic bits yes like that's honestly
what saved it every comedy bit that they came up with between venom and eddie was pretty
top-notch um honestly i feel i laughed more in this one than the first same here yeah
and i think i i started laughing the most when venom was like leaving and like destroying
eddie's motorcycle and then jumped on that chick with the bike and the chick with the
bike is just like screaming and freaking out and venom's like flipping off eddie and yeah
tell us other shit dude i freaking died at the part where um this is more so towards
the beginning when uh venom is about to bite um mulligan's head and freaking eddie just
like brings them both into the bathroom you see the lady in the next stall she's just
like trying to like i wasn't her like uh like she tries to like look under but she's not
able to really see anything yeah dude i freaking love i always thought people could hear like
i i thought like when when venom came out like that i always i thought people could
hear him i thought so too but i guess not yeah that's that's wow apparently he can only
be heard by other people when he's like fully out yeah that's very interesting but i freaking
love that that scene too when he's just telling eddie get your tiny little hands off me and
i thought there was like a really sweet moment when when ann revealed that she was engaged to
dan and venom was like basically explaining to to eddie he's like hey i can fix all these physical
injuries i can't fix what's on the inside yeah that was uh like he's like heartbroken like trying
to crash into a a car on his bike and venom's telling him like yo slow down and like and he's
just like why i'm basically invincible because you can fix anything yeah and then venom takes
control steers him on the side of the road and he's just like listen like you're not okay and you
need to take basically being super mature and healthy yeah like like you said he basically
says i can fix anything that breaks on you except for your heart yeah he's just like you're you're
on your own when it comes to that like i'm super sad about it too but you kind of got to move on
bro yeah and he calls him an amoeba and he's just like the only reason i'm gonna let that slide is
because i know or is because we're hurting i'm just like bro oh man um i'm sorry no no i was
just saying i loved it um how did you feel about the writing for uh shriek
honestly indifferent i didn't care for shriek one way or the other i honestly i've i honestly
would have just taken her out of this movie and just had it be just cletus and uh um eddie i know
that you know to make cletus's story worse and more heartbreaking you had to have it be his love
interest is on the brink of dying and or he's gonna be executed should be executed and uh
he's gonna be executed shit like that well wait no i'm sorry he was the one that was gonna be
executed yeah but like he you know him being ripped away from her at such a young age and
all that stuff but like i don't know like honestly i feel like you could have like maybe tweaked it a
little bit and taken shriek out and like the story really wouldn't have been affected that much
yeah i agree um yeah i i think it was just odd the relationship like i almost would have preferred
but i mean i don't know how else carnage would have be or venom would have beat carnage
carnage but i almost would have preferred if carnage was fully controlled by cletus
and then maybe began to grow a sentience later i don't see i kind of liked that fact that you
could tell a carnage was definitely the one that was in control between the two of them um and
freaking they did such a great job making carnage terrifying in this one because when shriek first
slits out that scream and carnage like comes back into his normal form and she he's just like if she
does that one more time she's dead or like i rip her head off i'm like oh shit yeah i was like damn
they made carnage terrifying in this one like kudos to you andy circus on the writing or whoever
and yeah whatever carnage was written very very well when it came to the scariness factor in this
film well funny enough it was actually tom hardy and a kelly marcel who wrote this damn tom hardy
is there anything you can't do dude like he did when it came to the relationship between
eddie and venom i think the writing was very good i just didn't like how they separated
and then it came back together with like kind of a half-assed apology no i i can absolutely
agree with you if if you're gonna explore the idea that venom decides to actually leave eddie
brock's body you gotta have a damn good reason and a very good execution for that reason of why
they decide to come back together yeah like i i think the idea was solid was super solid it's
just the execution of it wasn't that solid no that's fair that's fair so i mean it's hard to get
upset but i think he definitely tried and i think he it definitely was better than the overall story
so i think it's 74.5 is is pretty fair yeah i absolutely agree um moving on over to acting
we're actually sitting at an 83 once again tom hardy is great as eddie brock and as the voice
of venom shocker yeah honestly the person who dropped it for me was woody
actually well that's not true woody dropped it a little bit everyone else dropped it more
see that's actually um like definitely tom hardy is my favorite in this movie shocker because he's
really good as eddie brock and venom but i don't know what they were going with for cletus i
actually really liked and woody harrelson does such a good job at playing like like a like the
serial killer kind of type he does it very well um so i actually did not have a lot of problems
with uh woody harrelson he definitely brought the acting score out for it the biggest character
that dropped it for me and i know i already brought her up was actually shriek um
um i don't know just i was not the biggest fan of the character and the at maybe just it's the
way the character is written the actress is not a bad actress um just i don't know just was not
the biggest fan of this character yeah um also i think shriek is i'm gonna look it up
okay okay i thought she was supposed to be a symbiote but she's not so that's what i thought
too yeah right like oh wait what's that yellow it was the yellow uh symbiote in the first one that was
that's not the same actor is it no it's it's not oh okay her scream that's not the same actor
scream that's what it was yeah so the yellow symbiote in the first one was scream so shriek
is a completely different character got it that's confusing just a wee bit um but yeah so she was
played by naomi harris let's see where i've seen her in other things i know i feel like i have too
i just don't know what oh she played um oh shit what's her name she was tiya dalma
in the pirates of the caribbean oh calypso shriek yeah okay i know who you're talking about
what else has she done that's the only thing i write i would recognize her from that's fair
that's fair oh yeah yeah tiya dalma yeah or i think davy jones called her calypso
yeah i think you're right i need to watch those movies again i still haven't even seen the fifth
one actually i haven't even seen the fourth or fifth one i'm so behind dude i know it's sad
yeah but um yeah she was what dropped it for me i think she was just
kind of an unnecessary character at times yeah i agree i think that that's something else i feel
like uh they could have improved on maybe made us care for her a bit more like shown the relationship
between her and cletus like blossoming more or just giving us a better understanding as to why
we should care about her yes oh absolutely i agree so yeah everyone else was just kind of like
eh whatever but eddie and cletus were definitely or tom hardy and witty harrelson were definitely
the the high marks of this movie yes um i actually boosted my acting score or i was going to until i
realized i'm actually exactly where i want to be um i boosted or i was going to boost because of
how well witty harrelson did the voice of carnage yeah oh so so good it was so good it was so
different too oh yeah it is like tom hardy is great as the voice of venom but like
i don't know why like the way that witty harrelson did the voice of carnage it's kind of like soothing
but in like the worst way possible just because carnage is the way that he is
yeah like i freaking love it i think my my issue with because with tom hardy i'm barely i'm barely
in the 90s if at all with him at like alone and the issue that or the reason that he's
down or that brings it down is because of his venom voice it's too like sometimes like i i'm
gonna need to watch this movie again when it comes out on blu-ray with subtitles with yeah
i had to do the same thing with the first one because i know i missed i missed some stuff that
venom said i already know it yep i did too i was just like what the hell did he just say
it's just because it feels like he takes water in his mouth and just kind of like
like it's almost sounds wet the way that he talks
that's straight up what it sounds like yeah and then with carnage he he adds some like
gruffness to his voice but you're right it there is a soothing tone to it yeah it is i love it
it is i love it love it yeah and so it was just so wildly different than the way that woody harrelson
talks or portrayed cletus yeah and i think the um like fun fact for everyone and this is just
something that i learned uh woody harrelson actually was trying to get andy circus to do
the voice of carnage and just saying like oh no one's gonna like realize it's me or no one would
if and andy circus like pushed for him to do the voice himself see i think that's awesome and i
like that because you know tom hardy does the voice for his symbiote and i love that andy circus
pushed for woody harrelson to do the voice for his yeah and he just he freaking knocked it out
of the park it was so good absolutely oh i loved it yeah so let's
all right let's do top four but i'm going to say we can venom and carnage can be their own characters
if you so choose for them to be okay then yeah you just made this easy for my top four then
um okay what's yours uh number one is eddie brock okay two two is carnage
okay three is cletus cassidy and actually four mine too
it's yeah wait like it's the exact same order or your number four is venom nope exactly the same
name hell yeah that doesn't happen very often no but that's freaking awesome
just yeah the fact that you can't understand venom it seems like for half the lines that he says
that's what pushes him down i will say this it wasn't as bad as the first one that is true yeah
that that is very true you can definitely tell that tom hardy has learned how to make his uh like his
words come across as more clear when doing the venom voice yeah i think honestly the only time that
to i don't like tom hardy and his acting is when he's doing a voice
fair like because when he's just like eddie brock he's great
oh yeah like i didn't like his capone because he was doing a voice the entire freaking time
i didn't care for his bane because his bane was super hard to understand i i actually do disagree
with you on that one i love tom hardy's bane i mean with subtitles he's a lot better
okay you know what you're not wrong
um yeah and then same with venom like his venom is like super good but really hard to understand
so yeah i think 83 is is more than fair for this movie absolutely
moving on over to character development which we've already discussed a little bit this is at a 68.5
that's fair um i know uh kayla both kayla and i have a hard time when it comes to because you
know you're thinking with the character development oh do i want it to be eddie brock or venom that
i'm focusing on but you kind of can't do the character development without both of them
because the story is really about them like dealing with how they are affected by each other like how
venom is kind of like messed up eddie's life like you know he lost the he lost the love of his life
he's not doing that great as a reporter until the whole cleat uh he gets everything that he needs
to know from cletus and how venom is able to figure out where he hid the bodies um i know it's
it's of it's interesting to see how they uh what's the word
like how they need each other but they also don't need each other but like kayla pointed out earlier
when they do split and then come back together it just doesn't feel what's the word earned
um because the like you said the apology is so half-assed um that that really drags down the
character development yeah it's just like why i don't know just sincerity is the big deal it's
like they didn't come together because they they needed to well i mean yeah they didn't really come
together because they needed to like venom could have kept jumping from person to person
if he wanted that's yeah that's very true but he accepted some half-assed apology so he doesn't
have to eat people yeah like i almost would have preferred um like what if uh eddie started like
suffering from like an illness of some sort or maybe his injuries started like coming back again
slowly oh okay and then like that kind of made him realize what that he needed venom and then
the then then that would have made the like i have no issues with the apology it's just
the like i have no issues with the apology it's just how half-assed the apology was yes yeah so
i think it would have been better for us to see vet or eddie in a more vulnerable state
and then giving that apology and being like listen like i understand what you've been doing for me all
this time i'm in a really bad place right now like physically i need you you cannot keep feeding off
these people that you claim to have a love for and just kind of going that route like kind of seeing
like why they need to work together like giving us kind of like a walkthrough of like oh this is why
we need to be together yeah like just kind of play it up like a romance like it would have worked
very well yeah like i think it would have but unfortunately we got what we got yeah
so yeah 68.5 uh sitting for or score for character development
um don't really have anything else to add to that that was my biggest issue with it and it honestly
dropped it just a lot no i would absolutely agree with you yeah i think ultimately it's just didn't
feel like either of them had learned a lesson yes yeah absolutely all right next up we got effects
which we are sitting at a 79.5 it's not it's not bad um i loved the way they made carnage look in
this movie oh my god i loved the character design um i will admit the animation i feel for venom and
carnage or the cgi was better than the first one um really yeah i don't know to me like it
venom seemed like he was more so there this time whereas in the first one like there were some parts
for me that i'm just like it's a little too cgi for me um but in this one i really never saw any
there were really never any points that i'm just like oh no that doesn't look like venom or carnage
is really there oh i actually yeah which is interesting because we're only one point away
from each other yeah that is interesting i think overall when it came to the action sequences the
effects looked phenomenal okay what got me were the non-action sequences um so there was a point
i think in the in the beginning when venom is talking to eddie and his mouth almost seemed like
it was being like stop motion eddies or venoms venoms i don't like it was with this and so oh
and then when he was talking to the damn uh like the purse snatcher uh okay there was just times
where his mouth just it wasn't moving right like i couldn't tell you what was wrong with it it was
just very teeth and i think i think maybe that was it i think there was just a lot of teeth
and i have no problems with venom and his teeth like that's just kind of like a staple of his
character it's just i feel like his mouth covered more of his teeth in the in the first and so when
he talked it almost felt like he can make all the noises yeah i mean that's fair i mean i think um
for me at least i feel like uh when venom like just comes out of the back of eddie at least in
this one and and i'm not trying to like say like oh uh like i'm not trying to compare this movie as
much as to the first one but there were parts in the first one that i felt that uh when he came out
of his back it didn't look right whereas in this one for the most part it did yeah i all agree with
you on that it looked a lot better in this one than than the other yeah okay good i'm glad we're in
agreeance with that yeah i honestly for me it was just the the talking they got me that's fair i'm
gonna have to definitely go back and look at that yeah because i think you're right carnage looked
really good when he was speaking it was just venom it was just like all teeth and so it was like
you shouldn't be able to make some noises yeah i i get you um but overall i think the effects were
pretty good some issues here and there minor gripes um one big one that i've i freaking
docked for a very green screen beach yes oh my i don't know if that was i would be very surprised
if someone were to say that was a real beach yeah if it looked very very green screen
um but i didn't dock too bad for that one is just like my issues throughout the movie
all right next up we got music so with this there wasn't a lot of there wasn't like a a soundtrack
that's just like oh they played this pop song in this pop song it was yeah it was very reliant on
the movie scores but the movie scores were incredible yes like um honestly the only like
actual like uh song that stuck out besides the oh like um actual like original soundtrack um is the
song towards at the end credits uh i think it's called last one standing which is actually a
pretty good song that's playing like over the credits when i was saying it was in it um but
yeah like caleb said the score gets you hyped for especially when it is actually like venom versus
carnage oh my gosh incredible incredible um okay oh sorry no you go um i'm gonna actually work this
in with um music um did your theater have a decent sound system not really um i don't know maybe it's
just cinemark had it up a little too uh but when the bell kept constantly going off like i was
actually almost ready to cover my ears because like it was actually like freaking hurting oh
my gosh dude that was one thing that i was thinking i'm like i'm so glad i did not see this in imax
yes yeah i'm glad i didn't see this in xd because oh my gosh i would have been freaking ow
oh my gosh that was one thing like anytime carnage roared i was just like bloody hell
oh seriously though it was so freaking loud it's like carnage you're at a you're at a 15 i'm gonna
need you about about a three yeah no shit or at least a seven like yeah but that's saying a lot
because my my theater's i went to an amc because i don't have cinemarks here or at least i don't
think i do the nearest one is like a hundred miles away bloody hell yeah no shit but i was just sitting
there and i'm like this is loud okay good i'm glad i'm not the only one that almost went deaf
because the damn bell and carnage is roars yeah like anytime carnage roared i'm just like shit
like it almost pulled me out of the movie how much i was just like this is a lot
or just thinking like i would be completely deaf if i saw this in in imax dude so when carnage
finally ripped to the actual like bell out of it or whatever it's called from i'm like thank you i
i seriously just wanted to shout out thank you yeah then oh my god and then shriek too
oh my hell i thought yeah that was pretty bad too i still think the bell annoyed me more
i thought shriek would annoy me the most but no that bell like that was
ear deafening that really pissed me off yeah but honestly it's hard it was hard for like that is
definitely something that i docked for but like that those extra sound effects because we can
honestly change music to audio and probably be fine okay it's just it was loud yeah like oh my
gosh i can't remember the last time i saw a movie tour like i had to be okay can we turn it down a
little bit i hate to sound like that kind of person but this is a little too much for my ears right
now yeah and like i wasn't even like sitting off to the side by one of the speakers i was in the middle
oh dude i was too like the shit oh that would have sucked dude straight up
but anyway yeah music uh we gave an eight two not bad yeah definitely not bad i think what it was
really lacking was just something that gets stuck in your head and whoever is the audio sampler
just dial it down a couple notches please yeah please we don't all want to go deaf
yeah which i'm assuming he was
it's almost like i i wonder just with shit like that did the roars or like those noises get like
progressively louder because like how funny would that be it's just like the guy listening to this
all day just getting more and more deaf so he's just like i just need to be a little higher
and he just keeps doing that little higher a little higher just imagine yeah like the like head of this
soundboard is just like like larry turn it down louder okay
oh sorry i had a 10 but i can crank it up to a 15 you got it charles yeah
all right next up we got costumes um we are going to include even though we did discuss it a little
bit in effects we are going to be including how venom looked and how carnage looked but we're just
going to be talking about the character model it's not necessarily how they moved or whatever yes
if we're talking about like just like regular costumes um overall super pretty good uh eddie's
looked great but you know like classic eddie um i don't know why and i know he's supposed to look
like an asshole but the the type of clothes that uh cletus stole after he got out of prison
i don't know like i don't really like him i i was all right with it um just because of how eccentric
eccentric he is all right fair yeah so i think that's the only reason i was able to do that
yeah so i think that's the only reason i was able to forgive how he looked um costume wise so i i dug
it but i think overall like if we would have just been doing them i probably would have ended up
sitting at like a seven yeah i can i can definitely agree with you on that one like very very average
costumes but just a little bit of a boost because of uh cletus yeah but what brought it up to an
eight for me was the design of of venom and carnage carnage in particular yes um i'm sorry
i gotta fully admit i actually think the design of carnage is better than the design of venom
the design of venom is great don't get me wrong but i love the design of carnage i'll give you that
it's so good and i don't really know a lot about like i don't really know a lot about the venom
universe so uh literally everything that is said about carnage in this movie is really all that i
know about carnage i've never really dived into um the venom universe which i really need to
because these characters are very very interesting um but i mean does this design um farewell to
like the original comic book design it actually honestly followed a lot closer to the the um
oh shit what's that word reference material is that the right word term i think so yeah okay it
followed the comics pretty spot on what hell yeah the one thing that i was really concerned about
was the mixture of the of like having another symbiote fight and having it be so like so closely
i i have a loss of words right now it's freaking late um yeah it's almost mid it is actually past
midnight where caleb is right now yeah um poor guy no what i was what i was trying to say it's um
kind of hard to tell what's going on like that's what i was concerned about another symbiote fight
where it's hard to tell what was going on but i think they did a really good job at keeping carnage
all of his color bright enough that it didn't mesh too hard when it came to
venom i absolutely agree he was the perfect amount of red without being too bright red
yeah and then something else that i thought that they missed because in all the promotional images
like even the ones i'm i'm looking at you can't quite see the um the black that well
okay that's not true i guess whatever promotional images i was looking at i thought he was just gonna
be like pure red but the fact that he had some black in his face like especially like going up
around the eyes and on on the mouth um i thought that that looked really really good
because that's something like how carnage looks like he has the black around his eyes and the black
around his mouth almost like a a grin and then like i said around the eyes and then it his
the red on his face kind of comes up and around all of that and so i thought that that they
were going to miss that part of the character but luckily they didn't and it ended up working in
incredibly well and i feel like they were able to make um carnage seem
very different from from venom like anytime venom like stretches out it is very
fluid looking but whenever venom stretched out or whenever he made like a hard
construct it was very veiny and like flesh looking yes which i think also in the fight distinguished
the two yes yeah i absolutely agree dude i can't freaking wait like sorry i just gotta add this i
can't freaking wait for the steelbook for this movie to go up on pre-order because they are
doing just like the first one was where it was just like the first one was like the first one
was where it was just like venoms venom on the front like opening his mouth but the second one
is just freaking venom and carnage on the front about to go at each other and it looks so good
yeah this is it's gonna be sick um yeah i'm looking at some of the other pictures
that they have on imdb and a lot of the the images of carnage don't accurately depict how he looks
yeah honestly it seems like they haven't released a lot of like actual like pictures from the movie
at least from what i've seen most of these are like fan made yeah like the one where it's like
half and half like venom and then the other half is is carnage that's not a super accurate depiction
of how carnage looks and i yeah and i i know that they did that because if they would have
kept true to the color scheme it would have just looked like it was like all venom no that that's
that's very true but yeah i think overall they they freaking killed it with with venoms design
absolutely looks so good yeah dude i gotta send you this steelbook after we record the way like
it matches the first one steelbook so well and oh i can't wait to pre-order this
sorry is that point that out no you're good yeah so costumes uh we also gave an eight
um i think everyone else is like we said everyone else's costumes were pretty average
but the standouts were were venom and carnage yes absolutely all right last up we got our own
personal grade so rose you want to take this one i would love to um overall it's it's a pretty uh
it's a you know i'm gonna say it's a pretty solid sequel um i enjoyed it just as much as the first
one i can't decide which one i like more i like them both quite a bit um tom hardy once again is
is wonderfully cast as eddie brock slash venom and woody harrelson definitely comes to play in
this one as a cletus cassidy and and as well as a carnage um and uh even though you don't get a
lot of fighting between venom and carnage when they do fight it's spectacular it's everything you
want it to be um just yeah i i had a good time uh with the sequel um so i'm gonna go 75 75 not bad
um i'm actually a little bit higher um i'm gonna i'm sitting at an 82 i had a really
good time with this movie um i loved seeing venom back on the screen i loved that we got to see him
more and not just hear him in eddie's head yes that was awesome um yeah i appreciated that i
think the humor was on point overall i feel like the movie itself was pretty spot on with
with the with the first one like it kept the same tones it it just kept everything of the
of the first and no i agree i think that that's something you want in a movie i don't think you
want any at least when it comes to like these i think that when we think about a movie and its
sequel this is going to be one that we we think of because of like this is how you want it to be
you don't want it to be like so much better than the first because the people view the first is
like shit but then you don't want it worse than the first because you don't want it to be like
the first because and they're like eh you don't need to watch the second one like you want it
just in line and i think they nailed it yeah i absolutely agree yeah so like i said i'm sitting
at an 82 um which averages us out to an 78.5 it's not bad yeah not bad at all um so the final
albrose letter grade for venom let there be carnage is
a c plus yes oh that is perfect for this movie i absolutely agree um it is actually slightly
it is higher than the original venom um in our system honestly i feel like what really puts it
over for it is i feel carnage is definitely a better villain than riot agreed um it's not much
of a difference though so the original venom has a as a c okay um but this movie scored a 78.12
one two percent whereas venom scored a
75.22 percent so it was a three point difference or three percentage difference that's not bad
yeah so i think that is more than fair i think yeah if you're comparing the two those three
three percentage points could be attributed to the difference between riot and carnage yeah
so i'm i'm extremely happy with with this score um let's see with all of our other c plus movies
uh which we have 21 of them venom let there be carnage ranks number 12 okay that's not bad
not bad yeah definitely not bad um so 78.12 that puts venom let there be carnage above tag
which is at a 77.9 it is above the babysitter killer queen which is at a 77.8
it is above wonder woman 1984 which is at a 77.7 um it is also above spider-man which was at a 77.49
okay and then it was also above aquaman which was sitting at a 77.3
yeah i'm sorry i'll fully admit i enjoyed this more than aquaman
yeah for sure um going the other direction venom let there be carnage is below jumanji the next level
which was at a 70 78.25 okay it's also below tenacious d and the pick of destiny which is at a 78.28
is also below godzilla versus kong which we had at a 78.56 okay it is below the new mutants which
is at a 78.77 i actually forgot that movie was that high yeah it's not too much higher it's a
0.6 difference okay um and then it was also below army of the dead which was at a 78.87
all right yeah so i think it has a decent home yeah i agree absolutely i'm kind of curious though
it's just for shits and giggles where it ranks with everything so it is ranked 110 out of 147 movies
wow okay i'll take it i like it that's a good placement and i i know that sounds like it's low
like to our listeners i know that sounds low but we haven't graded a ton of movies that are
super bad this is true like no no joke when it comes to anything below a c- we've only scored
nine movies really yeah that's everything below a c- wow and then c- movies we've only had seven
movies we've only had six c- movies we've had 13
c-plus movies we've had 21 okay b- movies we have had 17
b- movies we've had 21 so apparent so we've been sitting at c- pluses and b's b- plus movies
plus movies we're at 35 oh nope 36 damn yeah soul or not soul a- movies we are at
uh damn what the hell what deuce we have 21 a- movies and three a- movies
okay that's not bad yeah so let's just see the the most exclusive
grade to get is is actually hit an f that is the most exclusive grade
and that's 50 shades right uh nope we can be heroes oh yeah 50 shades got a d yeah 50 or d
minus wow still though didn't fail i'm like we can be heroes which god i hate that movie yeah um we
have four d-plus movies two d- movies and then two d- movies wait what's the other d-
what's the other d- um that rocky road freedom oh yeah yeah so
anyway now that we've just kind of gone through our whole catalog
like i think that just shows that we don't we don't shit on movies that's true no i i i agree
we don't when we do it try to find at least yeah there's something enjoyable yeah anyway
well that concludes this week's breakdown um let's see next week we will be discussing
halloween kills yeah evil dies next episode oh my gosh it's gonna be so good yes it is
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making a profit for these no we just want did you see that other monster house uh uh dreamcast
shirt sold are you shitting me yeah dude i at this point i'm like if there is someone really loves
this uh dreamcast or it do they have bots on this kind of shit dude i don't know
no i'm like very interested because it seems like that is the only design that we ever sell
that yeah like it's only been that and the greatest showman i think yeah that sounds right
what the shit like you know what i'm what i'm willing to bet that they're doing
they're probably ordering that and then like scratching off our name
so rude freaking assholes yeah i know like trying to steal our work it doesn't make sense i didn't
do anything like out of everything that we've made the biggest like the biggest thing is is
monster house like come on yeah that's weird i mean that was a good dreamcast i gotta go back
and listen to it again but from what i remember we actually came up with a pretty good
dreamcast yeah i think so too i don't think it would work now because all of the kids that we
cast are like way older that's so i can't remember who i cast as chat oh i think i cast jeremy ray
taylor as chowder that actually sounds right yeah anyway but yeah that's what you can find on our
on our website um it'll definitely be cheaper i think shirt
um it'll definitely be cheaper i think shirts like we were able to get prints on both sides and the
shirt was like only what like 13 bucks yeah it sounds right yeah it was like super cheap um
uh yeah so like i said next week we'll be breaking down halloween kills but until then
this has been the all bros podcast i'm caleb and i'm jonathan and we'll catch you guys next week
dayus is so long i'm sorry i'm not feeling it tonight i'm sorry lazy i know